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>> is this going to be the music really? >> oy! >> thank you very much. welcome aboard live from new york city where the occupy protesters hope to bring the city to its knees. >> and stop the 99% from getting to work, we came in early today. >> right. >> also, they were paving this road which was a bit problematic to get into the office as well as the occupy wall street people. we'll be telling you about that the one-year anniversary as well of usama bin laden's death but pakistan still not answering how bin laden was able to hide in that country for so long. dominick live in pakistan for us now with more. good morning. >> gretchen, it was this very the pakistani authorities knocked his house down a couple of months ago to obliterate all memory, all you get is a pile of bricks. bit like this, sold in the local market believ's most terrorist had been killed by u

>> he's got a courier. his name was brought up to khali shaikh mohammed at which point he turned right and took a step back and they realized the courier is communicating solely with bin laden. we have to find out who he is. later they would. >> and he would be killed in pakistan. >> that's exactly right. so the information that was started during the bush administration is what led our navy seal team six to bin laden in that house in pakistan. mr. rodriguez was on the hannity program last night and reminded us that it was the bush era intelligence that led to this usama bin laden kill. >> we got a lot of information from the detainees that eventually led us to bin laden. >> that's a fact.

you were there and you know and you watched this unfold. >> what concerns me is that there is still doubt out there. people are doubting , you know, the amount of information that we got from this program. that gave us the basis to go after al-qaida and destroy al-qaida, the al-qaida that attacked us on 9/11 is just amazing! >> all right, so there he was

explaining the fact that a lot of his information came over a course of a lot of years, the eight years that president bush was in office. he maintains that capturing is better than what the style of killing is now which is these drone attacks. here's his explanation for that.

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we're all in trouble. >> yeah, it's going to affect everybody but it's going to affect young and old. if you're young, you're going to college, one and two can't get a job now. it's going to be, you know, three out of four can't get a job. if you have a home, the value of it is going to

we are obligated for $120 trillion with 10 years g.d.p. total everything going in taxes so, the book makes the point, that this is a solvable problem. it's going to require some courage. and some difficult choices. but it's immediate. and it's severity is real and each day we wait to fix the problem means the pain is going to be significantly worse. all one of the problems is half the country gets something free from the government and no one wants to give up the free stuff. so, where would you cut? >>guest: $9 trillion. >> it is clear. >>guest: you can take $1 trillion from the pentagon. you can take significant changes through the trillion, significant changes in terms of entitlements and making them more effective and work better.

you save $1 trillion in interest. and you raise $1 trillion in new taxes. >> you do not talk about raising taxes but closing loopholes. >>guest: you reform the tax code. if you look at reagan, their reform generated 4.9 percent real g.d.p. four years in a row and we are setting here struggling at 2.2 percent because people do not have confidence about the future and that goes back. where is the leadership? where is the leadership to bring up the issues to address the problems. the house of representatives has brought that but the senate never votes and the reason we do not vote is because harry reid does not want the members to take hard votes because they are running for re-election. why are we in the senate if we are not willing to take hard votes? >> it is clear the economy is the number one face facing everyone these days so how does romney make an effective case to the president? where is the leadership on this? and to the democrats in the

senate, harry reid, why have you not done anything? >>guest: it is an easy case to make if you look at history and economics. we have to quit spending money that we don't have on things that we don't actually need. we need to quit, there is $200 billion a year in the federal government in duplication. in other words, programs that just duplicate one another, so you look at all those problems and you say, why aren't we addressing them? >> and we have the graphic that shows how much the entitlement spending double by 2050. it is squarey. someone has to pay attention to it. it is laid out in the new book "the debt bomb," senator coburn thank you for joining us. >> 20 minutes after the top of the ahead, obesity rates raising but no matter your weight the crisis is costing you everything from gas prices to school buses which are expected to be affected. shocking new numbers coming up. and a party with your paycheck.

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>> wisconsin governor walker raising $13 million in three months for the recall election in june. the republican governor is trying to fight off the bid by democrats and unions to have him removed from office. after he eliminated collective bargaining. >> wasteful spending at g.s.a. is moving up. senator schumer announcing the agency signed a lease at one world trade center in manhattan one of the most expensive in the country and still living under investigation for living it up

in las vegas and so much more. gretchen: thought it was a hot tub. all right, get out the robe. no secret that americans from all walks of life are getting bigger with the obesity rate hierarch year and the problem now is costing all americans more money regardless of their weight. fox news medical "a" team is joining to breakdown the costs. good morning. so, the study that came out that looked into the numbers and it is startling $1930 billion it is costing the economy. >>guest: that is right. $190 million. we thought it would cost $110 billion, but now we find out it is almost closer to $200 billion. billion. on obesity alone. there is a real epidemic a third of the country have suffered from obesity and this is a serious health crisis. you look at the number of overweights in the country that have gone up by threefold and the number of obesity, morbid

obese people is up by six fold. as far as the cost, the number of days people are missing, men miss six day as year and women miss ten day as year. gretchen: the most obese men on average 5.9 days a year. and women, 9.4 days. why? because they are sick from being obese? >>guest: it is interesting, obesity is the more significant with the pressure it puts on health care is worse than smoking. you talk about smoking it causes lung cancer but for obesity, it is really a spectrum of disease. obesity is part of the syndrome, and it affects your heart. it affects diabetes. that whole syndrome is what we are seeing over here so going to doctors and missing all days, less productist.

