>> shannon: a u.s. military member is being detained in afghanistan, accused of opening fire on apr afghan civilian, killing as many as 16 people. the u.s. is warning of retaliatory violence and the president of afghanistan is speaking out. live in washington, we are following the latest from the campaign trail, ahead of the alabama and mississippi primaries. but first for the latest to afghanistan, we go live to connor powell. >> reporter: afghan president hamid karzai has said that 16 afghan civilians were killed when a u.s. soldier opened fire. nine of those killed were children, three of them were women. some of the others were men.

the exact number has been changes here, but we do believe it's 16 or so civilians that have been killed. the u.s. military says they are investigating the incident. but what we do know is that a u.s. soldier walked off his base, early this morning, around 3:00 a.m., walked into afghan civilian homes and began shooting them. he went into several homes before, he then walked back to his base and was detained by u.s. and afghan officials. he is currently in the custody of the united states military. they are trying to figure out what exactly prompted this attack. it is not clear. there are reports that there was an incident before he left the base. but nobody's exactly sure. now, u.s. military here has condemned the act and says they are investigating it. the ambassy has warned americans in afghanistan to be cautious because of the fear of reprisal from afghans that are angry this. comes as there is very tense weeks here in afghanistan, just a coup of weeks ago, the u.s. soldiers burned copies of the

koran, park sparking weeks of protest and violence against u.s. troops here in afghanistan. there is fear that this will continue to deteriorate the relationship between the united states government and the united states military and the afghan public and the entire strategy here in afghanistan focuses on and centers around that the u.s. and the international community are here to help afghan civilians. this type of incident removes that trust that is supposed to be there between the united states and the afghan population. the president of the united states, barack obama, issued a statement and said they are aware and they are disturbed by the reports and they are continuing to monitor the situation. but right now, there is real concern that we will see a repeat of the violence that was prompted by the koran burning a few days ago. the situation is only likely to get worse. >> live from afghanistan, thank you very much. >> shannon: on another international front, president obama has been busy to quell israel's growing concern that

the u.s. is not taking iran's nuclear threat seriously and enough. the israeli prime minister gave the president the book of estevery, telling of a plot against the people. joining us is the ambassador to the u.s. michael orrin. >> thank you. >> l. >> shannon: are your concerns alaid at this point? how do i feel? >> before i talk about the iranian and the nuclear issue. over the weekend, iranian-backed terrorists in gaza put a million and-a-half israelis, like 145 million americans you were fire, 200,000 of our school children near shelters today, not in school. one of those missiles hit a school. let me express my admiration for israelis for their courage and

the people of america, the congress and the president to help to provide us with the iron dome anti-missile system, which successfully intercepted a great number of those missiles. i think we have to be very, very aware that the iranian-backed terrorists are firing this number of missiles now, imagine how many they would be fire figure they knew they were backed by an aircrafts rannian nuclear weapon. >> is it fair to say that the israel filed on a militant leader, killing him on friday and this was in retaliation? >> the leader had conducted a terror attack against our people in august, killed 8 israelis, was planning to conduct another. it was very much like an american operation against osama bin laden for us. >> excellent. moving through, as tegses continue there in the gaza strip. we know that is ongoing. let's talk about the broader worries that have you about iran's nuclear program. do you feel assured at this point that the u.s. does, as the president said, have israel's

back? >> we have a very close and continuing conversation with the united states, with american leaders over the iranian issue. i think they understand that our prier spective, america is a very big country with a big window of opportunity. it looks out that window and sees iran very far awasm we are a tiny country with a small window. we see iran in our back yard. we have a different perspective. but we are remaining very close in touch and continuing that close contact. >> shannon: do you feel that israel has an obligation, not to ask permission, the prime minister was very clear that israel maintains the right at any time to defend its own nation and soff rit, to protect itself. but is there any obligation on israel's part to give a heads-up to the u.s., prior to any type of attack on iran? >> we are very close allies, dough we do maintain a very constant and close communication with one another.

as president obama said, israel is that sovereign country, it has that right to decide how best to defend his dispz he ?aid only israel has the ability to defend itself by itself against any middle eastern threat or combination of middle eastern threats. >> shannon: what do you believe is the point of no return for israel? we know that the u.s. has a great deal of intel. israel has its own intelligence. is there a red line in the sand? >> i am not going to go into the operational details. there is some time, but not much time. we have been warn about this iranian nuclear program for 20 years. we have been patient through 10 years of diplomacy, 6 years of sanctions we have said again and again that we need crippling sanctions and a credible military throat threat, that credible threat is what got cadoff tow give up his nuclear program. it is very important at that

time ayatollahs in iran believe that they cannot make this nuclear weapon without very dire consequences, indeed. >> ambassador, thank you very much for your time today. >> kofi annan says he left israel without a peace deal but he is hopeful. the united nations says more than 6500 people have been killed in awe assad's rein. he blames terror rebel groups for the violence. >> shannon: mitt romney and ruck rick have gained momentum, romney picked up 38 delegates, with wins in several territories and wyoming bringing his total up. and santa ana got three more

from kansas and wyoming. any candidate must get 1144 delegates to win the g.o.p. nomination. it will be a close race in mississippi and alabama on tuesday. former speaker newt gingrich and former senator rick santorum both made stops on the sunday shows to talk their strategies. steve was watching it all. >> reporter: hi, yeah. it's been a republican primary dominated by very tight races. and more of the same drama on tuesday. newt gingrich is practically tied with rick santorum in alabama. and santorum continues to take aim at mitt romney, suggesting campaign spenning can only buy you so much. >> we have been outspen 10-1 and that's fine. but if you are outspent 10-1 and has all the establishment behind him and all of this, quote, wind in his back, yet he can't close the deal, winning ohio, winning michigan by the skin of his

teeth. but that's okay. we have the grassroots support. >> reporter: romney, who has no events scheduled today, has more than twice the delegates that rick santorum has at this point in the race and as santorum pointed out, romney has much more in the way of campaign funds. both candidates increased their tv advertising for the final days of the campaigns in mississippi and alabama. for newt gingrich, who won south carolina and his home state of georgia, these two upcoming southern primaries could be crucial. a gingrich aide said that the former speaker needs to win both states to justify continuing in the race, but the candidate told a.p., he plans to go all the way to the convention. and he turned his fire on frontrunner mitt romney. >> yes, he's the frontrunner. he is know a strong frontrunner, almost all conservatives are opposed to him, which is the base of the party. i think we are as likely to see after the last primary in june, we are as likely to see a 60-day

