>> rick: hello, everybody. welcome it brand-new hour inside america's news quarters. i'm rick folbaum. >> arthel: i'm arthel neville. topping the news, a fundraising falloff. the president's reelection campaign trying to drum up more donors. wait until you hear who is raising money for him now. >> rick: also, it's been a week since this army medic vanished without a trace and now a major development. will it help police found kelly bordeaux? >> arthel: a major airline merger could be on the way. we'll explain what it means for passengers and flight prices.

>> rick: we begin with politics on this saturday and the senator from utah, oren hatch, may be in the political fight of his life. he's facing a challenge from within his own party. he fell just short of clinching an automatic nomination at a utah gop convention just a few hours ago. now this sets up a primary in june between the senator and former state senator. casey stegall is live with more on this, casey? >> good to see you. a little confusing here. let's first of all break this down for you. utah's election system is extremely unique in that it is the only one in the country where candidates, both republican and democrats advance to the primary or general election based on what the delegates have to say at the state conventions. this weekend both the republicans and the democrats

holding their conventions in utah. incumbent senator orrin hatch would have received the outright nomination as the republican candidate if he received 60% or more of the vote at today's gop convention, meaning he could skip the primary all together. well that, did not happen. however, it was extremely close. he took 59.2% of the vote. which means the 78-year-old law maker must now square off against this man, former state senator, who is 37 years old, about the i way. ten candidates vying for the seat. hatch is currently the second longest serving u.s. senator. he was hoping to snatch up his 7th and final term today. but he maintains that even with a primary fight, it is his experience that will carry him. >> i'm a tough old bird and i've never felt more eager, more excited or more energized and

that's thanks to all of you. so i ask humbly and respectfully one last time for your trust, for your confidence, and for your vote. god bless you. god bless our country. [ cheers and applause ] >> my fellow citizens and delegates, this nation did not begin with either person. it began with we, the people. one person in one position cannot restore america no matter how powerful they think they are or hope to become. but together we the people can. >> this just in, as we told you, the democrats in utah also holding their state convention as well this weekend and this man, three-term state senator scott howell, has secured 63% of the vote there. that means there will not be a primary contest on the democrat side for the u.s. senate seat. howell will face either hatch or his opponent come november. by the way, orrin hatch did defeat howell back in 2000. so it's going to be a very

interesting race to watch. >> rick: casey stegall on the west coast for us, thanks. >> arthel: there is new fallout in the prostitution scandal rocking the secret service. a senator calling for a wider investigation and three more agents are out of a job, bringing the total to six. the entire incident going down in a colombian hotel just before the president's visit for an international summit. molly henneberg is live in washington and molly, i understand that senator chuck grassley sent a letter to the head of the secret service. tell us what it said. >> yes, senator grassley, the ranking republican on the senate judiciary committee, republican senator from iowa, wants the secret service to find out if anyone from the white house communications agency or white house advance team had any, quote, overnight guests in their hotel rooms or if theshared rooms with the implicated secret service agents at the hotel or other hotels in colombia. and in that letter, grassley asked, quote, who would be

reviewing these hotel records to insure that sensitive information was not compromised by overnight guests? the white house has said multiple times this week that so far none of its team on the ground has been caught up in this scandal. >> arthel: all right. here is the question: how much does president obama know about the investigation? >> for the first time since the scandal broke, secret service director mark sullivan briefed president obama in person. at the white house, it was in the oval office late yesterday. so president obama knows a lot more now than he did before. so far six secret service agents have been oused or resigned, including two supervisors. five more on administrative leave. on the military side, the pentagon says at least 11 military members were involved as well. six from the army, two marine, two from the navy, and one from the air force. >> arthel: molly henneberg live in washington. thanks for that update. for the latest on the scandal,

tune in to fox news sunday, tomorrow, senator joe lieberman, chairman of the committee task of overseeing the investigation, will sit down with chris wallace for an exclusive interview tomorrow starting at 2:00 p.m. eastern on the fox news channel and check your local listings for fox broadcasts. >> rick: a new revelation about president obama's reelection campaign fundraising. according to the weekly standard, jon corzine, the former governor and senator from new jersey and the former head of mg global is on the president's list of big money fund-raisers. he reportedly raised more than a half million dollars for the president. you might remember mf global sought chapter 11 bankruptcy after a $6 billion bet on european bonds. he is under investigation for misuse of customer funds. >> arthel: newly reloosed campaign documents showing growing financial problems for newt gingrich's presidential campaign. according to the federal election commission, the gingrich campaign is now

