like you're just getting married 'cause you're pregnant. >> steve: she's going to continue in the after the show show 'cause we know we've got to go and we'll see you back here same time, same channel. everybody. beginning of a whole new week. a economic faceoff threatening another stalemate in the fight for government spending. a leading democratic senator warning there may be no agreement until after the election in november. this as of country continues to rack up the red ink. $15.6 trillion and only going higher. i hope you had a great easter weekend. it was beautiful in the northeast. >> great day for a egg hunt. bill: you did? did you find something. >> not i but the children. bill: i'm bill hemmer. how are you doing. >> i'm alisyn camerota in for martha maccallum. kent conrad of the senate

budget committee making this dismal prediction on "fox news sunday". >> i think senator reid made this judgment and probably quite correctly that there is a little chance the two sides will get together before the election. >> that is dire warning. stuart varney, good morning to you. what does it mean if there is no budget deal before november? >> that means major decisions on taxes and spending kicked to the next administration and the next congress. at the end of this year all the bush tax cuts are supposed to go away. plus the payroll tax holiday is supposed to go away. you take away the tax cuts and what you have is a whopping big tags increase. statement we're supposed to impose 1.2 trillion dollars worth of cuts on spending on military and health care. it will be the end of the jobless benefit extension. that would mean a huge spending cut. put it together, massive tax increase, huge spending cut. all occurring at the same

time. the decisions on those hikes in taxes, cuts in spending all to be taken by the next administration, the next congress. here's what you can definitely say though, bill. by the end of this year, no budget for this year. at the end of this year we will owe over $16 trillion and we will have to authorize more borrowing by the government. bill: that is on the debt now the we mentioned the debt here. this is our presidential projection, rather based on numbers from the white house the yellow line is where we're headed. the red line is where we are. if you look right now at the 2008. you're at 10 trillion dollars. some four years later, in 2012, you're at $15 trillion on this graph. this is the yellow line, stuart, that you're mentioning here, okay? so what happens under this scenario with our debt? >> it means our debt becomes much larger than our economy. think of us like a house. when you owe more than the value of the house, you are underwater and you've got at

problem borrowing all the money that you need. it also means we're shelling out now over a billion dollars a day in interest. it will be 10 billion a week by the end of this year. and rising from there. we're beginning to look a lot like europe, bill. bill: there will be a major crunch time in congress. >> yes. bill: there's a lot of work ahead for all of them. stuart varney, thank you. see you at 9:15 on fbn. alisyn, what do you have? martha: could be a grim day on wall street. traders getting the first reaction to the lackluster monthly jobs number. the markets were closed for good friday when the report came out. just 120,000 new jobs for the month of march. that was enough to bring the unemployment rate down to the 8.2%. the opening bell rings in just about 25 minutes. we will have the latest for you as it happens. breaking news on this nuclear faceoff with north korea. the reg dweem is -- regime

is days away from testing a long-range missile one that could potentially reach the united states. south korea says they are prepping for another nuclear test. greg palkot is following from london. greg, what is the latest. >> reporter: absolutely. let's talk about the launch upcoming lately as thursday, north korea time. this week it is the launch of a long-range missile. north koreans say it is simply a civilian effort putting a satellite up in orbit or attempting to anyway. u.s. and others say it could be a warm-up or military applications for a rocket. in that case it violates u.n. resolutions. in the north sight in western north korea. one expert we have been speaking to looking at images the critical third stage looks like improved, iranian-derived liquid fuel booster. last time north korea tried

to put something up in the sky in 2009 it was the third stage that failed. that is critical. countries in the area, that south korea or japan any bits of that rock rocket comes into that area or threatens their land mass they will shoot it down. pyongyang said that would be an act of war. martha: oh, boy. in addition to know what we know what is happening this week. are there more threats to come? >> reporter: this is all very important because of something else. the risk is so high because of the north korean nuclear program. they make no, no fact, they're not hiding it at all. they have a nuclear program. they have another material according to the experts we've been speaking to make as many as six to 10 bombs. now south korean officials are saying over the weekend they're looking at satellite photography of north korea and they're seeing some kind of preparations happening at the very same location in north korea where north korea has conducted other nuclear tests. and this is the an ominous

trend because in the past two times that north korea has tried to launch these multistage rockets, a little time after that they have tested these nuclear devices. we spoke to one expert, they said it is still too early to absolutely confirm that but all of this well worth watching. back to you. >> ominous the right word. greg palkot thanks for the update bill: newt gingrich likely that mitt romney will be the republican nomknee for president. he said if romney is the nominee he will support him and the republican party in his own way. >> if i end up not being the nominee i talked to chairman reince priebus at the republican national committee i want to work this fall to defeat obama every way i could. whatever the team thinks is

helpful. to use your phrase and go back to a post-political career. i'm glad i did this. it to me was important as a sit tone to try to do very hard things and bring new ideas and approaches. turned out it would be much harder than i thought it would be. it was the right thing to do at that point in lie life and where the country was. i have no regrets. bill: gingrich is saying that his campaign is in debt. brit hume live here next hour. live in "america's newsroom." look forward to that. >> check out the video, mitt romney kicking back by catching some waves. romney and his family taking a break from the campaign trail in l.a., la jolla, california. someone snapping this photo of the republican candidate holding a surfboard. his son matt romney reacting to the picture on twitter saying, quote, water temp was low 60s. i was freezing in my full length wetsuit. my dad was just happy to be

out there. cool stuff. easter week is a much more somber time for rick santorum the candidate taking a break from the campaign trail today so he could be with his daughter bellla. the 3-year-old girl was hospitalized on friday. she suffers from a rare and serious genetic condition. spokesman for santorum hopes to resume campaigning tomorrow. this is the second time this year santorum took a break to tend to bella. bill: pennsylvania two weeks from tomorrow. coming up. so easter sunday, beautiful weather. after the easter egg hunt at allison's house does not get more thrilling than this. did you see? >> another watson is awaring a green jacket at augusta. and this time, his name is bubba. bill: nicely done and emotional bubba watson the american out of georgia winning the that green jacket. looks like he was in trouble until he hit a ball out of a

bed of pine needles. will we see it? show the shot. he hooked it 150 yards onto the green and man, it rolled nice and tight. all of this seeming too good to be true for him who tweeted a few hours ago. finally home. crazy day. i keep checking. it wasn't a dream. i have the green jacket, with the hashtag, awesome. really a thrill to see that. double hole playoff. beat a guy from south africa. every announcer said his last name a didn't way. jim nance says oousthazen. alyison: i was wearing green. bill: that is the car you saw there. he owns it. just a good ol' boy, never meaning no harm. well-done, bubba. congratulations. >> those are a few of the many stories we're following in "america's newsroom.". straight ahead, scientists discover a link between a

mother's weight and autism. we'll go over the study with dr. siegel. bill: fighting words from cardinal dolan. the contraception mandate in the health care law and his promise to the president he has made. alyison: from quarterback to pastor? thousands of faithful fans gathering to hear tim tebow speak at a east sun day service. what he is saying that you don't normally here. >> i remember one of the first game. i get sacked. he gets on a knee tebowing mocking me. that is supposed to be mocking me? that is praying. that's a good thing.

