what you think about tonight's show, i got e mails i know some of you are mad at me but tell me what you thought. good night from washington. blu. see you on monday. >> bill: "the o'reilly factor" is on. tonight. >> same far right groups attacking komen have been attacking planned parenthood. >> bill: susan komen breast cancer foundation surrenders to planned parenthood in a classic culture war battle. why did the secular forces win? we have a controversial report. >> about $33 million raised by karl rove will stay completely secret. >> bill: senator chuck schumer accusing our guy carl rove of financial shenanigans or something. mr. rove will be here. >> we have a better team. we're going to win the game. i guarantee it i was angry.

>> bill: joe name meth on what it takes to win a super bowl and how playing football just about destroyed his both. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone, the factor begins right now. captions by closed captioning services >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. a victory for secular forces in america. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. the susan komen foundation is the nation's largest charity combating breast cancer. took in more than $400 million in donations. with that enmornings the charity funds various enterprises that help detect and fight breast cancer. one of those enterprises is planned parenthood which refers women for mammograms. last year the komen foundation gave planned parenthood $680,000. now, that is the source of controversy because, as you know, planned parenthood is

primarily in business to provide abortions. more than 300,000 each year. some pro-life folks say that's about 50% of the population don't like breast cancer money going into planned parenthood. this week the komen foundation said it would stop giving planned parenthood money. well, all hell broke loose in the secular precincts. proabortion lobby went craze. the internet was full of hateful posts against the charity. 26 senators wrote a nancy to brinker objecting to pulling the funds from planned parenthood. 25 democrats and one republic bernie sanders too liberal to be a democrat. komen foundation surrendered today announcing it will restore the planned parenthood grant. talking points has a few comments to make. number one it's true planned parenthood does breast cancer screening so the komen foundation should demand their

grants go just for that, nothing else. number two, planned parenthood suspect more, much more than a women's health organization. it is a proabortion lobby. under the banner of so-called reproductive rights. generally speaking, planned parenthood does not give women who visit the clinics the other side of the abortion story because again p.p. is in business for abortion. that is disturbing to pro-life americans who may want to donate to the komen foundation. this controversy is another example of how powerful secular forces have become in the u.s.a. for me it's a simple equation. upon my death, i don't want to stand in front of god. trying to explain how i supported the destruction of a fetus. i simply don't want to have to do that. but i do respect opposing points of view as long as they respect mine.

and i certainly don't want my breast cancer donations to go to planned parenthood because i believe that organization is much more destructive than beneficial. again, that's my personal belief. finally, i understand the susan komen foundation is in a tight spot. it's getting battered from both sides. the breast cancer folks should have stood firm. planned parenthood is too political, too proabortion. medical charities should stay away from politics. and that's the memo. now for the top story tonight. reaction, joining us from fort worth texas, radio talk show host janine turner. from los angeles leslie marshall. where am i going wrong here? >> because, bill, this is not about abortion, this is about saving lives, through the efforts of the susan g. komen for the cure foundation and self-breast examination. education in self-breast examination. referrals for mammograms in 2012, bill in america we can

say if you are diagnosed with breast cancer you have more than a 90% chance of surviving. two decades ago it was a death sentence we couldn't say that cancer doesn't care if you are democrat or conservative. and neither should we. we can't discriminate. this should not be political. it should be about personal lives. >> bill: you are breaking my heart. >> you like it? >> bill: i'm going to sob in a moment. have you been working on that all day. answer the questions now. you will see that breast cancer business of any kind is very low on the planned parenthood chart. it's very very low. very little is done. you can get some screening but they refer you out most of the time. you concede that correct? leslie? will you concede that? it's a very small part of their business. >> i will concede that it is a small part. >> big business, planned parenthood is abortion. and lobbying for abortion, would you concede that? >> i would concede that they perform abortions. no the largest part of their

business, the most things that they get involved in concerns abortion, would you concede that. >> i can't. because i have heard argument on both sides and information on both sides. >> bill: absolute truth is pp is in for abortion 300,000 per year and they make tons from it if i give a donation from the komen foundation i do it sincerely because i want to combat breast cancer. i don't want to help abortion in any way, shape, or form janine. that's why i'm sure a must be of americans complain to the komen foundation and they initially pulled the grant to pp. are they right to do that? were they right to do that? >> i believe they have a right to do that. not only that i believe they are a private charity. they can do whatever they want to do. >> bill: why were they pulled. >> i think they were bullied and it's a shame. act to political correctness. what's shameful about this the 26 senators sent a letter. private charity has nothing to do.

