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always remember, the spin stops here because we are definitely looking out for you. >> sean: tonight, the cornerstone of president barack obama's domestic agenda is on life support in a series of stunning developments today inside the united states supreme court, an overreaching executive branch collided with the nine justices of the highest court in the land over obamacare. judging by most accounts, it appears the supremes could be preparing to pull the plug once and for all on the law's individual mandate. even left-leaning court watchers have described the performance today during oral arguments as, quote, a train wreck. the solicitor general is reported to have stumbled early and often in defending the key
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requirement for americans to buy insurance. justice scalia attempted to educate the president's lawyers about the mandate. listen. >> you are not regulating health care, you are regulating insurance. it's the insurance market that you are addressing and you are saying that some people who are not in it must be in it. and that's -- that's different from regulating in any matter, commerce that already exists out thri. >> sean: also today, justice anthony kennedy, likely to be the deciding vote in this case voiced his skepticism of obamacare's constitutionality. listen to this. >> the reason this is concerning is because it requires the individual to do an affirmative act in the law of torts, our tradition, our law has been if you don't have the duty to rescue someone, if that person's in danger, the blind man's walking in front of the car, you do not have a duty tow stop him, absent some relation between you.
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and there is some severe moral criticisms of that rule, but that's generally the rule. here, the government is saying that the federal government has a duty tow tell the individual citizen that it must act. and that is different from what we have in previous cases. >> sean: here with the recap of this historic day, jay sekulo and jamie raskin from the american way. how many times have you argued before the supreme court, jay? >> 12 oral arguments, 20 cases. >> sean: have you argued before the supreme court, jamie? >> never had that honor. >> sean: okay. let me get to one more exchange. this was a pretty stunning comment, i think, coming from justice kennedy. you know, in other words, and you, commerce in order to regulate it, pretty fascinating exchange. ending with justice scalia. >> you create congress commerce
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in order to regulate it? >> that's not what is going on here, justice ken deism we are not seeking to defend the lieu that basis. in this case, what is being regulated is the method of financing the purchase of health care. that itself is economic activity with substantial effects on interstate commerce -- >> so any self purchasing, anything i purchase -- you know, if i am in any market at all, my failure to purchase something in that market subjects me to regulation? >> sean: you know, jay, it was almost universal. every court observer listening today pretty much had the same comments, that the administration was just not prepared. and didn't have good answers to the questions, stumbling and stammering and the fact that they have had such a long period of time to prepare for this is fairly -- you know, almost breath take at this point? >> well, you know, defending the indefensible. that became the real problem for
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the solicitor general, who had a very difficult day. a lot of court watchers described this as a train wreck. i am going to say that the fact of the matter is, the most telling thing justice kennedy said in the argument was when he said that this individual mandate is a fundamental shift in the relations between the government and its citizens. he said, that requires a very heavy lift, a very heavy burden. the fact of the matter is, what justice kennedy was looking for which he could not find was a limiting principle. sean, the reason you had the reaction you did today from those who were observing the case and i listen to the entire audio. we had some of our team inside the courtroom. the fact of the matter is, they are defending the indefensible. have you four justices left of center that are going to be in favor of this mandate and it looks like 5 that for declaring it unconstitutional. i think the shock for those in favor of the individual mandate was that they thought that this was going to be an overwhelming
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victory for the obama administration. and as some commentators said today, it was a train wreck. not are you unprepared for the solicitor general. there was no defense to the legitimate questions the court was asking, despite the attempts by some of the justices to bail out the solicitor general. but he had no limiting principle. life insurance, require life insurance, require buying a car, eating broccoli. there is no limit to this. >> sean: we are going to play some of this. whether or not the government would require buying cell phones. let me go to this, there were moments when the arguments were so poor and contradictory that the solicitor general was laughed at on two occasions, you could see that the more liberal members, justice cagan and stevens, trying to bail out the solicitor general, as they were laughing about this. but i think that jay hit on the very key point here, and that is the expected swing justice in this case, justice kennedy,