$4.3 million in debt. that's up from just over 1 1/2 million at thend of february. gingrich has just over 1.2 million on hand with campaign funds. his campaign raised $1.6 million in march. but gingrich's team only added to their debt by spending just over $2 million. >> rick: switching gears now, in a new twist in the case of a missing army medic from fort bragg, the last person to see private first class kelly bordeaux alive turning himself in to police on an unrelated charge. nicholas holbert is a convicted sex offender now in custody for failure to register when he moved residences. today marks one week since bordeaux was last seen after leaving a bar in fayetteville, north carolina. police searching a pond this week for clues. nothing turned up. >> arthel: a heavy dose of rain hitting the east coast this

weekend. showers dumping rain from west virginia all the way up through new england. up to four inches of rain is possible in some areas. localized flooding, a real threat with this system. meteorologist maria molina is live. i know in new york city citi we're bracing for the rain. when is it coming? >> late tonight. we're going to get two doses of it. so there will be a cold front that is going to be swinging through tonight and into the overnight hours and should be out of the northeast by early tomorrow morning. you're going to get your first batch of showers and areas of rain from that frontal system. but then monday morning. again, two doses of rain for us in the northeast. today that storm system that will be bringing in that flooding for tomorrow across the northeast is bringing it into

portions of florida and also bringing in a slight risk for severe weather. even though we are in a drought and really need the moisture, we don't want to get severe weather. we'll keep tracking them and keep you posted throughout the hour. you could see damaging winds, waterspouts will be possible off the coast and isolated tornadoes. some of these storms could rotate and produce some touchdowns. otherwise still a lot of drought going on across portions of georgia, south carolina, and florida. you'll get a lot of heated moisture from the system. more than three inches of rain possible across southern florida and across parts of the northeast. looking at the flooding concern with more than three, four inches possible from new york city up in through portions of southern maine. stay alert out there. >> arthel: indeed. maria, thank you very much. >> rick: evangelical christianity lost one of its most influential voices with the death of chuck colson. the prison fellowship and colson center for christian world view died at the age of 80. he passed away at a northern verge hospital with his wife and

his family at his bedside. he suffered a brain hemorrhage on march 31. james rosen now with more on a remarkable life. >> he was known as richard nixon's hatchet man, the white house special counsel willing to walk over his own grandmother to reelect the president. but after watergate and seven months in prison, charles colson would spend the next four decades as one of america's leading christian missionaries, working with the inmates in america's prisons. >> i saw the world through the eyes of people who are disadvantaged and marginalized, rejected. the outcasts of society, untouchables in memory life. >> born in boston in 1931, he attended brown university. through brown's alumni association, he would meet e. howard hunt, who years later colson would recruit to the nixon white house and go on to supervise the watergate break in. a former marine captain and hard driving lawyer on capitol hill, colson joined the nixon white house as special counsel. his chief task was to get

richard nixon reelected by identifying and courting blue collar workers, ethnics and other voters later dubbed reagan democrats. he was a driving force behind the plumbers group. >> it was the worst blow of my life to be indicted because i had been so proud as a marine officer and proud to serve my country and a flag waving patriot and i end up in a courtroom and it's the united states of america versus charles w. colson. that was like a hot knife stabbing me. >> it was in the small town of weston, massachusetts, outside of boston on the night of august august 12, 1973, that colson, after visit ago friend who recently convert to do christ had his own epiphany. >> i started to drive up the driveway and i only got 100 yards before i had to pull over and this ex-marine captain and white house hatchet man was

