lights are blinking, thank you for being with us tonight. make sure gou to greta wire.com and tell us what you thought about tonight's show. there is lots of video there. >> bill: the reporting live factor is on, tonight. >> did you attend the 2010 western regional conference in las vegas. >> on the advice of my counsel i respectfully decline to answer. >> bill: the scandal surrounding the general services aisis man jeffrey neely have taken 131 trips on the taxpayer dime. should he take a trip to prison? we'll have a special report. >> we had urged the "l.a. times" not to run those photos. >> bill: but the "l.a. times" did run grizzly photos of u.s. military people pofsing with dismembered bodies of the enemy. did the l.a. paper put nato lives in jeopardy by doing so? laura ingraham has some

thoughts. >> by 6:00 the next morning, we knew that there was three. and we were one of them. >> bill: and an elderly couple from illinois wins $158 million after taxes. talking about hitting the lottery. [ applause ] >> bill: also tonight dennis miller on the secret service scandal and the death of dick clark. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. captions by closed captioning services >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. another reason why no americans should pay any more taxes. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. president obama continues to higher taxes on the affluent expand government in record breaking ways. since the president has been in office. about 147,000 government employees have been add dollars to the payroll.

despite the $16 trillion federal debt. as we have been reporting, government waste has reached end proportions. this man 57-year-old jeffrey neeley the acting commissioner of the general services administration specific rim region may have taken 131 trips worth more than $100,000 on the taxpayer dime. neeley was also behind the outrageous $823,000 las vegas junket. >> did you attend the 2010 western regional conference in las vegas? >> mr. chairman, on the advice of my counsel, i respectfully decline to answer based on my fifth amendment constitutional privilege. >> what a weasel. here he is, mr. weasel, in a vegas hotel room using a hot tub with a champagne chaser or two. and we pay for this. ah. i would be smiling, too huh, jeff? neeley also took trips to hawaii and south pacific.

we hope they had hot tubs in both those places. mr. president, you are telling me i should pay more taxes so jeffrey can run around the world jumping hot tubs. is that what you are telling me? >> federal government needs to be down sized and reorganized. one thing after the other. if it isn't secret service chasing hookers, bankrupt solar energy companies or research studies that put shrimp on a treadmill. remember that? and that reminds me, neeley was the guy who okayed the $4 shrimp advertiser in vegas that so upset jon stewart. it is beyond galling to continue to pound the table for more tax dollars. education they want more money. the united states spends more than any other country on earth to educated students. jobs more money. green energy? more money. it never ends. i think god sent us jeffrey neeley. the deity allowed investors to

uncover what that guy was doing. if american voters still don't understand the giant con that is going on at the federal level, then we deserve to be like grease then we deserve to be like greece. talking points believes the government should respect taxpayer dollars. should down size. should transfer some power to the states. let them screw it up. jeffrey neeley gamed the system and we all pay for it put them on trial. >> top story tonight. another view, joining us from washington marge i didn't democratic strategist and kirsten powers fox news analyst. all right. powers. what say you? where am i going wrong? >> you are absolutely right on the part how terrible this is and this was a terrible waste of money. it's not how our taxpayer money should be spent. this is not the norm. i worked in clinton administration, i worked in the white house, we planned lots of trips and went on a trips. i mean sometimes to nice locals because that's where a lot of these sum mits were

held but we were very very careful with money. i don't think it's fair to take this and say this is the way the government runs. >> bill: look. this is the whole agency, kirsten. general services administration. the agency that overseas all the federal property. it's not one or two guys it's not just jeffrey. it's the whole agency. you can't defend it. and you can't, if you are the president of the united states. >> i'm not defending it? >> you just did. whoa, not everybody in the government. it's the whole agency. >> that's one agency. >> bill: it's a big one. it's a big one. so i don't want the president saying hey bill, okay. i want a little bit more. until he cleans up this and solyndra and the secret service problems and everything else. when he cleans t up, the educational system, then i will start to say okay. now you are on the right track here is some more money, go. not until.