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saying that this would be a fundamental shift. that seemed to be a very key moment. >> the only thing weaker than that performance were the questions that were come from this bench. the idea -- >> sean: you are going to attack the justices of the supreme court of the united states? >> if you give me the chance, i would love to. >> sean: this ought to be entertaining. >> well, to start with, the idea that there is something unusual or extraordinary about the government compelling people to do things is just incredible for a supreme court to fall into that trap. if you heard of social security and military conscription and compulsory public education. that the idea that this is unprecedented -- >> what does that have to do -- i cannot believe, jamie, you are impacting and negatively speaking about the justices of the court. >> when dido that? when did i talk about the integrity of the court? [overlapping dialogue] >> sean: all right, whoa, wloa,
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stop. one at a time. let me go to another point. i will tell you in the next segment, chief roberts asking whether or not citizens should be required to buy cell phones. and first, justice scalia wondering whether the government will require us to purchase broccoli, it's good for you. >> why do you define the market that broadly -- health care? it may well be that everybody needs health care, but not everybody needs a heart transplant, not everybody needs a liver transplant. >> that's correct. -- >> could you define the market? everybody has to buy food, so you define the market as food, therefore everybody's in the market. therefore, you can make people buy broccoli. >> no. >> sean: it almost was, and at time its even showed up because this is the same trap that obama himself fell into, is it a tax, is it not a tax isn't solicitor general did not have that basic
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argument down is amazing. and for the justices to say, should we compel to you buy broccoli or cell phones? in their own intellectual way, they were mocking the weak arguments of the solicitor eligible. jay? >> it's because, again, sean, a fundamental point, there is no limiting principle for what the solicitor general was asserting. i want to say something here for the record. while i will disagree with members of the supreme court of the united states, i am not going to say their questioning was not appropriate. there was not a question that was asked today -- >> sean: who said that -- >> you may not like the answers i. you were insinuating. and the other thing that has to be understood i. [ly -- >> what the chief justice said -- did you listen to the audio? were you in the court or did you listen to the audio today? >> i listen to the audio -- >> all two hours of it -- [overlapping dialogue] >> listen, we are talking about a republican plan.
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the individual mandate -- >> oh -- >> this was the heart romneycare. newt gingrich was behind it -- >> sean: wait, wait. that's state. they are talking about state. >> how about response to the questions asked. you are talking about a republican coup. it was it is obama administration that brought this legislation forward and jamie, if you don't like it that you didn't have a good day at the supreme court. and that happens sometimes. >> sean: all right. we have to end it there. guyings, thank you for being with us. woe will continue our coverage of a horrible day for the administration. dana and stewart are here. then, tonight -- >> sean: president obama caught on a hot mike. and representative paul ryan will be here for our next stallment as we continue to vet the president, the real obottom a. tonight "hannity." >> the debt, out of control,
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>> now a decision by the supreme
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court on obamacare is due in june, just when the 2012 campaign kicks into high gear. if the high court pulls the plug, could the president, who staked his entire presidency on the law and spent an immeasurable amount of political capital on congress, can he win in november? stuart varney, co-host of "the five," dana perino. i have listened to the supreme court arguments before. i am fascinated by them. let me play one clip here. this is the chief justice, asking the question of whether or not the government should be required to force citizens to get cell phones. watch this. >> so can the government require to you buy a cell phone because that would facilitate responding when you need emergency services? you can just dial 911, no matter where you are? >> no, mr. chief justice. i think that's different. i don't think we being of that as a market. this is market regulation. and in addition, you have a situation in this market, not
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only where people enter involuntary as to when they enter and won't be able to control what they need -- >> but that seems to me as the same in my hypothetical. you don't know when you will need police assistance, you can't predict the extent of the emergency response and the government provides it. i thought that was an important part of your argument, that when you need health care, the government will make sure you get it. when you need police assistance or fire assistance or ambulance assistance, the government will make sure to the best extent it can, that you get. >> it this is like justice scalia wondering if the government will require us to buy broccoli. >> i got to know him a little bit. i like reading the transcripts because if you look at the questions that they ask, they get to the nub of the issues. what he was asking wassing someg
