>> rick: hello, everybody. welcome to a brand-new hour inside america's news headquarters. i'm rick folbaum. >> arthel: i'm arthel neville. topping the news, mitt romney out in full force in the badger state day trying to close the deal on the republican presidential nomination while getting hit with some troubling national poll numbers. we'll break it down for you. >> rick: also, we're going to talk about the weather and a water logged west coast, flooded rivers in oregon, cresting today. but the rain keeps falling. a lot of folks headed for higher ground. gale the latest from the fox news extreme weather center. >> arthel: fallout from the health care show down at the supreme court. can the nine justices avoid the 5-4 divide and a decision painted by politicses? we'll take a close look.

>> rick: we begin with cashing in, big time and three lucky ticket holders starting the weekend more than $200 million richer. winning lottery tickets were the record breaking $640 million mega millions jackpot sold in illinois, kansas, and maryland. that's where peter doocy is live outside a 7-11 store where one of those tickets was reportedly sold. hi, peter. >> hi, rick. i'm actually inside the store standing exactly where one of those new instant millionaires was standing about 23 hours ago. they stood right here in a line yesterday. came up to this red machine and let that machine pick the numbers. it was a quick pick. we're told the person was not a regular and that that is all that they bought. they didn't get a slushy or big gulp. they walked in, got a ticket and walked out. 7-11 at least knows what they look like but not precisely.

it was bought at 7:15. they reviewed the footage from the cameras. they say that in that one minute, four people bought tickets and they have no way of figuring out which one it is. but the state tells me even though they are normally closed on weekends that the lottery office, if this mystery man or woman tries to get ahold of them, they will make an exception. >> someone calls and says they've got the mega millions winning ticket, they need only give me a call. they will get straight to me and i'll be happy to talk to them. on sunday the office is closed, but we've got e-mail addresses. i'm sure if someone really wants to find us, they'll know how to do it. otherwise i'd expect they'll wait until normal business hours. >> word has spread fast here in baltimore county, maryland, that this machine is the one that sold the winning ticket. people have been coming in scanning their tickets that they bought here, all day. a few people -- one people won $500 today.

mostly that little screen, pops up a message that says not a winner, which is kind of depressing when you know something who is in this line less than 24 hours ago walked out $200 million richer. rick. >> rick: our producer says if people are walking by and rubbing the machine for luck hoping some of it rubs off on them. >> yeah. >> rick: peter doocy live in maryland for us, good to see you. thanks so much. >> arthel: good stuff. now to the race for the white house. three of the republican presidential candidates speaking today at a faith and freedom coalition event in wisconsin. ahead of tuesday's primary there. party insiders saying a win for mitt romney would allow him to focus solely on the general election and beating president obama. doug mcmckelway live. any hint that any of romney's

rifles are getting the message from kenny rogers, you got to know when to fold em? >> small hint that one of them is kind of getting that message, the others definitely not. newt gingrich acknowledged on friday that romney is now the likely nominee and that if he win, gingrich will help him to defeat president obama. but gingrich also suggested that romney doesn't reach that 1144 delegate threshold before the convention, we could see some horse trading in tampa. romney is campaigning like the presumtive nominee, speaking in wisconsin today. he took aim at the expansion of government under the obama administration. >> do you realize that government at all levels today consumes 37% of the total economy? 37%. and if we allow obamacare to stand, it will consume directly almost half or -- almost half of the total american economy! >> rick santorum also campaigning in wisconsin today, suggesting that the expansion of

government under the president's affordable care act came right from the commonwealth of massachusetts and its governor, romney. >> because he was the author of romneycare. he was the author of the first government takeover of health care. what president obama did was follow the blue print of massachusetts. we have a government takeover of health care because mitt romney ushered it in with ted kennedy. >> the real clear politics average has romney up in wisconsin over his closest rival, santorum. gingrich and paul lagging far behind. >> arthel: doug, wisconsin not the only state up for grabs tuesday, right? >> that's right. less attention being paid to maryland and the district of columbia where primaries are being held tuesday because they are two democratic strongholds that will not be considered crucial swing areas. but maryland is significant in that it matters for the first time in 40 years, if only because the nomination fight is