kirsten? >> go ahead. >> bill: kirsten, it's you. i'm pouring this right on your head? >> you defended the federal government and i'm shredding it. >> no. i defending the federal government and saying that everybody does not behave this way. but if you are so concerned about paying taxes, what was this about $800,000 which is a lot of money and a lot of waste. what about the iraq war which is going to be about a trillion dollars. >> bad behavior pointing to other bad behavior. i'm not a big iraq war fan. >> you would stop paying taxes because we wasted a trillion dollars. >> what about the war of 1812, kirsten? what about the spanish american war? >> i don't think you were paying taxes then. >> no. you don't have an answer. it's absolutely wrong for a democratic party continue to ask for more money when this is time and time again. all right. ms. o'mara, you say? >> yeah. there are a few things. first of all, this particular scandal is indefensible and i don't think anyone is

defending him. kirsten is not defending him. democrats in congress as well as republicans are coming together to investigate what happened which i think is appropriate. this particular agency and conference had problems with increased costs in the bush administration as well as now. it's important, i think, to look at the bigger picture and what president obama has done to reduce spending on government travel, i.t., real estate, printing, you name it training, conferences. >> bill: wait a minute. i don't get this ms. omer row. bottom bill he is the biggest spending president by far. no one even close. is he cutting and i should be impressed. here is more money because you are a cutter? he spent more money than any other president by far. look, both of you guys are representing the democratic party. here is my beef. you continue the democratic party to ask me to give you more of my hard-earned dollars and then when all of this stuff goes crazy, $16 trillion

debt. solyndra, gsa, you say oh, it's not everybody. like i should be comforted by that. >> well, speaking of that. >> bill, that is actually not what i was saying. i think it's incredible that now it's the democrats taking your money? >> bill: that's right. the democrats want more of my money and the republicans don't? >> it's the u.s. government and you are paying for a lot of things that george bush and the republics ran up. >> bill: george bush? >> it is not just something that obama. >> bill: let's just stay in the here and now, kirsten. who is asking for higher taxes? who? >> actually, i'm sorry, obama. >> last time i checked we have an out-of-control deficit that we need to pay down. >> bill: he is not paying it down, kirsten. >> we are not going to do it without raising taxes, bill. it's not going to happen. >> bill: he is not paying it down. if he were paying it down i would say take some more of my money. he is not paying it down. is he giving it to jeff so jeff can be in the hot tub. that's who he is giving it to.

>> wait a minute, ms. omero, wait a minute, jeff got my money -- jeff got my money. he was in the hot tub drinking champagne and rumors wayne newton was there. we don't know. >> this isn't about jeff. >> going further. going forward, where are our priorities as a country. how are they expressed in the budget, our tax policies and in our spending. president obama one of the first things did he was to cut taxes for 95% of americans. and right now he wants to have a more balanced approach. that means cutting spending and increasing revenue. its republicans who have dug in their heels. and most americans according to polling. more americans think they are paying their fair share of taxes than not. >> all right. ladies. we appreciate the debate. very lively. thanks on the run down dick morris analyzing how undecided voters are seeing the race between president obama and mitt romney. grizzly pictures of u.s. troops in afghanistan posing

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>> in the impact egg impact segment tonight, the purveyor of dick morris joins us now from florida. what's the headline? >> the head library is that

the president of the united states, when he runs for re-election, always, except for one instance which was bush in 2004, loses all of the undecided vote. and, in fact, usually, for unperforms what he is polling at. >> 1964 lyndon johnson was running against barry goldwater. last poll has johnson 2 or 3% of the vote with 2 or 3 undecided. all of the 2 to 3 bent to goldwater and johnson only got 61. of the last 8 presidents that have sought re-election. seven have lost the undecided votes. >> seven. the only one gained undecided vote was bush in 2004. and, six of these -- the 8 presidents not only lost the undecided vote. the final vote turned out to be less than the final poll gave them. >> the polls this week have it as a dead heat between

