in. huckabee with rick santorum now. tonight on huckabee, he's running for president. she's raising their seven kids while supporting his run. rick and karen santorum on how they manage to maintain family life during the campaign. and ... i've met parents like david mcarthur. >> the father of a wounded veteran on the reaction he got to this question. >> sir, will you look me in the eye and tell me who will be taking care of him? plus, our panel of voters on what's happened since forum 3? then, to keep things quick and quiet, he plans to beat her brains out with a claw hammer. >> former soprano star spills the beans on real life assassins. ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee!

>> thank you. thank you very much. welcome to huckabee from the fox news studios in new york city. well, it turns out that some really stupid things are happening in our country, and they aren't all happening in congress. in my home state of arkansas, paul crowder of forest city was being celebrated as catching the new state record large mouth bass, 16 pounds and 5 ounces, but it turns out he bought his fishing license three hours after he caught the big fish. so instead of having a state fishing record, he might end up with a different kind of record. in fact, he's facing a $1,000 fine and 30 days in jail. he's not getting credit for the cash h. he didn't even get to keep the fish. we heard an aw in the audience. somebody is really sad. in another moment of unchecked

stupidity, a tsa officer didn't like that a passenger was traveling with an empty breast pump. that's right. you usually get in trouble for bringing liquids through the security line. this genius was upset because the breast pump bottles were empty, so the officer ordered amy strand to go to a public restroom and then in front of other people coming in and out of the restroom, she had to pump milk from her breast to prove that the pump was what it was. the tsa officer who was forced to apologize proved what he was. to quote that great american fill loss ferflossphilosopher fd is as stupid does. holder seemed more disturbed by commissioner kelly's attempts

to prevent terrorism than he was to take responsibility for a program run by his department called fast and furious that put illegal guns in the hands of mexican drug lords and resulted in the murder of an american border agent. and finally, there's the really stupid vote of the senate this week to kill a bill by senator tom coburn which would have implemented a government accounting office recommendation that would have eliminated $10 billion of duplicative government programs. sounds real simple. a government agency finds $10 billion of pure waste of your money, and recommends we turn off the leaky faucet. the senate's response? defeat the bill and turn the spigots on full, and that is stupid. comedian ron white has it right when he says this. >> you can't fix stupid. >> that's right, ron. you can't fix stupid. and you know, in most cases, you really can't, but when stupid gets elected, you can fix it.

you can vote stupid out and send him home. there is an election coming up, and i think it's time to fix stupid. [ cheers and applause ] >> well, that's my view. and i welcome yours. you can get a hold of me. contact me at mikehuckabee.com. click on the fox needs feedback section. you can sign up on my facebook page, post your comments on the wall. follow me on twitter. all of that information is at mikehuckabee.com. a reminder. paper back edigits of my -- edition of my new book, a stupid government -- i mean a simple government. i'm writing about the one we wish we had, not the one we've got. it's in paper back, a "new york times" best seller. copies available at book stores and amazon.com. during last week's huckabee special forum, a small business owner dave mcarthur asked

presidential candidate mitt romney a question that turned heads. >> my son received a traumatic brain injury wound in afghanistan and suffers from severe post traumatic stress disorder and traumatic brain injury. the government has repeatedly denied services because his wounds aren't visible. he will never be able to return to the regular work force. this week president obama's administration again cut his benefits. sir, will you look me in the eye and tell me who will be taking care of him? >> david, my -- my heart breaks for you and your family. it's -- it's just hard to imagine what it could be like. i have five boys, as you know. having one of them injured that way, having one lost his life, it's just something you can only imagine.

you can't know unless you've really experienced as you have, and i want you to know how much i appreciate your son's sacrifice for our country, and i appreciate your sacrifice, your family's sacrifice for our country. to those who put everything on the line, we owe everything they need. >> joining us once again is dave mcarthur. dave, that was a very powerful and a very emotional moment. not just for you and mitt romney, but frankly, for every one of us who was there. you could sense a palpable energy that i've rarely seen in doing television, but something happened as a result of that conversation that you and governor romney had. you got a contact the very next what, monday. >> monday. my son moose, i call him moose. to the world he's moose, okay. his real name is david, but moose got a contact from our local va, his local va rep, and suddenly his claim that was ten days before that when he contact yelled them, four to six months

