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wire.com. there is an open thread up. keep it here on fox news channel, the most powerful name in news, we'll see you on greta wire.com all weekend. go there. on. ain't that a kick in the asteroid? >> kimberly: hello, everyone, i'm kimberly guilfoyle with bob beckel, eric bolling, andrea tantaros and greg gutfeld. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ democracy you won't believe president obama's latest insult to the troops. we'll get to it. but rush limbaugh is saying the 2012 election could be a blow-out for romney. >> do you think romney has a chance to win? that was the question everybody at the table, does romney have a chance? i appreciate the question. a great question to get discussion going. i think obama will lose in a
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landslide. >> kimberly: prediction, do you think it will come true? is rush right? >> andrea: too soon to tell, but romney has a very, very good chance. if you look at the daily tracking polls he is doing very well. just look at the enthusiasm. remember, obama was elected, you can go downtown to new york city. people were setting their motorcycles on fire. people were going crazy. the question -- >> greg: other people's motorcycles. >> andrea: or setting their aunt's garage on fire if they were bob beckel, with their excitement. i'm not sure they are going to do it this time around. he slipped with the catholic voters and the young voters. trying to buy the votes back. he will have a real hard time going in to states like ohio and pennsylvania. making the case he is the one who is really brought the jobs back. think about this. he has more money than any president to bring us recovery. he has, the purse strings. we gave it to him. a democratic congress. he couldn't do it. i think that needs to be the argument that mitt romney has. >> bob: we are in a recovery. number one.
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number two, rush limbaugh may be great on radio but he ain't handicaper in politics. this is not about the popular bush. remember when george bush stole the election in 2000. >> kimberly: i don't remember that. >> bob: this is electorate votes and obama is at 230 now and that is 41 short of the top. romney has a long way to go. it's electoral votes. electoral votes. electoral votes. >> eric: the numbers that came out today, these aren't good. look at what is going on. for the first time since world war ii, i believe, the gdp, $15.5 trillion in america only exceeded by the debt. $15.6 trillion. we're now equated in the same boat greece is, where the debt exceeds the gdp. last quarter, gdp grew by 2.2%. that's terrible growth. the debt grew more than the gdp. more numbers like this, one or two more numbers like this, forget it. obama has no chance to win.
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>> bob: gdp? grandmother deep -- >> kimberly: oh, my gosh. greg? >> greg: rush is talking about winning in a landslide, he meant a literal landslide. a landslide of the east and west coast burying all the liberals that way in middle america and voters would be safe to vote. it's a bad idea to say that. mitt right now is an underdog. he is rocky. obama is apollo creed. you don't tell rocky to get cocky. you tell him this is the fight of his life. he has to get his air dirty. go out and fight. you can't say landslide. that ridiculous thing to tell your candidate >> bob: mitt ought to chase chickens around the yard. do that. and then run. >> greg: you used to chase chicks? >> kimberly: not used to. >> eric: okay. we haven't talked about that it's not going to be mitt romney beating barack obama. it will be barack obama not winning?
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>> kimberly: we agree about that. >> eric: this could have been mitt romney, it could have been newt gingrich nil. number of them. >> kimberly: it could have been carrot top. >> eric: obama numbers go forward like this, he won't win. >> bob: this is a landslide is 10%. no way. >> kimberly: specifically speaking you say it's not possible. talk about the maps and polls. you like that a lot. it excites you frequentenly. if the election were held today, according to karl rove, the latest obama map. he has a solid lead over romney with 284 votes to romney 172. and 82 votes that are in play and up for grabs. bob, you were enthusiastic in a good move this morning. >> bob: let me say this. it takes 271 electoral votes to get elected president. rove gave the benefit of the doubt in upper midwest to obama. i'm not so sure about, i'm sure about pennsylvania. looking back at the democratic. not sure about ohio. michigan is a tough state.
