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happen a fimes aear, s in the bs-eyeworse some of the arerelready hit by twisters just 48 hoursgo. the danger zonrom ohio, indiana and illinois down to mississippi, alabama and georgia. now tpaoeusing the possibilityas
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and violent twisters. in parts of kentucky and alabama they were not taking any chances. schools there closed early. we have team coverage for you now. we'll go to janice dean in a moment who predicted this days ago. first to craig boswell who is under a tornado warning in the town of harrisburg, illinois where debris is all over the ground there from three days ago. >> reporter: good evening, megyn. under that tornado warning with the debris field and awful the wind kick up, just before you came to us moments ago a portion of the structure, the strip mall where we've been for the past day and a half blew away from parts of the steal beam structure here. that's reason why they want to keep people away from the area they are keeping volunteers out of the area another indication of why they are doing that. this is what they are trying to keep people away from, the nails sticking up from all of the wood, all of the debris from buildings from homes from the hundred-plus homes destroyed here. sheriff's deputies have been
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going around for the last hour as this tornado watch has turned into warnings telling people we still have some people volunteering over here at the old national bank trying to clear things out, they've been going through trying to tell them to take shelter, take this seriously. they are indeed taking this seriously. one of the issues, without the electric, with the power problems would b problems, one of the tornado sirens not working. the deputies have to go along and let people know what is going on, tell them we are under a warning. one of the storms is about ten to 12 miles to the north of us. i talked to a family who brought their son out here to volunteer to help, wanted to help some of the people, just bringing them simple things like hand sanitizer. they asked us what do we do if a tornado is nearby. we told them our plan. there is a culvert over here about 30 to 40 yards to where we are broadcasting. that is the plan for us and a lot of people in this area to get down, into underneath that
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concrete structure. even if it's still strong winds much of the debris will be picked up, moved on and blown this way. that is the area in which we are going to go if something were to happen. once they get through this the frien cleanup continues. better weather tomorrow, not only just to cleanup, two of the five funerals scheduled for this weekend are tomorrow afternoon, three more on sunday for the six victims here of this tornado that came through now just about two days ago. megyn: this is incredible to see you out there as we know there is a warning for a tornado, meaning one has been spotted on the ground or on radar there within the last few minutes. can you show us again where are you going if the tor tornadoes hits? stand by, stand by, lost the satellite feed. hold on, we got him back. >> reporter: we'll probably blow in and out with the satellite feed. over that grass into this ditch into that culvert where it's a
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concrete structure underneath the ground there. we'll be able to h u.n. ker down in there and ride this out if there ace need for that. the sheriff's deputies say you need to really pay attention to that. people are definitely paying attention. a lot of the people that were here working have gone. they are indeed paying attention to all of the watches and warnings as they should to hopefully get through this day, get through tonight where they can really begin this cleanup in earnest tomorrow. megyn: keep us posted. stay safe, don't are a hero, thank you very much. you saw the pictures, ladies and gentlemen, of the boards with the nails exposed. that is sadly the least of the danger, because you're talking about the twisters can pick up whole cars and trucks, that's how a lot of people die in these storms. we'll keep checking back in with greg and see what is happening on -pt ground. janic on the ground. janice dean predicted this was going to happen. she's been tracking this all week. what is the latest.
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>> reporter: i hope the next time we go to craig that he is actually in that secure area that tornado warning is just northwest of harrisburg, but i want to show you, megyn as we go to the radar tornado watches right now in effect for parts of alabama and towards tennessee, and you can see a little blips on the radar here, some of the strong storms actually could be taking out some of the radar sites. as we zoom in i want to show you where we have our latest tornado warnings just moving in towards parts of kentucky, west of bristol, but as we move up towards that area that we just saw craig boswell i want to point your attention here to cape gerardo, right there. there is a strong supercell that is pushing northeast ward, there it is. you can see it there. that is called a hook echo. that's what we look at as meteorologists on doppler radar. that is the precipitation actually wrapping around the center of rotation. you can actually see that hook forming in the last few frames here just moving into buchanan.
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even though craig is okay we are really worried about that particular storm moving northeast ward towards his region, cape gerardo, pleasant grove, all of these areas need to be on alert for very large supercells that are right now containing tornadoes. as you mentioned, megyn, very rare that we see this high-risk area only a couple of times of year, and that means the storm prediction center really thinks we are going to see long-lasting potentially destructive tornadoes, people need to be taking these warnings very seriously. i hope craig is right now. back to you. megyn: thank you. we'll be back to you often throughout the next two hours. you saw the situation that craig is dealing w. h dealing with. you saw the nails coming out that of board, the construction. as i mentioned these hurricanes, some of these ef4-type hurricanes can pick up, you know, suv's. you're talking about big trucks. train cars. and so we are going to be checking in with craig as well
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as the entire region there. we've got it covered for you from top to bottom and we'll be following that, including just a little bit later we're going to have our own greg jarrett join us. he managed to survive a direct hit from a tornado that killed 20 people more than a decade ago. we will show you the rest of that video when gregg joins us live and we'll share the story of what it is like to be caught dead center in the middle of a twister. speaking of cars being picked up that video will show it to you a little bit later, you can see a car being picked up by the twister, and hurling toward the under pass where the camera found itself and so did our own
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gregg jarrett. we'll have him here in a bit. plenty of other news going on. we awaiting a white house briefing after president obama uses some of the strongest language yet toward iran n. a brand-new interview just 72 hours ahead of his meeting with israel's prime minister. the president making a point of saying, he is not bluffing about the possibility of using military force to stop the iranian regime from building a nuclear weapon. what exactly is he trying to say? senior white house foreign affairs correspondent wendell goler has more live at the white house. >> reporter: officials here won't confirm it but israeli press reports indicate prime minister benjamin netanyahu is coming here to get the president to spell out the red lines iran won't be allowed to cross without the u.s. joining israel in an attack to takeout iran's nuclear program. several ever the president's most senior advisers spent time in israel last month trying to convince officials there that it