alisyn: a war of words heating up on twitter. it started when republican senator chuck grassley criticized president for saying this about the supreme court and the health care law last week. >> ultimately i'm confident that the supreme court will

not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected congress. alisyn: check out your screen. i won't read in this twitterees. in english, grassry's tweet translates, constituents asked why i am not outraged at president obama's attack on supreme court independence and because american people are not as stupid as this ex-professor of constitutional law. presidential advisor david axelrod wasted no time to respond to this. heads up, senator grassley. i think a 6-year-old hijacked your account and is sending out foolish tweets just to embarass you. bill: the battleground. who knew that the twitter

blue would be way everybody is going. alisyn: brave new world. bill: criticism by church leaders over president obama's health care law. timothy dolan, the cardinal and archbishop of new york. called it a radical intrusion on religious freedom. >> we didn't ask for this fight. i didn't enjoy it at all. i wish was on face the nation answering other questions and you probably do too. we didn't ask from the fight but we're not going to back away from it. what i say is this, yeah, i don't think religion should be too involved in politics but i also don't think the government and politics should be overly involved in the church. that is our problem here. bill: a republican campaign consultant, national political correspondent for talk radio news service and marjorie clifton, former consultant obama team and govote.com. you're both cat licks, fit for this and even if you have. stretches into the far reaches of society.

tony, what do you think of the comment. radical intrusion? >> bill, as a catholic we always learned there is strong separation of church and state. very rarely as our church leaders gotten woke call about -- vocal about any particular issue. first of all remember he met with the president before this decision was made. he felt hoodwinked based on what the president said in private and what he did in public. the president made this decision against the counsel of vice president biden and his chief of staff mr. daley, both catholics and sided with secretary sebelius and valerie jarrett. from the on set the president clearly made a calculation the catholic vote was not so offended or rather nervous about oaf phonedding. the it was women's vote and intensity he get from that and put a premium on. this is what he engaged. bill: marjorie, what do you think of that. 70 million catholics if you buy tony's argument it is the woman vote and

especially single women vote. what do you think? >> women are over half of the catholic church. quite frankly i was surprised to see a bishop dolan talking politics on easter sunday and rest of us were at church with our families. i think engaging in politics this way is a dangerous thing what. the obama administration showed was willingness to have dialogue and keeps faith in mind because we are people of at this time fa and faith as many are women of faith. make this as nonissue as most of the catholic leaders said this is nonissue. bill: typically what he does typically do a intervieweester sunday anyway and he was asked about that. radical intrusion. i want our audience to hear this. i will come back to both of you. roll this. >> you've got a dramatic radical intrusion of a government bureaucracy into the internal life of the church. that bothers me. so hear me say i would like to back away from this. i have got other things to

worry about and bigger fish to fry than that. our problem is the government. bill: remember what he said. we didn't ask for the fight but we're not going to back away from it. >> well, that's right. bill: tony, this is something spoken about in every catholic church just about every sunday now for the past two months. >> heard it from my own parrish, bill. remember catholics are not mon owe little thick. we don't agree about the same policy. but when you feel your religious institutions are being undermined in this whole say kind of way you tend to unite. here is's president problem. this was supposed to be slam-dunk. the polling is shifting because this has become a issue of religious freedom and constitution. this is something come out of the health care bill which in and of itself is unpopular. bill: i understand the point you're making in a political sense here. marjorie in the time i have left, how do you believe based on what tony is arguing how does this break now? >> this has been resolved within the catholic church.

right now what we're having is a separate debate on constitutionality. within the church this is nonissue. >> that is ridiculous. bill: a nonissue. >> that is preposterous. >> right now what we're looking at is is death penalty that is the biggest pro-life issue the catholic church should vote on, repeal happening in connecticut. >> we're talking about this, not the death penalty. what does the cardinal, archbishop of cardinal of new york gain by engaging this conversation split screen fight between the president of the united states. what does he gain? bill: i get you to answer that, marjorie. we have to run. >> he is defending his church. >> i am his church. i have to be honest this is not representative of what catholic issues are right now. he is not the only voice in the catholic church. this is unfortunate this is the chance he is choosing to take. >> he is a leading voice. he is a leading voice. bill: marjorie, thank you. tony, thank you as well. that went in a direction i did not expect.

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trial of a man accuse of killing jennifer hudson's mother, brother and 7-year-old nephew. hudson expected to be there and might serve as a witness. an autopsy scheduled for painter thomas kincaid. he died unexpectedly at the age of 54 on friday. they are not happy about picking up bill for whitney houston's funeral. nearly 200 officers were assigned to the ceremony costing $187,000 overtime for the police and that is 5% of the police annual budget. 24 minutes after the hour. here is allison. alisyn: a brand new study is first to link mother's weight on pregnancy to the chances of child developing autism. according to the journal. women obese during pregnancy are 67% likely to have an autistic child. dr. mark siegel. fox news medical a-team. great to see you. >> good morning, allison.

alisyn: ever since the new autism numbers came out showing 1 in every 88 children have autism. what do you make of this study showing a mother's obesity could cause it? >> allison, we've been looking very carefully what the effects on the mother are in terms of autism developing later. that seems to be the holy grail here. what women are exposed to or have children in the womb seems to lead to an increase. whether risk in the environment. this big study published in pediatrics today, found that looking at over 1,000 kids, there is 60% increased risk of autism or austism spectrum disorder in women that owe obese. 34ers m of the women in child bearing years are obese. there is increased risk of diabetes. increased risk of high blood pressure and whopping risk with obesity. alisyn: the problem with these findings we all know lots of moms who are thin who have autistic children. >> that's true.

we also don't know by the way even if this is real and what we call an observational study because it doesn't have a cause and effect, it doesn't prove being obese causes autism. but the increase may be due to the single hormone insulin. may be when you're obese you need to make more insulin. insulin is inflammatory marker. in other words it causes the body to go into metabolic overdrive and may increase your risk of autism. a lot of mays in there but we're concerned about this. alisyn: does it suggest there may be a host of things that can happen in utero that cause autism? things i heard. toxicity in the environment. household pollution. mother's obesity, father's age, vaccines? does it suggest somehow a combination of all of these things or one or the other could cause it? >> great point. i want viewers to know that you've been doing a series of this on "fox & friends." incredible investigation. the one word i would take out of there is vaccines. i don't think there is any proof whatsoever.

and there has been multiple studies on this actually vaccine exposure to women that are pregnant. that is very important. we want women who have pregnant to have the flu vaccine. we don't see scientifically a increased risk. what is autism? i want to make sure our viewers know that. autism means inability to relate socially to another child and repetitive behaviors. there is big controversy going on how extensive autism really is. are we overdiagnosing it? are we underdiagnosing it? one thing is for sure it is a huge problem. alisyn: it is heartbreaking for parents. we have to get to the bottom of it. >> early diagnose is key. the more you diagnose it early the more you can intervene and make a difference. alisyn: great point, dr. siegel. bill: stay on that, mark. >> and alison is doing great work. alisyn: thanks a lot. bill: a navy jetfighter crashes into an apartment building. the critical moments we're learning about before the plane went down.

