closing down shop. thank you for being with us tonight. let us know what you thought about tonight's show. good n remember what we said on fox. >> greg: hello, i'm the dainty defender greg gutfeld. she puts the va-va-voom in the courtroom, birdie kim. more tails than a kite factory, bob beckel. traded fat calls for margin calls, eric bolling. if america were a box of cracker jacks, she would be the prize. dana perino. it's 5:00 in new york city. 4:00 a.m. in the underground shrine. this show is tighter than bob's little black book. so let's do this america. ♪ ♪ >> greg: so outrage is like bouncing betty. one minute, rush limbaugh is cornered and the next you're running for corner which hillary rosen just found out.

>> mitt romney is running around the country saying my wife tells me what women really care about is economic issues. when i listen to my wife, that's what i'm hearing. his wife has never worked a day in her life. >> greg: oops. what is next for hillary, the so-called p.r. expert, condemned to salvation army for ringing bells too loudly? criticizing nurses for only wearing white? shame puppies for being too adorable? what a disaster for the white house. i bet a stay-at-home mom would know how to clean this mess up. >> my career choice was to be a mother. all of us need to know we need to respect choices that women make. other women make other choices. to have a career and raise a family, which i think hillary rosen has done herself. i respect that. >> greg: nice. you could go nuts over rose rosen'sdess on stay-at-home moms but don't. be grateful when the lefty reveals its real self.

it's like when you see a whistling duck. analyze it. don't be scared. what did we learn? anyone can be a p.r. expert. and folks like rosen and romney is a quaint irrelevant nonentity, nonfeminist choices were never her own. seriously, why would you be a stay-at-home mom when you can mock them on cnn for money in full-time mom is simply blind to her own subservience of pateryiar i can. why in the media hype over sandra fluke, fighting for free abortion pills beats raising children. literally. the left realizes they just undo their own life. but the screw up is mock mitt for listening to his wife. maybe he thinks ann should just shut up and bake cookies. dana, since i wrote that gem, hillary rosen apologized. i think we have the apology up here. i want your response. the apology she says i apologize to ann and anyone

else who was offended. let's declare peace in this phony war and go back to focusing on the substance. so you start a war and then you say let's end this. it's phony. because you're upset and phony. >> dana: i start with my husband. okay, wait, oh, yeah, right. moving on. i know hillary rosen. i have been friends with her for a while. we used to be neighbor. not anymore. when i heard the comments, i'm not entirely surprised. because you are liberal side and you look at the context of how she said it, you would not necessarily be outraged. my stomach flipped when i saw it. i me a illed you guys right away and -- i e-mailed you and said holy cow, this will explode. i don't know why the apology didn't come sooner. now she has been distanced by axelrod and the white house.

even joe biden said what she said was outrageous. she has had a day worth of damage control after she double downed with several things that were also offensive. it was i admire you but -- i think the whole thing is bizarre. i'm glad. phony war on women they started is over. great. then we won. >> greg: now we have a war on moms. even better. i want to go to carney. he was on at a press conference today. they were trying to -- i guess reporters trying to find out how much rosen interacts with the white house. >> i haven't seen the records. i know three personally, women named hillary rosen so i'm not sure it represents the person we're talking about necessarily. i really can't comment on a number of this. i'm not sure it's accurate. >> greg: i know 16 hillary rosens. >> eric: can i point out that immediately after you saw the tweet, you said i expect any minute now the white house will start distancing

themselves from hillary rosen, axelrod and you were right on. spot on. point one thing out and move on. it didn't only disrespect stay-at-home moms but disrespected every family that has a stay-at-home mom, including me. my wife stays at home and cares for my son. she works harder than i do by ten. >> greg: but that is not much. >> eric: true. but i still appreciate her. to disrespect me and anyone else who has a wife oh who stays home. >> bob: that was a bad analogy. bad one. >> greg: did you watch -- when they were talking to carney today, he didn't seem like he disavowed what he said. they just didn't want anything to do with it. >> bob: i don't get carney generally. i really don't. dana and talked about this before the show. why don't they just say it was a mistake, distance yourself from it and walk away and move on. hillary rosen has a history of saying things that are somewhat inappropriate. they call her a strategist. she ought to turn that label

