on tuesday, illinois holds the g.o.p. primary and 69 delegates at stake there. on saturday, louisiana holds the primary, 46 delegates there. thanks for watching. i'm harris falkner, huckabee is now. >> tonight on huckabee, a toxic environment with a decline in moral fiber, are these the sentiments of an exgold m exgoldman executive. charlie gasperino what it means for your money. the massacre of the soldier in afghanistan, was on his fourth tour there, and will ptsd play a role. judge jeanine weighs in. and the murder of his daughter jo jon benet. and how his faith helped him through darkest hour. >> ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee.

>> thank you, thank you very much. here on st. patty's weekend. a very lively crowd of people in our studio. welcome to huckabee, we're live from the fox news studios in new york city. now, let me just say that a lot of people have their shorts in a wad because of the proposal to require a photo i.d. to vote. i want to see why this becomes such a point of convention with many democrats. i understand that we should not make it difficult for people to exercise their right to vote. and if people neither have nor need a driver's license. then the state ought to provide a free photo i.d. i wouldn't find if we have several get your photo i.d. days and set up centers in convenient times and places and i'm sure they'd provide transportation, but railing against having a photo i.d. to vote escapes my common sense

radar screen. the issue is partisan at times, irrational. this week, the human rights commission agreed to hear from the ncaa about states and pending in 32 others. and they'll be passing judgment on the fairness of our elections includes bastions of voting rights, china, cuba, qatar and saudi arabia and a woman could show a photo i.d. all day and still not be allowed to vote. and personally, i suggest the faster and easier way to determine whether the u.n. believes it's a violation of human rights to require someone to show a photo i.d. would be to walk in off the street in the u.n. and demand to sit in on the human rights commission without having to show a photo i.d.? do you think that will happen? of course not. the word disenfranchise is the battle friday on this issue, but a point being missed. if a person votes fraud he

lently. that illegal vote has disenfranchised a legitimate voter regardless of race or ethnicity. i've got to show a photo i.d. for a plane on try getting into the white house, look, in addition to a photo i.d. you'll have to provide a social security number and the size of your socks. heck, just to get into the delta sky club, i got to show a photo i.d. and that's even when the agent recognizes me. and calls me by name, and knows that i'm a diamond medallion flyer and then says it's good to see you, mr. huckabee. can i see your photo i.d.? my face, maybe? well, the last thing i'd want to do is intimidate someone from voting, i mean this, even if they were voting against me. well, maybe i wouldn't go that far, but i would fight for the right of any citizen to cast a legal and legitimate ballot. but if a photo i.d. is needed

to cash a check or money order, buy liquor or get on a plane or in a building, why is it such a big problem to ask for it when we vote? that's my view. i welcome yours. and, you can contact me with whatever that view is. and mike huckabee.com and click on the fox feedback section and go to the wall and sign up there, be a part of my facebook page and follow me on twitter and by the way, the book "simple government" new york times best seller now in paper back edition, available at book stores everywhere and amazon.com. earlier this week, the justice department rejected texas new voter identification law that would require voters to have had a valid photo i.d. and they say it would die proportionately latinos-- >> there's no proof that our

elections are marred by in person voter fraud. you're only coming up with a mechanism that makes it more difficult for people to exercise what is the most fundamental of american rights and that's the right to vote. >> all right. it's time for the report card. and handing out grades today. the editor of the legal news website, above the law.com. community organizer and fox news contributor sally cowan and actor and singer, robert dabby, and he'll be with us, and i'll be happy to have my good friend robert here today. now, we've talked about the voter i.d. law. because, i'm having trouble trying to understand why this is such a-- a stumbling block. help me here and help me understand what's the problem. >> well, i mean, i'm going to give holder and the whole system here a c. a c. the reason why i'm doing that is what. voter i.d. laws are some the most racially and politically

motivated laws he we pass in this country. a box of crayons are more color blind than your average voter i.d. law and unfortunately-- all due respect when you say the voter i.d. to show a photo, is racial. >> uh-huh. >> is it racial to show one to get a check cashed or to buy liquor? >> there's a difference, i believe, between a law that has a racial-- that is intended to be racist. >> you believe that's what it's for? >> no, i do not believe. this intended to be racist, a difference between laws that are intended to be racist and laws that have a racial impact. let's say that i decided that nobody can hold a parade in march. now, that might not have a public policy, you know, point. but it's going to disproportionalitily impact irish people and catholic people who happen to have the parade in march and that's what moerholder is saying here, it's not that it has-- it's a desperate impact and this isn't my fault, but unfortunately, since texas has, you know, a bit of a