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that a lot of americans could relate, to hypothetical as a comparison or analogies work very well in supreme court arguments. unfortunately for the government, if you are the department of justice today, you went home and you feel like you had your tail between your leggings because after all of that preparation, it didn't turn out very well. >> it sounds like obamacare had a bad day. >> sean: i thought it was embarrassing. and the solicitor general was almost laughed at by everybody in the courtroom. >> i think justice kennedy said the following -- it changes the relationship of the government to the individual in a fundamental way. doesn't that sum tup? >> sean: perfectly. >> it's the government pushing around the individual. that's what the conservatives object, to that's the objection to the mandate t. sums up the ethic of the obama administration, pushing people around, pushing the individual around. it is not going to work. people don't like t. i think this mandate's toast. >> sean: did you find it as interesting as i did that both justice cagan and steven his to almost help the solicitor
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general when it came to the issue of whether or not they for going to call it a tax or not? >> is it a tax or not a tax? is it a tax today and not a tax tomorrow? when is a tax not a tax? >> yesterday, they argued it was not. today, they were arguing that it was. they were in a tough position. but you would have thought with the leadup, that they could have been better prepared. interesting to me, the argument they used to get the bill passed in the first place, even though it was a party-line vote with the democrats, those are the not the same arguments they are using to defend the bill. i think that's another reason why two recent polls with over two-thirds of the american public saying this bill to me is not constitutional. there are a lot of reasons why people might not like this bill. it is not that they don't think the health care industry could use reform and there should be new policies. but they don't want this bill. >> sean: there is a political component to this. >> sure. >> sean: you said something very important here. the arguments that were being made when they were trying to
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sell this to the american people were not the arguments they were making before the supreme court. that's deceptive to me. the president says it's going to be $900 billion and it's estimated to be twice that, we are talking about 6 years of benefits and 10 years of payments itch the promises were that it would lower the cost curve on health care, not true. you could keep the policy that you have now, you can keep it, not so. you can't do that. all of these promises are gone. just follow this through for a second. if a mandate is chucked out, you have even more chaos in the health care patch than you have already. it is absolute chaos if this mandate is thrown out. president obama will get the blame. it will be said that he -- >> sean: those evil -- >> he will run against the supreme court and congress. yes, he will. >> i'm going to offer them an idea that they probably won't
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take because they always seem to do the opposite of what i suggest, i would come out next week and say, we are willing to deal on this. you have some good ideas. we want to make should work, regardless of what the supreme court says about the individual mandate, what can we work on now, chairman ryan, speaker boehner -- >> sean: he would never do it. >> it would be so politically smart. >> sean: all the opportunities this president has had just recently to have a sister soldier moment, for example. or to just back off. he never deviates from his rigid, radical ideology. >> after the victory of the republicans in 2010, most people thought this president would hue back to the center, do a bill clinton. he did not. he stay to the left. the pipeline -- he is still rejecting it. he is still out there on the left against it. every opportunity to move to the center has been rejected. >> in a way, i kind of respect that, based on principle. the problem is that they try to
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blame republicans for blocking the pipeline, or blame republicans for not going forward with immigration reform. i think it rings -- >> he's running against the banks, against wall street and the drug companies and the supreme court and congress. he is running against. >> the best line of the week is, i will transmit this to vladimir. i think that was a major development -- >> sean: we are going to get into that coming up. >> i wish i could stay! >> sean: i wish you could stay, too. we will have the hot mike issue and we continue to follow the trayvon martin shooting case out of florida. his parents were on capitol hill today at a briefing on hate crimes and racial profiling. we will play that video. later, it's our next installment of the real obama doing the work the media will not do. congressman paul ryan helps us vet the president. the president promising, just help me get elected, vladimir, i
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>> sean: there are new details in the shooting death of 17-year-old trayvon martin. now the man who shot him, george zimmerman remains in hiding. but yesterday his version of