in and get herself another job. finger paint or something. i think it's outrageous. what i also find outrageous is conservatives and my implication, your monologue, that suggested this is something that the whole left believes in. that is just absolutely wrong. it is an isolated incident where once again conservatives take this and spread it out and say all of you, all of the left is like this. >> greg: i agree with you, but when i'm writing my monologue, i don't care. >> bob: i know. [ laughter ] that is my point. >> kimberly: greg, this is -- michelle obama had a good tweet about this. every mother works hard and every woman deserves to be respected. i think that was the right approach to take. you should have respect for all mothers. stay-at-home mom or working mom like myself is a very tough job. there are great men, like at this table, that appreciate the work and thought process and energy that goes into it, the dedication. what hillary rosen said and

the way she handled this is really abomination, i think. disrespectful to all women. >> bob: my ex-wife stayed at home all the time. i wish she hadn't. >> eric: he is hasn't apologized. she still hasn't. >> greg: if she is not sorry, don'tp apologize. i'm tired of the fake apologies and the fake outrage. she said something stupid. she believes it, don't apologize. >> kimberly: it's not sincere. >> dana: remember, i'll probably never be invited to another georgetown cocktail party after this. the firm she works with sdk is very close, multiple people who work there, including anita dunn with the white house. they have a lot of comments i'm sure probably want the p.r. advice on the merits but also know that they are close with the white house.

in some ways this is an economic decision. i guarantee that there is the d.c., democratic establishment if we could call them. they will circle around. they will whisper behind her back and make sure oh, we're -- we know you didn't mean that. of course you didn't. >> bob: it's not that she has deep flaws. i think she will be thrown under the bus. the firm got $130,000 from the dnc. they have an economic take in this. i'm curious to see how they deal with it. she has a tendency. i happen to like her. she has a tendency to say things without thinking it through. much like me. i have a reason, i was a drug addict. >> dana: she was saying ann romney is not to turn to determine what women go

through. but ann romney has never hidden the fact they have had wealth. they travel the country, unlike people who are only in washington, d.c., to see what moms go through. the policy choice from the romney conservative camp is we want all women, all people with more economic opportunity and economic growth to make a choice to stay home if you want to. >> eric: quickly. what she also did is open up the ability for concern who may not got behind mitt romney and romney. they are outraged. >> greg: energize -- >> dana: that is why she is really in trouble. >> bob: that is massive overstatement of the case here. >> greg: you don't know. there are a lot of people who aren't interested in politics, stay-at-home moms perhaps that now are. i want to ask kimberly a problem. president obama felt terrible about what rush did to sandra fluke. called her immediately. she was in danger of not getting her birth control pill. is he going to call ann romney because of this? >> kimberly: of course not. double standard. he could be inconsistent with

his own, i would say and many hypocritical behavior if he did call. he should. that would be the right thing to do. i pointed out what michelle obama did. she is showing more leadership than her husband has. >> dana: to me, why is it axelrod? where is valerie jarret out? where is valerie saying those things are wrong? look the men who are established, that created the phony war on women in the first place. >> eric: they're mad because they're not paid as much. >> bob: this story is much to do about nothing. next week nobody thinks about the story. i know we want to talk about it, a big deal. excited about it. but nothing story. >> greg: when it was rush, a huge story. when it's reverse, it's not a big story. >> dana: a lot of people in the main stream media i can't believe people are outraged about this. this is crazy. >> bob: it is. >> greg: it's not crazy.

