>> amelia? >> we have reports about the missiles from last week in north korea, it's all fake. jenna: they're ready to go! [laughter] "america live" starts right now. in. megyn: it's take your daughter to workday? i didn't get that memo. somebody get yeardley out of her crib! we have awaiting remarks from a top official at the epa in a new, embarrass, caught-on-tape moment. the video is from a 2010 conference, instead of the hot tubs and mind readers of the gsa, this talks about an epa director wants to, quote, cruisefy oil and gas companies.

the scathing response from a top republican senator who suggests the epa analogy seems accurate to him. >> according to the administrator, epa's general philosophy is to crucify and make examples of domestic energy producers so that other companies will fall in line with the epa's regulatory whims. his comments give us a rare glimpse of the obama administration's true agenda. megyn: white house press secretary jay carney will almost certainly face questions about

this during today's briefing. we will bring you that as we have it, but in the meantime, for some background, eric bolling joins me live, co-host of "the five" right here on fnc. eric, senator inhofe is from one of the states that that guy oversees, he made these comments two years ago. now he's come out and apologized for those remarks in the wake of this criticism, but inhofe is saying that's not good -- it's not like you misspoke, you were telling people what your philosophy was and your behavior from that point forward backs up what you said. >> sure, sure. and, megyn, you're 100% spot on. senator inhofe is spot on as well. what the administrator did is he uttered the words that everyone was suspecting of the epa, that they're a regulation board, we get that, but they're also really in charge of enforcements. enforcements means fines and penalties. the most dispushing part of that -- disturbing part of that

whole commentary wasn't the use of the word "crucify," it's that later on in that little rant he says we need to make examples out of them. do you really need to make examples out of oil companies and drillers and frakers trying to create jobs and trying to continue the cheap supply of fuels that america has built the most robust economy in the world with? it's just, it's unbelievable what's going on. megyn: but he is saying you need to make examples out of the lawbreakers. the whole context of the remarks is i don't have that many bodies working for me, but i have a lot of responsibilities, so how do you make sure -- [inaudible conversations] you go out, you find a couple lawbreakers and make examples out of them so the others see what's happened to the first few. >> megyn, the epa has 75,000 employees, they have the bodies. my problem is this. here's a great example. the epa is proposing a limit on

coal-fired plant emissions, in other words, if you have a coal-fired plant that creates electricity, it can't -- they want it not to exceed 1,000 pounds of co2 per megawatt hour. so here's the issue. as a coal-fired plant right now on average they produce about 1786 poundsover co2 per megawatt hour, natural gas only 580. so, clearly, the epa is trying to push people to natural gas-fired electricity. there's a problem here though. as senator inhofe pointed out this morning on "fox & friends," that would be well and fine if they were open to fracking which produces the natural gas. the epa themselves have numerous actions against frakers. they're calling into -- megyn: you're starting to lose me. you're basically saying they've set it up such that they'll crack down on those who are in the oil and gas industry and that they want natural gas, that's what they want? they're sort of rigging the system? >> they're telling us -- go ahead. megyn: i'm trying to short form

it for the viewers because there's too many numbers and departments. >> there's really not. they're saying don't use coal anymore to produce electricity, which is about 45% of our electricity, use a cleaner-burning fuel like natural gas. it's also abundant in america, so they push the new electricity plants toward natural gas. the problem is to get fracking permits in america, it's becoming more and more difficult to get the epa to agree that fracking is safe and that fracking doesn't harm the drinking water, the water table which it doesn't, and there have been no cases where it does. so out of one side of their mouth they're saying we're for natural gas, and out of the other side they're saying we're not so much for natural gas. megyn: they definitely seem to be dialing back on this man's comments, but the senator says his apology's not good enough, and he wants an investigation into this policy, and he hopes they will comply. eric bolling, we will see you tonight in four short hours on "the five." for his part, the administrator has issued this apology saying,

quote: megyn: we will wring you any news from the white house press briefing as it happens, and you can get the latest details and see the remarks in the full on our web site, foxnews.com. we are also going to be having a fair and balanced debate on the political fallout from this guy's remarks, remember secretary chu saying his goal wasn't necessarily to reduce gas prices, we've had the solyndra debacle. where does all of this leave the president as chris stirewalt suggested this is causing a considerable amount of political pain for the white house, and we'll discuss whether that's true next hour. well, another issue that may come up for the white house today is these new reports that the secret service is

investigating more allegations of agent misconduct. the agency reportedly looking into claims that agents were involved with prostitutes during a trip to el salvador last year. this comes amid an ongoing investigation of what happened in colombia. nine agents have resigned or been force bed out so far for allegedly partying with prostitutes just before president obama arrived in colombia for a summit. new details today in the trayvon martin case that may challenge some of the assumptions people have been making about the accused shooter, george zimmerman. in an exhaustive profile, a picture is emerging now of a concerned citizen trying to help fix his community rather than the better-known media image of a reckless, even perhaps racist vigilante. trace gallagher has the latest from our west coast newsroom. >> reporter: megyn, this is a reuters investigation that talks about the fact that george zimmerman was raised devout

catholic, altar boy for ten years and he started an insurance company with a black friend of his that failed. it also goes into his arrest for assaulting a police officer and domestic violence accusations. but it focuses more on his involvement in the retreat at twin lakes, that's the housing community where he lived where trayvon martin was shot. 280 townhomes, 50% white, 20% black, 20% hispanic. police reports say the complex had a rash of burglaries and robberies. at least seven police reports that we found ourselves. the witnesses say the suspects were young black males, including a woman who was home with the a young son when police say two black males entered her home. she hid upstairs, she called police. when police arrived, the suspects fled. they were about to take the television with them. after another burglary, police caught a black teenager in possession of a stolen laptop. the residents asked the association to begin a

neighborhood watch program, george zimmerman was the captain of that watch program. there were several more break-ins after that. zimmerman called the dispatch 46 times. we've got seven of those calls to dispatch, here's portions of some of them. listen. >> reporter: you look at the dates on top of there, august 1st to february 25th, the last call he made was the night before the trayvon martin