mr. obama and mr. romney. and there is undecided component in that polling. and you say that the undecides this year are probably going to go as they have traditionally. for the challenger not the incumbent. that's what you are asking, correct? >> i'm saying two things. >> that 89% of the goes to the challenger. i'm also saying that when obama polls at 45 and you say it's a 45-45 race. he is not going to get 45. is he going to get 43 or 44. this is not going to be a 10 point blow out it will be 12 or 14 point blow out. >> bill: i think it's going to be different this year. i will tell you why. people have a lot of questions about mitt romney. i think he is the most undefined challenger that i have seen in lie lifetime. we knew who george w. bush

was. we knew who ronald reagan was. we knew who bill clinton was. we don't really know who mitt romney is. there is that uncertainty, not only from the democrats and from people who are -- might be favorable toward barack obama but also from conservatives about really who this guy is and how good a president he might be. >> bill, even when the insurgent was discredited, tarred, feathered, and crucified, like barry goldwater in 64, like george mcgovern in 72, like jimmy carter in 1980, i'm sorry, 19. >> bill: '76. >> 1976, even when the challenger was -- i mean discredited, stay with mondale, mcgovern, and goldwater, even in those cases, he got the undecided vote. >> bill: okay. i'm not going to argue with the analysis. >> the undecideds still went to the challenger. >> bill: absolutely. the heavy odds are that if you

aren't sold on president obama at this juncture you are probably not going to be sold on him. he is not going to have anything new. there are no new rabbits coming out of that hat. i have got to ask you did you just hear the debate between the two democrats and me. >> yeah, i did. i think they forgot that when obama took office we were spending $3 trillion now we're spending $3.8 trillion. >> they didn't forget it but the party has to coalesce around a message that's what you get. that's what we got tonight. the democratic message is that president obama is a responsible cost cutter. and i'm just standing here going i know that's what you are going to put out there. that's what you will see in the tv ads. i'm responsible i want to get this down. you are looking at the stats. and the reason we use this gsa thing is because there is no more vivid example of government waste than this. you can't get a better one than this. this isn't just one guy. it's a whole agency. the whole agency.

>> it's even worse than what you are saying because what the gsa does. it's the entity that purchases for the government. so, if this is their definition of cost consciousness. they buy stuff, they charge rent, they run the real estate. they hire the cleaning personnel. and if that's their idea of cost containment, good god. i want to say one other thing, bill, that your viewers would be interested in. you heard all this stuff about the general gear gap how romney is losing women and all of that. the fact is if you go back to the final election returns, starting in 1996, in every election there was more of a gender gap than there is right now in the polls. >> bill: was it always towards the democratic, the favorability. >> always towards the democrats. clinton had a 15 point edge. gore had a 15 point edge. kerry had a 13-point edge. obama won with 12 points more women and now the polling shows a 12 point gender gap.

it's not up. it's down. >> bill: interesting. so check out the campaign on dick morris.com. and directly ahead. the "l.a. times" publishes photos of american troops posing with dead afghan insurgents. they are grizzly. and the defense secretary asked the paper not to print them. laura ingraham with this explosive story moments away. ♪ ♪ lord, you got no reason ♪ you got no right ♪ ♪ i find myself at the wrong place ♪ [ male announcer ] the ram 1500 express. ♪ it says a lot about you. ♪ in a deep, hemi-rumble sort of way. guts. glory. ram.

>> bill: in the week in review from the ingraham segment tonight. the "l.a. times" has published two photos that apparently show u.s. troops posing with the dismembered bodies of dead insurgents in afghanistan. picture also be used to whip up hatred against america and nato. >> we had urged the "l.a. times" not to run those photos and the reason for that is

those kinds of photos are used by the enemy to incite violence. and lives have been lost as a result of the publication of similar photos in the past. so we regret that they were published. >> bill: now the editor of the "l.a. times" says the paper published the photos to alert leadership that american discipline may be breaking down in afghanistan. joining us from washington radio talk show star and fox news analyst laura ingraham. what do you think of this. >> long gone are the days when the u.s. government could expect the american media to wave the flag and rally behind the troops especially during a long military engagement that's very unpopular today, right? the media there just not going to be covering for misconduct or covering for the military inintervention. they are going to do what they have to disoo. >> what would you do if you were the editor of the times.