history here, we have to hold them to a standard. >> i guess i don't get that, but i'm going to go to you, sally. you were nodding your head. >> i think he put it well and i give the attorney general and the administration on this one, an a. >> of course you do. come on, governor you know i'll criticize the government when i think it's appropriate. on this one we all agree as americans that one of the most important rights we can preserve in our country is the right to vote and let's distinguish that between getting on a plane and buying liquor, those are not sacred rights that we preserve and value. >> mike: i don't know to the people of st. patty's day in new york, that is sacred. i saw it out there. it's sacred. >> life, liberty and right to green beer. that aside, look, everything he said is correct and every state rather than the willy nilly, every one that's looked into alleged allegations of voter fraud found that they are next to nothing, 1, 2, 3 cases of voter fraud out of millions of voters, but here

we have republicans and it's republicans who are putting in the laws that we know discourage mainly people of go to the vote and tend to vote democrat and-- >> robert, what do you give the attorney general on this one and i'm not really seeing it and i'm trying to be-- i really am trying, you give him one? >> a z. >> a z? that's a new grade. [applaus [applause] >> you'll interpret the z for us, won't you? >> well, you know, look it. my grandparents were immigrants. my grandfather fought in world war i, as a u.s. army, he was got two purple hearts. and the -- it makes no sense to me at all why you can't have an i.d. to vote. i think it's the necessary aspect in terms of identifying who is voting out there. you know that people are fraudulently using my i.d. was just ripped off. at a store.

r ripped off with this mug, but somebody got to put charges, so, the easiest thing to kind of, so i think we need to have i.d.'s, we need to have a national i.d. and find out who the immigrants are anyway, we should find out not to be compassionate about it. we need i.d. >> one other topic and we're running out of time as we always do. this is barack obama's campaign video with tom hanks. >> ♪ >> how do we understand this president and his time in office? do we look at the day's headlines or do we remember what we, as a country, have been through? >> the president-elect is here in chicago and he's named the members of the economic team and they all fly in for the first big briefing on the economy. what was described in that meeting was an economic crisis

beyond anything anybody had imagined. >> okay, this is had a campaign video, it's had a lot of attention. some controversy, i'm not sure i understand it. let's start with you, robert. give the president and his campaign team a grade on how they did on the video. what are you going to give them. >> triple-a. >> triple a. >> i think it's a stunning video and narrated with tom hanks one of our great actors with compassion and a sense of feeling. >> mike: yeah. >> i think the whole video had a sense of feeling and draws me in. i might not agree with the policies of the administration, but i look at that video and get taken in and that's something that the left does better than us, and this is a beautiful piece of ad prop, and-- >> sally, what about you. >> i don't agree with the ad prop, but the triple-a. and look, the president says one thing we are where we are, what the video does well, puts

out facts, facts about the, you know, 22 straight months of job growth and that's what's going to take to win the campaign. >> mike: all right. >> i give the president a halo and i particularly liked it. i particularly liked it when he walked across water and changed my coffee-- (laughter) >> look, it's a campaign video. would you rather see that or 180 minutes of mitt romney attacking somebody? i think that's what you've got to look at. >> mike: depends on your point of view politically. i agree with all of you on, it's a campaign video, intended to be propaganda and not sure about the fact checking we would do, hadn't blamed anybody, don't buy that. as a piece of art it's brilliant and frankly, the republicans are going to do one similar and probably get jon voight, maybe robert davi to narrate it and that will be fine. all the republicans bent out of shape, cool down, we'll have one of your own.

i don't agree he with the conclusion, but thank you, robert will be back on the show with his band. you'll love it a wonderful frank sinatra classic coming later in the show. >> why would the new york times run a scathing op-ed written by a goldman sachs worker about to quit? charlie gasperino has new details. stick around to find out why. having an irregular heartbeat called atrial fibrillation puts you at 5 times greater risk of stroke. don't wait. go to afibstroke.com for a free discussion guide to help you talk to your doctor about reducing your risk. that's afibstroke.com.