crying so hard, i couldn't drive any further. i spent probably a half hour in his driveway that night, maybe an hour. talking to god for the first time serious in my life. >> intense skepticism greeted news of his conversion. but he published a memoir of the nixon years and a testament to his newfound witness, born again, became a classic of its genre. >> when the book came out, barbara walters held it up on television and then jimmy carter was asked about when t when he was campaigning for president that year. >> that same year e founded prison fellowship. it started with small groups of 12 inmates, some violent, released from prison for two-week furloughs in the custody of colson and his associates. >> there was 1,000 inmates we took out the first five years, we had not a single incident. it was a huge success. >> today prison fellowship operates in more than 100

countries. in 1993, colson joined billy graham, mother theresa, and alex sander as a recipient of the templeton prize. >> i want to thank chuck colson and those at the prison fellowship program which has been hosting and organizing the angel tree program since 1982. 6 million boys and girls have received a gift on christmas and i want to thank you very much for doing that. [ applause ] >> colson underwent surgery in march to remove a blood clot on his brain. he initially showed signs of recovering, but in recent days, his condition grew dire. the subject of a biography and a children's book, colson expressed concern about the commercialization of evangelical christianity and his own image. >> i'm worried about the legacy i leave as a christian witness. i don't want my witnessing, period. >> he was 80 years old. in washington, james rosen, fox

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getting ready to move. a u.s. owned company planning to salvage it in one piece. the royal navy fire ago # 1 gun salute marking queen elizabeth ii's 86th birthday. a spokesperson says the queen is spending a quiet day at home. happy birthday. >> rick: back to politics and brand-new polls showing it could be a close race between the president and mitt romney. the latest numbers from the "wall street journal" and nbc news show the president with a of six point lead. real clear politics averages all the polls and they're showing an even tighter race. with the president edging out governor romney by about three points. matt is a former white house political director under president george w. bush. ryan is a consultant, founder of 100 proof politics.com. guys, thanks to both of you. appreciate you coming on. matt what, do polls mean at this

stage of the game? >> really very little. if i were sitting in mitt romney's shoes after this kind of tough primary, the fact that the real clear politics average shows him within three points, that's really good news. but nobody should focus too much on these polls. they got to put their plan together for the general election. they got to win these tough battle ground states. the key number is obama's gallup approval, which has been consistently under 50 throughout the year. at the stays there and the number one issue remains the economy and there is concern over obama's economic policies, mitt romney will win this race. >> rick: ryan, matt mentioned the primary, of course, mitt romney only just within the last week or so clearly becoming the presumtive republican mom knee. but up until now, he's been getting bashed by the likes of rick santorum, newt gingrich, and you can go down the whole list. so when we take a look at his favorability numbers and put them up for governor romney,

we'll show. pretty high on favorable, with you this might not be the best time to be measuring that number, don't you think, ryan? >> you know, mitt romney is bob dole all over again. he's got no personality, no charisma and no chance at winning the presidency and every major poll he's lose to go president obama hands down. the presidency is kind of like a race to see who is most popular. it's like a popularity contest for the leader of the free world and unfortunately for mitt romney, he's not a likeable guy. i agree with rick santorum. mitt romney can't beat obama and he'll never sit in the office of the united states presidency. >> rick: matt, you want to respond to that? >> yeah, i think if you're a political consultant, you would agree with me that numbers before the summer has even started mean very little in a race and if you don't think the gallup polling organization is a significant enough firm that showed romney was in the lead in the last itrace, i encourage to

you look at it again. mitt romney, although behind in most polls, isitying in a position where if he can make his economic message, which is the number one issue and what this race will be about, he can win this thing. >> rick: ryan, let me jump in here. there were polls that were put out this week by the "new york times" and cbs news that showed that when it comes to the economy, americans tend to think that mitt romney is the one with better ideas, better solutions for the economic situation. but the number one thing that jumped out at me, ryan, was the poll that asked people about the right track, wrong track. 60% of americans thought the country was on the wrong track. ryan, the president doesn't win a second term if that number doesn't change. >> the president's pretty much got a second term locked up with mitt romney as the candidate. he test marketed obamacare in massachusetts and the tea party is never going to forgive him for that. also as governor, his state ranked 47th in job creation. as a businessman, mitt romney