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events came to light when the initial police report was leaked to the media, describing with he said was self-defense. the sanford, florida, police department says it is investigating that leak and they will not be releasing any official information about what they think happened that night. >> we are working to provide transparency of the actions of this department. in doing so, we will not compromise the integrity of any investigation to bend to the will of the media or the public. we realize that law enforcement may be viewed as an adversessary, but we assure you that we are here to protect and serve. >> sean: meanwhile, trayvon martin parents went to a panel to look to wayings to avoid a future shooting like. >> this we recognize that a lot of people are doing things on behalf of trayvon martin. we decided that we want this done peaceful. we want to you protest, we want to you rally, but we want to
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make sure that it's peaceful, it's a peaceful rally, so you can get your voices heard. >> sean: joining me is shannon butler, who has been following this story in orlando and radio talk show host, david webb, former prosecutor faith jenkins. welcome. shannon, let me start with you, one of the things that is coming out. you brewed the first eyewitness and put him on tape. and he was adamant in saying that in fact, it was trayvon martin that was on top of george zimmerman, pounding on and beating george zimmerman and others have apparently come forward. >> he was very clear about it, even this man said that he heard george zimmerman yelling for help while trayvon martin was on top of him and he said, beating his head into the sidewalk at that point. he told the cops, zimmerman, that he was roll yelling for help and he had no choice but to
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fire that gun. >> sean: what about other people who have come forward, shannon? >> there has been a lot of talk that people are saying, maybe it wasn't exactly like we thought. maybe there is more information out there. the police have now said, look, we wanted to charge him with manslaughter. but the state attorney told us we just didn't have enough information. so the cops at the time, the sanford police officers, some of them thought there was going to be a manslaughter charge here. if you look at that police report, it was not originally given to us, it says clearly in black and white, it says homicide. we asked questions, if that's what you thought in the beginning, why wasn't it done? now sources are telling us, that's because they didn't have enough evidence to do so. >> sean: let's talk, guys, and shannon stay right there. want only the rush to judgment. i go back to the l.a. times and they reported, what is the family's position isn't family,
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backed by local civil rights leaders say that martin was in danger, as any other african-american teenager out alone after dark because of his race. that was the initial narrative. we see that there have been many quote, civil rights leaders out there protesting. it appears now that this -- this is developing into a very different story than what has been portrayed. >> i think you are hearing the other side, which is george zimmerman's side -- >> sean: not just george zimmerman. but a witness that saw his head pound into the cement and him and trayvon martin on top of him, beating him up. >> i don't think there was a dispute that there was a fight. there was never a dispute that george zimmerman had these injuries -- >> sean: in the beginning, it was described as he was shot in cold blood. >> this was portrayed as a cold-blooded murder. the media didn't do its due diligence. the picture you showed at the
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beginning of the segment, this is one of the first times you have seen a picture of george zimmerman, not a a mug shot. this is a 17-year-old man. the narrative and the visual and the due diligence show this is collusion between the race hustlers. this is what andrew breitbart and i have been doing, showing things truthfully. media failed, sharpton, joe madison, mark thompson -- >> sean: we have -- >> this is important -- bernard crump -- sharpton was not reporting on this. bernard crump, the attorney for the family invited sharpton into this. this was a setup. why is this at the federal level now -- >> sean: before any facts are in. let me put up the words of minister farrakhan. where there is no justice, there will be no peace. very soon, the law of retaliation may be applied. the black panther party putting
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a bounto zimmerman's head. >> from the black community, we are already getting support from athletings and entertainers as we speak. by next week, we are looking forward to getting $1 million for the capture of george zimmerman. we are going to force our government to do their job properly. and if they doarngts we will. >> sean: now -- wait a minute. lich -- you have spike lee goes out on twitter -- gives out george zimmerman's address. >> those things are completely improper, inappropriate and even the bounty -- criminal. nobody should be doing that, that districts from what we should be focusing on. there are a few things in the very beginning. people were upset because, you know, it looks like there was this homicide and the investigation was short circuited. there are things in the beginning that the police didn't do, things that should be parts of their everyday checklist.
