here because we are definitely looking out for you! and this is a fox news alert. u.s. officials have confirmed to fox news that north korea has launched a multi-stage rocket and we also learned the launch failed. the u.s. official tells fox that it broke up between 90 seconds to two minutes aft launching and may have landed somewhere in the ocean. north korea announced it last month and said it was sending a weather celebrate into space to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the birth of the regime's founder. it has been viewed as nothing more as a test run by the regime of hits long-range missile technology. they are standing by on the phone tonight from north korea.

craig. >> the much-hyped launch by north korea appears to have end in failure. multiple sources in the south koreaian government, the japanese government, the united states government saying it got off the ground but apparently in between the stages of the first and second elements of the rocket, something went wrong off the coast of south korea. it broke up into several pieces according to government source necessary south korea and japan, debris falling into the sea. we are in pyongyang right now in north korea, and, in fact, north crowa is mum on the topic. we have been pressing officials here for some kind of response, and apparently they are still wait to go figure out how to formulate a response, how to spin this. in the past, rocket launches have been aimed putting something orbital into space have failed, and they claim that it is -- it succeeded.

we expect them today to put some kind of similar spin on it but nothing yet. it comes at a time of great importance for north korea. on sunday, the 100th anniversary of the birth of their founder. this would put a bit of a damper on the celebration so you can imagine the government here, the regime is looking hard to come up with an answer as to how to actually shape it. again, the word is on the second day of the launch window the rocket went up about 150 miles from where we are in pyongyang, but it didn't get too far according to multiple sources but still, not yet confirmed, and maybe never to be confirmed by north korea. >> thanks, craig. we will continue to monitor the situation. we will update you when we have more information. also tonight the obama administration is in a damage control mode after a prominent democrat with close ties to the white house chastised mitt

romney's wife, ann, for being a stay at home home. the comment was made by hillary rosen, who has close ties to the president. >> mitt romney is running around the country my wife tells me what women care about is economic issue. when i listen to my wife, that's what i'm hearing. guess what, his wife has never actually had worked a day in her life. she's never really dealt with the kind of economic issues that a majority of the women in this country are facing in terms of how do we feed our kids, how do we send them to school and how do we -- why do we worry about their future. >> i can't think of a morphining comment to make about mothers who forego a career to stay at home and raise their children. now after mounting political pressure, finally hillary rosen issued an apology and said her words were only poorly chosen. that's putting it mildly. earlier this evening president obama finally disdistanced himself from the remarks calling

them ill-advised. joining me is fox news contributor sarah palin. before we get to that, which is just insane, north korea, we knew this was coming. it seemed like the president, it might have been jimmy carter, they draw a line in the sand, had they cross over, draw another line, what are they going to do? >> he threats. he sanctioned when it comes to dealing with other countries, too. it's illustrating our own morein policy is becoming murkier and messier by the day. it's getting people more enthused about figuring out what our foreign policy is in dealing with north korea and others and their threats, and iran, and some desire for possible change in the foreign policy direction. >> how is it that i as a talk show host had a much better idea what would happen with the arab spring in egypt and the rise of

radical islamist and the muslim brotherhood and the president gets it completely wrong? >> right. >> he has gotten it completely wrong. he's pressuring israel not to strike against iran even though they are in jeopardy. it seems like the world doesn't respect president obama. >> he had his chance with the green revolution that was happening in iran where america could have spoken for those who were speaking freedom and some basic god-given liberties, and obama took a pass on that and yet did interject himself on some other kind of nebulous policy calls of other countries. we've interjected ourselves there why americans are saying why are we so inconsistent with our policy and venges. venges -- our interventions. >> the they keep referring to the republican war against women. the president injects himself into the sandra fluke controversy, gives her a call,

highly publicized and then he's presented with a dilemma. and that's bill mauer, who called you very offensive name, attacked your family and children, attacks rick santorum's children, and he donates $1 million to the president. has your daughter ever received a phone call from the president? >> never received a phone call but i think that's more of the same of the inconsistencies, the double standards, the deviciveness that is represented by president obama. look at what is going on today with hilary rosen. she, who has the ear of the president, who is advising the democrat party, and making such disrespectful comments about a woman who has made a very honorable choice to stay home and do the toughest job, the most important job there is, and that's raising good kids. >> and she's fought cancer, and she's battled against ms, and she's raised five great kids

