welcome to "america live," everyone, i'm megyn kelly. roughly 7:30 eastern time this morning, reports of shots fired in a high school in ohio east of cleveland. a student opened fire in the cafeteria, then began chasing specific victims through the school. police are not publicly identifying that shooter, but in moments we'll show you what we've learned. police telling us one student has died, four others are injured, and we are getting new and frightening descriptions of the moments the shots rang out. >> there's no words to describe it. i can't -- there's nothing. i was literally 20 feet away, not even, and i saw him -- i'm in shock. like, i have nothing to say. >> what did he do? >> he pulled a gun out and just started shooting kids. i saw the one drop, and i ran. >> five kids were shot. >> have you been able to talk to your kids? >> yeah. >> what have they said to you?

>> scared. can't getting ahold of friends. >> texting back and forth or just calling? >> thai trying to, so they're worried. >> i haven't been able to get ahold of my kids, unfortunately. trying to figure out whatever information i can. megyn: can you imagine? can you imagine that? trace gallagher's at our breaking news desk on a story we've seen too many times. >> reporter: way too many times, megyn. several student witnesses have also identified who this shooter is to us and our affiliate in cleveland but, again, several sources as well because this alleged shooter's under the aim of 18, and -- age of 18, and he has not been officially charged by police, they will not release his identification, so we won't either, but we are learning a lot more about who he is and what he posted online this recent days and weeks in a poem. the alleged shooter posted on his facebook page, it ends with

this, and i'm quoting here: now feel death not just mocking you, not just stalking you but inside of you. wriggle and writhe. feel smaller beneath my might. seizure in the pest lance that is my scythe. he ends it by saying, die, all of you. the shooter reportedly also posted on twitter three pictures of himself. in the first picture he's carrying a knife. in the second picture, he has two guns pointed at the camera, and the third picture simply has a card with the date that says 2/26 clash 12. the name of the high school is blanked out. listen, now, to the sheriff. >> we have a handgun involved and, again, we came down here, we knew you were waiting and looking for information, so many of the questions that you might ask we're getting information as we speak. >> reporter: there are reports by student witnesses, megyn, that the shooter actually chased

one of the students down the hall, and a report just coming out saying they believe a teacher is the one who actually chased the shooter outside of the school grounds where police arrested him. megyn: trace, thank you. this tragic story's very fluid with new information pouring in by the moment. in less than 30 minutes, we will go live outside one of the hospitals where some of the students were transported. we have a reporter live on the scene to help us understand how these students were targeted and how they're doing. we will also be joined by dr. keith ablow just a bit later to take us into the mind of shooters in these situations and of this particular shooter as we understand his identity at least at this hour based on those internet postings trace told usover. and we will also be joined by a school security expert who will try to tell us how to coach your child. you have to send your child to school worrying about math and

reading and college preparatory education, and you also have to tell them how to save his life in case somebody comes in with a gun. that's modern day america, unfortunately. so we'll have someone here with expertise on it, god forbid your child should ever need it. go to foxnews.com for the very latest in the meantime. fox news alert now, a new round of violence in afghanistan as the backlash grows over the quran burnings at a u.s. hill tear base. today a homicide car bomber rammed his vehicle into a nato base in afghanistan, just the latest in a string of attacks targeting american troops since the u.s. military burned qurans, reportedly this an effort to stop detainees in afghanistan from passing jihadist messages together inside of islam's holy book. the burnings happened a week ago. within days our president apologized, but this is turning into a major incident.

here's what's happened over the last few days. two u.s. servicemen were killed on thursday. then on saturday an attacker shot to death two more u.s. service members execution style inside a heavily-guarded ministry build anything kabul. yesterday seven u.s. military trainers were injured after a grenade attack at their base in northern afghanistan. day nine, afghan -- today nine afghan citizens killed, the taliban claiming responsibility for that one saying it is revenge for the quran burning. now, the first u.s. troops were reportedly murdered by afghan army members. we trained these guys. joining me now with more is conor powell streaming live from kabul. connor? >> reporter: megyn, afghanistan is always a violent place, but the burning of qurans by u.s. soldiers last week set off a wave of violence unprecedented here. it's also created one of the most difficult challenges and crises that the u.s. and

international community's ever faced during this more than ten-year war. the u.n. announced today it is relocating some of its international workers because of fear from attack. this comes on today's attack in which nine afghans were killed, 25 injured when the taliban set off a massive car bomb outside the forward operating base fenti which is the military side of the airport in jalalabad, eastern afghanistan, a large military contingent and a lot of civilian contractors. it is a prime target for the taliban, and that's just why they went after them. now, new information on the hunt for the afghan police officer who shot the two u.s. soldiers on saturday, the suspect is a 25-year-old police officer who reportedly said he was in pakistan before coming a police officer here in kabul. the u.s. military says he is still at large, but the afghans have arrested several family members of his trying to hunt him down. this entire week of violence has

dramatically called into question the entire strategy here in afghanistan. the strategy here centers around u.s. and international troops training afghans, especially in small numbers as the overall u.s. and international force draws down over the next two years here. it specializes on u.s. trainers here. general john allen has moved those trainers out of the ministries here this in kabul, the u.n. has moved some of its workers out, the international community has their employees on lockdown because there is such fear and anger and distrust between the communities right now it's not clear if this mission can go forward. big questions, megyn, about how this war will ultimately wrap up over the next few weeks. megyn: thank you very much. well, as the violence continues in afghanistan, we're also learning more about the u.s. service hebbs who were killed in the wake of -- service members who were killed in the wake of these quran burnings. t.j. conrad of virginia was one

of the of service members killed thursday. look at him with his little baby. when an afghan security guard, all right or? somebody we trained turned his gun on t.j. and another soldier. conrad was deployed to afghanistan in january and would have turned 23 years old next week. this is a photo here of conrad's casket being returned to dover air force base over the weekend. his family says he had spoken to hem them about the riots and his last words to them, quote, things are starting to get crazy. killed with conrad was joshua bourne of florida. he had been deployed a little more than a month. he leaves behind a 22-year-old widow, and we're learning the identity of one of the servicemen killed on saturday, john love us the. the 44-year-old leaves behind a wife and two daughters in florida. here you are looking at him

