god bless. we'll see you soon. there may not be any compromise on the budget. but you'll see the two top democrats and two top republicans talking about the details. you may only hear from the pundits but tonight you will hear from the american people. this is fox news special and it's coming up now. >> standing in front of 20 republicans who are going to be voting in the republican primary shout out to the american people who you want to win the nomination.

okay, clearly it's still not determined. who do you support and why? >> romney. >> because? >> his decisions on the different issues match how i feel. >> who are you supporting? >> i support romney. >> who are you supporting? >> ron paul, only man of principle and the only one who will stop these crazy foreign adventures. >> ron paul. >> who are you supporting and why? >> newt gingrich. i think he is very experienced. i think maybe the reason he is not a favorite in the republican party is because he a renegade. >> rick santorum because he is a social conservative. >> one more. >> he is genuine. he is for real. >> months of this conversation, in some cases years because we have two candidates that have run before.

new hampshire, one of mitt romney's most important surrogates, what message do you have to for them why romney should be the nominee? >> we need to beat barack obama in november. >> do you agree with that? >> yes! >> mitt romney is the candidate that can beat barack obama, we need somebody who has been outside of washington and who actually has the private sector experience, that knows how jobs are created and the private sector is right now. we don't need a washington insider. we need someone that knows how to fix problems. he has done that both in the private sector. in the olympics and it's not easy to govern in a blue state. it takes courage to do that and balance the budget there. >> this is the second second time for father. your father came very close to win a state and may win on super

tuesday. is he more electable than mitt romney? >> i think it makes a difference what kind of republican you elect. any republican isn't good enough. when we elected george bush we had great expectations but we doubled the debt under george bush, doubled the size of education. we added a lot of environmental regulations. we didn't go quite the right way. ron paul has never volunteered to raise taxes, never voted for a budget that is unbalanced. he has consistent voting record to do it. >> rick santorum correct? >> yes. >> you are from pennsylvania? >> rick santorum didn't do well in the last pennsylvania elections. is he the most electable against barack obama? >> yes, he is. first i want to say each of the four candidates are good men.

each of the four candidates want what is best for this country. any one of them will do a better job than president obama. i think rick will do the best job out of four. i've known rick for 25 years. what you see is what you get. what he sticks to what he has to say. he is social conservative and fiscal conservative and more in line and more in step with hard working tax paying americans. i was a dedicate and we would go into crack houses and we -- district attorney and we would go into crack houses and we want people that we could trust. rick santorum is the guy i would take we to arrest a drug dealer. >> you have been congressman and chairman of an important house committee and you are newt gingrich man. why? >> it's important that we beat barack obama and out put the

right person in the white house. i happen to think these are perilous times. i have old enough to have grandchildren now. i am worried about their future on a daily basis. we need someone who is bold enough to challenge what has gone on for conventional wisdom for too long. newt gingrich did the impossible. if you would have asked american people, is there a possibility that republicans could overtake the house of representatives, everyone would laugh with you. we thought, who is this guy? newt believed it. he formed not only a policy but a team of people who were willing to do the tough work to change this country around. we need change this country around domestically and internationally. we need to think boldly. as reagan said, it's not pastel colors, bold colors to fly if

we're going to win. newt gingrich is high risk, high reward. i remember the same criticism that was made of reagan in 1980. that is why i support newt. >> you see them up there and nothing said negative about each other. that is not the debates have been. it's not the way the ads have been. in a moment, i'm going to give you a chance to ask them questions and challenge them. later on in the show, something really special. chairman paul ryan, tom coburn, democratic senator michael bennett will be here to give you details about the budget. this is an incredible opportunity for the american people to challenge their elected officials. elected officials. stay tuned

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public. what question would you ask congressman to answer about rick santorum. >> how is he going to actually continue to his campaign? i he noe he is running on shoestring. he is not on ballot in virginia which is where i'm from next week. i just -- i want to have a warm feeling that he can go all the way. >> you are a rick santorum supporter? >> yes. >> i've walked in his shoes to an extent. freshman i was out spent four to one and i was out every day after the election. he is doing the same thing. he doesn't have as much money as everyone else has but he is determined and he working his tail out 24 hours a day every single day. >> what question do you have for senator ron paul. >> what can i do as a college

student to further the popularity of your father and help get his campaign up. >> why is so many of junior your generation attracted to ron paul? >> i feel he says the truth and he foretold the situation now when no one else was talking about it. everyone else knew about it but he would stand up and be a man and talk about it. >> i tell you it amazes i was the rally in virginia, 2,000 people. 400 people in the parking lot. a guy shock hands with barack obama and on his hand it said vote ron paul. [ laughter ] >> the kids are hilarious. one resident in new york put on the top of a building in ten foot letters, google ron paul. this is the kind of creativeness

