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>> judge jeanine: tonight on "justice," the trayvon martin shooting. can for len sicks prove what really happend that night? and. >> you can make people buy broccoli. >> it obama care survive the supreme court? attorney general pam bondy give is us her take. plus, the jetblue meltdown and will google be listening in on your calls? coming up tonight on "justice." hello and welcome to "justice" i'm judge jeanine pirro. we have the attorney for martin's family herenue's
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tonight. first, valerie joins us. welcome, valerie. >> thank you. >> judge jeanine: i understand that al sharpton and jesse jackson were in florida today for a rally. what happened today? >> we had around a thousand people turn up for a rally in front of of the sanford police department. it was reverend jackson and al sharpton and the naaacp calling for the arrest of george zimmerman and they say they will boycott businesses that support the stand your ground law until that happens >> judge jeanine: how are they deciding which businesses support stand your ground? >> they said we need to start boycotting these businesses. really said nothing about maybe not supporting the lawmakers
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who support the law. only that we need to try and find the businesses that support the law. >> judge jeanine: what is the move in the community? >> many people understand they need to have patience and faith in the system and again i will say that everyone has been very well behaved here. >> judge jeanine: thank you for joining us this evening. now, to the forensics. what do they tell us about what happened the night that trayvon martin was killed. dr. michael baden joins us along with the host of the dr. steve show and joe matthews, former homicide detective and criminal investigator from miami beach, florida. welcome, gentlemen. all right, dr. baden if the fight that occurred before trayvon martin was shot is as severe as the zimmermans are leading us to believe what would you expect to see on trayvon's body? >> on trayvon's body.
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>> judge jeanine: on trayvon. >> first of all, a bull let hole that would tell the person doing the autopsy how far away the weapon was at the time of discharge and the position of the two people at the time of discharge which is very important. we don't know anything about that yet because they haven't released that report. usually in a severe struggle there may be injuries to the happens or face if they were struck. >> judge jeanine: let's take a look at this sound on tape. >> george was out of breath. he was barely conscious. his last thing he remembers doing was moving his head from the concrete to the grass so that if he was banged one more time he wouldn't be wearing diapers for the rest of his life and being spoonfed by his brother and there would have been george dead had he not act decisively and instantaneously in that moment when was weeing disarmed. >> judge jeanine: dr. salvatore you were an emergency room physician in many hospitals in
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new york. what would you expect to see on the person who was beat ton the point where george zimmerman's brother describes him being beaten to. >> you would expect bruising on the back of the head and there were reports that he was hit in the nose. the early police reports said there was blood from the nose and the back of the head. that is what you can expect. the exact details of how many times he was hit and what was he hit with, an elbow, a palm of a hand, we don't know. >> judge jeanine: when they say and we have a picture up here on the screen that shows george zimmerman being brought into police headquarters within an hour of the incident itself and as you can see it appears he gets out of the police vehicle with his hands cuffed behind his back and saunters over and walks around. does this guy look like he was just in a fight that was less than an inch of his life? >> the video is inconclusive.
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he didn't lose consciousness. he says his head struck the ground a number of times. this is 45 minutes later. it is not unreasonable to expect he could be walking. did that happen? i don't know. i don't think anybody can tell from the video. >> judge jeanine: i speak to his lawyer last saturday night he said my client was beaten, bloodied on the back of the head, his nose was broken and his leap was bleeding. wouldn't you expect to see some blood on this guy's shirt within a few minutes of the incident itself? >> i think the clothing is extremely important. they can wash off blood from the face or back of the head oooo-oooo but can't wash off blood from the clothing and if someone had a a fractured nose as was claimed by various people there would be blood coming down and dripping on to the shirt and to the pants. >> he could have been on his
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back the whole time. what i'm trying to say if it's there it is helpful but if it is not there -- >> it doesn't exclude it. >> judge jeanine: for all the blood and all the injury. the guy is walking around. i didn't see swelling on his face. i don't see limping. we have videos and i'm sure he was talking to the police they videotape and we would see his face better. what about gun shot spatter? there was a gun shot wound that was very close. >> that is what the examination will tell us. if it wasn't close it doesn't ayear with some of the story. >> judge jeanine: if it is not close does that tell you more likely it was a homicide? >> it is a homicide because one person killed another and the death certificate should say homicide on it. whether it is a crime or not. >> judge jeanine: or accident. were they fighting over the gun. we don't know either.