if you look at overweight people they spend $2,000 more for their health care, obese people spend $3,000 more. and morbid obese spend $6,000 a year more on health care costs which is a lot more than any smoker. so it is a serious problem. gretchen: growing obesity rates increase fuel consumption each year. people do not thing of this, usually, because heavy people need more gas in cars, in airplanes, in buses, and this doesn't affect you as the health concern but it is a cost concern. >>guest: and affecting all of us and it will affect our pocket. the cost is 20 percent of the entire health care. so this is a serious issue and we need to slow this down and stop this. this is also affecting everything we do from the wheelchairs we see in our hospitals that are wider, to new jersey transit that are making

the seats wider, and this is a real serious problem. there are ways to slow this down and some recommendations. gretchen: you have a lot of recommendations. >>guest: it is easy. start doing this, you need to be active. exercise at least 30 minutes a day. three time as week. that is easy. breakfast, make sure you have healthy breakfast and not skip it. and make sure as far as diet do not starve yourself. eat healthy diet. get seven hours of sleep. seven glasses of water. and make sure you can stick to organic food. that is simple way to start losing weight. gretchen: thank you, doctor. the c.i.a. interrogator who got information that led to the osama bin laden killing is breaking his silence and we will

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change again. >> that's the secret they're keeping. >> they hadn't decided whose slogan they were going to steal. they say that this particular slogan is going to stress the fact that looking forward how the president needs to build on his accomplishments and deserves a second term. but when you look forward, let's take a look at some of the things and this data is gathered by "the new york post" this morning, let's take a look at how things are right now as opposed to when they were when he was elected. >> for example, the debt was $10 trillion. now it's $15.6 trillion and the jobless rate is up to 88.2 from 3.8 and gas is $3.81 and $2.80 when he took over. >> i don't think that's the way they'll analyze it. >> he tried "built to last" that didn't work. >> sounds too much like a truck ad, didn't it? >> no, it was win the future.

we can't wait and now forward. >> forward as in four more years. >> let's get to your headlines now because late last night, secretary of state hillary clinton departing for china as a diplomatic storm intensifies between the u.s. and china now over a blind chinese dissident. the tensions are threatening to overshadow the annual talks between the two countries. activists say he's staying at the u.s. embassy in beijing after fleeing house arrest. he angered authorities in rural china after exposing forced abortions there. brian? >> a judge releasing the emotional 911 call made by the oscar winner jennifer hudson's sister julia after they discovered their mom had been shot to death. here's part of the frantic call. >> someone killed my mom! >> you need an ambulance? >> i don't know. i'm scared. please. please send an ambulance, yes. >> hold on. is she breathing? >> i don't know! i just run out of the house. >> you know what happened?

did she fall? >> no. there's a bullet hole in our front door. >> that tape was played for jurors at the trial for william balfour, julia hudson's ex-husband. he's accused of murdering her brother, 7-year-old son as well. testimony will continue today. >> why do some teenagers start smoking or experimenting with drugs while others don't? scientists at the university of vermont discovered a number of previously unknown networks that go a long way towards an answer. the differences in these networks provide strong evidence that some kids are at higher risk simply because their brains work differently making them more impulsive. it is important to note that these brain differences occur before drug use and not after. >> an educator in new york city canceling class and instead showing kids a movie?

>> daniel larusso may have been the best around in "the karate kid" but one certainly is not. they found that lori shapiro canceled an eighth grade math class and had the kids watch the karate kid for close to an hour. why? apparently, so the teacher could tutor shapiro's son instead. the movie was being shown to other classes because of a teachers workshop. no word if it was the original karate kid or the 2010 remake. >> much better message in the original. >> oh, yeah? ok. one year ago, information from the c.i.a. helped send usama bin laden to his grave and many democrats, including the president, are quick to take all the credit now. >> now, they're trying to squash reports from former agency employees claiming that enhanced interrogation techniques played a major role in tracking the world's most wanted terrorist. >> blowing the whistle, jose rodriguez, former director of the c.i.a.'s national

clandestined service and author of this brand new book, certain to be a bestseller "hard measures, how aggressive c.i.a. actions saved american lives." jose, welcome to the couch. >> thank you very much. >> how do you feel about senator feinstein basically calling you out? >> you know, it's a very partisan report that they've been working on for four years. the republicans left that effort about two years ago. so i'm not surprised. >> jose, let's take a look at some of the things they'd like answers to. the senator's letter claims that you misinformed -- let's see, misinformed on the usama bin laden raid and intel. also, it points out that it destroyed evidence specifically of taped interrogations without white house approval and goes out to claim that jose revealed torture tactics like waterboarding reserved for military training. soldiers knew how to act when they were captured by enemy combatants. >> that's a mouthful, isn't it? >> it is a mouthful, how would you respond to those things and

answer that letter? >> let me tell you the effort to get bin laden was a 10-year effort. it took 10 years and a lot of information was obtained from detainees starting in 2002. that allowed us to take down plots to arrest other terrorists that were coming after us, to learn about the organization's structure, the leadership, their methods of attack. their programs, their nuclear programs, their anthrax program. so the key that was obtained, information that was obtained was key to the efforts to destroy al-qaida. >> is it disingenuous mr. rodriguez that this administration would want americans to believe it was as simple as asigning usama bin laden and killing him and anything that happened in the past eight years before that was not relevant. >> yes, as i said, it's a 10-year effort. thousands of intelligence reports were disseminated from

the detainees that eventually allowed us to get to the killing of bin laden. >> now, you talk about what the truth was with the first big capture we got. and how people tried to diminish the significance of that capture and what he knew. including the f.b.i. you don't mention names. but one of the guys that came forward and said it was ali sufan. he says your tough interrogation tactics hurt the process. what's your reaction? >> the truth of the matter is that in may of 2002, he was dead in the water. and actually, he had told him to go home. go home and have babies, those were the words that he said. we needed a new way forward. we needed an out of the box approach and it's interesting because years later, the 9/11 commission wrote a report and said that 9/11 was a failure of imagination. well, there was no failure of imagination in may, june, july

of 2002 as we put this program together. >> right. one of the things that a number of people, critics of yours say nothing we got from the water boarding or anything else led us to bin laden but you say that is not true. information gleaned from interrogations at some of the black sites did set you and us on the path to getting bin laden in that house one year ago today. >> that is very correct. and i was there. so i remember reading the intelligence reports coming from the field. and i was amazed to find out and that's the significance of it, that bin laden communicated with the rest of al-qaida through one courier. >> find him, you find bin laden? >> yeah, but tough to do. you have to find one -- but the significance is that he took himself out of the day-to-day running of the organization and decided to become a symbolic figure. so we knew that he was not going to be the operational person day to day.

