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policies are shut down the or side. >> it's $200,000 grant to an organization to find out information about glenn beck. >> sean: we're out of time. greta is next. see you tomorrow night. thanks for being with us. >> greta: big news in the death of whitney houston. plus, a new family drama is developing in her hometown, in los angeles the probe into houston's drug history deepens. we have the latest developments. solyndra scandal that squandered $535 million of your the taxpayer money. there is news tonight. the battle gets nasty in just a few minutes. the zbloos. >> greta: moments ago g.o.p. presidential candidate rick santorum releasing tax returns. releasing four years of returns, 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010.
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now that is more than any other g.o.p. candidate has released. newt gingrich and they released one return. governor ramirez released an estimate for his 2011 returns. senator santorum decided to release 40 years. santorum has been promising it for several weeks but when he went home to prepare taxes his young daughter became very ill and spent the weekend in the hospital. senator santorum will be on the record tomorrow night. we'll bring you more developments later in tonight's program. newt gingrich joins us. good evening, sir? >> good evening, good to be with you. >> greta: mr. speaker, i've been listening the place you are going to keep your eyes on, pick up the surge was in the state of texas that governor perry had
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endorsed and wind behind your back. it's now been announced there have been problems with the the day of the primary, it's not going to be early april but it looks like late may, perhaps the 29 of may. does that change your strategy, sir? >> no, it means we're going to have to pick up the delegates just before the california primary. we'll have to pick up more delegates out here. assuming on super tuesday, georgia, tennessee, oklahoma, looking at ohio, week after super tuesday looking at alabama and mississippi. now we have hopes we're going to keep picking up delegates and race is going on for a long time. with texas moving back means combined with california being in early june, two biggest states in the country aren't going to be deciding. they may well be the two states that decides who the nominee is. >> greta: if you could pick up
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texas early on, it would be a good for donors, it would be a good incentives to pay in the campaign if you picked up 155 delegates? >> it's always better to pick them up early on ahead of time. but with governor perry on our side we are confident we can win texas. what will it looks like by the time of the convention? i think we'll have a lot of delegates. our job is focus on what is practical and not what isn't. we have to go ahead and focus on what we can do. what we can do is work out in georgia friday and saturday and oklahoma in o monday and campaigning in tennessee and ohio. these are states that are real and immediate and now. we've got a pretty good number of delegates by the middle of march. >> greta: you didn't mention michigan.
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february 28th. the battle with senator santorum leading governor romney whose father was governor of the state. your thoughts on that race tonight. why aren't you competing there? >> we are competing. i will be campaigning next week. we have every reason we'll be competing effectively and number of surrogates. you have to break 15%. its proportional representation state. i think we will do that. we will pick up delegates in michigan. my prediction is mitt romney attacks santorum as negatively as he attacked me in florida and elsewhere. you'll see he'll peel them off santorum and they are coming to me. in this the challenge romney has. he has congressman ron paul who has done maine. rick santorum did very well next week. i came in second in florida and
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in nevada. i came in first in south carolina. at some point if all governor ramirez has is negative campaigning, where is the positive message? i've got a new message out, getting back to $2 gasoline, how to have a national energy policy designed to solve our major problems. i'm going to continue to focus on these positive messages. >> greta: you mentioned the negative ads. i don't know if you were watching sean hannity, which candidate was running the most negative ads and romney won at 57%. so i think -- although they may say he runs the most negative ads but they still vote for them because they are very effective? >> in maine, a new england state he got 39%.
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i think home state of michigan as you pointed out. santorum is ahead of him. people are looking for a positive leader who has a positive solution on jobs, a positive solution on gasoline and energy. frankly, somebody who is going to stand up to the obama administration's war against christianity and going to draw a line in the stand and were prepared to fight for religious freedom in america. i think you have three or four things coming together where people want issue orientated leadership. they don't want somebody with a deep pocket of wall street money running negative ads. >> you mentioned gasoline, the price of gasoline has gone up 8%. the rise of gasoline prices doesn't hurt the rich but it does pinch the middle-class and people are below the middle-class line. it can put a thumb on the economy.