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we don't know which it is, right, doctors? >> the death certificate would say homicide. >> judge jeanine: but we don't know what it says, do we. in. >> the funeral director knows that and i haven't heard him say. >> judge jeanine: did he tell you? want to give us an exclusive, doc? all right. detective matthews if there is blood from the nose and the lip and a shooting fatality what would you as a homicide detective who responded to many of the scenes, what is the first thing you do? >> recover the clothes. that was the most important thing. we are talking about you are not going to have blood spatter from a firearm but you will have blood spatter from multiple shots to the face. when i mean shots hits to the face. the first punch to the close is going to cause the bleeding. you are not going to get blood spatter but the second and third you are going to get blood spatter. i hope they would recover not only the clothes from the medical examiner but the clothes of the suspect and you would see how many -- each punch would lead a pattern so
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you you could pretty much count how many punches. >> judge jeanine: you are nodding to that. >> the first gets the blood going and the second spatters it. >> judge jeanine: what about bull let wounds to trayvon? wouldn't there be a lot of blood on the scene itself? >> not necessarily. >> judge jeanine: why not? >> because if he is shot in the front and lying on his back for example the blood would not come out. if he is laying face down there should be blood as was described in the police report then they would expect blood on his clothing at least. but blood doesn't spatter as much from a billion let as it does from a blunt object. >> judge jeanine: because, dr. salvatore? body,n a bullet enters a body it is hot. people think there is blood everywhere and that is not what happened at all. plus it is going through the
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clothing. >> judge jeanine: should zimmerman have been tested for alcohol and drugs. >> you would do it to the suspect. >> and they didn't do it here? >> judge jeanine: should the police have taken the cell phone from trayvon's body and checked the telephone numbers that he made before he die. >> in every motor vehicle or bus accident or train accident the first thing they do is look at the phone to see if they are texting while they are driving. it is technology that we have and they he have to take advantage of it. >> judge jeanine: if they didn't do it, is that something that should be criticize. >> i would criticize it. >> judge jeanine: we heard the police wanted a charge, the state's attorney wouldn't go for it. the police still could have made an arrest if they wanted to, yes, or no? >> yes, probable cause. >> judge jeanine: all right. thank you so much. >> thank you, judge. >> judge jeanine: up next, the attorney who represents the trayvon martin, family. his reaction to our for are ren sicks. forensics. today, we stand against the tyranny of meager travelards.
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>> judge jeanine: daryl parks represents trayvon martin's family. thank you for being with us this evening. >> thank you for having me. >> judge jeanine: all right. doctor steve salvatore just was remarking that the video that we have seen of george zimmerman as he comes out of the car with his behind his back in cuffs and the visual of him just doesn't appear to be traumatized or certainly not bloody is not inconsistent with a fight that might have occurred to the extent that zimmerman described it. does that make sense to you? >> well, it doesn't make sense. this particular video that we have seen we now know happened within 35 minutes of the actual events. as he gets out of the car no apparent distress whatsoever.