shooting. we should also note the reuters investigation notices that george zimmerman actually got a gun at the request of an animal patrol officer because zimmerman said that some pit bulls were harassing he and his wife, and he said he wanted to get pepper spray, and the animal control officer said, no, you need a gun because pepper spray will not work if a pit bull comes after you which is why he initially got the gun in the first place. megyn? megyn: wow. trace, thank you. >> reporter: okay. megyn: well, an ugly new warning sign for the economy. today our third bad unemployment report in a row, and just 24 hours after fed chairman ben bernanke said things were looking better. we'll have a closer look at the truth in three minutes. plus, worrisome signs in the search for a missing 6-year-old girl in arizona. police may have hit a wall in this case with no clues, no motive, and they say no suspect suspects. this as isabelle's parents are now speaking out. we'll have the latest in this

case. and the chill factor. in a head to head matchup, some say president obama wins the cool contest hands down, but mitt romney may be winning the competent contest, at least when it comes to the economy. we'll put that theory up for debate coming up. >> americans are tired of being tired. and many of those who are fortunate enough to have a job are working harder for less. >> now is not the time to make school more expensive for our ewing people. for our young people. [cheers and applause] ♪ oh, yeah. [laughter]

megyn: welcome back, folks. we have a new fox news poll today showing that most americans want the attorney general, eric holder, to be held accountable for the fast and furious operation. the doj gun-running scandal that went bad. it was run out of the phoenix

atf office. 34% of those polled feel the attorney general should be fired over that operation which allowed more than a thousand guns to be smuggled into mexico, winding up in the hands of some very bad people and killing several people. 32% say mr. holder should be reprimanded but allowed to keep his job. 12% say no action should be taken, 22% remain unsure. and now to the economy and new signs that the hiring of new workers is slowing down. the government says unemployment claims are stuck near a three-month high right now, some 388,000 americans still seeking jobless benefits last week, or newly seeking jobless benefits last week. economists saying weekly claims need to fall consistently below 375,000 to take a big bite out of the unemployment numbers. matt mccall is the president of penn financial group and is here with perspective. so what's happening here, what's the trend? >> well, the trend, obviously, is going in the wrong direction.

megyn: more people seeking unemployment benefits. >> let's take a look at the monthly numbers. back in january we had 284,000 people, basically, jobs created. february, 227,000 jobs created, march, 120,000 jobs created. we're going in the absolutely wrong direction. we're supposed to be creating more jobs, the economy's supposed to be getting better, we're doing the exact opposite. in the last three weeks we heard maybe it was too warm in the early months -- megyn: yeah, bernanke suggested that. >> if we take the last four weeks, that number has skyrocketed 381,000 -- megyn: the number of people filing -- >> each week on average over the last four weeks. that number's the highest weave seen all of this calendar year. so every number that i'm looking at is moving in the wrong direction, where at the same time ben bernanke has somewhat of this rosy outlook that he talked about yesterday. megyn: what is behind that? we'll talk about bernanke in a

minute, but what is behind the jobless claims going up and the job situation going down in the last few months? >> maybe the stimulus is beginning to slow down a bit. megyn: wasn't the stimulus meant to create a situation in which the jobs got created? you know, it's sort of an artificial stimulant that is supposed to lead to actual job creation? >> well, the theory is in government which obama's administration believes that government can create long-term, sustainable johns. history -- jobs. government has never been in the business of creating long-term, sustainable jobs. the only people who can do that really is small businesses. going back to 1980, 60% of all jobs that have been created in this country by small business. megyn: wow. >> now we take a look, why isn't that happening -- megyn: and even now. >> we're not seeing small business create jobs because it's not a friendly environment for entrepreneurs. megyn: how so? what is it that's targeting small business owners? >> number one i would say is taxes. we don't know what's going to

happen when, possibly, the bush tax cuts come up in november, december, end of the year if they're going to be extended or not extend, but i think number one, megyn, it's confidence. you do not know what tomorrow holds with our administration as far as taxes is concerned. as a small business owner it's very difficult to lay money out, future money on hiring new employees when you have no idea of the unknowns that are out there right now. a lot of it has to, unfortunately, fall back on the government not giving small business owners the confidence to go out there and hire right now. megyn: there's, you know, the looming threat of what's going to happen with obamacare as well, because a lot of employers, you know, if you go above the threshold of 50 employees, then you've got to provide the health insurance to them unless the supreme court does something to the entire law in june, and employers don't know whether thai going to be force -- they're going to be forced to do that or not? >> and, again, why hire before the supreme court comes with that decision? you do not know how much that employee will ultimately cost

you. megyn: i thought that we were postrecession, you know, we'd been told for a while we were on a roll, and we saw the unemployment rate go down to 8.2, and it looked like things were going in the right direction. ben bernanke had some rosy words, we were feeling kind of warm and fuzzy. what's happening? was it artificial? why did the number go down so much? >> that's the best word you could put on it right there, artificial. i think this economy and jobs number were propped up to look very good. unfortunately, they're not sustain bl right now. take a look at the gdp, we've hit a peak. same thing with employment. we've slowly gotten better, we then hit a peak. what bernanke and the fed has done through quantitative easing one and two, they created an artificial boom in this economy which has led to the -- megyn: they printed more money and got more money out of the system, and that was a temporary sugar for us -- >> what happens if we take that sugar away? it doesn't feel very good, does it? the only thing we can see

heading into the election is bernanke still has some sugar left in his little jar. he could pour some more sugar on this -- megyn: cue the def leppard! jay? [laughter] >> we could prop this economy up, give it a sugar high, make obama look very good. so we'll see what bernanke and the fed decide to do. megyn: matt mccall, thank you, sir. jay produces our 2:00 hour, debbie does our 1-rbgs, but jay is our little deejay, he's really immerse inside the '80s, not to mention broadway. coming up, john edwards facing allegations of his own. the defense painting andrew young as an opportunistic, money-grubbing liar. they said edwards left the courtroom looking rather happy yesterday. what does this mean for the case against him? we'll talk about it coming up. plus, a terrified 4-year-old separated from his parents patted down by tsa agents. why the agency says fs it was just following procedure. and a north korean show of