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is not that time yet but the israelis are worried about iran entering a zone of invulnerability beyond which military action wouldn't end their nuclear program or would only briefly dismantle it. u.s. and israeli press aids have been looking at what seems to be a prickley relationship between the president and the prime minister warning the trust deficit may make it difficult to convince the israeli leader. mr. obama says we are reading tension into natural differences between his own center left administration and the center right government in israel. in an interview the president reaffirmed america's commitment to israel's security. he took on republican claims that he is too tough on israel on too soft on iran e. said, quote i think that the israeli government recognizes that as president of the united states i don't bluff, suggesting the military option is real, and, quote, i think both the iranian than and israeli governments recognize that when the united
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states says it is unacceptable for iran to have a nuclear weapon we mean what we say. the if the says an attack now would allow iran to portray itself as a victim after years spent convincing the world that it is the problem. during the two-minute warning for jay carney's briefing over me. the president says the world cannot live with a nuclear armed iran. that is a recipe for nuclear war in the middle east or nuclear materials getting into hands of terrorists. megyn: coming up new information about who the man is from the united nations who made an interesting demand yesterday. we showed it to you. and what is behind his demand that u.s. troops be punished in the wake of those qura quran pwurpbgs. we'l burn inks. janice dean is telling us to
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megyn: a new increase in the price at the pump. today's national average $3.74 for a gallon of regular gasoline. that is according to aaa and it is up one cent from yesterday. we've been taking a look at cincinnati, ohio, just as one means of keeping track of how the gas prices are. they are riding that national average on the dot, a week ago the average in cincinnati was
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$3.64 a gallon, up ten cents in a week. new details today on the accidental burning of qurans in afghanistan. u.s. military investigators reportedly have concluded that five soldiers were involved, in again what was an accidental burning. the holy books had been removed from a library because detainees in afghanistan had written extremists messages in them and then they were accidentally disposed of with the trash and burned, which is not all right under islamic religion. the accidental pwurpbgs sparked riotburnings sparked riots and led to six u.s. troops and 30 in afghanistan. yesterday we introduced you to this man are, the united nation's special representative in afghanistan. he works directly for ban ki-moon. he says those involved, including the americans need to be punished. >> my only indeed request is
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that after the first step, very important step, profound apology, there must be the second step, drawing the consequences after the investigation will be completed, and indeed appropriate disciplinary action. after such disciplinary action the international military forces will be able to say, yes, we are sincere. megyn: is the united nations picking sides? why are they calling for punishments before the verdict is in? joining us now on the phone, john bolton, former u.s. ambassador to the united nations and a fox news contributor. ambassador, rather than just be quiet about this matter, which has led to the death of 30 people already in afghanistan, the protest in response to it i should say, the ban ki-moon's special representative in afghanistan felt the need to pour fuel on this fire. what should he have done and why
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is he doing that. >> he shouldn't have said anything at all. but i think his reaction stems directly from the repeated apologies by the president, the secretary of state, and other senior american officials. whatever happened here, and i must say, the facts are still not entirely clear, these qurans were disposed of because we felt they were desecrated, and indeed local afghan officials had confirmed that. now maybe we didn't do it exactly the right way, but certainly our service members were not trying to desecrate the quran, they were trying to do what they thought was the right thing. nonetheless when you apologize over and over again it acts as an admission of guilt. it looks like we have something to hide. so this u.n. bureaucrat in typical fashion concludes that if this president on down are already saying we made a mistake, punishment should flow from it. i think it's very unfortunate, but i want to be clear about one thing, this is not something out of character for the united
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nations. this is business as usual at the united nations. this is par for the course. think of whatever cliche you want, this is how they react to america, and particularly to american weakness. megyn: he comes out of this question-and-answer session in afghanistan and is asked, what led to this burning of the quran and i quote, is it the lack of discipline among the military forces? he answers before there's been an investigation, yes, he answers, yes, it's the lack of discipline among the military. and yes, he tells this to the afghanis. is it necessary to raise the voice in a peaceful way, but to raise the voice, because these things are not acceptable, and then ambassador he goes on and says we at the u.n. fully understand and share the feelings of the people of afghanistan, that they expressed after this very grave mistake. we saw people out there chanting death to america, death to america with the signs and you've got this guy saying, i'll tell you what caused it, it was
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a lack of discipline by the military and i'll tell you that we stand with the people of afghanistan, some of whom are now murdering us troops. what should be done here? >> again, we have to understand, this is absolutely typical of the view of most u.n. bureaucrats, and frankly most representatives of foreign governments in european elsewhere to the u.n. of course it's america's fault, of course it's america's fault. the president has apologized. how can you americans deny it? and that is an attitude we should simply reject. and i think people should understand, this is the way it always is at the u.n., don't be surprised by it. megyn: do we have any power to appeal to the u.n. to say, we've had about enough of yan, he is not the one we want to be dealing with as the assistant to moon were since he's clearly rejudged the actions of our troops and is arguably
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endangering their lives with his comments. >> i would call for his removal. if i couldn't do anything else i'd recommend that the u.s. withhold his contribution to his salary and his expenses and the functioning of his office until ae poll skwraoeusess to us. megyn apologizes to us. megyn: clerics in afghanistan have called for punishment against the u.s. troops involved in these burnings. we've 0 concluded in our investigation there were five soldiers involved. all along our military has been saying it was an accident. no american intentionally defaced the quran. they had been desecrated and then as an accident we burned them to get rid of them. but in any event you've got the five clerics calling for punishment. what does that mean, ambassador and where do you see it going. >> i think it just keeps getting worse. again they are able to say these things because our secretary of state, among others, has said, we understand how people feel about this behavior which is totally unacceptable.
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in fact, the clerics have said that burning the quran, like burning the american flag when it's been desecrated is an acceptable means of disposal. apparently the mistake here was that it was burned with other things and should have been burned separately. but that is not an intentional act to humiliate muslims, or cast doubt on the holiness of the book. it was an accident. and if we had said that and mid that casein stead of looking and acting defensive we might have had a better chance to put this in a box. but now these afghan clerics can say even the u.n. thinks they should be punished. megyn: there was an attack on u.s. premises, he says i want to ask how that happened. we weren't the ones who desecrated the quran it wasn't us. >> it was america's fault. of course it was. it usually is. >> reporter: ambassador, thank you. >> thank you. megyn: fox news alert want to get right to mike tobin who is hearing tornado sirens. where is mike?