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voucher of the clothing of the shooter, voucher the gun, take a toxicology test -- >> sean: there's a legitimate point. i thought -- i didn't like whether they said, you know, we don't need you to do that. i want to go back to shannon. this is an important point. at that point, aren't we told now, what we learned in this leaked police report that zimmerman claimed that in fact -- i guess it was somewhat corroborated by the eyewitness that he was going back to the car and trayvon martin very well may have approached him at that point when he was going back to his car? >> that's what his friends are saying and that's what he told the police. he said, as soon as that dysdispatcher said we do not need you to follow him, there is an officer on the way, he said that he retreated back to his suv -- that's what he claimed -- >> sean: by the way. based on the location, does the eyewitness corroborate that that was close to the car? >> no.
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he hasn't said that. he did not say that to us. i think when the witness came out twasn't until he heard the commotion and he heard the screams of george zimmerman that he came out. the sanford police say there was a minute of time, they really don't know what happened. and that's that minute from where he saw the fight -- >> sean: real quick -- >> was he retreating? there is a minute that is in debate. >> what's really missing here is that the media drove a narrative led by the sharptons, jacksons. one of the witnesses that was interviewed, a 13-year-old black child. they wanted to drive a white hispanic. what does that mean? this is ridiculous. >> this would not have happened -- this would not have happened, okay? this kid would be alive today, if george zimmerman didn't look at him walking down the street and thought he was suspicious. so you can understand why some people are angry. you can understand why some people are upset --
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>> that doesn't turn to racism. the problem here -- >> it turns to racial profiling. >> no tdoesn't. no it doesn't. >> if you see a person, the notion -- >> sean: but this is the neighborhood that had a recent criminal incidents and so he sees somebody he doesn't know -- >> right -- >> sean: could it have been anybody. >> look at what he says, these a-holes always get away -- >> sean: was he talking about criminals? >> he was talking about him. he is looking at him -- [overlapping dialogue] >> here's the problem, trying to get to a race narrative. >> you can't ignore what happened here. >> i am not. bad police work does not mean racism. a-hole does not mean black, white, whatever. this neighborhood's 47% white. it is mixed -- >> sean: you are talking about a racial slur. >> that has not been confirmed. >> i have developed an opinion n what i heard. >> sean: thank you both for being with us.
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we will more coming up later in the program. we continue to do the work that the mainstream media refuses to do, which is vet the president. when we come back, we vet the president with the help of paul ryan and much more, strayed ahead. >> in front of us is one of the most predictable crisis we have ever had in this country. >> 47 million americans in poverty. >> his debt is a very large threat to the united states of america. >> gas prices doubled since he took office. >> our outstanding debt which has reached -- >> it's unsustainable. >> we have to bring fiscal restraint to the challenge of the times. [ male announcer ] the next generation of lexus cannot be contained. [ clang ] the all-new 2013 lexus gs. there's no going back. see your lexus dealer. there's no going back. some constipation medications can take control of you.