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alisyn: fox news alert for you because a massive show of force as the u.s. navy deploys a second aircraft

carrier to the persian gulf. the uss enterprise joins the abraham lincoln carrier group in that region. this as secretary of state hillary clinton warns tehran that time for diplomacy is running out. this marks only the fourth time in the last decade that the navy has sent two aircraft carriers to the region at the same time. general jack keane is a retired four-star general, former vice chief of staff of the army and a fox news military analyst. general, thanks for being with us this morning. >> good to see you, alisyn. alisyn: the navy calls this buildup routine. how do you see this buildup? >> clearly we have tensions in the region and the issue with iran and potential attack from israel are certainly on the table and they're driving some of these decisions in terms of our troop deployments. clearly we're sending a message to the iranians, loud and clear we intend to be in that region and we tend to be a force for stability. so there's a lot behind sending that carrier there in terms of our message,

certainly. alisyn: now the obama administration has called the talks scheduled for this week, the quote, last chance for iran. so does that mean that the next step is military action? >> well that remains to be seen. i mean, alisyn, i don't believe the iranians think we're serious about a military operation. in terms of the united states military operation. and despite the public rhetoric they have never accepted the fact that our military operation is on the table and it's a credible option. they certainly believe the israelis would attack but they have also come to the con pollution that the -- comeclusion that the israelis probably do not have sufficient capability to stop the program and only temporarily delay it and maybe not even that. the credible military option people talk about i don't think has much impact on the irrainsians. alisyn: when we talk about military action are we talking about something like bunker-busters or something

larger? >> well, primarily it would be an air attack. could you also conduct simultaneous espionage on the ground with it as well. that would depend on the covert operation we would conduct or the israelis could conduct but primarily it's an air operation to really take down the secret sites that are deeply buried into the ground some it00 feet 200 feet is major target. there are sites more vulnerable to air penetration. yes the means to do that would be so-called penetrator that would get down deep into the ground. we have been having a physics issue since we developed precision bombing and our ad very serries are going deeper and increasing fortication as a result of our bombing that is what is cake taking place here. alisyn: do the israelis have the ability to take that sort of air action or would the u.s. have to be involved? >> they would want us involved make no mistake

about about this. they would have us tanker fueling. 1,000 miles to the target, 1,000 miles to get back. they would like refuel and electronic war capability to help with the air defense system. certainly they want our most sophisticated bombs to penetrate deeply. those are the primary things they would like us to do. of course they would welcome the air operation participation as well in terms of strike aircraft. so there would be a joint operation. i think that is highly unlikely. alisyn: general jack keane, i know a lot more than i did two minutes ago. thank you so much for your expertise. >> thank you, alisyn. have a good day. bill: he is terrific. as a friend of mind would say, that's why we keep you around because every time he talks we listen. a apartment complex hit friday afternoon after that f-18 crashed into an apartment building. the plane destroyed dozens of units. miraculously no one died. rather incredible stories are emerging and so too

these pictures. off-duty member of the quote guard saw the explosion, ran toward the flames. spotted one of the pilots still attached to the ejection seat and used his knife to cut him free. >> i grabbed him and say lieutenant, hey lieutenant. that is when he opened his eyes and whole shock of hey, what's going on? he really came too to and you could tell he was in shock. we gave him the water. he poured the water over his head and all the blood cleared off and you could see the lacerations on his face and knot on his head was getting bigger. bill: guardsman said he acted on instinct after years of training. a job well-done. alisyn: another frightening accident. this one on a freeway near los angeles. authorities say a suspected drunk driver slammed his car into the back of a tanker igniting this massive fuel fire. the tanker was carrying about 6,000 gallons of fuel. all of it burning. the california highway patrol is just reopening all westbound lanes this

morning. fortunately both the car and tanker driver scrambled to safety and were not hurt. bill: that is quite a sight, especially in nighttime. developing story in fill definitely. a five-alarm warehouse blaze claiming the lives of two firefighters. two others were injured. they were taken to the hospital as heavy winds making hazardous fire conditions across the northeast. brush fires burning in new jersey. national weather service even issued a red flag fire warning there. rick leventhal is on that, outside here in new york city. rick, what's the latest. good morning? >> reporter: bill, a big problem is high winds. we can see it whipping flags on sixth avenue. a red flag warning for much of northeast atlantic region maryland, new york, connecticut, massachusetts and rhode island. the issue in new jersey, a bad brush fire that started just after midnight and spread to more than 1,000 acres. more than 50 firefighters responding. about the three dozen trucks on scene. they had to evacuate dozens of homes. it's a rural area.

east of philadelphia but still homes threatened, lives threatened. that's why they have been trying to get these flames out. there are very dry conditions combined with the winds of 20 to 30 miles per hour and gusting to 45 and very low humidity means firefighters have a real issue on their hands. still trying to battle a brush fire that is covering a 1,000 acres in burlington county and it is not yet under control, bill. bill: you've got that to watch. back to fill definitely, what's the latest there, rick? >> reporter: it started as a fire in abandoned factory. it spread to a couple blocks and included an old furniture store. firefighters went inside the furniture store and there was a partial collapse. it killed two of the firefighters, injuredded two others. hundreds of residents were evacuated from that area. about 150 without power at this hour, bill. they're getting that fire under control but this warning is issued to the everyone in the region. don't burn campfires.

don't burn agricultural fires right now because there is a very great chance those embers may spread and spark more blazes. bill: good note. rick leventhal on all of that for us. a li, what is next? alisyn: serious new accusations against the white house a key witness in the "fast and furious" gun-running operation said he is willing to testify to congress but he can't. why? we'll investigate that ahead. bill: also he is now a new york jet, tim tebow taking on a different role at a easter church service. did you hear? he said some things you don't normally hear today. listen. >> it was great. very emotional. he is very inspiring. he is actually a true role model for athletes. >> his ability to be a christian and not be ashamed of it. full face, wide open. to show his faith is just amazing

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with the mind reader and the clowns. well, democratic senator dick durbin is glad that the gsa administrator stepped down and promised an investigation. >> we're going to have a hearing what actually happened here. it's an absolutely outrage just expenditure of taxpayers money. alisyn: that administrator, martha johnson, resigned monday just hours before the gsa inspector general released the report, detailing the shocking spending. bill: could tim tebow be planning for life after football? i would say yes. the new york jet drawing a huge crowd to an outdoor service on easter sunday. this in texes is -- texas. leaders of celebration church had 15,000 show up in austin to hear tebow speak. he brought a message about his own faith. >> whatever happens in life, good or bad, whether the hero or the goat, whether you like it or not, you know that someone has a plan for your life and it is a special plan. you can trust that and you have hope in that, then you

have peace and in all decisions and everything that you do. it brings a lot of joy to your life. without that, you would wonder, why? is it going to be better? off what is going to happen? bill: he went on from there. father jonathan morris. fox news contributor. author of, god wants you happy. >> good morning, bill. bill: on easter monday. the pastor was joe champion. he was on "fox and friends" this morning. he said, christianity is the pope and tebow right now and we did not have room for the pope. sarcasm? overstated? >> i think what he is getting at right now we're having a wave i would say of cultural icons, in this case, tim tebow. we can add jeremy lynn to this, the knicks basketball player. he said first thing out of surgery, praise jesus christ for successful surgery. how about bubba watson. explaining clearly that life