interacting with kids in an afghan village. he was part of a u.s. team skilled in local language and customs, and now there are so many questions surrounding this story. did we do the right thing by apologizing at the highest level, the president apologizing for the burning of those qurans which, of course, as you heard, was done we are told -- they're still investigating this -- as a means of eliminating a book, books that were being used to pass jihadist messages. did we do the right thing, and has this now brought a bigger message about what's going on in afghanistan? we'll be joined by two top military generals in our next hour who have some strong thoughts on this. well, tomorrow is a critical day in the gop primaries as voters cast ballots in and michigan. nationally the polls pretty tight, 31% saying they're picking mitt romney for the

nomination, that's according to the latest gallup poll, and 29% for rick santorum. some say the brutal attacks among the gop candidates are finally taking a toll. mike tobin is live in birmingham, michigan, watching the attacks in the ad wars. hey, mike. >> reporter: hello, megyn. there's a degree to which the major points are getting to be a little obvious in michigan. most important points in this race right now are jobs and the economy. it's also obvious that mitt romney is hearing the footsteps of rick santorum. at one point, at least, he framed himself up as the underdog, and he takes shots at santorum whenever he can. >> senator santorum's a nice guy, but he's never had a job in the private sector. he's worked as a lobbyist and an elected official, that's fine. but if issue of the day is the economy, i think to create jobs it helps to have a guy as president who's had a job, and i have. >> reporter: so the stakes are big in what is otherwise a

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megyn: well, former pennsylvania senator rick santorum today presenting his plan to salvage the troubled u.s. economy. santorum publishing his ten-point proposal for, quote, economic freedom in "the wall street journal" saying the u.s. budget process is broken. so what exactly is he hoping to change, and how are his ten points any different from his rivals'? lou dobbs, host of lou dobbs tonight. it's ten, it's not 57 -- >> that's an improvement. megyn: you can read it a little faster, it's only two page r -- pages, but is there anything new, big or bold in here? >> there's not anything new, and in fairness to senator santorum, then of these candidates is espousing anything particularly new or bold with the exception

of newt gingrich who is trying to advance at least the public policy discussion, i think, in a number of areas. but as to rick santorum, in talking about reducing spending by $5 trillion, that's important. it's not sufficient. in talking about getting rid of fannie mae and freddie mac, it's incomplete thinking. by the way, again, he's not alone in that. a number of candidates are just sort of automatically arbitrarily, each capriciously -- even capriciously saying let's get rid of fannie mae and freddie mac forgetting they put up 50 percent of the money in the housing market. whatever we do with them, we should do incrementally and with some prudence and understanding as to what the impact will be. megyn: he says he'll phase them out over several years. he does say it's going to take a while. i thought there were a couple of interesting points that jumped

out at me. you tell me whether this is new, allowing people whose mortgages are underwater to deduct the losses from the sale of their home, so it's a tax writeoff now, the loss, if you're underwater? >> helping that person who whose mortgage is underwater is not new, this idea's been advanced, i give the senator credit for that. megyn: how about corporate tax rate being cut in half to a of half rate of 17.5. that's lower than romney wants it. >> yeah. and, unfortunately, it's not lower than the effective rate corporate america is paying -- megyn: once they have all their writeoffs. we tax them at 35 president, but they have these writeoffs. >> so you're trying to reduce to what? you don't given at 28 or 25 or whatever the thurm is. you've got to, i think, be straightforward about it and say we're not going to tax you, or we're going to tax you at a level that means business.

megyn: what about he says we'll only have two income tax rates, 10% and 28%. >> that, again, has been advanced a number of times. it's effectively a flat tax which has been, you know, we can go back to our friend steve forbes and start looking at serious advocacy -- megyn: most of the people then say they're going to eliminate all the deductions you get up there, but he seems to be saying some people, i guess, he doesn't outline it in the journal piece but, yes, we'll eliminate some deductions, but he's going to trip and double other ones. he's going to get rid of the marriage tax penalty. is that good or bad? >> the idea behind it is good and, as you know, he puts that under the rubric of supporting and defending the american family which i think is critically important be societally, economically in the defense of the nation. but the problem with it is is it doesn't go far enough, nor does it get to the real issue of supporting the family. the number one reason for divorce in this country is

finance. what we've got to do is tie clearly and unequivocally the well being of american families to the creation of jobs, creation of wealth. megyn: but you agree with the personal, tripling the personal deduction for children? that's controversial. some have said that's another government handout, and some have said it's an incentive to some families to have children for tax deduction. >> if i would offer, if i may offer senator santorum another proposal that would be, in my opinion, more supportive of the family, and that would be to provide a tax break or a tax incentive to couples who stay married. for every year get an additional, you know, writeoff, a deduction or tax credit. megyn: i like that. you pay a penalty if you get a divorce. >> i can speak from experience, there are penalties to divorce. [laughter] and there are great rewards to a long marriage. i've been married for over 30 years. but we should be as a society putting very clearly a stamp of approval on those things that we

want which is enduring relationships, mature, you know, honest family units rather than these, you know, children who are having children. megyn: he's one of the only candidates who's focused on that. i want to ask you quickly, he talks about very broad brush terms about how, quote, i'll reform medicare and social security so they're fiscally stain bl for seniors and young people. well, find me a politician who hasn't said that and not delivered. >> well, the president really hasn't. he said at some point when he finds it convenient, he'll do that. none of these candidates has put forward a plan to deal with medicare -- megyn: kind of need some details on that. >> a lot of details, and they're all scared to death to touch it because they know that every -- megyn: the third rail. >> entitlements in this country, and there are 65 million of them, they're not going to be happy -- megyn: they don't want to hear that. lou, thank you. >> great to be with you.

megyn: catch lou, folks, on the fox business network every monday through friday, 7 p.m. eastern time. well, iran is today celebrating what it calls a big victory in hollywood after winning an oscar. but the ayatollahs aren't thanking the academy. up next, see how they are trying to turn this into a political win. and just ahead, is the president's team taking voters for granted? we'll show you why that question is getting new attention following a weekend event that is typically considered a campaign no-no. >> my presidency's not over. i've got another five years coming up. >> at the end of the day, the president is confident that he'll be successful not because of what anything the republican candidates are saying, because of the vision of the country that he wants to put forward to the american people. this is $100,000.