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>> reporter: we are in harrisburg right now. i can be quiet for a second so you can hear them. [siren blaring ] >> reporter: those are the tornado warning sirens blaring right now. the good news about that we were told earlier in the day. i can show you the siren that is wailing right now. we were told that was knocked out by the last tornado. i'm hearing it at the moment, it's working. we do see people outside, we still see cars driving around. people are very concerned about this for all of the obvious reasons. you've got tarps on a lot of roofs, if this really does kick in, if we see any kind of heavy winds develop the tarps on the roof won't last very long. there is also already a lot of debris laying around here. everywhere you look, in fact you can see the debris laying around. directly behind us here, this is the strip mall that took that direct hit from the ef4 tornado. there is a ton of debris that can go flying around here. now just as the sirens have really been wailing for a little
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while we start to see that beam have gone inside. my crew and i have our eye on this ditch here, the storm ditch and the drain out there. if it gets really bad we've got somewhere to go. if it gets really bad the dish on the truck won't last very long so we won't be able to stay on the air. that is the situation out here. we know that one tornado was spotted about 19 miles north of here. as i'm speaking i can hear that the tornado warning siren has just gone off. so the immediate danger i think for this area they think came and went in a big hurry. we do know that a tornado was spotted about 19 miles north of here. we do anticipate that we'll get some more bad weather, probably big winds, with hail, the problem with the big wind of course is that there is so much debris already laying around here. megyn: what are the criteria for the sirens going on and off? >> reporter: usually that criteria would be that someone has spotted a funnel cloud some where. they know it's developed and there is an immediate threat and there isn't that much time to get shelter or close to
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shelter. megyn: how close would it be? you talk about one spotted 19 miles away and we heard the siren going on during the live hit and then go off, i mean, does that siren cover a 19-mile radius? and there they go again. >> reporter: it's going off again right now. yeah. i think it wouldn't cover a 19-mile radius. you've got me there. it's got to be subjective to a lot of what the local authorities will do. they are paying close attention to all these weather systems that are developing around this area. we are seeing cells develop that are tornadic, could develop as storms. you can see some of the ominous clouds as the camera is panning around. they are telling the locals to stay close in touch with their local television stations and local radios, because they don't anticipate that a lot of these storm sirens are going to keep working with the battering they took. the problem with it is power is out in a lot of locations, your tv, radio don't work. megyn: where are the people going? we've seen your evacuation plan or your shelter plan i should say. where are the citizens of harrisburg, illinois which has
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already been so hard hit supposed to go if the funnel cloud is approaching? >> reporter: well a lot of them have gone to storm shelters which oftentimes are set up at schools, other municipal-type buildings. about half of the homes in this area do have basements. people who have basements who have neighbors who don't have basements are advised to get to those places. there is no better place really in the event that the tornado is come than a place with a basement because you can get down low. the worst of it goes down over the top of you. megyn: we will be back to you momentarily. stay safe. i want to get to janice dean right now on what she is seeing on the radar. >> reporter: some of the supercells that were developing, let's take a look at weather 8. i'll zoom in where we can see the supercells actually developing in front of a cold front, okay. so weather 8 guys. all right you can see harrisburg, that is where mike t tobin is and the sirens are going off. which is northwest of him you see that cell developing and moving to the northeast. look at buchanan, that one, that cell right there is huge, a
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supercell we could see a tornado within that, strong rotation and you can see that hook echo, that meteorologists look at on radar to determine whether or not there is a tornado approach the area. that is precipitation and clouds wrapping around the center of circulation, just south of buchanan. and, again, you can see harrisburg, if you just go north and west that is where mike tobin is, and that cluster of thunderstorms that is slowly creeping eastward and north wards. they are not out of the woods yet and it's a good thing that they are hearing the sirens, because they've got a lot of power out in that region, and i was afraid that perhaps that residents weren't going to hear the sirens going off and i hate to see cars on the road, megyn, i hate to see people out at all and i need mike tobin to take shelter he immediately meg as we hear the sirens it's an ominous sound that seems to suggest danger is approaching. can i ask you as a meteorologist you look at a sky like we're
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seeing in harrisburg, illinois, does that tell the story to you in addition to the radar or does that just look like another thunderstorm to you. >> reporter: you can certainly see a wall cloud developing. when we look at tornadoes usually sometimes you can see those funnels kind of dropping from those wall clouds. so when you see the dark, ominous clouds in the sky, you know, you're a little bit apprehensive. i took very carefully. i don't see anything dropping from the sky there, but that is certainly a wall cloud that is forming just above -- i'm just kind of trying to zoom in on that. because it looks like in some cases you might be seeing a little -- a funnel kind of dropping out. megyn: i see what you mean. >> reporter: that's why they are hearing the sirens, megyn, they want to make sure people are on alert as best as they can and taking shelter immediate me. you heard mike tobin if p you have a basement you want to be in the basement. you want to be in the center portion of your home if you don't have a basement, a clothes, even a bathtub in a bathtub. small children, if you have a car seat. its terrible we have to remind people.
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they really need to know what they will be doing if and when the sirens are going off. unfortunately this will be a wide-spread event. not only illinois, and ohio, and kentucky, and tennessee, but we've heard damage reports in alabama, damage to schools, damage to properties, so this is going to be an ongoing event and one that is going to be long lasting. and i hear mike tobin is still out there, which scarc scares me because i think he needs to be in that safe secure shelter. megyn: it's nearby. it's within running distance from the look of his live shot. if we can go back to the split screen you can see the cloud on the one hand, the sky on the one hand on screen left and on screen right up on the top right of your screen is harrisburg, which we're actually seeing the pictures of on screen left and the red and the pink and the yellow. but you can see that red and the pink and the yellow is not limit towed harrisburg, illinois. that is the situation that they are dealing with in the midwest right now and why we have mike on scene and janice watching this nonstop as the sirens fire
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megyn: the news is break in harris burke, illinois. mike, what just happened? >> reporter: the sirens did stop wailing. move through here. the satellite dish on the truck is having a tough time with this wind. about it seems to have calmed down for a second or so. we saw the deb chief go out in a blaze because we have reports that a house collapsed due to the force of this storm. we have information funnel clouds have been spotted 20 minutes out of here. we are pushing it right now. this is probably last time you will see us on air for a little bit. the barometer has been going crazy the last hour or so.