is not all about golf for him. he thanked god. he said, you know what, there will be more to life after the golf i finished off. he talked a about a great story about the adoption of his little child. bill: his young boy too. just looking at some of his tweets, he is a deeply-rooted christian. >> maybe we --. bill: faith is not expressed to share that. what do you think?. >> jeremy lynn. bubba watson. throw in cardinal dolan and joyful christianity and the pope. recommend unafraid. that is the message of tim tebow. bill: why do you think that would be? is this a new sensation? >> tim tebow is trying to make an example. he went after some professional athletes and said, some people say hey they're not role models but they are role models. they're just not good at it. that is tough words for professional athletes. tim tebow says in my off season, i will spend time

doing good. i think it is a great invitation. bill: the exact quote was yes you are a role model. you're just not a good one. now normally he is not judgmental in that sense. do you get that from isn't. >> hey i think he is speaking clearly and, you know, if you look at entirety of his message it was not about hey i'm better than you. that is not what it was. yes he was asked about other, this is a question answer. was not a prepared sermon. bill: that's true. >> he responded hey, if you are a professional athlete, if you're in the public eye, if you're a great businessman, if you're a journalist, you are in the public eye and in some, one way or another, you're a role model did. people want to be like you. bill: tebow said first and foremost what this country is based on, one nation under god. the more we get back to that he was interrupted by applause. >> he is on a mission. i think it is okay. i would love to see our jewish brothers and sisters, our muslim brothers and sisters, you're nonbelieving

members of our society and our country standing up speaking clearly about things that will be good for society. there is no reason to be afraid of your values. bill: okay to be outspoken about your faith said tebow yesterday. that is why he came to the number one media market in the america or the world for that matter. the platform or stage is much greater than him. >> i he realizes that. there will be pressure to be in the cool crowd in new york city. get in the best clubs. tebow is not without his weaknesses i'm sure. it it will be tough. bill: three of the hottest athletes in america, tebow, bubba watson and jeremy lynn. a interesting point you bring up. we'll see what sort of contrails come off the story. >> happy easter. bill: to you. >> thank you. bill: alisyn. alisyn: you think $4 per gallon of gas is bad? how about seven bucks a gallon? that is new reality at some gas stations. what are the chances prices spreading high across the country?

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bill: first it was the tornados. now texas is being hammered with floods. slow moving storms rolling through north texas sunday afternoon. look at pictures. this is near dallas-ft. worth. more than 60 accidents reported in span of three hours. similar storms expected over next couple days, bringing threat of more severe weather and ground is already wet which you know means more flooding. hang in there, guys. >> well the passing of a legend in journalism this weekend. iconic cbs news and "60

minutes" correspondent mike wallace died at the age of 93. fox news chairman ceo and chairman roger ailes describe what made wallace so special. >> he didn't necessarily play gotcha. he actually asked intelligent and very tough questions to answer. but, y know, many people who weathered mike wallace interview grew to respect him greatly. and, you know, have great regard for him because, i don't recall him ever, anybody ever saying to me took a cheap shot or he, you know, he did the obvious or that he was, you know, was playing some kind of game. he actually was trying to serve the audience and that's what made him great. alisyn: fox's eric shawn takes a look back at the life and career of this legendary journalist. >> reporter: he was called the toughest and most feared interviewer on television.

he grilled newsmakers and his controversial and direct style was a hit. he joined cbs in 1951. he was one of the founding members of sixsy minutes -- "60 minutes". >> know enough mike, to talk to you intelligently about it. >> he calls you imam, forgive me, not his words, not mine. a lunatic. was there anything a secret service or clint hill could have done to keep that from happening? >> i think you would agree a good many people hated your husband? they even hated you. >> are you not perhaps afraid of what might happen to you as a result of making these revelations? >> oh, yes. i probably am a dead man already. >> reporter: wallace was also known for his ambush interviews. >> everybody is scattering like cockroaches around here. i don't understand. >> reporter: throughout his career, wallace occasionally found himself to be the story. a documentary he narrated. general william westmoreland

led to a $120 million lible suit. westmoreland and accused wallace and others at cbs of a report slanted and untrue. the case was settled out of court. he made his battle with depression public. he took on the tobacco industry and eventually his own network. >> they just did not want this piece to go on the air because they were in the middle of negotiations with westinghouse to sell cbs to westinghouse and westinghouse would not want to buy cbs if it could conceivably be buying at the same time a 10 to $15 billion lawsuit. >> reporter: even in his 80s he kept up a full schedule n 2005 "fox news sunday" host chris wallace sat down with his father on his program. >> you don't retire because? >> because i love, it is not work what i do. i love what i do.

when i get up in the morning i think i am going to have the opportunity to, i wasn't, that happy about waking up this morning. >> i felt the same way. >> reporter: in 2006, wallace did retire as a full-"time" correspondent. and continued to contribute until finally hanging up his microphone. after a almost 60 years the unmistakeable voice of mike wallace was not on the air but his brave approach and unstinting style marked him as a journal listic legend who inspired generations of news men and women and his crusading manner will always be remembered. alisyn: what a paragone of journalism and so fearless. so important for all of us to remember. bill: really changed the relationship as roger was pointing out, roger ailes, our boss about what the audience expects from folks like us. and to think about it. what wallace did for some years and level of professionalism by which he did it. winning an emmy at the age of 89.

really full life and our best to chris too, with the loss of his father and his family. alisyn: we're thinking of you, chris. bill: indeed we are. mike wallace, dead at the age of 93. fox news alert right now. waiting on this throughout the weekend. first time stocks traded since last thursday. first time to react to the jobs number which was not good on friday. now you see the selloff. down 151. below 13,000 for the dow 30. we'll watch that throughout the day. ali. alisyn: dnc chair, debbie wasserman schultz claims that mitt romney is rooting that the economy will fail. karl rove will be here to respond to that. >> we've got aways to go. we need to keep pushing but what's really bother some to me, it almost seems like my republican colleagues in congress are rooting for economic failure. [ female announcer ] last year, the u.s. used