made his life's work, made his money closing down factories and venture capital style financial gambling. americans are tired of politicians who don't care about job also never vote for mitt romney. >> rick: let's move away from the talking points and matt, let me ask you about orrin hatch who today found out that he now has to face a challenger in a primary if he wants to keep his seat as the long-time senator from the state of utah. what's your take away there? >> this convention process in utah is very tricky for incumbents. they tripped up several incumbent, including the previous senator, bob benefit in the, from utah. sitting congressman since this happened over and over again. the fact that orrin hatch nearly got to the 60% threshold, which would have put him in a stronger position and not put him in a runoff position, is really a great testament to his organization and what they did. they had a rather novel, unique approach to targeting these convention goers. soy think some would look at

this and say orrin hatch came close to getting to the number he wanted. to get 59.2%, that's a banner day for him. >> rick: ryan, i want to switch gears and ask you about some news that the u.s. is being asked in canaled and other noneuropean countries to kick in more money to the international monetary fund to help out countries in europe. and the united states and canada saying no, that they were wealthy countries in europe. they can afford to do more than they're doing. what do you think about that? >> yeah. i think the u.s. congress is highly unlikely to approve additional funding for the international monetary fund because we've got our own economic problems. we've got an unemployment emergency and foreclosure epidemic. tons of people out of work and underemployed. we should focus on fixing those problems here at home. but i think we should look at the global financial panic as a warning sign about this radical right wing experiment of trickle down economics which proved to be a complete failure. we can't keep funneling money up to the top 1% in order to

benefit the world's wealthiest individuals. that's not the way to run a country and if we keep doing that, we'll have civil unrest world wide. if we don't want to see that in america, then we need to make the wealthiest pay their fair share, like the rest of us. >> rick: matt, the last word. you can respond to that or talk about europe, whatever you want. >> yeah. europe has tried big, big government, big government programs, centralized authority, one currency, they passed cap and trade, which was foolish. now their debt has grown so big, it's unsustainable. the problem for america is its debt is so big, we have no money to help them. they'll have to find their way out by selling industries that are currently operated by the government, sell them to private investors, including those in america. we've got to find a new way to get out of this and it's called no more spending. rip up the credit card. >> rick: gentlemen, thank you so much. good discussion. we'll have you both on again real soon. take care. >> thanks for having us. >> arthel: she's a star of film, television, music and broadway. a mother of four and now has a

memoir out called "you have no idea." i spoke with her earlier this week. who is she? vanessa williams joins us now alongside her co-author and mother, helen williams. good to see both of you. thanks for being here. >> good to see you. >> arthel: i enjoyed reading the book and this is something i liked about it because i really feel that you really are the all american girl and here is why. you were raised right. your parents pushed education as much as poise, and of course, independence and you add your little dash of fight in there and it's the perfect storm for success. >> the dash of whatever. i call it the fire in the belly is something that could not be squelched, but it made me me. and it made me the risk taker that i am, but also i wanted to

illustrate it in the book, to show that i was not just one type of person. that's why i named it "you have no idea." you have no idea what i've lived through or who i really am, at every stage of my life. and i included my mom when i pitched the book. i had been offered multiple times to do a memoir and a, every time i sat down, i said, i've got too much life to live. boy, nine, and now that i look back, i have a career that i can talk about that i'm proud of and have gone through many things. but also every time i went to recall something, i had to call my mom. what were you doing then? what was i doing then? it's a collaborative effort. she's a very opinionated lady and i said it would be great to have her perspective of what i was going through and what i was going through. i think it makes it a compelling book. >> arthel: i really enjoyed reading it. it's nice, easy read in terms of the flow. and the stories and the anecdotes and everything and we

know that you are, if i may say this with respect, you're a spit fire and that apple didn't fall far from the tree in that regard. >> not as adventuresome as she was. >> arthel: it was a different day and time. >> yes, exactly. >> arthel: we touched on vanessa 's rebellious side. do you feel that when -- what do your grandkids call you? >> gaga. >> the original lady gaga. >> arthel: lieutenantly. what do your grandkids, when you're looking at your grandkids, do you see any of vanessa in them? >> they have all very different personalities. the one thing that's a continual of vanessa is they're very artistic, all four of the kids have very strong artistic talents. i see that, you know, from their mother. and their dad. >> arthel: there you sit. >> the arts were something in my house that my parents didn't say, get a real job. what are you doing?