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i would expect to be plummeting. by it's going up and down. i can't figure out what's going on. beyond that, i do see a lot of people still out on the streets. particularly in their cars. we have seen so many times people in their cars are so vulnerable as they are driving around. they need to heed the warnings and get to some kind of shelter. there is information again, one tornado was spotted 19 miles in that direction. we have more information off in that direction about 20 minutes there is another cell producing tornadic-type storms. megyn: any thoughts on mike's question about the barometer? and can you give us a feel for how quickly these tornadoes move? >> reporter: they are moving very quickly, 40, 50, 60 miles per hour. you can see the radar. you can see things are starting to fade out a little bit on the radar. but look to the south and west
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of where harrisburg is. see that line of developing thunderstorms? those could contain rotation as well, could contain tornadoes. even though the science remembers -- even though the sirens have dimmed, in the next couple minutes we could see them go off again. that's why law enforcement i think has told mike tobin to please get out of the area. if he's inside a tornado as the tornado moves in towards the area, you will see a pressure drop. i know he's a geek with it comes to these kinds of things. but i would prefer he's in a shelter than paying attention to the pressure drop as to whether a storm is coming. i would say within the next several minutes that storm moving through the cape girardeau area will continue to
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head northeast ward. i hope people are listening to their local weather authorities as well. megyn: you know our own gregg jarrett. he has found tim self in the middle of one of these tornadoes. you want to talk about how quickly your car can move versus the storm, talk to gregg jarrett. let me take back to april 26, 1991. several tornadoes touched down in the plains. gregg jarrett was out on a story in kansas. necessity noticed a tornado in the distance it started to bear down on them literally chasing them in their car down a highway, with the camera rolling they captured the very moment when that tornado took direct aim at them. watch this. >> let's go. let's go, let's go. >> reporter: we thought there would be plenty of time to videotape it.
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but within seconds it was looming larger headed right towards us. jumping back into our car we tried to get away from it. >> shoot it! attempting to outrun it to the only structure within miles. a highway overpass. >> keep going, man, keep going. yeah, yeah, yeah! lots faster! lots faster, gregg, it's catching us. you have got to go, buddy. report report twister was gang ounce and we made it there just moments before it struck. >> get up under the girders. underneath the girders.
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hang on to the girders. >> you are okay, you are okay. >> it sounds like a freight train. it passed right on top of us. people were very upset. people underneath the girders of this overpass. they are still hanging on, hang on for their lives it was a tremendous rush. flying debris everywhere. some people look like they are all right, but they have scratches and bruises. here comes another one.
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hang on! i got you! you are all right. megyn: unbelievable. our own gregg jarrett is here to talk about that as we watch the situation in harris burg and elsewhere. i found yourself right smack dab in the middle of it. your photographer was saying go faster, go faster. >> reporter: that's as fast as i could go paper was gang ounce. that's how quickly they can move in your direction. megyn: what made you think to go under the overpass. >> reporter: there was no other choice. i saw on the horizon this bridge. fortunately it was brand-new. steel girders embedded in concrete. people have always criticized this for the last 20 years for doing that. and people should not seek
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refuge under a bridge, stay in a shelter. get in a ditch, but we had no choice. megyn: we see a van get picked up and you will see it if you watch once they get under the underpass. that's a minivan that's been picked up. that's why janice dean is so worried about the cars on the road. >> reporter: the two guys were actually thrown from that car. the wreckage and majored bodies strewn everywhere. they were thrown from the vehicle, badly injured in the hospital for a long time. 24 people died that day, hundreds were injured. megyn: is it just a coincidence another family was there doing the same thing? >> reporter: other people on the other side. you heard me yelling get up under the girders. we tucked ourselves under these steel girders and took protection and that saved our lives. megyn: what are people saying
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you should have done? you should have thrown yourself in a ditch? >> reporter: there was no ditch it was flat and nowhere to hide. people criticize this because they are worried people will leave the safety of a shelter and look for a bridge which they should not do. but we didn't have any choice. megyn: it sounded deafening. what was it like to be tonight. >> reporter: i felt like we were being sucked out. it was all i could do to hang onto the girders. our cameraman held out his arm can the camera. i hung on to him. we were covered in mud. megyn: you said "here comes another one," about it wasn't another one. >> reporter: it was a
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backdraft. megyn: it was great reporting. unbelievable. telling the photog to keep shooting. criticism or not, you made it through. great job, my friend. as he did the report on the air. guess who was anchoring. bill o'rely. >> reporter: bill o'reilly tossing to a guy named jon scott who interviewed us. megyn: weep hoping that -- we are hoping that history does not repeat itself. we'll go back to mike tobin as that live shot comes back up and more on the weather situation as we get it. we want to bring you other news. the president's reelection team is leveling new attacks on two private american citizens. the question today is are we seeing the return of a white house enemies' list if you
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several injuries in alabama. this new video just in from meridianville, alabama. look at damage there. a roof torn off. a church building damaged. power lines down. trace gallagher has more from the breaking news desk. >> reporter: we are getting pictures and word that a tornado touched down in huntsville, alabama. and this one very bad. we are being told a number of homes are damaged and destroyed, a number of people injured there. and as you said outside of huntsville, the slime stone correctional facility, that's a maximum security prison. apparently the roof has been torn off. we do not know the status right now of the 2,100 maximum security inmates at the prison. emergency crews are also out in huntsville, they are going neighborhood to neighborhood because they are trying to assess the damage and maybe help
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anybody who might be trapped inside their homes. children in northern alabama, of course this near the tennessee borderline, they are sending kids home from school because the tornado damage there is bad and the tornado risk is very high. as we get more pictures in from huntsville, alabama, we'll bring those to you. back in 1989. 40 tornadoes hit huntsville. it killed 30 people. this is a very big part of tornado alley in the south. megyn: it happened so quickly which is why our viewers need to take this seriously if they are in the affected areas. we are going to bring sow other news including this, the president's reelection team, his campaign manager. leveling two attacks on two private american citizens who happen to oppose him in his policies. are we seeing a return of the enemies list in the white house?
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we'll investigate after the break.