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>> it was the resignation letter. the new york times ran an op-ed from former gomez long time employee greg smith. he called them morally bankrupt and they care only about clients and not profits. and fox business network charlie gasperino is here and he's going to sort it out for us. charlie, good to have you. >> governor. >> this was a pretty big deal

in the financial-- >> oh, yeah, i remember when it hit the wires and the first thing i did was look at this and say, we have to cover this and figure out who greg smith is, and figure out why this man and why the new york times ran this. i mean, i think there's a couple of layers mere. you can find a disgruntled employee and makes a legitimate claim. and every firm, does that stand for the entire firm and ask yourself. why the new york times dignified this. put this on a very prominent place, and this is a big deal. >> mike: it wasn't just a letter to the editor. this was on the op-ed. >> between maureen dowd's column and tom freedman. >> mike: prominent and this is a quote. yet your clients some who are sophisticated and some who aren't, whatever brings the biggest profit to goldman. call me old-fashioned i don't like selling my client a product-- >> did it for 12 years.

>> first of all, do we know much about greg smith? is he high up in the company, is he middle? some people were trying to dismiss him and speak contemptuo contemptuously. and made me think they had a higher position of and dismissing him insignificant. >> no, he's a mid level employee and made between, we're going to found like in a lot of money. in goldman sachs not a lot. between 500,000 and between-- that's in the middle of the road. a viep, just to explain what that means, he never made managing director and that's the big time. so was stuck in a middle level position and you know, i was, listen, i've grin a lot of terrible things and stuff about goldman, about the culture and put him into context, why did he do this? and you know, you've got to, just to be fair, somewhat of an ax to grind and there's no doubt about it. is some of the stuff he's

saying true? >> that's the point and that's my question here, we can argue, why did the new york times give so much prominence and choose this venue to resign? but, is there substance to what he was saying about goldman, who was, according to him. treating their clients with great disdain and more worried how it would affect them than their clients. >> and there are people who treat goldman with disdain and they're sophisticated investors and players on wall street in the world. wall street is a sharp-elbow heed business and not only that, when i read that thing, there was nothing fraudulent what they were doing. were they squeezing fees out of their clients, yes. >> mike: it may not have been criminal, but ethical, that's the question. >> as long as you don't lie to people. when you're dealing with smart people. >> mike: he says they were lying, to people. he says they were selling stuff knew it wasn't good for

the client, but good for goldman. >> and when you say do you want the bet and take it we step back and everybody is equal in terms of intelligent. different when you're selling to average individual people and that does happen and that's not what you're talking about. when you're dealing with sophisticated people who have as much information as i have. you take a bet, i take a bet. you're wrong sometimes and i am wrong in sometimes. >> mike: where is this going? >> could go far for goldman, depending how many partners are not with the firm. stand up and say we need an investigation. most people say this is business. it's different because they deal with sophisticated investigators. if they were ripping off grandma millie. >> and some of these are aunt millie ab-- >> obviously, this is not over yet. >> mike: charlie, thank you

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>> staff target robert bales has been accused of killing 16 people. nine children. and bales is 38 years old from washington state and he and his wife have a house and two young children. when bales' identity was released, his neighbors could

not believe he could be to blame. >> i just feel so sorry for him and had i family and he's a victim of a terrible, terrible war. when something like that happens, it's related to ptsd. >> mike: and they hired a defense attorney henry brown, and he had two injuries in three deployments to iraq and this was his fourth. we're joined by justin jeanine, and let me get straight to the point. he could be defended by the jag unit, but he's hired a private attorney. what does it mean in the context of his legal position with court martial. >> and it's important that the family hired the attorney. there's no question that this case has worldwide symbolism

and that the administration is going full throttle and it's very important right now for him to have the best defense he can possibly get. given the fact that this, i believe, will be a death penalty case as sure as i'm sitting here. 16 civilians, some of them children, burned. >> mike: this is horrible, there's no way to describe the heinous nature on it. this is a guy who has had four combat tours, a defense that will help him avoid a death penalty. >> certainly, the defense will bring up the post traumatic stress disorder, but the question is whether or not ptsd rises to the level of insanity. will that be enough to say he suffered from a mental defect. he couldn't understand the nature and consequences of what he was doing? and you're right, in the la 25 years, the military has sought death in 50 caseses, but right now of the 15 that were

sentenced to the death penalty. only five were on death row because the commanding general and the appellate courts can reverse. and this is a long way from over. let's get to the heart of what may be the controversy. is he going to have a more, let's say harsh trial and punishment for the political reasons to somehow appease what is a red-hot situation in afghanistan? would at the be under the same level of intense prosecution if this had happened in, let's say germany? >> there is no question the circumstances surrounding the situation and we're in afghanistan, and all eyes on the longest war in american history and the administration has got to show this was a guy who was either evil or broken and the defense is it going to say, this is about the war. this is about what the war does to our young men and women.