>> made it so much more difficult to find him. >> yes. >> let's listen to nancy pelosi because back in 2009, this is what she said. >> we were not -- i repeat, were not told that waterboarding for any of these other enhanced interrogation methods were used. >> is she telling the truth? >> well, i personally was the person who went to the congress in september of 2002 and briefed her on the interrogation of abu zabada and the techniques that we had used. >> in 2002, you told her about waterboarding. >> yes. >> she just said in whatever that was, a couple of years ago, never heard about it. >> no. they have to take my word. there is documentation to the -- >> so many people are trying to rewrite history and that's what this book is supposed to do is tell people really what happened and for a lot of americans, we never knew what happened and you're actually bringing us

inside there because you had to fight for your own life and stay out of your own political trouble. hopefully that's in the past. now, jose, when we come back, i want to get your take about really what's in the last chapter of your book and that is the obama administration's approach to capturing and killing al-qaida and what worries you most including your reflections on his cairo speech and how personal you took that. >> in the meantime, they're rolling it in. members of congress cruising in luxury cars after all they don't see the bill. somebody did an investigation. we'll tell you how much those cars are costing us. >> look who is in our room, baseball legend hall of famer cal ripken jr. is here live and he'll be on the curvy couch promptly. >> even jose is impressed. >> i am! wake up!

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>> back with jose rodriguez going over his years in the c.i.a. and what he did to keep us safe after 9/11 stopping to follow up attacks. president of the united states gives a cairo speech. he talks about signing in 2009 a document that says we're not going to torture anymore. how do you feel about the cairo speech in which he apologized essentially for acts that you supervised? >> well, what really got me was the reference to the things that we had for torture. we had gotten approval for this from the president of the united states, from the previous president and been certified as legal. the congress had been briefed so this was a legal program. and to be told that by the president that he thought it was torture, i think it was very disappointing. >> how has it changed the entire

environment at the c.i.a. now and the way in which our country decides to either capture or kill terrorists? >> well, what happens is the administration has defaulted to a take no prisoners approach. so there's no way to interrogate people, to get intelligence -- to get out of that. which we need. >> why are we doing that? >> it's easier, it's interesting because our country, as powerful as it is, can't deal with interrogating anybody. it's easier to kill someone from 10,000 feet, you know, using a hellfire missile than it is to capture somebody and pressure that individual. >> even if you're killing civilians. latest report said 300 civilians -- >> i'll never understand that because it just seems that it's -- it's -- that's an afront to our values. >> let's talk about what we're doing now. you believe the administration has boxed themselves in with their campaign rhetoric about the army field manual, we have

nowhere to keep them. and now they're fighting to keep the bin laden photos under lock and key. you're almost getting arrested for destroying the tapes of the waterboarding. >> it'sation a little ironic, that's the way it is. >> one of the reasons you did it to destroy, you put all tapes into an industrial type shredder. you wanted to protect the guys that were doing the interrogating who were following the letter of the law. there was a three year effort. we requested permission to destroy the tapes in the fall of 2002 and everybody said it was legal but nobody would make the call. >> even if it wasn't legal, it puts you guys in jeopardy because you say what happened with the abu ghraib pictures and saw what happened with the burning of the quran, this would be right up there. let alone save your guys' lives. >> the motivation that we had was to protect the people who work for us. but it was also legal. the lawyers had been saying for

a long time, you can do this. >> how has this changed your life moving forward? >> well, you know, when i made the decision, i understood at the time that possibly this could come back to haunt me. i mean, you don't make a decision like that in washington. >> would you do it again? >> i would do it again, yes, yeah. >> don't blame you. check out his new book, it is a blockbuster. "hard measures" jose rodriguez, we thank you very much for joining us. >> pleasure. >> good luck to you. >> thank you. >> we'll talk to you again. >> thank you very much. >> coming up next on "fox & friends" look who is in the studio right now, baseball legend cal ripken jr. next.

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>> the prosecution in the perjury retrial of baseball great roger clemens playing audio tapes yesterday. the pitcher claims he did not use performance enhancing drugs. the case putting a spotlight back on major league baseball's long history of steroid abuse over the last 15 years. could his trial mark the beginning of the end of that era? here to weigh in, baseball legend hall of famer himself cal ripken jr. welcome back. >> i don't think i'm a baseball expert on steroids but offer an opinion. >> that's true. you did live through it and play through that era. as we watch the clemens trial, do you believe that hgh and steroids are in the rearview mirror of baseball? >> i think so, yeah. i think at first the shock of steroids and the culture of steroids coming out the way it did, discovering players, prominent players that were tied to it in some ways, that was shocking to me. and then you become a little curious and you watch it and now it becomes noise to me. it seems like this trial has