off was in process. it's being taken care of. then tuesday morning the phone rings again. it's not only the month, it turned into a day, the claim has been processed, and now the check is in the system to be cut. it was actually on his mol which is a military on line thing. you know, as great as that is, governor, it shows the pa theticness of how the system is run. >> i know you're grateful that moose will get his benefits. that's wonderful. that's what you operate prayed . at least it appears, and i can't say this definitively because i don't know, but it appears that you having talked about this on television and had such a powerful emotional moment there got moose's case the attention that it should have had from the moment he got back from afghanistan. there are thousands of families out there, lots of fathers whose kids are not getting that attention because they haven't been on tv. >> i could pass the e-mail that

i got to you. a gentleman out of bloomington, illinois. his son waited a year. a year. i feel like i know you. i'm a small business owner, i'm a christian, my son is a marine and is wounded, and we both like bud light. i'm a real guy. the dad says i didn't get the attention you had and my son suffered. what joand i don't understand iw they can go through the process, the dod, department of defense, has them in the system a year and a half. they say goodbye, now you're on your own, and there's nothing for these men and women to support themselves. we talk about the suicide rates in the military and the scret veterans. this is it. this is why. the american public have no clue of what we, the american people, are doing to our wounded men and women. >> it was very obvious to those of us sitting here that this had a very profound effect on governor romney, and i said in all the times that i've seen him on the campaign trail, and i've seen him more than most people, quite frankly, from four years ago and now, this was one of

those times when you could see that there was not the candidate mitt romney, there was the father, mitt romney, father of five boys, talking to you, dad to dad. he mentioned to you in his speech in boston, and i want us to play the clip and get your reaction to it. here's mitt romney. >> i met parents like david mcarthur. maybe you saw him on the huckabee show. his children have served their country in war. david's son was seriously injured in afghanistan as he described. he only returned from the front lines to face a new fight, to get the medical care he needed, and he assuredly has earned. as i told david, i believe that to those who put everything on the the line for us, we owe everything to them that they need. >> dave, when you were watching television, suddenly you see your name mentioned by a presidential candidate in a victory rally, how did you respond? what was going on inside of you when he this happened? >> thank you, lord.

that says it all. when i saw that, moose was right here. you know what it's like to sit beside your boy -- sorry. to sit beside your boy who is going through that and to know him and to know his brothers and sisters that he fought with are still fighting that same fight? my heart goes out in appreciation to governor romney. i hope if he makes it to the -- to be our presidential candidate that he makes this an issue. you know, we're still fighting a war over there. >> yeah. >> this administration doesn't talk about it. when is the last time you hear about it on the news? as i say, those benefits, they talk about cutting that tri care. people think that's the 50-year-old retired man or woman that can go to work. no. that's a 19-year-old kid that got his legs blown off yesterday and he's in an induced coma. when he wakes up in a week, what are we going to tell him. thank you for sacrificing your legs, and by the way, we raised your tri care fees?

>> i hope not, dave. if it was for the 50 or 60 or 70-year-old. >> we broke our promotes. >> we owe it to them. they did their part. they kept their promise to this country. we have a moral obligation to keep our promise to them. i'm glad it worked out for moose. i want to say thanks again for bringing up the issue not to only mitt romney but for bringing it up to america and bringing a great deal attention. great to see you again. thanks for coming back. >> appreciate it. thank you. for three ohio residents who were undecided before the state's primary on super tuesday, they peppered the candidates with questions in our forum. were their questions answered, and did the answers help them decide on candidate? why don't we just ask them? so we'll bring them here right after the break.

>> our second panel in last week's forum in wilmington, ohio

featured three ohio residents hit hard by the poor economy in the past few years, and they asked the candidates some pretty tough questions. >> sir, with all due respect, the statements you made about unemployment where you were giving people money for doing nothing, that's not entirely accurate. while you say we're doing nothing, you have to look for a job, you have to document that which takes a lot of money and fuel, time, and then with what's left over, you have to try and pay your bills. >> you made some comments that lead me to believe that you might cut social security immediately. my husband and i took social security early so that we could maintain our home and not lose it. when are you going to make cuts and how? >> i'm a student in college, and your comment about obama being a snob for wanting everyone to have the chance to go to college really didn't sit well with my campus. >> sure. >> i wanted to give you a chance