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bill got some breaking news on reports the white house has given the irs, half a billion dollars to implement key parts of the health care law, despite the fact the supreme court challenge is yet to be decided. that's what starts is brand new hour here on a monday, easter monday here of "america's newsroom", and hope you had a joyous weekend! i'm bill hemmer, martha is spending time with her family, well deserved, and you as you pointed out last hour have wore the augusta green jacket today. alisyn: i could not have made that final shot, in miniature golf is any indication. bill: nice to see you. alisyn: good to be with you, i'm alisyn in for martha today. according to reports the obama administration has diverted $500 million to the internal revenue service, the agency tasked with implementing the controversial individual mandate and other polices under this law. bill: steve en-- steve hayes, good morning to you this. is going along now while the law is being disputed,

right? >> it is. there's no indication that the white house tends to sort of scale back the level of implementation or pace of implementation of the health care law, despite the fact that it's being debated at the supreme court and we're expecting a decision in a couple of months. bill: you believe the overall problem is with the law itself. explain that. >> yeah, i do. i mean, i think this is -- it's interesting that the administration is moving forward, that they've taken this half a billion dollars, and that they're giving it to the irs so that the irs can push forward with the implementation but two things, one, we knew the irs was going to be involved, there were estimates to thousands and thousands of new irs agents were going to be hired when this law was being debated, so that's not necessarily i think problematic from a big picture point of view. the problem is, this law is never going to cost as little as the administration portended it was going to from the outset. bill: what are these irs agents doing? is their charge to do what as it relates to the law steve? >> well, that's a very good

question. i think their roles at this point are somewhat undefined but we've seen reports there are going to be 80 some odd irs agents that are going to be monitoring and enforcing the law, the implementation of the law on the 25,000 tan ning salons across the country so they're going to have vast responsibility. the important thing is at this point, we don't know everything that's going to take place, because you know, nancy pelosi said before the bill was passed we had to pass it to see what was in it. we're still in the rule making process now, the regulation process right now, so the law is being fashioned despite the fact that it passed months and months ago. bill but the agents would be in charge of enforcing the mandate, the individual mandate if the mandate stands, correct? >> yes, absolutely, enforcing the mandate and presumably enforcing all of the various laws, the tentacles of this law, that proceed from that mandate. bill: also think about the debt with the u.s. government now. and you're from wisconsin. i'm from ohio.

ali, you're from? >> jersey, baby! >> bill new jersey. you're going to have agents looking in every dark corner to find money to continue to cover the debt that continues to grow, many would argue, on this. stephen hayes, leading our coverage in the second hour, thank you. alisyn: a prominent democrat blasting party colleagues for accusing republicans of waging a war on women. congressional black caucus chairman emanuel cleaver reacting to the recent contraception debate and calling the charges absurd. >> what we need is for you and me, and i'm willing to do it and i don't think you would, but when that happens, do what i do. i condemn it. if it's a democrat, if it's my cousin, it's wrong, and i think we need to stop that. it is damaging the body politic and further separating the people in this country. alisyn: congressman cleaver

went on to say that both sides need to quit exaggerating their political differences. bill: we've been waiting on this over the weekend, too, markets now reacting to the new monthly jobless numbers that came out on friday. they were not good, the dow down triple digits, it was off about 150, coming back a little bit now, down 136, the first time again traders have been reacting to the numbers because we were closed for good friday on -- right before the weekend. labor department reporting only 120,000 jobs added in march, the smallest increase in five months, and bad news for the economic recovery. that was about half the number that they had expected. we'll keep an eye on that, see which way we go. below 13,000. alisyn: brand new violence leaves a plan for peace in syria on the verge of collapse. more than 70 people were killed sunday, just two days before the deadline for a sunday-brokered ceasefire and as many syrian rebels say no way to a government

demand to lay down their arms, this plan for peace could be taking a turn for the worse. fox's leland vitter is live from jerusalem. leland, is it possible at this point to save this ceasefire? >> reporter: possible ali but not very likely. when the syrian government agreed to this ceasefire that starts on tuesday they said okay, we agree, we're done, thank you very much. then all of the sudden over the past week or so, they've added these conditions, including written guarantees by the opposition groups to lay down their arms. so far that hasn't happened. today on youtube this video came out from a spokesman from the syrian army or so he claims saying his group would indeed lay down their weapons. that, however, may not be enough. video os of homs, amateur video, showing continued shelling of that town and it is almost totally destroyed now there in the town of homs. also there are other outs for the syrian government. while there may be a ceasefire from the army, there won't be one from the

police which in many ways, we hear from activists on the ground, the police are just as brutal in syria if not more so than the regular army units. alisyn: of course all this causing a refugee problem, it's getting worse, so is turkey somehow going to get involved in this? >> reporter: looks more possible every day. turkey is the wild card here. right now, 25,000 syrians are in refugee camps there on the border today. those refugee camps came under attack by syrian artillery. reports there, two dead, 15 wounded. that is something that is not going to make the turks very happy. they have been supporting the rebels all along but held up on military option. this now today puts that back on the table. back to you. alisyn: leland vitter, thank you very much for the update from the region. bill: so here we are in early april and mitt romney is inching closer to the republican nomination. there's growing speculation now over who his vice president pick could be and who are the real contenders. the real contenders.

carl cameron is live on that from washington. good morning to you. has romney started thinking about this process or what with you -- are you picking up behind the curtain? >> reporter: they've begun. this is the most important decision a presidential contender can make. romney has work to do and they're beginning that process. first he has to appoint somebody to head the search. that will take a while. eventually that person will lead up a vetting team. that will take even more time. it starts with a long list that will get trimmed to a handful. people we've heard about all year include senator rob portman of ohio, bob mock donald, popular conservatives, governor chris christie of new jersey has said he'll actually consider it if he's asked, senator marco rubio of florida has said he won't be asked and he's not going to be vp. but he could deliver florida. so that's important. former secretary of state cond lisa rice intrigues republicans but she's been downplaying it, too. there are two current office holders in washington, house

budget committee chairman paul ryan of wisconsin, described of having a romance with romney last year and senator john thune who chairs the gop policy committee in the senate. don't forget rick perry and mike huckabee, both excite evangelicals but less important than the general. tim pawlenty has taken himself off the list, rick santorum in the race, as is newt gingrich but neither can be ruled out as number two because they're still in the race. lastly, mitch daniel, goes to be on the list. nicky haley said no thanks last week, bobby jindual has left the door open but new mexico's governor susan martinez and nevada's brian sednival have brushed off the idea. having said that if the commander in chief asks any of these people, it's understood, everything changes whether they say they're on the list or not. bill: you can call it you take it. tampa, the convention, end of august. when does he have to make a

decision, or strategically there a -- is there a better time than others to make it? >> just before the convention, you want to get the biggest bang for the buck. there's a sequence to the way the campaign unfold sos we've got 4 1/2 months toerdz augustings then the final 2 1/2 months and what the opposing candidate wants to do is time it for maximum impact to set up for the debates, so lots of momentum after the convention and the new running mate. bill: thanks a lot, we'll have a lot going on between now and then. alisyn: by the way we asked governor huckabee about that this weekend on "fox & friends" and he didn't say no, he de mured. bill so he would fit along the line of if you say yes -- >> alisyn: but he said something to the effect of you don't buy the core sag until you're asked to the prom. is newt gingrich ready to throw in the towel? >> i hit him as hard as he could, he hit me as hard as he could. turned out he had more things to hit than i did. that's part of the business.

alisyn: coming up, more on his comments about mitt romney that are getting a lot of election watchers talking today. bill: brit hume is going to talk about that. the chairwoman of the democratic party, accusing republicans of rooting for economic failure. karl rove responds to that in a moment, and take a look at this, will you? >> alisyn: the floor crew considering this! a news anchor not exactly getting a standing ovation. it was all live on tv. bill: and another thing! >> ♪ >> ♪ i am the eggman. >> ♪ >> ♪ i am the walrus. >> ♪ >> ♪ >> ♪ look, every day we're using more and more energy.