extended and the bad cloud of steroids are hanging over baseball but i think they've really put together a strong policy and they're moving towards that end. >> you have a lot of at-bats against roger clemens. do you believe he was cheating? >> you never know for sure. you have suspicions in some cases about players. i personally it's a secretive culture. the guys that are in it probably knew about it. it kind of blew me away when they started talking about steroids with roger. >> when jose wrote his book. let's talk about something else on xm sirius channel 89, you and your brother will be hosting a show in a couple of hours were let's talk about what you guys also do. you're working with humanity and energizer have come together, habitat for humanity. you are a handy guy! >> i guess so. no, i've been with energizer for six years now. they do great community service, etc. etc. this year they're partnering for habitat for humanity in a 13 city tour. i was out in joplin, i think

that picture is from joplin, hammering nails. that was somebody else's nail that was getting into my work. but then when we went to phoenix and i'll go to miami and it's a wonderful opportunity to help and build and do things in the community and energizer has really been active that way. >> as much baseball and sports you played as a kid and soccer and in baseball, of course, you still were handy. that bothers me, cal. >> it looks like i know what i'm doing kind of thing. my dad would say, hey, you're not holding the hammer down near the end. you have to use the leverage of the hammer a little bit. dad was a handy guy and he made the helper in many ways. i drew the line when it came to fixing engines. i don't know anything about that. i can swing a hammer. >> the orioles have not had a winni winning season since 1997. will they this year? >> we're keeping our fingers crossed fortunately -- i'm talking to buck on my radio show. their pitching, the whole league is pitching now. nobody is hitting.

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>> i hope it's going to be a terrific tuesday for you. it is may 1st. happy mayday, everyone. i'm gretchen carlson. thanks for sharing your time. this picture taken one year ago today. now president obama taking us inside the situation room the night bin laden was killed. >> at this point, i think all of us understand that we're a long way to go before -- before the night is done. and, you know, i've said that this was the longest 40 minutes of my life. >> but should this president get all the credit? members of seal team six now speaking out. >> from new york city to oakland and even russia, the occupy wall street movement causing chaos around the world, perhaps, and hoping to bring capitalism to its knees. the breaking details, it's

raining here. i don't know if they're still going to show. >> yeah, it's raining occupiers and it's a fight over the pledge of allegiance. one mother suing after her daughter got detention for refusing to stand and recite the pledge. was it her right to free speech or lack of patriotism? we'll talk about that. "fox & friends" hour two for a tuesday starts right now. >> speaking of the pledge of allegiance, i was at a school event recently for my son and not only did they say the pledge of allegiance but they sang "my country 'tis of thee" i was like wow, i had to dig deep back in my memory bank because, you know, schools don't do that. >> was that school in the united states? >> yes. yes. it was actually borderline new york and connecticut. so that was very impressive. >> patriots. >> we start your day with headlines. fox news alert and a developing story. bracing for mayday mayhem now?

mayday, an international workers holiday. and occupiers say they want to cripple the country to show they are what makes it run. so here in new york, the movement accused so far of sending envelopes containing white powder to six wells fargo banks in the city-owned office building. they came with you have 10 seconds to stop working, you're not in control and blank the bank. one of those envelopes addressed to mayor mike bloomberg suggesting plans to bring traffic to a stand still. all samples tested negative to hazardous materials. >> do they know it's always at a stand still? >> traffic in new york? >> yes. >> details about the bronx highway where an s.u.v. drove off the overpass on sunday killing all seven family members inside the car. apparently, officials have dragged their feet for decades on fixing that stretch of the road and last year, it was identified by new york as one of the most dangerous roads. but despite several terrible accidents and documents calling for urgent repairs, the city and

state failed to act. meantime, the family of the seven victims got some help as city cabbies donated $1,000 to cover some of the funeral costs. getting a bad sign this morning that confidence may be declining over the economy? new study by paynet shows loans to small businesses fell by 3% in march. the study did show lending was up 10% from a year ago but it's the same level where it was in 2005. many companies apparently still hesitant to borrow since the recession because of doubts with the economy. a woman in brownsville, pennsylvania, suing her daughter's school district after the girl was punished for not reciting the pledge of allegiance in class. according to a lawsuit filed by the aclu, the 13-year-old is being threatened for not standing with them. the aclu says she suffered as a result. the girl only serveded one lunch detention but according to the school solicitor, it was all a miscommunication saying "the district is committed to protecting the constitutional rights of all of its students.

we are going to make every effort to work with the student council to get this matter resolved." the student's counsel, that is, her lawyer. those are the headlines. >> on this day, it marks one year since the daring seal team six raid on usama bin laden's compound in pakistan. dominick is live where it happened one year ago today. dominick? >> you see the -- >> all right, can you hear us right now? apparently we're having a little problem with the satellite from pakistan. we'll get back to him. >> behind him is significant. that's where the complex stood a year ago and they wrecked it about three months ago because it was becoming a tourist attraction. >> it was. that's kind of scary. some sort of monument to usama bin laden's martyrdom potentially. the president is looking at the situation room picture and talking about those 40 minutes from one year ago today when the decision was made to take out

usama bin laden. he granted an interview to nbc and gave them full access into this room. here's a snip of that. >> the point is that all of us understand we're a long way to go before the night is done and, you know, i've said that this was the longest 40 minutes of my life. >> and to coin a phrase -- all you know is you have a blackhawk down. it's in the courtyard. it turns out to have been superbly piloted by a pilot who knew to nose it into the dirt to kill the torque of the landing. >> right. >> and cushion everyone on board. >> right. >> just -- >> and then i will tell you when i saw that pilot, i gave him pretty big hug. >> yeah, no kidding. >> you know what? this is causing -- the president doing this yesterday and going through the situation room which i don't think anyone has seen before has gotten john mccain beside himself and we're going to hear about that in a second. you want to go back out to dominick? >> let's go to the soundbite.