conversation about what will happen, as we torsee romney dominating. >> reporter: going to into the race, as gingrich and santorum are tied in alabama and romney has an 8-point lead in mississippi. >> all right. thank you. >> shannon: rick santorum will join us live from the campaign trail a little bit later in the show. it is your turn to get a question in. we would like to know what you want to ask the g.o.p. hopeful. tweet us your questions. we are going to try to get at least one or more of your questions to him, live, coming up. president obama's looking to capture the attention of women vote thers week. on wednesday, he will address nurses to talk health care reform, capitalizes on the on the sandra fluke controversy. >> tomorrow, the obama campaign will send out a million mailings -- a million -- to a million women in three batches, some for moms, some for young

ladies and some for older. the goal is to convince all of them that the president is right on the controversy over birth control special abortion. and on friday, the president started to make his case. >> women deserve an equal day's pay for an equal day's work. our daughters should be treated just the same and have the same opportunities as our sons. >> yes yesterday, the new york times quoted a pollster saying that women 30 to 55 are always the most important target when it comes to health care because they are the care givers. the 23rd of this month will be the second anniversary of the president signing his meth care bill into law. the president won with women in 2008, but women broke for republicans in the mid-terms and the mississippi governor says women in his neck of the woods like romney. >> 50% of the people voting in this primary will be women. governor romney has a great

favorability rating with women. i think a southern female professional woman is going to say that's who i. to vote for. >> the campaign official tells us that the president won't be personally involved in the outreach, he will be busy with the british prime minister. bow friday, he will hit the campaign trail in georgia and in illinois. at that point, we will have a chance to see firsthand, if he pleads for female support more aggressively or differently from in the past. >> i'll watch my mail box. thank you. people acrossia pan gathered to return remember the more than 19,000 people believed killed when a massive earthquake and tsunami struck that island nation one year ago today. there were moments of silence and prayer. the magnitude 9 quake led to a nuclear disaster at the fukushima power plant. they hope to have it rebuilt within 10 years. taking care of our wounded vets should be our nation's priority.

we will take a look at what v.a. hospitals are doing to prepare for a new surge. both newt gingrich and rick santorum are fighting to be the anti-romney candidate. up next, we will ask members of both campaigns to ask for the other candidate to drop out of the race. [ male announcer ] say goodbye to "ho-hum," and hello to "whoa, yum." use campbell's cream of chicken soup to make easy enchiladas, cheesy chicken & rice, and other chicken dishes that are oh...so...whoa. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do.

>> the g.o.p. candidates are laser focused on the alabama and mississippi contests. does romney's large delegate advantage mean those are a must-win for newt gingrich or rick santorum to stay in the race? joining me are representatives from both of those campaigns. rick santorum's press campaign, alice stewart and newt gingrich's campaign director, joe. thanks for joining us. joe, there has been a lot of speculation about whether or not gingrich has to win alabama and mississippi. he's promising a southern surge. >> we think we will do very well. i recall back to an earlier caucus and mitt romney won handily, by a similar margin to senator santorum won kansas. and senator santorum has been spending his time in minnesota and colorado, campaigning there.

so while senator santorum was campaigning in can sarks we spent our time in mississippi and alabama and we started from a 10-point deficit and the latest poes from friday show us in the lead or tied for the lead. so we think we doll very well on tuesday. >> shannon: alice, congratulations on the win in kansas. as joe mentioned, the polls have been all over the place. pretty tight in the two states on tuesday. what is the strategy for wing over southern voters? >> keep doing what we are doing to follow up on what joe said, we spent our time in minnesota, colorado, kansas, many states, not just campaigning, but winning there. that's the key. we have won 7 states. we have tied with another one. and the surge is the santorum surge. the victory in kansas, overwhelmingly showed that people are looking at rick santorum has the consistent conservative. 51% of the people in kansas caucus for rick santorum, that shows that he is the consistent

conservative that matches up with their views and values. we seeing that the people are looking at a two-man race. this is rick santorum versus mitt romney. the tea party loyalists and the conservatives are realizing that rick santorum is the one who will carry the conservative torch. he has done so in the past. we will see that also, come tuesday in alabama and mississippi. no doubt. >> this week, there were a growing number of calls calls fm campaigns and supporters of a certain campaign, but for different conservative leaders, for the former speaker to drop out and throw support to rick santorum. no indication that that is anywhere near happening. but rick santorum said he won't call on anyone to drop out of the campaign. if you win in albarack obamaa and mississippi, will you call for him to drop out? >> no. i think that each candidate has to decide on their own. but going back to what alice said about consistent conservativism. the problem that we are

seeing -- the problem for the senator in alabama and in mississippi that we are seeing is that the more his record on spending, the senator's record on spending is learned, the less support he gets, which is why gingrich has been leading him in those states. the senator inherited a balanced budget when he became part of the leadership in the republican senate and lost and accumulated $1.7 tril ron in debt. they increased the amount of debt as a percentage of gdp by 12%, contrast with speaker gingrich's record to balance the budget and led to four straight balanced becomes and reduced the amount of debt by 20%. that's a contrast, which is becoming more and more clear and it's becoming clear in alabama and mississippi, especially as we campaign there. the more people learn that record, the more they will rethink about who the consistent conservative is and who has a record that can successfully go up against president obama. >> shannon: alice, the final

word to respond? >> i appreciate the opportunity to talk about the contrast that people are really concerned with, rick has never voted to increase taxes and the real contrast between he and newt gingrich and mitt romney, he has vowed to repeal obamacare. the other two can't say that because newt gingrich was a firm supporter of individual mandates 20 years ago and mitt romney was both a model for carescpair romneycare. newt gingrich was on the couch with nancy pelosi, supporting cap and trade. rick would never do that. people are looking at the contrasts and seeing rick as a consistent conservative. this is a two-man rales race and people don't need to seltz for the moderate candidate of mitt romney. they want the true fiscal conservative, rick santorum. we expect to see that on tuesday in alabama and mississippi. >> shannon: best of luck out there on the campaign trail.

we'll see you again, very soon. thank you both. >> thank you. fresh off the big win in kansas, rick santorum will be here live in the next hour. we are combing through your twitter questions as they are coming in. keep them coming. your twitter questions will be asked to rick santorum when he joins us in the next hour. >> the cost of war with a growing number of veterans coming home, v.a. hospitals are working overtime. part of the preparation means hiring thousands of new employees. we go live to los angeles with more on that. >> with the recent u.s. troop withdrawal from iraq and a scail back of forces in afghanistan, the department of veterans affairs has really become inundated because it's estimated that 93,000 troops will enroll in the vha this year alone. that's a 183% increase from just five years ago. experts say these veterans face a number of unique challenges, compared to those in the past. many have done multiple

deployments overseas and more are returning home with ptsd or post traumatic stress disorder. in order to the v.a. increasing the staff size, the programs offered have changed, too. new offices have been opened across america and new post deployment clinics have been established to provide the best care possible to meet the needs of our heros and not just the physical ones. >> we offer couples they werey and group they werey and family therapy, we offer marital therapy. they might need help with substance abuse. and we have a substance abuse program here in our clinic. veterans can get help for a number of issues itch the president's budget has been very helpful to us, allowing us to expand that care. we have really been working for the last several years to expand the range of services that are

available. >> many veterans have criticized the v.a. in the past, saying that the system is difficult to navigate and they complain of long waiting lists to be seen. but the v.a. experts tell us with the addition of this new staff and the addition of some of these new clinics, they are working hard to make sure that no one slips through the quacko cracks and they can accommodate the surge. shannon? >> shannon: thank you. the u.s. military has developed a new nonlethal way to keep crowds under control. they can say it's completely safe. we will take a closer look at how it works when one of our own becomes a guinea pig, coming up. if you haven't ordered your new ipad yet, you may be out of luck. we will explain why. [ male announcer ] for the saver, and a big first step. for the spender who needs