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we see him walking. his gait is normal. the guy looks just fine. i would think that is a person says he was beat ton almost unconsciousness, one step from needing diapers would be a lot worse off than what we see in the video, judge. >> judge jeanine: and i have to tell you i happen to agree with you on that. but there are doctors that say that this could be consistent. but, you know, one of the things that we do know, darryl, is that there was a cry for help three times. how do you know that it was trayvon that cried for help and not george zimmerman as he and his family would have you believe? >> trayvon's family has listened to the tape also and they believe it was trayvon whose voice you hear. also as you may have seen on the orlando sentinel breaking news they had two sound experts listen to the tape and they all agree that is trayvon and not george zimmerman. it is leaning in our favor in a
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great way now, judge jeanine. >> judge jeanine: and what is interesting is three screams for help and as i understand it trayvon's mom ran out of the room crying when she heard the screams for help which is kind of an emotional confirmation. they say they didn't have enough evidence to make an arrest. what is your reaction to that? >> i think the police had it right. the lead investigator was on the scene who saw all of the evidence, didn't really buy zimmerman's story. felt strongly about charging the case and for whatever reason and i think we will find out at some point in this case why would the state to against him and why would the police chief not make sure that that guy was charged. one of the more interesting things that we are going to find out later on is why did they not move forward and charge mr. zimmerman with this awful death of trayvon martin.
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>> judge jeanine: it is interesting. there is a statement from the sanford police department and they say that he provided a statement where he acted in self-defense and it was supported by the physical evidence and the testimony. i'm reading that here. now, your -- trayvon had a cell phone on him which would have indicated that he was speaking to his girlfriend within minutes of his being shot and killed. do you know whether or not the police spoke to trayvon's girlfriend that night before they made the decision to let zimmerman go? >> my understanding is that they did not. not only that, though, judge, they list trayvon's home phone number on the first police report and they did not call his mother. >> judge jeanine: all right. and also the fact that he was admitted to the morgue as john doe when they listed his phone number on the police report and on the police report i believe it said suspected manslaughter,
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unnecessary force. i mean obviously you have to be very frustrated by this. >> we are more than frustrated. you know, it is one thing to lose your child and to go through that pain but it is another thing to go after problem after problem after problem in the police investigation that seems like basic police procedure to me. >> judge jeanine: and what about the fact there are inconsistent icies. witnesses saying trayvon was on top. witnesses saying zimmerman was on top. how do you make sense of this? what do you know? >> one must go to the tape. we have the tapes of zimmerman following trayvon. they tell him not to get out of the car. zimmerman says that i'm following him. we have the young lady clear as she was talking with trayvon he says that this man is following me and she overhears part of the initial al initial alterca.
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he should have been charged in the homicide and then we will let the courts decide the rest. >> judge jeanine: are you confident that justice will be served? >> i believe in my heart of hearts, yes, i do. >> judge jeanine: thank you. up next, she is one of the state attorney's general who brought obama care to the united states supreme court. and then a jetblue pilot wigs out at 30,000 feet. imagine being on that plane. can the passengers on that flight sue? would you?
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could you define the market? >> everybody has to buy food sooner or later so you define the market as food therefore everybody is in the market and therefore you can make people buy broccoli. >> judge jeanine: that was supreme court justice scalia. pam bondy, attorney general for the state of florida joins us. welcome, general bondy. >> thank you, judge, for having me on tonight. >> judge jeanine: all right. can you tell us what is going to happen in the supreme court? >> we feel confident. we feel confident and you know being a judge you can never predict. but i can tell you i feel confident and i love that quote that you played because that was one of the quotes that i wrote down and circled when i was sitting in the courtroom that day because that was one of my favorite quotes from justice scalia. that says it all. you know, judge, this is such an overreach of the federal government like none we have