they suffer from post traumatic stress disorder. governor, this was a guy who was highly decorated and enlisted after 9/11 to protect and save his country. he was injured with a brain injury, traumatic brain injury. he lost part of his foot in another injury while the at war. he had three combat tours, they told him no fourth combat, no way. and the night before they sent him to afghanistan. i mean, this is a guy who has been through hell and we all know war is hell. and this case is going to be very symbolic. because, the afghans did not want this guy taken out of the country. they want quick and certain justice. the americans brought him out to kuwait. they went crazy and now he's at fort leavenworth. so the administration is going full bore on this thing and the guy is under the gun. the question, with ptsd and what happened to him be enough for that jury of 12 to say, he is insane and therefore not guilty. >> mike: i know you're a judge not a prophet. if you could look into the

future, what could you see. will he end up getting the death penalty and end up carried out or will the defense be able to successfully at least keep him from a death penalty? >> i think what happens will depend upon the time. this, in our justice system, in the military justice system, things can take years. the focus will be taken off this case and if that's the case less a chance of death and more a chance that he'll get the not responsible, not guilty by reason of insanity, but the quicker this moves and if the administration wants to move it to show to the rest of the world we'll be tough on these guys that kill afghan civilians, it's not good for him. >> we're going to keep following the case and probably with you, judge. thank you for being with us. >> thank you, governor. >> coming up next, his six-year-old daughter jon benet was found murdered in his home and he and his wife were prime suspects. how would he cope. you're not going to believe the remarkable story of jon ramsey, next.

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>> live from america's news headquarters, i'm harris falkner. occupy wall street protesters, police arrested more than 70 when the new york city park over the weekend. some facing charges of robbery, sexual abuse and protesting and against setting up tent. this week, marking six months since the movement began. an american citizen shot and killed, local police saying two killers on a deputy director. a militant group believed to be linked to al-qaeda claiming responsibility. and accusing aide groups, and they're investigating the killing. i'm harris falkner, now back to huckabee. and when you want the news go to foxnews.com, you're

watching the most powerful name in news, fox. >> the death of six-year-old beauty queen jon benet ramsey made headlines. as if losing their daughter wasn't enough. john and patsy ramsey had to fight claims they had a hand in her murder. >> it was the day after christmas of 1996, the body of little jon benet ramsey was found in the basement of the upscale home in boulder, colorado. at six years old a child beauty queen competing in pageants much like her mother a former miss west virginia. patsy ramadi called the police to report that jon benet was missing and patsy shows them a ransom note. police conduct a search and find no sign of jon benet. seven hours later he finds his

daughter's body in a little used room in the basement. an autopsy showed she'd been beaten, strangled and possibly sexually assaulted and police shifted their search from a possible intruder to the ramsey family itself. the boulder d.a. said that john and patsy were under an umbrella of suspicion and the case became a media circuit and the family was caught in the court of media position. >> i did not kill jon benet, i loved that child with the whole of my heart and soul. >> the investigation dragged on for months, with little progress and no arrests made. john and patsy put their house on the market and moved to atlanta not far from where their daughter was buried. in 1998 a grand jury decided there was not enough evidence to charge with the murder. tragedy struck in 2006 when patsy ramsey died from a recurrence of ovarian cancer. and then in 2008, 12 years

after that fateful christmas, john and patsy ramsey were exonerated. and new dna proved that they were noent and the boulder's district attorney's office sent a letter of apology. >> the case was reopened in 2010, but still no suspects had been named. and john ramsey told his story in a powerful new book called "the other side of suffering" and joins me now. nice to be here. >> the media frenzy that you experienced is unlike anything you've heard from a private citizen, exceeds that of politician who ask for it. you had people posing as repairmen trying to tap your phone. and a jewish reporter kneeling beside you at communion trying to get you to say something as you knelt to take communion. >> it was madness, absolute