that are contributing to society. but just think of this phrase. never worked a day in her life. now, i know, i have -- i have my wife, i have many friends and their wives. let's see, they have to get the kids off to school, they have to organize their activities, get them to the doctor, get them to the den dentist, get them to do their home work, make them behave or try to get them to behave, get them into bed at night, it's a full-time job. >> the comments hilary made today has awoken a lot of women across the nation. i have gotten lots of e-mails. some finances weren't a factor in their choice to stay home. and the message seems to be why is it that some on the left chews to divide, to insight with comments like that instead of just respecting women's choices and what they want to do with the gifts that god has given

them, how they want to contribute. because we all have opportunities to contribute. >> but they got two shots in at one. they got a shot in of the class warfare issue that the president has been hammering home, and then they try to take a shot on republicans and women just like in the sandra fluke case and having to deal with the bill mauer controversy, which was ensuing. it seems it backfires. the strategy doesn't seem to be working. >> they are underestimating the wisdom of the people, and the people in this case a lot of moms, a boston lot of women are saying you overplayed your hand on that. let me share with you a quick text my sister sent to me. oh, wait, didn't these people slam you, who are the same ones slamming ann romney because she stayed home with five kids, didn't they slam you for not staying home with your five kids? my sister said it's obviously not a mom thing they are slamming, it's a conservative thing. >> well said. wasn't it said at the time how

could you be vice president and be mom at the same time? >> but they have overplayed their hand on that one. very commentary on those who want to invalidate a woman based on the choice she is making whether she is staying home and working her butt off in that house or working very hard at home in addition to being able to have a paycheck outside the home. >> it's interesting that conservative women have been subjected to the worst attacks, the most vial names they have been called, and sadly for you at the top of the list, and their voices have been silent, starting with the president who lectures us about the courseness of the language and the lack of civility and the culture, but he never speaks out when it's a conservative woman being attacked. this happens with regularity. >> we don't look to our president to speak for us. we will be silent no more on an issue like this. really, it is -- as i say, it's a sad commentary on this -- this attempt to invalidate a woman for the choices that she's making when really we should be

unified. all women should be standing up for each other when you consider what's going on in this country. all women and all races and all ages. we are all suffering under obama's economy, and we need to make changes. >> i thought liberals were pro choice? you have to make their choice. >> here's the deal. here's the hypocrisy. they are not for women's choices in equality and respecting a woman's personal values or choices she wants to make unless it has to do with that woman embracing their radical left agenda. >> all right. we will take a break. i want to ask you about mitt romney, the campaign. how you see it as we move forward. we will have much more with governor palin after the break. we continue to monitor breaking news out of north korea after they defied international warnings and they fired a long range rocket. and later george zimmerman made his first court appearance today in the shooting death of trayvon martin. we will explain why a leader of the new black panther party says an army is about to descend on

sanford, florida. that and more coming up straight ahead.

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wife, michelle. >> the gop, should i be the nominee, i think can say whatever they want to say about me, my track record. if they think that they are going to try to make michelle an issue in this campaign, they should be careful because that i find unacceptable. the notion that you start attacking my wife or my family, michelle is the most honest, the best person i know. she is one of the most caring people i know. she loves this country. and for them to try to distort or to play snippets of her remarks that are unflattering to her i think is just low class. and i think most of the american people would think that, as well. whoever is in charge ever the gop needs to think long and hard about the kind of campaign they want to run and i think it's true for everybody, republican

or democrat. >> we are trusting the american voters are ready to talk about the issue and not talk about the things that have nothing to do with making people's lives better. >> but i also think these folks should lay off my wife. all right. >> why didn't he say that about the attack on governor romney's wife? >> well, that is the perfect sound bite i think that you just showed that shows that double standardism think there's legitimacy in that conversation she had that she's on intelligent woman. it's unfortunate, though, the man she married has been so unserious and so unintelligent when it comes to the policy that is should be implemented to get our country back on the right track. >> let's talk about the campaign. you are convinced romney is it now? do you think it's pretty much over? >> let me put it this way, i don't want newt to drop out. i don't want ron paul to drop out because i want debate still on the ideas that both of the other candidates have been able

to espouse and explain to the country. i want ron paul's message about cutting the budget, about the economic woeful times that we are in and what we can do about it, i want those to continue to be discussed and newt has some good ideas, too. >> are you convinced, because you spoke about this at an earlier time during the primary, are you convinced, as time has gone on, that governor romney will govern as a solid, strong conservative or do you still have doubts? >> i am convinced that governor romney, if he is our nominee, and if he is elected president, he will know to surround himself with those who inherently know to go right, to err on the side of smaller, smarter government and that gives me comfort. >> you mentioned one name for vp is allen west. i spoke to him since then and told him about your endorsement as a possible choice and he said he would accept, if asked. who else would be the choice for governor romney if he is the