still dragging on. worth 37 delegates. >> arthel: they're counting them. every one counts. >> one by one. >> arthel: thank you. coming up later in our show, our political panel dives into some very tough national numbers out about mitt romney that might surprise you and be sure to tune in to fox news sunday. rick santorum is chris wallace's guest. check your local listing for program times. >> rick: fox news alert out of syria and the regime of bashar al assad declaring the yearlong rebellion in that country is over. that is not the case on the ground where the violence rages on. government forces pounding the city of homs with artillery. kofi annan, the former security general is leading a special envoy there urging syria to withdraw its troops as part of a peace deal. a little background, the uprising in syria began just over a year ago. riots were triggered by reports

that school children were tortured for writing antigovernment graffiti. since then, the u.n. estimates 9,000 people, civilians, have been killed. 30,000 refugees escaped to seek protection in another countries. 200,000 people have been displaced from their homes and we should point out that the rebellion lasted longer than any of the other uprisings during the so-called arab spring. >> arthel: new numbers, new rounds of diplomatic talks concerning iran's nuclear program, secretary of state hillary clinton announcing today iran and six world powers agreeing to meet in turkey on april 13. clinton made the announcement following a security conference in saudi arabia. >> it soon will be clear whether iran's leaders are prepared to have a serious, credible discussion about their nuclear program. whether they are ready to start building the basis of a resolution to this very serious

problem. it is up to iran's leaders to make the right choice. >> arthel: iran and the six nations met in turkey 14 months ago, but the talks ended after two days with no agreement. iran is arguing its new program is for energy and research purposes only. >> rick: new developments in the investigation into the shooting of afghan villagers allegedly at the hands of an american soldier, army staff sergeant robert bales charged with 17 counts of premeditated murder. his attorney is accusing investigators of stone calling, claiming his defense team was told they would have access to witnesses who are in a hospital, but then they discovered that those people had been released. >> the person who asked that question, doesn't know much about afghanistan right now. people get lost. i mean, so that was our opportunity. i mean, i am concerned. my gut from a defense lawyer standpoint is when the prosecutors are not cooperating,

there is a reason and that reason was because they don't really have much of a case. i don't know whether that's true here or not. but that's true in the past. >> rick: staff sergeant bales is being held at the military prison in kansas. >> arthel: protesters and civil rights leaders taking to the streets in the florida town where 17-year-old trayvon martin was shot and killed by a neighbor watch volunteer. >> what do we want? justice. >> arthel: about 1,000 people, including the reverend al sharpton and jesse jackson gathering outside the sanford police department vow to go continue demonstrations until an arrest is made. steve harrigan is live in sanford, florida right now. steve, what can you tell us? >> more than 1,000 protesters here out in front of the san ford police station for several hours today and hundreds of families also lining the road of

that march route, really people coming out of their houses, out of their business to see those marchers walk by. the chief demand is they want the shooter, 28-year-old george zimmerman, the admitted shooter who said he fired in self-defense, they said they want him arrested and they want him arrested now and they want the courts to sort it out. reverend al sharpton said without that arrest, there is a real threat here of civil disobedience. >> if we've got to escalate nonviolent praying here and see what they do as we pray in holy week, if we've got to go at those corporations, we will withdraw and sanction those corporations that are backing the stand your ground law. you will not spend our money to stand your ground law. >> there is a lot of speculation about whether and possibly when zimmerman could be arrested. the person in charge of that special prosecutor has given no public hint as to when that action could be taken, if it is at all. back to you in new york.

>> arthel: steve, thank you very much for that report there. >> rick: lot of rain in western oregon pushing several rivers past their banks. more wet weather is on the way, melting snow in the blue mountains only adding to the problem. it's all causing flood waters to spread across parks and pastures. we've been watching for tornado action in tennessee. maria molina is live with more on that. what's the latest? >> unfortunately, we're looking at a severe weather risk spreading across eastern portions of arkansas, through tennessee, northern alabama and mississippi. we have some activity ongoing now. but the one good piece of information is that currently we don't have any tornado warnings and we want to remind everyone that when those warnings get issued, you got to seek shelter immediately. here is a look at some of those thunderstorms across tennessee, south of nashville and moving through the huntsville area. we have two severe thunderstorm watches in effect, both until 9:00 p.m. central time. that means conditions are