madness. >> john, i think most of us remember the story and it's hard for us to conceive the agony you're going through having lost a daughter that this wasn't your first daughter to have lost tragically. your older daughter beth had been killed in a car accident a few years earlier and facing a second daughter's death and add to that you're accused of the murder. >> yeah, the real pain is the loss of our child and so the accusations and craziness going on around us was there, but it was, we were already near mortally wounded from the loss of a child. so, in a sense it distracted us in an ironic way in that we had to deal with, how do we, how do we get from the house to church or how do we get from the house to the burke's school, without being barraged. >> mike: and burke is. >> my son, nine at the time. >> mike: and another powerful

time. patsy and burke were in the grocery store, and a tabloid says that burke did it. he's nine years old. >> that's hurtful and we tried to shield him, tried to give him a, as much of a childhood as we could continue to give him. but it was tough. >> mike: rarely do i read a book where i find myself so completely enthralled and unable to stop reading and i feel compelled to dig into the story and this is one of the stories because i think i knew what had happened, but i didn't know the depth of it, the humiliation that you and patsy endured at the hands of a local police department that would not accept, really, no for an answer. they were determined, why? what was going on. >> i don't know. and he they placed their bet early and made a decision very early and wouldn't deviate from it, regardless of evidence or lack there of. and i don't know, i can't comprehend why they didn't. we understood and explained to us, that police look at care givers first and parents and

okay, we understand that, but don't stop there, please, you know? of course they did. and i don't know. >> mike: one thing that i find amazing, how do you keep from being angry and bitter and just wanting to get revenge. >> well. >> mike: at the press and police and all the people that wronged you. i mean, by anybody's objective standard they did. >> well, i'd be less than honest if i didn't say i felt that way for a while, but i spent a lot of time thinking about what forgiveness is all about and did a lot of reading, a lot of study and went through three phases i guess of understanding from my benefit what forgiveness really is and forgiveness is a gift i give myself. it's a release of that anger, and that, that desire for revenge. it doesn't matter that the person you're for giving may not know you're forgiving them and it's a gift you give yourself. and took me a while to get to that point. so many things i want to get with you. and take a break and when we

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>> we're back with john ramsey, the side of "the other side of suffering" john speaking of suffering. one of the parts you're accused of was that you mro exploited your daughter. the pageants and took her from being a little girl.

do you regret that. it's hard to sort that out. and shouldn't have done that. patsy and jon benet had fun with it and she was in the pageant and she tried to steer jon benet to. and she was extroverted and give her a microphone and she was ready to talk and sing and trying give her a venue to explore her talents and see if she liked it, was good at it. it wasn't the main part of her life and of course that's how it was portrayed. >> mike: that's how it was portrayed that you were pageant parents. that's not at all. >> not at all. patsy hoped that she would lose a few of these to understand that you do lose in life occasionally and the sense that you look back. you're very open and active in the community and people came to your home for christmas and this happened christmas day, i think that's what people forget, christmas night. >> yeah. >> so, do you feel that that may have opened you to a

vulnerabili vulnerability. >> yeah, it did. i regret that. i think it's good to be anonymous as much as you can and we were not. you know, we were-- it was a small community and we had a rather large business in that community and they would run articles about us occasionally and growing rapidly and hiring people and i don't know, i think that perhaps targeted us. >> is anybody still working on the case actively from-- >> well, there are men and women who came into the case on their own, and seasoned retired homicide detectives that continue to work on it as the need presents itself and i'm grateful for that. lou smith was one of the key guys that did for years and he died a year ago, which was a loss of a friend and a real ally. and lou used to tell me, john, i'm going to get this guy. >> mike: one thing that's evidence, a lot of the scientific evidence, dna which eventually cleared you and patsy and you got an apology. >> yes. >> mike: from the district attorney, yes. >> mike: finally, different from the one that hunted you

down. how gratifying and validating was that. >> it was gratifying in that it was a step forward, a huge step forward, now, we'd crossed a bridge that was important in terms of solving the case in my mind, and i didn't look at it as a, necessarily a point of closure, but it was progress, and that's how i viewed it. >> mike: how did you stay with some level of faith? this would be the kind of experience, not just the jon benet, but beth and the media circus accused by the police, the supposed to be the good guys and now the bad guys. you did not give up on your faith. >> that's what i tried to deal with in the book, when beth was killed my oldest daughter, the first words out of my mouth, there's no god, i screamed that. i hit bed rock and i started to grow from there. and i think anytime anything tragic happens in one's life their faith changes and i met people, went away, there can't