they have done. he has 500,000 facebook friends. nobody has had this energy among the youth. republican party needs to figure out how can we excite youth again. it's the message. my dad is hip 20-year-old guy and lesson to mtv. but the young people like him because his message is different. he doesn't believe we should go to war without congress voting on it. that is what the constitution says. we should believe that as conservatives, many of us do but he preaches it and he is reluctant go to war and but can you believe in a strong national defense and at the same time reluctant to go war. that is the message he has and different than others. >> who would like to ask the senator about mitt romney? >> how can we bring independent voters that have gone away from

romney. that is the challenge that romney is losing support from people like me. >> he has nine points among independents. we know much of it is because of the attacks but the fact he has dropped. how does he restore them? >> i think he has to bring this back to the big principles that are at play in this election. he is someone who firmly believes this is a country where hard work will be rewarded. it is a country where opportunity is unlimited. i think bringing it back to those big principles and the difference between what he stands for and what all of our candidates stand for versus barack obama with a smaller more accountable government that is going to be responsive to the people and fiscally responsible. i think bringing it back to those principles. people want to live in a country where when you work hard, you earn your success. the land where personal responsibility is what is

primary and not bigger government and where the government makes the decisions for you. i think those big picture principles that he believes in very firmly core of his beliefs is what he has to convey to people. >> i like speaker gingrich. my concern with him is his ethics record and whether we think whatever scandal occurred should not be in a court of public opinion. it should be part of the campaign. i'm worried about his campaign imploding on that if he is nominee. >> i don't think anybody has vedted any more than newt has. i'm not going to justify some of his ethical slips or personal slips as he has not justified them. i happen to be privileged at his first communion when he converted to catholicism. i believe that newt at this time has made a substantial change in his personal latest of seen it.

as i say, i it was privileged to be there. you don't make a decision like that lightly. he has not done so. he has been as honest he can with the american people he had lapses in the past. he asked for forgiveness from god. it's different. i think he has done that. he has been open about that. in terms of ethical lapses in congress, if you go back and look at that it doesn't hold up. it was an effort by democrats to embarrass the speaker of the house. they did not do it with what i believe moral integrity but newt has had to deal with that. >> do you feel they understand your challenges and concerns, yes or no? >> yes. >> do you think one of those people are going to defeat barack obama? >> yes. >> so you are pretty optimistic. i'm not sure if i would be. coming up next, see a couple of

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let's go one of the best ads. >> santorum voted to raise the debt limit five times. >> romney turned a deficit into a surplus without raising taxes. >> santorum was voting for billions in waste including the bridge to know where. >> romney and santorum big differences. >> that ad is what they call a contract ad, it's not strictly negative. what is your reaction to it? do you see a difference between romney and santorum. what is the differences. >> washington insider versus a businessman, positive result. >> what is the difference? >> it talks about various issues that is forefront of the election, how is romney versus head-on and santorum has caused some of these issues. >> it's a great ad for romney, however, i'm not sure i would like for santorum to be able to respond to it.

i don't know how much is truthful. >> how much is true? >> there is a great deal left out. rick santorum doesn't have the money to come up with ads like this number one. number two, talking about increasing the debt ceiling, it's been done hundreds of times. i can assure you that understand the circumstances if governor romney becomes president he will be faced raising the debt ceiling. it's really easy to say you are not going to do it when you are out there campaigning. when you are in there and playing hardball and to get 535 people to agree, it's tougher. >> who would vote to raise the debt ceiling and who would vote to shut the government down. >> the thing is that santorum runs as a conservative, but here is the deal. obamacare passed with no votes

to spare. are a electric specter was the deciding vote. rick santorum is a conservative but he supports arlen specter over the real conservative pat too many any mi. i don't think there is any -- toomey. >> he also voted to expand medicare when medicare is short of money. so i think there is explaining to be done when you run as a conservative but your voting record doesn't reflect that. >> would you say it's an attack ad? >> i think its fair comparison. first of all, rick santorum he is nice guy. he didn't exactly shalk it up in washington. if you think about it, i appreciate the congressman's explanation but that is to go along to get along. $15 trillion in debt we can't go along to get along. that was a good ad to show