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wisconsin is a tough state. the traditional democratic states of the north, romney has a lock on all the -- i shouldn't use pejorative word of nice southern people. >> greg: that wasn't pejorative at all. >> bob: he has a built in southern base. but obama has the coast and they add up to a lot of electoral votes. >> andrea: this boils down to romney needs to win florida and one other state. he has to win, michigan, ohio, or pennsylvania. he won't win michigan, i don't think. i think he will take florida. obama can't go to florida and say i brought back g.m. voters will say what are you talking about? if he were smart he'd say to floridians, the seniors out there barack obama cut $500 billion from medicare. in obamacare. it's already done. already in there. he could take ohio and pennsylvania, romney. >> eric: according to rove,
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in the that rove knows everything but he has elected a couple presidents. according to rove florida is the key. sopick rubio or jeb bush. do you disagree that would give him florida? >> bob: i don't december agree. everybody wants rubio. >> greg: i am the choice. i am the choice. he won't pick me. the past? the art films in germany come back to haunt me every election. >> bob: they were x-rated? >> greg: they were artistic. nudity is superficial. >> bob: this is a referendum on obama but the a terntive has to be accept to believe people. i'm not sure that romney is not foining to have enough gas. the problem with romney, he has no personality. >> greg: that is the best thing about him. hollywood is over. i mean, america is over hollywood. they are over the celebrity
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telling them how cool obama is. republicans just point out what obama accomplished. he said belgium, well, we're belgium. >> andrea: the promises were so big. >> bob: that's right. >> eric: you are trying to paint romney being fa nil la an plain. but most people are going you know what? maybe we should try vanilla or plain. >> kimberly: that is my favorite ice cream. i love vanilla. >> bob: race for mayor in new york, the line was tyler, if mayor. having said that, you have to vet some personality. >> andrea: i think first, romney would be an excellent debateer the, too. i take issue with you saying the campaign had gas.
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i think romney's campaign has been too careful. they haven't gone. >> kimberly: bob, you like this. pretty latina coming up. >> bob: bin laden is dead, general motors is arrive. >> kimberly: i have one. >> andrea: he blew it. obama blew it. rove ad and evan longoria ad after that. pay attention. this is trump's response right here. note ♪ ♪ ♪ [ chanting ] ♪ ♪ ♪ i'm so in love with you >> they are making him look great. like that is the man we want to be president. i looked at that clip closely, i couldn't believe it. i thought it was one of the worst commercials in terms of
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what they were trying to do i've ever seen. >> kimberly: all right. trump is right about this? >> eric: he is wrong. he misses this one. the rove ad, we talked about it yesterday. dana pointed out it was a joke. funny. it worked. most people got it. maybe mr. trump isn't watch the end. >> bob: i don't agree with trump on many things but i agree with him on this. there is nothing about, you don't take the strength of your opponent. even if the country doesn't want that in play to the weakest part. if they run an ad, gas prices you have an ad. you run the cool stuff and saying that he's -- >> eric: this is on the tail end of ad, though. the bad stuff. >> andrea: i agree with bob on this. they tried it in 2008, they tried it with bill clinton. trying to take down the fonz. he is so cool. not the right strategy. end of the ad is poignant. >> kimberly: jobs, jobs,
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jobs and economy. this is evan longoria, campaign ad for obama. can the latinas bring it home for him. >> whether he's fighting for affordable healthcare or access to education, or supporting small businesses in the hispanic community. over the last three years he has worked to reform our immigration system to give everyone a fair shot at the american dream. he is fighting to make sure people who are brought here as children have the opportunity to earn a pass to citizenship and contribute to the country they know is home. that is what this election is about. each one of us is responsible for the outcome in november. [ speaking spanish ] >> greg: those are some cheekbone. she reflects the perfect celebrity mind set where they live in a bubble that endorse policies with no effect on their lives. raising taxes, regulation or entitlement. they are too rich to care, because it doesn't affect them. in a way, celebrities are like children. they don't pay their own bills and they don't know how to make their own bed. they give their kids funny
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names, the way kids do to their box turtles because they think the kids are box turtles. >> bob: at a bar, drinking wine. >> kimberly: andrea, talk about this. trying to reach out and shore up the support. he has bigger problems than that. that he has to worry about. >> andrea: this speaks to naivety that hiring evan longoria or giving her title as campaign advisor is an insult to hispanics that somehow they'll see evan longoria and see she speaks for me. like terri bradshaw speaks for all single women. it shows small minded men thety. "desperate housewives," desperate women. >> bob: they handed this back to obama and they are coming up with the ads of immigrant stuff. that's why the republicans do badly with them.