to explain what you meant by that because personally, i'd really like to know. >> joining us here in our new york studio with reaction to last week as forum and what's happened since, former dhl driver and knife maker, and a home maker, and a senior from ohio state university. good to have you guys back with me in new york. i've got to be honest with you. i had a lot of fun in wilmington, ohio. what a wonderful community. the nicest people, and maybe we ought to do the show there more often. i know wilmington and new york are a lot alike. you probably feel at home here. first of all, let's talk about some of the reactions that you had. devin, what feedback did you get after being a part of the forum? >> i mean, a lot of people reached out to me that i knew. people from my home town, people from my church, stuff like that. a lot of students at school found out about it, you know, through facebook or twitter and stuff like that, and then there

were some professors who reached out to me, some former alumni from ohio state. >> did you get some extra grades out of it? you shoul should have. >> if any of them are listening, i'd appreciate it. >> i'm going to write ohio state a letter. i think they ought to take your f and make it a d. >> i would love that. >> tammy, what about you? you probably had some folks bumping into you in wilmington, ohio last week saying i saw you on tv. what did they say? >> i talked with lots of folks. one of the fellows i talked with actually said that his wife was pretty a political usually, but she watched the show. she saw me answer or asking the questions. she saw what she thought were real questions and real people asking them, and so she had questions of her own after that, and she actually voted in the primary which is something she usually doesn't do. >> so you at least pulled one more voter. >> every vote counts. >> mike, you look a little different this week. what happened to the rest of the facial hair? >> spring has sprung.

>> what kind of reaction have you had and what's happened in your world since a week ago? >> well, i got dozens of phone calls from people all over the united states, and a lot of them were asking me. you have set, you know, face-to-face with these guys, and you're just a real person. what's your gut feeling, you know? can i get your reaction and your gut feeling to try to give me an idea of who to vote for. >> they wanted to know what you felt. what did you tell them? >> i told them that, you know, i got a lot of sincerity from mr. romney, from governor romney. i felt a little bit of that reagan grit, and you know, he didn't have his game face on. he didn't have his tv face on. he was talking to me, and you know, i formulated my vote from that panel, you know. i was completely unaware of who i was going to vote for until after that, and also, i've been

blessed tremendously. my phone hasn't stopped ringing since i was on the show from people all over the united states wanting to order custom knives. i went from about a six to an eight-month wait to 16 months. it's just been -- that's just god. >> well, what a great affirmation of your presence there. tammy, was there any answer that you got from one of the candidates that either surprised you positively or negatively? >> i think what surprised me the most was the passion that all the men brought to the forum, and there was a little sidestepping. i do have to say that, but i think that happens. i was impressed with some of the answers concerning the taxation of manufacturing. it went anywhere from senator santorum saying he would institute the zero percent to governor romney which i felt did a more realistic taxation, and

that was from 35 to 28%. >> devin, just real quickly, i want to ask if there was anything out of this that as a student who is facing a long future and a tough job market, anything out there that made you say that answer made sense to me? >> i was actually sort of disappointed by the answer that i got to my questions. not necessarily romney, but specifically rick santorum's answer. the next day the la times ran an article about the question i answered. it fact checked the statement he repeatedly cited obama was making. it came back faults. either santorum, either he distorted the truth or he just didn't know the truth. sitting five feet away from me. i wasn't satisfied with that. >> well, i want to say i thought all the candidates were very candid with you guys. i thought the energy they brought was exceptional. it's tough being a candidate. you know he what? i think it's tougher having questions from guys like you than it is the media types because they kind of know what

the media people are going to ask. they had no idea what you were going to ask. your questions were not from following them around on the trail. your questions came from your life experience struggling with an economy that's in the toilet because this whole country's economy has struggled, and i think it was a powerful moment. i want to than thank all of your helping to make the forum an incredible success. great to have you back. have fun in new york. i want to go back to wilmington. you come back to new york, i'll go to wilmington, because we had a blast there. >> thank you very much. coming up, former senator rick santorum and his lovely wife karen join us. we'll have a great conversation uu them.