outside washington. >> any legislator is going to get slammed for votes. you can say romney destroyed jobs. how is romney going to balance the budget when he says he will cut taxes, keep the military spending as it is. not damage the social safety net. it's fantasy. >> one more to show you. this is for rick santorum. >> rick santorum he is the only proven conservative with the bold plan to restore america's greatness. create dynamic jobs, cut wasteful spending and reform washington. rick santorum for president. >> only true conservative? what is your answer? >> that was a great ad. i'm a gingrich supporter. >> i have to ask you, there was time when gingrich was leading the polls. now, he is down 12% in most

states. those votes have gone to rick santorum. why is that? >> i don't know because my vote hasn't gone in that direction. i would say that when you are the object of $20 million worth of negative ads as newt was it's going to take some damage. unfortunately, it did. i have advised newt and many others have he ought to remain positive. that is how he shines. i don't think there is any doubt if you watch the debates, there is one person that has handled every issue that has been presented in several levels. he had a not only makes the surface argument and underlying principle argument. he can also go of after the president of the united states in that way. it's interesting to look at the ads but it bothers me like members of a family trying to distinguish themselves from one

another when they really believe that most of the same things. as the time goes on, they keep hitting each other harder and harder with the real fight is the guy next-door. >> i think gingrich lost his luster when people found out how erratic he was. sitting on the couch talking to pelosi about global warming, traveling with al sharpton talking about the education agenda, the fannie mae and freddie mac. we were offended republicans that voted for the bailout, support for the bank bailout and support for fannie mae and freddie mac are complete non-starter for any candidate. >> most of the votes would go to rick santorum? >> yes, i think newt should stay in the race. american people will make the decision when it comes time for the primary. i'm not going to tell any of the

candidates to get out of the race. >> the speaker has been very tough on governor romney. should the speaker accept the vote? >> i would agree he should stay in the race. i think a vision debate is important for all the candidates. i certainly wouldn't tell any candidate to get out of the race. we've had great debates. i think any one of our candidates will be able to beat barack obama in a debate hands down. >> who wants the race to go on? who wants it over with? and the race will go on. [ laughter ] >> when we come back, one final segment with our top presidential surrogates. coming up later, budget debate with chairman and several colleagues and two incredible colleagues and two incredible television a i take insulin,

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candidate who can beat barack obama in november. he's the quote, the only one in the race who knows how to create jobs. and the former governor of massachusetts during an appearance on "meet the press". i'm lauren green now back to super tuesday preview with frank luntz. >> you have seen two ads and next one is for ron paul and one of the best of his campaign cycle. let's take a look. >> flip-flopers can't clean up the mess. one man stands alone. a real plan to balance the budget in three. consistent, guided by faith and principle. ron paul. the one we've been looking for. >> i got to ask republicans here ron paul is the most anti-washington of the candidates, is he not, do we

agree on that? then what is holding you back. what the concern? foreign policy. how many did say foreign policy? i did this in new hampshire and same thing happened there. can you defend ron paul's foreign policy? >> absolutely. you've got 30 minutes for me. what i would say his foreign policy is historic foreign policy of our founding fathers, only congress declares war. we don't let the president take us to war. we're supposed to have a declaration of war. it's absolutely in the constitution. we don't do it. president obama went into libya with no declaration of war. we need congress involved. that is the main thrust of his foreign policy. >> i want to ask the question: how do you deal with the remark the good congressman, he is brilliant man, but he doesn't

mind if iran has a nuclear weapon. how do you reconcile that? >> a lot of people think that but that has been misrepresented. >> let me give you his position. let me give you his position. he stated his position. now let me give you his position. you stated his position. let me give it to you. we can't get anywhere. let me state what it is. his position he doesn't want iran to have a nuclear weapon. that we should try to contain iran if they get one. his position is the same as the three previous leaders of the central command have warned against preemptive attacks against iran. they don't think it will be best thing for the country. >> i served on the armed services committee. i asked the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff.

he said it's not so much they acquire the nuclear weapon. they are the largest state sponsored country of terrorism and if they get a nuclear weapon to a terrorist group and that is real risk the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff that was a real risk if iran acquires a nuclear weapon and the world cannot stand that. if we have another attack or terrorist group. >> he is cautioning against it. he is cautioning against an attack. >> i do not believe that we can be in a world where iran has a nuclear weapon with what they have done. >> i can assure you governor romney is president, he will not allow iran to get a nuclear weapon. >> speaker gingrich has been out spent by romney and this is one of the best campaign ads for newt gingrich. >> only one man stood up to the deficit.