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megyn: we are awaiting a response from the president's reelection team in response to an angry letter sent to them by the koch brothers who have been targeted about it campaign for running a conservative activist group. they are suggesting this is reminiscent of a white house enemies' list. what's happened here is the president's reelection team and his campaign manager jim messina has taken aim at two private
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businessmen because they oppose the president and his policies and reelection effort and continue to call them out for suggesting they need to disclose all of their donors behind their political action committee. they say they have had enough of this. alan, do you agree with this tactic? >> i would say there should be open and transparency which there is not. you keep referring to the koch brothers as private citizens. i don't heart conservatives saying george soros is a private citizen, let's leave him alone. megyn: this is the president of the united states doing this. >> these people want a pronounced effect on public policy. they raise huge money. the issue with messina is the koch brothers are saying we are just a bunch of people raising grassroots money. megyn: why do they need to when the law doesn't require them to?
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>> it doesn't require them to, but the president's political action committee, they do reveal, and you will find out if you go to open secrets.org, you can find out hot donors are. so contrary to what the koch brothers representatives accusing the obama campaign of, the obama people with their political action committee are revealing who their donors are. megyn: should the koch brothers who are private citizens, do they need to disclose their donors even though the law doesn't require them to do so? >> first off something that was factually incorrect that alan just said. the obama administration is famously tight lipped and mum on the secret donors -- stop interrupting me. i got five word out. alan. the white house is notoriously
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tight hipped on priorities usa donors and alan knows it. they are tight lipped when it comes to the george soros backed center for american progress. so trying to blast the koch brothers for lack of disclosure. you are right, there ought to be transparency and everybody knows the obama administration is the least transparent we have seen in decades. >> i apologize for interrupting you, but priorities u.s.a. action is open. the list is on open secrets. you can find out hot donors are. megyn: let me jump in. we are a little off course. my question is, is this appropriate for the president of the united states through his reelection team to be going after two private citizens who oppose him? to be going after him in such a
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targeted public way. they are trying to fundraise off of him. and these guys are down there saying, this is disparagement. >> this is the way a campaign is run. you have got to separate what happens at the white house versus the campaign. megyn: the president tweeted out attacks on the koch brothers under his own twitter account. >> is that the president or his campaign. megyn: it has his name on it. >> i think we are making much too much of this. he has the right and his people have the right to defend themselves from attacks about it koch brothers. megyn: mike were does he have the right to defend himself? >> of course it's inappropriate for the president. the obama campaign is going to be bullied. we'll get a glimpse of how ugly this will be. this is a cakewalk.
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megyn: fox news weather alert. tornado sirens heard again in harrisburg, illinois and reports twisters touching down in alabama. i'm megyn kelly. our affiliates in alabama have been sending in this video for the last 10 minutes or so. this coming in from huntsville. crushed homes, overturned trees, downed power lines and we are getting reports of injuries and emergency crews out searching
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for people. we also saw residents running for shelter in harrisburg, illinois as the tornado warning sirens went off. that was the area hardest hit two days ago. an ef4 tornado game for six deaths there wednesday. janice dean has been tracking these storms. but first we want to get to mike tobin who has moved to a shelter. >> reporter: right now what we have got on the ground, we don't have the sirens wailing. but the warning is in effect. there was a big loud thunderclap that happened as soon as we started talking. i'm seeing a lot of lightning. hearing a good bit of thunder. the wind escalates between aggressive wind and calm. the rain is here coming down -- way this one is wind swept to get into the [inaudible] i still
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see people on the road driving around. there are still people who are not heeding the warnings. the restaurants are still open. we have the ominous part of the tornado where you hit the dead calm and the hair on your neck goes up. warning is in effect. i don't hear the sirens going at the moment. but i did see the deputy sheriff run out to get to these neighborhoods to make sure people get inside. megyn: how many people are at the shelter? >> reporter: the one i'm at, about 20 people hanging around. megyn: are they experienced tornado residents? >> reporter: the people who have been through it the last couple days here and lost their homes, they are at the schools and the other places that the city set up. where i'm standing noise an old radio station and the deputy
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sheriff picked this as a default position. in the event a tornado comes ripping through it should do pretty well. megyn: they just got through this. now here you situating again. at worst -- at best we are looking at a bad thunderstorm with lightning. let's hope it stays at just that. thank you, we'll be back to you as news warrants. we are talking about destroyed houses. people going to the hospital. a roof toirp of a maximum security prison in northern alabama. two days of storms now. 13 people dead over just this week alone, and now we are looking at more of that scary red and pink on the radar as you showed it to us. >> reporter: the warnings have been coming fast and furious. these are pictures we just got in from early this morning.
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heavy damage reported in parts after alabama. i'm so thankful mike tobin is in a shelter. i can stand up here and say, people, you need to take shelter, but if we don't have our own reporters listening to me it's time to reevaluate. i'm glad he's in the shelter. i think within the next 10 minutes mike tobin will hear those sirens go off again. we are dealing with the potential for significant damage across portions of the ohio and tennessee river valley. a couple of these watches are called particularly dangerous situations. that's the national weather service storms predictions center saying the ingredient are coming together for a large long-lasting tornado outbreak that could go through the overnight. these regions across tennessee, kentucky, just east of the knoxville area, then north of bristol. let's look at mount pleasant. they just issued a tornado
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warning for this area. there is harrisburg. this supercell that they just issued a tornado on very good radar returns here. it's looking really healthy. you can start to seat formation of a hook echo. they put a tornado warning on that cell, and look at this cell on robb. it looks like a shale core in the white here. really inference precipitation. it's one of the best super cells i have seen on radar so far. portions of illinois, indiana, we need people to be taking shelter in that region immediately. if i could just quickly go over the severe weather outlook across these regions in yellow, slight risk for severe weather. in the red, the moderate risk, then a high risk which is where the storm predictions center says the ingredients are ripe for tornadoes. supercells that could contain
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tornadoes. you can see they moved a little bit northward. this is new information if you live in cincinnati, ohio, knoxville, up toward louisville, kentucky. you need to be under the alert because flurt bull's-eye. as we have seen, tornadoes have been spotted man outside of this warning area so people need to be cautious in any region of the south. the ohio river valley and the tennessee river valley. megyn: in alabama, a maximum security prison had it roof torn off. that's about 10 miles from huntsville, alabama. 2,100 inmates are housed there. they say none of them have escaped. they say the prison is secure but part of the perimeter fence was knocked down. two large prison dormitories saw
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the roof damaged. they say this is a quote from the department of corrections spokesman, according to the aassociated press. he said quote it was reported you could see the sky through the roof on one of those prison dormitories. so we have maximum security inmates seeing the sky through the roof that hangs over their facilities. they are saying the prison is secure, just to update you. if you have pictures of the storm or find yourself in the midst of it you can email them to us at foxnews.com/u report. that's the letter "u," report. as always, stay safe. we'll get back to weather as the news warrants. but want to bring you this alert on a story that started with a congressional hearing on religious freedom and contra accept tifs and evolved into a controversy involving the president and radio host rush