>> john mccain basically was with bill o'reilly last night and here's his description of what really bothers him about the way the administration is handling this. >> any president, jimmy carter, anybody, any president would have obviously under those circumstances done the same thing. and to now take credit for something that any president would do is indicative of the kind of campaign we're under. i have had the great honor of serving in the company of heroes and you know the thing about heroes, they don't brag. >> i think what really has the senator upset, too, as well as the interview, though, is the campaign ads that came out on friday. that's the one where bill clinton is talking about what a great deed that president obama did and all americans agree with that, taking out usama bin laden is not a partisan issue. what was partisan was in that ad afterwards, it said, what would mitt romney have done? and i think that that is angering people on the left and the right to politicize something that all americans were very glad about is maybe

wrong. >> plus there's just the overall feeling that the president is spiking the ball. he said he wouldn't spike the ball and he's doing that. in "the wall street journal" today on the op ed page, they talk about he's taking credit for it. eisenhower didn't take credit for his great achievements and neither did lincoln. something to read a little later. >> at 7 minutes after the hour. we'll go back out to dominick who is live in pakistan. you can hear us now. very significant spot you're standing in? >> absolutely. you know, exactly a year ago, this is where those two navy seal helicopters landed. just behind me. and, of course, entered the compound and killed usama bin laden. you know, that night, the weather was very clear, right above us is a very dramatic storm about to break out adding very much to the somber situation and the somber atmosphere that is very much felt today. behind me, you can see a bunch of kids who are playing on the

ground itself. not exactly sure what usama bin laden would make of that guys but certainly a complete turn around and change of circumstances and one of the most historical site in pakistan these days, guys? >> ever get an explanation, dominick, about why he was there so close to a military base and so close to capital? >> i think he just lost his satellite again. >> either that or he's ignoring me. >> that was a great question. many of us want to know the answer to that. >> how many times have i went up to you, steve, and i said what's for lunch today? and you'll go like this. >> he didn't bring enough for you. >> you know what? the country of pakistan doing the same thing. we can't hear you, we don't know why you're asking why we hid him from you. >> somebody who did hear the president was the seals. seals who took out usama bin laden. they heard and saw that campaign ad from the president that we were just alluding to and it has some of them a little bit upset like a former commander of seal

team six and now he's in politics himself. here's his quote. "t "the decision was a no brainer. i applaud him for making it but wouldn't pat myself on the back for making the right call. i think every president would have done the same thing." >> he's a state senator in the state of montana and a republican and also, currently serving seal team member said obama wasn't in the field at risk carrying a gun. as president at every turn, he should be thanking the guys who put their lives on the line to do this. the more he tries to take credit for it, the more the ground operators are saying come on, man. it really doesn't matter who was president. at the end of the day, they were going to go." it's interesting, you know, the whole thing about , you know, we've really got to wonder whether or not mitt romney would do that was brought up by joe biden and the president of the united states listened to joe biden when they were planning the operation. joe biden said don't do it, president. we have two more things to answer to, don't do it.

>> jimmy carter keeps coming up, he had a very courageous move to allow our special forces to go in with choppers and try to get out our 52 hostages in the embassy in iran. that was an operation that took a lot of guts to call and bill clinton is hailing president obama who missed a myriad of opportunities to take out bin laden including december of his final year in office. so he -- it just -- the irony is everywhere. >> i think the alluding to even jimmy carter would have done the usama bin laden thing. since he's been president, he's been very anti-war. >> even arianna huffington who does the huffington post says using this in a campaign ad, spiking the ball, i'm paraphrasing, of course, inappropriate for the white house. >> even president huffington would have made that call, that's what you were getting at. >> that's right. they're trying to make politics out of it. do people care about it? there was a "washington post" poll out in january of this year where 51% said the economy was the number one issue. how many people said war on terror, security and stuff like that? 2%. people are more concerned with

g.d.p. than o.b.l. >> coming up next on the rundown, he's gone from being a top gun fighter pilot to a banker on wall street and he says corporate america needs a new mission, entire military make-over. he'll explain coming up next. >> then, we've been following this story for you. army vet trying to get a refund from spirit airlines because he's too sick to fly. there's a new update. you're not going to be happy. that's not the spirit. i am you

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and corporate america is extremely different but have you ever thought that the men and women on wall street could learn a thing or two from our armed forces? that's the lesson from our next guest, lieutenant commander jeffrey lay is a 24 year veteran of the u.s. military and author of the brand new book out today called "top gun on wall street." he joins us today. >> how are you doing? >> i'm doing fine. it's a great idea. what you're putting in the book is the fact that the things you learn in the military that a lot of people don't understand because you don't brag a lot about what you learn and the leadership and what not, can really be applied to business. >> no question. where i come from, leaders actually are the last to take credit and they're the first ones to step up and take responsibility. i listened to the piece earlier from senator mccain and he nailed it. >> it's not just wall street. you're talking about corporate america. there's not a lot of leadership in many cases, are there? >> there's not a lot of leadership. people that want to be true leaders have to lead from the front and lead by example.