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>> eric: two words. marco rubio. >> bob: he's cuban. that is different. >> kimberly: what are you talking about? >> eric: kimberly. take it. >> kimberly: we apologize on behalf of the entire cuba cuban-american community. >> bob: they have two different voting blocs. >> eric: we said latino. >> kimberly: cultural sensitivity training up next on "the five." oh, and bill clinton. praises president obama for killing bin laden. thank you, bob. thank you. but who is a better wartime president? george bush or barack obama? that debate when we come back. we've got exciting news, everyone. no more e-mail. our facebook page is now officially up and running. you can find us at facebook.com/thefivefnc. we hope you like the page. we explained what it meant to bob earlier. he's with us now. check back next week. every night after the show next week one of us will do q&a with you.
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♪ ♪ >> eric: president obama took a break from the campaign trail to address troops at fort stewart. does this sound like a warrior to you? >> they are trying to swindle and hoodwink you. today, here at fort stewart, we're going to put an end to it. the executive order, i'm about to sign will make life a lot more secure for you and your families. veterans and tougher for those who try to prey on you. >> eric: the heroic men apedom more for freedom and more for america in a day than
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you will ever do, sir. don't insult them by talking about schools preying on them. they take live round and risk their lives, sir. stop insulting americans who see through you while you deliver a left wing speech and pretending to give a damn about their service. one more thing, quit using military of photo op, it's unbecoming of a commander in chief. do you agree with me? >> andrea: i do. i think the president will do more of this. he will go to the military bases. if there is one group of americans you cannot swindle or buy off or do candy man thing with the young voters and others, the u.s. military. they don't need the president to promise them things. the military can do it on
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their own. can't be bought off like othe others. >> eric: rebuttal? >> bob: these are warriors and they pay for their education. we are saying we won't let people prey on you anymore. >> andrea: for-profit schools. how about the non-for profit schools -- >> bob: obama is right. military takes the brunt of it. he ought to take them down. >> kimberly: that is transparent the way he has political pandering. this is distasteful. military know it. they have far more love for president bush who is this day doing incredible things for men and women they're serving. >> he is stood up there and said he was trying to save them money. what are you talking about?
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it's disingenuous. >> greg: i don't know. i don't think it's as bad as you say it is. but -- >> eric: it's outrageous how would stand in front of the military and say i got your back on schools preying on you. why don't you stand up and say thank you for your service. >> greg: never mind. you can go on. if you want me to answer the question, i. it will's important to see how president obama changed his view about the military than becoming a president. he uses more drone than bob uses kleenex. the military is a boon to him. in a way, if the government is a family, the military is the older brother that bails everybody out. they're the opposite of entitlement. they are sacrifice and service. i have to give president obama the benefit of the doubt of changing his tune about the military. before as a community organizer i don't think he thought a single positive
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thing about them. he might have changed. >> bob: the military likes him very much. >> kimberly: no, they do not. >> bob: yes, they do. >> andrea: you definitely use a lot of kleenex. >> eric: i need to point this out. correct me if i'm wrong. every time you have military person coming to fox you ask what is on military bases on around the world? >> andrea: "the five." >> eric: fox is on. it's not cnn ornbc it's fox. am i wrong? >> bob: are you suggesting there are more conservatives in the military than liberals? you're right. they'd be watching fox and i'm glad they do. but to suggest that the president ended the war iraq said he said he would do and took courage to increase number of troops in afghanistan.
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killed more terrorists combined an should be given credit. >> andrea: but he is trying to apply the same tactic he is does on other groups going out there and giving them goodies on the military. it won't work. >> bob: what is wrong with goodies? >> andrea: it's a political stunt. gimmick. >> kimberly: it would be nice if he gave credit to the previous administration. since he uses them as a bunching bag to acknowledge the work and intelligence that went in victories we've had recently. through the bush c.i.a. intelligence office. >> eric: circle back on that. go ahead. >> greg: in a way, the great achievement of the obama administration is the killing of usama bin laden in a way benefited from things he was critical about, whether grit mow or military in general. he benefited from the welfare.