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megyn: we -- no. different story. now to north korea where we invest a huge amount of state department time and international effort trying to deal with the perceived threat, but when the analysts looked closer at a recent military parade, they found north korea's display of might is all show. the much-talked-about missiles were fakes and not even convincing ones. trace gallagher has more on this

one. >> reporter: those were actually shown at the end of that lavish parade, you know, celebrating the hundredth anniversary of the founding of the dynasty there, well, the missiles are called kn o 8s. they were loaded onto those missail launchers -- missile launchers. the missiles themselves seemed to be designed for long-range attacks, and when you have a country that ha has nuclear weapons like north korea, that is a huge international concern. but the deal is, experts say, the missiles are not only fake, they're clumsy fakes, even sloppy fakes. they go on to say that because these things didn't even fit the launchers they were on, one, each of the missiles appeared different even though they were all supposedly the same exact make, and the material on the missiles was way too thin for them actually to be intercontinental ballistic missiles. further evidence that north

korea is a very long way from having those icbms and this, of course, comes on the heels of those failed launches, one in 2006, one in 2009, one in 2012. all of those failed. the experts say it appears north korea is a long way from having a missile that can carry a nuke. but they should point out that those launchers that we told you about, the biggest ever, those do not appear to be north korean, they appear to be, experts say, made by the chinese which raises an entirely different set of questions that right now the state department is investigating, megyn. megyn: hmm. interesting. trace, thank you. >> reporter: okay. megyn: new evidence suggests the united nations is complaining about kids working on american farms. at the same time, the labor department is cracking down on the same thing. coincidence? we investigate. plus, it's cool versus competent. president obama hitting the late night tv circuit while mitt romney makes an impassioned

speech on the struggles facing everyday americans. well, president obama made a speech earlier in the day as well. but now the rnc has come out with an ad painting its own picture. we'll have a fair and balanced debate on the two approaches moments away. >> obama! obama! obama! >> oh, yeah. ♪ [laughter] ♪

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megyn: welcome back, folks, it's 1:30 here in the east, and we are tracking a couple of developing stories for you now including vice president joe biden defending president obama's foreign policy record and accusing the presumed challenger, mitt romney, of having a foreign policy vision that is stuck in the cold war era. it was a fiery speech, you will see some of those remarks later today. and port dpeez police have announced the case of madeleine mccann will stay closed due to lack of evidence. the british girl disappeared back in 2003 during a family vacation -- 2007, i should say. investigators said she may still be alive releasing this age progression sketch of her, but they did not reveal what evidence they had. and a military judge considering dismissing some of the charges in the wikileaks case, including aiding the enemy. private first class bradley manning could still face more than 100 years in prison if he is convicted of leaking critical

documents to the wikileaks site. well, the republican national committee in its first pro-romney ad suggesting this presidential race is a contest between cool and competent. taking the opportunity to blast president obama for his appearance on jimmy fallon tuesday night. here's some of that piece. >> americans are tired of being tired. and many of those who are fortunate enough to have a job are working harder for less. >> now is not the time to make school more expensive for our young people. [cheers and applause] >> oh, yeah. [laughter] [applause] you should listen to the president. [laughter] or as i like to call him, the

peezie. megyn: joining me now, leslie marshall and michael graham who is a radio talk show host and a columnist for the boston herald. all right, panel, they seem to be mocking the president for going on jimmy fallon and suggesting that mitt romney is the more presidential, may not be as cool, but is more competent. is the ad effective, michael? >> oh, come on. mocking the president, who could possibly mock the preevie? i think washington, lincoln, roosevelt, reagan, the preezie, don't you? i mean, that's what we need here. as those college kids who are watching, half of whom can't find jobs, 85% moving back to their homes, oh, and they get to keep paying and medicare that they'll never get, they love the president, or as i'd like to call him, the ayatollah of digging us in a hole-a.

megyn: we love rhyming. >> i do my best. megyn: is it real? they were blasting him on jimmy fallon doing this song about student loans and mitt romney making a serious speech -- president obama gives a speech every day. but then he went on late night and had some laughs about it too. >> a ha, absolutely no question. by the way, those people graduating from college have more job opportunities this summer. you can check that out, a little google on woogle. okay. [laughter] so here's the thing, you know, when bill clinton years ago went on arsenio hall and he's playing his sax so phone, the right attacked him then, did very well with the youth. barack obama did well with the youth in 2008, he has in the polls more youth supporting him, but he needs more of those youth, and he needs them to come out in november and vote. so i think it's okay to be cool and competent as a leader, and i think it makes him more likable. and right now the two things

it's going to come down to in november is who america likes and trusts. megyn: well, you know, the president's likable. before i let you -- "the washington post" poses it this way. he suggests at first glance it would seem to favor the president, after all, who would you like to vote for, the coolest guy in school, or alex p. keaton? think about it, are we getting that president obama is the john travolta character in grease? he's the coolest guy in school, he's the prom king versus, right? is in the choice? versus mitt romney and alex p. keaton who was definitely not the coolest guy in school who yet you somehow might trust to fix your problems. >> as one of those people who suffers with the burden of great coolness, as i do -- [laughter] i put the leisure in leisure suit, i want you to know that. >> i'd like a picture of that. [laughter] >> republicans have always

suffered from painful lack of coolness. i mean, mitt romney's the kind of guy who goes into an ice cream shop, sees the vanilla, and says do you have anything less edgy? [laughter] no one gives a crap about cool. this is about jobs, the economy, who's going to pay my mortgage for me. we're 15 million jobs light from where we were under george w. bush, we're tagging out about 150,000 jobs a month which is half of what we need, we've had the longest term of 8% unemployment or higher since the great depression, and we're going in the wrong way. look, i want to be cool, too, but doing bong hits will not get you a job, and that should be the message of the republican party for 2012. megyn: so much to go after many many -- in there. leslie, is it true no one gives a crap about being cool? [laughter] oh, no, no, no, you are wrong. there are three reasons people vote for people in this country, it's historically proven. one is name recognition which both candidates have.