set the example every single day. >> you say the military is a perfect business model for a lot of corporations. >> it is. america is really a nation that's starting to lose a little bit of its preeminence but the united states military hasn't lost the preeminence in corporate america. politicians, everybody can learn from this book. >> let's do some learning right now. some of the tips. you cannot come in sideways. what does that mean? >> in the united states military, you can't just come in sideways. you can't go from being a general in one area and in another. people get the large payouts and they're still employed. there's something wrong with that and unfair. >> the fact that you can't come in side ways is the fact that you landed jet fighters for a long time and you can't come in sideways. >> definitely a straight ahead operation. >> something that always keeps you on your toes is hippity hop please stop. >> at the naval academy when you were a freshman, you were accountable every single time in your life. at any given moment, an upper

classman could stop you and say hippity hop, please stop. >> they can ask the plebe anything and the plebe has to have an answer. >> that's right. you have to have an answer. you have to answer up. >> honor concept is what? >> the honor concept is something that the naval academy and entire military is built on. we don't deal in half truths and don't deal in lies. we believe you have to be a person of integrity and that's the only way to put your lives into another person's hands. >> plus you talk about the importance of team work and you say we don't send anyone anywhere. we all go together. >> we all go together and nobody is actually put out there to take the blame. there are no fall guys and it's often said there's no i in team. there's no i in top gun either. >> what you learned with the military chain of command could be applied to corporate america in what way? >> it absolutely could be applied. the type of accountability and personal responsibility and the idea that learning from your lessons and standing up and taking your grade, that's really a core part of our mission in the united states military. >> what do you think the number

one mistake that a lot of business managers or, you know, c.e.o.'s and what not make? >> they really don't always stand up and take responsibility for the first thing that goes wrong. trying to sit back -- >> they lose their job if they do! >> it's tough, you could be losing your job in the united states military but if you lose your job in the united states military, it's probably because you deserve to lose it. there's a nation's protection on the line. >> the book is called "top gun on wall street" and it's terrific. thank you very much for joining us and we thank you very much for your service. >> thank you very much. >> thank you, sir. >> all right. meanwhile, 18 minutes after the top of the hour. he's known for his hard hits on the football field. up next, former nfl star chris spielman is opening up about the toughest hit of his life. his wife's fatal battle with brain cancer. breast cancer that is to say. take a look at this. dancing seemed like a cool idea until he fell off. how he managed to survive. oh, my goodness. what was he thinking? oh, yeah, he wasn't. right back.

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>> time now for your news by the numbers. from the control room, first, 8%. that's how much fidelity investments say its 401k accounts grew last quarter on average thanks to surges in the stock market. that sounds good. next $13 million, that's how much the wisconsin governor scott walker has raised ahead of his recall election in june. democrats trying to oust him because of his tough stance against labor unions and finally $5.85 million.

that's about how much holly golightly's iconic manhattan townhouse from "breakfast at tiffany's" just sold for. buyer -- anonymous. brian, gretch? >> all right, steve. chris spielman has done it all in the game of football. he was a star in college for ohio state. played 10 seasons in the pros and became a tv analyst with espn. it was off the field that he met his toughest opponent. >> in 2009 after an 11 year battle with breast cancer, his wife lost the battle with cancer and he's sharing the personal journey in the new book "that's why i'm here". good morning to you, chris. >> good morning. >> one of the things i remember most about your story is how you devoted your life to your wife after she became ill. >> well, couple of reasons for that. one is god blessed me financially to be able to make that choice. there are many men in my situation that don't have that opportunity to step away from their job. i did. and for our marriage, it was always about me.

even when we went on vacation. i don't care where we go, as long as it has a great room and a great field to run on and train on. so for me, we made that decision for one reason. one, i said in sickness and in health and i meant it. and another thought that went into it, when our kids have difficult decisions to make, they'll be able to look back on their mother and father's actions as opposed to just their words. >> your wife was diagnosed with breast cancer in 1998 and started a 12-year long battle. what were those 12 years like? >> roller coaster ride and, you know, the book, you'll see where i transform myself. i become more of a complete man as opposed to just football. you know, when us a player, i defined myself this way. i want to play football. i want to coach and i want to die. there was a transformation obviously, a faith driven book and you'll see how things become more of a priority and more important in my life. one story i'd like to share real quick is that when she was first diagnosed, it was really interesting because i was the pep talk guy.

we're going to beat this thing. we're going to find its weaknesses. we're going to exploit it and destroy it. three hours later, we're driving to the cancer center at ohio state university and i pound my fist against the car window and slam my fist against the ceiling and i say why us? why is this happening to us? we just miscarried a third child and i was coming off a severe injury. she looked at me with a look of disgust. and she said to me in a tone of voice she never used before. how dare you. i said how dare i what? how dare you say that with all the blessings that we've been given up to this point and all the hands that have served us. right then and there, i decided to become a servant, a servant of god, a servant of family and a servant of community in that order. >> and now you are raising your four children with stephanie. she had -- you together had two more children after she became ill. what's it like being a full-time dad? >> well, i think all single parents can identify that sometimes you feel woefully inadequate. you get in enough time and the age that i have is 9 to 18.

and so there are different challenges with that. but i'm learning to get in touch with my feminine side, so to speak, really, i'm more patient. i'm more tolerant. i'm more understanding. my kids are very independent and we choose to celebrate their mother's life as opposed to mourn her death. now, we have our challenges, don't get me wrong. but she was a wonderful lady that was a servant and i'm just trying to carry on that mission. that's what i promised her a day before she died that i'll be the best dad i can be and i'll carry her mission on ward. >> she passed away at the age of 42 in 2009 and you've raised with her foundation in her name over $10 million. >> this is interesting. we used my nfl platform to get this started with the goal initially of $100,000. people got behind it. stephanie became a voice for breast cancer. right now, we're at $10 million and the interesting part about that, every dollar goes to resear

research. not $1 goes to overhead. a lot of breast cancer organizations out there and not many of them can say that at the james. >> it's an amazing story and amazing book. "that's why i'm here" chris spielman, a lot of guys can learn a lesson or two from you. >> i think he could still play. think about a comeback. >> take a shot at the title? >> you, maybe. me, i don't think so. my nose is bleeding already thinking about it. we're looking right now at who could be running with mitt romney. a different candidate almost every day. up next, florida senator marco rubio on what he would bring to the ticket and potential skeletons in his closet. >> plus, what do these congressmen have in common? they're cruising around in luxury cars? why not? they're not paying the bills. because the taxpayers are doing that. we'll explain coming up. ♪