favorable for thunderstorms to develop that could produce severe weather and severe weather in the form of large size hail, damaging wind gusts and even isolated tornadoes and we have a number of severe thunderstorm warnings where we're looking at that possibility. large size hail in excess of an inch in diameter. that could cause damage. heads up, the city of memphis, huntsville, alabama, keep in mind you could be looking at strong thunderstorms as we head throughout the rest of the evening, into the overnight hours. as far as the northwest, a lot of moisture out here across western parts of washington, oregon. we do have flood warnings in effect out here because of how much rain we've seen. many of the rivers are currently running at or just below flood stage. the one good news for that town of mapleton in oregon is that we're expecting the river out there to begin to recede. these are some images coming out of that area, that mapleton area in oregon where we're seeing a lot of flood water elevated river levels and again, we're expecting that river to gradually recede. so we're going to continue to

see more rain out there. so even if rivers are receding, you can still look at more flooded roadways in the area. we're continuing to see that moisture coming in through parts of northern california, all the way up into washington. the forecast for the next several days is we'll continue to see more storms impacting this region. some of this moisture making it all the way down in through central parts of california. you can see some to the west of fresno and across the higher elevations, you're getting snow. sierra could pick up over a foot of snow and further to the nor, we're also look at significant snow accumulation across the cascades, over two feet possible and a lot of rain on the coast. that area shaded in orange is basically where you can see three or more inches of rain along western washington. so it will produce concerns for flooding along local roadways. be careful if you're driving on the five, over the next 72 hours, we'll continue to see that moisture. also across northwestern oregon, that white stuff, right along the coast is snow, possibly on the beaches. accumulating this up to three

inches of it will be possible because it's going to be cold enough for the snow to make it to the ground and as you head eastward, completely different story. extreme warmth. temperatures over 30 degrees above average over across the plains and further to the south in texas, the high tomorrow could be 90 degrees. extreme heat again in texas. that's going to be the story for most of the summer is what we're expecting. >> rick: maria, thanks. >> arthel: the supreme court justices are preparing to make their individual rulings on president obama's health care overhaul. their decision is supposed to be impartial. but next, find out why at least one law professor says that may not be the case this time around. >> rick: plus, is mitt romney's popularity taking a bit of a hit? a new poll showing a record number of americans have an unfavorable opinion of the candidate. is this something he can overcome in time for the general election if he gets there? >> arthel: investigators say they've found a handwritten will and the blood of a missing utah

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>> arthel: new sign this is hour that mitt romney's popularity may be taking a hit and you're looking at live pictures of romney in pittsburgh, wisconsin. he's at an event supporting governor scott walk who are is facing a recall election. the latest abc news "washington post" poll showing just 34% of americans have a favorable opinion of romney, while 50% have an unfavorable one. that's a higher negative than president obama has ever received and, in fact, the same poll shows a majority of americans have a favorable opinion of the president. so is this something that romney can rise above? adam goaler is a gop pollster and founder and ceo of national research. marjorie clifton from clifton

consulting and editor of go vote.com. good to see you. >> good to be here. >> arthel: adam, i'm starting with you because when my mom is confused about something, she just goes, what seems to be the problem? adam, i ask you, what seems to be the problem? >> absolutely nothing. first of all, a couple of things. where to begin really. this favorable thing is silly. favorable, for a guy that has taken it from all ends in the republican primary is a silly measurement in the spring. number two, when you look at president obama's favorable, favorables don't correlate to his ballot. he could be a nice guy, there is a lot of people who can say, i like barak obama as a person. i just think he's a terrible president. it turns out that that's when most people actually think because when you look at his job approval rating and all of these other measurements and countless other very well respected public poll, his numbers are terrible. so a favorable rating really means nothing.

i'll tell you what, after the week that obama had, the terrible week with the hot mic and the supreme court oral arguments and congress completely dismissing his budget, i think those numbers are going to go down. i just have a funny feeling. with mitt romney, as soon as he cleans up the nomination, which he's about to do and focuses on obama, numbers will go up. >> arthel: the numbers go up and down. you may have a point. we'll see. but marjorie, you've got president bush, the father. you have governor bush, paul ryan, marco rubio, all endorsing governor romney. and you still see that half of the americans in terms of favor ability don't like the governor. i went to your web site and noticed one of the top stories is they're saying they're yearning for romney's personal side. is that what voters want to see, that perhaps will change their favor ability preponderance of goff romney? >> i think one of his biggest struggles is with trust and likeability. i think right now that's sort of what he shifted to is becoming a much more of that down-to-earth