>> i wouldn't publish them. >> bill: you would not. >> know would not. they describe them in great detail including photos they didn't post. you can describe them and i think in good conscience say this is what happened without giving the photographic evidence of it it i guess people are going to say these photos would come out anyway. they would come out. >> let me give you a little background. these photos were taken by u.s. military person purportedly. the "times" a whole bunch of them published, too. the allegation isn't that the u.s. service people dismembered the bodies or did anything like that. they found the taliban suspects dead and gloated. now, the if i were the editor i would have done what you did. i would not have published the photographs. i would have described the incident and said this is what is going on. you can make an argument. a journalist can make an argument that look, you got the guy who just killed 18 -- the military sergeant who killed 18 afghan civilians.

you got 17 civilians. you got the koran burning at bag gram. you got the marine unit that was urinating on the dead bodies of the taliban. all right? you got a whole bunch of this stuff. and it looks likes a what happened in vietnam, the discipline is breaking down in the theater. so it's a wider story that americans need to know about. >> well, do an investigation of the breakdown in leadership or maybe an investigation into how superiors are not properly instructing soldiers, bill, this is the 82nd air airborne of the battle of the bulge. 82nd airborne in 1945 was america's honor guard by general patton for what they did. >> proud tradition of this army branch and incredibly 82nd airborne.

so you have 10 year engagement in afghanistan. and no -- still no end in sight. seemingly for these men and women who have been on multiple tours. it doesn't excuse. this but the idea that we're going to, you know, hang soldiers out to dry because they pose for a few pictures with these dismembered corpses. it's not helpful. it's not right. it will probably end up hurting people. but, come on. these people are being driven to the brink. and they have a public right now who want them out of there. and a lot of these afghanis don't want them there. so that's the atmosphere they operate. >> bill: let's get back to the "l.a. times." one of the problems that the "l.a. times" has brought upon itself and they have, is that the newspaper, yes, for the american audience can explain here's what happened. here is why we are telling you. this for the worldwide audience. they are going to look at that picture and go the americans cut this guy up. >> the americans did this. >> bill: the americans did this. >> hanging his dismembered legs. >> bill: in afghanistan there

is not the. >> context. the context and the facts aren't part of it. >> bill: the need factor every night to explain what it is. going to see these on the internet because that's how the information goes which the headline on the al jazeera web site american atrocities in afghanistan. the "l.a. times" knows that. they know that. >> bill, how many times has the "l.a. times" run similar photos of what the taliban and al qaeda operatives have done to innocence and soldiers and to men and women who have had their lives shattered? destroyed? the moral outrage about our troops posing with pictures of people who blew themselves up. these are individuals who were suicide bombers who blew themselves up. they were going to inspect this with the afghan security forces, okay? it's not our troops did this to someone. >> bill: right. >> the "l.a. times" does not publish photographs of what the taliban does routinely to muslim people let alone our people. so, the moral outrage and

indignation is never equalized here. and so we know what's going on. they are not going to rally for the troops. they are not going to do anything to protect the troops here. they hide behind their jils stick duty. i think they have gone beyond that line. i don't think anyone has anything to be proud of here. >> laura ingraham, everyone. plenty more as the factor moves along this evening. >> al sharpton wants to talk about the trayvon martin case. tell you what that's all about. >> secret service prostitution scandal and gsa embarrassment scandal and gsa embarrassment as well as the [ junior ] i played professional basketball for 12 years. today i own 165 wendy's restaurants. and i get my financing from ge capital. but i also get stuff that goes way beyond banking. we not only lend people money, we help them save it. [ junior ] ge engineers found ways to cut my energy use. [ cheryl ] more efficient lighting helps junior stay open later... [ junior ] and serve more customers. so you're not just getting financial capital... [ cheryl ] you're also getting human capital. not just money. knowledge. [ junior ] ge capital. they're not just bankers...

