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him. so what does it mean for america? the main stream media does not represent the country they talk down to and more americans are resisting the message that insist things would be better only if we were belgium. it means offering alternative to liberal mush, fox news has freed millions to be themselves without feeling like outcast and the military will be respected as awesome men and women. americans aren't ashamed of a capitalistic system that works better than any other. it means pelosi is likely to stay wherever the dems have hidden her. i won't have to convert my sports car to run on nonpolluting lemur urine. congratulations, americans. you wiseed up. clean your room. >> bob: the people who pay your bills! >> kimberly: got brown on your nose over there.

crud on your nose. >> dana: that was all boiling inside, like a boil and erupted. >> greg: i wanted to get through it because it's friday, dana. is that surprising that americans are conservative given that it is a country of rugged individualism, dana? >> dana: no. introduceness matters and i think you will see a lot of that discussion in the next nine months. the question comes down to what kind of country are we going to be this how are we going to pay for it? in the last four weeks the campaign turned to do we like the system we have with improvement or go to something different like europe? >> greg: it's about turning into belgium, isn't it? >> bob: it's not. there are a lot of things in belgium that are very nice. >> dana: fries. >> greg: it's not the food. >> kimberly: waffles!

>> bob: first, the debt total up to 61%. 39% of the country considers themselves moderate. it's there that the presidential election are won and lost. one. two, conservatives, there are a lot of type of conservative, moderate conservative to the wing, my brother here. this is trey wingo. i'm not sure that you say it's hard right conservative. that is is not what it means. it's been a big disparity. this is a center right country. i'll accept that. >> greg: that is a good point. if the country is center right how did they elect obama? >> bob: 90% of the center voted for him. that's. why >> kimberly: he was able to pull the votes. but now what? if there is this much dissatisf, favorability rating and economy is. the opportunity right now at present, they should be able

to, they should given numbers take both houses. and the white house. >> bob: kim, the independents who will decide this presidential election. in new hampshire, mitt romney. >> kimberly: they're ripe for the picking. >> bob: they have a serious problem with independents. as does barack obama. >> kimberly: who can get them better than romney? >> bob: not romney. >> greg: eric, doesn't this tell you in the last couple of years when the republicans weren't around the american public was counterweight to obama? >> eric: i don't know if i'm reading that. the most important thing you read from that two to one conservatives over liberals is not about who will win the white house. where are the states going to go. not just the senate or the house, but the state legislature is moving to the right. the middle of the country now is red. getting more red.

wisconsin, indiana, the states are becoming dominant -- >> kimberly: they have to capitalize it. >> bob: what happened in upper midwest happened in the 2010 election. the most important election when 60 million more people come to the polls. in 2012 you see the ledgeture turned over. >> greg: i doubt it. >> bob: your boy scott, whatever his name is -- >> eric: scott walker, indiana now is going to move to be a right to work state. on the state level, republican and conservatives are spreading to become more -- >> dana: it's not easy to be a republican and go in a state failing under democratic leadership and turn it around. michigan is a great example. wisconsin, governor snyder in michigan, walker is in wisconsin. you have to make tough decisions to get things moving

again. >> bob: kasich is in trouble. >> eric: mitch daniels in indiana c'mon, you have to admit it starts at the state level. >> bob: in the muper midwest, the polls are terrible. kasich told me that himself. >> dana: he has to turn it around. you have to make a case to deep it in there. the republican bench on the state side is impressive. our friend ed gillispie helps run that and they have had steady gains since he was at the elm of it. >> greg: more like your friend. i don't know him. >> dana: want to get to know him? >> greg: love to. >> dana: nice guy. >> bob: nice guy, but you wouldn't get along with him. he talks politics all the time. >> dana: he is funny. >> greg: shall we take a break? coming up, you a choice. we can talk about tim tebow, tim tebow -- or yeah, tim

tebow. if you leave now i'll send an angry letter to all your friends staying what a jerk you are. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ >> kimberly: take it away. welcome back to "the five." joran van der sloot, the guy suspected in the death of natalee holloway will be lock up for a while. he got 28-year sentence after pleading guilty to death of peruvian woman. this is shocking. no one expected this. he was going to get 28 years.