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ever seen ever in our history. and that is why this case is so very important. and that is why it extends so much further than healthcare because if they can do this there would be no limits whatsoever on the federal government. >> judge jeanine: and there is no question, the precedent that would be established by this would be incredible and they could keep chipping away and chipping away and obviously forcing americans into a stream of commerce to be able to require them to buy something. if the individual mandate is upheld, what does it mean to everyone who is required, you know, to insurance themselves? what are we talking about per person? >> we firmly believe that the individual mandate will be struck down as being unconstitutional. we as states, of course, going to follow the law. and that is what we have done so far. we sued the federal government and we got a great opinion in the northern district of florida and everybody kept saying it is political and then we got the best bipartisan
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decision in the country out of the 11th circuit court of appeals. we firmly believe this will be struck down as being johnson constitutional. if it is not it would put, florida, out of business basically. they are saying with the medicaid co- >> karch: and saying this to every state if you don't participate in this program we can take away every single penny of your medicaid funding and in florida conservatively that is well over a billion dollars a year that florida would lose and that is hard earned tax dollars by floridians. >> judge jeanine: no question. but the concept of insurancing an additional 30 million people at the expense of people being required to buy insurance it has to be hefty on everyone. but obama care grants waivers to certain individuals and like unionsps leak lineons already. the one that stood out to me,
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is the one of illegal immigrants. why should i have be burdened with having to purchase insurance for people who are illegal immigrants. >> you shouldn't and hopefully after june you won't. that is absolutely right. you know, and then they pass this over 2700-page bill without reading it. they haved a metd that they hadn't fully read it without looking at the actuaries and now we are reading it is over $3 trillion. it is ridiculous. it would bankrupt our state and bankrupt our country. what i'm hearing all over my state what i'm hearing from businesses, businesses stopped hiring. they are scared to death because they don't know what is going to happen. >> let's assume that the mandate does pass and is found to be constitutional then how is it enforced? it is not a tax. it is a penalty so they say. >> right. well, yeah, and that is -- we could talk about that for awhile.
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one day they are arguing it aspennalty and one day they are arguing it as tax and justice alito questioned them about that as well. but they had to argue it is not a tax because we had our president all over the news saying it is not a tax. and, of course, that is what they are trying to do is they are trying to penalize and fine us by not participating in the program. >> judge jeanine: if the individual mandate fails does the entire law fail? >> generally speaking if the individual mandate fails that is the heart, that is the heart of this statute. if the mandate fails, the federal government generally agrees with us on this. the huge portions of obama care fail as well. >> judge jeanine: we certainly will all be watching and thanks to attorney general pam bondi on certainly one of the most important cases that the supreme court will rule on in many, many years. just a thought, it is interesting. we live in a country where not everyone has to show proof of citizenship but every citizen
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goodness, keep it private as long as you can. i'm harris faulkner in new york. now, back to "justice" with judge jeanine. >> judge jeanine: spike lee tweets what he thought was george zimmerman's address to his quarter million followers. he was wrong. the couple who do live at the address had to go into hiding and if you think that is bad wait until you hear what the new black panther party is doing. arthur aydala and joey jackson. okay guys. the new black panter party calls for the capture of george zimmerman dead or alive and a
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$10,000 bounty. can these people be arrested joey? >> completely irresponsible. shouldn't happen. that being said, people say irrational and stew pit things and you know that. as a result of that the question is what cull pability or liability will they have for making the statements. >> judge jeanine: that is my question to you. >> i would suggest they won't be arrested as a result of saying that. >> judge jeanine: aren't they inciting to violence. >> they would be held responsible if something happens to zimmerman. let's say some nut comes and blows zimmer mann away or tries to harm him and he says i was following what i was told by the black panthers. >> goes back to the basic principles we all learned in school. if someone tells you to jump off the bridge are you going to do with it. totally irresponsible. >> judge jeanine: i will give you $10,000 to capture that guy. i'm on camera. everybody knows who i am. i'm the new black panthers. why isn't the department of justice scalia cities prosecuting them.