what are you wasting your time doing something in the arts? when i said i wanted to major in musical theater, they knew i could dance and sing and act and they they wanted me to be skilled at it. they didn't see, you know what? be an accountant. do something real. they encouraged me. >> arthel: that's what's great about the way you raised your children and you were a music teacher and a pianist extraordinary. >> i don't know about that, but i enjoyed it. i was very good. i am very good. >> arthel: i love it. listen, we really appreciate having you here and good to see you again. >> thank you. >> arthel: nice to see you as well. this is vanessa and helen williams. their book is "you have no idea." >> rick: beautiful ladies. >> arthel: so beautiful, so smart. >> rick: and you, too. >> arthel: thank you. i love her mother. she's 72 years old and she's proud of it and i love the way she raised her kids. actually their relationship reminds me a lot of my relationship with my mother. i'm very close to my mom, too. >> rick: i know you are. >> arthel: that's important to me. >> rick: very nice. want to make a quick mention.

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>> rick: thank you so much for spending part of your saturday with us. george zimmerman's defense team says they hope he'll be released on bail from a jail in florida next week. he is accused in the shooting death of teen-ager trayvon martin. the u.n. security council unanimously approving a resolution to send 300 observers to syria. the council also demanding an immediate end to the violence there. and yemen claiming a new victory against al-qaeda. officials say they've liberated parts of the country from militants. the terror group reportedly took over a major city last year. >> arthel: u.s. airways taking a big step toward merging with bankrupt american airlines. unions representing american's pilots, flight attendants and mechanics all agreeing to plan to create the nation's largest airline, but it's not a done deal yet.

what you what could a mega merger and what could it took like for the ticket prices? now our guest from san diego. kyle, good to see you. >> arthel, good to see you. >> arthel: first of all, why is it that american airlines is struggling? is it unions? is it big executive salaries? is it mismanagement of funds? what's the deal? >> it's all the above, arthel. it doesn't help when you get rising oil prices to throw it in the mix. i think what's happening now is we're having healthy conversation, we're having a healthy narrative by discussing consolidation, price decreases, and trying to cut costs to make it ultimately inexpensive or reasonably inexpensive for us to fly across country or fly across the world. so the conversation is healthy, but you got to be careful 'cause you have continental with united now. you have american airlines talking with u.s. air. you had dell a at that with

northwest -- >> arthel: i know what you're saying. you got four major airlines. a few years ago you had eight. >> correct. so if you get too small, then they can quote their price to the consumer. so you want to have healthy competition and have enough airlines out there where they're having price battles to keep the costs down. it's hard to do that with rising oil prices. >> arthel: i hear your point about the rising oil prices. folks at home are sitting there saying, oil shmoil, you need to manage your budgets better and look at execsive salaries and i'm sure there is union stuff muddying the waters there. so here is the deal. people want to know, you can streamline whatever your talking about there, kyle. the bottom line is how is this going to affect us? ticket prices are already high. you can't find a good ticket. really it's hard, unless you plan four years in advance. and if you want to bring luggage, that's going to cost you, too. really, what is this going to mean for folks trying to go see folks, family this summer?