republican presidential candidate rick santorum has

surged from fromd back of the pk and the side of the stage to be seriously challenging mitt romney for the nomination. but with the status comes the scrutiny, and his critics say he's not sensitive to issues important to women. the former pennsylvania senator and the woman who knows him best, his wife, cairp, joi kares from wichita, kansas. senator, good to have you and karen. thank you for joining me today. >> thank you, governor. >> senator, the young man who was with us in ohio, one of the concerns he had was the question that you raised about barack obama and people, and i think you iewf the ter used the term . look. having been candidate, we all go out on the campaign trail, we say things we wish we hadn't said or we wished we would have said them differently. is there anything out there that you wish you could walk back and do that a little differently. >> my wife after she heard the comment, she said rick, she said his comment might have been

snobbish, but that doesn't make him a snob. and so just if you want t to say it was a snobbish comment, that's one thing, but yeah. you're right, mike. you get out there and you get wound up and you get passionate, and you sometimes as you know, as you did, i mean, you spoke from the heart. you didn't use the teleprompters like many candidates do, and sometimes you say things that you wish you had said just a little bit differently, and that's certainly one of them. >> that's where the wives are so effective. they come in and tell us the things that nobody else will, so karen, what have you told your husband along the trail and pulled him aside and said to him what know 1 else could get away with? >> you don't have enough time on the show for that. >> well, karen, just give me one example of what you whispered into your husband's ear to give him a little helpful advice. i know my wife always was there and good night, she was brutally honest with me.

>> so much of it is just, you know, be yourself, be sincere, speak from your heart, and -- and rick is a very passionate man, and i love that in rick. very passionate. sometimes people misinterpret that as sort of being mean, so sometimes i ask him to tone it down a little bit and keep a balance between your passion and getting a little too fiery. he cares a lo a lot about the i, but there are so many things, mike. it's part of the fun of being married, right? >> yeah. >> at one debate i was getting a little -- i was getting a little fired up, and i walked off and one of those breaks, mike, where you get a chance to see your wife in between, and she walked up to me and i said how am i doing, and she just looked at me sternly and said chill. that's what wives do, and they do it well. >> mike: you know, one thing, and rick, i've known you a long time. i have admired the convictions you have. the last thing on earth i think that would ever be legitimately

said about you is that you fear strong women. you married a woman who has both a nursing degree and a law degree, who home schools seven children. that requires an extraordinary level of commitment, tenacity, and a high level of intelligence and education, so you know, karen, i'd like for you to tell us the real rick santorum and his relationship with a strong woman, because you certainly are one. >> thank you, governor. rick has always been such a great husband. he is completely supportive of me and my hopes and dreams. he has been a loving, passionate, and devoted husband and father. he is very involved with me and my life and everything that i do, and he is also just a completely committed and involved father to our seven children. he's really been great. he's the kind of guy who when he walks through the house, the front door, he's not a senator. he's not a guy running for president. he is right there helping me

with the children, he's, you know, doing the yard work with the kids. he's in the kitchen cooking a meal. he's actually a great cook. his father was an italian immigrant and taught him to be a great cook. he's very involved at home in helping with every aspect of family life. he's been really great with that. >> let's talk about your role, karen, on the campaign trail. balancing the incredible responsibilities of seven children, one of whom has some serious medical issues, your precious child bella, and yet at the same time i've seen you so often on the trail. let's talk about that. walk us through. how do you do that? how do you make it all work? >> oh, my goodness. i wish we could do a day in the life. it's amazing. we are just -- >> she is amazing, mike. amazing. >> taking care of all their needs with education and extracurriculars and appointments and play dates and everything, so juggling family life and making sure the children are takin taken care o.

i'm very much a mom at home. rick, too, is a big help. we're juggling the campaign trail. i always say rick is a guy who knows hard work ethic, he knows frugality. if he doesn't know the price of a gallon of milk, he knows the price of six gallons of milk. we very much want to pass that hard work ethic and frugal ways onto our children. we shop at discount stores. we shop at outlet malls. you know, it's been wonderful. we're very united as a family in this journey, but it is a juggling act. i think with having seven children, it gives rick a unique perspective on things because he understands living by a budget and all the demands of being a parent combined with work. >> mike, you know, when you went through running for president, i mean, you've got to give up everything you're doing and you've got to go full hog. you know, we've done well. we worked hard after i left the

senate, but we're burning through our savings. we're making the sacrifices, and we've got to watch. we do. i mean, we've got to pinch pennies, make sure that we're sort of holding things together, and karen has been just fabulous at that, but this is a team effort, and as you can see, you know, she's a very key part of the campaign. she was here in wichita today at speaking for me at the caucuses. i suspect wichita will be my best caucus location as a result. >> mike: i don't even doubt that a minute. i want to say thanks to both of you. one of the things i enjoyed doing today is having a more personal side. we hear all these policy things to the point we get numb. but to see you guys as just people like us and to see a wonderful marriage and a committed family who have seven kids, and you raised those kids and you love those kids and you're committed to them, i think it gives us a much better insight than all the super pac ads that will ever be run for or against you. i want to say thanks both to rick and karen santorum, two