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>> a u.s. soldier's being held in afghanistan, accused of opening fire on civilians, in some reports, killing up to 16 people. the white has has expressed occurrence over the incident. peter doocy has some of our top stories. >> an investigation into the shooting is ongoing, but officials say the soldier left base and opened fire on afghan civilians, in their homes. it is not clear what his motive was or if he knew the victims. afghan president hamid karzai says 16 people were killed. the u.s. in capull has offered condolences to the families. canneditates -- candidates are pushing in the deep south. 90 delegates are at stake on tuesday and there are close races in both states. the girl scouts are celebrating their 100th anniversary this weekend. more than 3,000 girls are getting together in savanna,

georgia, the birthplace of the girl scouts. if you want the new ipad, you will have to be patient. apple has sold out in every country will launch in on friday, even if you pre-order, you will have to wait. apple says they won't ship until march 19, three days after they hit the shelves. those are the top stories right now. romney's probably the weakest frontrunner since 1920. yes, he's the frontrunner. but almost all conservatives are opposed to him. >> shannon: that was newt gingrich, taking aim at rival mitt romney on fox news sunday. he says that romney doesn't have what it takes to win over the whole party. i sat down with chris wallace to get more on the interview. >> shannon: chris, you checked in with newt gingrich, ahead of

two big contests, alabama and mississippi. you talked about whether or not they are must-wins. >> chris: they are very important. but he says he's in this, all the way to the convention, regardless of whether he wins. he has to say that, you don't want to put that pressure on yourself and limit your options, although one of his aides has before said, he has to win these two. but he's only won two of 25 states so far, already. and you just -- it's hard to see a path to the nomination, or even to playing a big role in the convention, if he can't defend southern territories, in his home turf, in alabama and mississippi. they are very important for him. >> shannon: he faces a number of growing call, not just the candidates and their camps, but from other conservatives to get out of the race and get mind santorum. doesn't sound like he's ready to do that. >> chris: not at all. i asked him, he said this, label "conservative" doesn't say anything. he asked if they were both more

conservative than mitt romney. i think a lot of rick santorum, but gingrich says i'm a big transformational figure. i have a lot of dramatic thoughts about how to change. and effect in effect, he says that santorrum was one of the boys and went along to get along here in -- here in washington, when he was a congressman and a senator. so he's saying, we are two very different conservatives. >> >> shannon: in light of a lot of international breaking news, husenator john mccain on as well. >> chris: terrible story today that a u.s. soldier, apparently in the middle of the night, left his base, his camp in southern afghanistan, kandahar and shot up a village and apparently killed unconfirmed reports more than a dozen afghan civilians. i talked with senator mccain about that. he is very much a defender of the -- of the u.s. mission there and he says, this is terrible. the difference is that -- al

qaeda and the taliban do this kind of thing for a living. here, it's an aberration and it shouldn't stop us from continuing to -- to complete the mission in afghanistan, which is to stand up the afghan government and military against the taliban and al qaeda. i will say, newt gingrich took a very different position and in effect said, this may not be doable. >> shannon: well, a show full of news and a panel. and a special award for you this week. congratulations, and we will have more on that on the show today. >> chris: thank you. >> shannon: you can catch chris's complete interviews right after our show, at 2:00 and 6:00 eastern. >> seven pleading guilt tow seven acts of violation, for spending campaign monopersonal items will he has paid a $48,000 fine for buying clothes,

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>> there is a showdown in texas over millions in federal funds for low-income women's health care. the state has adopted regulations that ban taxpayer money from going to clinics or groups that provide abortions. the federal government is warning texas that if planned parenthood is excluded from funding, they could lose millions in federal funding. how is this playing out? >> it's playing out, actually, the state is want going to let down 100,000-plus women. on friday, governor perry stated we will find the money. so the women will have access to health care. i think it's important to note that planned parenthood is only 2% of the health care providers

for this medicaid population. there is about 2500 providers in about 4600 locations and we are confident that the women will get the essential health care that they need. >> shannon: we are talking about cancer screening, wellness exams and birth control and other issues. but there are worries that because texas has had a budget crunch that the money won't be available. where will the governor, the legislators find the money? >> well, the money is still within health & human services bfnlg they do have the money. they have to move it to another state agency and the commissioner has stated that he already has the money. there will not be any fail tower provide service for the programs. >> shannon: how do you respond to the federal government saying that texas is now playing pol ticks with the lives and health care of the women who need it most, those who are making less than $25,000 a year or a family making less than $41,000?

>> i would say they are flat wrong. we have just stated that we have the money. we are going on provide the service. it is not about health care. it is actually about the 10th amendment and the states rights. there is a very clear unequivocal statute which does not perm a state agency to provide mon tote 2% of they are finding ways to be sure that the women -- since the obama administration wanted to cut off the health care -- we will provide it. >> shannon: any chance that texas would consider a lawsuit against the feds if they withhold the $35 million? >> well, according to the letter that i have seen, obviously, we hope for a negotiated result here. but i think that the state would take this thing to the courts to insure that our rights under the 10th amendment and under the social security act are upheld in the state. >> shannon: do you see this as a bigger overall fight with the administration, when it comes to issue it's we know that there are specifically, of course, as any candidate would want to

do -- want to appeal to women and very much focused on the women's issues recently. do you think this is an appropriate focus for the administration to draw the line and say we want to make sure that women have access to everything, including planned parenthood? >> we want women to have access to health care, we are providing t. but it is part of a larger issue. we're seeing incredible federal encroachments under the endangered species act and the clean water act, telling the agencies they don't have the authority to do the activity its had been delegated. s on the a much broader agend a. the state of texas is not one f. >> shannon: thank you so much for your time today. we prec it. >> thank you. >> shannon: stories of home foreclosures have become all too common. but now we are hearing that the banks are foreclosing on churches in record numbers as well. brenda butt nir has more on