>> arthel, i've said this historically on the other parts of fox news is that i think you're going to see a loft people staying close to home. they'll be driving versus flying 'cause i don't see the prices coming down any time soon as a result of oil prices but i do believe it is healthy to have a discussion about how to cut expenses. executive compensation. whenever i hear unions involved, i got a little nervous because you got 5 -- i think they're representing about 55,000 employees in this merger and so we just need to take precedent on profitability and i think the pressure is on these airlines to streamline and consolidate. but again, we don't want one airline or two airlines standing because then they're going to be able to supply prices that we might not be able to afford. >> arthel: the boss at american says give us a. so we can do this on our own. he doesn't seem to want the merger. you mentioned unions. america west and u.s. airways,

they merged in 2005. that was seven years ago. but guess what? even now, kyle, the pilots and flight attendants are still working on the premerger contracts because they can't figure this thing out. >> this is where the red tape comes in. you got to cut out any union involvement and you really got to streamline and work on the income statement. but again, these are healthy conversations, okay? unfortunately we have rising oil prices. so it muddies the water a little bit. but we've seen this in the banking industry. we saw major banking mergers take place over the course of the last ten years. hopefully we'll see some more healthy banks and some more healthy airlines post these talks. i'm not saying the merger is mandatory. i'm saying that the narrative is important and we have to see how it makes out. >> arthel: i hear what you're telling me, kyle. let's hope it means better prices for the consumers. kyle harrington, always good to see you. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> arthel: by the way, if this u.s. airways and american

airlines merger happens, this would be just the latest merger reshaping the airline industry over the past few decades. in 1985, united bought pan am, from the struggling airline for $750 million. but by 1991, ban am declared bankruptcy. and ceased all operations. 2000, united bought u.s. airways less than a year later, american merged with twa. and more recently, kyle mentioned this, in 2008, delta and northwest merged and you remember this one. in 2010, the biggy, continental and united came together in the latest meg do merger. >> rick: when we come back, new calls for a wider investigation into the prostitution scandal rock the secret service. all of this in the middle of a close election year. how will this scandal play out politically? we'll talk with someone who has been on the front lines of a presidential race. fox news contributor susan joins us when we come right back.

>> rick: the prostitution scandal. six agents stepping down after allegations of misconduct. the entire thing happening before the president's recent visit to colombia. now the congress is preparing a wider investigation. how should the white house deal with the new fallout? susan estridge is a professor of law and political science at the university of southern california. it's always good to see you. thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> rick: this is not what the president or the white house needs at a time he's trying to convince people to give him another four years on the job, right? >> you know it's absurd. the only good news for the president is that whatever you might think about him, how you connect him to these

escort/prostitutes at these brothels and strip tease joints in colombia, i mean, it's an absolute disgrace, obviously. it reflects very badly on the many coupleious and brave and hard working men and women of the secret service. but there is just no excuse for it. it's actually dangerous to the president himself. >> rick: well, that's the argument that's been made by a lot of people and i guess that's part of the reason why congress is going to have an investigation. let's talk about the response and the way the white house has dealt with it up to now, the way the president dealt with it and those initial comments he made. i don't think he said anything since what he said in colombia which is that he would be very angry if it turns out to be true. what do they do going forward? >> well, first of all, the director has got to -- i think he's trying, mark sullivan, to make clear that they're going to leave no stone unturned. and this is going to be a broad reaching investigation. whatever congress wants to do, the agency itself has to do

more. the real question, i think, is whether this is sort of isolated incident of some rogue agents who are off on their own, or whether there is a -- what we call a culture problem, whether there is a culture within the secret service that tolerates this kind of conduct and were it not for the -- not laughing 'cause it's not funny, but the fight about how much she was worth, was it $30, $600, $250, i mean, is that really the only thing that caused this to come to light? is this a big problem throughout the secret service? because if it is, then i think the president will have more egg on his face. >> rick: well, regardless of how much egg the president ends of having on his face, this is certainly a distraction from his message which he would like to be getting out there. every minute that we, that you and i spend talk being the secret service, the prostitution while the president is in the oval office, it time that we are not debating the president's

jobs plan, for example, or anything of substance really in terms of the president trying to put forward a message that is going to be a winning one for him. >> sure. and the truth is, the buck always stops there. so if you're the president, you want everything to be working well within the government. now, so far at least, republicans have stood by mark sullivan, the director. they've said we're going to proceed in a bipartisan way here. mr. romney hasn't attempted to somehow tie this directly to the president. but the longer it goes and the messier it gets, the worse it is. i should add that the economic numbers were a little uncertain this week, so maybe it's better from the president's point of view. >> rick: a welcome distraction. >> discussing prostitutes and call girls than discussing when our friends are going to get jobs. >> rick: the number of people who are applying or unemployment benefits. let me ask you about about the secret service. i'm sure you've been around these guys over the years.