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>> time now for your shot of the morning. it is being called a lazy boy on wheels. you're looking at one of the eye reel which is one of the concept vehicles. it was just unveiled at the car show in beijing. it's powered by batteries and controlled by two joy sticks. toyota says it reaches top speeds of 20 miles an hour.

it's not in production yet but engineers hope it will be a step in the right direction. or seat in the right direction. >> if they do sequel to mall cop, if they'll be in that. >> paul blart. >> does that get you as ginned up as the jet pack? >> no, if i can't fly, i'm not happy. i heard they were going to buy one. >> no, no. >> i read that somewhere. >> yeah. i think that was in a blog. let's talk about this, members of congress are leasing expensive vehicles. here's the thing. they don't really have to pay for it because you do. the taxpayer pays for their vehicles. so what would you think that the monthly charge might be? what would be reasonable for a monthly charge for a lease? $400, $500? it turns out it was more than that. >> why do they need cars in washington, d.c. anyway? or maybe it's for their field office or back at their district? anyway, from "inside edition"

lisa talked to bill o'reilly about the finding of these 85 cars all driven by house members, all but one are democrats. watch. >> we did some research and we did some paperwork first and found that 82 congressmen are paying for cars using your tax dollar. of those 82, 25 are paying at least $800 a month for their leases. so we decided to follow some of these congressmen in their districts and find out what they were driving. and get some comments from them. so we found anywhere from $800 for an infinity to $1,200 for a tahoe and up to $1400 for a yukon. and we thought that was a little bit excessive. >> yukons. some of the -- some of the members of the house who drive these expensive cars, congressman gregory meeks from new york. bobby rush from illinois. >> who was the last one to beat president obama by the way in an

election. congressman towns and we also have the one republican in it is barton out of texas. >> by the way, this is a -- this is a perk that only applies to the house. the senate has rules. they can't do it. >> all right. 27 minutes before the top of the hour. now your headlines. with a brand new terror warning, officials saying there's a possibility al-qaida could try to blow up u.s.-bound airplanes by planting bombs inside the bodies of terrorists. they said there's reason to believe that al-qaida's master bomb maker has designed a nonmetal bomb that can pass through airport security. u.s. carriers flying in from europe and the middle east are reportedly at the highest risk. airports within the u.s. also on high alert. of course, this warning comes on the one-year mark of the u.s. raid that killed usama bin laden. >> it's the second tasing case against university of florida members in less than two weeks. nine members facing charges for striking and paddling nine

pledges. the men are accused of hitting them in the chest with a flat piece of wood in a ritual known as thunder slaps. they originally suspended the fraternity after two students complained of injuries. >> meanwhile, a music festival in australia hits a sour note when a concert goer takes a terrifying tumble. take a look at this. >> what was he thinking? the guy apparently snuck past security, climbed to the very top of that scaffolding. he was up there dancing to the music and he lost his footing if he had that, he took the plunge and incredibly, he was not hurt witnesses say. he just brushed himself up and kept on dancing. >> saying no, that's the answer that spirit airlines gave this terminally ill war veteran when he asked for a refund on his flight. he told us his story this weekend on "fox & friends." >> i did not know that i was

terminal when i purchased the ticket. and i found out two weeks later. and just asked out of curiousity, you know, how do we go about getting a refund? and they said there's no way. they won't even change the name to my daughter so she could fly back and forth. it's just unconscionable. that's the way i feel. >> even after that, spirit is still standing its ground. not even agreeing to donate the cost of his ticket to charity. >> last night, bret baier on fox newschannel kicked off a special series happening owl -- all this week called "running with romney". now you know what it's about? the possible v.p. picks, the strengths and weaknesses. last night, he sat down with senator marco rubio. here's a part of that interview. >> you are 41 at the end of may. >> yeah. >> you're a u.s. senator. >> i feel 42. >> do you? >> you're a u.s. senator. >> yeah. >> who made it through a campaign that was at the

beginning there was no chance for you. >> right. >> now you are on a short list, whether you say so or not for vice president. do you ever pinch yourself and say holy cow, how am i here? >> i pinch myself because of the understanding that i've been blessed with a real rare opportunity that few americans ever get to serve their government and their people at this level. it doesn't escape me that less than a half decade ago, my family lived very different circumstances. my dad was a bartender and my mom was a maid. it was unimaginable that anybody in the next generation would be able to attain. this is what other people did not, people who came from where they came from. that strikes me. the other stuff is fleeting. >> rubio's resume shows a politician on the move. and one who largely credits his success to hard working parents who came to the u.s. from cuba. >> i think that's a tribute to them, no doubt about it. but i think it's an even greater tribute to america because it's one of the few societies in all of human history where a story like that would be possible.