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bill: there was a tragedy on easter sunday, an early morning fire tear going a condo complex in a quiet suburb outside of nashville. this is how it was in the

early morning light. about 30 people now homeless, some saying they lost everything in those flames. >> total devastation. i've never seen anything like this. >> i see our lives -- our lives going up in smoke. bill: that fire started after a propane tank exploded. no serious injuries to report. alisyn: a dismal march jobs report fueling political problems on capitol hill, debbie wasserman shufts saves are too folk ugged on getting president obama out of office rather than focusing on the economy. >> the president said we've got a ways to go, we keep pushing but what is bother some to me, candy, it seems like my republican colleagues and mitt romney are root fog economic failure. alisyn: karl rove is a former senior adviser and deputy chief of staff to

president george w. bush and fox news contributor. hi karl. >> good morning, how are you? alisyn: i'm well. let's talk about what debbie wasserman schultz said. obviously, no one wants to see their fellow americans struggling, okay, but politically speaking, does she have a point, that it gets harder for republicans to run against president obama as the unemployment rate continues to drop from 8.6 to 8.3, to now 8.2? >> well, look, first of all she can't make the positive argument, she can't say look, the stimulus worked and economy is in the strong shape -- i mean, early this year the president said the economy is back, america is back and got a lot of brush back from it. she can't change the subject. she was being asked a question about the economy, so it's sort of difficult to change the subject, so the last tactic you've got is to sort of try and brush back the opposition. the problem is this, is that republicans, you've got 12.7 million people who are unemployed, you've had 38 months of 8 percent or

greater unemployment, you have the so-called u6 unemployment rate, that's people who are out of work, people who are working part-time, while looking for full-time work, or are, you know, discouraged, 14.5%, that means one out of every six americans, and we know these people, they're in our neighborhoods, they're friends, family, they are people we socialize with, people we worship with, one out of every six americans is not where they want to be economically, and 88 million people, a record number of people, are not in the work force. eighty-eight million. that's the biggest number in history of people not in the work force. so it's hard to argue against the reality of these numbers, and so you try and do what she did, which is brush it back by calling into question the republican motivations, but not very effective. alisyn: those numbers are grim, obviously, that you just held up. if somehow the latest dismal jobs numbers are an outlier and if somehow more americans go back to work, does the republican candidate then need to pivot to a different topic as we

heard mitt romney is doing with national security? >> well, look, there are four or five big issues dominating this race: jobs and the economy is one. look, we've got the weakest economic recovery since world war ii, then we've got a problem with decifit, debt and spending, which people are now starting to feel in their lives. you talk to people and they say everything is costing more from the gasoline pump to the grocery store to health care, that's in part because we're spending money we don't have. the affordable care act, which is looming there on the horizon, causing a lot of people a lot of concerns, then simply the growth and size of government, and its rules and regulations. the election is going to be fought over all of these issues. the biggest one is going to be the economy. you're right, if by some magic the economy drops down to where it was supposed to be, according to the president's own forecasters, christine romer and jared bernstein said by this time unemployment would be at 6 percent and we'd be going and blowing as an economy. if it magically happened republicans would have to accentuate the other three issues but the congress

budget office, federal reserve, maj forecasters don't see it being better than it is now. alisyn: i want to ask you about american crossroads, the superpac in which you are involved. "the new york times" is reporting that america crossroads is about to launch its first major antiobama blitz this month, in terms ofage advertising campaign. what's that going to look like? >> well, it will be revealed later this week, but president obama took his campaign, bought $1.4 million worth of ads in battle ground states to go after governor romney on the issue of energy prices, and the record needs to be set straight about what this administration's polices are with regard to energy and the american people need to be encouraged to pressure the administration to have right energy polices. the president's energy polices are not good for the country, and have all -- all this claims that he has, of oil and gas production up under his watch, on federal lands, in federal water, where he's down dramatically, on private and

state lands, it's up dramatically. that says everything we need to know about his polices which have discouraged energy production where he's in charge and yet at the same time, technology and american entrepreneurs are increasing energy production where he's not in charge. alisyn: i'm going to consider that a preview! karl rove, thank you very much for coming on. bill: did you fill up over the weekend? >> alisyn: i live in the city, bill! i walk everywhere! bill: i see. alisyn: i walk. that's my solution to rising gas prices! bill: that's how we save money, right? gas prices are sky high and folks across the country know that, but they actually could be worse. where some americans are paying $7 a gallon for regular. that's the cheap stuff. seven bucks. alisyn: is the white house still enrolling the fast & furious investigation? one republican is making that charge. why the administration does not want a key witness to talk about this. >> he's willing to talk. we have an ongoing investigation. we have subpoenas. and it's only the white house that's holding him

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alisyn: welcome back. it's 23 minutes past the houfrplt oklahoma police plan on charging two men with murder after that string of weekend shootings. three people, killed, two wounded, the suspects are white, the victims are black. the police have not said it's a crime racially motivated. the month of march putting the record book -- the record was shattered by nearly 9 degrees. >> check out this midair moment at the international space station action robotic cargo ship arriving with critical supplies. this will serve as a space age garbage bin for the next six months. bill: thaoub? alisyn: how about space junk

in the trunk! bill: we'll ask to ask them about that next time we get them on from the iss. did you fill it up over the weekend? growing fears that gas prices could go even higher before the summer. that's the height of the season, as you know. on catalina island in california, some folks are already paying seven buck as gallon, that's just for regular. that's still a long way from the national average of 3.93, but the gap could easily close, we are told, and stephen moore, senior economic writer from the "wall street journal," good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: do you see it going higher or stabilize something. >> every time i think the news can't get worse on gas prices it gets worse and this story about $7 a gallon gasoline in catalina is very troubling. in the market i live in in northern virginia, we're already paying close to $5 a gallon. think about what that means if you're paying $5, $6, $7 a gallon for gasoline. that means for people, they're paying $100 to fill

up the tank. that is a huge dent in the family budget. and you know, i just heard your discussion with karl rove about unemployment. now i think the president has something else to worry about, which is rising prices. you know, gasoline prices are usually kind of a predictor of where general prices are going to go with other types of things like food and clothing. bill: and when they go up, rarely do they come back down, the price sticks. will be, this is what has happened in the last three administrations, under the clinton years, drilling on per -- permits on federal land, up 18 percent, the current administration, they're down 36 percent. what the president says, though s. we're drilling more than we ever have. is that true? >> you know, most of the drilling that -- it is true that we're drilling more now than ever before, but bill, almost all of that drilling is going on private lands that don't require government permits. what is also true is that on public lands, on federal lands, where so much of this oil and gas lies, that's where the drilling is way

down, and that's so depressing, because you know, given how high gasoline prices are, just think about this, bill, if we had been drilling over the last three or four years in the outer continental shelf, places like alaska and colorado, we could be producing a lot more oil and gas, and i do believe that would bring pressure for the saudis and opec to bring prices down. maybe not a huge amount, but i think it helps the economy the more we can drill. bill you're arguing more supply would bring the price down. >> but i want to make another point in fairness to the president. the other factor that's going on, that's causing these high gas prices, other than obviously the turmoil going on in the middle east is we do have a very expansive monetary policy with record low interest rates, as you know, bill, and one of the effects of flooding the economy with money is to make commodities like oil and gas more expensive. so ben bernanke has to share some of the blame here, too. there's a cost to the interest rates that ben bernanke is imposing on the

economy. bill: that's a good point. more ink. steve moore, through. >> i think the solution, we all have to put our nike tennis shoes on like ali and start walking. bill that's exactly what she's tkphog about 35 minutes! thank you. >> alisyn: if not sooner! is newt gingrich trying to make a quiet exit from the campaign trail? next, what he said on fox news sunday that had people wondering if it was a concession. bill: we'll talk to brit hume about that. watch your back while you're on the air, ali. how did the protestors get in the studio? katie, bar that door! this is what camerata does when we go to break. back in three minutes.