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>> bill: did you see that segment tonight, as you may know i are criticized al sharpton and others for convicting george zimmerman in the travon martin shooting. >> 45 days ago, travon martin was murdered. no arrest was made. >> we cannot allow a legal precedent to be established in

this city that tells us it is legal for a man to kill us, tell any story he wants, and walks out with the murder weapon. >> now, i feel those kind of statements are absolutely wrong. and said that to trayvon martin's mother sybrina fulton. sharpton saul -- saw that and referenced it. >> i even saw with bill o'reilly should sabrina apologize for me. i don't know what i'm supposed to ask for. all i asked for was arrest and all ski for peace. bill and i go to dinner all the time. we have a relationship. >> bill: here now to analyze juliet huddy. >> bill: not going to dinner all the time once in a while and i like to talk to sharpton. he is an interesting guy. but, he doesn't know what he has to apologize for? he just said on tv we just showed it almost like the barney frank thing. the murder of. he convicted the man, absolutely convicted him and that's my beef and you say?

>> i agree with you. the problem is as a leader and respected leader in the african-american community he has the ability to be able to reach people and impact people when he says things, he says, you know, the murder weapon never basis for self-defense. it's a hate crime. he is convicted as you said. george zimmerman without any trial. it's irresponsible. >> bill: i think sharpton knows exactly why i came down on him and what he needs to apologize for. >> you should discuss that when you go out to eat with him. >> bill: the problem is i have to buy. >> i doubt that. >> bill: i have the receipts. i always buy. illinois a better story, regular folks, win the big mega lottery. 158 million after taxes. >> after i look at it for a couple minutes, i turn to my wife who was right there with me and i says we won. and she kind of looked at me funny. and i says, no, we won.

and then she started giggling. [ laughter ] and she giggled for about four hours, i think. >> i would be shrieking for four hours. >> bill: one ticket. >> two tickets. >> one ticket was obviously the winner. merle and pat butler. lump sum a little over $1 million. >> i thought it was 158? >> yeah. compared to 300 million or 600 million. >> bill: they paid the taxes and they got 1.58. >> yes. >> i have a bone to pick with you. at the top of the show you called them elderly couple. they are 60's. >> middle age, you know. >> bill: that's it, huddy? now, who are these people? >> he is -- they are both retired. is he an former insurance guy. she was actually -- she used to work at an investment company. >> bill: just regular folks? big family? >> medium size family. regular family. they have grand kids. they are going to give the

money obviously to the grand kids because they are going to invest the money first. they are not going to have the lotto curse, bill like they all end up? >> here is my suggestion to them. >> send money to us over here. me over here. >> he will. >> bill: we won't accept that. >> i would. >> bill: i want the butlers to consider giving the money to the gsa. [ laughter ] >> bill: or at least live like that guy lived on your own money, go to vegas, get in the hot tub. this is your money not my money and huddy's money. all right? we're outraged about that. >> i'm happy for them. >> bill: we don't want to tell everybody they should gamble and all of that. this is a nice story that regular folks. >> congratulations rich people. >> bill: juliet huddy. all right everybody when we come back, it will be miller time. the d man 00 the secret service. the continuing gsa scandal and whether mitt romney should go on "saturday night live." also late today it was announced dick clark passed away at age 82. we will ask miller about that as the factor continues all as the factor continues all across the u.s.a [ tires squeal, engine revs ]

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>> bill: "the o'reilly factor." cable's news show for 12 years running. >> thanks for staying with us. i'm bill o'reilly in the miller time segment tonight. let's get to the sage of southern california who joins us now from santa barbara. you were just listening to the lottery people winning that big money, huh? >> yes. sweet story. you can see billie right away. you get the right amount of money you can stand on whatever end of the podium you want. they can't tell you what to do anymore. >> bill: but the camera is behind you. >> you can stand wherever you want. >> bill: we wish them the best. also a cautionary tale when you have a lot of money your life changes and people change toward you. you have got to be careful about that. have you ever been to colombia? >> this story wreaks of nostalgia to me. when i first moved out to l.a. to pursue my dream whifs broke i lived in the hispanic. i joined for social purposes a