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limbaugh. last week former house speaker nancy pelosi organized a hearing on the requirement that all employers cover birth control costs even when there are objections on religious ground. you remember the back and forth. then there was an accommodation offered and the catholic church said they are not quite there yet. nancy pelosi was upset that the republicans looking into this matter did not call female witnesses who could speak to the contraception end of it so she held her own hearing and that hearing included one woman, a georgetown student who argued that students sat georgetown law school were overwhelmed by having to pay for their own birth control. here is some of that. >> without insurance coverage contraception can cost a woman over $3,000 during law school
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for a lot of student like me on public interest scholarships. that's practically an entire summer's salary. 40% of the female students at georgetown law reported that they struggled financially as a result of this policy. megyn: that woman's name is sandra fluke. what she testified to and the manner caused a backlash. not just about the coverage for contraception or whether the testimony bespoke of an entitlement culture. conservative radio host rush limbaugh got on the act and in just the last hour the white house jumped in. chief white house correspondent ed henry joins us with an update. >> reporter: the president of the united states telephoned sandra fluke an hour or so ago to reach out to her and basically the president feels
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that rush limbaugh went overboard essentially is what jay carney was saying at the podium a moment ago it was in carney's word reprehensible for rush limbaugh to call sandra fluke a prostitute that poured gasoline on this fire. jay carney said the president's message was he wanted to congratulate sandra fluke for in carney's words, standing tall. >> the -- like a lot of people feel that the kinds of personal attacks that she -- that have been directed her way are inappropriate. the fact that our political discourse has become debased in many ways is bad enough. it is worse when it's direct at a private citizen. >> reporter: it's pretty clear from that readout of the call
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that the white house wants to keep this issue alive. just yesterday vice president joe biden acknowledged publicly that the initial contraception debate in his words got screwed up. you remember the white house taking a lot of heat from the catholic church in the early stages of this debate with it was about religious freedom. the white house has been able to shift this to a debate about women's health. an administration official is saying they believe the republicans are on the defensive on this issue and they are more than happy to keep it alive. megyn: we have more details coming in on these tornadoes hitting northern alabama among other places as a powerful storm system hits areas already hit by twisters earlier this week. we are keeping a close eye on this for you and we'll bring you the latest as we learn it. a 41-year-old teacher who left
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thousands of school children have been told to go home from school as a precaution in states like alabama, illinois, and elsewhere. as we watch an alarming weather situation unfold in an area already hard hit and therefore vulnerable to more damage. you saw the report at the beginning of the hour with the boards and the nails. these areas cannot afford the winds and twisters that have already come through. a max smum security prison in alabama having part of its roof torn off. they say it's still secure. as we get more tape and pictures in, we'll bring them to you. a starting report finds since 2007, afghan security forces have turned their guns on american and european partners 61 times, killing 70 and injuring over 100.
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12 nato soldiers have been murder by afghan troops alone. the attacks account for 20%. all deaths in 2012. coming up, general jack keane on the president's handling of the situation. the president says he's act on recommendations from folks on the ground in afghanistan. is that true? jack keane knows and we'll take a closer look at that. back now to one of our top stories. tough talk from president obama on iran. ahead of monday's meeting with the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, he does not bluff when it comes to warning that it's unacceptable for iran to have a nuclear weapon, eakd that the u.s. has israel's back as an ally in the middle east. president obama getting ready for a big speech sunday to america's largest pro israel lobbying group.
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what are the potential political risks to president obama as he tries to handle this issue? karl rove is the former senior advisor and deputy chief of staff to the george w. bush and he's a fox news contributor. this is a security situation but it's also a political situation for the white house. how has the president been handling it in your view. >> you need to step back. in the 2008 campaign he began to say and do things that gave the american jewish community concerns about his commitment to israel. talking to ahmadinejad without any precondition. the statement about israel and the 1967 borders. his treatment of benjamin netanyahu when they dised him and told everybody how disrespectful they had been.
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i think you see this reflected in the fact president obama raised less money this time around, despite being the president and able to attend fundraisers in air force one. polls indicate there is a weakness among his support among jewish voters which could cost him states like ohio and florida and michigan and hurt number other states. megyn: what do you think is going on in this white house. as the message today appears to be getting a bit more bell koas from our path. we don't bluff, iran when we say we have all options on the table, we mean it. but at the same time we have been send our join chiefs over to israel to say don't do it, do not bomb them. >> we have had an open debate
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that's been revealed through leaks to major american newspapers. inside the administration there are two big schools of thought. one school of thought, probably a minority it looks like among the policy players it is not in the u.s. interest to allow iran to get a weapon. if they get a nuclear what he point it's a direct threat to american security interests. a larger group appears to suggest perhaps they are sometime away from a weapon. we ought to use diplomatic means from getting a weapon and we ought to try to manage the system using diplomacy. that group pea pears to be somewhat large. you see this reflected, some parts of the intelligence community say we don't think they have intention to get a weapon. we are hearing about these arguments inside the administration. that won't be reassuring to israel. the iranians made it clear, they
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get a weapon, israel is at risk. megyn: there is no coincidence the president decided to speak to this pro-israel lobby sunday. they are going to meet on monday. they have a difficult history, these two men. and there is a question about whether there will be any meeting of the minds since we seem to be on different pages from israel with it comes to this issue. how does the president get out of this? do you see him being able to persuade netanyahu not to bomb iran? how big is the political consideration foe close to the next election? >> it shouldn't have any political consideration. this should not be made with an eye towards how can i affect jewish-american voters and donors. he shouldn't be doing that. but the policy will be difficult to get where he wants to go. assuming he wants to discourage the israelis from taking action against the iranians, foreign policy is a question of two
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things. it's a question first and foremost of the respective interests of the two parties. the interest of the united states and the interests of israel it's also the personal relationships so they can have a common understanding. president obama does not have a good relationship with netanyahu. megyn: we have seconds to a hard break. thank you for your insights. we have an update on that iranian pastor who is christian. , my hairline is receding but i'm getting a weave. getting a weave. there's an easier way to save. who wants some ronald tonight!? who wants some ronald tonight!? geico. fifteen minutes could save you 15% or more. 8% every 10 years.age 40, we can start losing muscle -- wow. wow. but you can help fight muscle loss with exercise and ensure muscle health. i've got revigor. what's revigor? it's the amino acid metabolite, hmb to help rebuild muscle and strength naturally lost over time.