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megyn: gas prices spiking in recent weeks bringing more pain at the pump for millions of americans. according to a new survey, the average price for a gallon jumping 18 cents over the past two weeks. today's national average is $3.70 for a gallon of regular. we've been tracking prices specifically in cincinnati, just picking one city we can follow together. there it's $3.64 today. just a week ago it was at $3.46. that's an increase of 16 cents a gallon just over the past seven days. well, iran casting its shadow over hollywood's big night after winning its first foreign film oscar. the movie, "a separation," beating out a film from israel. never mind accepting the little gold statue with humility, iran claims the victory goes beyond movies and represents a triumph over israel itself. trace gallagher, boy, they can

always be counted on to exploit these situations, trace. >> reporter: and, you know, over the years, megyn, iranian films have won a number of awards at cannes and film festivals, but hardliners have always been critical saying they're way too westernizer. now you have this film, "separation," is now being lauded all over iran because it was in a competition with an israeli film, and it won. now all of a sudden it's a source of national pride. even though the film focuses on domestic turmoil, gender inequality and the desire by many iranians to leave the country, the film m kind of pulls back the curtain on troubled life in iran. here, by the way s the film maker after winning last night. >> at a time of war, intimidation and aggression exchanged between politicians, the name of the country, iran,

is spoken throughout the culture. a recent asian culture that has been under the heavy doubt of politics. >> reporter: he's saying too much politics in film making. now, iranian state tv came out and said this, and i'm quoting here, leaves behind the zionist regime which, of course, is a name that iran often uses for israel. we should also point out that critics in israel loved the film. one of the leading critics there saying, look, the film was very well written, very well acted, it was a masterpiece. but a lot of people in iran still on the fence, some of the hardliners saying that the film makes its seem like it's a dream to leave iran and go to western countries. megyn? megyn: wow. trace, thank you. by the way, that is a dream of one christian man who has now been sentenced to death for being christian. that's his dream, to leave iran and get home here.

it's not looking good, and we're going to talk about it in 15 minutes right now, right here. also, is president obama taking voters for granted? usually you try to not predict a big win in a re-election effort in part for fear of sending supporters a message that their vote doesn't really matter, you've got it sewn up. so what why has the president or key members of his team predicted victory next november three times in recent days? we'll talk about it. and the deadly school shoot anything ohio. the investigation still unfolding as an american community begins to cope with an unspeakable tragedy. >> i saw people running by my classroom, and then i heard, like, a door slam, but people say it was a gunshot, so -- >> i was in french class, and two girls came back, and they said that someone got shot, and we all just dove and went to the back of the classroom. >> it had to be terrifying. >> yeah. ♪

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now. >> reporter: good afternoon, megyn. five students shot, two of them being treated here at hillcrest hospital. sadly enough, one student has passed away this morning. we are just finding out he has now been identified as daniel parmentor. his family has released a statement which reads in part: we are shocked by this senseless tragedy. around 7:30 this morning when school was just getting ready to start, a gunman walked inside of chardon high school, that's about 30 minutes east of cleveland. the shoot occurred in -- shootings occurred in multiple locations, but at least one of the shots had been fired in the cafeteria. because the shots were fired in multiple slow cases, it suggests the shooter may have had specific targets in mind. as for the shooter, his name, age is not being released, all we can really tell you at this point is that he is a student, he was apprehended a short time later. we're told that a teacher

reportedly chased him out. he is now being held at the sheriff's department. but again, just to recap, five students were shot, one of those students has passed away, two of them are now being treated here at hillcrest hospital, a young boy and a girl. one is in stable condition and the other one is in serious condition. megyn: thank you. new questions on the campaign trail about whether the president might be taking voters for granted. those questions come after the president and key members of his team predict victory next november, even assume victory next november on three separate occasions in recent days. >> my presidency's not over. i've got another five years coming up. >> the circumstances both at the apollo theater and last night at the event here, i think, were pretty unique. so i can't predict the next time

maybe at the inauguration next year. >> at the end of the day, the president is confident he'll be successful. the reason the president is confident is not because of anything the republican candidates are saying, it's because of the vision of the country that he wants to put forward to the american people. >> i would say watch what president obama says and does. he's our president, he represents all the united states, and he will be reelected president, so i think that that will be a very clear signal to the entire world as to what our values are and what our president believes. megyn: joining me now, brad blakeman and dick harpootlian, south carolina democratic party chair. brad, you think the president's getting cocky, and you say he's getting too cocky. >> i do. i think there's a big difference between being confident and cocky, and you're seeing it in the clips that you just played. this white house is trying to convince themselves that this president has an easy road. perhaps he believes that the republican field is weak, but i have a prediction, i think that that president could remain on the andrews air force base golf

course, i predict the republican will probably get the same vote. we are fighting over 8% of the vote in battleground states. independents, again, i think become the key to a victory in terms of overturning obama's reign as president. he has an abysmal record whether it's on the economy, whether it's on health care or energy, and that's what he's going to have to stand on. and, dick, i have news for you, there is no more george w. bush to blame, it's obama and his record that will be his achilles heel at the end of the day. megyn: he is anticipating your response, dick, and giving a preemptive rebuttal. does this turn people off? or do they like that? >> well, i think all he's expressing is a confidence that anybody would express whether it's mitt romney or rick santorum or ron paul or even barack obama, that i'm in this fight, and i'm going win.