two, it is likability and relate about. let me give you an example. when john kerry and george w. bush had three debates, the majority of americans left or right felt john kerry won. when they asked people who you going to vote for, not just republicans, but others said george w. bush. when they said why? well, they felt they could have a beer with him, they felt he was likable, approachable, relatable and, you know what? he, obviously, didn't think vanilla was too edgy. maybe john kerry did, michael. megyn: who am i? [laughter] remember? al gore? and how negatively people reacted to his constant sighing in the those debates that he had with president bush first time around when he was running for election first time around? the point is, though, michael, president do like president obama. his likability factor has been high all along, maybe it'll be even higher because he slow grooved with jimmy fallon on that show. but do people want to vote for him because they like him, or

are they going to believe that as much as they like him, there's somebody more competent to run the country? is. >> leslie's absolutely right, the majority of presidential election likability is almost unbeatable. i used to run campaigns for a living. when was the last time we had an election where the economy was in this lousy shape, where the direction of america was in the wrong direction so obviously, where gas prices are soaring through the roof while our credibility abroad is so low that the syrians have killed 10,000 people, and they just shrug at the president when he says you better cut that out. our standing is low, and this is one of those elections where people set aside who do i like. they want to go to the doctor with the lousy bedside manner if they think he can cure the problem. this year you're wrong because obama has been this bad. you want a hip, cool thing to say? obama, so far he sucks. that's the slogan for -- >> oh, that's cool. i don't hear fallon calling you,

michael. [laughter] megyn: thank you both for being here. >> thank you, megyn. >> thank you. megyn: remember that? politics are so fun to follow, aren't they? coming up, another embarrassing, caught-on-camera moment for a member of the obama administration. this time involving a top epa official who compares his approach to regulating the oil industry to the romans crucifying people. we just heard from the white house on this moments ago, we will have that for you in moments. and an emotional plea from the parents of missing 6-year-old isabelle sheless as the search for their daughter who they say was stolen out of her bed in the middle of the night appears to be winding down. the latest out of arizona, and mark fuhrman is here with an interesting take on this case. plus, for a guy whose dirty laundry is being splashed all over the world, john edwards seems unusually chipper. our legal experts examine why

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megyn: former presidential candidate john edwards back in court today, his defense team going after the prosecution's star witness on the stand yesterday. the defense grilling former top edwards' aide andrew young on the stand painting him as an opportunist and an outright liar. so is andrew young's testimony doing either side any good? jonathan serrie live outside of the courthouse in greensboro, north carolina, with an update. jonathan? >> reporter: hi, megyn. well, during this cross-examination, edwards' attorneys are grilling andrew young on apparent discrepancies in his testimony comparing what he said during the trial to things that he said earlier. trying to call his credibility into question. they're asking him mostly about minor inconsistencies in his

testimony in past statements and then following up with broad and provocative questions. in one instance, abby lowell asked young whether he had fallen in love with edwards. young responded, a lot of people in the country did. lowell asked, did you fall out of love with him? >> reporter: the defense is also trying to portray young as an opportunist who allegedly built a new house for himself using the donor money that was intended to keep edwards' pregnant mistress out of the spotlight. the judge began to question where the defense was going. abby lowell went into a long explanation of his strategy regarding this questioning until one of the prosecutors interrupted, quote, perhaps the witness shouldn't be here for this discussion. megyn, this normally-reserved courtroom erupted in laughter. back to you. megyn: jonathan, thank you.

joining me now with more on this case and how it stands up against john edwards, lis wiehl and john, a defense attorney and former prosecutor. so this is fascinating to me. now the defense gets its shot at the star witness. >> right. megyn: this is the star witness, andrew young, how are they doing so far? >> i think they're doing fine. the defense is trying to poke holes, and andrew young wrote a book, he made money off of this, and abby lowell, i know him, i've known him for 15 years, i worked with him during the impeachment of president clinton, he's a great lawyer. but he still has somebody on the stand there that is telling, i think, the truth, and i think the jury will see that. megyn: even if you don't like andrew young and you think there are inconsistencies -- there are going to be inconsistencies, cannot be -- >> he's not a choir boy. megyn: the evidence is there. the checks came from bunny melon, they went to andrew young, and rielle hunter wound up with the dough. so even if you don't believe andrew young, why was bunny

mellon funneling that money to rielle hunter? >> she really had an affinity for john edwards, and the defense maintains, these were gifts unrelated to his campaign. that's going to be the message his defense team is going to hammer throughout the rest of the five weeks this trial is supposed to take place. megyn: so they've got to get out of andrew young bunny was giving you this money, the 100-year-old donor who loved john edwards so much she would give anything to help him personally and professionally. >> it wasn't about the haircuts -- >> remember that? megyn: he got ridiculed for the $400 haircuts. megyn: she felt bad for him when she heard that and be said let me cut you a checks so you can have all the haircuts you want -- >> why would she come in now to coffer up the mistress, not to coffer up the embarrassment for elizabeth because elizabeth knew about the affair, to cover up the scandal so that he could continue the campaign. that's the fundamental issue.

megyn: what is the defense going for this you were in love with him business? they got testimony out of him from andrew young saying he, john edwards, said he loved me, too, and that he knew i knew he would never abandon me. >> steamy. megyn: are they talking romantic innuendo or a love affair between a politician and a top aide, you know, i believesome. >> i think what they're trying to do is convince the jury -- the jury's going to want to know why is andrew young doing this, why is he throwing his former boss under the bus -- megyn: why'd he claim paternity for john edwards' daughter? >> that's a huge one. and by the way, he's testifying understood immunity -- >> what does that mean? >> that means that andrew young's hands are dirty, and the only way they could get the story out of him is to agree not to prosecute him. that's not exactly true, what immunity means. what it means is -- >> he can come in -- >> guilty of something. >> no, that's not what it means. we're going to disagree on this

one. you can tell your story, it doesn't mean you could be prosecuted for anything because the only thing he could be prosecuting for is lying because john edwards asked him to lie -- megyn: but the defense is trying to convince this journey that andrew young had his heart broken by a politician he admired in whatever way they think he admired him, and he gave testimony on cross-examination on how edwards broke a final piece of bad news to him, a long-promised job at a foundation financed by bunny -- old bunny, he'd been promised a job by edwards, that bunny would employ him -- was no longer in the cards. and the theory is that's when you got upset, mr. young, and started creating stories. >> again, that would be campaign funds that would be sourced -- megyn: no, but it's motive to lie. they're saying he had sour grapes because he didn't get the job he wanted. >> it was still campaign funds. that's the critical issue here. was it -- megyn: exactly, the issue.