by all accounts, most of them, the vast majority of them are very impresssive bunch. is that agency now tainted forever, do you think, or do they recover from this? >> well, the jury is still out. that's a really good question. they'll recover from it if it's not a cultural problem. if they stand up to it, if we don't start hearing about similar incidents in other cities and other parts of the world. if we do, if they start finding other similar instances, then the agency is sadly going to be tainted. i have to tell you, my own experience, these are some of the hardest working, most courageous, most patriotic men examine women you'll ever see who literally put their lives on the line every day. >> rick: i'm sure there are to many of them who are so ticked off at their colleagues. >> wouldn't you be? >> rick: absolutely. i would. susan, thanks so much. always good to see you. you can read susan's syndicated column, the newspapers all over the country, every wednesday and friday. arthel, over to you. >> arthel: guess what? i want to ask you this: are you

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>> rick: spring has sprung officially. in the northeast and for homeowners, a lot of them, it means a chance to give that old abode a splash of new color. >> arthel: a fresh coat of paint is a great way to upgrade the look of any room. "consumer reports" is putting 60 paints to the test o make sure you get the right one at the right price. >> rick: bob with "consumer reports" is with us. we're getting primed for painting. everybody is getting ready. so talk to us. >> arthel: you brought familiar brands. >> those are both glidden. you got different sheens for different purposes. the one rick has is a flat. really, really lower reflectivity, nice for certain things. it makes today's hot colors pop. it's really, really nice. >> rick: reasonably priced. 19 bucks a gallon. >> really good. like all flats, you're not getting a loft stain resistance or scrub resistance. it's for low traffic areas.

>> rick: these are a couple of the swatches you brought. >> this is the other glidden. this is a glidden semi gloss. what's good about that is that's great for contrast, for trim. here is what's really hot. twenty-seven dollars a gallon, which is not a lot of money. but it's one of the few that resisted fading. you can see -- >> rick: look at the fading. >> on the left hand issues that's the glidden and no difference. three months of intense u.v. exposure, really stood up. up with of the few for really, really good well sunny rooms. >> arthel: this is finally for trim? >> it's really glossy. unless you love a lot of shine, it's really going to be something for window trim, molding, that sort of thing. >> arthel: let's go to bare. >> this is actually right behind the benjamin moore here. this is the benjamin moore aura and now the new top of our test paint and the problem with it is that it's $66 per gallon. so this is not cheap. it's a top performing paint, the best now, but 66 a gallon, this

is not cheap. what's really nice about the behr is it does virtually as well for half the money. this is 33. both go on without primer. over bare wood. what i like about both of these is tremendous coverage with one coat. this happens to be the behr. but the benjamin moore looks similar. this is one coat. look at the job it did. and red really is a tough color. it really, really hid our stripes with one coat versus this one is actually one -- >> rick: why is benjamin moore charging so much if they know people can get something for half the price? >> i'm not sure. why does viking charge so much? >> arthel: it's all about brand. they have a good brand name. >> now they can say we're best, but behr is virtually as good for half the money. >> rick: for people who are thinking about maybe adding some

color, once the color is on, it's a pretty big investment. what do you recommend for people who might want to sample or try something before they go ahead and paint the whole room? >> you can go on-line -- the bigger thing is get little sample bottles and really, really brush on some swatches. don't just go by the paint chips 'cause you're really not going to get a good sense of how it will look with a tiny chips versus samples. this is a big investment. you might as well know. you might as well know what you're getting. >> rick: bob martin from "consumer reports." always good to see you. thanks so much. >> arthel: i'm going to go home and paint. >> rick: are you ready to paint? >> arthel: i'm always. stick around. harris faulkner is coming up. we'll see you next time. oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% casback on every purche, every day! woo-hoo!!! so that ten security gators, right?

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