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if you are president of the united states tonight what would you be doing about gas policy and when would the prices come down? >> gasoline was a 1.13 on gallon when way as speaker, 1.89 when obama was sworn in. in california it's above $4 in some places. one, i signed the keystone pipeline immediately to start canadian oil moving into the united states. i would open offshore development in gulf of mexico and also in alaska. three i would open up federal lands. one great breakthrough has been north dakota and the reason it's on private land. the liberals have not been able to stop it. if we allowed federal land to be developed. we would have a shocking amount of energy. we would in fact rapidly become independent of the middle east. no american president would have to bow to a saudi king and we
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could get gas down to $2 -- you don't need standards if you are moving toward that price of gasoline. >> greta: those are broad policies, i understand that, people who are going to the gas pump today, they want it down yesterday. i'm curious. let's say the next month. these prices are going up. is there -- is that asking something that can't be done? >> the big future is pricing factor in gasoline and oil. they are very much affected by the what is happening in the straits of hormuz. if the president that we go opening up the gulf of mention co-and announced they were going to open up federal lands, would you see the future of expectation of gasoline prices would start to drop tomorrow
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morning and pretty rapidly lower the price of gasoline. when reagan dearresting late gasoline which was first order of his presidency it took about six months for prices to collapse. so i think if you opened up the mark you would see gas prices starting down dramatically. if people knew that the united states was once again going to become the largest oil and gas producer in the world you would see prices accommodate. within a year, see prices down at 2.50 i think is stable investment price, occasionally dropping down to $2. >> greta: one last question. the accommodation trying to cure this problem he is having the problem with the catholic church with contraception and healthcare bill. i assume that the catholic church on this. on is there any way to work this
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out between the two? >> no. it's a very straight question here. does the government of the united states have the right to overrule a religious organization in how it deals with religious circumstances. can the government dictate whether baptist church, catholic church, greek orthodox church. government has the right to dictate to churches. those of us believe in america believe we were founded people that were fleeing to religious pers cushion. what barack obama is doing the most secular anti-rjsz bigotry that we have seen in president. he has back down and concede that no government can come between man and god. >> greta: catholic hospital and churches, but into the not to be too flip. but speaker gingrich, thank you,
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sir. >> great to be with you. >> greta: they are calling president obama's budget plan a fantasy budget. >>. >> good evening. >> you can't call the budget plan or fan ton tom. >> you were on the senate budget. i realize you are in minority. you are putting? >> no hearings, talk about budgetary matters. on the assumption at some point somewhere in the distant future we might some day do a budget. its complete sham. >> greta: we called senator harry reid's office. i can't figure out why a budget bill house has put one up and
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senate democrats have not done it. he said there is no intention, there is no inintention and he said as far as the budget act last august suffices. >> what the democrats and senate are doing is following their leader following the president in terms of not taking any of the big issues on. at least the president has to put fostered a budget. he gives us a budget. it doesn't do anything. it is incomprehensible that the united states congress can spend $3.7 trillion and people's money ever single year and that way not do a budget. not have a plan how it's going spent. >> greta: senate -- i'm not saying a good budget or bad budget but someone saying no budget and we pay to get a budget. >> that is why the budget law
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neemd to be reformed. you do the job and follow the law, it's a non-binding resolution when it is passed. president doesn't have to sign it. it gets routinely waived but what is incredibly frustrated for those that believe we should do a budget we will get a budget in the senate and get on one in house budget and get a vote on the president's vote. there wasn't a single democrat that voted for it. >> greta: without any budget coming, you can't negotiate. harry reid, pocket veto and denying the opportunity to fight and opportunity to debate. >> including his democrats. maybe what this really spells out the need for a balanced budget amendment to the constitution. there is a constitutional requirement that they balance their budget every year. we just don't have anything like that. right now we don't have any
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leadership. it's incredibly frustrating as you said sit on the budget committee and go to the hearings and listen to the witnesses and get spending under control. >> greta: it would drive me nuts to sit there. >> we malign the leadership that they need to do a budget. but this will be now the fourth year in a row. i've been on the committee for a couple years. it's really useless committee, we're not doing anything. >> greta: we have a minute left. you don't like the budget? >> president's budget punted on all the major issues. these are serious times and requires serious leadership. we're not getting it. the president is adding $11 trillion to the debt over the course of the next decade. increases spending by 62%. you think with $2 trillion tax inkreetsz you would do something to get the debt under control.
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>> how do we operate with no budget? >> continuing resolution, probably at some point at the end of year. appropriation committee will mark bills, at least at some point we think to the number that was agreed to the budget control act last august, but without a budget, you really don't have any blueprint. >> greta: we have a budget for a show. everybody has a budget. we are supposed to be 10:00, we have to be here at 10:00. the senate is supposed to be steward of the government. >> its complete failure of leadership and complete abdication of responsibility. the house will pass one. we'll probably get a vote on it in the senate you it's the going anywhere. >> greta: nice to see you. a disturbing controversy surrounding whitney houston's funeral. we'll have the latest from tmz.