this. >> reporter: hi, shannon. you might think that houses of god could get a bit of a break from banks in foreclosure. but think again. the churches are facing foreclose nur record numbers. according to reuters, which went through the records of real estate informs company, in the last 2 years, nearly 300 churches were sold, after defaulting on loans. 9 out of 10 of them, after the lender put them in foreclosure. in contrast, only 24 had been sold in 2008. as with traditional house, churches are hardest hit in the states that are homes to the foreclosure crisis, such as florida and california, with small to medium religious institutions, the biggest victim. this,al churches do not typically take out residential 30-year mortgages, but more often take out commercial loans. of late, banks have been more stringent in refinancing those type of loans when they come due unless the organizations can

present very clean balance sheets. but with the church members unable to provide the do nawgzs they once could, many houses of worship are unable to fund the additional loans to renovate or refurnish their structures. some now face balloons at the end of their loans. that's when they have a loan that's packaged with low interest rates and small capital payments. then upon maturation, a huge balloon is due. few churches with diminishing sources of revenue can afford to pay and face an auction of the property n. one way, this seems heartless, the eviction and foreclosure to be an end to a house of worship. but as churches try to expand through the credit bubble, banks argue they must be responsible for what follows. one thing for sure, this will do little to help the reputation of banks, now vilified by many americans for extra fees and

making big profits. shannon? >> shannon: thank you, brenda. all right. retired corp rule leavy is looking forward to reuniting with a dog who wont more than 100 migs with her, leading the search for ied explosives, with her dog, sergeant rex. both were injured by an ied and they have retired. now, megan wants to adopt the german sheppard, but can't seem to get through the military red tape. >> the marine corps with the military, this is not their first priority. so a lot of time, it is lost in the shuffle. >> shannon: the sergeant is getting help from washington with senator chuck schumer. it's just a sploa bureaucracy. a military spokesman said it will take two weeks to process the official request and determine if rex is fit for adoption. we wish them the best. the u.s. military has developed

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ist senior u.s. officials are investigating reports that a u.s. soldier opened fire on afghan civilians outside of his base. he allegedly killed as many as 16 afghan, including women and children. president obama has been briefed. and general john allen will speak to the afghan president. mitt romney has called it aan ooh way game. kansas, state lawmakers are at a standoff over guns on campus. at issue, the state's personal and family protection act. part of the bill would have allowed guns on college campuses. but various heads of officials swayed lawmakers to strike that provision from the bill. some student groups are not

happy. they will take a final vote on it tomorrow. the u.s. has developed a new nonlethal weapon, aimed at controlling crowds and potentially defending buildings and military bases. peter doocy went to quantico to check it out. >> reporter: you cant see it, here it or smell it, but it makes unruly mobs do this. the defense department's active denial system, to be used to control crowds, control perimeters and keep pirates at bay. >> we can shoot first and ask questions later. normally, you can't do that. >> reporter: the military says the active denial system is not radioactive, it is not a microwave or a laser beam. it's a man-sized beam of waves that can be sent from a thousand meters away, designed to get the suspect really, really hot so that they move.

it's aboutivity degrees, but it telt felt like it was a thousand. vinever been inside a tub that somebody dropped a hair dryer in, but that's what it would feel like. 164th everyone of my skin was 130 degrees, but as soon as i stepped away, it was over. the d.o.t. says there are no longirring effects. >> there is no cancer risk. there is no risk to a fetus or reproductive capability. it is just heat. >> reporter: they atd mitt that the system does have a drawbake back. >> we are propagating true the air, so we are relatively line of sight. so we need to be line of sight. >> reporter: a prototype costs $10 million and there are no plans to deploy one any time soon. in quantico, virginia, peter doocy, fox news.

they say that they tested this on 11,000 people and there were only 2 injuries that whole time, and it was people who were over-exposed. so nobody has died from this. >> shannon: were you worried that you might be one of the two. >> reporter: when have you to sign like three pages of papers and do some initialing, as well, saying that the government is not responsible if anything does happen to you. but it is, even though you know it is non-lethal, it's very strange because with no warning, you would go from your normal body temperature to 130 and that's -- you are hot. >> you can't see a laser beam or anything. >> they use it on crowds. all of a sudden, they realize they near a great deal of pain. >> reporter: right. we were in a completely open field at a firing range. we could hardly even see it at 3,000 meterasway. >> shannon: thank you for taking one for the team, peter.

>> reporter: any time. >> mitt romney says that the delegate math riewp proves he is the only one who can win. but rick santorum doesn't think mitt can close the deal. senator santorum is live on the campaign trail, coming up. a new documentary calls for black americans to join the conservative movement. >> when people find out i'm a conservative, i get a lot of hate mail and i get called a sellout and uncle tom. we will talk to the man behind this documentary, a little bit later in the show. ng that flu all over your body? immerse yourself in all over relief with alka seltzer plus. it's specially formulated to speed relief to every inch of you. liquidate your flu symptoms with alka seltzer plus. you noticed! these clothes are too big, so i'm donating them. how'd you do it? eating right, whole grain. [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who don't.

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>> foot stamp fraud can be tough to stop, so lawmakers are looking for new ways to stop the abuse and save your tax dollars. here's more. >> reporter: among fraudulent food stamp recipients, a couple in washington state living in a 1.2 million dollar home, 30,000 college students on the food stamp rolls in michigan, and wisconsin beneficiaries selling their cards on facebook. witnesses today sought to assure oversight house committee members that food stamp fraud is actually decreasing. >> they've dropped to an alternate time low record of less than 1%, is that right? >> reporter: still, the fraud has gotten more sophisticated, moving away from the petty crimes of coupon days to more elaborate schemes in return for

unauthorized goods. >> a recipient goes to a restaurant or bar and the restaurant or bar would go to a grocery store and buy, say, $200 groceries. they would buy them for the bar or restaurant and give the recipient, half, 75%, you know, something off of the ebt card. >> reporter: the fraught tends to prolive rate in mom and pop stores. the more sold, the more likely hood of fraud even when the fraud is investigated and shut down. they're often reopened by family and friends with the same person using a fraudulent application. even so, tougher enforcement in some areas presents its own problems. >> you really want to shut down the only source of groceries in a neighborhood, i think you've got to be very careful about that. >> reporter: the larger problems, say critics is the expansion of the program itself. in 1970, one in five americans participated, today one in seven do. the more they crack down on the fraud, fiewr the fewer federal s

they receive. shannon? >> a u.s. soldier stands accused of going on a shooting rampage in southern afghanistan. allegedly killing more than a dozen afghan civilians including women and children. the soldier reportedly left his base early this morning and opened fire in a nearby town. afghan president is calling the attack an assassination. president obama has been briefed and is said to be deeply concerned. tensions are high, and there are new concerns that new violence may break out. i'm shannon bream. we begin hour two with conner powell in afghanistan. hello. >> reporter: afghan officials say of the 16 dead, nine were children, three were women. this is an incident that the united states has condemned. they've apologized to afghan officials, but they want answers. they want an investigation and want to know how this happened. there's fear, of course, this will lead to the type of protests and violence we saw