>> if it's all of that, even if andrew young got all the kickbacks in the world, it doesn't matter if it's campaign funds. megyn: can they, be they prove that john edwards got caught by elizabeth cheating -- >> which he did. megyn: you keep pointing that out, that the money had to be to protect the public from this information, but lots of people get caught in affairs, and they continue the affairs, and then they need a cover-up -- >> for the continuation of the affair? >> megyn: yes, can which he did. he continued the fair after elizabeth found out -- >> got better, right, the backbone got better at keeping it secret, and andrew young participate inside that for the reason so that elizabeth would not get any more hurt. >> no. [inaudible conversations] >> they're arguing in court about whether the cover-up that bunny mellon was funding was to protect elizabeth from knowing or all of us from knowing because john edwards wanted to keep his political fortunes alive. >> and she -- and also why wouldn't she just use her own money? if it's just about elizabeth,

use your own money. [inaudible conversations] megyn: just because you're rich doesn't mean you're not cheap. once cheap, always cheap. remember that, ladies. [laughter] >> bunny was a benefactor who was throwing money, why wouldn't he use somebody else's money? megyn: i gotta run, but let me ask you, why was he so happy leaving the courtroom yesterday? >> oh. megyn: it's a good day, a sunny day in more ways than one. >> well, of course, both sides are going to go out with smiles on, no one's going to go with a downward mouth. meg why wouldn't his lawyer tell him not to do that? you cheated on your wife, your wife is now dead, thanks to the cancer she had when you were cheating on her -- >> it was probably a reaction because andrew young was not a good witness for the -- >> you still don't do that. megyn: ladies, thank you,. coming up, a marine sergeant is facing discharge for criticizing president obama on facebook. what he's now saying on the posts that brought an early end to his career in the military.

and police in arizona may be out of leads in the search for 6-year-old isabelle sheless. her parents issue an emotional appeal for her return. mark fuhrman is here.

megyn: well, the participants of a 6-year-old girl who disappeared from her home are making an emotional public plea for her return. becky and sergio solis saying they will never give up in the search for their baby girl, this as a neighbor is reporting hearing some sort of commotion before the little girl vanished. trace gallagher has more. trace? >> reporter: megyn, this is the first time, by the way, the parents have spoken since isabelle disappeared almost a week ago, the father coming out pleading for anyone who has his daughter to, please, make their demands known. listen to him. >> we are looking, we are

looking for you, isa. we love you, and we miss you so much, and we will never give up. we will never give up looking if or you. >> reporter: it's also interesting because for the first time a neighbor is also speaking out saying about two hours before isabel was reported missing, she heard a commotion coming from inside or near the solis family home. now, only a wall separates her bedroom from isabel's bedroom, and she says outside she heard the voices of more than one man about 6:30 in the morning. listen to her. >> well, at 6:30 in the morning on saturday i woke up, my dogs were going crazy, their dogs were going nuts, and i remember briefly waking up and hearing male voices outside my bedroom window, but it was light outside, i didn't really think anything of it. >> reporter: she says now she wishes she had paid much closer attention. the family remembers at 8:00 they went to wake up isabel and

she was gone, that the window had been pushed in, the blinds pushed to the side, and the screen had been taken off. fbi profilers now inside the house, they've been brought in as we've been told to understand the evidence better. the thing here is, megyn, nobody has told us exactly what that evidence might be. she disappeared on saturday morning, thursday, been gone now for the better part of six days. time ticking, it's bad. megyn: exactly right. trace, thank you. >> reporter: yep. megyn: we're going to have mark fuhrman join us in our next hour on this case, and he's got some interesting insights on where this is likely to go. also coming up, we've got new polls today on president obama, governor romney and independent voters, and they show a dramatic shift in the last couple of weeks, a romney surge. up next. plus, the u.n. is apparently complaining about children working on american farms. at the very same time our labor d. cracks down on the same thing.

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megyn: a brand-new fox poll showing a sharp shift among independent voters. the headline as president obama and mitt romney running neck and neck on a national basis. we dug deeper. it appears mitt romney is gaining ground with the group of voters who could seal the deal. in the past few weeks mitt romney has seen a dramatic increase in his support among independent voters. this fox news poll shows romney up 13% against president obama with that group. that's a big change since last month when the two men were tied

with independents. joining me byron york. put that number in perspective for us. >> i think it's the result of the end of the primary campaign. the campaign was long within contentious, sometimes it was ugly. mitt romney were beating up on his opponents, is opponents were beating up on him every day. that results in voters tuning out or having a negative impression. mitt romney has claimed the title of presumptive nominee. it's clearly a one-man obama versus romney fight and a lot of those negative feelings have gone away. megyn: we are told the independents are crucial to this election as they were to the last election. if romney is up 13 points with the independents, why is he being shown neck and neck 46 and 46 with obama in the overall

poll? >> in the poll as in the electorate at this moment, there are more democrats than republicans. so the poll has a few more democrats than republicans. so when i have romney and obama with the same levels of support among their own party. still at the moment it's 46-46 in the poll nationally. megyn: we looked at issues including who do you view most favorably. barack obama comes out ahead on that. put that 42% number in perspective. >> that number is coming up for romney. i think it's the same thing. a function of the end of this campaign. the primary campaign was ugly. i think the favorability numbers show you mitt romney still has some work to do among republicans. lining side that poll and you

will find president obama has a favorable rating of 87 among democrats. 75% of republicans have a favorable view of romney. that shows that he's still got some work to do to win over the republicans i i expect the number to go up as the general election campaign continues but right now it's not there. megyn: he's fresh off a bruising fight. now we asked how interested you are in this election. the number of democrats has gone up. last time we looked at this there was an enthusiasm gap that favored the republicans. 75% of republicans are extremely or very interested. people are paying attention, byron. >> they are. i don't think there will be any enthusiasm gap on either side. there have been predictions

democrats may be denortherlyized. i don't see that happening. elections are always one guy versus another guy. we have been in the pregame. now you are to that one-on-one contest. my guess is both sides will be fired up by the fall. megyn: when you look at the independent numbers. that's today's numbers from fox use news. does the campaign care about that? how do they look at it? instead of doing the national independent number do they go state by state and look at the matchup in those states and they don't care about new york and california and states where you can predict how it will come out. >> they care about voters in that particular states. that's why we see the president go to iowa and florida and pennsylvania and ohio and all of the swing states. they look at that type of voter within the voter who could go either way. if you listen to mitt romney's