guy. he's showing up a lot more casual at the events he's going to. the biggest opportunity romney has is the fact that one in six americans still haven't made a decision about romney. and this is by proxy of how early we are in the election cycle. what really matters is the likeability of him six months out. we're talking about in august. so it's unique now because we have very public primary races and in 1980 and years ago, we didn't see the same kind of campaigning that happens. so now he gets the endorsements of these high level republican, i think it will effectively create a snowball effect to bring a lot more favor ability to him. but his struggle throughout, and this has been throughout the primary season, has been seeming down-to-earth, seeming approachable. in a struggling economy, especially, he needs to be that guy you want to sit down and have a beer with and understands your financial woes. >> arthel: does marjorie is a point that when it appears the governor tries to get personal and show his personal side, he kind of puts his foot in his

mouth? no one begrudges him for being very wealthy. good for him. that's with america is all about. but when you start talk being your friends who own nascar companies and in wisconsin, tried to relate with the people, the governor mentioned that his father, former governor, closed down a plant in massachusetts and moved it over to that plant ended up going to wisconsin. here he is trying to relate to the folks there -- i'm sorry? >> there is no question that governor romney does struggle to find that sort of common perception. marjorie does raise a lot of good points. you know what the bottom line is? the bottom line is that the presidential election is really a referendum on the incumbent. it's whether or not barak obama -- forget whether you like him or not. has barak obama done a good enough job to deserve reelection? that's really what the question is going to be. can i vote for somebody -- and i may not be crazy about him, but this other guy needs to be replaced. that's going to be the decision that more than a few people will be thinking.

the other thing i want to say is i've got a feeling as marjorie said, that after the primary is done and come august and come september when people really start to focus on this, you don't know where you're going to be in terms of the favorability. you do know that -- >> arthel: the favorability doesn't matter, right? >> the favorability of a challenger matters far less than the job approval of the incumbent. >> arthel: marjorie? >> i would agree with adam on that. i think the primary issue will be the economy. if it's on the up and up, obama's favorability has been increasing and i think that will continue to be the trend. it really comes down to what is the economy doing in six months from now. that will determine i think the race. now, beyond that, i think where romney has the biggest challenge is the fact he has a much lower percentage of support from his base, which is a conservative, where as obama has a much higher percentage support from his base >> marjorie is exactly right and that's a function of a heavily

contested primary. what has to happen is that base sicks around him. >> arthel: you have that. >> so to focus on that stuff right now, you know, that's going to close up. the battle we can all agree is going to be among the independents, in several states. and we'll see what happens. right now obama's job approval among independents is in the 40s and that's not good enough. >> arthel: you'll be happy to hear this, adam got the last word. time is up. it's over. that plant was in michigan that i was talking about. but you guys got the point. adam geller and marjorie, thanks for your perspective. >> thanks for having us. >> rick: selma, alabama, small southern town that played a pivotal role in the civil rights movement in the '60s and half a century later, racial tensions still exist there. one group is trying to change that. >> if you really, like, get in there and like really see beyond the main street or whatever,

then you'll see more of, like, segregation and the bad population. >> rick: she and her friends making the 1,000-mile journey from their racially divided hometown to new york city. for many it's their first time out of alabama. >> i've never seen so many big buildings all close together. >> rick: this energetic group is involved in the freedom foundation and it's random act of theater programs. the organization is trying to build a better future for these kids who live challenging lives. >> we're walking down the street in new york is way different than walking down the street in selma. kiki and i were to walk down the street specifically, they'd be like, who are they? you get these looks, you get, like, comments. >> rick: their visit to the big apple, including a workshop where they learned about discrimination, the topic they're all too familiar with. >> a lot of my grandparents and stuff tell me a lot about it and i learned a lot about it in

school. when martin luther king and all the other black people marched across the bridge. >> rick: the highlight of their get away? seeing the broadway hit "memphis." the show that tackles racial tensions through the power of music. ♪ >> rick: the producers of "memphis" hosted thousands of kids through their program called inspire change. if you would like to get involved, check out the web site, memphis the musical.com. >> arthel: george jones spending another night in the hospital battling an upper respiratory infection. when doctors say the country music icon may be released. >> rick: and young adults are turning their backs on car ownership. could america's traditional status symbol regain its status among the millenials? don't go away. [ male announcer ] introducing a powerful weapon in your fight against lawn weeds.