after the koran burning just a few weeks ago. the u.s. military says it was a lone soldier who left the base sometime around 3:00 this morning. he went into homes just outside the base in the village where this base is located in kandahar district and kicked down the doors and began shooting at afghan civilians, went into multiple houses, then returned to the base where he was arrested and detained by u.s. police officers and u.s. military. the military says they're not looking for other shooters. there had been reports in local media that there were multiple shooters. right now u.s. and nato officials are saying there was just 1 lone shooter. this does raise the problem that we've seen here in the past few weeks of the distrust that is growing between u.s. and afghan officials. u.s. officials have made a real effort here in the past couple weeks to try to rebuild the bridges that were burned after the koran burning incident, but it is this type of incident that only does more damage to those sort of trust issues that have

appeared here in the past few weeks, and there's real fear in the next couple of days as this begins to percolate out into the afghan population through media that we will see large protests today and tomorrow and going forward to the rest of the week. right now u.s. officials are trying to get ahead of this by apologize, by condemning it. right now there's a real feel, shannon, there will be more violence and anger for the next few days. >> conor paul wit powell with tt from afghanistan. the un envoy is opt mistake after two days of meetings with the syrian president assad. the yo united nations said many have been killed. asaid has rejected negotiations because he blames terrorist rebel groups for the violence. turning now to the campaign

trail, mitt romney and rick santorum have gained some momentum heading into the southern primaries. romney picked up 38 delegates saturday with wins in several u.s. territories and wisconsin. that brings his told to 454 delegates. rick santorum ha added 33 delegs from kansas. newt gingrich stands at 107. ron paul has 47. a candidate has to get to 1,144 delegates to win the g.o.p. nomination. and recent polls show it's going to be a close race in both mississippi and alabama this week. former house speaker newt gingrich and former senator rick santorum made stops on the sunday shows to talk about strategies for the southern states. receive sensteve sentsteve cent. >> reporter: newt gingrich needs to perform well in two southern state primaries, alabama and mississippi, or it could become difficult for him to continue in the g.o.p. race, but that is not the way gingrich was talking this morning on ""fox news sunday"". >> i think we'll win both. we're exaipg very aggressive --

campaigning very aggressively in both states. you start behind because of romney's money and the length of time he's advertising, and you catch up with him pretty rapidly. i think we're probably pulling ahead in both states now. >> reporter: rick santorum is doing well in the latest polls which show him neck and neck with newt gingrich in alabama and running second to mitt romney in mississippi. he points out that romney for all his big spending is still pulling out narrow wins in some key states while his campaign, operating on a relative shoestripping, hashoestring, ha. >> we've got grassroots support. we've been slowly crawling our way back, clawing our way back in the race. we're in a great position as we go forward with states that are very favorable to us, favorable areas of the country. i've got my home state yet to go. governor romney has - has had tf his home states already.

>> reporter: romney has no appearances but he's hoping to pick up mississippi in tuesday's voting. he's way ahead in the delegate count with twice as many as santorum. all three candidates with a chance on tuesday, all stepping up their television advertising in these final days before the votes in alabama and mississippi, shannon. >> steve, thank you very much. >> you bet. so does rick santorum think that tuesday's primaries are a must-win for him? we're going to ask him at 1:30 live, plus, he's going to answer some of your twitter questions you've been sending in. keep them coming and maybe your question will be asked on the air. well, president obama is looking to capture the attention of women voters this week. on wednesday he'll address nurses to talk headlight care reform. peter doocy has more. >> reporter: very interesting. tomorrow, a million pieces of mail are going to be sent out to three groups, moms, young women, and old women, and it's going to be part of a push by the obama campaign to make sure females vote for the president in november which the majority of

them did in 2008, and we heard a little bit of the president's new pitch to women on friday. >> women deserve an equal day's pay for an equal day's work. our daughters should be treated just the same and have the same opportunities as our sons. >> reporter: the democrats' new push is going to focus on health care because as the republican pollster pointed out in yesterday's "new york times", women 30 to 55 are the care givers, and as we approach the two-year anniversary of the affordable care act becoming law on march 23rd, democrats want to make sure that women support the health care overhaul and while the left and the right disagree about how hard the president needs to make his case, both sides acknowledge that women are key. >> the president at this moment doesn't have to do much selling at all. the republicans are already driving women towards the president's camp. >> women are the ultimate swing

voter. they're less rigid and make practicing ipragmatic decisionst comes to who to vote for. in 2008 they voted for president obama. >> reporter: the president won't be permanently involved in the million mailings tomorrow but keep an eye on his campaign stops in chicago and atlanta this weekend to see how he adjusts his pitch. shannon. >> peter doocy, thank you so much. the folks hoping to go up head to head with the president, both gingrich and santorum, are hoping to win over social conservatives in the south this week while mitt romney is trying to make minimum minimums himsel. joining us to talk about it is a former george bush political director and a former national finance director for the dnc. welcome to you both. >> great to be here. >> two big contests. we have to mention. hawaii and some other states have caucuses this week. let's talk about alabama and mississippi, matt. if romney is to win both of those states, does he silence

his critics saying hey, i've won in the south, i've won in the country, i'm the guy. >> he has to get a win in mississippi or alabama to make that claim. most of the apology shows it's a third, a third, a third between gingrich, santorum, and romney which kind of makes the case for this if there wasn't two conservatives against him or two alternatives against him, would he be able to be as successful. in other words, are people on the other side to romney kind of splitting up that vote. i think it's a critical day for him on tuesday. >> that makes the point, david, that there are a lot of calls this week for gingrich to drop out. just as in the past there have been calls for sat rum to drop up. there's a lot talk about those two camps going against romney with one candidate leading the charge. if gingrich doesn't win alabama or mississippi, do you think he will drop out? his folks have said he's staying until august. what do you think his appetite will be for that. >> it puts greater pressure on him but at the same time he's declared on another chaj he's

staying -- channel he's staying in the race all the way to the end. >> you watch other channels? >> only to get perspective. i think the big picture here is not just the horse race between these three candidates but the bigger picture of what's happening with the votes overall. i think if you look at the rush limbaugh situation and what's going on with this campaign, they're losing more voters than they are gaining voters going into the general election. they're losing latino votes. they're losing women votes as we saw with rush limbaugh and the loolack of a resolute response m mitt romney to the comments rush limbaugh made. so the more, in fact speaking to romney, that he's in the race, the less favorable ratings he has, and the more unfavorable ratings he has. that's the big picture here. >> i'm going to take issue with some of those statements. >> it's sunday, so i'll say that's malarkey.