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he did play a role in it and he should get credit for it. >> andrea: if he wants to help the military and cares about them, he will get the men and women out of afghanistan. sick and tired of the crippling rules of engagement. what he is saying is disingenuous if you really cared get them out of there. >> bob: why he wants to bring them home early. >> andrea: it's right. they are over there to die every day with no plan in place. >> eric: we have to go. bob mentioned bin laden, take five or maybe an hour, this is the most important document you will read raring obama. talks about obama coming to office. peter baker talks about how obama went from preobama to post bam become and all based on george bush terrorism policy because of a credible threat against president obama, michelle obama and two daughters.
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it. >> i saw him combing his hair at the convention. said look at this guy? >> i'm not saying everybody. >> stood by his wife in illness. the only narcissist he was that turned on his family to romney who stands by his cancer, through m.s. >> i'm not saying that he like that. get a grip. >> why equate the two. >> andrea: so gumshoe behar saw romney brushing his hair and she determined an deciphered by that, they're droppalbangers for each other. >> eric: unbelievable how the liberal left -- mitt romney, people make fun of him. he doesn't cheat on his wife
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and doesn't drink or smoke. compare it to a guy that allegedly sold $1 million to hide his mistress from his dying wife? >> andrea: the storyline we hear all week is because ann romney had cancer an elizabeth edwards had cancer and romney has a wife that people want to know about, that he is trying to use her for political gain. his wife. sleazy politicians using their wife. >> greg: no sense at all. we know "the view" is ripoff of "the five." according to the journal of medical association watching "the view" causes simultaneous constipation and diarrhea so that is why nerve the audience looks so sick. >> bob: i don't think that is a bad -- before you indict the left on this. i don't know of a liberal who agrees on that. i don't. i wouldn't compare romney to
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jeffrey dehmer. i mean edwards to jeffrey dahmer. slip of the tongue. freuden slip. it's disgraceful. the left does not believe that. >> kimberly: that didn't help. >> andrea: now andrew young, campaign aid working for edwards was using hush money for his own personal gain. jimenez is battle of the pond scum. this is not good for credibility of the witness. the star witness for prosecution. jury instruction about the believability and the credibility of the witnesses. they will say do we believe this guy? he was able to get financial benefit from this. in exchange for testimony, not
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go to jail. so that testimony should be used suspiciously. but there are other evidence and facts in the case that are compelling and go against -- against -- >> bob: you need my swear jar saying that word twice. scumbag. >> andrea: that is not a swear word. let me ask you quickly, too, about the jury nullification. they will hate him so much, so we know the approval rating is 3%, outside the court. inside the courtroom, kimberly, is the jury prone to hate him so much because we all hate him, and they will hear the facts of the case, that they don't -- they say forget the evidence? he is guilty? >> kimberly: what is what the defense worries about the most unlikable guy to run for president. the reason to keep it from prosecution, this guy wanted to be president. he didn't care. wanted to have his cake or mistress and eat it too, so that was a problem here. the jury is not going to like him. seven women and nine men. the women will hate him.