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>> sean: tonight, we continue the job the mainstream media refuses to do, vetting president obama. now in just over 3 years of his presidency, our national debt has increased by more than $4.9
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trillion. that's a greater increase than the 8 years under george w. bush. the debt is over $15 trillion. what is even more concerning from a national security standpoint is that nearly half of our publicly held debt is owned by foreign countries. you can see how that number has increased over the years. as we approach the november election, it is clear that we face a choice. we can continue on the path of fiscal insanity or chart a new course. here is the wisconsin congressman paul ryan. >> good to be with you ui watched chris wallace. he squeezed out of you the willingness that you would consider being v.p. you didn't like that line of questioning, did you? >> not really. >> sean: all right. we have other issues to deal with. >> thanks. >> sean: the democrats have put forward their budget. the president put forward their budget n. july of 2008, president obama said that george
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bush was unpatriotic. >> right. >> sean: and irresponsible for $4 trillion in debt over 8 years. this president has done that in less than four years. so the question remains, you know, how bad is it in and when you look at the democrats' plan and the president's plan, what does it mean for the country? >> it means a debt crisis. he is also saying, let's add another $11 trillion. if you take a look at the chart. the red tiital wave of debt. this is the most predictable economic crisis we have ever had, it's a debt crisis. the debt gets out of control and ends the american dream as we know it. the senate isn't even doing a budget. the president gave us a budget that, shows a mountain of red ink, more debt and the end of the american dream. the senate's not even bothering to pass a budget. we are passing a budget on thursday, like we did last year. we are showing the country exactly how we would get the debt paid off and that's the green line, specifically, our
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plan for getting government spending and borrowing under control and paid off. >> sean: let me go back to this chart here. as you know, they have demonized you ever time have you talked about dealing with the -- the foundation in terms of the problems that are the root cause of the problem, that's entitlements. >> that's right. >> sean: the green line is the republicans budget propoafs. you are saying the current path-- the red block there, that that is the president and the democrats' plan. >> yes. that's what -- that's even in the president's budget. he shows those numbers. that's what the government is telling us is our path of debt in the america that the president has accelerated. we are saying let's get off the path and get to debt reduction and paying the debt off. we are offering the country a choice of two futures. so we are going to the country and saying, here's what you need to do to get back to prosperity.
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limited government, a debt-free nation for your children. the sooner we do that, the easier it is to accomplish. the more you kick the can, the more imper periled our economy becomes. >> sean: people seem to be short sighted and myopic and think for the moment. if you look at the total government spending and you have the president's plan -- i have another chart i will put up -- and what they show as total government spending as a share of the economy, there's the current path and there is your path. neither one gets to a balanced budget, but there is a dramatic difference. it's 15% versus nearly 50% as a share of the economy. what is in that result if we stay on the path? you want to throw granny over the cliff, congressman? that's the way they portray you. if we stay on this path, what happens to the country? >> first, ours does get to
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balance. if you have better growth, ours gets to balance pretty quickly. but if you look at the chart, to put it in perspective, for the last 40 years, the federal government has taken 20 cents out of every dollar made in america to run the federal government. what this path that we are right now on, that the president is proposing says, by the time my kids are my age, let's take 40 cents to pay for the federal government. by the time my grandkids are raising their grandkid, we are taking 80 cents just to pay for this federal government at that time. no new programs, the current program promises that the government's making, that's what it will cost because of the explosion of the entitlement programs. we are showing the country the path we are on today, doubles and then doubles again, over the course of our kids' and grandkids' and our lifetimes. this is unsustainable.
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>> sean: we look at the gas prices, which is the single one issue that drives me nuts because it's preventible. the president is against, you know, drilling and using our own energy. that's obviously a clear difference there. i think that would help the economy, lift a burden off people who are paying $100 when they fill up their cars or trucks at the tank, at the gas station. bernanke says the job market remains weak. we know about the latest housing numbers are just awful, which are people's biggest investment. what happens if the bond market says, too much debt, we can't give it to you anymore -- >> we have a massive spike in interest rates. all the experts are telling us, we have 2 to 3 years, they tell us, which is the bond markets. remember, half of our debt is owned by foreigners. and 40 cents of every dollar government spends is borrowed money. so we are in debt to a huge amount. if the bond markets turn, the interest rates go up -- car
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loans, housing loans, business loans, home loans, all of that is really expensive. it shuts down and slows down the economy. at the same time, you can have an inflation problem that can get out of control. so your money isn't buying much because of the federal reserve -- >> sean: last question. >> so america is greece. america's broke if we stay on this path. you are saying that everything that has happened in greece comes here. is that what you are suggesting? >> yes. we think it's a debt crisis, cuts the seniors, huge tax increases that hurt the young from getting jobs and high interest rates. that's exactly what the experts are telling us will happen if we don't fix this problem. that's why we are proposing these solutions. >> sean: thank you. it's a warning that i hope people are paying attention to. when we come back, president obama whispers to the russians, i i will cave on missile defense, after the election. let not your heart be troubled. our great,
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>> sean: tonight on our great american panel, mike myers, a columnist with the daily caller, shawna feels and amelia antonety is here. president obama, speaking with the russian president, off mike -- just wait until i'm re-elected and then don't worry, i have this missile defense thing covered. we will see >> sean: what does he do? first of all, this gets a huge pause. more than what he said, i hope people are tuning in on the body language. more than anything else in that video, what bothers me was this -- when two men -- sorry.