only one man people off of welfare and got them back to work. only one man balanced the budget and created millions of jobs. newt gingrich, only bold ideas can restore america's greatness. >> that was a good ad? >> yes. >> what is so positive about it? >> it's about what gingrich can and will do. >> it's track record but he is grounded in real i think true american founding father principles. >> and congressman paul has been critical of the speaker in a number of different areas. is that criticism justified? >> i think support of the bank bailout receiving money from fannie mae and freddie mac really precludes me of considering him. tea party was started because republicans voted for this bank bailout of wall street. for him to actually get paid to

support is non-starter for most tea party folks. >> look, i know ron paul. i served with ron paul. i think ron paul is a friend of but every time i have been in the congress with ron paul he has consistently voted no on everything. wait a second. wait a minute. every congress needs one ron paul, you can't have more of them. there is a difference between being a member of congress where you are in the permanent minority always voting no and being a president of the united states just as newt gingrich went beyond the position of the loyal opposition to leading the loyal opposition to being the majority and forcing bill clinton to accepted balance budgets. forcing bill clinton to have welfare reform. you have to lead this country. you have to have ideas and be able to accomplish something. >> what do you want to make up

your minds? what do you want in the next few weeks? what are you looking for. have they to told you? >> yes. i want somebody that believes in america and its future and principles and ideas. >> have they told what you are looking for? >> i still have doubts about all of them. i still have a lot of good thoughts about all of them. i'm not going to make% made until the fall. >> is anyone else undecided. did anything they say moved you? >> everything. but can you trust them? not them but the candidates? yes, that's right you get in that hot seat and it's not so easy to say you are going to do what you are going to do. >> do you trust those candidates? >> i don't trust them completely yet. >> i want to thank our our gas

for their participation. coming up. [ applause ] >> coming up we'll have an incredible debate on the budget that will be released in the next couple weeks on the republican side. you will hear details, two democrats and two republicans and house and senate and even our group. a few will disappear because we want to make sure we have a

.... >> we're back with the discussion on the budget that features republicans and democrats, house members and senators, first, let's start with you the american people. i want one phrase to describe how you feel progress has handled the budget. >> sloppy. >> they haven't handled it. >> blindfolded. >> corrupt. >> chairman paul ryan? i apologize, how many have a

favorable how they handled the budget. one lonely person. it's pretty negative reaction. how do you respond? >> i expect that reaction. that is the results that congress has provided. system is broken. we're in paralysis. our government has made promises that it knows it can't keep. republicans for democrats have been making empty promises and the bill is about to come due. we're borrowing 40 cents of every dollar the government spechbdz. we're mortgaging not just our children's future, but we're going to harm our economy. so what we decided to do in the house is to deal with this. is to tackle this challenge before it tackles us. >> how many got a favorable reaction, raise your hands. >> i wasn't finished making my point. [ laughter ] >> halfway through. that is the challenge. it takes politicians too long. >> the problem we see it, granted i'm a house member.

in order to pass the budget, the law says the how passes the budget the senate passes a budget you compromise and pass a unified budget. house passed a budget to tackle the debt the senate didn't pass budget in 2010 and 2011 and now they say they will not pass one in 2012. if one of these two bodies doesn't act. nothing gets done. >> senator bennett, senator from colorado, is the senate responsible for why nothing is passing? >> i think washington is responsible for it. i think everybody here owns this. there is reason we have 9% approval rating is because we're not getting our job done. i represent colorado. what they want me to be able to come home and tell them we

materially addressed the problem. we're all in it together and it was bipartisan because they don't believe in either party's go it alone approach on this. people back here in washington have figured out every excuse for not getting it done. it's long past time for democrats and republicans to solve this problem. >> you've got the house and senate that can't cooperate. republicans and democrats can't cooperate. you took an independent position from the senator from oklahoma, you took a conservative position. what advice do you have for them about bringing people together can this get done? >> sure. what do you think is important is next election more important than our country? is the country more important than your next election or your party? the fact is as we lived the last 30 years off the kids that is coming off the next 30, that is immoral.

partisanship exacerbates that. long term thinking, sack efficiently leadership the qualities you want your kids to display are not very often in display in washington. the thing i wrestle with it doesn't matter whether i get re-elected but whether or not the country gets fixed and we are not fixing the country. congressman van hollen you would like to see this become political so you could replace paul ryan. what roles do democrats have in the debate? >> that is not true. as tom said the challenge shear to make sure we all put the country first. we have a big debt problem. the question is not whether we tackle it how we tackle it. tom served on a bipartisan commission simpson-boles.