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he's finished. >> bob: yeah, he's finished. [ laughter ] it only takes one juror to say no, right? maybe holding out for one. they can have their cake, too. >> andrea: right. the good news is greg, now that john edwards and hunter spotted not looking like they were in love at a waffle house, dave matthews who they were going to have at their wedding is available for your birthday party. >> greg: a shame. bob, we talked about this before. edwards is example of progressive pig principle, p-cubed. if you adhere to the left wing viewous get a pass. for a long time from feminists. he was so dirty. they gave him up. he almost became vice president. >> andrea: joy behar won't give him up. has to bring down romney. >> greg: the ideology trumps
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common sense. >> bob: who is joy behar. never heard of the broad. >> andrea: she looks like maude a little bit. >> bob: ugly as sin. >> greg: unnecessary. >> bob: she does, i don't think she -- >> kimberly: a comedian. >> bob: you say she stands for my party and my philosophy -- >> greg: metaphorically, you mean? >> bob: exactly. i didn't mean personally. i'd date her. >> kimberly: that is not saying much. on that note. >> andrea: did you hear that, joy? did you see the cup that wouldn't get the foul ball to the poor crying toddler? greg has thoughts on that when we come back. ving
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back to new york at "the five." ♪ ♪ >> greg: welcome back. young couples harassed for catching a baseball in the stands in a yankee's game, a ball that might have gone to toddler. ten yankees broadcaster castigateed them for not giving the ball up. they're monsters. behold, beholders. >> toss the ball. >> oh, my, god. they can't give it to the kid?
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that's awful. >> the little guy is crying. oh my goodness. >> he didn't get hit, he just didn't get the ball. >> wow! they're actually like rubbing it in the kid's face. >> kimberly: oh, my gosh. that is awful. >> greg: shhh. so to review, a baby is crying because he wants that ball. a ball that isn't his. but he wants that ball perhaps because someone else caught it. i suppose they could have given it to the baby. but they didn't even see the baby. but even if they did see the baby, they still don't have to hand the ball over to the baby. it's their ball fair and square. that is entitlement in a nutshell. taxing the rich to spread the wealth, birth control pills is all one screaming baby crying out for what you have. at least the baby at the game has an excuse, because it's a baby.
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i went back and i looked closer at the photo. i felt like had seen the woman before. you know who it was? a true monster. >> andrea: she doesn't like baby showers. >> kimberly: did you stay up all night for that? >> kimberly: i'm for the baby. >> greg: me, too. >> kimberly: how do you not give it to the baby? love is blind. >> bob: whining about entitlements, just like that. you probably to think the kid didn't deserve the ball. >> greg: that baby has not worked a day in his life. >> andrea: you know what is worse, greg? that baby was at the same stadium, in the same seat and his parents told "good morning america" he caught a ball before. he already caught a ball. >> greg: i didn't know that. i should have read the story completely. >> andrea: have you been at
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yankee stadium and a kid is next to you. if you don't give the kid the ball, they will kill you. >> eric: that is texas stadium. also that lady -- this is really funny, though. the announcers they stayed on the shot like we are seeing now. the announcers, the yes announcer, said we pointed out the couple should give the ball to the kid so there is a big outcry for the couple on facebook to, you know, they're terrible. they want an apology from thian ktheeannouncer. i say stand up for yourself. >> greg: you're a socialist. that is their ball. they earned that ball. >> eric: how do you know -- >> greg: you were born -- >> eric: throw the ball. >> bob: vote in the united states, house of representatives, the republicans would vote for you on that position. >> greg: absolutely. >> bob: rest would vote for >> kimberlyfor >> andrea: liberals would take it and slice the ball up. >> greg: no one could use the ball. it's unusable.
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>> kimberly: they offered -- >> eric: for the rest of the time we're on "the five," promise never to use baseball in political analogies? one thing that we don't want is -- there is no crying in baby. >> greg: but there is scoring. there is risk. when you sit out there, there is a risk you will get hit by a ball or catch a ball. that is life. >> bob: right winger. >> greg: damn right. that kid didn't deserve the ball. the parents newlywed offered the ball to the kid. and the kid had already forgotten about it because the kid has a memory -- >> kimberly: that's not true. the players gave him a ball already. >> bob: the vote would be 99-1, which is what it's against you for election. >> greg: teaching the kid he can't get what he want at a
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young age is good. >> eric: when you have a child of your own they will hand the ball to the kid. >> kimberly: they were getting marrieded on saturday. seven children between the two of them. >> andrea: throbbing hearts out of their eyes. >> kimberly: rab. >> greg: i'm right on this. >> kimberly: we don't care. >> greg: i know you don't. use your ideology correctly. >> kimberly: now you're done it. >> greg: you may not know this but bob beckel is huge fan of the royal family. he has thoughts on the one-year anniversary of royal couple. if
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♪ ♪ >> bob: i don't know about the rest of you, but i got really early this morning. to celebrate the first anniversary of william and princess kate. they had their first anniversary. last time they were on television when they had the wedding 2 billion people watched. i must say they both reported themselves very well. if queen elizabeth lives to be
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130, which i think she will, he will be the next king of england. you don't want to say anything, right? >> andrea: does it give you flashback to your wedding? >> bob: only the cost. >> andrea: i thought the cost of the divorce was the issue? >> bob: that was more expensive. go ahead. >> greg: we fought a war. the only royal i care about is george bret. 154 career at-bats, highest per hit for fid baseman. and ate so many crab legs one time at faith restaurant he ruined his pants -- time at a restaurant that ruined his pants. even with successful people when they are losing their hair, they get married. >> kimberly: i have a lot to say. i like the family a lot. i know prince charles and camilla well. >> greg: you know them? >> kimberly: yes. >> greg: how do you know them? >> kimberly: i have been on vacation. she was at my first honeymoon.