>> pro-choice senators. government shouldn't have any say in this private charity. and i just think that they have a right to not be a part of planned parenthood. shamed that they ache -- acquiesced. >> bill: why do you think they folded today. >> they got bullied. >> bill: they don't need planned parenthood one way or the other. i don't think they need them. >> they acquiesced because of political correctness. >> bill: they folded. >> plan the parenthood doesn't even do mammograms. they just refer. >> bill: i understand that. >> if planned parenthood were really concerned about women and breast cancer. >> bill: they would have a mammogram and be doing it it absolutely, excellent point. is it not? >> no. because, quite frankly, you know my husband is a doc so i have to check on, this bill. okay? to have a mammogram you need

mri center. those machines are millions of dollars and you do need a referral, did i when i got my mammogram from a physician. so i don't think it has an issue of care. i think there is an issue of cost and who, under their roof has that medical expertise. >> may i just. >> bill: wait, let janine answer. go ahead, janine. >> okay. they get a billion dollars a year. they have a billion-dollar budget a year. i think they can have mammogram machines. >> janine, if they had mammogram machines then you would be okay with susan b. komen's reversal. >> yes. because it's about breast cancer. >> bill: as long as komen says our 680,000 that comes from me and you guys and everybody else just goes for that then i'm okay. i don't want it going to some abortion doctor. and unless i'm assured, i can't give money to komen unless i'm assured that doesn't happen. i think that's fair. is that fair. komen money goes to planned

parenthood only for breast cancer. >> not only is it fair, bill, but there is the ability by susan b. komen and any charity to specifically earmark what funds -- >> bill: that's the way it should go down, correct? >> it's for breast cancer. >> make sure that komen foundation demands that we'll have a follow up report next week. next on the run down, senator chuck schumer attacks karl rove. mr. rove will be here to reply. later lou dobbs on the incredible money being generated by the super ♪ [ male announcer ] for our town. [ dog barks ] for our country. ♪ for our future. ♪ this isn't just the car we wanted to build. it's the car america had to build. ♪ the extended range electric chevy volt.

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>> personal story segment here as you know. carl rove associated with an organization called crossroads gps which raises money mostly for republic causes. charles shuman doesn't really like thanks about $33 million raised by carl rove can stay completely secret. this is the fund expected to be most active in 2012 and we're unable to follow the money trail at all. we're completely in the dark. >> joining us now from naples, florida is mr. o. you had this money in the kay men's in switzerland. where do you have it? >> in u.s. banks. hey, are we talking about senator chuck schumer. hypocrisy? >> bill: personal attack. whoa. personal attack. on shuman. >> is it senator chuck schumer

of d hot air? look, i was shocked today that senator schumer called for the naacp voter fund to be subpoenaed for having spent $14 million from one anonymous contributor in order to slam george w. bush in 2000 as a bigot. the -- why is senator schumer attack the naacp. >> he didn't do that, did he? >> that's right. that was 2000. he didn't say a word about that $14 million anonymous contribution. wait a minute, are we talking about senator chuck schumer, d wall street? that's right. what he did is he has threatened to subpoena the league of conservation voters. the national abortion rights action league, the syria club and other groups which have used 501 c 4's to hide the nation of their donors. >> bill: he didn't do that we are talking about senator

chuck schumer d cynic. who is he he kidding? this is what the democrats have been doing for years. this guy now comes out here and says he is going to do what when the republicans start following what democrats have done? no wonder. this is senator chuck schumer. how stupid does he think we all are? >> bill: are you done bashing schumer? or do you have more on your little chart there? is that it? did you get it all out of your system? >> it wasn't bashing. it was mocking the man for being. >> bill: are you done mocking, bashing? or are you done? >> no. the worse place in washington is between a television camera and chuck schumer. it's like worse place to be. we got it. now, where is all this money. got 33 million, where is that money and what are you doing with it? >> actually, the money is in u.s. banks in the bank account of crossroads g.p.s. grass roots policy strategies. >> that's correct. >> i thought had you a little company where i could find my way to home g.p.s.