speech when he took the mantel of nominee. he said i know you did that, we all got excited but now you are disappointed, you ought to consider me. those are the voters romney will try to tarring net all of those swing states. megyn: byron, thank you. republicans are firing off new accusations over president obama's recent travel. they claim the president has been passing off campaign visit as official events, that means you pay for them them. house speaker john boehner is calling on the president to reimburse the president for those costs. the republican national committee filed a formal complaint with the government accountability office over this issue. he gave speeches in three swing states, in which he called on congress to prevent a hike in federal student loan interest rates. too give you some perspective, it costs more than $100,000 per

hour just to operate air force one. we have $breaking news on our top story from last hour. a controversy raising new questions about the obama administration's energy policy. now the white house is responding to the fallout. a top epa official caught on tape, the remarks are from 2010 but they are just surfacing now, comparing his approach to the oil and gas industry to the romans crucifying people. >> to give an analogy about my philosophy, it's probably crude and maybe not appropriate but i'll tell you what i said, the romans used to conquer the villages in the mediterranean they would go in a turkish town and they would find the first five guys and they would crucify

them and that town was easily managed the next years. megyn: one leading republican senator says the apology didn't go far enough. james inhote wants an investigation -- james inhofe. >> reporter: senator inhofe has been a long-time go of the epa. the epa official caught on tape in 2010 saying basically their enforcement philosophy, the philosophy at the epa was to go and like the romans in this official's words, like the romans conquer villages and find the first five guys and crucify them. what he's saying is after that speech the epa went after various natural gas companies in

pennsylvania, texas and which. in the estimation of the republican senator they trumped up charges against these companies, accused them of contaminating water in the natural gas fracking process. senator inhofe believes this is not an is hated indent. d it's not an isolated incidents. >> he's stopping hydraulic fracturing and saying to the public we are for natural gas. with the high price of gas and the elections coming up, it's a big issue. >> reporter: i just asked jay carney about this controversy and he insists what this official had to say does not square with anything the white house believes. he added natural gas production is up under the obama administration so they believe this philosophy that the official was talking about was never implemented. i pressed him on whether the official will be fired given the

fact back in 2008 the president said he would be about hope and change and setting a new tone here in washington. here is what jay carney had to say. >> he apologized. what he said is clearly not representative of either this president's belief in the way we should approach these matters or the way he has approached these matters from the white house or the epa. >> reporter: the white house believes this was an isolated incidents. but republicans like james inhofe pushing for an investigation. megyn: the search for a missing girl in arizona may have hit a dead end. what now? it is a day for the investigators in "kelly's court," including former detective mark fuhrman. he never thought it would go this far.

marine sergeant gary stein discharged from service after criticizing president obama on facebook. we dug up a human rights report showing that the united nations is complaining about children working on american farms. at the same time our labor department is cracking down on the very same thing. is that a coincidence? we investigate and debate right after this break. c'mon dad! i'm here to unleash my inner cowboy. instead i g heartburn. [ horse neighs ] hold up partner. prilos isn't for fast relief. try alka-seltzer.

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>> the fact that you would suggest rules that would relate as to whether a farmer's own child could work on their own farm suggests that input is needed. the consequences of the things that you put in your regulations lack common sense and in my view if the federal government can regulate the kind of

relationship between parents and their children on their own family's farm, there is almost nothing off limits in which we see the federal government intruding in a way of life. megyn: that was kansas senator jerry moran as he tries to put a stop on imposed regulations on farm work due to come into effect in the coming weeks. we are learning more about a u.n. investigation that took place some time ago about the same thing. joining us now, mark hanna. also tony selig. so the u.n. investigation i guess is old. is that the deal? they have been look into the conditions of american kids on american farms. >> i think the condition of

american kids on american farms has been well known for a long time. megyn: all of a sudden our department of labor cares a lot about it. >> i think the department of labor has cared about it for several years. this is the first time they have issued a ruling to protect these kids. megyn: those who favor stricter regulations. you can't go in the silos and you can't help with heavy marinery. they say they are trying to protect children. >> the safety standards are very high. they almost always work age-appropriate tasks on the farm. when you look at the statistics twhribs only 7 injuries among 1,000 farms in america today and kids have a better chance of getting hurt on an athletic field than work on a farm. >> this is the problem.

american farms aren't what they were. we have an idea of lily white pastoral farms. you had family-run farms. now they have been corporate owned. i have factory farms employing thousands of people. it's not like your kid or grandkid is work on the farm after school. kids are able to work up to 12 hours, 13 hours. there is no limitation how long they can work on a farm. a lot of these kids are the kids of my migrant farm workers. >> 90% of our farms in america are owned and operated by families. 90% of young people who work on farms want to do it for life and they want their kids to do it. it still is a family-type business that is the backbone of our agricultural communities.

>> i spent quite a bit of time in the midwest and i worked for agricultural interests and i know what the american farm scene looks like. kids aren't being prevented from flinging bails of hay and milking cows. what they are greg vented from doing is being exposed to harmful pesticides. some of these regulations are so common sense. when you are operating certain tractors you can't be on your cell phone. kids under 16 years old here. this is an extremely common sense policy that is being wildly politicized not just by republican senators but people who work in these agricultural states whose come pains are funded by agricultural interests. i don't know what senator moran's motivations are. megyn: we are getting emails from farmers who say they teal like it's uncle sam infringe on

their individual sovereignty. >> both our bona fide against the american farm bureaus don't compare in asession how bad this law will be for farmers. that's why the afb is vehemently against this law. megyn: i think most our viewers would agree, children are meaning any in danger or legitimately in danger then we need to do something. but are they or aren't they? what is the evidence? >> reporter: the reports show that the agricultural industry is extremely dangerous. kids work on farms are five times for likely to die in the course of doing their work than any other industry where kids are employed. >> i worked growing up, my grandfather was a carpenter. i swung hammers on the job sites. i remember my dad being upset