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this is really great. she is inspirational. >> bob: we have to move on. >> kimberly: i like her a lot. she is a role model for young women. she is beautiful and kind and does philanthropy and in time magazine, 100 most influentia influential - -- >> greg: who cares? >> bob: she is a role model for me. so there is another big event taking place this weekend. that is the white house correspondent dinner, annual affair in washington. really exciting. full of celebrities. there will be there besides -- >> greg: who cares? >> bob: five of us. >> greg: who cares about the celebrities? >> bob: i do. i was told to read et. ereese witherspon, kate hudson, pierce brosnan. i don't know who most of them
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are. we're going to be there. "the five" will trump all these "b" list people. >> greg:ly tweet throughout the whole thing. there is nothing glamorous about ugly reporters fawning over celebrities. it's pathetic. >> bob: i am her campaign manager. kardashian for mayor, brains are overrated. >> kimberly: look at the face with let's party. under spielberg, lindsay lohan, george clooney. >> bob: i was making a joke about kim, because i tell you what, anybody who makes the money she does, she is a very, very smart -- kilshe is sweet. >> andrea: brains don't matter. >> --s the slogan for -- >> bob: i was making a joke. people don't get jokes. >> kimberly: that is a problem.
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♪ >> kimberly: time now for one more thing. we'll start off with eric bolling. >> eric: north korea, you know, kim jong il died and his son took over. the two thing he is has done so far, tried to shoot a missile off, it didn't work. other one, they have a may day thing parading missiles but we found out that nato analysts believe that all the missiles they paradeed were fake and we might have videotape of this. ♪ ♪ >> eric: i guess they are fake. >> kimberly: good enemy to make. well done, bolling. >> andrea: when the epa isn't busy rusefying oil companies they do yeoman's work doing poetry contests.
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yes, taxpayer dollars well spent. whoever thought of that deserves a promotion. some of them kimberly breathe a moment in nature, breathe. only one home planet. i'm moved. i wrote one, too. stop trying to crucify oil companies. there you go. >> kimberly: winner, winner. okay. >> greg: my banned word for today is slippery slope. this is what people say when adisagree with an idea but they're not sure why. they say i think, you know, if you believe that this will happen, it can only turn in to something like that. that's the slippery slope. which leads to slippery slope don't use the word. >> kimberly: this list is extensive. >> greg: you're extensive. >> kimberly: correct. many ways. they had a great time at charity benefit that was co-chaired but the chairman of fox news. honoring this man, fantastic
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journalist, geraldo rivera. that is his beautiful wife erica. ope gate is incredible place. they are operating program fordd do tremendous work. >> greg: even was there but us. >> kimberly: you could have gone if you bought a ticket. would have about that? >> bob: give him credit for that. >> kimberly: willowblock investigation from the scandal. >> bob: one more thing is this. my much aligned washington nationals baseball team is now, catch this, in first place. i think they are going to be on to win. they will be in the world series in three years. they are beating braves, mets, phillies and marlins. you've come a long way short period of time. >> eric, i love the nationals. i know their management. >> kimberly: all right.
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