you had democrats and reopens coming together to tackle will the issue. nobody got to have it all their way hundred percent. they had to make tough compromises for the good of the country. i think that provided a framework. i don't necessarily agree with every specific recommendation but the framework that plan set out was a balanced approach meaning we said we have to tight our belt and get spending under control. we need to deal with the tax loopholes and closing tax loopholes. let's make sure we have shared responsibility. that is the approach that has to be taken. >> do you buy it, yes or no? >> it sounds great, but you can't do it. you you don't have the will to get it done. every day, i see what you guys don't get done. >> i believe they have the will to do it. i just don't think they compromise enough. when we elect somebody we expect

them to be able to compromise and move forward. >> it the same thing, politicians keep saying over and over again, for the good of the country but nothing ever changes. >> here is what we're going to do, we're going to talk to four of them. it's so rare republicans and democrats sitting together. we're going to ask for a specific solution. i'm going to challenge each of them to explain why their answer is better than any other answer. is better than any other answer. we'll be back in a few seconds. living with the pain of moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis... could mean living with joint damage. help stop the damage before it stops you with humira. for many adults with moderate to severe ra, humira's proven to help relieve pain and stop joint damage. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal events can occur, such as infections, lymphoma, or other types of cancer,

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.... >> the budget about to go in into full gear, some of the ads we've seen is incredibly powerful. let's take one of those that has attracted public attention. >> 41 cents out of every dollar is borrowed. china is like your dealer and addiction and dealer control your life. you need to spend less. washington can learn from a lot from a drug addict. >> if the question is cutting spending or raising taxes? how many say cutting spending? if i gave you the choice of cutting spending or combination,

who would choose just cutting spending. how about combination of both? can you get it done? >> tax increases don't plow into new spending. problem we have tax increases is going to pay for more deficit spending. let's say we need to reduce the deficit. that is the problem. [ applause ] >> we don't want to chase higher levels of spending and higher taxes because you'll shut down the economy. >> the point ways trying to make we're putting our ideas and defining by our actions by actually writing a budget in great detail and telling the country here is what we propose to solve this problem, jobs, prosperity and getting us in the path of prosperity. we don't have partners in the senate willing to come on the field and propose a budget. yes, i am critical of the

president instead of raising the debt by 78% is what we do if nothing happened it raises the debt by 76%. >> he continues to spend money that we don't have and doesn't seem to care what it's going to be ten years from now. >> phony arithmetic. >> i think the ideas are great in theory but it's a moot point if the senate doesn't put something forward. >> i think it's really important. i'm not going to cast blame on one house or the other. i think we have a job -- that is fine. i'm not here to defend the senate. i think it would have been great house passed a bill that was bipartisan that reflected views of the people that i represent sees as a problem that has to be

solved comprehensively and understand it has to be balanced. the plan that tom voted for three cut and interest savings to revenue. it wasn't one to one. it wasn't more revenues and cuts but it got to a point where we're actually starting to change the trajectory of the debt over ten years. >> with all due respect, come with your own budget and compromise and come up with something. >> you are not knowing where you are spending. until you can tell me what you are spending and why you are spending it. >> the plans have put out with the exception of ron paul's plan actually make matters worse. this is not one party's problem, this is washington's problem. the political problem that tom was saying. we're going to have an opportunity to address this when the bush tax cuts expire and when the automatic cutting into

place. >> you just can't blame washington, sir. >> you have to back senator's tom coburn's plan. start cutting now. >> waste is defined differently. you don't have a uniform definition. one says tax cut, one says it's spending. we have to have a unilateral definition before we solve the problem. >> there is at least $400 billion waste and fraud of duplication just put out another study. gao put out a study over a hundred billion dollars of duplication, programs doing the same thing. congress did nothing on it. >> you won't find any individual in this crowd or republican or democrat says they are for waste. we have to talk straightforward to groups like you. i heard 50% of the budget was waste.

50% of the budget is social security, medicare and if you add in defense, it takes you over 50%. this is hard decisions. that is why we're having a big debate in this country. if you got hard decisions -- >> i'm sorry. but that is why you are elected. when you -- you -- [ laughter ] >> when you don't ask, it makes me angry. i go to the ballot box because it's my responsibility. i take it very seriously. i don't feel that congress does the same. >> again, this is why i know a lot of us has mentioned simpson-boles. it was bipartisan group of people that looked at the budget got together, she can compromise

or van hollen's way. >> actual plan, that actually fixes this problem that has been passed by the house of representatives go to budget house.com. we're passing a budget plan to save this country from a debt crisis. if we don't prevent this coming debt crisis the poor and elderly get the hurt and worst. >> it cuts one tax loophole for the purpose of deficit reduction not one penny. >> that has to be last word. on fox news we give the democrats the last word. [ laughter ] thank you for being here. [ applause ] >> you saw presidential debate tonight. you saw two senators and two congressmen who normally don't have t