coming up, do feminists have a problem with stay-at-home moms? or do stay-at-home moms report v a problem with feminists? we'll report. go in the kitch and make me a peanut butter sandwich. e-mail us at thefive@foxnews.com. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ >> dana: women have had a problem ever since they got the right to vote, i suppose, as greg just said. today, even though bob said in the previous block it wasn't a big story, actually, it's been discussed on "the view" and whoopi goldberg came to hillary rosen's defense. take a listen. >> women who stay home and raise their children are working. this is something that we have had to deal with for years. try to explain to men what raising children is like. for me, i think she spoke

before she thought. >> dana: wait. or did she speak her thoughts? >> greg: if you speak before you think, you are speaking the truth. whoopi does it all the time and she breaks wind on the show. >> dana: how do you know that? >> greg: i watch "the view." >> bob: she does. where did that come from? >> dana: before we get off on -- women and their role in the world and in america and how they choose to live their lives has always been of interest. in 2004, teresa heinz-kerry said about laura bush in 2004, i don't know that she has ever had a real job, i mean since being grown up. as being a librarian and teacher wasn't a real job. listen to 199 # and something that set off a huge fire storm

then. >> i suppose i could have stayed home and baked cookie, but i decided to follow my profession. >> kimberly: it's offensive now. still. i can't believe she said that. she is a hard-working woman and offensive that people were not a stay-at-home mom, she is a career person. you have to show respect. >> bob: let's really roll some eyes. republicans have been lousy on women's issues. they led the equal rights amendment that republicans defeated. the democrats led for equal pay, right to sue. republicans were against it. republicans have traditionally been against women in the workforce. period. >> dana: hold on. as the second woman to be defense secretary of the united states i don't see a lot of women, republicans not encouraging women to be there.

i mean, you look at president bush cabinet had more women than any of the others. so and also, if you care about education, reform. if you care about social security, had a plan for that. border security? sent the national guard. those are women issues. >> bob: go on to head start where the republicans increase it at all time. and early women and children -- the welfare support. and republicans are against that. go on and on and on. you are trying to match us on where do republicans fall. >> eric: maybe i read it wrong. is it about who is stronger on women's issue or the left coming to defend a stupid comment made by liberal? >> bob: i didn't defend it. it jumped on it. >> dana: we have breaking news that came across. president obama apparently has said being a working mom is one of the hard eth -- being a mom is one of the hardest jobs and he didn't say her name but that hillary rosen's comments were ill-advised by someone on

television. when jay carney says he knows three hillary rosens, the white house visitor log shows that a hillary rosen went to the white house 35 times. guess how many times david petraeus has been to the white house? >> greg: three times? >> dana: nine. >> bob: no question that hillary rose than showed up is the same one. but remember, petraeus has only been the c.i.a. director for -- >> kimberly: but why did carney make comments like that? he's a shapeless amoeba. he says things -- >> dana: in the first segment you mentioned it's not a big story. if the president of the united states feels he has to comment on it or is asked about in a local interview he is doing, it's riz on the the level of a pretty big deal. >> bob: for the day, it is. >> kimberly: the president is making comments. do you agree that he said that? good move. he's watching "the five." >> bob: what you are not going to get is more women to

vote for the republicans than democrats. it's simple as that. >> eric: michelle obama goes home and says hey, barack, get out there and straight then out now. >> bob: i don't know. what dis your wife tell you when you go home? >> eric: she works harder than me. >> dana: greg, take us out of here. greg has a joke which is great at this moment. >> greg: how many inside the beltway feminists does it take to screw in a light bull lightb? none. they have a nanny do that. >> kimberly: that won't cause any problems. >> greg: the big story here is that discrepancy in pay for women at the white house. versus men. yuf want to talk about problems with gender pay. >> bob: every institution in america. if you go there, the secretaries --

>> bob: but somehow no one talks about the white house. >> eric: including the white house. >> bob: i bet you every -- >> kimberly: what about the women underpaid -- >> dana: i got paid the same. we got to move on because there is john edwards if you remember him, the democratic presidential candidate? he waged his own personal war against women. his trial is starting. we have it covered when we come back. >> kimberly: oh, boy. ♪ ♪ [♪...] >> announcer: bank robbery certainly is a frightening crime. after all, bank robbers stole $43 million in one year. but identity thieves? try 18 billion! and guess how identity thieves are getting some of that money. by taking over our bank accounts. they may not even need your social security number anymore.