i thought that was it and totally not true. so you have your money all over in banks. you are going to use that money in the presidential election to do, what? >> well, we are allowed to use a minority of the money for express electionary and then the rest we will use in talking about the major issues of the day. for example, last year we were involved in the battle over the debt ceiling where we called on americans not to give president obama a blank check. we are now having ads from g.p.s. up talking about solyndra and the administration's failed policy on so-called green jobs where they have handed out taxpayer dollars. >> bill: most of this money will be used to buy tv advertising, putting forth your point of view that the obama administration has screwed up. >> absolutely. exactly. in furtherance of our goals of supporting the free enterprise system and limited government and low taxation, sensible regulation. >> bill: use it to bolster the republic candidate? i know you can't be tied into

the campaign. will you use it to say good things about gingrich and romney? >> sure. >> bill: use it nor any or all of that? >> that's right. >> bill: schumer is welcome to come on at any time. he never said a word about george soros who spent -- >> yeah. george soros gave $37.5 million to americans coming together. in 2000, naacp voter found anance one donor. that was real money in 2000. i didn't hear a peep out of chuck schumer then. i never heard a peep when he was chairman of the committee and drumming on the heads of republicans using money through 501 c 4's. this is pure hypocrisy. >> bill: we are back to bashing schumer. >> it's so easy. can you imagine you are a democrat senator and that guy is jumping out on front and he is the face of the evening news for your party?

please. >> bill: schumer would like to see him next week. 8.3 unemployment. that's got to help president obama, right? the unemployment rate is down from 10-1 to 8-3. looks like it's going the right direction. >> it has gone in the right direction. we should applaud the fact that the economy is coming back. two things. one is about half the decline in the unemployment rate has come from people dropping out of the workforce because they got so discouraged. we got 2 million fewer people in the workforce today than when we went into this thing. the second thing is this is anemic recovery. if you take a look at the post world war recessions. at this point in the recovery we should have about 13 million more people working than we have got working. this is anemic. >> bill: are you going to do an ad on the employment situation? >> i'm confident we're going to be reminding people that president obama said at this point that we would have 6% unpriment employment. we would have a go economy. not the 1.8 g.d.p. both we had last year and 2.2 to 2.5% growth we look like we are going to have this year.

>> bill: all right. thank you, mr. rove. we appreciate it directly ahead. more chaos by the occupiers. they plan an f the police rally in oakland tomorrow. i will tell you what's going on. joe namath on the super bowl and how brutal the national football league really is coming right back.

>> bill: factor follow up segment tonight, last weekend it was chaos in oakland, california, about 400 occupy wall street protesters were arrested trying to destroy city property. tear gas was used to present that and a number of people were injured in the melee. now, the occupiers say they will hold another rally tomorrow in oakland called f the police. and f does not stand for

frank. joining us now from san francisco joe vernise a former member of the police commission that city. -- joe, we will start with you. you are tied into the police and sympathetic to them. but i think this is a provocation by the occupy people tomorrow in oakland. it's likely to wind up the way it wound up last weekend. am i wrong. >> i think you are actually right. not only am i tied in with the police but i'm a civil rights attorney in san francisco. this is a self-proclaimed military group that is bent on criminal activity. the occupy movement was never meant to have this particular purpose. in fact, the founders of that group now call themselves 99% because they have abandoned this type of activity. police officers are trained to use a use of force continuum. when you break the law, they are going to use the force that is appropriate. these officers are specifically trained for first amendment activity. all of this nonsense about, you know, not hearing

