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ceo, apprentice star with us. >>er know chuck and like him a lot but i don't understand where he is coming from. we have so much red under our feet, we can take our own natural gas, we don't need saudi arabia or opec nations that are getting richer by the minute. we can do everything ourselves if we allow people to drill and very capable people to take it out. we have hundreds of years of supply. >> neil: you know, i might like chuck schumer but for a united states senator to be to the saudis to beg them to raise production and ignore the same production opportunities that you pointed out right here. >> i'm surprised to hear it. it's very disappointing. >> neil: if we don't do that and you have advised that saudis

don't give back what we do for them. they continue this posture of producing just enough. many have argued, saudis are close to maximum production. i don't know what is true. the issue seems to be that opec has our number. you long argued, we should remind we have theirs. what do you mean by that? >> in terms of having our number. i will tell you they are ramping all the way to the bank. the opec nations is incredible. there has never been wealth generated like them generating it. we made it possible for them to live to be there. to literally be just there. for us to accept what they are doing to us is hard to believe. actually, neil, it's hard to believe. over the last three or four years, that is where we have found out how much we really have. we didn't know what kind of wealth we have under ground.

we have tremendous especially in terms of natural gas. the natural gas, we are the saudi arabia plus ten or times ten of natural gas. i don't understand why we're not doing more to take it out. >> neil: big primary night in michigan, argument seems to be, just talked to mitt romney a few minutes ago, he has got to win michigan. he acknowledges but if he doesn't, do you think he is in trouble? >> he a good man. he understands what china is doing to this country better than anybody else in terms of running. he has been very strong. you talk about opec, he gets the opec situation and will do something about it. it can happen well for this country. i hope he wins. if he doesn't win, it would definitely not be a good thing, not for the congress or the republican party.

i think he is going to win. >> neil: do you think it increases the likelihood of a brokered convention? >> it would prolong the race. i don't know about a brokered convention. i think he is going to do fine. people are really liking him and starting to like him a lot. i have a lot of friends that really weren't sure and now they are liking him a lot. they are very smart people. i have gotten to know him very well over the last few months and i think he would beat president obama. >> neil: what about rick santorum, governor romney was critical of santorum campaign robo call efforts that remind democrats there, to remind them to vote against romney because he was against the auto bailouts nevertheless, romney was arguing that supporting an administration, obama and

senator weren't hand in hand in this, they were complicit on this? >> i think most importantly the most important aspect of the question is the reason the democrats would vote for santorum and try to embarrass romney is they know they can beat santorum and they don't feel confident about beating romney. >> neil: so if santorum were to be the republican nominee, donald trump wouldn't support him? >> i don't want to comment on it. it's too early to think about it. i think mitt romney is going to be a great candidate and ultimately win and be a great president. >> neil: what do you think of these personal struggles. wife has two cadillacs and going to daytona and nascar, that sort of thing. it hits people, smacks some people as being very out of touch.

what about you? >> could he have done without it? probably. is it built up by the press? probably that is also. when you are campaigning and you make literally hundreds of statements an hour, one little thing like two cadillacs. >> neil: you are absolutely right. >> could he have said something differently, probably. >> neil: imagine if you could run, you could make a reference to one of your planes or jets, game over. >> i guess i. could you know what, again, i become a fan of mitt. i think he is a good man. i like him personally. i wish people could see him on a more personal level because he's got what it takes. he really has what it takes. >> neil: would you be his treasury-secretary? >> i don't think they want me for that. i would do necessary for this country. we are being laughed at all over the world.

>> neil: would you be energy secretary? >> energy has never been my thing. i will tell you this. what is happening to us now would not be happening for very long. that i could tell you. >> neil: donald trump, always a pleasure. >> we are the saudi arabia of natural gas but they say the federal government is clamping down on that. he will be a special guest at 6:00 p.m. you don't get it? >> race for the votes today. is this number helping or hurting their cause.

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results are coming from michigan and arizona. we'll be talking to rand paul and minnesota democratic congressman, all at 8:00 p.m. on fox business. hope you can join us. there it is. the number you heard a great deal about over the many months, dow closing over 13,000. by five points we've not seen before president obama winning the white house. governor, what do you think of that, is this milestone? >> it's good to be with you all. i think it's something that the president and democrats will herald as a good omen. the unfortunate thing is you and i know that the dow itself doesn't describe what the employment situation, it doesn't describe jobs or the state of

the economy in the totality but it is a sign. there are other things, however, that are really, really on the horizon. that is the price of gasoline. unless we do something, when i say we i mean collectively, not to talk about it but to show that something can be done and to do something, people that are being hurt are not going to be affected to the see the dow rise -- what does that mean to them? we need to find answers. >> neil: in your state they have been ticking rising, highest in the nation. this is state that a lot of people were going barack obama's way. republican critics say a lot of this in the lap of president because he is not increasing production here and very stubborn to do so when keystone