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>> rick: bottom of the hour on a busy saturday. a big payday for three lucky lottery ticket holders. illinois, kansas and maryland all boasting winners of the record breaking $640 million mega millions jackpot. also search teams are stepping up their efforts to locate a missing runner who vanished four days ago. 60-year-old micah true was last seen going out for a routine run in 20-degree weather wearing only shorts and a t-shirt. there is late word that country music legend george jones will now be staying in the hospital. he's been there since tuesday. currently being treated for an upper respiratory infection. his publicist slamming earlier reports that the singer had come down with pneumonia.

>> arthel: some newly unsealed court documents are revealing new information into the disappearance of a utah mom. susan powell vanished in 2009. her husband, josh, was a person of interest, but was never charged. josh and his children all died when he set his washington state home on fire back in february. now a prosecutor in washington says there was enough evidence in his opinion, to charge him with susan's murder. anna is live in our new york city news room. what did you find? >> top story to relive. gruesome evidence from unsealed files brought to light friday have authorities in washington state and utah at odds over how the disappearance of soup powell should have been handled. authorities found a handwritten will saying she didn't trust her husband and if she died, it may not be an accident. her blood was found on the floor next to a sofa that appeared to be recently cleaned and life insurance policies totaling 1 1/2 million dollars with josh the beneficiary. josh powell always maintained

his innocence, but a washington state prosecutor says this would have been enough to lock him up in his state. >> i read enough to say that there is direct evidence in here, there is circumstantial evidence in here and there is motive. there is everything but the body. >> susan was reported missing in 2009. josh claims he last saw her before going camping with his two sons, braiden and charlie. the documents say charlie told police his mother went with them, although she didn't come back. utah police stand by their actions, saying there was not enough evidence to arrest him at the time, but have not ruled out murder and kidnapping in what they still call a missing person's case. >> my department is committed to locating susan as well as bring a res delusion this case. that's why it's still active. >> a lawyer for josh's dad, steven powell, requested the documents be unsealed. steven is facing child pornography and voyeurism charges. the investigation into his father led josh to lose custody of his boys. he then murdered them and

committed suicide, setting his house on fire as you saw last month. >> arthel: anna, sad story on so many levels. thank you for that report. >> rick: switching gears now, new studies giving an interesting look into american's changing habit in the wake of the recession. more people are now paying off their car loans before making payments on their credit card debt or even their mortgages. a traditional american status symbol, the car, may no longer be a priority for teen-agers and young adults, signs of a generational shift or lousy economy still at work? patricia powell is ceo of powell financial group and joins us now. always nice to have you. thanks for coming in. two topics. let's talk about the car loans. what do you make of this study that people are paying off their car loans? i guess it's easier to have your car repossessed than anything else. >> 90 days. if you're delinquent 90 days, you're car is gone. on the other hand, if you stop paying your mortgage, it takes years to foreclose on anybody now adays. with credit cards, you can

negotiate a little bit with the lender. but if you need to get to work, you better have your car. >> rick: right. but aren't there long-term consequences? for example, but not paying -- or skip ago couple of mortgage payments or having to call your credit card company and work out some kind of an arrangement that, could negatively impact someone's credit history. >> you're absolutely trashing them. and so the next time you go to get a car loan, you may not get one. or the next time you want a credit card, you may not get one. i would be very careful, but a lot of people are in dire straits economically and making hard choices. >> rick: part 2, who is not buying cars? the millenial, the people born from 1980 to 1990? >> right. these are the people that have entered the work force in the 21st century and they're buying cars at a much lesser rate than in the past. >> rick: why? >> it's a great question. the auto makers are really puzzling over this. some of it may be that they

don't have the job prospects that others have had. some of it may just be they have different attitudes. they've been really scarred economically if you think about it. they started entering the work force when the dot com bubble burst in that recession. then they watched the 9-11 and we entered two wars and we have the economic fallout from that. then you had the enronitis with the looting of corporate america. just as the economy is recovering, we enter the banking recovery of 2008. they're thinking we can't get a break. they're probably as different from the baby boomers who are their parents are the baby boomers were from their parents and grandparents who came through the great depression. >> rick: it might have to do with where these people live. age group tends to live more in urban area where it might not be as crucial to have your own car. >> that's correct. and what's really scary to the auto companies is almost 90% of them want to live in an urban area. they want to walk to work. they want to take mass