warnings, all of this stuff is on videotape. the police officers that are trained to do. this they have it on videotape. and if it ever comes to some sort of disciplinary action, which should be investigated absolutely. but if it ever gets there. they are going to find most of these officers have acted appropriately. >> bill: as a civil rights attorney you represent people whose civil rights have been violated, correct. >> that's right. >> bill: you are not some right wing guy who say let the police run ram shot over them. what do you think is the goal of the occupiers in oakland? can't be to get the sympathy of the people. what are they trying to accomplish. >> my take on this is this is a faction of the oscar grant group that's extremely upset. is their way hijacking the name of the occupy group. >> bill: fringe group not the mainstream occupiers. rich what do you say. >> that's absolutely right. >> i would agree this is a fringe group of the main frame

occupy wall street movement. we cannot let their activities detract from what occupy wall street is saying. >> bill: it already has. perception is reality. perception is that occupy wall street is a bunch of cooks and want to tear down the society. that's the perception. >> no. i don't think that's perception. >> 62% are against the occupy wall street movement. when it started most americans were for it. >> it's not a popularity contest honestly. >> bill: it is a perception contest. >> no, it's not. >> bill: what is it then? >> this is a serious movement that is challenging our democracy. people are frustrated, bill, when you look at the republic primary the way that billionaires have taken over the super pacs, people feel this is their only way to have their voices heard. >> bill: if most americans don't respect the group any longer, which the polls say is true, because it's been hijacked by your own admission by the kook fringe, what good is the group anymore it's lost credibility. >> it has not lost credibility. this may give the movement quote unquote bad pr.

>> bill: i think it might. >> the broader movement. >> bill: it's tied in. >> it stretches beyond oakland. it stretches all across the country. they have to keep their eyes on the prize. when you challenge power in this country. >> bill: it's hard. >> you may get a billie club to your face it gets ugly. >> bill: i have challenged power for 15 years in this country. they don't hit me with a billy club. here is the deal. says this isn't going to harm the overall occupy movement which i think you were sympathetic to in the beginning. i say it is all over for the occupiers because of this kind of stuff. >> it is. san francisco faction of occupied have -- they are committed to be nonviolent. they are totally against what is going on here. and, you know what? this is just a big dangerous distraction. it really is look at all those officers that you have on that screen there, bill. those are officers that aren't responding to shootings in the street. rich, i dare say if your daughter or your son was lying in the street and the cops took an extra 10 minutes to show up because they were

baby-sitting criminals who are not -- this is specifically targeting police. these guys are bent on criminal activity. this is not first amendment activity. i would say that -- >> bill: give you the last word. >> you would be sitting where i am if the cops didn't arrive on time. >> bill: go. >> well, i don't know what the alternative is when you have a vibrant messy democracy like ours, it costs. nobody said democracy is cheap. so that's. >> bill: i don't know if these people want democracy, rich. doesn't look thick they want it to me. anyway, we appreciate you going in. lively debate. plenty more as the factor moves along this evening. you won't believe the billions of dollars being generated by the super bowl this year in a bad economy. lou dobbs has been investigating. joe namath on brutality. what millions of people will watch sunday evening. we hope you stay tuned to the employee of the month isss... the new spark card from capital one. spark miles gives me the most rewards of any small business credit card. the spark card earns double miles... so we really had to up our game. with spark, the boss earns double miles

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>> bill: fridays with geraldo segment last night. mitt romney said this last night. >> i want to get people out of poverty into the middle income category but, of course, i'm concerned and worried about

all americans. i want to make sure our safety net is appropriately able to care for our poor. i'm concerned about all citizens. now and then you misspeak. >> bill: okay. the governor referring in the misspeak comment that is he not very concerned about the poor. he said that the other day. but then he said because the feds take care of them with safety nets. question going forward is what does the american government both state and local and federal owe poor people? joining us now from los angeles to answer that question geraldo rivera. this is going to be a big campaign issue. because president obama has set up a class warfare situation where he is going to portray himself as the champion of the poor and the working class and romney and gingrich as the mean guys, all right? but the question is, the essential question all americans are going to have to answer for themselves is, what do we owe the poor? so you tell us. >> well, i thought that newt gingrich's metaphor was much more appropriate, bill. i thought the trampoline was exactly what we want people to be on. we don't want people to be