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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> kimberly: jury selection in the trial of two-time democratic presidential candidate john edwards finally

started today. edwards faces six criminal counts related to $1 million of secret payment by campaign donors, to hide his affair with his former mistress and mother of his child, miss hunter. oh, boy. >> dana: you could not make this up. this is like the best fiction writer ever, you could never come up with the story. greg >> greg: i would love to be a registered voter in greensboro, north carolina. this is the jury charge i love. bribery, sex tape, expensive haircuts. this is not going to court. this is like going to bob's apartment every day. >> bob: on a serious note about this, here is the problem. i don't think there is any doubt that this man deserves the worst that could happen to him in many ways because he hurt people along the way. a test of a new federal election law that's never been tested before. tough bar to prove here.

i would not be surprised if he walked away scot-free. very few election law issues has the prosecutors won. because it's complicated. they send it through donors, who got it. >> kimberly: he is right. this is a precedent-setting case, but it doesn't mean that it's not a good law or he is not guilty of it. >> eric: not that different from insider trading. hard to prove. unless you have e-mails that say i did this. once you have one and on record, then all of a sudden -- >> bob: you are right. good analogy. there isn't a lot of precedent. there is not a lot of federal election law going before the court. i've been hauled before the

election committee for a few times. but not breaking the law. this is one of the toothless organizations imaginable. i think we have a hard burden too, here. 101-year-old lady who gets money here. there is a good point, gave it to a guy young. you were going to make a point. >> dana: it's true that the law does not say you can go to jail for being a pig. >> kimberly: we read it carefully. >> dana: that is what he is. there were so many people loyal to him including a young political aide who was willing to -- he was married himself to go with his wife to move to california, to cover for john edwards. the whole thing -- >> greg: precedent. this was his payoff. if there are any hot women in the jury he'll make goo-goo

eyes at them. play off being a widower. >> kimberly: do you think that will help him? this man's wife was dying of cancer and going out campaigning for him and he had an affair that he tried to cover up and was hiding, crouching in the corner of this -- in the bathroom from the "national enquirer"? >> bob: i bet the judge didn't allow that in the trial. >> kimberly: the "national enquirer" part or the whole affair? >> eric: let's say he's found guilty of election fraud. what is the penalty. >> kimberly: sorry, a zillion years behind bars. looking at 30 years, $1.5 million in fines if the judge exacts all the charges. you have conspiracy charges. of course, the whole bribery stuff, the payoff. >> bob: the other thing that underscores, presidential elections of which i've been involved with a few, there are people who really do, an

unusual environment in and of itself. the lure of getting to white house will make people do some of the strangest, most outrageous things in the world. >> eric: what is worse than this? >> bob: i'm saying it's not hard, you ask yourself can anybody believe somebody would do that? i do. i've been in presidential campaigns before and seen people as ambitious as they are. >> eric: no different than a ceo and a lot behind bars right now, ceo who uses the company money to bund national parties. this happens all the time. when they get busted they go to jail. >> kimberly: here is the deal. he said this, that, trying to delay it. guess what? one of the main witnesses has died. okay. then you have bunny melon who is 101 years old. >> dana: her name is bunny

melon. that is like something from hollywood. >> kimberly: that is a big deal. you know bunny melon. >> bob: i do know bunny. this is set up, it will be one of those stories, a soap opera. it's got to be. this is a scam from the beginning, because you can't make this up. it's too perfect. >> dana: the thing i don't like some people say well, hasn't he suffered enough? >> greg: no! >> kimberly: no! >> bob: one thing i'd like to say, we haven't mentioned here, people i feel most sorry for are his kids. >> kimberly: so do i. yeah. >> bob: they're the ones that have been through this. horrible situation. it won't be worth that much when it's said and done. >> kimberly: looking at six counts. a lot of trouble here. the main key they have to prove knowledge he knew and the other difficulty is the third party situation. >> dana: let's hear it for the "national enquirer." >> greg: yeah, they got it right. >> kimberly: coming up -- bob -- president obama invokes