commutation. the status symbol of the car, the magazine wheels, the bucket seats, that is just not there yet. the status symbol may just be at the apple store. you go and seat lines forming from the new iphone or new ipad. kids walking along. they want white head phones. >> rick: somebody is buying cars. the car industry is doing much better. must be some millenials as we look at these kids with the ipads. patricia powell, missense to see you. >> i appreciate it. >> arthel: if the white ear buds are the thing, the status symbol, put spinners on mine. sorry, guys. moving on, sort of continuing in the economic theme. pay cuts, we're talking about high health insurance costs and heavy work loads taking their toll on much of the work force, forcing some employers to get creative to keep frustrated workers happy. what is being done to beat the blues? anita vogel is live in los angeles with a look at some quirky perks, huh?

>> yeah, that's right. hi. companies feel they have to do something to stay competitive. if they can't offer the big bucks and they have to come up with something pretty unique to keep and recruit talented workers. these perks we're talking about are wide ranging. companies like toy manufacturer mattel, they take pride in their innovative benefit programs. here you'll find everything from on site fitness centers and dry cleaning to pet insurance, even half day fridays year round. the experts tell us other companies use these types of perks to offset heavier work loads, higher health insurance cost asks reduced 401(k) matching. but no matter what the reason, apparently it's good for business. >> when employees are happy, those companies show up on those top places to work list and i do think perks have a huge -- are a huge part of really signaling that a company cares about its employees and wants to go out of its way to make sure the employees are engaged.

>> take, for instance, natural habitat adventure, the travel company based in boulder, colorado. its founder wanted to create an office just like home to staff so they would look forward to coming in. here you can find pets running around and even beer on tap. and it's working. outside magazine voted it the number one place to work over the past several years. >> very important for me that they stay here forever and many our people have been here 15, 17 years. that's really where we want to be. we want to be in a spot where our staff want to be here for a full lifetime of their employment. >> and some of the other perks you'll find around the country, meditation and massages at your desk. we could use that here at the fox news channel. long paid sabbatical with adoption and invitro fertilization help and free breakfast and lunch. who said there was no free lunch? back to you. >> arthel: very good. they treat us well here. they do treat us well. >> yes, they coo. >> arthel: nice to see you and

i've got to go to other colleague now with some important news. rick? >> rick: breaking news, it's not good if you're a new york basketball fan. we're getting word that nicks guard jeremy lin is probably going to miss the rest of the season. he has had knee surgery. the team saying lin had an mri exam this week. it revealed a small tear. you'll remember that he was the undrafted harvard alum who became a starter back in february after turning in a series of brilliant performances on the basketball court, the phenomenon became known as lin sanity. lin probably out for the year we'll be right back.

>> rick: as the supreme court decides whether or not to strike down president obama's health care reform law, it's a given that the nine justices will look through the law, look at the law through a a neutral political lens. or is it? our next guest believes the supreme court is just as political as any washington

institution. susan is a fox news contributor and susan, you're a proud democrat. so it's pretty easy to figure out where you might come down on this. but i was interested to hear this past week from a man named charles freed who used to be the general phoronid reagan, a fellow how professor, i believe. he says it sounds like the conservative justices were reading questions that were written for them by the tea party. what do you think? >> well, first i should say that charles and i were colleagues for ten years and while we didn't agree about politics, we were great friends. i really have great respect for him. >> rick: do you agree with what he's saying now? >> i think it's going to be 6-3. i want to go on tape saying this. >> rick: you're guessing that justice kennedy and justice roberts, i'm guessing, are going to vote with the liberal side? why do you say that? >> well, two reasons. first of all, we talk about

looking at this apolitically. by the time a question of constitutional law gets to the united states supreme court, the one thing you know is that there are arguments on both sides. 40 years ago, 50 years ago, people thought, the court thought it was unconstitutional under the commerce clause to have a minimum wage. so i can argue and i do believe, that it is completely constitutional for congress to regulate health care markets. since all of us go into it at one point or another and you can't buy insurance at the emergency room door, it's not like broccoli. >> rick: justice kennedy didn't seem very persuaded by that, at least not if you listened to the questions that he had for the attorneys. >> i did listen to the questions, but i learned a long time ago, i've been a lawyer for -- for 30 something years, that you can't judge by what questions they ask. whether they were written by the tea party or written themselves,