and, brad, i'm not going to blame george bush anymore. we've pretty much cleaned up -- >> oh, good. great. >> -- the problems he started. we resolved the osama bin laden issue, the economy's turning around, the banks are getting more stable. it took almost four years, but we're about there. [laughter] megyn: it's a different sort of defense from dick today. brad, let me ask you that same question because, you know, it's one thing. you tell me, i heard a difference in what hillary clinton said versus what barack obama just said. he will be reelected. that's what, you know, that's what the supporters say, right? and romney says about mitt romney, he's going to be elected. but is it different when you have the president saying, and i quote, my presidency is not over. of -- i've got another five years coming. >> what the president should be doing, especially with the abysmal record that he has, is running like he's 10 or 20 points behind. you don't see that from this president or the people around him. it's a cockiness that is out of

touch with reality and that's been, i think, the problem with his presidency, is he's been ruling out of ideology instead of reality. he hasn't been doing necessarily what the american people want done. he's been following and marching to his own drum, and i think at the end of the day with unemployment higher than the president promised the american people would have unemployment at 8% or below, and now we know it's much higher than that when you take into account underemployed and people who have just given up. gas prices, i'm here in phoenix, arizona, important primary tomorrow, gas is over $4 a gallon out here. unemployment is higher than the national average, foreclosures are off the charts. these people are very dissatisfied, and in the inner cities who supported this president the most, it's double the national average of employment. so this president has a hard time not only convincing people without his base, but his base is hurting probably more -- megyn: well, but you're still saying he's going to get 45, 46% of the vote. >> i do, yes. megyn: the polls, depends on the week, but the latest gallup poll

last week put him four points behind mitt romney and only put him one point ahead of rick santorum. so some are questioning whether the confidence is well placed. >> i think two things. number one, i saw some polls this morning that put him six points up on romney and seven or eight points up on santorum, but that's not the issue. always expressing confidence. i got back from chicago a few weeks ago, i've within to the obama headquarters up there -- i've been to the obama headquarters, talked to the folks running the campaign. they're by no means taking anything for granted. they're turning over every stone. this is a president who's presided over 26 straight months of job growth. the stock market is as high as it's been since '08. we are, by the way, brad, almost self-sufficient in energy production. >> oh, that's nonsense. >> no, no, no, no. almost producing enough oil -- >> nonsense. >> it's not nonsense. >> it is. >> read tom friedman's column in

"the new york times" this weekend. >> i don't care what he has to say. we're not producing as much oil as we did 10 or 15 years ago, and our consumption has not gone done. >> consumption's gone down and production is going to exceed that consumption, brad. and so for -- it's actually going to be exporting oil in another five years if this friend continues -- trend continues which is good because then we won't need to import oil from people that hate our guts. this president has presided over that progress. megyn: all right, guys. >> he's killed the xl pipeline, he hasn't been building refineries, he won't let us -- [inaudible conversations] and let me tell you something, gas is going to $5 a gallon. >> you can hope, brad. you can hope. >> the president of shell oil, former president who predicted $5 a gallon gasoline because of this president's policies two years ago. >> you can hope, brad. the latest predictions, by the way, it's going to go to 5, but it's going to come back down to

$3 by november because libya's driving the train on that. not libya, iran. megyn: you guys are both great, thank you so much. >> thank you. megyn: new developments on the fate of an iranian pastor who's been sentenced to death for becoming christian. he's 34 year old, the father of two, and he chose to convert to christianity while live anything iran. that means a death sentence which has been handed down against this man. in three minutes, a new twist in the fierce battle to save his life. plus, moments ago the white house weighed in on the growing controversy over american soldiers being killed by the same afghans that we're there to defend. his response plus two of our top hill tear analysts on how -- military analysts on how this is being handled. plus, he is a fire fighter and former marine and now he is missing. why police suspect foul play. >> i want to talk to him, i feel like i need to talk to him.

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megyn: fox news alert, we are just now getting word that a christian pastor sentenced to death in iran is still alive. the 34-year-old was arrested more than two years ago, sentenced to death by hanging for converting from islam, and then he refused to renounce his christianity. we are getting these reports from the american center for law and justice. they have been trying to draw attention to this case to save this man's life. jay allen seculo you know from this program is chief counsel for that group, and you guy cans have been doing yeoman's work on this, jay. as of today, he is still alive but we don't know how much longer that's going to last. >> that's right. we got word on that this morning. talk about doing a good job. i want to thank fox news and

you, megyn, and the team at fox news. so many of the broadcasts have carried this story, and this is the reason this pastor's alive. in fact, last week when we were really aggressively promoting the fact that the execution order, it appeared, had been issued by the province court, the iranian government after the report we put forward and including reports from our own government, state department and the president issued a denial saying we have not sentenced him to death, we're, you know, we're charging him with crimes as bizarre as being a zionist spy. but as you know, we have the actual documents from the iranian court. he was charged, as you said, with apostte si, and that's what his conviction's for. he was charged and convicted because of his christian faith. they've given him three chances to recant his faith. in fact, last time they said just said mohamed is the prophet of god, this pastor said i can't do that, it violates my conscious. and now we're getting global support. again, i'm calling this media

advocacy, we're advocating for him in the media. that's what's keeping iran at least in line temporarily. the last case that reported hi had this significance, and this is unfortunate, ended with the actual pastor being hung in the early '90s, and the death warrant and the body of the pastor came at the same time. we're flying to avoid that now that we've -- trying to avoid that now that we've got not only media, but lawyers on the ground, we're working it globally. megyn: it hasn't been fox, it's been you guys. but let's get to where we stand now because we have a situation where our secretary of state, 89 members of congress, the european union, great britain, france, mexico, germany, they've all con condemned the government, but they are saying this is turning into a political matter given the sanctions ramping up on iran, and they may use those sanctions as an excuse to end this man's life early and without any negotiation. jay, i want to ask you to give us the big picture on this because our viewers may remember it was just last month that we, the american people, our

military saved 19 iranians from these pirates. and we saw those pictures -- >> twice, we've done it. megyn: twice! so one 13, one six. is in the thank you we get? they're going to execute this guy for being a christian, that's it? >> yeah. one of their own. they're trying to turn this into -- you bring up a very important point, megyn, they're trying to bring this to a political point, the sanctions, the pressure that's coming now between the israelis and the iranians. what we have to do is focus this on the fact that this is a human rights case. the political issues aren't going to go away with or without this pastor. but this pastor's been wrongly convicted, and the iranian regime has steined on to -- although they're not abiding by -- u.n. declarations. they are violating those including the universal declaration of human rights including accepting a new faith. this pastor, by the way, never was practicing islam although they charged him, as you said,