nominee? >> there is long list. there is a deep bench. not necessarily do you have to be a politician to be considered a good potential candidate for vp. maybe someone who just knows how to make a payroll and meet a budget and knows how to help create jobs in the private sector. someone of that should be considered. >> how about you for energy secretary. >> you know energy is my baby and today we got to work on some energy issues that will air tomorrow night on paying at the pump special for fox. it's another, it's a segment of our economy where we have so much potential. god has just dumped resources under foot. >> next question. how do you fight back against the class warfare, the negativity, the attacks, which i think will define this campaign? i think the president that talked about we aren't a red america, a blue america, we are the united states of america, it will be a very different campaign. what is the best way to fight back? >> we have to fight back.

people have got to be aware that america cannot afford four more years of what we are under, what has been done to our great country. that's way we have high unemployment, that's why we have outrage he is energy prices that will keep increasing. we have all these problems that have got to be faced as one united america. we have got to get back to the constitution being the blueprint toward that more perfect union. and if we elect constitutional, common sense conservatives -- >> the country will be better off -- >> that understand government is not the answer. >> but you have to fight. >> we have to fight. we cannot retreat. as my dad tells me all the time, sarah, don't retreat, reload. that's what we have to tell the people of america. that's not insighting violence, it's telling people in the arena of ideas and if he ballot box, you reload, you get people in there that understand what the

constitution is all about, how to defend our republic. >> governor, always good to see you in new york. >> appreciate it. >> and coming up, we continue to monitor the failed rocket launch in north korea tonight. and still to come, tonight the leader of the new black panther party says an army is preparing to descend on sanford, florida in response to the trayvon martin shooting and he said that army is prepared, quote, to kill in self-defense. you hear those comments coming up next tonight on "hannity." with less chronic low back pain. imagine you, with less pain. cymbalta can help. cymbalta is fda-approved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain. one non-narcotic pill a day, every day, can help reduce this pain. tell your doctor right away if your mood worsens, you have unusual changes in mood or behavior or thoughts of suicide. antidepressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults. cymbalta is not approved for children under 18.

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>> breaking developments in the trayvon martin case. today george zimmerman, who has now been charged with second degree murder, made his first court appearance. he appearance before a judge in handcuffs wearing a blue jumpsuit. his new attorney, mark omara by his side. trayvon's mother made these comments today about the night her son died. >> i believe it was an accident. i believe that it just got out of control and he couldn't turn the clock back. i would ask him did he know that that was a minor? that that was a teenager and that he did not have a weapon? >> shortly after she released a statement saying that the comments that she made were miss

characterized and the accident she was referring to was the fact that george zimmerman and her son ever crossed paths. now according to zimmerman's attorney, no bond has been set for zimmerman, and he will remain in protective custody for the time being. perhaps rightly so in the wake of this brand new video. >> we are going in soon within a few weeks and we are going to train the community and community patrols and community self-defense. we aren't going to allow some neonazis to drive around and intimidate black people. and we know what we know and are trained how we train. we have to raise up an army in florida of black knee on and black people who will patrol and defend the community and we have to have a minister of defense in florida. you touch what we are building with black people and you have a hell of a price to pay. you don't build a movement if

you don't develop a movement to defend what you develop with the movement, then you are going to be out of luck. so we've got to do both. fight on all fronts. we have to build and in self-defense we've got to kill. >> joining me with the latest, fox 35 reporter in orlando, ms. butler, and shannon, let's start with you. you are there on the ground. this is a series, starting with a bounty, $10,000, posters, wanted dead or alive. congressmen and women rushing to judgment, making definitive statements without having any facts in, and, of course, the new black panther party using racist and antisemitic remarks. what is the feeling in the community tonight? >> the community want the black panthers stay out of the community. at this point we are tying

trying get on with their lives. we asked for the arrest, they got the aleft and they just want to see what happens in the legal process. this is not what sanford needs right now. they are trying to go through a healing process and comments like that just don't sit well here. >> juan, we watched this case. we heard the heard the incendiary comments. where is eric holder? are you allowed to put bounties out on people's heads and talk about race wars and there's no consequences? >> i find this sort of like a comic book i am locked in. knew black panther are very small. they aren't worthy of your attention. only reason they exist is to get in front of a tv camera -- i want no part of them. >> wait. this is too important a question. they have been out publicly. there are posters in sanford, can ask shannon. they said they want a bounty,