wonderful people. great to have you with us. >> thank you, governor. god bless you. >> mike: his character got whacked by hit many on the sopranos. he's the host of the documentary serious about real life hired guns called nothing personal. he joins me n we know a place where tossing and turning have given way to sleeping. where sleepless nights yield to restful sleep. and lunesta can help you get there, like it has for so many people before. when taking lunesta, don't drive or operate machinery until you feel fully awake. walking, eating, driving, or engaging in other activities while asleep, without remembering it the next day, have been reported. abnormal behaviors may include aggressiveness, agitation, hallucinations or confusion. in depressed patients, worsening of depression, including risk of suicide, may occur. alcohol may increase these risks. allergic reactions, such as tongue or throat swelling,

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>> mike: the all-time classic movie, the gotfather, had member mabmemberrable lines including s one. it's not personal, its just business. the investigation discovery show nothing personal is not based on a hollywood script but real life murder-for-hire stories. >> he has agreed to kill susan for $50,000. it's not going to be pretty. to keep things quick and quiet, he plans to beat her brains out with a claw hammer. no gunshots, no screaming stab victim. the weapon is unusual unless, of course, you're totally confident that you're way more powerful

than your victim. >> please welcome back to the show the host of nothing personal, our favorite, steve sharipa. you did that opening thing with the hammer and all, and i'm thinkinthinking quick and quiet? that seems disgusting. >> well, it is disgusting. i mean, these are real stories. >> horrific stories. this story i was telling you about was a nurse who was 5-6, 260 pounds, married to a guy for 17 years. he hires someone to kill her. he wants er her pension. he wants her house. it's for money. most of these things. and so she comes home and she has a cup of cocoa. this guy sneaks up behind her, hits her with a hammer. he's 5-8, 180. they fight for half an hour.

a half an hour. she's on camera walking us through the house. she fights him back, kills the hit man. >> with his mearm? >> with the hammer, and then hits him and chokes him. his last words are boy, you are strong. she kills the hit man. >> speaking of hit men, for the long time you played on the hbo award-winning series "the sopranos", and a lot of people including your character, bobby. you got whacked on the show as did a lot of other people. >> yeah. >> there was a great "vanity fair" article about the sopranos. i didn't know this until i read the article. you guys didn't know yourselves who was going to get whacked on the show until you come for the read. >> absolutely. they would tell you maybe sometimes you have a read through, and they would tell you before. >> yeah. >> step into my office or maybe a phone call, but it was a serious concern. >> well, yeah. getting killed would be a pretty

serious concern. >> no matter how you look at it, the story line, you were out of work. >> yeah. >> so here you are, you know, it's hard enough to get a job as an actor. here you are, you finally get a job. you finally get on a hit show. now you've got to sweat it out every week that they're going to kill you. >> when did they tell you and how did they tell you that you were going to get whacked? >> i got it a little different way. i got killed in the next to last episodes. david chase, creator, called my house. his assistant said hold for david. it's like the boss calling, right. i took the phone. he said where are you. i said i'm in my apartment. he said i'm on my way over. >iwas like you're coming here to my house? we don't visit each other's houses. it's like getting a call from the governor. get over here. >> and he walked in with a hammer. >> not that far off. the doormalib doorman said davis there. he rings the bell. i open the door. he said i guess you know why i'm here.

it was like a real hit. i said i guess. he said well, if you have any -- if you have any plans for the next episode, go ahead and do it because you're not in it. we sat and we talked. i thanked him for changing my life. i said how is it going to happen, and he said well -- he was very vague. i took it kind of as a badge of honor that one, he came to my house. maybe he was just in the neighborhood, and two, they killed me the right way, you know. if they just let you fade out, no big deal. if they give you that good killing, i think that was good. >> it was a great story, too. james gandolofini who i would like to meet one day. he and hbo were haggling other the money situation. he ended up getting more. what did he do that surprised all of you guys? >> he called each one of us into his trailer, 16 regular cast members, and gave us $33,333 each. >> wow.