the thought process was he was going to bleed guilty, own up to it because the judge might give him leniency and he will get far less time. were you surprised by it? >> dana: not really but i don't follow peruvian law that well. but i'm going to start. looking at the photograph of him, jail has not been good to him. not a pleasant experience. he looks terrible. look at that. >> bob: not that jail is good for anybody. look at greg. >> dana: look at him. >> bob: is he the guy that was with that natalee? >> dana: yes. >> kimberly: aruba. >> bob: i thought he'd get half the sense tense and time he spent in jail so he could spend 13 years right? >> kimberly: the sentence could be ended in 2038. so he has to do a significant amount of time. but nevertheless, he should given the horrific nature.

the judge went through it all. >> bob: did he get off for the awry bah thing? >> kimberly: no body. >> kimberly: the problem if you don't have a body in aruba, there was a controversy in the beginning perhaps his father coached him. saying no body, no case. they weren't able to recover it. despite the fact he was on tape admitting, confessing it to. the story goes further when he tried to extort money from natalee's money beth saying i'll show you where your daughter is buried if you give me $150,000. >> bob: you still can't get a murder penalty for that? >> kimberly: this is not a how-to show. >> eric: given what happened with natalee the other guy brought his girlfriend to aruba and allegedly killed her and he is out now, right?

giordano. >> kimberly: but they held him for the extent period of time. completely different judicial system over there. when this happened people were worried saying he would engage in the behavior again. recidivist, issues with women. et cetera. i did sit down and you can look at this, many moons ago with his mother. anita van der sloot. >> bob: who is that? >> kimberly: that is me. i was asking her, she seemed to be in complete denial. >> bob: i had one take me to cybeion and leave me, too. >> dana: we might try it this weekend. >> greg: you look at this guy and you know he killed more people. he has an i killed more people face. the problem with psychopath, prison isn't a problem. he will excel in prison. they will look up to him because he is a mass murder and learn to maneuver through the system. his dad got away with it.

why can't you hire seal team six and kill the guy? >> kimberly: that would be illegal. contract killing, so you know. >> bob: he won't that well in prison. >> kimberly: speaking of murder, bob. we'll talk about philadelphia. a nice bit of the sound about fuming about what happened there. it's tragic in terms of the amount of homicides. 14 murders 12 days in the year, 2012. a crisis and problem there. take a listen. >> if you want to act like an idiot and be a low life we'll track you down like the dog you are, catch you and you'll be subject to every possible penalty that the law allows. >> bob: this guy is serious. he says it straight. it's one thing that an african-american mayor can say it the way he does.

difficult for white mayor to say it. not afraid to call out guys in the hood. he is serious, give him credit. >> dana: he had a conservative sentence. >> eric: this is a guy who was mayor when the black panther, the new black panther party at the polling place threatening people. >> bob: think he invited them in? >> eric: no. he defended it. we got in a huge argument about it. he said i didn't know, i had nothing to do with it. he was told about it. we had rick leventhal almost beat up. >> bob: the language in the press conference is language you don't normally hear out of mayors. >> dana: it was aimed at parents. he had a conservative sentence. he said we cannot completely legislate or by policy make people responsible for their children. that is why you get gallup poll numbers, maybe they are not as conservative as others but that is saying government can't do everything for you. >> kimberly: excellent work. >> greg: if you look at

oakland and detroit and philadelphia, you think what is the greatest transformation in any city i have seen? new york city in '70s to '90s in undergiuliani is amazing. this is a different city. if you look at "taxi driver" they're science fiction films. the era doesn't exist. isn't it time for these cities to look at new york and learn something? >> kimberly: you have to be tough about it. >> eric: give giuliani credit. >> bob: but new york was at the bottom of the barrel. look at us now. >> kimberly: i need a tebow fix immediately. tebow mania mile high in denver. you like that? he has a big game tomorrow. everyone is buzzing about it. so are we. it's next. tebow time! ♪ ♪

five." ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> bob: well, we're going to talk about not very well known fellow named tebow. tim tebow among other things tomorrow night will be playing in the playoffs against new england patriots. tebow, as you know, is the faith-based quarterback from denver. and has done some remarkable things. in fact, espn just named him by view of their audience the most favorite athlete in the country in the shortest period of time to get on that list. but, there also was a poll done about how much god was involved in tebow's successes over the last several weeks.