nevada in the bottom just sucking on the, you know, the federal government and just getting a subsistence kind of existence. that doesn't count for anything. you and i come from blue collar families and because of the, you know, the land of opportunity, we were able to pick ourselves up by our boot straps. we are just two among millions of people who have done the same thing. that's what we owe. we owe a level playing field. we owe opportunity. you know. >> bill: let's get specific. all of that is good in theory. let's -- the complication is this: most poverty is driven by personal circumstances. i said it on this broadcast last night. that means derelict parents. this is a cause you are deeply involved with. fathers who leave their children and their families. mothers who get four, five illegitimate children before they are 23 years old. okay. this is what drives poverty. where the children born into those circumstances don't have

role models, don't have resources. are way behind the other kids and almost doomed to what you call subsistence existence. what do we owe those children? do we owe, to give them housing, food, clothing, because they have been born into this terrible circumstance? >> back up to their birth. first, i have been a big promoter of what i call geraldo's law. i want a father's name on every birth certificate in this country. very, very specific proposal. it's not an unfunded mandate. it costs nothing. i want a father's name on every birth certificate. i don't want anymore circumstances where now you have three out of every four black children in this country born, you know, to a single parent. two out of four latinos. one out of four white kids. i want a father's name on every birth certificate. why? because that's where responsibility begins. >> bill: would you pass a

criminal law if the father doesn't support the children he goes to jail? >> oh, you have that now. >> bill: not enforced. >> it's not in force because usually on the birth certificate where it comes to the father's name, it is left blank because the poor people in this country have figured out not just poor people, many others have found out if there is no dad the mother is more prone to get aid. >> bill: you know this. a lot of those are criminals, drug addicts, they come in, i don't have any money, i can't support the kids, i don't care about them. i don't know where he they are. you have nfl players who have nine illegitimate children in eight states? the new york jets he has got nine kids in eight states. >> listen, i am not arguing with you about that. i agree with you. >> bill: this is the poverty driver. >> start with the designation. i want the dad's name on there. and then the state can approach. the state has to provide --

>> okay. we owe them a good public education. we owe all children a good public education. access to public colleges. >> bill: we have second highest spending on education in the world in this country. only switzerland and they only have 18 kids over there spends more money. okay? so what do you want? you just want to continue to throw money into bad schools where teachers don't give a hoot because the teachers' union prevent them from being fired? is that what you want? >> i think you need to provide public education for all kids as we do. >> bill: we do. they have it? >> mandatory age for schools should rise from 16 to 18. >> bill: do you force these kids they don't want to be in there. >> yes. i want to force these kids who don't want to be in there to be in there i don't want to give them an easy out because' every statistic shows that a high school graduate has a far more likely chance of success to succeeding or being able to provide for themselves.

>> bill: won't show up, geraldo. what are you going to do put them in jail if they don't show up? here is the bottom line. >> here is the bottom line. >> bill: i can't. i only have 30 seconds. next week we will continue. this we have to tell inner city dads once you name them on the birth certificate to pick their pants up, be men, and provide for their children. >> bill: they are going to say blank you, i want to use cocaine. that's what they are going to do. you can tell them all day long. >> bill, you are far too mess mystic if you tell people that we want them to be personally responsible for themselves and their children. you preach that message. barack obama did it in june of 2008. i haven't heard him since. >> bill: i think it should be preached. >> say to the community take care of yourself, we will help you take care of you. >> bill: line in the bible the poor will always be with us, and that is absolutely true. do i think we have got to give the kids what they need to get at least to 21 years old. when we come right back, lou dobbs has been investigating the enormous amount of money