with osha and the occupational safety regulations. but i still have both my eyeballs. megyn: we functioned rather effectively for hundreds of years with farming being the backbone of america. >> what problem is this regulation solving? if the statistics for injury rates are so low, safety standard are so high. in this law safety measures and safety organizations will be defund like the 4h. you know what it does do? megyn: that same question, why are we doing it if there isn't a problem. >> this is where you can have a companion philosophy between the united nations bureaucrat and the obama administration brew krats. they believe government can solve problems even if they

don't exist. you know what has grown? the department of labor's wages and hours division. under the obama administration in three years it has grown by 40%. this is virtually the auditors, the irs of the department of labor. >> this isn't about big government, small government within this is about smart government. these are some of the morse sensical regulations that exist. it's not government regulators who care about kids most. it's not frankly the farm owners because that what they are. we are not talking about family farms, were talking about large corporate -- >> there is an implication for family-owned and operated farms. >> parents have the safety of their kids most in minds. parents need to know how dangerous it is working with some of this machinery. megyn: you have farmers in the midwest saying and i do and i

don't need the government to come in and tell me. >> a farmer in the midwest isn't what a farmer in the midwest was 30 years ago. a farmer in the midwest isn't out there plowing fields. a farmer in the midwest is managing a huge operation. megyn: they are throwing soy beans at i right now. >> 90% of farms in america are owned and operated by individuals or family-run businesses. >> everything is owned or operated by an individual. >> corporations aren't. megyn: that's a good debate. thank you both so much. i feel like there will be more on this. thank you. coming up. video you have to see to believe. a plane forced to abort a landing because of high winds. but wait until you see what it was like for the ones who did touch down. two words. bubble up. a marine sergeant is being discharged from service after facebook posts critical of

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megyn: a marine sergeant being discharged from service because of social posted on facebook. sergeant garystein getting an other than honorable discharge because of a posting that was critical of president obama. other than honorable. that's not the same as dishonorable? >> reporter: it means he loses most his benefits but not all of his benefits. it calls into question the role of social networking.

the limit of what military members can say on their facebook pages. sergeant stein says he was exercising his right to fair speech. now an appeals commander has upheld the lower ruling saying that he does get an other than honorable discharge, losing most of his benefits. after he was kicked out of the marines he issued a statement saying i love the marine corps. i love my job. i wish it wouldn't have gone this way. i'm having a hard time seeing how 15 words on facebook could have ruined my 9-year career. actually it was 11 words when he said this. screw, obama, i will not follow all orders from him. he backed up and said he meant he would not follow unlawful orders.

it was in the contact of american soldiers being arrested in afghanistan for the burning of the koran. his attorney says they will continue to appeal this you even the attorney acknowledged he thinks further appeals will likely fail and gary stein is out of the military for good. megyn: we'll get a ton of email. the gentleman who just stated that family farms are not what they were 30 years ago? they are right. they are being run about it children of the farmers 30 years ago. if you have a thought, send it to me at kelly@foxnews.com. trail goes cold in the search for a-year-old girl. what do investigator does when there appear to be no more clues to analyze, no more witnesses to interview and no more leads to

pursue. a top official at the epa caught on tape saying social had to apologize for and a top congressman announcing an investigation into the epa and its practices. that breaking news is right after this break. >> according to the administrator the epa's general philosophy is to crucify and make an example out of energy producer so other will fall in line. his comments give us a rare glimpse of the obama administration's true agenda. bla the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today.

megyn: a gunman in an afghan army iewng form opening fire on u.s. services. that attack is under investigation. good news for home buyers. the average rate on the 30-year fixed rate mortgage is dipping to near record lows. police in north carolina releasing pictures of missing soldier kelly bordeaux. saying she took this photo of herself the night she disappeared. this is the last outfit she was known to be wearing. back to one of our top stories.

new fallout after a top official at the epa was caught on tape in 2010, about it just surface.. congressman darrell issa who chairs the house oversight committee announced he wants to investigate the regulatory practices of the epa following this. the following controversial comments from 2010 that have come to light. these feature a top epa manager, he oversees five states, comparing his approach to the oil and gas industry and how he regulates it up this administration to the approach used by roman conquerors. >> i gave an analogy to my staff about my philosophy of enforcement. i think it was probably a little crude and maybe not appropriate but i'll tell you what i said. the romans used conquer villages in the mediterranean and turkish town somewhere and they would

find the first five guys they saw and crucify them. that town was easy to manage the next five years. megyn: joining me now, former clinton campaign advisor and former bush speech writer. now chairman is a wants to investigate this. many people are standing up and paying attention. you heard jay carney being asked about this. should he be fired. he says he apologized and he doesn't speak for the administration. should that be the end of it? >> no, it shouldn't. i'm confused that maybe simon can clarify for us. we were told initially that obama was going to be the new messiah that was going to stop the rise of the ocean. now they this is a hugely reveag moment. conservatives have long argued liberalism is at its core an

athundershower tearan ideology. it's a rare instance where you have an obama administration basically confirming it. their role is government's job is to crucify american business and treat private sector businesses like barbarians that have to be conquered and tamed and made examples of so the rest of us will fall into line. that's how they have governed. the obamaed min straition has been like a horde of roman legions coming down on the taxpayers. they have spent 81 million hours complying with regulations and paperwork. that's money and time taken out of productive work. that costs jobs and costs businesses and they are doing exactly what they said they were going to do, they are crucifying american business. megyn: simon? >> that is a lot to follow up

on. megyn: take your choice. >> i think the epa official should be fired immediately. he's clearly not fit to be serving in the government talking about -- talking the way that he does. i want to be clear about one thing. he was not talking about the ep a's philosophy. he said my approach to regulation which is not the approach to regulation on the industry this administration has taken. look what happened in the energy sector. we now -- gas production in the united states, natural gas production is at an all-time high. oil production has gone up every year that obama has been president. we have seen a decrease in the imported oil in the united states as part of our overall oil strategy. 50% of the i we used in 2008 to 45% today. there has been a plummeting of use of imported oil. we have seen the doubling of the use of solar. the energy strategy this

administration used is working. and we are seeing gas prices come down. i think this is no way reflects the overall strategy of the administration. this guy should be relieved of his duties today. megyn: he said it's not just rhetoric. the guy when he apologized sit was offensive and an inaccurate way to portray our efforts. but inhofe says it's exactly what you do an gave examples in three specific states of the epa going after companies with big headlines, grabbing big headlines about how awful they were only to when congress was in recess and late friday afternoon then had to dial it back and admit they were wrong that the company didn't do what they said. here is inhofe on that point. >> they hope they can admit that they were wrong quietly. but we are not going to let that happen. we are not going to let them get away with it.