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>> greta: new drama surrounding whitney houston's funeral. reports of problems with the relatives. we have the latest from mike walters. >> nice to see you. >> greta: i understand mike there is an unfortunate family drama that unfolding about the funeral of whitney houston. >> reporter: yeah, greta. they don't want bobby brown there. the problem is, he is the father of whitney's daughter bobby christina and it's become an issue, bobby brown is responsible as the negative driving force behind whitney's spiral in her life but they feel right now he is just going to cause a scene. they feel like it's not the right time or place for bobby brown and his side of the family to be at this funeral especially
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since kristina is having such a hard time with the death. >> is bobbi kristina, does she want her father there or not? >> she does want her father around. but he has been absentee father for last three or four years. bobbi has had hard time with drugs and alcohol. the family just wants bobby to be around a minimal amount of time. a funeral for her mother, they think bobby should keep the distance. >> is he going to push the issue and show up? >> i am told he is. even though he has heard through the grapevine the family doesn't want him there, he has the right. he also wants to be there for his daughter. so i am told by his side he is not going to make a scene. i'm told that whitney's family is not going to stop him from
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coming in but not make it a huge deal. they are telling him, please don't do it. we would rather not have it done this way. >> greta: any idea how much the estate is like. sometimes they huge amount of money but they have a lot of people who are taking money from them. a lot of people on staff and entourage and offers and money bleeds rather rapidly. was she destitute almost? >> i'm told right now the estate is worth somewhere around $10 million. you are right. in the past, i think about ten years ago, it was that whitney signed the $100 million package deal. this woman had money. reality a lot of the spending when she was married to bobby brown and some of stuff they did with the money, they ended up with a lot less than hundred million dollars. there is a big story and that is
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bobbi kristina is about the millionaire in the family. it's like michael jackson, we don't want to think in those terms, michael jackson had a ton of debt but once he died the estate is full of money. bobbi kristina is going to get the money and lots of people bobby brown leaching off that money because their mom and dad were divorced. >> greta: ever since whitney died, people start buy more of her music and that is where the money is coming in, all of a sudden people want her music. >> when she died, i was working on the story, on my car ride home i downloaded her greatest hits. a lot of people are doing that. i'm told by the family their business advisors have told them the estate in the next year will earn between $20-40 million.
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it hasn't made that money especially her music in a long time. that is a big chunk of money that a lot of consumers are kind of wanting to give. people want to hear her music. they don't want to think about this tragic situation, they want to hear the good notes she hits on her songs. >> greta: she was in rehab at some point so she was sober. when she was doing the movie sparkle she was sober and doing quite well and then something happened. do we have any information why she fell off the wag open? what happened that she hit the skids? >> you are right about park will. she does a lot of her own singing and it was phenomenal. she was hitting the notes she hit in the past. after most of the initial filming of the movie when they were doing re-shoots she fell
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off the wagon. you can't blame everybody else especially if you are an addict a lot of enablers around whitney people she wasn't vetting what kind of personalities, people that were allowing her or pushing her to drink alcohol and go out and party and go to nightclubs and stuff like that. i am told that these enablers had a lot to do with the last two months that she fell off the wagon. i'm told about how bad the wag on on an is. of the two months, she was drinking almost every day. that is a bad thing for somebody who is an addict for such a long time. >> greta: mike, thank you. and i get all my news from tmz so that is where i go for the latest. >> thanks, greta, see ya. >> coming up, anna nicole smith, michael jackson and now whitney
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houston. once again the focus turns to medical and drug records. what secrets do those records hold? also new political polls are in, romney has trouble in michigan. rick cline is here to look at the critical contest. @@ there's another way to help eliminate
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in a probe of whitney houston's death. los angeles coroner has requested subpoenas for medical and pharmacy records. dr. michael baden joins us. i'm curious, if the coroner concluded that she has not died from natural causes, no stroke, it's a bit of mystery as to why she died. >> my understanding would be if it were natural causes, heart attack, high blood pressure, that would be the cause of the death. because it's not natural causes is why they would do further studies and why the toxicology is so important. >> greta: do they actually know why she died? maybe drugs caused her to die but do they know why she died? >> there is an issue, did she drown in the bathtub. if she did drown, was drugs