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>> the wild-eyed socialist class hiking tax warrior was ronald reagan. he thought in american the wealthiest should pay their fair share. >> eric: whatever. i'll let rush tell it. >> they have revisionist history about the reagan years. all of it, what they need to move their agenda forward, when they need to marshall support for what they are trying to do, who do they invoke? lbj? no. teddy kennedy? no. j.f.k.? no. r.f.k.? no. bill clinton? no. they invoke ronald reagan. >> eric: revisionist history. exactly right, bob. reagan and obama are miles apart. the divide cannot be wide enough in the world. >> bob: that is in your view, and your view is a wide

view anyway. the idea first of all, tarted by sag he compared himself to reagan. he did not. he did not compare himself to reagan. he was citing something that reagan said and reagan did say the things. it was crazy, the wealthy had as many tax loopholes they had and he was cutting taxes. he said one thing is wealthy should not get out from underneath the responsibility to pay taxes ala mitt romney. >> eric: romney wasn't coming up here. but the marginal tax rate from 50% to 28% to the top level. president obama wants to raise tax rates. ronald reagan oversaw massive drop in unemployment. 43% drop in unemployment from the beginning of reagan till the end. unemployment is up. median income under reagan went up $4,000 bucks per family. >> dana: i think it's important that when we make

comparisons we have to take the whole quick conditions in to account. a lot of things are different from reagan days. the principal of tax reform is not what what president obama is talking about. take it from the "washington post," a fact check and said that it's misleading for obama to suggest that reagan was pushing for the same concept and label the buffett rule the reagan rule. two pinocchio. does he keep getting pinocchios over and over from the fact-check organization. they don't double down. they are all in on this. i don't think it's working. democracy they say it enough somebody will believe it. the perception is reality thing. people will be hypnotized to a stupor and follow that, whatever you say. it couldn't be further from the truth. call it misleading. i don't care. your nose is growing. >> greg: this is exactly what reagan would do. and obama saying for buffett rule, it's surprising.

there are other things you didn't know about reagan, according to president obama. reagan and chairman mao were pen pals? did you know that? they often wrote their love of box turtles. reagan was communist vegan. he once dated lizza minelli. didn't work out. reagan owned a condo in havana with fidel castro and despite rumors, they were just close friends. reagan was actually a social community activist. born in kenya. [ laughter ] >> kimberly: go to your corner. let's also -- >> bob: you have made reagan to a mystical figure here. remember not a single agency or department was closed under ronald reagan. unemployment at one point was 10.5%. the reality is that the military is bigger and more

powerful today than it ever was under bush. >> eric: president obama wants to rename the buffett rule, the ronald reagan tax. you should name hit ther, sir, call it the president obama tax on success. how is that in >> dana: we'll show success entrepreneur tomorrow. we'll have to keep it in the show. >> eric: we have to leave it there. coming up, remember the movie "footloose"? >> that's right. >> what? >> it's illegal. >> jump back. >> eric: one town in florida wants to band dance hall and dance club. and somebody is considering moving down there to be mayor. we hear about his platform when we come back. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> bob: hi. before i get to my story, i got to say one thing. the last song we had from the move re "footloose." what was it about? i never saw it. >> greg: a guy with an artificial foot that falls off. he runs around yelling foot loose! but nobody helps him because they want to dance. >> eric: okay. on to the news of the day. the california supreme court in an outrageous decision allowed employers off the hook, in california as in most states, not all, mandatory to provide workers with lunch breaks and breaks during the course of the day. the case is do they tell the workers to go on the break or

is it up to workers to decide they'll take the break. they decided that the corporation once again probably had the most campaign and once again they can work people to death. to the corporate stooge here. eric? >> kimberly: that is not nice. >> eric: here is what i recommend. workers take a lunch break. get fired and stay on unemployment for 99 weeks. a better deal. >> kimberly: work it out. >> bob: the reason we have child labor laws corporations used to work children at age 11 and 15. >> greg: kids were better then. >> bob: trust me. big corporations provide a lunch break and not working hard. something i'm not willing to allow happen. i don't buy it.