both rick santorum and mitt romney would beat obama if the election were today. there are polls that have shown that ron paul recently would best obama. obama's numbers have been under 50 for almost the last year. >> not in the swing states, though, ohio and virginia among others. >> well, you can try. you can try. >> look. with romney letting ron paul get 40% of the vote with virginia, that's saying something. that's a little weakness there. >> i don't think the virginia result was a great result for mitt romney, but the point is this. this election's going to be about president obama's weak economic successes or lack thereof. we're all for america. we want people to go to work. the fact is if you look at the numbers, this republican contest is resulting in poll after poll that continues to show obama is weak and that both rick santorum and mitt romney can beat him. >> we want you to think that. >> you mentioned virginia. you know, there were only two on

the ballot there, but it was a 60-40 split with romney and paul, a lot closer than some thought it would be. something struck me in a lot of the southern polls. there are so many undecided. one of the polls shows 29% of people still undecided. a week out, how come the southern voters are not get convinced about who to vote for? >> they're looking to close the deal. we saw it in ohio where it was neck and neck, and voters still undecided. you're seeing that in illinois. 46% of the vote in illinois could change what we currently see in the polls right now among the three candidates, and so everybody's got to take -- not take one vote for granted or one day for granted in trying to get those committed votes. >> all right. david and matt, we thank you both for being so civil on a sunday. stop watching other channels. david, thank you very much. we appreciate it. georgia legislators are trying to reverse a court decision over using tax dollars to build charter schools. a fair and balanced look at

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>> shannon: senior u.s. officials are investigating reports that a u.s. soldier opened fire on afghan civilians outside his base in southern afghanistan. the soldier allegedly killed as many as 16 civilians afghans including women and children. president obama has been briefed on the incident. we now have a statement from the white house that reads we are deeply concerned about the initial reports of this incident and are monitoring the situation closely. more disturbing rhetoric from iranian president ahmadinejad. he said his country is not afraid of military action from the west. there's been concern by israel that the u.s. isn't taking the at least a nuclear bomb seriously enough out of iran. earlier i talked to israeli ambassador to the u.s., michael oren, who said in the case of iran, actions may speak louder than words. >> there's some time but not much time left. we have been warning about the iranian nuclear program now for 20 years. we've been very patient through ten years of diplomacy, six

years of sanctions. we've said again and again we need crippling sanctions with a credible military theft. that's what got ca d moammar qai to give up. it's important for them to believe it. >> last week a group of countries including the u.s. accepted iran' iran's offer forh talk on the nuclear program. in georgia lawmakers are at odds over a new charter school bill that will allow for charter schools to be built in areas where school boards have previously rejected them. we're live with the story in atlanta. this would help create competition in education, but a lot of folks sound like they're opposed. >> reporter: absolutely. it passed in the georgia house. we're waiting word in the senate. georgia lawmakers are trying to get more control in the classroom. this particular piece of legislation would make it legal for the state to create charter schools even if local school

boards had already rejected previous applications, and the reason it would set national precedent is because last year the georgia supreme court in a 4-3 ruling said that this state-formed commission had the power to create these state schools and that it was overreaching. therefore, making it illegal. we know opponents argue the bill would take away local control from local school boards, and they also say it would siphon money from public schools to charter schools. here's tim callahan. >> we've got some school systems, particularly in rural georgia, that aret that are teen the edge of bankruptcy, worrying about whether they can make payroll at the end of the month. they're not able to withstand an charter school drawing off some of their students, taking both state and local dollars. they would, i would imagine, fall into a bankrupt situation. >> reporter: supporters down in the capital obviously disagree. they say charter schools

translate to added innovation, community involvement, and as you mentioned, shannon. competition. they believe charters are allowed the same access to state, local, and federal funding. here's the other side of the story. listen here. >> charter schools are part of an overall tool in the tool box for education reform. it, along with a myriad of other programs, is extremely important in terms of giving parents and students greater choice in what is the best education for a particular child. it also encourages education achievement and education success along the way. it creates innovation. >> reporter: to put this all in perspective, there's about 24 states across the u.s. that have these state-funded charter schools and 15 of the 24 are guaranteed access to local funding. shannon? >> al >> shannon: all right, elizabeth. thanks very much. talk about a close call.

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>> shannon: a u.s. soldier is being held in afghanistan, accused of opening fire on civilians, by some reports

killing up to 16 people. the white house is expressing concern over the incident which is likely to inflame tensions between the two countries. it's the bottom the hour. peter doocy is standing by with some of your top stories. >> reporter: an investigation into the shooting is ongoing, but officials say the soldier left base and opened fire on afghan civilians in their homes. it's not clear what his motive was or if the soldier knew any of the victims. afghan president karzai said 16 people were killed, nine children, three women. the u.s. embassy in kabul released a statement confirming the attack and offering condolences to the victims' families. 90 delegates are at stake in alabama and mississippi on tuesday. polls show close raises in both states. the girl scouts are celebrating their 100th anniversary this weekend. more than 3,000 girls are getting together in sacrifice havsavannah,georgia, the birth e girl scouts. if you want the new ipad, you have to be patient. apple is sold out of the ipad

3 in every country it will launch in on friday, even if you preordered. you're still going t to have to wait. apple said the devices won't ship until march 19th, three days after they hit shelves. those are the top stories right now, shannon. back to you. >> peter, thanks very much. >> shannon: well, the idea of a possible military attack on israel or by israel or the u.s. on iran because of its nuclear program has a lot of folks in washington on edge, but many republicans say a threat of war could persuade iranians to abandon their nuclear ambitions. fox newschannel's chief white house correspondent ed helpry has more. >> reporter: it turns out israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu brought a gift to president obama with a not so subtle message, the book of esther which tells the story of jews fighting off the genocidal plot by persians. he said this was background reading for the president on the current nuclear threat from iran which the prime minister

hammered home in an exclusive interview with fox. >> it's something that must be stopped. sometimes people don't see a danger coming at them until it materializes. >> reporter: this comes as the president appears to be backsliding ever so slightly from a sunday declaration that netanyahu pounced on monday in the oval office. >> the american policy you reiterated yesterday in your speech that israel must have the ability always to defend itself by itself against any threat. >> reporter: by tuesday in a solo news conference, the president was edging away from the declaration by suggesting that support did not mean he's giving israel a green light to launch a unilateral strike. >> it was not a military doctrine that we were laying out for any particular military action. >> reporter: republican leaders, however, think the threat of war may convince the iranians to give up their nuclear ambitions. >> that would be to debate on a

resolution authorizing the use of force. that doesn't guarantee that force would be used but it certainly would be a credible step. >> reporter: democrats are joining the president in insisting everyone should calm down. >> i'm not going to be part of arrushing forward on a declaratn of war. these are things that have to be done very, very cautiously. >> reporter: as netanyahu returned home to celebrate tonight's start, he celebrated the book of esther. he said jews now have some important allies. >> we have very many friends that stand at our side and will do so at all times. >> reporter: the prime minister got more fodder today when unnamed diplomats toll the associated press that satellite images show officials cleaning up a site including a trigger that could set off a nuclear blast. at the white house, ed henry, fox news.