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involved in it? they can't get to that --. >> greta: wouldn't they know if the lungs were filled with water she drowned? >> if the lungs were filled with water she drowned. they still wouldn't know that drugs were involved but they didn't say lungs were filled with water. >> greta: i am curious how the examination goes. >> sometimes, 15-15% of the time people can drown without water in the lungs. >> greta: so the records have been subpoenaed. what kind of drugs was she on but there is a little more than that? >> they don't know all the toxicology shows. most of it is probably done by now. but they will check it and recheck it and how it compares with the medications given by various physicians and whether
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the police were given all the medications, bottles when she passed away. >> greta: let me ask a question about addicts. if you are an alcoholic or drug addict of some sort and you go into rehab. you come out and you are sober eight to ten months. then all of a sudden you wake up and you have that drink or that drug. does it set it off? are you off to the races at that point? >> it can be. alcohol anonymous says the first drink is going to set it off. it doesn't have to. for some reason they break their abstinence, keeps them going. with drug addicts the problem is if they are in abstinence and drug program and few months later come out and use the same amount of drug as when they went into the program that could be lethal because they lost their
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tolerance for the drug. >> greta: you are responsible for putting the drugs and alcohol into your system. i wouldn't hand a gun to a deranged individual to put up to his or her head. i'm trying to think of people hanging around with her that would any way provide to her. it was no secret she had a drug and alcohol problem? >> the problem with high profile cases especially people around enablers. they want the person to feel better. they don't want to call attention that they are sick or having problems. they don't forbid taking alcohol or drugs that they should. the individual is an adult and she can do what she wants to do. the answer to all these questions will come up after the toxicology and the quantityization of the drugs is
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determined. >> greta: is there any chance it's not drugs or alcohol? >> there is slight chance. if she had died of certain infection, encephalitis of the brain or myocarditis that can only be picked up by the microscopic slides. that is kind of unusual without a history but it's possible for somebody to have a heart infection or brain and not be recognized until the doctors look at tissue under the microscope. >> greta: dr. baden, thank you, sir. >> mounting tensions between congress and the white house over the solyndra scandal. taxpayers are still on the hook for half a billion dollars. house republicans say it's time to force obama administration to talk. the latest coming up. plus, what does president obama really talk about while flying on his helicopter. jay carney lets us in on the secret.
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>> greta: senator rick santorum is flying high. we'll tell i. why let's go to the new york newsroom where even even is standing by. >> police increasing security around israeli interests here in new york city amid mounting tensions over iran. nypd spokesperson there are no specific threats but security has been put into place based on events overseas. meanwhile, iran has moved closer to production of nuclear fuel. death toll rising in a honduras prison fire making the deadliest in a century. judge says 358 people are confirmed dead and the person with double capacity at the time of the fire. one inmates yelled, quote, we will all die here before setting his bed on fire. i'm ainsley earhardt, back to greta.
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>> greta: this is a fox news alert. a key endorsement for mitt romney in his must win michigan. fox news is confirming that rick snyder will announce his endorsement of mitt romney. santorum is leading in michigan so the burning question, with the latest endorsement put governor romney back in the lead in michigan. according to the latest poll of michigan voters, senator santorum is leading 35% to 32%. but that is not the only michigan polling tonight. real clear shows wider gap. in that poll leads by 9 points. so how important is this michigan race? senior washington editor rick cline joins us. >> this is ballgame for mitt romney. this is must win state for him. there is no way to explain why he would be okay to losing his
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native state and big industrial battleground state. these are the wings voters that determine elections and they are key to mitt romney's argument about elect battle built. if he can't win he'll have a real problem that he would be the best nominee. >> greta: and imagine going in the state of michigan and be against the bailout of auto industry and ask them to vote. >> sha what makes the story so deep and textured. the op-ed let detroit go bankrupt. just on the face a lot of folks in michigan say that is hard to explain especially because the bailout seems to have worked. he has explanations and talks about managed bankruptcy but that is tough headline to get out from behind. that is why he is driving a car in michigan trying to clear up his ties to the auto industry and state of michigan.