dead or alive, on the head of george zimmerman. they have talk with racial language and slurs and antisemitic language and you are saying to me that this should be ag in order and the attorney general should just allow people to put bounty's on people's heads and that's acceptable? >> there are far more right wing nazi people hiding in the woods of idaho by tens of thousands than there are new black panthers. they don't have millions of dollars. they are just full of bluffer and talk and nonsense. >> and what if you are wrong? and what if you are wrong? we going to say why didn't we listen? if you put a bounty on somebody's head, you should be arrested. >> to me, to me, the attention you are giving this group is playing to a stereotype. this is like a minstrel show will ignorant, angry, threatening black people and it doesn't excuse any of the racism involved in the martin case. >> if you put a bounty on somebody's head, and i will

throw this out, why don't just say those people who are putting the entire community on edge and creating an environment that is very dangerous, why don't we just arrest them? it's a simple question. >> well, that's absolutely right. the fact is it's not choosing eric holder's justice department choosing to isolate the black panthers or the neonazis down in florida. he should isolate both. they are both dangerous. i don't care how big or how small. it is a very sensitive, racial issue down there, and the attorney general should send a signal that neither extremist element is welcome. that the wheels of justice are turning, and that actually we should all look to the example of mississippi -- with ms. fulton, who operated with great desenty and honor throughout this situation and she lost the most in this situation, she lost her son. >> and that goes for the knea

nazi groups down there and they are trying to stir up trouble and creating an environment that is not safe for people in sanford and the surrounding areas. let's go back to the case, shannon, if we can for a minute. i scud about this last night. you interviewed the one eyewitness in the case. said was there a second eyewitness. both of them now saying that trayvon, they saw, they have now put on record in your interview the case of the one witness that was out that night, that trayvon was beating george zimmerman. that seems to me that that's going to be a very big part of any trial that occurs in this case. would you agree? and what new developments do you have, if any? >> well, you would think. and i certainly think marco omra is going to talk heavily with those against any others who may have that same thought or saw the same thing. today when we got that probable cause affidavit thing -- >> i read it. >> it didn't say anything like that. >> how could that be missing? >> it says very clear from the

prosecutor that george zimmerman was the aggressor, that he followed trayvon martin, and it said nothing about what trayvon martin did. they say they have it, but we haven't seen it. >> eventually this is going to have to come out and certainly the defense is going to have access to it. i'm not trying to try this case in the media because i've been critical of others, but, you know, juan, there's conflicting stories here. and george zimmerman's father, having spoken to his son, and i interviewed him, said, no, he was walking back to his car when trayvon later in the exchange came up to him and confronted him. he has a broken nose. he has lacerations in the back of his head, and we have two witnesses saying trayvon was on top of him. allen thinks it will be very difficult, unless the facts change, which they could, in getting a conviction in this case. >> well, i think the prosecutor is a professional and appoint bid the governor, and it seems to me she has taken great care in presenting the facts that she knows and saying she's resisting

any pressure from outside forces calling for any kind of indictment or. >> i'm not sure i believe that. >> hold on. i just wanted to reiterate something you said, sean. that may have been later in the incident. we don't know what happened when zimmerman first approached trayvon martin. we don't know what words were exchanged. and we don't know why a man -- >> we only have one side. >> and why man much heavier and holder is engaged in a fight with a young man and you don't know at what point the witness saw it. it could be a glimpse of a larger picture. >> but shannon's interview came from the one person that told police what he saw on that night, which frankly would be consistent with the injuries that occurred. >> let me -- hang on. let me just say this. i talked to jed bush, the former governor of florida, last week, and he said that has nothing to do with this situation. >> i don't think that would, the

defense in this case. but that's -- >> i think that's a good -- >> i think that's a good point juan makes about staying your ground law having nothing to do with this case and i'm sick and tired of these political hacks and these racial rack tiers, who are targeting the national rifle association and doing it using the gravestone of trayvon martin. they should desist from that. the wheels of justice in this case are turning and i believe justice will be done. >> thanks, guys." we will continue to follow the story. coming up, president obama's favorite billionaire, warren buffet, said that he wants to pay more taxes. coming up next, we will tell you about a monumental dispute between one of buffet's companies and the president's own irs. apparently they owe a lot of money. we have the great, great, great american panel straight ahead. whoa.