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free speech ends where inciting violence begins. >> they said are you insighting violence and the guy says eye for an eye, tooth for a death. >> the only time i accept that when president bush said go get osama bin laden dead or alive. they should make them retract it in as public way as possible. >> at least the parents have come out and said they are not with this at all and cried for peace and said there should be a peaceful approach. >> judge jeanine: and to their credit because trayvon's parents suffered so much. go to spike lee. quarter of a million followers. he retweets an address that he thinks is george zimmerman. tie that in with the black panthers saying catch them dead or alive for $10,000 and these people have to move and spike lee apparently apologized and
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settled with them. but can he be sued for any consequences? let's say one of them has heart attack. let's say some nut job kills them? >> that is the key. i would say if somebody goes to their home and scares them and does anything whatsoever and you could show, prove that they got the address from an irresponsible tweet by spike -- >> are addresses public information? >> they are. there are a couple of thing there's. first of all, he was not the originator of the actual address. >> judge jeanine: he retweeted that. it is like saying i'm not responsible because i didn't start the rumor. >> to his credit what he is doing in giving back and give them money saying listen to me what i did was wrong and i apologize and peace to all. >> judge jeanine: did he do that because he knew he could be sued. >> i agree give him credit for doing the right thing without litigation. without the lawyers getting involved. he stroked the check without
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the lawyers getting involved. that is because he is from brooklyn. >> judge jeanine: i'm from westchester and you're from? >> the bronx. >> judge jeanine: new video released of zimmerman at the police station 40 minutes at the police station. have you seen evidence like that released before? >> i haven't seen in. in my cases i'm begging until the last minute until i'm going to trial. where is it. >> judge jeanine: why did they release it. >> it as special case. >> because of the public outcry and the pressure. based on the president of the united states is talking about this case. it is unprecedented pressure. >> in terms of who would benefit if you look at it and analyze about he was injured his nose, there was bleeding. in the event his head was banged up against the wall or the floor or the ground he meet have a headache. he is walking very fluidly. his walk does not suggest a person who has a concussion, a headache or anything else and there is not a lot of blood.
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certainly doesn't. >> judge jeanine: certainly doesn't help zimmerman that is my take. now, the story of the jetblue pilot who ran through the aisle yelling about 9/11 and religion. he banged on the cockpit door until passengers subdued him. here is the question, do those people if i'm on this airplane i'm jetblue, the pilot goes berserk do i have a lawsuit against jetblue? >> number one what are the damages. >> judge jeanine: i'm freaked out. i can't go on an airplane again. >> should the airline have known he was suffering some sort of mental breakdown? >> the damages are think are very minimal. if somebody does freak out, judge, somebody has a heart attack or something then, yes. the problem here is he was tested four months earlier for any mental type of issue. he has none. he had no record to speak of or what have you. >> he was an hour late, that is the only thing. he is now charged with i don't another interfering with the
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crew or oooo-oooo something if he has a stroke or a tumor how does that affect the possibility of prosecution? >> i think it goes to mitigation. i think he will be prosecuted. you can't have pee lot pilots y one else going nuts on a plane. it as matter of deterrences. >> imagine if it wasn't the pilot and it was is a passenger we would be throwing the book at him. obviously he is done being a poisoning lot. we hope he gets a little -- being a pilot. >> what is what that airline? i have been on the tarmac many times. anyway, now for courts gone wild. okay. shelley lynn is suing mcdonalds claiming that they played a role in her becoming a sex worker aka prostitute. she says she was coerced by her husband into selling her body
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because of minimum wage no, healthcare, lack of a grievance system. does she have a case? >> 20 years guy. >> and. >> judge jeanine: and hold the sauce jokes, guys. >> what lawsuit could she potentially have. she is saying because there was minimum wage as a result of that i had to resort to this life of prostitution? because you didn't give me a shock i had no other alternative. >> she does get an award of creative litigation. it is courts gone wild. her husband owned the mcdonalds. >> but at the time she worked for him. she married him later. >> and then she was pimping him out of the mcdonalds. it is a creative lawsuit. >> but one that will inevitably be dismissed. >> be dismissed. >> judge jeanine: arthur, joey, thanks so much. now, forget big brother google is watching your every move and listening to you as well.