and 43% said yes, god was behind tebow. and 42% said no, god wasn't behind tebow. 14% had no opinion. which atheist vote. >> dana: don't you think it could mean that god gave him talent and he developed them and worked really hard? >> bob: no. with the way the poll was worded meant he was this helping him along. what do you think about that? you started. >> dana: the way i read it that god gives even a certain amount of talent and you do what you with it and the opportunity that presents themes to you and sometimes there is luck and sometimes it's hard work. that's how i read it. i know how the rest of the media would read it. >> greg: was there a part of the poll that talked about how much of tebow was involved in god's success? dane no. that is coming out monday. >> bob: do you agree with dana that is what they talked about? >> eric: at least 4 #% of the team that tebow play thinks god has something to do with it. if he beats tom brady in

foxboro, at patriot stadium, that 43% number will go to 110%. i have a bet with chris wallace, i took tebow plus 14. good luck my friend. you're going down. >> bob: you are a tebow fan. >> kimberly: who wouldn't take that bet. you have 14 points? >> bob: it's 13-1/2 on the line now. >> kimberly: by the time the show is over, it might to 14. >> bob: what do you think? >> kimberly: god blesss you with talent and ability and it's up th up to you to make the most of you. god wantous to help yourself. >> bob: i hope that is what the poll is about. the idea that god would intervene in an n.f.l. series of games is -- from a christian standpoint i find absolutely outrageous. >> eric: can i just add, too, a question. sorry, bob. >> bob: fine. >> eric: you are offbase here. remember when the muslims came down here and they were all in the street. they were praying. everyone said this is what they do. respect the religion.

everyone said that is fine. tim tebow scores a touchdown and goes like this. everyone has problem with it. >> bob: i don't have a problem with it. my problem the assumption that somehow god came and intervened in an n.f.l. game is absurd. bordering on obscene. >> greg: god should have intervened on "project runway." the all-stars began thursday. mondo duerro is involved. he lost two years ago and where was god then? there he is now. >> bob: where are you now? >> kimberly: no one knows. planet greg. >> bob: apparently every republican g.o.p. candidate asked tebow for his endorsement. do you think that tebow should give his endorsement? >> eric: absolutely not. keep separation of church and state. >> kimberly: that was cute. you're a good boy. >> dana: kno focus on the game. >> bob: what do you think? >> greg: i don't care. >> bob: i don't know why i asked you the question. >> greg: me neither.

>> kimberly: i think it would help. i would like his endorsement, too. >> bob: he is a unique individual to say the least. the last thing i'd do is get in the business of endorsing in politics. a big mistake for him. stick with what he is doing now. other thing, what if he endorsed somebody and they lose. then a lot of people like you -- >> dana: then god will intervene and there will be a recount or something. right? >> eric: >> bob: it was a cat fight. on the "view." unlike us, we don't have cat fights. between what is the name? joy behar and hasselbeck. pop some popcorn. we'll show you what happened. i don't watch the show. >> eric: do you guys mind if i tebow? >> kimberly: here he comes again. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> dana: we have been talking a lot about comments that mitt romney made on the campaign trail saying he likes to -- excuse me? >> greg: while dana is talking.

>> kimberly: look at that. >> unbelievable. >> dana: can we go to tape? i'll regain control here. >> his reputation is he lays off workers. he used the phrase "i like to fire people" does not sound good whether in or out of context. >> let's fact check something. working at bain the job was to go and rescue companies going bankrupt. anyone running a company knows at times you have to make tough decisions. >> companies or laid off workers? >> everyone who is an employer probably had to lay off somebody at one time. if anybody is going to not talk about having emploit now, putting people out of work, take a close look at what is going on. >> average worker in this country. >> maybe this sounds terrible if you are not listening to all the facts. >> dana: i want to ask you something. we have a couple things to get to and we wasted so much time

earlier. do you think that joy -- joy? joy, would not have fired someone in a second if he she didn't get good service? >> eric: gone. that was elizabeth schooling joy on free market capitalism. it's strange how the left is i'm worried about the people, the employees because they want everyone to make the same and have a job. >> dana: i want to ask you about this. if this is happening on view "if view" how deep is this argument penetrating? >> bob: not as much with the average voter. that's why the democrats are upset started early on romney because they want to lay this on him. are view all from the jersey