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the u.s. official tells fox the rocket failed mcguirk broke up within minutes after launching mcguirk may have landed somewhere in the motion. north korea announced the planned launch last month mcguirk said it was sending a weather satellite into space. it's been viewed nothing but a test run of north korea by it's long-range technology. a statement was released tonight, it reads to part their provocative action threatens regional security, violate enter not law mcguirk contra convenience its own recent commitments. president obama has finally acknowledged on wednesday that his proposal to raise taxes on the so- called wealthy is indeed part of an overall wealth redistribution plan. listen to this. >> we can't afford to keep spending more money on tax cuts for wealthy americans who don't need them mcguirk weren't even asking for them.

it's time we did something about it. i want to emphasize, this is not simply an issue of redistributing wealth. that's what you will hear from those who object to a tax plan that is fair. this is not just about fairness. this is also about growth. this is also about being able to make the investments we need to succeed. >> i say it's about investments, which by the way, always means spending. growth, fairness mcguirk what do you know, it's also about redistribution of wealth. so while the president is eager to raise taxes on job creators in america, some folks wants to go in a different direction mcguirk that includes my next guess, john kasik. the last president who ran on that he lost 49 states running against ronald brag reagan in

1984. is this a good campaign strategy, is this good for the economy? >> sean, all i care about is how it's going to affect the economy. raising capital gains taxes, which are tacks on risk takers, mcguirk raising taxes so washington can spend more is a prescription for actually hurting our ability to grow jobs here in the state of ohio. you know, in our state, when i came in we were $8 billion in the hole. our credit was on the verge of being downgraded, mcguirk people said there is no way that he can get this budget balanced. we balanced the budget mcguirk cut taxes. we lowered the income tax mcguirk killed the death tax so small businesses didn't have to sell in order to pay the bills. mcguirk we also streamlined our regulation. when i came in we were 48th in the country in terms of job growth. last month we were the number one job create tore in america. we are now the number four job

creator over the last year. while everyone else was being downgraded in spain snd france mcguirk even america. we've gone up. i had 89 cents in a rainy day fund mcguirk we have now $240 million in the rainy day fund. so by stream lining the regulatory environment, by reducing taxes mcguirk being fiscally responsible, >> we have the biggest tax increase with the expiration of the bush tax cuts. we will have the largest tax increase in history, and we still have minimal growth. mcguirk frankly, he's going to end up going through his -- the first four years of his presidency not having created single job but having a net loss of jobs. >> well, sean, look. mcguirk look at the regulatory

said. the epa regulation the on coal is hurting the mid-rest. some have to retire plants because there's too much pressure when it comes to operations, particularly long-term. we look at the banking laws we have this the country and we could see more consolidation of big banks. they are cutting back money at a time we need to train americans for jobs that exist in the 21st century. they promise the increase in taxes. what it does, it's not ideological, it's not political, it's common sense. it frees people who are job creators in place because they don't know what is going to hit them. in our state we are providing certainty. when you don't do that you make people who are going to invest and create jobs nervous mcguirk they get hurt.

mcguirk who gets hurt? families mcguirk children. when families working, the family is stronger and they get people out of poverty. >> the president often talks about the warren buffet wanting to pay more and pay higher taxes but it it come as a shock to the ira considering one of his companies owes about $366 million and is in a battle with the irs. a slight adendum for that. >> it punishes people who create jobs. your friend bob beckel said i never knew of a job create bad a poor guy. >> i said that. he stole my line. >> well, beck will steal it. you know, he's up to anything. but the fact of the matter is class warfare just tears us apart. the country needs to be united.

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>> tonight on our great, great american panel he's the editor of "the daily caller.com." and she's the democratic strategist, christy setzen is here. and bernard mcguirk. >> i tell you, i'm still star struck at meeting sarah palin tonight. >> i said i hope you feel

better. he said you don't mean it. what is that? >> well, he's like willis read. he shows up to work every day, hasn't missed a day. >> we want him healthy. don, hope i feel better. here we have the surrogate to the president saying ahn romney has never worked a day in her life. joe biden was asked about it earlier tonight. here's what he said. >>. hold on. let's go to the original comment by hilary rosen. >> mitt romney is running around the country saying my wife tells me what women really care about are economic issues. when i listen to my wife, that's what i'm hearing. guess what? his wife has duly never worked a day in her life. she's never really dealt with the kinds of economic issues. >> let's go to joe biden. he weighs in as well.