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balance. trace gallagher live in our west coast newsroom with more. trace? >> reporter: the timing is key. the execution order has been issued which means he could be hanged at any time without warning which is a very common practice in iran. the house voted to condemn iran for state sponsored persecution of religious minorities. it calls on iran to exonerate and immediately release him. he was sentenced to deather to converting from islam to
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christianity when he was 19 years old. the court gave him a chance to save his life by renouncing christianity. he refused. he has been in prison for almost 2 1/2 years. the american center for justice has been working to gain his release. necessity issued a statement that the vote sends a powerful statement that human rights transcend religious freedom. a similar resolution is in the senate. but as the tension gets higher between israel, iran and the united states, his life becomes more and more in jeopardy. megyn: the threat is real, the danger immense. right now tornado warnings have been issued in parts of the midwest ravaged by deadly twisters that took place less than 48 hours ago. new word on extensive damage from the south coming up. the latest updates from our
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reporters on the scene and from the fox extreme weather center. a teacher leaves his wife and his children and moves in with an 18-year-old former student. we told but this yesterday. today we have new information on whether this man will soon face criminal charges. that's in today's "kelly's court." >> it's one of those things we didn't look for. it just kind of happened. there would be nothing to arrest me on. there was no relationship before she was 18. there is a lot of rue mores going on. eggland's best eggs. the best in nutrition... justot better. high in vitamins d, e, and b12. plus omega 3's. there's one important ingredient that hasn't changed: better taste. better taste. yum! [ female announcer ] eggland's best. the better egg.
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megyn: serious new concern for u.s. troops in afghanistan. senior clerics are demanding trial and punishment for the american troops who accidentally burned copies of the koran. copies that had been defaced by detainees in afghanistan passion messages to each other. there is word this will further inflame antiamerican sentiments. six american soldiers have been killed. the holy books snored an office after they were found to contain extremist messages. they were ultimately discard and accidentally burned. >> reporter: a military investigation found five u.s.
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soldiers were responsible for the burning of the core rans. that investigation also found it was completely accidental and a mistake. the u.s. soldiers weren't aware of what they were burning. they thought they were getting rid of old paperwork and materials. the u.s. military is not releasing the names of the soldiers. the soldiers have left afghanistan out of concern for their safety. the u.s. military isn't saying officially that they have left afghanistan, only saying their safety is their main concern. the clerics called on the u.s. military to put the soldiers on trial. this came after a meeting with president karzai. they say the acts of burning the koran was so devilish, an apology will not do. there have been many afghans calling for his. this cleric council has also
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said they want all u.s. prisons turned over to the afghans and they want night raids to end in afghanistan. this all feeds into this distrust and anger and frustration that both sides are feeling in afghanistan. over the next few weeks military commanders said they have to make a largest to try to restore the trust in the afghan a u.s. side here. but, megyn, there are so much anger here in afghanistan on the part of the afghan community and frustration and distrust, a part of the international military community, it seems very unlikely it's going to disappear in the next few weeks. megyn: the afghan community, they are not the only ones feeling anger. yesterday retired lieutenant colonel ralph peters was on our show and we asked him about the
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most recent violence against u.s. soldiers. take a listen to what he said. >> soldiers and marines are being killed and maimed every day. you know what thanks they get. engine allen tells them you have got to respect afghan culture? what culture is there to respect? it's bar bar i can, degenerate -- it's barbaric, and degenerate. they want you to respect people who don't want you here. megyn: jack keane has returned from afghanistan. we talked to you right after the apology was issued by president obama. you thought it was a good idea given how seriously they take that issue in afghanistan.
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what are your thoughts now? >> i think in terms of the apology i thought it was trying to strengthen car guy's hand who is a weak and her -- weak and mercurial leader. but since that time karzai is like a one-man wrecking ball because he has done nothing to educate the people that this was actually an accident. and there was no i will will or disrespect ind there is no ill will or disrespect intend. he is not in public places asking for calm and trying to explain the situation. and coming out of his office with these clerics is this outrageous message that wants to try these five soldiers and seek retribution. that is absolutely irresponsible
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given what took place here. and it just further incites the violence and encourages people into the streets as opposed to getting them off the streets and calming the situation. megyn: you have got karzai doing what you just said. you have got senior clerics calling for -- calling us evil and saying we need to be punished. you have got this u.n. afghan representative who is a representative of u.n. secretary-general ban ki-moon in afghanistan saying we need to be held accountable. he doesn't under why we did this. the rhetoric against our u.s. troops is at a fever pitch. and they are being killed. six of them are dead. 30 people total have been killed. and there is a real question about wet whether ralph peters is on something. he is giving voice to the
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disgust a lot of americans and a lot of our viewers are having over the afghan culture and what we are doing there. >> i don't agree with the colonel's statement though i respect him. i have spent a lot of time with the afghan people. just because of our values alone we respect customs of the afghan people. as a result of that we have formed solid relationships based on mutual respect. abc-bbc poll recently indicated 60% of the people favor our presence in afghanistan. and overwhelmingly consistently every year we have been there for 10 years, 8 5% disapproved of the taliban. this is being manipulated by our enemies and stakeholders working against our agenda. it has arowds a certain part of the population but it's a minority part of that population and i'm not convinced it's
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representative of the afghan people in general. megyn: president obama made some news talking about how he does listen to his generals on the ground. i want to let you hear what he said. >> that's a personal thing for our troops in terms of the burning of the koran. you did apologize. >> i think the reason that it was important is the same reason the commander on the ground, general allen apologized, to save lives. and to make sure our troops who are there right now are not placed in further danger. >> it's hard to tell. do you think it's improved? it. >> it calmed things down. we are not out of the woods yet. but my criteria in any decision i make getting recommendations from the folks who are on the ground is what's going to best protect our folks, and make sure they can accomplish their
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mission. and everything else, the politics and the second guessing of these various decisions i'm not worried about. what i'm worried about is making sure our men and women in uniform are in the best possible position to come home safely and carry out their mission. megyn: general keane, as someone who has been there, is that true in your experience? >> we made three major recommendations to president obama from the field generals since january 2009. and these are the most significant, and he disapproved all three. that's quite unprecedented because it involved two wars. the first came from mcchrystal and petraeus. this had to do with the size of the surge force that was going to support the decision the president made to execute what is commonly referred to as a counter insurgency strategy.