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>> me pleasure, judge. >> google gets the new patent advertising based on environmental conditions. what does it do? >> basically it is designed to give goingal way of listening in on your phone conversations but not necessarily listening to the speech that you are using as you are talking to your friends but what it does do is allows them to pick up the environmental noises going on around you. for example let's say you are walking down the street and they happen to hear a particular noise from a store or something like that, they can pick up that noise. >> judge jeanine: or a train or a cow bell. >> anything like that. and they can use that ambient noise to send a directed advertisement to you. let's say you are sitting on the beach, you need swimwear, they will suggest swimwear advertisement. >> judge jeanine: in order to hear the background noise behind you so that they can target ads doesn't that mean they are listening to your conversation?
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>> they have to be. they can use technology to strip out the voice and go into the background area but it is hard to do that in real time. if they did it undernormal waves and normal conditions it would take them a long time too actually do that to the message. >> but the patent that they have got doesn't require them to do that. i got to tell you with all due respect isn't that a violation of the federal wiretapping statute? >> certainly something that borders it, judge. what happens is they are listening in exactly in the way that the wiretapping statute was intended to stop people from listening in. they are doing something that is really against all of the freedoms that we are looking for. and it is very, very difficult for google to say that they are not listening in on what you are saying because they he have to do that in order to pick up the ambient noise of the conversation back up to your conversation. >> of course. as a global cyber expert and former intelligence officer does this concern you? >> very much. what we are looking at here is what kind of training does
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google have? what kind of training are they giving their employees? when i was in the military and working these kinds of issues we got extensive training that told us these are the things that you can do and these are the things you can't do and this is how you need to get a warrant and this is when you need to get a warrant and this is the kinds of things we he need to get protection. >> they don't need to get a warrant. they can just listen in if it is their phone. >> and people are buying these phones without really understanding what they are giving up. >> google responds by saying we filed patent applications on a variety of ideas that our employees come up with. some of those ideas later mature to real products or services. some don't. prospective product announcements should not necessarily be inferred from our patent applications that were granted. all right, now, whatever. google gets the patent and at the end of the day, i'm an undercover cop. i'm a battered woman in a
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shelter for battered women. i'm in witness protection. i don't want any one to know where i am or listening to my conversations. maybe if they hear a train. maybe if they -- i have seen this in movies all the time. >> and does happen in real life. >> judge jeanine: there are no safeguards. >> google says that they will have opt out capabilities. >> judge jeanine: like us opting out on the do not track and all that. >> it is hard often for consumers to find the data points and these buttons but what actually happens is they still track you no matter what they do. >> judge jeanine: it allows them to analyze background of photos and videos on phones. >> they can tell where you live and where you have been and where you are going. all of the kinds of classic things that people do in espionage thrillers that can create problems for people in a battered women's shelter,
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witness protection, undercover people working for the u.s. government. all kinds of possibilities and it is a real problem for liberties in general. >> judge jeanine: i got to tell you, it seems like google is taking us into the abyss. >> i'm afraid so. >> judge jeanine: thanks for being with us. up next, president obama says we have enough oil. so why are gas prices still going up? - hi, i'm halle berry, and as a new mom, i can tell you that childhood is a magical time.