the american people need to know why the epa is pushing ahead with such intensity to capture such alarmist headlines and when their investigation shows they are wrong, quietly back away from them. megyn: he per siefts as harassment. >> i wish simon was right that this guy is an outlawer that doesn't represent the views of the this administration but this is exactly how the epa has conducted itself. oil production has gone up because of advancements in technology. it has nothing to do with the obama administration encouraging growth. they have new regulations putting hundreds of coal fire plants out of business and making it impossible to build any more. they are wage ago war on fossil fuels. most people who look at the

obama administration's energy policies realize this is a perfect metaphor. megyn: there is a lumber company in tulsa, oklahoma. the guy called me up and said i'm getting threatened by the epa, $5,000 a day for an alleged violation that i'm not guilty of. that would put me out of business. he claims this is one of the companies that was made an example of. and he underscores how damaging this approach has been. he says these are job creators, and you can't have them being made examples of in this way, that americans should be paying attention and should be outraged. >> just to repeat what i said earlier. natural gas production in the united states has increased dramatically under president obama. the epa and the energy department have been helping -- megyn: should more be done to make sure mr. armendariz's thoughts and philosophy is not

spread among other epa administrators? >> this guy clearly is not fit to serve in government and he needs to be removed from his responsibilities immediately for talking the way he did. no way did this reflect the overall philosophy of this administration. megyn: how do we know that? >> because the government has said that and because of the actions they have taken. during the time we are discussing, there has been a significant increase in production of oil and gas in the united states. there has been no curtailing of development. and all that happened with the backdrop of the worst of the worst -- let me finish, mark -- on the backdrop of the worst oil spill in the history of the united states and despite that oil and gas production has increased, new regulations with been put into place to protect consumer safety at a time when these do make method.

the modest regulations the epa put in two weeks ago around fracking were accepted by industry as reasonable steps taken to protect consumer safety. megyn: mark i'll give you the last word. >> keystone pipeline was rejected. the outer continental shelf has been put off for drilling for five years. the reality is obama has waged a war on fossil fuels an has a green energy initiative that resulted in solyndra and 71% of the green energy grants going to political cronies. that's what we have. megyn: good debate. thank you both. coming up. investigators reaching what appears to be a dead end in the search for a missing 6-year-old girl in tucson. what can they do to find isabel? "kelly's court" is next.

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fullest extent with the investigation. we are increasing the reward just please, please to the person or persons who have isabel, tell us your demands, tell us what you want. we'll do anything for her. we are looking for you, isa, we love you, and we miss you so much and we'll never give up. we'll never give up looking for you. megyn: the reward is said to have gone up to $30,000. what can be done to find this little girl? joining me now mark fuhrman, a former lapd detective and mark eiglarsh. they are saying they have no suspects in the case including the parents. you always look at the parents. our viewers know that. guilty or not guilty you have

got to start there. but they say they are being very cooperative but it hawaii appears they may be out of leads. i have got double marks. my apologies. mark fuhrman, that one is for you. >> in this kind of a case. this is pretty rare. 58,000 children are missing every year. but most of those are connected to some type of custody, neighbor, friends, family member and only about 115 are actually abducted by strangers. but only 18 are abducted from their homes. so this is incredibly rare. that's the beginning. and the police do have either a point of entry or a point of exit from the child's room. so that's where it all centers. i think that's where it's all going back to after the search for anything outside of the home. they are going back to the home. megyn: obviously a crime has been committed it would appear. it doesn't seem like little

isabel just got and walked off. how as a d.a. do you go in there, preserve evidence and make sure nothing is botched as it is in other investigations? >> it looks like they have done a good job. they kept the family out of the home until they did a sufficient search. they also questioned 15 of the sexual offenders who live within a 3-mile radius of the home. there is one right in the have it. i wouldn't take at face value anything those people say. i consider them to be potential suspects. i think there is also video they secured within 75 yards of the home allegedly showcasing the home. you preserve all those things. you analyze it, you go back to it and hopefully something comes through. megyn: mark fuhrman, how do you figure out if somebody did snatch this girl. it appears the screen was messed with in isabel's room. but there are no eyewitnesses.

the woman next door said the dogs were going nuts and she heard some men talking. >> we have to remember this is an occupied home and you have a man and wife -- this is a natural child. the wife is a nurse. she is at work by 8:00 when the child is not in a room -- discovered not in a room. so that means at the wife is up at certain points, maybe as late as 7:00, maybe as early as 6:00. so that could mean nothing. but it would even mean that the suspect is more sloppy and more amateurish than even on face value. you have to look at sex offenders. sex offenders are a serial criminal. they have an m.o. an m.o. they repeat. an m.o. they do not want to be caught. this is the best way to get caught. enter an occupied home, whether you know it or not, you know a 6-year-old doesn't live them by

themselves. that point of entry or point of exit should have trace evidence or some type of evidence below the window where somebody stood. we should know if it's a male, female, there should be disturbance in the dirt. there should be some evidence in that room. if there is not, that is cause for investigating the alarm and readdressing -- one last thing, megyn. i certainly hope and i'm sure it happened, that all the individuals in that home were interviewed individually. separately, and those statements compared. megyn: they say the parents are not suspects. does that tell us anything? >> well, i certainly hope they are being honest and truthful because it would be sad to think the parents are involved. i would polygraph them as their attorney just to make sure. they can say they are not suspects but people are still looking at them and hoping there might have been some sort of

involvement because they wouldn't want to think there was someone in the neighborhood doing that.

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>>megyn: our viewers are not happy about the new farm regulations. many of you pointing out a lot of injuries take place with children who have nothing to do with farms. a romney boy talked how he broke almost every bone in his bodies. kids will be kids. can the government prevent this? should it? we are taking your