bowling team. we used to set up way outside. we would bring it from the far board right to the slot. the hookers took me way back. >> old memories. i have been to that town. that's a wide open town. >> they still talk about it. hey, billy, i don't know what you get for 47 bucks down there but we're getting killed by the exchange rate. now, this is what happens, you go in and offer the girl 50. i don't know what 50 gets you, i wish i worked at current tv tonight i could ask spitzer to pull the price card out of his pocket and he could tell me. the buck is so devalued you would give them 47. listen, i don't have to tell you, traditionally and ironically, i might add, the prostitute community in colombia, loathe to dicker. loathe to dicker. >> bill: they don't want to bar dan. i know that's what you are getting at. if you are a secret service guy, number one, you shouldn't be doing that number two, you are trying to stiff the lady? you are not going to pay her? what do you think is going to happen? >> exactly. i think when you hire a

prostitute, i think you are trying to stiff the lady. [ laughter ] listen, people get confused. the presidential, when they go down with different presidents. the rules change. if you did this under clinton, you were in line for the presidential medal of freedom. >> bill: come on, miller. come on now. >> clinton's secret service name was the big ally if i'm not mistaken. >> bill: all right. let's get on to the gsa scandal. >> you can imagine if they would have went into the same bar hillary was getting loaded. in we would have been one john edwards short and having a dear john penthouse letter. >> bill: she wasn't loaded having a good time and a beer. blowing off a little steam. >> it's a wild white house these days. i just roll with it. >> bill: gsa you saw at the top with our pal jeff running around in vegas. i think he has come to a couple of your shows. you comped him. didn't you comp him for a couple of shows? >> could you never show me a picture again i might have to

procreate in this time on my planet and i don't need that mental image in there. what the hell is that? that looks like a jacqueline suzanne cover. listen, billy, the president has got to pull it together. the fish winds from the top down. right now this gsa snafu the secret service gets [bleep]. gas prices doubled. 8.2% unemployment rate. federal employees owe $1 billion in back taxes yet i can't come down on the president about it. this is the first time we can't blame a president. tighten it up over there, baby. it's getting sloppy for god's sake. you have got to take some credit. >> bill: top of the program. i said look, you can't be asking miller and o'reilly as successful as the bolder fresher tour has been to pay more in taxes when jeff is in the hot tub in vegas. you have got to clean it up th and i don't think they're going to listen to you. >> no. don't ever ask me to pose for

that shot when we are on the road with the bolder fresher tour. >> bill: don't worry, miller. what you do in the tub stays in vegas. >> remember, when you are having nude comedian always use a white wine. >> bill: you used to be on "saturday night live". [ laughter ] >> bill: are you okay, miller? are you coming back here? i have two more minutes on this segment. you used to be on "saturday night live." >> run up in two minutes. >> bill: romney might get invited to be on "saturday night live"? your advice to the governor? >> i have a good idea for a sketch, billy. what about this? we do it doubt abbey parody obama and michelle. romney plays the good looking butler. five kids play the dreamy groomsmen out in the stables and his wife plays the maid who busts her ass doing every job in the place. she is running here, running there, cleaning this, cleaning

that and michelle is the one who is making her run around and work hard in the household. that's my sketch. >> bill: okay. so i will pass that on to lauren michaels and i'm sure that he will have you back to write it. finally dick clark. miller and i grew up in american band stands we were hopping and bopping. do you know him? do you have anything to say about him? >> never met him, billy, i will say. this he seems like a class act. at the end of the day, if they are going to rate a man by his record. i would have to give dick clark 100 because you definitely could dance to this guy. he was a good cat from afar. >> bill: very successful guy. now, he had the best hair and it's funny we are looking at rudy giuliani and the hair context. see if you can get off the former mayor. clark had the best hair except for mitt romney i think it's a tie. i think that's the best hair you can have. reagan had great hair, too, right? >> people don't realize. this the last three years of

giuliani's administration he was combing hair over from dick clark's head. [ laughter ] >> bill: i am sure i picture that. [ laughter ] miller just came up with that that was -- you know, we didn't talk about this before. that was brilliant, miller. very good. >> that's what i do. that's what i do. >> bill: on the saturday night live that was great. [ laughter ] >> bill: miller, everybody, the d man would like you to consider giving mom the best mother's day gifts ever. tickets to see him and me your humble correspondent may 129. the night before mother's day. also we roll into indianapolis june 22nd. chicago june 23rd. tickets make great father's day presents. should mitt romney lighten up on illegal immigration. you remember bush the younger you remember bush the younger wanted [ barking ] appears buster's beebusy.