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blakeman, republican strategist join us this evening. gas prices on everybody's mind. the president doubling down on green energy, he is not concerned about iran cutting off the oil survivor supply. with gas prices still going up how is the president so confident? >> it is a tough thing. the reality is every time people go to the pump and gas prices are a little heaters a constant irritation. the challenge is we have two percent of the world's oil reserves and use 20%. we can't make that up on volume. at a certain point we have to do something different. >> judge jeanine: what do you make of that? >> jimmy carter 2.0. 1979 all over again. a failed president who has no energy policy. the problem is leadership, judge. if the president had a plan an energy plan where we exploit our own resources. >> judge jeanine: tell me why he is ahead in the three states, ohio and florida and what is the third state, the pennsylvania? why is he ahead? >> because people are paying more attention to what is
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happening in the republican nomination process than the general election. that will change. once it is head-to-head between what appears to be romney and this president h his fortunes will change dramatically on energy, on jobs, on debt. if it wasn't for bad news this guy would have no news at all. >> judge jeanine: let's jump to healthcare. if the individual mandate fails does the whole thing fail? >> that is a question for the supreme court right now. and it is tough to see which way this goes but i will tell you one thing that ising. >> tis going happen if this is a 5-4 decision the reputation of the supreme court will go down, down, down. just another political institution as opposed to above politics. >> judge jeanine: if healthcare fails what effect does that have on the election, on the president? >> i think it will have a big impact. the president banked his entire presidency on the issue. >> judge jeanine: forget about
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how it breaks down. if it fails does obama suffer? >> i think both sides will be energized. it is tough to know which way it will go. i think he suffers a bit but i think it will tick off the democratic base so much they could become really energized especially if they see this like bush v. gore, just another partisan decision. >> judge jeanine: we have gas prices so high and unemployment so high. i don't know if at the are energized or just so angry. >> he let them down. that is the thing. he let the base down. he hasn't been the type of president to deliver even for his base. ruling out of ideology instead of reality will be -- >> judge jeanine: what about the undocumented illegal immigrants. he he promised them. he didn't come through on that. i think if he loses healthcare he loses everything. >> he saved us from potentially a second grade depression. >> people tell you they are in a depression. >> if you had 104 fever your temperature went down to 101
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you are still sick but you are better off. >> judge jeanine: but i still feel like crap either way. >> it could have been worse. >> judge jeanine: the supreme court rules against the individual mandate and i think it is interesting because elena kagan says is half a loaf just as good as a full loaf we know where she is going and then the broccoli from scalia. and roberts says even if the individual mandate doesn't survive he doesn't know what to save at that point. so with all of these problems with the supreme court and looking at this, do you think that there is any way they will uphold it, brad? >> i don't think so. i think the court in the oral argument has heard and even kennedy said do you create a market to regulate a market. i think the hand writing is on the wall and the mandate will fail. will they sended it back to congress. congress doesn't have time to act on it. >> judge jeanine: do you have faith with kennedy going in with them? >> the one i think is interesting to watch -- i mean i have some faith in kennedy.
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i think roberts, my hunch is he doesn't want a 5-4 decision because he knows what it will do to the reputation of the court and his reputation. i'm hoping. >> judge jeanine: you are telling me the supreme court justices appointed for life care about politics. real fast all the endorsements romney got this week, it is not helping him. >> is it is helping him. we move to winner take allstates on tuesday. and places like, wisconsin, and d.c. and maryland will be the start of an inevitablity. >> thank you so much for being with us. and now for my summation. i spent three decades in criminal justice looking for truth assigning blame. the accused didn't do it, wasn't there or was justified, the victim harmed in ways we can't comprehend. some unable to speak. silenced forever. there has been a lot of talk of race in the trayvon martin case but to mean the universal
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language of victimization transcends all barriers. george zimmerman says he was beatenned, bloodied, thought he was going to die, stood his ground and killed trayvon. what do we know? fact, trayvon is 17 in a place he has a right to be. fact, george zimmerman a self-anointed neighborhood watch captain who previously called 91150 times calld that night saying the teen looked suspicious. fact, neighborhood watch volunteers are not to carry weapons. zimmerman carrying a 9-millimeter is told to stand down. fact, words exchanged and cries for help and then a single gunshot. 17-year-old trayvon is dead. we don't know who screamed help. what if any injuries trayvon had that would tell us if he was the agressor. we don't know the trajectory of the bull let. key don't have george zimmerman's medical records to know if he had a broken nose a cut lip or a head injury and finally we don't know who had
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