with apostasy. they're trying to turn this into a political issue, and that's why the statements coming out of the president and the secretary of state have been important. we're looking far joint resolution that could be -- for a joint resolution that could be voted on by wednesday with huge bipartisan support. you've got democrats and republicans, so this has got wide bipartisan support. but at the end of the day, you're right. the iranian regime is trying to turn this into part of a bargaining chip with the sanctions, and we're not going to let it happen. >> what is his background? >> he grew up in a home that the family was marginally muslim, if you will. he never embraced islam which you do at age, like in judaism at age 13 you're bar mitzvahed. he did not, he became a christian and eventually became a pastor, and that's what they're aiming at -- megyn: how does that happen in iran? >> you know, there are missionaries that have been there, and christianity has a

long history in iran, as does judaism. pre the iranian revolution, there was a vibrant community. obviously, that's changed, and the regime doesn't like that it's growing because it's a radical islamic regime -- megyn: why aren't -- if it's apostsi just to be a christian there, then why aren't they all sentenced to death? >> here's the unfortunate news. we're talking about the pastor, but there's literally hundreds, thousands of christians in jail in iran for practicing their faith. he's the face you see right now, but megyn, you hit it right on the head. this is an ongoing problem because they view christianity as a political threat to them which it's not at all. but that's how they view it. and thinking that's a threat to them becomes part of a targeted campaign here targeting execution. but there are thousands of christians in jail in iran, and you don't hear about them. megyn: unbelievable. go to the aclj's web site to call attention to this.

thank you so much, jay. coming up right here, we have some incredible pictures in today of a horrifying moment caught on tape showing a woman pushed onto the subway tracks with the train bearing down. that's next.

megyn: well, you're about to see some disturbing surveillance tape. a commuter pushing a woman onto the train tracks in london. closed circuit tv capturing these shocking images. the woman survives after missing the electrified rail by only inches. trace gallagher has more on this one. >> reporter: i've just never seen anything like it. this one is wild. the woman, 23 years old, apparently struck up a conversation with the suspect while they were on the platform, and the witnesses said they somehow got into an argument about the man's hat. you're going to see here as we roll the video the woman starts

walking toward the camera, down the platform. and now watch this, she's walking toward the camera, and here she is -- away there the camera, rather. watch the man come out of nowhere and, bam, violently pushes her down on the tracks. you see her on the right-hand side, and one of her friends tries to tackle the suspect, other witnesses are both helping her and trying to get the suspect tied down. somehow he got away, megyn. now we're going to slow the whole thing down for you. he pushes her down, she barely misses the electrical track which could have killed her, then the oncoming train was only seconds away. she was able to get up. the injuries to her side or -- were so bad that witnesses thought she'd been stabbed before she was push inside there. it wasn't that. she hit the ground so hard, that's what hurt her side. after all that, the suspect was able to get away, and the reason police are showing this again -- it happened three months ago -- is because they have no clues as to who he is or where he is.

there he is right there. take a look. if you though him, police would desperately love some information. again, it happened in london, and they're still looking for this guy. the woman has since recovered but very close to being a big tragedy on a train station in london. megyn: wow. if there's any silver lining, it's the quick reaction of those passers by who came to her rescue, something we're always quick to point out when they don't. we should be just as quick when they do. trace, thanks. >> reporter: okay. megyn: wow. why would a 17-year-old come to school on a monday, walk down to the cafeteria and open fire on class mates or what we believe were his class mates? we're hoping to have some new answers for you in our next hour along with some tips on how to train a student not to be a victim in these kinds of incidents. and it's a holiday cruise that cost more than anyone bargained for. why a gunpoint robbery at a popular tourist port could mean problems for the beleaguered cruise industry? and a presidential apology falling on deaf ears in

afghanistan. the taliban taking credit for a new round of attacks on u.s. troops after president obama eye poll eyesed for the burning of qurans. up next, two top military analysts join us with their take on whether this was the right move. in fact [ male announcer ] this is lois.

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student who was killed was trying to get under a table to protect himself. according to the stietd was a teacher who chased the student out of the school. unlike so many of these situations he is alive and has been apprehended. students and parents describing the more tying scene today. >> we just kept running. i thought it was fireworks or something. then we saw a kid drop in the fetal position. he was shot twice. then we kept running. and we just sprinted down the hallway and found safety there. >> we start seeing on the news shootings and teachers on the news with a possible shooting and s.w.a.t. started showing up and cops and guns. megyn: we are following this very closely.

look at anguish. as we you the latest. dr. keh ablow will join us with insight into what can drive someone to this kind of violence. we'll update you on the security measures you and your child can take if god forbid you should find yourself in this situation. we have breaking news from the campaign trail. polling from gallup shows mitt romney is gaining some momentum going into tomorrow's primaries in michigan and arizona. a gallup national poll shows romney leading by a bit over rick santorum by 20% to 22%. last week rick santorum held a double digit lead over romney. we are talking about super tuesday when 10 states are up

for grabs. massachusetts is one of them, that of course is where mitt romney served as governor. chris stirewalt is host of "power play" on foxnews.com. these are big, big states tomorrow. a fair amount of delegates upper to grabs. but the prize. the big contest, is a week from tomorrow. >> that right. super tuesday. only 5% of the delegates in the republican process have been spoken for. but about it end of march, by the end of the coming months more than half of them will have been spoken for. so things start happening very fast starting tomorrow. we have been through a 2-month warmup. now it gets very fast and the stakes gets very high. if you are not mitt romney and what you need coming out of this week if you are not a

presumptive front runner who is well funded with a national organization. you need the big mo coming out of tomorrow's election so you can go into the super tuesday states and add the consequences and the hill gets much steeper. megyn: even though we are on talking about handful of delegates. wins matter. just ask rick santorum who at the beginning of february was nowhere near the front runner and winds up winning colorado, minnesota and so on. then he catapults to the top of the national leaderboard which by the way even though he's behind web's still atop the leaderboard on by a little bit. but he's still at the top, 33% to mitt romney 29% and change. so wins matter. if he doesn't win michigan or arizona, hurts him a little bit going into super tuesday arguably. >> it looks bad in arizona.

a lot of libertarian minded folks in arizona. not the santorum brands. michigan is a place where he can do well. even if he loses, what he needs up there -- they apportion their delegates on the basis of congressional district. if he wins 6 or 7 of those congressional districts, even if he loses the popular vote and is way ahead of newt gingrich, he goes into super tuesday and says if you don't want to vote for mitt romney, i'm still the leading contender. i'm sometime the guy, and he can hope to go into ohio which will be the big headline on super tuesday and say's the blue collar heartland kind of guy. megyn: he's the "not romney." now it seems to be down to those two who is the "not romney." you mentioned gingrich. we have santorum up top. romney second.