i've seen judges and justices ask questions where you say, well, that's for sure he or she's going that way. then they turn around and it turns out they're asking the toughest questions they can think of so that when they go back to write appear opinion, they have answers. i think this will be a narrow opinion. but i really don't think -- first of all, i think they should uphold the law on the merits, but i don't think that chief justice roberts, who ultimately is responsible for the legitimacy of the court wants, in the middle of a partisan political election, to see a decision in which you've got five republican justices going this way and four democrat justices going the other way. and the country saying look, this is a partisan political court. and it doesn't deserve the legitimacy it has. >> rick: we keep these tapes, so we'll go back i guess after june when we find out what the court decides and we'll go back and listen. susan's vote is 6-3 in favor of keeping obamacare the way that

it is. always good to see you. >> great to see you. >> rick: arthel, you are having early breakfast? >> arthel: yeah. great analysis. but i got a fancy bagel. new yorkers love bagels. but you don't have to be in new york to get an authentic bagel. i'm going to tell you where. "consumer reports," even better, they're going to tell us where you can get the best ones right in a neighborhood near you. when'the show? well, if we don't find an audience, all we'll ever do is rehearse. maybe you should try every door direct mail. just select the zip codes where you want your message to be seen, print it yourself, or we'll help you find a local partner and you find the customers that matter most. brilliant. clifton, show us overjoyed. no, too much. jennessa. ah! a round of applause. [ applause ] [ male announcer ] go online to reacevery home, every address, every time with every door direct mail.

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>> rick: did you have your bagel this morning? >> arthel: i did not. >> rick: you probably are one of the few people in new york not to have a bagel. everybody in new york has bagels for breakfast! but they're beginning to gain popularity all over the country. >> arthel: now if you don't have a big apple style bagel shop near you, it's still possible to find that authentic taste and texture in the stores. "consumer reports" puts them to the test for their april issue. bringing in sue perry, the deputy editor of "consumer reports" shop smart magazine. all right. >> rick: i'm not buying it. let me just tell you right off the bat, these are -- they don't look like new york bagels and they're not going to taste like it either. >> we say that. what we did to do this test is we ate new york style bagels, new york bagels, and that was the gold standard and based our

testing on those to meet those standards. they had to come as close to meeting the standard of the new york style bagel as possible. none of them did. so truth told, none did, but they came as close as -- we tested 12 supermarket bagels and a fast food bagel. this is costco store brand bagel. >> rick: do you mind if i -- >> try it. when we taste these, we don't toast them or put cream cheese on. they're just bagels. you want to get flavor of the bagel. >> arthel: this is third? n this is third. this is the third out of 12. >> arthel: from costco? >> from costco. >> arthel: this one here? >> this is our lenders. this is in the freezer case at the supermarket. >> rick: this is the lender's bagel -- doesn't even look like a bagel. come op. >> also the fewest calories.

>> rick: really? i'm the only one eating. >> arthel: you're the taster today. >> give it a try. >> arthel: you're the new yorker. you know about the bagels. >> rick: i'm not a new yorker, but i've lived here long enough to know what they should taste like. >> arthel: you're all over it. i'll let you handle it. >> rick: i don't care for that either. >> this is 4 winner. from dunkin' donuts. we tested plain and tested the everything style as well, from all the different bagel makers and these are -- this is the everything style from dunkin' donuts, a plain. >> arthel: it's crunchy. >> rick: none of these are bad. but they're not new york bagels. >> that's what we say. they are not new york bagels. but if you don't live in new york and you're looking for something that's a decent bagel in your supermarket or fast food place, these are some really good options. >> arthel: thank you for trying. you know what these are? these are agels.

when gumbo is not quite gumbo, it's uhmbo. these are agels. but we love seeing you. >> i love being here. >> arthel: did you really have a bagel this morning? >> rick: i did, yes, i did. we have bagels in my house for breakfast. toast them. kids love them, i love them. my wife has some sometimes. >> they're low fat, they're pretty good. >> arthel: we have to go, but don't go anywhere because harris faulkner is coming up next with a fox report. we're going to taste some bagels [ male announcer ] for making cupcakes and deposits at the same time. for paying your friend back for lunch from your tablet. for 26 paydays triggered with a single tap. for checking your line, then checking your portfolio.

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