>> it's like giving 16 people a car. he said thanks for sticking by me, thanks for sticking by me, and i mean, look. there's a lot of people on tv that made more money than jim. he's done well, but that was pretty generous. >> that is pretty exceptional. says a lot about him. also says a lot about you guys. >> absolutely. >> you know what? it's great having you here. >> good to see you, governor. >> hope you do it very often. always a pleasure to have steve. i'm glad he's here, nobody has whacked him. well, thanks to a supreme court ruling back in 2010, the creation of super pacs has changed the way the national campaigns are waged. what are super pacs? and have they made things better or maybe made them worse? coming up, i'm going to tell you the secret of super pacs. you better stay with us.

the race for the white house can be pretty nasty. in fact, i've still got the scars to prove it. but this year it is like never before because of the emergence of super pacs. let me ask our audience something. how many of you here in our audience know what a super pac is? maybe you know what a super pac is. a few of you. how many of you aren't sure what a super pac is? all right. overwhelmingly do not know. i think that's true for most americans. what we're going to do in this segment is talk about super pakistan. they were created as a result of

a supreme court ruling back in 2010 known as the citizens united ruling. the fact is, the super pac probably was a good court ruling. it basically said that you can't restrict people's free speech, but what is the result? let's take a look at some of the piewrsuper pac ads and we'll tak about how this happens. >> why is this man smiling? because his plan is working. brutally attack mitt romney and hope newt gingrich is his opponent. why?

newt has a ton of baggage, the fact that he was fined $300,000 for ethics violations or he took at least $1.6 million dollar from freddie mac before it helped cause the economic meltdown. >> mitt romney's mission, to reap massive rewards for himself and his investors. >> mitt romney and them guys, they don't care who i am. >> he's for small business? no, he isn't. he's not. >> you're going to be on the hit list, you know that. >> romney took foreign seed money from latin america and began exploiting dozens of american businesses. >> that's some pretty rough stuff. that's what super pacs do. they do stuff that no candidate would ever put his or her name on because it would be so rough that it would blow back on the candidate, so super pacs are created independent of the candidate. the money is raised with no ability for the candidate and that super pac to coordinate. that's at least the legal idea.

no coordination, no hand-holding, no collusion. has to be kept separate and independent, but clearly these super pacs are created and their entire purpose is to help one candidate and therefore to hurt one or more of the others. here's something that many do not know. 509 millio$59 million have beeny the super pacs in television advertising. guess how much the candidates have spent? about 18 million. it's almost a 3-to-1 mix of $3 of super pac money to a dollar for a candidate who comes on and says i'm mitt romney and i approved this message or i'm newt gingrich and i approve this message. let's talk to the audience and see about their questions. mike, from oklahoma who has a question on super pacs, mike? >> yes, governor. i was curious. why is it that there's no accountability between the candidate and the ads ran by super pacs because i would like to know that they are portraying

the message that they want and not have some unknown group taking a hit on their behalf and then disconnecting themselves. >> see, i think one of the things that's so disinjen with us abouuousabout the super pack. i had nothing to do with that and i want them to stop it, wink, wink. are you kidding me? they know the donors. not like they don't. legally they cannot pick up the phone and call the super pack and say please stop that ad. they can't do that. franklin, i think the better -- frankly, i think the better way would be to prohibit nothing and disclose anything. anything that is said for or against a candidate would have to come through that candidate's campaign so that candidate has to stand up there and put himself against that message and say yeah, i said it. that wasn't something from the trees. all right. let's see. we've got wes from texas. where are you, wes? right in the front row. >> you sort of took my question away there because it seems to me that we've got a lot of

confusion with a lot of different organizations and things created by all these various laws. why would it not make more sense for there to be relatively few laws. whoever wants to give money can give whatever they want to give to whoever they want to give it and everybody, all of that has to be disclosed in such a way that everybody can find that information if they want it. >> wes, i think we need to elect you to congress. that's exactly what we ought to be doing. seriously. the worst thing that ever happened in campaign finance is the mccain fine gold so called campaign finance reform. its ridiculous, and it made the system worse, not better. your idea is the right one. let everybody stand up and be counted for the money they give and for the message they say and we'll know who is saying what and why are they saying it. that would be a better answer. i vote for you for congress, wes. look forward to your campaign soon. all right. hope that helped you on super pacs. coming up, rock and pop music like you've never heard it before. youtube sensation the two [ male announcer ] if you believe the mayan calendar,

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