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that recommendation was a minimal force of -- force of 40,000. the president provided 35% less. that has protracted the war and run up the kansas use and contributed to an evaporation of support from the american people for if the war. the second recommendation in 2012, general petraeus made a recommendation on the size of the reduction of the surge force by 2012. he made a modest recommendation in terms of force sides reduction. the president's decision was to remove all of the surge forces or 33,000 by the end of 2012. and that is ongoing right now. and puts the mission in the east at risk and also increases the overall success in afghanistan. the third decision came from a recommendation made by general alston who is the commander --
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was the commander in iraq in 2012. his recommendation was 26,000 forces to stay as a residual force, not involved in combat operations, but to help preserve and strengthen democracy and train iraqi security forces. the decision was no forces remain. those are the three most significant recommendations made in the last two years an has disapproved all of them. megyn: is there frustration from those in the military at the highest levels in response to that? >> at the time of those recommendations there definitely was. the problem we have in iraq as you can see, the political turmoil has increased and so has the level of violence. the risk in afghanistan will we are success seeding in the south and it's a credit to our troops in terms of that.
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and it's a credit to the president providing surge force buzz not sufficient surge forces to do both operations in south and east at the same time. certainly there was frustration over that. megyn: it was an interesting headline that caught our attention. general keane, thanks for your expertise. coming up next. she is 18, he is 41. he once taughter in school. now they share a home and a bed. why isn't this guy facing criminal charges next. even ragu users chose prego. prego?! but i've been buying ragu for years. [ thinking ] i wonder whaother questionable choices i've made? [ club scene music ] [ sigh of relief ] [ male announcer ] choose taste. choo prego. the calcium they take because they don't take it with food. switch to citracal maximum plus d. it's the only calcium supplement that can be taken with or without food.
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megyn: fox news weather alert. 13 tornadoes have tornado watched down in three different states. 9 in alabama, 2 in tennessee and another in illinois. there must be one more. the tornadoes in alabama leaving
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30,000 people without power. janice dean says she is getting damage reports out of chattanooga, tennessee. we'll keep you updated. "kelly's court" is back in session. on the docket today, new questions over a student-teacher relationship shocking a local community and beyond. we told you about the 40-year-old teacher. he quit his job at a california school, left his wife and children and moved in with a high school senior half his age. now police are launching an investigation into whether there was an inappropriate relationship between these two before jordan powers turned 18. hooker insists he never did anything illegal with the student he once taught. >> there would be nothing arrest me on. there was no relationship before she was 18. there are a lot of rumors. be careful what you are choosing to believe. megyn: joining me now, kimberly
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guilfoyle cohost of "the five." and jonna spilbor. he maintains he never laid a hand on her before she turned 18. is there any evidence, not catching them red-handed. but is there evidence to suggest that's not true from which the police might be able to build a circumstantial case? >> absolutely. rarely will you have direct witness unless someone walks in on them. but they have something to work with and where there is smoke there is fire. there are 8,000 text messages between the two. supposedly this is a brand-new relationship he specifically waited until she was 18 on september 5 before having a consensual adult relationship. i don't bite for a minute. is it ethically and morally inappropriate, yes.
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if they are able to in those text messages or recover photographs or anything they can use, take this hard drive, launch this investigation and that the way they will be able to build a case for endangering the welfare after minor for any kind of a sexual act that could have occurred or child abuse in california. megyn: if he was smart enough not to start a physical relationship until she turned 18 is he off scot-free? >> criminally absolutely. where he's not off scot-free. if he didn't quit his job he would get fired because of the relationship. the teach her student relationship which is not -- the teacher-student relationship. legally if you are over 18, you can have sex, but ethically you are not allowed to. that's the only area where this guy is facing any sort of problem. megyn: she is 18 years old in 2012. 10 years earlier her father
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died. she was 8 years old when her father died. this guy steps in as a predator. takes advantage of this young girl. grooms her. pays attention to her. she has got a single mom now. and is like i say grooming her to become his sexual partner which she now admits she is. can that not be charged criminally if they didn't actually have sex before age 18? >> unless they can prove endangering the welfare of a minor, there have been cases where you can't get them on a physical act, but perhaps they give the minor alcohol, plying them with liquor or some sort of substance to pull them into the relationship. megyn: i think you can. child endangerment says you have to willfully inflict suffering on the child. how do we profit?
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>> did they say how was the weather? did you do your math homework? megyn: i have got to go, but i'm against both of you. see you soon.
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megyn: the key to farm-fresh vegetables could be over our heads literally. in new york they are hoping to tap into rooftop space for farming. laura ingle is live from a rooftop garden in manhattan. is this possible? >> reporter: it is possible.
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you are looking at 700 tomato plants. these will be picked and sold at market downstairs. put in deli sal lads and sauteed for sauces at the restaurant. it's one example of how this one business is making it work. it's more than a trend. it's a lifestyle that's hope will sustain people in the future. these roof tops could soon become field of green if an environmental proposal gets a green thumb's up. >> there are cities with large flat roofs where you could fit a rooftop greenhouse. there are people doing that, but we know they are running into a zoning height limit. >> reporter: it would allow more greenhouses to be built on commercial buildings and permit open rare farms. all to promote the development of local urban food production
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and help grow jobs. >> reporter: that's a blend of 7 or 8 varieties of lettuce. >> reporter: in brooklyn gotham greens sells to local grocers and restaurants it's one of a handful. successful rooftop farms which encourage the zoning changes. >> it's the highest quality produce you can buy in new york city. when it's ripe, it's grown only a few miles away from someone's plate or supermarket shelf. >> reporter: we know farming in general is not easy. imagine alling all of that equipment up on top of the rooftop. rooftop farmers know this will never replace conventional farming but it will be sustaining a lot of people. we'll be looking for it. megyn: i love it. coming up, new tornado warnings. okay, team! after age 40, we can start losing muscle --
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