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>> bill: thanks for staying with us, i'm bill o'reilly. the lou's the boss seeing: money is tight in most places except at the super bowl sunday's game is generating billions of dollars nationwide. i talked to dobbs with that last night. >> bill: what happened to the bad economy? $250 million in ads on a football game. >> absolutely. $3.5 million for 30 seconds. 70 inside the game ads. $10 billion, by the way. just in gambling. >> bill: gambling. >> yeah. $10 billion. only one half% of that

estimated to be legal. >> bill: i don't understand. if money is so tight in this country and people are running a a huge debt, why this event? obviously attracts, what, 173 million people who are supposed to watch this worldwide. it's obviously off the chart. but the money involved in it is phenomenal. people having parties. they are getting drunk. everybody -- >> everyone is having a good time. >> bill: you tell me. it looks like this is the mardi gras for everybody. >> this is the mardi gras of media you are exactly right. we are talking $11 billion. i mean, it's insane to think one sporting event. $11 billion. that doesn't include the gambling. when we start looking what the impact will be on the community and indianapolis. >> bill: indianapolis gets 150 million out of it. friend of mine at the game 150 bucks a night at a day's inn. free breakfast. come on. how much you can eat? >> he may have a bargain going because the seats now on

average are 4 grand. you want to be in the luxury box, of course you would that's 80 grand. >> bill: are you talking to me? i'm not paying 80 grand to be in a luxury box. buy a lamb burr genie. i'm not saying that i think there are certain occasions for human beings where they just say blank it. blank it i'm not talking about a blanket. i'm talking about blank it. we're just going to have fun. it's all about fun. >> how about this? 600 private jets are expected to land at cincinnati airport for the weekends. >> bill: that's just for warren buffet. >> and friend. >> bill: how about this? last year super bowl in dallas. 133 people arrested for prostitution. talk about fun. >> that's one of the statistics. you are right. that i find troubling. >> bill: obviously it's troubling. it's against the law. >> well, that's what troubles me. >> if just people go, i know this. i'm going to do what it takes,

spend what it takes because i want to have fun. i'm tired of hearing about gingrich and romney and obama and debt and lou dobbs scaring me and i just want to have fun. >> i'm the optimist here. >> bill: i used to play the game it is a brutal game. i sometimes get a little queazy watching the players on the field because they are like the roman gladiators. we are like the coliseum people. hit them. bang. and these guys life expectancy in the nfl below three years. do you know what nfl stands for? not for long. >> especially for running backs. i played too not well, not long. >> bill: i was great. >> i would assumed no less. [ laughter ] >> the fact is i can't even imagine having to hit one of these guys and perish the thought. >> bill: i threw and kicked. i didn't hit anybody. >> excellent choice. >> bill: how much is madonna getting for this 12 minute thing? do you know?

i would love to know. >> just in publicity. by the way, there is another implication here. nfc predictor on the market. better pull for the giants if you weren't already. that means the market will go higher. >> bill: giants wins the stock market goes higher. what pinhead is putting this out. >> i would be one them. >> bill: you would. >> it's got 78% accuracy rate. better than any other predictor billion. >> bill: if the nfc team wins in the past the market has gone up. >> correct. >> bill: i'm not buying that i think madonna is probably getting a half mill to do the 12 minutes. people talk about the 1 percenters and 99%ers and romney saying this or that when you think about america and what is possible, remember, madonna is from detroit. she speaks now like she is from saturn, okay? but she is from detroit. and she just came up. you have got to give her credit. >> i actually am a little

surprised that that would be the number that you came up with seriously i would think it would be more. >> bill: more than than that you think. >> we will stop on one day and celebrate what professional thieves each of whom will make a minimum of $50,000. >> bill: they are not making jack, these guys unless they do well and then they get all the bonuses. >> bonuses kick in for a quarterback. >> bill: nothing like the nfl moguls are making them. the nfl looks like the biggest business in the country right now. >> it is. i mean, we are seeing real -- we are starting to see close to parody on salaries in the nfl by position. and it's great to see because as you know behemoth has to eat. not easy to get to 450 pounds. a lot of money. you are picking who. >> i'm picking the new york giants. >> bill: so am i. >> 34-24. >> bill: 27-24. going to be a close game. >> great to be with you, bill. >> bill: joe namath how

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>> bill: back of the book segment tonight. super bowl is sunday evening in indianapolis. who better to analyze the football situation in america than the legendary joe maim meth in jupiter beach this evening. you were one of my boy hood idols. i wore white shoes. people made fun of me for doing that because i was terrible and you were great. 1969 when the jets were in the super bowl you made a prediction and you guys were underdogs that you were going to win that game. you predicted flat out you were going to win the game and did you win it. what kind of pressure did that prediction bring upon you during the game?