>> shannon: fresh off a big win in kansas and facing two key contests in alabama and mississippi, how is rick santorum planning to win over southern voters and fend off attacks from his rivals. rick santorum joins us live from the campaign trail in mississippi. senator, welcome. >> well, it's great to be at the home of elvis here in tupelo, mississippi. >> it's a fun place. i want to start off by giving you a chance to respond to some of the incoming attacks from your rivals this week. we'll start with newt gingrich, the former speak of the house that is pointing to your record on the hill and saying it's full of earmarks and overspending. here's a little of what he has tto say this week. >> santorum's a good friend of mine, but he was part of the team that got fired in 2006 because they didn't get it. the fact is i led the only effort in your lifetime to balance the federal budget for four straight years, and you look at what we did to control spending and what sent rum's

team did to raise spending. >> shannon: all right, senator, how do you respond? >> well, he was only there for two of the four years. i was there for all four years. number one. number two, he was fired at the beginning of that process. conservatives led a revolution against him that eventually threw him the speakership. this is rewriting history, and this is unfortunately desperate attack. if you look at my record, it's one that has entitlement reform, welfare rorm i was the author of. i authored landmark legislation to try to replace government run health care, something that both newt gingrich and mitt romney supported a federally mandated health care system like barack obama has put in place. they are uniquely disqualified from taking on the most important issue of the day, and that is the government control of health care, the government control of people's lives, the huge expansion of the federal government, and mitt romney authored the template in massachusetts, and newt gingrich

supported it for 20 years. i have been a free market health care guy, less government, not top down which those two represent. >> shannon: all right. let's talk about mitt romney. he and his campaign have had plenty to say about you this week. they say you have the inability to mattly pick up another delegates. he said tiewrp tuesda super tued the dr likelihood of any of governor romney's opponents to on the the nomination. they're increasing president obama's odds. >> that's pathetic, isn't it? now you're going to make the argue i shouldn't be president because of math. this is a campaign. this is a guy, mitt romney, who can't make the case as to what he wants to do to change this country, has put forth weak proposals, one after another, and he is uniquely disqualified

on the most important issues of the day, obama care, cap and trade. he was for cap and trade, instituted the first carbon cap in the country. when the climate changed, and now cap and trade wasn't popular, well, guess what? governor romney did the same thing, he changed. just lining th like when the cle changed, all of a sudden governor romney is the strongest guy against it and went out and misrepresented his position on the issue repeatedly throughout the course of the debates. they cannot make the case that they are the best person to beat barack obama on the issues, so they're resorting to fuzzy math. let me assure you. there are plenty of delegates out there. there are lots of uncommitted delegates. governor romney's delegate count in arizona and florida is if a fallacious. he won't get all the delegates he says he has in his pocket. we're in the process of coming up with states much more favorable to me like kansas was yesterday. as this race goes on, we'll be the tomorrow knee, and this play

well, i have the most money and the most staff hasn't gotten him anything so far. neither will the fuzzy math help him. >> senator, congratulations by the way, on your big win in kansas. >> thank you. >> we promised our folks if they tweeted in questions, we would ask you some of their twitter questions. i'll start with one i'm sort of biased. i feel the composition of the supreme court is critical. what are you looking for in your nominee? >> well, the amazing thing, there's great difference between me and governor romney. romney appointed dozens, dozens of left wing radical judges, liberal activist judges to the court in massachusetts. he said oh, i had to. no, you don't have to. you can stand tall and you can nominate if you're the governor and you can fight for nomination. he did not. he has the worst record on judges of anybody on the

republican side running for president, maybe in history, and i'm someone who brought the issue of judgeships to the floor. i led the charge to get president bush's nominees here in the state of alabama, next door, bill prior who was being filibustered by the democrats. i joined with jeff sessions to make sure he was confirmed. go down the long list. priscilla owen in texas. we took the battle to the democrats when they were going to shut them down as they had in the past. when i was in that leadership. i said we're not going to do that any more. we're going to try to break the filibusters. i was up doing press conferences through the night. i took the issue on. it's the reason weebl able to hold -- we were able to hold onto the house and senate in some of the mid term years. nno one will be stronger on judges than i am and no one weaker with a horrible record of appointing liberal activist judges than mitt romney. >> because issues of life are so important to you, would you have a litmus test for a supreme

court nominee? >> i'll have a litmus test that she that follow the constitution, period. they should be originalists, and they should not put their values in the constitution. they should not import international treaties or international conventions into our constitution. they should look at our founders and the vision that made this country the greatest country in the history of the world. >> another quick question. would you consider allen west or newt gingrich to be your vp should you win the nomination? >> i'm sure we'll have a very long list. here's what i'll consider. i'll put someone as our running meamate who shares values that i do, who i am convinced will follow through with exactly what i promisedd american public i would do. that's my only criteria, and i'm sure there are a lot of good folks out there who might meet that criteria. >> former senator rick santorum in the hunt for the g.o.p. nomination. sir, thank you for your time, best wishes on the trail this week. >> thanks so much, shannon. we're having fun.

>> shannon: it's at the heart of a battle over the health care law, an advisory board that could get all the power to make decisions about who and what gets medicare funding. now there's a bi-partisan push on the hill to repeal that board. a fair and balanced debate from both sides next. last weekend we told you about those tough cookies, a group of girl scouts who got robbed and fought back. you're going to want to hear this update ... next.

>> shannon: it may sound like a new apple product, but ipad is at the heart of a highly charged battle over med ceer. it's tucked into the president's health care law and could have unprecedented authority to make decisions about which costs medicare will and will not

cover. last week the house ways and means committees passed a resolution that would do away withiswith ipad. thanks for joining us, gentlemen. >> good morning. >> thank you. >> shannon: congressman, mcdermott, i want to start with you. this was approved with a voice vote. i don't exactly know who was for and against it. it wasn't recorded. what's your position on this repeal? >> i'm opposed to repeeling it. it is a pr device developed by the republican party to create fear about the affordable care act which is going to be argued in the supreme court in about two weeks, so they really brought this up. it has no effect for the next ten years. the cbo has told us that it will have no effect whatsoever until 2022, so there's no pressure here. there's no real problem. most of what you will hear is really to make voters afraid of the affordable care act.