be a loving god if this is what happened to me and it grew and i began to understand what god promises and what he doesn't promise. he doesn't promise protection from difficulty, he promises to get us through difficulty and i began to understand that and i also kind of after the fact, started to see, well, god put people in our life along this difficult path that helps dramatically. and lou smith being one of them. that's how god gets things done, works through people and it was clear to me looking back, that indeed, there were people, you in our life at just the right moment that got us through and that, in my mind was, was god. so, my faith was very much strengthened and that's why i wanted to help people with in the book. >> and would i say, john, i think that comes through more than anything and it's a very compelling narrative of what happened. but more than anything, the conclusion that i come away with is, that despite all of the challenges and all of the pressures, you were able not

to escape those things, but to find god's peace and grace through them. it's a remarkable story and the book is called the other side of suffering, by the way, good news, all the members of our studio audience are getting a copy of john ramsey's book. [applause] >> and i want to say, too, the message that came through to me and i hope it will to you as you read his remarkable book. you don't get to choose the circumstances that come into your life. there are going be to be things you didn't ask for, but it's not that you're going to be all by yourself, and abandoned when it happens and i do hope that it's something that you'll never forget. it's a powerful, powerful message. the other side of suffering and i hope you'll always be on the other side. coming up, we'll be rejoined by robert davi and old blue e eyed classic. stay with us.

>> he starred in dozens of movies, including goonies, die-hard and show girls and several tv series, but his first love was always music. he's got a brand new cd called davi sings sinatra on the road to romance. joining me once again, robert davi. [applause] >> by the way, all the audience members tonight are going to get a copy of your cd. you know what? this is a wonderful piece of music because you pay tribute to one of your favorite frank sinatra, you were in a movie with him and then you heard him sing. >> yeah, 1977 i did my, i think we're a little early here. we're having an interview and then we'll get into it. are we're all anxious to play for you. i did my first film with sinatra in 1977 and you know, from there to being a bond villain and this is one of the

the anniversary of the 50 year anniversary of bond, but singing was always my first love and i studied opera in florence and with dan at julliard and gary katona with one of the best vocal builders in the world. >> mike: what is it about sinatra had a lasting impact. it's timeless music. >> people say why would i want to sing now? the temperature, as you in the audience know, the temperature is more divisive. more than i remembered in my music. the and this music beside thepith picassoesque, it's the golden age of music and our parents grew up with hope and optimism and this music brought us together and comes out of the struggle and the jazz and blue artists and irish r, scottish, norwegian immigrants and

created the american song book and that's why it's lasting nthis particular climate, governor, we need to have something that lets the steam out of our political discourse. >> mike: this song does it and it's beautiful. people can get the cd at amazon and barnes & noble and target and also get it at davi sings sinatra.com and you'll do one of the great songs from it. the best is yet to come. [applause]. >> thises by sy coleman and sarah, and this is one of the last songs he did. ♪ out of the tree of life, i see a plumb. you came along and everything started to hum. it's a real good bet, the best

is yet to come. the best is yet to come and baby won't it be fine. you think you've seen the sun, but you ain't seen it shine. wait till the warm-up, underway. and wait till our lips have met. and wait till you see that sunshine day, you ain't seen nothing yet. the best is yet to come and babe, won't it be fine. the best is yet to come, and today you're mine. come the day you're mine ♪ i'm gonna keep you

♪ we tasted the wine ♪ we're going to have that come rain or shine ♪ ♪ wait till your charms are right for these arms to surround ♪ ♪ you think you've flown before, but baby, you ain't never left the ground ♪ ♪ wait till your locked in my embrace ♪ ♪ wait nil i pull you near ♪ wait till you see that sunshine place ♪ ♪ there ain't nothing like it here ♪ ♪ the best is yet to come and babe won't it be fine ♪ ♪ the best is yet to come, come the day you're mine ♪

♪ come the day you're mine >> i'm gonna make you mine ♪ ♪ make you mine (applaus (applause) >> love the song. love the cd. it's filled with great stuff and thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> terrific having you. do it again? >> i hope so, next time i want you to play. >> mike: next time i will play. >> please. >> mike: and the music it's like serious music for a guy like me. and robert, thank you and all of your musicians, thank you for watching. hope you've had a great time we certainly have. until next week, this is mike huckabee from new york, good luck and god bless, take it away again. ♪ ♪ (applause) captioned by closed captioning services, inc. ♪ it was just one of those

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