gingrich is third. he's substantially behind. santorum has more than double what he has. then ron paul has been hanging steadily around 12%. you seguin grip of may not be out of this, depending on what happens the next 8 days. >> where we were before the south carolina primary, that was switched. newt gingrich was way ahead and rick santorum was down in the second tier with ron paul. there was a big spread and gingrich was saying he was the guy. rick santorum has said he's the guy. he's the "not romney" on top. what newt gingrich is hoping he can do is pull out the caucus they are having in state. then on super tuesday be mr. southern win down in georgia and oklahoma and make this case that maybe all four of them need to go to the convention and fight it out there. megyn: is there anyway we are going to know hot gop nominee is

a week from tomorrow? >> probably not. but we'll sure know a lot. if mitt romney has a good night tomorrow and next week we'll be closer to being able to say so. if rick santorum does things will remain wide open. megyn: fox news is your number one source for election news. that will be starting at 6:00 p.m. eastern with bret baier. then i'll be joining him and we'll have our special election coverage as we have throughout this presidential primary contest. we hope you join us tomorrow night at 6:00. there are serious questions being asked about our security interests after a group of hackers stole millions of sensitive emails with a company that does business with the intelligence community. they stroll the emails from the

private intel company. the emails went to the left wing web site who published them. what's going on, who hacked from whom and why are we worried? >> strafford is a private global intelligence company whose inner workings are being revealed. in december hackers broke into their computer and stole a large group of emails. the gripe anonymous bragged they were the thieves and they planned to publish them. today wikileaks began doing so publishing emails they claim will expose dark secrets. julian assange who is under house arrest in england said this today. >> this is an organization that does not just collect information, collecting information through bribes, through insiders.

it's also an organization that acts on that information to subvert particular groups, including wikileaks. >> the ceo says the thieves will be hard pressed to find anything significant. he says this is a deplorable breach of privacy. he says some may be authentic, some will be forged and we'll not validate either. the fbi began investigating in december. as for wikileaks the department of justice opened a criminal probe. assange could be charged under the espionage act, aiding the enemy or trafficking in stolen government property. megyn: any stung refer layings in these stolen documents?

>> reporter: not a one. most of this is mundane stuff. no major national security risks here are exposed that i can tell. there is one email that appears to describe a monthly payment made to a source in the middle east, no big deal. i can't even authenticate it. assange says they are making investment using secret intel. i have got news for him. that's not illegal or nefarious. it's disturbing they can hack into a computer system that private intel company like this does do business with the government, but no big security risks. megyn: the deadly violence escalating in afghanistan after the burning of korans at a u.s. air base. according to some it was done to

prevent the spreading of jihadist messages that had been scribbled inside. moment ago white house weighed in on this growing controversy over american soldiers being killed in some cases by the same afghans we are there to defend and train. his response was two of our top limit analysts are next on how this is being handled. another black mark for the cruise industry after passengers are robbed at gunpoint. rick santorum taking issue with jfk's belief that the separation of church and state should be absolute. saying that that speech made him want to throw up. so, what place does religion have in the public square and who's right? santorum or j.f.k. we'll debate. >> i believe in annika that is officially neither catholic, protestant nor jewish, where no

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megyn: a new response from the president. a homicide car bomber targeting american troops earlier today triggering a bomb at nato base, killing 9 people. just the latest in a string of attacks since u.s. military burned korans seeds at bagram air base because of fears inmates were using them to pass information, they were writing messages to one another inside the books. the white house speaking about the growing violence. including the deaths of could

americans over the weekend. >> in a phone call with general allen the president expressed his con dole ebbs to the general -- his condolences to the general and thanked him for his efforts in protecting and making secure american personnel both military and civilian in afghanistan. megyn: joining me general tom mcinerney. and ralph peters. fox news strategic analyst. ralph spent much of his career working as a military intelligence officer. i want to start with you, ramp ramp -- with you, ralph. you are calling this the worst crisis we have faced in afghanistan. >> i watched the soviets go into

afghanistan. in their decade in afghanistan, the soviets actually made more progress than we have. and what we saw in this week of crazy keadly demonstrations -- deadly demonstrations was the realization of how little effect we have had, how little our sacrifices have changed afghan society. how we are not wanted. they are not going to become good americans it's a broken, primitive, savage society and not worth another drop of american blood. megyn: general, you look at this, and americans ask with all we have done over there, then some of our troops burn the holy books, but there is no appreciation for everything else we have done, we are judge bid this single incident? >> i have to agree with virtually everything ralph said.

the fact is, my concern when the president apologized so quickly, it gives the opinion to the afghans in the streets that the u.s. did this on purpose, that's why the president of the united states apologized. i'm like you and i agree with ralph. after 10 years would you have thought we were further along. but one of the problems in the 10 years our strategy, that's a failed strategy. thinking we can win hearts and mind against this culture, against this group of people at this time. so i think we have gone a bridge too far in what or goals in winning hearts and mind are. we don't have a good what we call an operations command that lays out the plan that we want to use to counter. in other words, the old psy-ops

campaign. i would have had the ambassador, ryan crocker who is superb, i would have had him apologize along with general allen and maybe not even apologize, but just explain the conditions. there are certain instances where you can burn a koran when it's been defiled. and these korans were defiled. i think getting those two people plus president karzai to get involved with it rather than bringing it back to washington and the silliness of having something in the secretary of defense's office. megyn: that wouldn't have don't. we have our own president apologizing and it's not doing anything some calm the violence. >> that showed weakness when the president did it. i think it exacerbated the problem by him doing it because it showed they were doing it deliberately. that's my interpretation on it. and it may not have doibt.

the way this was laid out. it happened so quickly. it may have been contrived in some instances because they reacted very quickly. megyn: you say it's a woefully primitive culture that we can't predict based on our own behavior how they will react to something like an apology. >> i take it you are talking about the woefully primitive culture in the white house. the white house, the administadonnistras december tht to keep anything anywhere from boiling over until november. now in the primitive society of afghanistan, from the start we set unreasonable goals. we had to go to afghanistan to heart al qaeda and punish the taliban. the mistake was staying. bush was blamed for that sending enough troops to afghanistan. the problem was he kept too many there. in real life you have to have rational goals.