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>> bill: back of the book segment tonight, back in 2007, president bush tried to pass immigration reform. his vision was to allow 12 million illegal immigrants remain in the u.s.a. and work their way toward citizenship. the bill crashed and burned. this time romney needs hispanic voters. what should he do about immigration reform. joining us know from austin, texas fox news host carl rove. you saw what happened to president bush. what would you advise romney to do? >> well, first and foremost let's make certain that the issue that's at the center of the minds of latino voters is at the center of the romney campaign which is the economy, jobs, deficit, debt spending, and healthcare. he needs to realize that latino voters, hispanic voters have the same concerns that the rest of americans do. they are worried about the prosperity of the country, its the growing deficits and

worried about the affordable care act obama care is going to do to them. he needs to make his message in the latino community on these issues so they understand it's his number one issue. you are right, he needs to do something on immigration. we have a false view of that issue, i think. a lot of people in the latino community, particularly here in texas, you go down to south texas and talk to mexican americans and they are hard-nosed about border security. this doesn't -- you know, this doesn't rile them up. they believe fervently that we need to secure the borders. so romney has got that part of it covered. he needs to talk about that he does need to do something about showing compassion with regard to the people who are already here. how are we going to deal with them. also he needs to be in favor of, i think guest worker program. >> bill: 29% now among -- this is a fox news poll. february. the presidential election were held today, how would you vote in the candidates were -- this is for likely latino voters.

barack obama 70. mitt romney 14. that's a disaster. and the problem is that romney son the record during the campaign, during the primary as saying, look, we're going to take a hard line here and the people in this country illegally are going to have to go back to their home countries. they are going to have to self-deport if they want to have any consideration at all. if he changes that, the president is going to call him a flip flopper again. you know that. so what do you tell them to do on basically the people who are here right now? how does he formulate a strategy? >> well, first of all, let's make certain we know who the flip flopper is on this race on immigration. it is barack obama. i worked with him in 2005, 6, and 7 on comprehensive immigration reform. he said he was totally in favor of comprehensive reform. pledged his support to president bush, to senator kennedy the democratic sponsor and senator mccain the republic sponsor and then on the critical votes in the senate voted with the labor unions to gut comprehensive immigration reform. then in 2008 while he was running for president.

he promised to get it done in his first year. he didn't get it done in his first year. in august of 2009 as president. he went to a central american, south american summit and said "i will have a bill, introduce a bill, have co-sponsors and push it by the end of 2009." he never even sent forward a draft bill. he never had a significant meeting on it he is now getting ready to run for re-election and repeating once again i'm going to make comprehensive immigration we form at the top of my-i had all the votes in the world to do it. >> bill: certainly he has got deficits on this. you still haven't put forth anything that romney can do. he has got to do something. >> no, no. i have said, look, he can talk about border security. but he needs to do it with respect for the latino community. he needs to talk, in my opinion, about a guest worker program. >> bill: back away from the self-deportation proclamation that he made? >> he has got, in my opinion, it was a mistake to say it. but it would be a mistake to disavow it now. he needs to have a dialogue with hispanic leaders about

how do we find a way to move forward as a country to resolve this issue. >> bill: how aggressive could you tell him to be in courting hispanic voters. very aggressive? >> very aggressive. absolutely. he needs to talk about the issues that are at the forefront of their agenda. they want their community to have jobs. they are worried about the prosperity of their families. they are worried about rising costs for gasoline and food are doing to their family budgets. they are worried about whether or not their kids are going to have a prosperous future. >> what you are telling me you would stay away 12 to 20 illegals mitt romney wouldn't go anywhere near that? that's what i'm hearing from you. >> i would have a dialogue with people in the latino leadership about it look, i wouldn't put it at the center of his campaign among hispanics because it is not at the center of the agenda for hispanics. it's a concern, absolutely. the number one issue they are concerned about is jobs and the economy. the number two issue they are concerned about deficit. number three issue is the future prosperity of the country and affordable care act. obama care. >> bill: mr. rove as always.

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