>> well, bill, the pressure wasn't existing. i promise you. i just reacted to someone's question and told them how i felt about the game. i knew we were going to win that game or at least close it knowing it as possible. i was convinced that our team was better than the other people. that we were going to win. >> bill: now did we -- coach at the time kind of a little guy. did he get mad at you saying namath, what are you guaranteeing a win? the other team is going to come out and rip your head off. you gave them a motivation. did anybody say that to you? >> absolutely. boy, the next morning at practice after i said that. [ laughter ] >> post eubanks called me over, coach eubank our offensive quarterback standing in the middle of the field. coach eubank said what you have done? think about this, those colts

are so overconfident they weren't preparing right. they were overconfident. now you have given them something to get fired up about. >> bill: here is the toll it took on you physically. you have two artificial knees. have you got a disjointed vertebrae in your neck. broken bones in your feet and hands. separated your shoulder. broke your cheekbone. suffered numerous concussions. a wrist injury. you know, even a hard time getting out of bed for many years. that's pretty standard for an nfl player, is it not? >> it is. and it's down right frightening. it really is scary. you see, it's a great sport. but our bodies are not designed for the riggers of football. >> bill: is it worse now than it was when you were playing because the players are bigger and faster than they were back then. >> the players are bigger, faster, i don't know if the contact is any more violent than a violent hit ofiester

year. it's a safer game today. the nfl as a league have prohibited some types of hits. >> bill: they try to save the quarterback the helmet to helmet. they can't they smash you. when you were playing they would smash you all day long. i remember seeing you at chase stadium with the oakland radars, they were coming in 10 minutes after the play and they would whack you. it is ridiculous. they would whack you when you were on the sideline. whack you. so they have -- that was so brutal when you were playing, particularly in the afl that it was almost frightening. do you regret the tool it took on your body? >> no. in a sense, i'm lucky. because i know things could be worse. you know, my insides are in good shape. my arm, my liver, my kidneys, all that stuff. and things from time to time painful, but i consider myself

very lucky. i don't know if i had a son, bill, i don't know that i would want him to play football. if he wanted to play, of course i would let him. but i tried to play another sport because it is that difficult. it does take major toll on the body and now the head. >> bill: concussions are very, very frightening. finally on the game on sunday. i understand you are picking the patriots, right? >> why? i will tell you. the giants are very fortunate to be where they are. the packers beat themselves with drop balls, turnovers, played probably the worst game they played that year. san francisco said here, you go ahead and take the game, giants, two big turnovers to enable the giants to win that game. i know new england could have lost to baltimore on a couple of plays or at least gone into overtime but i will tell you what, the way i have been seeing the giants carry themselves. they seem to me that they are

so happy with what they have done toward the end of the season and done in the playoffs, they spent a lot of time enjoying that whenever i watch the demeanor of these new england patriots and the way they are going business. i'm giving that edge to new england. in preparation and coach belichick. tom coffman is brilliant but i believe new england is going to come out and they are going to be hard to stop. yeah. i'm picking new england to win the game. >> bill: all right. joe namath, everybody. i appreciate it joe. great to have you on the program. >> we will see you in the city sometime, bill. thank you. >> bill: pinheads and patriots killed juan williams. killed juan williams. is this guy in the other office devices? they don't get me. they're all like, "hey, brother, doesn't it bother you that no one notices you?" and i'm like, "doesn't it bother you you're not reliable?" and they say, "shut up!" and i'm like, "you shut up." in business, it's all about reliability. 'cause these guys aren't just hitting "print." they're hitting "dream."

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