bill developing today on the campaign trail, and interested to see where this tkpwoerbgs newt gingrich on "fox news sunday" vowing to continue his campaign but also saying this: >> well, i think you have to be realistic. given the size of his organization, given the number of primaries he's won, he is far and away the most likely republican nominee, and if he does get to 1144 delegates, i'll support him, i'll do everything i can this fall to help him defeat obama. bill: brit hume was doing the interview sunday in chris wallace's chair. how you doing, brit?

good morning. certainly our best to chris and his family during this difficult time as well. i was watching you, and i was listening to you, and i had the sense that you were trying to pick his brain, clearly, and what is your sense after that interview as to where gingrich is in this campaign? >> well, i think he's made peace with the reality that the likelihood of mitt romney winning the nomination is overwhelming, and i think that came as initially, when romney overtook past him and hit him hard with a tremendously expensive ad campaign, that the speaker really thought he was on a glide path to the nomination, the speaker, and he was angry and bitterly disap$, but i think he's gotten past that. and i think, bill, yesterday we saw the new newt. there is a new newt. it's the newt that converted to christianty -- i should say catholicism, serious about it, the old newt showed up in a number of

places during the campaign but this was the new newt. mellower man, a man with a broader perspective in the world, and we could sense that in him, and you may have noticed, bill, when we talked about the role his faith had played in coming to terms with the reality of this campaign, he was quite emotional about it and quite sincere. bill: i quat he was complimentary towards romney, especially on the part where he did the fundraising breliently i think he was humble when he said returning for president was harder than he thought. >> i was quite struck by it, i sensed it in his mood. i spoke to him briefly before hand to greet him and say hello and welcome him and so on and i have been critical of him during this campaign and i didn't know how he was going to react to having to deal with it, he expected chris, chris had been called away the night before and he was fine about it, so the interview went forward as you saw.

bill: delegate count right now, romney, 660, santorum, 281, gingrich at 135, ron paul at 51 and now we move to santorum's calculation, real clear politics average earlier today, when you put the polls together, he's at 1.7% advantage over romney in his home state of pennsylvania. he's been out of sight over the weekend, taking care of his daughter, bella, she is three years old and apparently, she needs some medical attention again at this point. what is santorum going through at the moment as far as his political future? >> he hasn't disclosed his thinking to me and probably wouldn't, but just a couple of things worth thinking about. santorum has made a tremendous comeback within the republican party, he was a forgotten man after he lost his home state by such a large margin in 2006 and he has done more with less in this campaign than probably any republican presidential candidate in modern history. it has been quite an achievement and one that he has every right to be proud of an exhilarated by and i

think he is both, but i think that the delegate mass is so -- math is so com pemming and overpowering he must recognize when he stops to think about it that his chances are remote and that raises a question about whether it's wise to press on in pennsylvania and possibly lose the race within the republican party. it's one thing to lose a statewide race in a tough year for republicans, when you've got democrats and independents who are all voting, but to lose in a republican primary, i think, would to some extent put him back where he started. now, it may than his moment has passed and this is it, all the members of the fox news sunday panel yesterday thinks it's now or never for rick santorum, even though he's a young man and would not have another run at this in four years. i'm not sure i agree with that. i think he's come so far against such long odds that he would be in the reckoning come four years from now if we don't have a republican incumbent running for election. bill: do you think, in the 15 seconds i have left, i remember you made that

comment about a week ago when you saw him and he was ebullent for how he resurrected his political career, but if you lose your home state at the end? how do you -- >> that's a blow. that's a real blow and embarrassment and puts kind of assist asterisk next to all that he's done this year and he might think better, if he looks at the odds -- and i don't know what his money situation is, but if he looks at the odds and he may think this hasn't worth it, who knows. bill: brit hume, thank you, from washington. alisyn: a recall election is coming up for wisconsin governor scott walker, but big labor is playing a big part in this battle, and the fallout could have hugebly implications for the presidential race inform november. mike, what is the political mood there about this recall? >> reporter: we're seeing some of the democrats getting nasty amongst themselves. the union was directing their members to a blogger

video last week that used creative editing. that video is about recall candidate and milwaukee mayor tom barrett, it has that he supported governor scott walker, barrett says it's absolutely false but skme and some of the other unions say they're not embarrassed because he demanded too many concessions from the milwaukee leaders. >> the leadership from a number of unions probably would prefer another candidate, i think that's accurate to say. i feel very confident with the range and file. >> reporter: the favorite candidate is former dane county commissioner kathleen tpa*ubg, she has made it a centerpiece of her campaign a promise to veto any budget that doesn't undo the changes that governor walker made to collective bargaining. >> so mike, is this recall effort a true grassroots effort, or is it one of an organized labor effort? >> well, there certainly are grass roots elements. you saw all of those signatures that were turned in on the petition drive.

there were more than enough signature there is to force governor walker on the ballot, and the people who signed those petitions are very passionate. but right wing watchdogs say make no mistake about it, unions particularly weac and asme are driving this recall. >> big labor both in state and out of state are the ones driving this recall bus forward. the grassroots volunteers need to get the grassroots fired up and turn out but this is not something the democratic party of wisconsin has control over. >> reporter: at this stage before the gubernatorial primary we've not seen a lot of out of state union money show nup wisconsin but it was there before the first round of recalls, this is ground zero in an ideological civil war. anticipate out of state money. ale al mike tobin, thank you very much. -- alisyn: mike tobin, thank you very much. bill: got your aspirin, ali, got your escalator, your yo kwrofplt, they all used to be registered brand names, did you know, that have since become synonymous with

the products themselves and that's exactly what some say could happen with the ipad, that name is owned by apple but industry experts say the company may lose its trademark as more americans use the ipad to describe the tablets. apple has yet to comment. i don't think they'd be very thrilled with that. alisyn: but it is already the -- you refer to it as the ipad. bill the experts can't say hey, that's the generic name for everybody now so you don't lose the property value, the property rights you have to that. like kleenex. alisyn: same thing. bill: xerox. alisyn: same thing. bill: camerata alisyn: one of a kind. and wrap! there's only one word for that. >> new fallout in the fast & fuous investigation, coming up, why one republican is accused of stonewalling while keeping a key witness quiet. bill: two teenagers plunge into a ravine. watch closely here.