and turning afghanistan into a model of rule of law secular democracy was never in the card. we stepped into the middle of a civil war. our counter insurgency is woefully inadequate. young americans are dying and being maimed for the political advantage of this administration, for the political prejudices of some republicans and for the vanity of generals who cannot admit that they were wrong as they could not admit in vietnam they were failing. megyn: general mcinerney, there is a question about whether president obama is at committed as he needs to be. i need a quick answer, we are up against a hard break. >> we should not have announce sad withdrawal time frame. that showed weakness. that's why when he apologized for the burning of the korans. it shows weaknesses.

they have got to have a much better strategy. megyn: thank you both for being here. a group of carnival crews passengers robbed at gunpoint. @

megyn: a vacation nightmare for a group of passenger onboard a carnival cruise line. 22 people were robbed in mexico while traveling to porta vallarta. wants that one of the stops on the love boat, puerta vallarta? >> reporter: it's the mexican

riviera. when you are talk about being in the jungles of one of the most deadly countries on the planet. they were heading back on the ship from their jungle tour when they were surrounded by armed and masked bandits. they were told to get off the bus and hand over their cameras and passports and money and jewelry. >> he had a gun up here an brought it down here and pulled up his shirt to show the knife. everybody was very quite. he had a gun and a knife. we didn't know exactly if there were other people in there. in spanish our guide interpreted, throw everything on the ground, and the next things we heard is somebody said run. everybody started to run. >> reporter: carnival cruise

lines calls the incident unfortunate. they are trying to reimburse the passengers. princess cruise lines no longer goes to puerta vallarta because of the concerns of violence. 80% have pulled out of mazatlan and acapulco. after ciudad juarez they are two of the most dangerous cities in mexico. tourism in mexico on the cruise lines is already down 70-80%. megyn: federal agents have reportedly shown up outside of a home belong to a relative of the alleged gunman. the new details on what we are learning in three minutes. does there need to be an absolute separation of church and state under our constitution? up next see why rick santorum raised that question this weekend along with a firey

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megyn: federal agents are reportedly searching a home in connection with a deadly

shooting in ohio. the home reportedly belongs to a relative of the teen gunman. one of the five victims had just started dating the gunman's ex-girlfriend. eric shore has more. >> reporter: one student is dead, four others have been wounded by a fellow classmate. witnesses say the student even hunted down some of his victims in the school hallways before was chased by a coach and surrendered more than a mile away from the school. police have not so far publicly identified the murder suspect. fellow students describe him as a 17-year-old kid who they say was not popular but is described as an outcast, that description sadly a familiar one with dealing with these shootings. they say he posted warnings on twitter claiming quote people will be hurt tomorrow. parents say the school practices annual lockdowns, a sad legacy

of the columbine massacre that killed dozens of students in 1999. the young student to died of his wound this morning is danny pomatory. he tried to hide under the table while the gunman was shooting. his friend say he was a bright boy who had a bright future and they are torn by his loss. it's a crushingly sad and track i can day after another school shooting in our country. >> i believe in an america where the separation of church and state is absolute. where no catholic fella can tell the president should he be catholic how to act and no protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to

vote. megyn: that was downf. kennedy in his famous campaign speech in 1960 where he assured voters the vatican could not influence him if he was elected as the country's first catholic president. it's still an issue with rick santorum taking a different stand and president kennedy did. >> i don't believe in an america where the separation of church and state is absolute. the idea that the church can have to influence or involvement in the operation of the state is antithetical to the objectives and vision of our country. the first amendment says the free exercise of religion. that means bringing everybody, people of faith and no faith into the public square. megyn: joining me now, blair scott. he's the communications director for american atheists and tony

perkins, the president of the family research council. tony, i want to start with you. does senator santorum have it right about what president kennedy then candidate kennedy was trying to say? as i read kennedy's remarks it seems like he was talking more about how he wouldn't let the vatican influence his decision making as opposed to saying what rick santorum claims now that faith can play no part in public life or the life of a politician. >> it's interesting because if you look at the speech, clearly the focus initially is on the institutional separation of church and state. which we all support. we don't want the church involved in the state and the state involved in the church. but if you read into his speech. look at context. this was in 1960. the supreme court, there was one catholic on the supreme court. today there are six members. there was a lot of friction and open hostility between catholic

and protestant. he was speaking to protestant leaders saying the catholic church in rome is not going to be dictating what happens in the white house under my administration. he says i will make decisions not based on religious views or the teachings of the church but rather on my own conscience and what's best for the nation. that is concerning. the last 50 years there has been an exclusion from the public space of those based upon their religious convictions. what we have seen the last two weeks is the most stark reality of this what we call separation of church and state where the state crossed over that line into the business of the church water temperature this mandate. megyn: blair, as an atheist, do you have a problem with a candidate like rick santorum being a devout catholic talking about his religious beliefs and

saying that faith can have some role in the public square and so can other people -- all faiths, non-faiths. but that his faith can play a role in his presidency. >> no, not at all. people have the right to believe whatever they want and those beliefs are obviously going to affect them. when you talk about affecting the conscience. his religious upbringing is his conscience in a way. so when he's talking about using his conscience to make decisions, his religious beliefs affect that conscience he's tuition make those decisions. there is no wall of separation that says you have to leave your religious beliefs as soon as enter any government office. what it says is you cannot use the government to promote religion. are they going to use religious beliefs to make informed decisions? of course. megyn: are you worried about

that happening? are you worried about that happening a candidate like santorum who is so some about his religious affinity and beliefs? >> absolutely we are worried about it. we have no problem with santorum's religious beliefs in general. but if he says there is no difference between church and state that should scare everybody. the separation of church and state protects all of us. not just christians. megyn: tony, i know your group and many who support you believe the pendulum has swung to far in the other direction. now, you can't even mention god without people getting upset. >> i agree with blair. i know where the senator is coming down on this. he supports the institutional separation of church and state but not the separation of truth and morality from public space. i'm glad to hear blair is not pushing for that.