>> dana: i don't think they should have to enforce lunch breaks. they should have to give them lunch. i'm always hungry at this time of the show. if they provided us food, it would probably -- i would be able to get through the show and not be angry. >> kimberly: i ask for that every week. >> eric: two words of that. you said have to provide. >> dana: that's what i'm saying. >> eric: and they might -- >> kimberly: you don't really think that. >> bob: what is the problem an employer saying it's lunch break time. >> kimberly: stop babysitting everybody. overall theory and way of life. weakens the country. the democrats out there see california as a nirvana, a theme of entitlement. i'm going to babysit you, bob. >> bob: if you produce a lot of product and selling real well, do you think the workers remind them to take a lunch break? >> greg: i don't think the court should get involved in

issues unless it involves using microwaves in the work office. if you microwave fish or broccoli, it's disgusting. >> bob: this is disgusting. moving to westin florida to wage campaign for mayor. the current board of supervisors has decided they should not have in the town nightclubs, dance hall and skating rings. if it were up to me, have all of those things and a few bar bars, where people may or may not wear a lot of clothes. the idea with a town with bad nightclubs is the ridiculous idea i heard. >> eric: they don't allow dancing in new york city without a cabaret license, did you know that? >> kimberly: can you imagine that? ice skating and $is ridiculous. >> eric: this is. fewer regulation in westin but more -- >> bob: no, no regulation. >> dana: if this is what the town wants, that's fine.

since i don't go out, it might be a good retirement home for me. >> greg: this has a lot to do with people congregating and committing acts of crime that had 20 people die in the last decade. from guns. gunfire near nightclubs. nightclubs attract group of young kid who do bad things. >> bob: they convince people to have weapons. that's why people are dying. >> kimberly: you walked into that. >> greg: this is more about cowardess. >> bob: you can't have a nightclub? what is that all about? >> greg: you can talk about the behavior in the culture, in the culture that can't handle going out without violence. that is the problem. nobody has the guts to say we have a problem with a generation of kids. >> dana: why no needing? >> kimberly --why no skating? >> kimberly: look at the

cute little girl. >> eric: what is banning stuff. >> bob: roller skating thing, they worry because they're roller skating stoned and run into each other. >> kimberly: this is a picture of a 5-year-old little girl. >> dana: i went to araparo road and i loved it. >> greg: you had a birthday party at a roller rink? i'm not surprised. >> dana: skate city. >> bob: well, westin, all i can say is fire you city supervisors. bring in people that believe in real good music. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> greg: time for one more thing. it's a shame you weren't watching kimberly dance right now, it would have changed your life. one more thing. >> kimberly: change position. [ laughter ] so did you, bob.

so axle rose, they want to induct him in the hall of fame, guns and roses. and he doesn't want to go because he says the hall of fame is not good for him. the hall of fame induction ceremony doesn't appear to be somewhere he wanted or respected. he cites the ongoing personal, professional tension with the other band members. he formed like a new guns and roses -- >> dana: i am going to save you, kimberly. >> kimberly: none of these boys are listening. >> dana: the thing about guns and roses. >> greg: what is your one more thing? >> bob: unbelievable. if we had a highlight reel of the show, it would be -- anyway. first of all, you probably all listen here when all of my colleagues made fun of the program from the obama administration. solyndra and the other things. speaking of the house, boehner asked energy secretary steven

chu to prove we created one job and he wanted a study. he got it. $9 billion program created 52,000 and 75,000 jobs. in this country and continues to create jobs. renewable industry energy is alive and well. that is a fact. speaker boehner, you asked for it, you got it. >> eric: $9 billion created 52,000 jobs? that's what they are proud of. >> bob: just a start. how about the $9 billion -- >> kimberly: bob -- >> greg: got to go. where are you going? >> eric: got a picture. don't -- >> bob: get it out of here. i don't want it. governor palin and i tape the special that will air tomorrow night. >> dana: is that really gas? >> eric: bob is afraid of it. tomorrow night. >> kimberly: what will you doing? this this is getting weird. >> eric: love it. >> dana: i discover a new

blog. political math.com. a great chart, example of some of the things that wonderful guy does, he lives in utah because he pulled this up. this is his chart about how much money the buffett rule, president obama's buffett rule would reduce the deficit. that compares to without the buffett rule. check out politicalmath.com. >> greg: dune in "red eye." kimberly guilfoyle is on. double dose of k.g. >> kimberly: does this count as a date? >> greg: this is van gogh vodka. i like vodka, flavored vodka. this is peanut butter and jelly flavored vodka. >> dana: outrageous. marketing to kids. >> greg: what is next? tuna salad? kimmed by you said you