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bill: i have an incredible rescue story this, out of ohio after two taoeupblgers go tumbling off a cliff. two firefighters set all pulley system, trying to hoist the teens to safety. a 15-year-old girl, slipping while reaching for her cell phone, a 16-year-old boy tried to rescue her, when he went down. both teenagers, eventually flown to a local hospital. the boy was listed in critical condition. we hope the best for his recovery now. alisyn: we're following developments on operation

fast & furious. there are new accusations that the white house is stonewall ago house investigation of the botched gun running sting. 1gop lawmaker saying the white house is now trying to block a key witness from talking to his committee. >> well, his personal tone attorney has indicated to our committee that he is more than willing to talk to the committee on the record under oath. it is only the white house, and the white house counsel, that is saying they will not make him available. alisyn: doug schoen is fox news contributor and former pollster for president clinton, justin spacey is former spokesman for general gen bush and owner of safety view.com. thank you for being here. >> good morning, alisyn. alisyn: good morning. i'll start with you doug. republican lawmakers investigating foss & furious -- fast & furious want to speak to kevin o'reilly, a former national security staffer, he apparently has some e-mails, he exchanged e-mails that they're interested in looking at. why would the white house block that access?

>> i think for very valid reasons, because of executive privilege, because of separation of powers. this is nothing more i think than a fishing expedition in an election year, and i think the white house is exercising what is right, reasonable and appropriate judgment. alisyn: justin, is this a fishing expedition or do they have some indication that the e-mails hold some important information? >> well, there's something very unusual in my view about this e-mail and that is there's a white house staffer that's communicating directly with the phoenix bureau chief for the department of alcohol, tobacco and firearms. that's not the proper chain of command. it's a direct link from the local level of the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms into the white house, and the fact that the white house will not allow this witness, who is apparently willing to testify, the fact that they're blocking this wing witness' testimony raises questions about just what is the white house hiding, why

aren't they willing or more transparent about this, especially given the questions raised about this entire operation fast & furious. alisyn: doug, isn't that just it? we all know at this point something went terribly wrong with operation fast & furious, so the sub trifug by the -- subterfuge makes it hard to hide. >> spwo*pbg it's subterfuge to say that basically because some republicans object to communication outside what they think is the normal channels of discussion and communication, that there should be subpoena after subpoena for documents. i mean, to me, it is a completely valid case for executive privilege, there's been no showing that mr. o'neill knows anything that is directly relevant and the fact that his attorney is willing to make them available doesn't say to me that it should overconform the overarching right of the president to have his community occasions and that of his staff be private. alisyn: you say there's no

indication there is anything in the e-mails but of course we do know a couple of excerpts, which is that he was changeing -- exchanges as justin said with the phoenix office where he says things like listen, you didn't get this from me and don't let the home office know that i'm sending you this. doesn't that alone, justin, raise some eyebrows? >> look, again, i think it does. i think it raises eyebrows. this is not about subpoena after subpoena after subpoena. this is congressual kiry, they want to speak with this willing witness, and the white house counsel's office is blocking this willing witness from even having a telephonic conversation with the congressional committee. again, i think it raises many more questions, and they can assert executive privilege but politically, this is just going to keep this story in the news, it's going to raise a lot of questions about why are they trying to hide these communications from the white house directly to the bureau, the phoenix bureau

of atf. alisyn: doug, obviously, everybody understands you don't want all of the president's communications released, that would be dangerous, no president wants that, but this is something that at least with operation fast & furious they've long been trying to get to the bottom of. that popular word in washington is the optics. the optics of this makes it seem as they the white house is hiding something. >> again, if it's the optics that drive judgments about separation of powers and executive privilege, we've gotten to a very bad point, and what justin cites is certainly language that sounds embarrassing, but it doesn't really have any smoking guns, as far as i'm concerned. so i don't see any reason why in an election year we should let the republicans do what justin described, which is to play politics. alisyn: guy, we're going to have to leave it there, doug, justin, thank you for having in to debate this, we appreciate it. bill: we're going to take you live to the white house. we've been waiting on this all year long, the annual easter egg roll.

we were watching the easter bunny at the white house and there's the first family, president obama leading the way down to the south lawn there. this year's theme is let's go, let's play, let's move! emphasis on health and all good news easterwise. this is a big year. alisyn: they are, they sometimes scare little children, by the way. as you know the first lady has been focused on let's move so this is in keeping with that theme. bill: beautiful day. really great day. nice. jon scott is standing by, coming up live on "happening now" in a couple of months. hope you had a great weekend jon. jon: i did and the bunny made it down the stairs without tripping. isn't that great, bill? plenty of stories to cover in the next two hours of news. north korea, apparently preparing not only to launch a missile but also set off an underground nuclear test, what that means to our security. >> and 6-party talks with iran, set to get underway this week. when does the time for talking with iran end and the possibility of action begin? we're also going in depth on where we stand on the race

for the white house, it seems to be narrowed down to romney versus obama, and the floodgates of money are beginning to open. just what role will the clintons play in 2012? the answers might surprise you. that's all ahead. bill: a lot to talk about. see you then jon, okay? top of the hour. some days perhaps you'd like to do this to one of us: >> your news anchor as the target! how in the world did the viewers get inside that studio? you will see it live. are you receiving a payout from a legal settlement

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bill: here now is a plan to bring back an iconic animal to the west but not without serious controversy, with the help of native american tribes, dozens of yellowstone bison have been brought to the state. dan springer is live in seattle to figure out in between all of this, what's the significance of the buffalo, dan >> reporter: of all, these are big, powerful animals, it was cool seeing them up close. these bison are genetically pure. they are direct descendents of the millions that roamed the great plains before nearly being wiped out in the 1880s, and the state of montana's plan is to get them on the plains, in the care of the same tribes that depended upon the buffalo for everything, food, clothing, shelter, you name it. a few weeks ago the state relocated 61 pure bison from a holding pen near yellowstone national park and handed them over to the senebo and sioux tribes. >> when i think of my

ancestor, they would be so pleased this has occurred. finally, finally, a reversal of fortune, if you will, for the indian people. >> reporter: there are hundreds of thousands of other bison in the country, but they are bred with battle and treated as livestock, raised for their meat, bill. bill: so dan, the ranchers, they're not all happy about this. why would that be? >> reporter: no, in fact, they're almost all against it, opponents are mainly the ranchers and wheat farmers of northeastern montana, instead of viewing of bison as an icon they see them as a nuisance that breaks down fences and competes with battle for -- with cattle for prime grazing land. over the years there have been conflicts with livestock bison escaping and doing damage. we interviewed one cattleman who shot five on day on his property, causing problems with his cattle and last year they cost him $20,000. he's afraid this is just the beginning and that when conservation -- what conserve aces really want is to create a 3 1/2 million wildlife reserve with no

room for ranchers. >> they want everything, all the fences gone, all the cattle out of here, they want this to be a giant game refuge, where it's just free roaming animals. >> reporter: and the opponents got a judge just recently to issue an injunction blocking any more future relocations so it's going to be tied up in the courts for a while, bill. bill: thank you, dan spring e. watching that from seattle. alisyn: she's one of the biggest names in the democratic party and seeing a major surge in popularity. so why won't secretary of state hillary clinton be at this year's democratic national convention?

alisyn: look at this crazy scene out of greece. protestors broke into a