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>> greta: this endorsement by the governor gives a lot of media attention? >> mitt romney's is not the endorsement he has been racking them up just fine. i don't think it's going to move the needle much. he has two weeks to define the choice, bring it back to economic policy and jobs and the economy, explain his own position on the auto bailout and more than that, really define rick santorum, take the fight to him. he hasn't done it in sustained way. he and his super pac has been after newt gingrich and they will turn the guns on rick santorum. >> should rick santorum win, what does it do for him? >> that will be the huge boost. that will make the nomination wide open. right now mitt romney is the front-runner. if he wins two weeks from yesterday, he will be front-runner going into super tuesday. if rick santorum wins, he won in a state not just a caucus stated he is going into a big important
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state and winning in the backyard of the front-runner. you would have to consider him a front-runner as well and you would have two-man race. the. >> greta: texas was a state that speaker gingrich was an important state for him. he expected the primary is being pushed off to the end of may. >> it's important. he has talked about that. it's a big collection of delegates, especially in california, how many delegates in that state. not having that front end of process hurts them, it would give him momentum moving forward. he is coming off lagging peavms. the flip side, that big delegate group is sitting at the end of the process. so its target if he has some losses to stick around for a while. it suggests that this process is going to last a long time. >> greta: who does obama
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campaign fear the is most? >> mitt romney is the person. >> greta: why? >> because he can make a strong argument about jobs and economy is the toughest to beat. rick santorum they can beat handedly. >> greta: if the economy trends better does it diminish his campaign better? >> if the economy is better, obama chances are better. there are outside factors, foreign policies, what is going on in syria and iran, gas prices. >> greta: gas prices was an issue for governor romney but the foreign issues are better for the president? >> perhaps, depending on the direction. president does better if the economy does better. that may take away from the key issues that mitt romney has. they are looking at a match-up right now. there is no question in their mind they their rick santorum would be the person to beat the easiest. >> greta: a move that will put
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the white house on edge. battle over solyndra, it could reach a boiling point. house panel threatening a subpoena that could happen on friday. why is it so hot? the bankruptcy solar company cost one-half billion dollars and they aren't getting answers from the obama administration. joe stevens joins us. tell me what is going on with this. is the white house coming up with the answer to do what the house wants before friday or is this subpoena battle? >> that is what makes it exciting. there is a threat of subpoena battle on friday morning. we don't know what the white house is going to do. they have been cooperative and committee has not found anything that suggests anything is wrong. there is no reason to give them anymore. what we've seen before, a game of brinkmanship. this is one year this week since this committee started the solyndra investigation. repeatedly they had this battle,
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the white house and committee demands things and rattle sabers and they reach a compromise a couple times. they subpoenaed documents originally the could committee wasn't getting what they wanted. white house turned over some documents but not all the documents. you have to wait and watch and we'll all find out together. >> greta: is there something specific that the house is looking for from the white house? >> they want to find out how the solyndra loan was restructured. before they went under, it violated the terms of its loan. it almost went under. instead, the administration restructured the loan gave them another chance at life and then they went under. as part of that private investors get ahead of the taxpayers to get repaid. now, the private investors are ahead of the taxpayers for
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repayment. the committee says they want to find out how it happened. they need to talk to the people. hands on directly involved and they haven't had that chance yet. >> greta: usually you find this smoking gun in e-mails or written documents. has the white house surrendered all the documents that the committee has asked for? >> white house has surrendered all the documents that the committee needs. we don't know how many documents there are. we don't know what are in the documents we haven't seen yet. the white house says has given everything that is response i have and there is nothing there. >> greta: and subpoena is not going off to the president, it's going to people that work at the white house? >> they have to talk to the guys that do the work at the white house, the office of management and budget. these are the people whose names on the e-mails.
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people who were talking worried about the company going on. the oeb was more worried about solyndra than the department of energy. department of energy stepped in and gave solyndra another chance the lime. the omb, they were kind of rolling their eyes, we don't know about this company. it looks like it's got rough times. it will be an interesting tale and definitely interesting between now and friday morning. >> greta: we'll see who blinks first. joe, thank you. straight ahead, a street sweeper strikes goal. you will not believe he pulled out of a dirty drain. and new set back for martha stewart, what is it this time? not what you think but do you want to know, so you need to stay tuned. [ male announcer ] we know you don't wait
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>> greta: here is the best of the rest. democratic congresswoman maxine waters fires a sharp attack at top republican leaders, speaker john boehner and eric cantor. here is what waters said. >> we've got to take back the house! i saw pictures of boehner and
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cantor on our screen. don't ever let me see again in life those republicans in our hall on our screen talking about anything! [ applause ] >> these are demons! these are legislators who are destroying this country. >> greta: congresswoman waters is speaking at democratic convention. president obama is getting in on the lin-sanity. he has been following new york knicks star jeremy lin. just recently he was an unknown basketball player living on his brother's couch. now, he has led the knicks to six straight wins, jay carney and obama were talking about lin while flying on marine one. president was praising his
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performance last night. he made a last second 3-point shot to win the game. >> talk about striking gold. a street sweeper dug up a rolex watch. it was valued at $33,000 to be cleaned and then he turned it right over to police. police are looking for the watch's owner. if it's not claimed in 30 days, the street sweeper gets to keep it. and minnesota man has a lot of dirty laundry. they arrested him for stealing $25,000 worth of laundry detergent. he stole cart loads of detergent. store workers called police when they discovered the crime. we don't know why the suspect wants all that soap but enough to wash more than 82,000 loads of laundry. >> and big disappointment for martha stewart, her dog did not
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