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when two men have that kind of touch, which usually men are not, the lean-in and the body language, we have a problem. if somebody is not taking a look at this specific clip to say, this is on top of everything else, the debt -- >> sean: he's telling us what he will do in the second term, but not telling the american people. he is telling pretty much an enemy of the country, it is not iran or venezuela -- >> it's an off-line conversation. you can't do that. >> sean: i'll handle that. >> he has such a liberal and imbitious agenda. can you imagine, when he doesn't have to respond to the american people, he will make fdr look like a libertarian. >> he's sneaky. but that's nothing new. we know that,. >> sean: with our national debt. >> russia is not our friend. he should be communicating to
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russia and to the world and communicating to the united states that we are going to be a strong military power. he should be telling that to shad mir and everybody else -- >> you should not be in a submissive -- you are the president of the united states -- >> sean: perfect. >> i don't ever want to you submit to anything. >> charles krauthammer had it right. he said that this is -- barack obama's etch-a-sketch moment. not from an adviser burks from barack obama himself. >> sean: in pennsylvania, people clinging to their bibles and religion. we saw it with sarkozy and he you called netanyahu a liar. he said, what? i have to deal with this guy every day. >> and the bowing thing. what are you doing?! >> there is a side of obama -- he hides from us. all the time. i find this offensive, especially when we are talking about missile defense. the czech republic and poland. he has done this once before.
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>> sean: trayvon martin, a rush to judgment early on by the media. i argue we don't have all the facts in here. it's a tragedy. any time we have so much crime, so much violence, drugs, in so many communities around this country this, case has garnered national attention, what do you think about people jumping to judgment here? and nobody in the media seems to be held accountable. >> it's predictable, especially from the race demagogues when they can create and invent an issue, regardless of the facts. i believe in the justice system and due process. i believe in facts. so i am gratified that there has been a special prosecutor to look at now, forensics and ballistics, eyewitnesses and oral witnesses and get the facts out. yes, there has to be on the
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other side, a defense. so i don't like the idea that the person who was accused of something doesn't have a chance to say what happened. >> i think it's unfair that he is being prosecute in the media court. the fact of the matter is, i don't know what happened. you don't know what happened. no one knows what happened. i think it's unfair that the media's coverage doesn't reflect that fact. we don't have all the information. >> sean: the people who have been most responsible are the mainstream media. the nbcs of the world have been totally, completely, utterly biased and irresponsible. >> i think that happens now, i think fundamentally over the last decade, we no longer have journalists. we have really pretty talking heads who have no journalism background, which is supposed to be fair and objective and let the viewer come to the decision. they bring their opinion in and it is not -- journalism is a craft. it is something that we have
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upheld to say, i am being totally, absolutely objective in presenting both cases and now we -- if you go fox news, it's conservative. it shouldn't be that way -- [overlapping dialogue] >> i think it's misinformation. we heard it was a white person and now it's a white hispanic, they are trying to -- >> hua reporter there -- >> you have the media -- you have activist who is have been given tv shows and then they go out and march and they cover their own march and they come on tv and they give you opinions and they have their own valance of opinion makers who are giving a gloss. the civil race leaders are living in the past. they drive this racial rhetoric home every day, all day, on ms-nbc and public places and i'm sick of t. we don't need a white

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