is used as an example, is it his fault? >> no, it's not his fault. even though they say that, there is no shortage of gasoline, no shortage and oil. you and i know that. what is being refined in the gulf, even if it's coming from the co-stein from canada and going to the gulf for refineries it's not going to stay here, it's going to china where the demand is. >> neil: so would you slash the oil from going elsewhere? >> yes. >> neil: what about tapping the strategic petroleum reserve? >> if it's necessary. sure i would tap it. but there is no need to tap it at that point unless you say to those people who are going to benefit and profit by going in other places, unless there is a mechanism they need to know, us first. you got oil depression

allowances and many people have argued it for yeebs years. to the extent we check the price of oil, let's look at joblessness. surely the dow is up. you've got employment numbers pretty much static even though the unemployment is down. does it correspond with the employment numbers. are they rise together decrease in the numbers that are not filing. there is so much out there, i repeat the three things that are going to be connected this election. that is the economy, the economy and the economy. that is spelled jobs, the price of price of gasoline. >> neil: you are right about that. you talk about the economy, economy, economy. they are saying trend, trend, trend, and some of them think they have it in the bag. what do you think? >> i think that much of the

reason they feel that way, you and i would feel that way, too, if we were running against many of the people for the republican nomination. >> neil: eventually it will be on that nominee. >> precisely. if that nominee is mitt romney, i say romney will be the nominee i think democrats would love to see rick santorum be the nominee. they would love it. >> neil: so i think with this robo calling, santorum folks indirectly working with them trying to deliver michigan to santorum. >> i wouldn't accuse them. i would do nothing to discourage them. [ laughter ] >> neil: very well put. >> i would say, right on, boys,

right on. you and i, you can't say it you have to be fair and unbiased and not expressing an opinion. there is no bay the american people would ever elect rick santorum. under no circumstances. >> neil: you don't know that. they used to saim say the same about you. >> they say hell would freeze over. [ laughter ] >> neil: you're right, they did say that. >> the difference is, i stand for something. i didn't run on labels. i didn't run on religion. i didn't run on being the most moderate or most liberal. >> neil: you ticked everybody off. >> yes. i ran on issues. i think what this campaign will come down to the issues and dow is good thing for the democrats. >> neil: very good man, governor. for both parties. good source of inspiration.

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the most important voters in america. the independents, swing voters the people that go back and forth from election to election. you take a look at all the polling, mitt romney's numbers with independents are falling and measurably falling, 8, 9, 10 points, that is because the candidates are going at each other. instead of knowing where they stand, independents are learning what this is wrong with them. those republicans are going to have the challenge no matter who the nominee is. >> neil: the opponents, the media pounces the cadillac remarks? >> first off you have to take responsibility for what you say. secondly, you have to have a plan that demonstrates to them, you get what is happening out there. the last week, you can hear it in my voice. i've been in ohio, michigan, wisconsin, i'm heading down florida. all across these key states, voters want to know that not

only you mean what you say but you understand the concerns and fears and anxiety with rising gas prices, with the economy still very weak. they want to know that you get it. i'm not convinced these candidates are communicating that right now. >> neil: we get fixated in the moment. '92 race we competing, paul ripping bill clinton and it got pretty nasty. clinton emerged. he did okay. got elected and re-elected. i guess when races do get nasty. any time you have two more candidates in the room but they settle it and move on. >> i look at obama/clinton, while the two of them really went at it. there was a different approach to the two of them. they would repeatedly talk about how much they respected each other.

that is not happening this time. when you go to punch your opponent, this is not boxing, this is usc and these guys are being slammed to the mat. >> neil: thanks, frank. >> arizona turnout, which candidate will be singing a happy tune tonight? we'll watch it, after this. ok, guys-- what's next ?

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to john roberts in phoenix. >>. >> reporter: good afternoon, to you, neil. lighter than expected turnout and people have been dribbling in and county recorders say the return of the early ballots, popular in arizona has been less than expected. 300,000 have been returned and they thought greater than that. who does it it help and who does it hurt? it could potentially hurt mitt romney. he's seen as the favorite here and win arizona in a walk that could cause a lot of people stay home or not return the ballots, but would take a lot of people based on the numbers to not vote for mitt romney to lose this thing. think about the issues here in arizona, what comes to mind, immigration, and arizona is always in the news for immigration going to the supreme court to argue for their law and april 25th. i talked with arizona governor jan brewer who endorsed mitt romney, earlier today she told me, neil, it goes far beyond immigration when it comes to the issues on voter's minds. >> it's an important issue to arizona and an important issue to america.

i think that jobs and economy are the number one issue here in arizona and across the country. >> you know, even more interesting than the race we're seeing today, neil, what could happen in november, 600,000 hispanics have moved to the state in the last decade. an active voter registration drive put out by democrats and hoping they might be able to put this state in play in november. >> we'll watch closely, thank you very much, john roberts. if you just joined us, finally did it, dow closed above 13,000, does the the president deserve any credit for that? >> i can't think of a single piece of legislation that he authored that made it easier for our economy to come back. >> okay, put mitt romney down as a no, the president doesn't have anything to do with it. more coming up on fox business tonight and then starting at 8 p.m. eastern time, our nonstop coverage of the michigan and arizona primaries, from the votes to the impact on your money, with market reaction from around the world, as these votes are coming in. and you know, only fbn has it. only fbn. only