shore? going to school with the -- >> kimberly: don't start. >> dana: i thought she was great. she is an entrepreneur, in addition to if -- >> bob: that woman? >> dana: yes. i don't have much time. greg has things to say. last night on tonight show, megan mccain was on and comparing herself to ronald reagan. >> do you think reagan would like this? >> if ronald reagan were running today he'd be called a dirty moderate like me, unfortunately. >> she was confused. she was thinking of ronald reagan junior. thought he was present. on the steam train of conventional wisdom she is caboose. by the time she said it 100 other people said it. thing about reagan moderate has been said 1 ,000 times. but she is so wonderful. >> dana: everybody compares themselves to reagan in one

way or. a do you think tebow thinks of himself as reagan? tie our segments together. >> kimberly: no. people glob on and say i'm like reagan or the candidate to bring about the revolution in america. people look up to him. to call him a dirty moderate -- >> dana: what do you think? >> eric: the difference between megan mccain -- liz cheney is now a contributor. one is brilliant, smart and articulate. megan mccain could be the dumbest people on msnbc. >> dana: they have different experience levels. >> bob: i think she is right about it. ronald reagan is one that signed the last immigration law that made sense and allowed people illegally in the country to stay. you right wing nuts won't do now. he is the last -- >> eric: don't do the next one. go ahead. go ahead. >> bob: what do you any i'll

do? >> eric: are you going with the abortion issue? >> bob: no. >> eric: good. >> bob: are you interfering with my commentary? >> dana: i'll cut them off. one more thing is coming up. the last one of the week. special edition involving a big fan. we love him. rush limbaugh. right back with that. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> eric: time for one more thing. i was listening to rush limbaugh today. guess what? it turns out she a huge fan of "the five." take a listen. >> last night on fox, the show they have at 5:00 called "the five." you know why they call it "the five"? no, it's not five women. unless you count beckel. you don't even really know who the host of the show is. they rotate it. do a pretty good job of it. "the five" at 5:00. they can put anybody in there. they do have a regular rotation. the rotation yesterday was eric bolling, a good guy from

fox business network. and beckel was in there. i think kimberly guilfoyle is part of this group. dana perino is part of the group. andrea tantaros is part of the group. >> eric: back story on that. he called her andrea trample t tarantula. >> bob: i can talk about andrea. i have sat next to her for years. i have the pleasure doing that. once in a white, she has a bite and sometimes it can hurt. but it's not poisonous. she has two good legs, rush. not eight. >> eric: has called you out a couple times on the establishment. >> dana: i appreciate he said he like me but -- he thinks i'm too nice. i get that a lot on the street.

>> greg: we came in the segment -- he didn't mention me. we came in with "rush, rush" by paula abduhl about a weekend she spent with rush limbaugh in the hamptons in the early '80s. >> kimberly: my gosh. >> greg: listen to the lyrics. they'll blow your mind all over the table. >> eric: why me. >> bob: by the way, rush i have been called a lot of things but a girl? >> eric: listen one more time. >> talk about what rush said. to say that the president of the united states is warn enemy of capitalism is outrageous statement. >> no, it's not. it's the bolling thing. the beckel thing is outrageous. no, it's true. maybe not sworn. i don't think i said obama is

a sworn enemy. >> eric: bob? >> bob: i thought he did say that. he, like you -- i gave rush limbaugh, the first tv show he did was with tony snow and i on the fox show in 1990. i'll say this. i said if you elect a democrat in 1992, i will be the biggest talk show host in history and it turned out to be right. we went out to eat. dangerous thing, between me and rush and steak. i can tell you that. he is like you. you buy into this stuff. you have called the president of the united states ferocious names. so has rush. i can't think of the time i call bush what you call obama. >> eric: i don't attack obama the man. i tack obama the social -- i atam obama the socialist -- >> bob: you made my point. yesterday you called me barry. >> dana: two days ago.

>> kimberly: his friends called him barry. not kidding you. >> dana: i can't call the former secretary -- if i say secretary rice i would not call her condie ever. >> greg: when i was writing for the post, there was nothing more disgusting than what was said about bush. you don't do that, bob, but some people said -- they would take the name bush and use "h" to spell hitler. >> bob: i was the deputy assistant secretary of secretary of state. you don't call me mr. mr. secretary. i don't get any -- >> dana: mr. secretary? >> eric: deputy to secretary of state. >> dana: we have title inflation going on in the government. >> kimberly: do you have business cards? >> bob: this is where you fail to understand the depth of the federal government. >> kimberly: that would help you dating.