i remember a few years ago in a debate over judicious nominees that chuck schumer opposed a catholic nominee because of his deeply held personal beliefs which happened to be pro life. there are those who are advocating this idea that this separation is absolute and it has to do with moral truth and teaching and not just identification with a church. megyn: do you think president kennedy's words, he needed to convince people he wasn't going to be a zealot from the white house. do you think there is any role for a politician to publicly acknowledge god and the role god has played in his life and is that offensive to you as an atheist and do you feel it should be eliminated. >> a politician has every right to espouse his ridge beliefs.

that's freedom of religion. it's whether they use the government to endorse their religion. a politician on the pulpit talking about his faith and belief and the church he's going through is not endorsing or promoting through legislation. the first amendment is respect the establishment of religion. sometimes it's a gray area and decide which is which and that what's these public dee discussions are for. but the other part we forget about is no religious test for public office. there is no religious test for public offers and anybody in the united states, regardless of their religion or religious beliefs should be able to hold public office. megyn: tony are you sitting there agreeing with everything blair says? >> when someone comes up to a policy decision let's say on an issue of life as the church is

teaching, orthodox christianity teaches that lives sacred created in the image of god and the politician who happens to be a christian takes a policy position protecting that life, is that position disqualified because it comes from his understanding of the teachings of his religion? >> we expect his religion to affect his opinion on that issue. but when you make legislation base on that, at that point you have crossed the line. having that individual politician support or oppose abortion or pro life, pro-choice, is fine. we expect that. we expect people's religious beliefs to inform their decisions. but you cannot use that to create law to support religious beliefs. >> that's what the practice is about. that's what the process of making laws is about. we come with a world view and what i see -- i'm glad -- it doesn't sound like blair is

advocating this. but many say check your faith at the door. we don't want your christianity in the public square. that's a mistake. we are seeing the results of this this. just as this shooting in ohio this morning. we would be better we had more prayer in schools as opposed to guns. megyn: i have never seen a segment where we had an atheist and a man of faith and conservative family values on the other side and there was a lot of common ground. that was refreshing. all the best. we brought the breaking news about the fbi searching the home of the suspected gunman in this ohio school shooting. what what cause a -- what would cause a teenager to snap like that. we are getting clues if it is the boy others have reported it is. dr. ablow will have tips on how to prepare your own child for

this case scenario. >> we thought it was a drill. but then it started getting -- we heard over the announcements it was a serious deal. we were hunkered down in a room, locked the door. nobody knew anything. nobody knew anything until you talk to your son or daughter you don't flow what happened.

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stalk you, but inside you. willing and writh. feel smaller inside my might. die all of you. dr. keith ablow is a psychiatrist and member of the fed cal a-team. he has experienced handling school safety. dr. ablow. do you want to take a crack at that message? >> i believe that at this point one lesson here is that it's okay and probably appropriate whether it's through peer counseling of facebook profiles, or someone at the school receiving this information and highlighting these concerning messages and acting object them. maybe this is a fortunate thing that people tend to use social

networking to vent their most inner demons. we should be looking for that and ready to react to it without denying that the worst can happen. megyn: he posted this on his facebook page december 30. january 20 he post an update saying much ablienged to all those who quote like this, which wrote it myself in class one day. what does it tell you? can you read about this? he talks about secret fear, the dismal drear. he was better than the rest. all those he detests within their castle so vain, and selfish they couldn't care less about the peasants they mistreated. >> school is a limited social environment. but if you are bullied or a girl won't go on a date with you can seem like it's the end of your existence because you get such a

limited sphere of experience. what happens to you and your rank socially seems like the end of the earth if it's very low. screening for depression is okay in schools. those are simple tests to give. bringing back a full peer counseling program. someone should have act on that and brought this kid in and said, what's happening with you. megyn: i want to ask you another question. a lot of kids are ostracized and bullies and dumped in relationships and they don't do this. the stats are much more in favor of your kid is safe at school. but what's the difference? what the difference between a kid who goes through all that and is normal and a kid who does this? >> at minimum it is people who express that they are not coping. this young man did that. he said, look, this is what i'm feeling inside. i have had schools come to me with a young man who made a cemetery and puts the names of

kids on the tombstones. they said should he be in school? >> i said i don't feel comfortable charging you for this. no. we have to get over that hurdle and believe the worst can happen and act on it. megyn: i'll start with you now and carry you over to the break. but i want to ask you whether we can protect our kids. we can't put up magnetometers at every school. what should we be doing. >> the first line of defense is this monitoring. we have seen it before, children have posted information out there ahead of time. and telegraph what they are about ready to do? monitoring and intervention is key. there is an element about security around the school. now, in some high risk areas in inner cities they do magnetometers. but having somebody advisable at

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megyn: one of the victims was hiding underneath the cafeteria table because he knew he was about to be tar -- to be target and shot. he was dating the ex-girlfriend of the shooter. what do you tell your kids? >> what i told my family. tough an opportunity to get out of that situation where you don't have to pass the attacker, where you can become less of a target whether through a fire door or through a window you take that opportunity. if for some reason you are hold

up in a room where you don't have that opportunity, you hit the ground and remain very low. whether you are an adult or juvenile, for them to be at least told that these are the things to consider. take some quick action and get out of harm's way if you can. if not you have to take your chances and hunker down. megyn: some of these kids go through weapons training, should you have your kid assuming this won't be an expert marksman and maybe making a run for it is your best course? >> in any of these cases you have to assume the assailant is in himself in a moment of heightened sensitivity. but however web's not going to be thinking as if he's a marksman no matter how good a shot this person is. the more you can get out of harm's way, get out of the wait

of a lot of fire the better you are. megyn: we did research on this. the school shootings are very rare. in 2008-2009, two school shooting deaths it many the odds of once in 14,000 years each school faces if you do the odds. how do the families across the nation get through this wondering if, you know, it could happen? >> i think what you have just done is step one. it's extraordinarily rare. secondly, arm yourself with what you can do. you can be proactive. i think this is one message to take home for every student, every teacher. at those moments where something catches you amiss, a statement, a glance, or several, don't feel that you can't call a parent or a principal or someone else to elevate the level of the threat. megyn: do something. thank you both so much.

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