it's not anything to do with the major part of the bill. >> shannon: what we're talking about as a board that would be appointed by the board but had to be approved by the senate. they would make decisions if medicare cost overruns hit a certain point. >> let me correct you. >> shannon: okay. congressman mcdermott. >> you can't say it would make decisions. it would make recommendations to the congress. the congress could vote yes or no, so this idea that we've given away all our control simply is not true. >> shannon: okay. if you don't approve those, the cuts have to come from somewhere, so in some way those decisions would kick in. >> they would kick in if the congress didn't act, but the congress is saying we're not able to make -- we can't make decisions. that's why we're afraid of this board doing it for us. >> shannon: okay. >> that's what the republicans are saying. >> shannon: congressman paulson, this board would have powers. what are your concerns about how that power may be used? >> well, absolutely. this is going to be 15

unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats that will have the authority to deny payments to physicians or care for seniors. this has strong bi-partisan support. i expect as it passed in our committee last week it will as well pass in the house in the near future. the bottom line is we need to make sure that we as elected officials are serving our medicare beneficiaries, those who elect us, rather than giving bureaucrats or unelected burr accurates thelected burraccurato this. we should not be doing that. >> congressman paulsen, there's a cbo report saying if you do repeal ipad, it will add a cost of $3.1 billion to the deficit over the next decade. how do you take care of that? will there be an offset in the bill? how do you account for the added cost? >> there will be an offset included in the bill before we vote o on it on the house floria because that's what the rules require. we've had offsets for obama care. it might be medical malpractice

reform, it may be something else. we're going to for sure have an offset and do health care in the right way for the patient center and doctor-patient relationship. >> shannon: congressman mcdermott, a u number of congressman have signed on in support of this. what do you think ultimately happens when it gets to the house floor? >> i think mr. paulsen is correct. it may well pass, but it will die in the senate because it makes no senate. when you talk about health care reform in the country, you have to talk about two things. one is access and the other is controlling costs. this was put in by the senate because they see it as a reasonable way to control costs in the future in 2022. remember, this is 2022, ten years from now. this is going to come into effect. my view is that you cannot talk honestly with the american people about health care delivery if you do not control the cost. you can't just say we're going to spend everything. we're already spending twice such as they are spending in

france and switzerland and germany, and we don't have the health care system that they have, so it's simply got to be done. we have to talk about cost control. >> shannon: there are a lot of tough decisions along the way. congressman paulsen, congressman mcde mcdermott, we'll watch this. thank you both for your time. >> thank you. >> shannon: how he resolved his inner conflicts. we'll talk to the reverend c.l. bryant, the man behind a powerful document that some say is very controversy. that's next. [ male announcer ] chicken broccoli alfredo. mushroom smothered beef burgers. hearty chicken and noodle casserole. so easy, you just need campbell's cream of mushroom soup to make them and a hungry family to love them. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. you noticed!

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>> shannon: a look now at sop of your top headlines. a u.s. soldier allegedly opened fire outside a base in kandahar. there are reports that 1 people, including -- 16 people including women and children were killed. president karzai is demanding an explanation for what he's calling an assassination of innocent civilians. two big political contests in the deep south. romney has called it an away game, but a poll shows he's ahead in mississippi and putting up a fight in alabama. hawaii holds caucuses on

tuesday. a florida seventh grader failed three classes, check this out, as punishment, his father administered a dose of humiliation. he forced the boy to wear this cardboard sign at an intersection. it said hey, is it wrong to want to be a class wrong? he said he doesn't want him to drop out and be another statistic. we're still divided. the question has to be why. >> with all the rumbling that's going on in our nation right now, i've got to find out if there's other people in this country that feel the same way that i do. >> shannon: he calls himself a run away slave, it's also the title of his new documentary, the reverend c.l. bryant saying it's time to break free of civil welfare programs. they tell us why this project is so important. gentlemen, welcome to you both. >> good morning.

>> thank you, shannon. >> reverend, i want to start with you. how do you respond to those who say they're offended by the usage or imagery or language of talking about slavery in this context? >> everyone who has gained freedom in this country has had to run away from the tyranny of being inslaifd to something, whether it was king george or the plantation. everyone who has truly enjoyed the fruit of america has had to run towards that and embrace it and claim it as their own. >> dave, you're part of this documentary as well, and you're a popular radio show host. what do you hear from your callers about the issue? >> the fact is the reverend is right about this. i want to add something else to this. it's about making a choice, shannon. that's something that americans, it's part of our culture. you should make a choice and you should also be unpredict al. my message to the black

community, any community, any group in america is be unpredictable or you become a tool of the political parties on either side. let them earn your vote, but do that under the american model which is freedom, free markets, free enterprise. the rugged individualism and the opportunity and the equality of access that we have as americans, that is what is key. that's what i hear from my listeners. that's what i talk to people about around the country, and that's what we do as americans and we become successful that way. >> shannon: reverend, do you think that the black community has an awareness of this power that david mentions, to be its own independent political force and not to necessarily link up with just one particular viewpoint or party? >> if the black community would understand that the perils and the trials that our people have gone through in this country to get to where we are today was not so that we could be black but so that we could be free, i think an entirely different

attitude toward america would then evolve, and that's what this movie is about. it's about making us understand that particular idea and then changing the conversation of race in this country. not only are we fleeing economic slavery and running toward the blessings of liberty, but we're fleeing a mindset that has entrapped and enslaved a group of people. if we're not careful, it will entrap and enslave us all. >> reporter: reverend, do you feel you're getting a good response, that there's growth of conservatives among the black community? is that the intent of the over y'alall documentary? >> this will give many black people conservative at their core a chance to come out of the closet, so to speak. so many black folks at their core are conservatives and always have been, but for some, by buying into the progressive liberal idea and agenda, they feel as though they can't speak

as free-thro freely as their hed allow them to. >> shannon: david, do you feel like folks are getting a different voice? do you feel your lift inc lift s are feeling more el boldened and that there are more options than they traditionally thought. >> as someone who always was a conservative, i remember going back to my very first vote in the 1980s. it's not about just identifying yourself. it's about really realizing who you are, deciding who you are, finding what values fit. we're a center right nation. we're a nation based on a very simple principle of opportunity, freedom. a limited effective constitutional government. our institutions have failed us. it's the rise of the at a party movement, something of which i'm one of the original founders. it's the rise of not just the black community's conservetism, but the american rebirth of true

conservative values, true traditional values. this is how we succeed. we can no longer be told this is your narrative, this is your narrative, this is who you are. this is not just about the black community. it's been generational theft of opportunity, generational theft of upward mobility. as i talk to my 25-year-old producer tproducer today on thee says i'm looking at the future and i want it, and i'm willing to do anything to get to it, but many of my peers won't. they're disenfranchised and disenchanted and they're locked out of opportunity in the country. >> shannon: david webb and reverend c.l. bryant, thank you so much for your time. a fascinating documentary. thank you, gentlemen. >> thank you, shannon. >> shannon: good news for a group of girl scouts we told you about last week. an update right after the break. ok! who gets occasional constipation,

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