here is what he said. >> this guy talking about women? these guys talking about women? these guys have a social policy on contraception that takes you back to the 50s. i mean, when asked a question, do you think the legislation passed mandating that your son and daughter doing the same work will have to get the exact same day, that law, they couldn't answer. >> so the war on women is real? >> i think the war on women is real. >> talking about a guy that called laura ingraham a slut, a talk slut. do you think he should have done the interview? like the pac should keep the $1 million from mauer? >> i thought we were talking about hillary rosen here. >> should he do an interview and lecture republicans on women when he's talking to a guy who called a woman a talk slut. >> what he is talking about is policies with regard to women. and that's the whole reason why in fact hillary rosen said what

she said. by the way, i think she never should have said what she did about ann romney. but the good news is she's not any kind of actual advisor. >> i've been to the white house 35 times. haven't you, tucker, with obama? >> yeah, i'm going after this. a lot of women stay real sacrifices to stay home and raise their kids. they forego a higher standard of living because they aren't making money, it's regard raising kids and nobody congratulates them. >> never worked a day in her life? >> it's not just hilary rosen, there's people in my neighborhood. they say what are you doing with your life? we are raising kids. i wish someone who acknowledge that on the democratic side somehow. >> uv the obama party demonizing

anddom going everything from class warfare to war on women. it perpetuates what they are initiating. and he gets into a fire fight. they leave her on the battlefield. talk about throwing a womaned bus. >> how do they justify this? biden gives the interview to a guy who calls them a talk salute and the pack takes a million dollars from a pie. >> in other words, they are should return the $1 million to bill mauer? i asked you a question. i said should they return the money to bill mauer? >> i do not believe so, no. >> they should keep the million dollars but they are going to call sandra fluke and say this is morrow i believe. i wouldn't want people to talk about my daughters this way, they should be free to say what they want. >> we are talking about republican policies against women. we are talking with regard to sandra fluke, 99% of sexuallily

active women at some point in their life will use contraceptives. >> you are talking about another issue. a guy who called women sluts, the t-word, exactly. >> they can take that money. >> they can take the money? >> listen, i think -- >> well, i got to go to break. we will come back and pick it up here because bernie wants to weigh in. >> yeah, let's do it. >> that and more next.

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>> weeding we continue with the great, great american panel. >> well, it's entertaining. i would say it's almost enter than porn. i know you disagree with that. but it's been -- >> i've never seen porn before. >> it's all these guests, they are all turning into joe biden. president obama the last couple weeks. >> if you are going to go and talk about a republican, quote, war on women, and you go talk to a woman who called a person a slut and that was a big deal to the president, i mean, isn't there an irony in that? >> a deep irony but the press isn't holding anybody accountable for this. >> i'll be the only one. >> that's probably right. >> and, b, we need money. a bigger problem raising money than people realize. a lot of the traditional donor are not enthusiastic about obama

as they were four years ago. it's tough. >> i think you are right on the money. i totally agree with you and you have more insight than i do because you actually know the people involved in the pacs and you have been reporting on it. >> they are trying to energize their base, it's not working. it is backfiring. with each issue they have tried, sandra fluke, and then they have to answer about bill mauer and all these other, you know, controversial donations. in this case now they have got, you know, deal with other issues. i think it's backfired. >> i think that's just not true. i think what we've seen is that -- >> well, now hillary rosen is the issue and it's not what they wanted it to be so it backfired. >> but they certainly don't agree with them, and that's why they walked back her statement so quickly because -- >> she said it three times before she backed it off, and i felt like the ninth line of her apology, if you read it closely, she almost doubled down again. >> what i'm saying is romney still has a very big problem with women. >> what is his problem with

women? what is his problem? >> he's losing by as much points in some polls against the -- >> well, there's a poll out today, obama 45, romney 45, a president who has his approval rating at 41%. no president can win with those numbers. >> and there's still a gender gap. president is winning consistently across the board with women. >> why? the marriage rate has declined. an unmarried women with no kids tends to vote liberal and the opposite is true with married women with kids. it's just fewer are getting married. >> and where is hope and change? now it's divide, class war tear, energize the base, attack. >> and the problem is the sad part is this will pass, and we will be back with the real issue, and that is romney's inability perhaps to convey the real problem, which is the debt, which affects everybody, men, women and children. >> obama will not escape it no