>> rubio is the father of four young children. also, he says, a driving force in his life. >> my kids are going to come back to washington 20, 30 years from now and i hope that they can say, you know, my dad was away a lot but it was for a reason and he made a difference. and i wanted him to be proud of my service and what i've been able to do here. >> the next president of the united states! >> on the stump, rubio hits home a message of fiscal discipline and limited government. >> what we need most from government is to create an environment that encourages people to go out and start businesses and grow their existing businesses. and you do that through a regulatory framework and tax code that people understand and it's predictable. and they can comply with. >> as a member of the senate relations committee and the select committee on intelligence, senator rubio says the biggest foreign policy issue is american leadership in the world. >> only america can put together the kind of international coalitions it takes to confront everything from human trafficking to the issues involving iran and syria. >> there are a lot of people out there that would like to see you

on the ticket. some have concerns about your past. one is this credit card when you're speaker of the florida house, you charged personal expenses on this party issued credit card. what happened with that? >> at the end of every month, we would get those statements. we would see what was on there that was party related and the party would pay that. if it wasn't party related, i would pay that directly to american express. now, obviously in hindsight, it looks bad, right? why are you using the party credit card at all? some of these expenses were because the travel agent had the number, you know, the credit card number and they billed that to that card instead of the other card. sometimes it was a mistake. literally reached for the wrong card. it's important for people to understand i did not bill personal expenses to the republican party of florida. the republican party of florida never paid my personal expenses. i shouldn't have done it that way. lesson learned. >> i don't think that's a big skeleton in his closet. ralph portman is next and saw chris christie in the paper

saying he could be persuaded to be the number two. i'm sure he'll be a finalist in bret's series. >> we had dick on this program a couple of weeks ago and i said it should be that guy, marco rubio. >> that's all he'll do. the top terrorist interrogator told us his tactics saved lives. >> a lot of information was obtained from detainees starting in 2002 that allowed us to take down plots to arrest other terrorists that were coming after us. information that was obtained was key. >> our next guest says he's absolutely right and is an american hero. she lost her brother on 9/11. >> and a fox news alert. occupies say they will to cripple the country today. why the heck would you want to do that? we're live in downtown manhattan to ask them point blank. >> it's raining. they won't come out. having one of those days?

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>> we've got a fox news alert for you right now. cities across the nation bracing for mayday mayhem by occupiers. one of the biggest movements in the country happening right now here in new york city. wnyw reporter robert moses live with the details. robert, it's raining. you got to figure that may stop a lot of the occupiers from coming out today. >> steve, it could. good morning to you. and good morning, everyone. we're here outside of bryant park in midtown manhattan. this will be one of the staging areas for the day of action promised here in new york city as well as all across the country. it may be difficult to get it -- to get into and out of new york city because protesters are promising to block at least one manhattan-bound bridge or tunnel. you might recall back in the fall that some occupy wall street demonstrators were arrested as they tried to cross the brooklyn bridge.

the occupy wall street movement went into a lull over the winter. you might recall that back in november, the main encampment here in lower manhattan was dismantled by the nypd but all along, protesters pegged this day as the day their movement would come back and indeed, many protests are planned here in new york city and all across the country. police here say they're ready. one of the criticisms that we've heard is that, look, the 99%, the people that these protesters want to support could be inconvenienced today but one person i spoke to this morning said they're just trying to raise awareness today. that is the latest live from midtown manhattan. steve, back to you. >> mr. moses, thank you very much. all right, gretch, over to you. >> thank you very much, steve. jose rodriguez, the former director of the c.i.a.'s national clandestined service is making news with his new memoir "hard measures. how aggressive c.i.a. measures after 9/11 saved american lives." here's what he said earlier with

us on "fox & friends." >> a lot of information was obtained from detainees starting in 2002. that allowed us to take down plots to arrest other terrorists that were coming after us, information that was obtained was key to the first to destroy al-qaida." >> the co-founder of 9/11 families for a safe and strong america, her brother captain charles burlinggame was the pilot of hijacked american airlines flight 77. she's speaking out calling jose rodriguez a hero. good morning. >> good morning. >> so many people are saying he's not a hero. that he did these enhanced interrogation techniques, that he tortured the terrorists and that somehow he should be held accountable for that. >> well, there have been a number of investigations that have exonerated these guys and i frankly think that the investigations were an outrage. these men are heroes. we don't know their names. the defense attorneys down at guantanamo want to find out who they are and expose them to the

world but make no mistake, gretchen, these men kept this country safe. and now it's been documented, heavily documented and the obama administration knows precisely what plots were discovered and disrupted as a result of the enhanced interrogation. >> in fact, you brought something with you from the department of justice that eric holder wrote in 2010 saying what? >> well, his justice department wrote this. this is in the case of -- in the galanni case, the 1998 embassy bomber put on trial in new york city. his attorneys tried to stop the trial citing torture and the justice department came back and said, yes, he was in enhanced interrogations two years in c.i.a. black sites and they called him "a rare find" and a top level rich source of info that was urgent and both crucial to the nation's war efforts. they go on and on listing -- this is -- these are redacted

examples in their legal brief of all of the intelligence they got from him and there's more. it's 75 pages of legal brief talking about how reasonable the r.d.i. program was. how crucial it was. how it "saved lives". >> so exactly what jose rodriguez was doing when he was with the c.i.a., it appears this administration is against. i want to bring you to this. last year at the 9/11 anniversary, you had an opportunity to be near president obama and you confronted him on the fact that some of the c.i.a. agents were being investigated criminally. what happened? >> i told him that i was a former attorney and i knew that he could speak to eric holder, his attorney general, and pull the plug on these investigations. i said to him, mr. president, you wouldn't be here today at ground zero were it not for these patriots doing their duty. can't you speak to attorney general and stop these men from

the heavy, you know, onus of criminal investigation? and he said no, i will not and he turned around and walked away from me. >> since then, they did stop the criminal investigations. >> yes, well, they waited until the 9/11 anniversary was over so they could quietly put it away in anticipation of this political campaign. i think they knew full well they were going to be using the bin laden takedown as somehow their crown jewel in the obama administration's first four years. >> deborah burlingame lost her brother on 9/11. you're the co-founder of 9/11 families for a safe and strong america. thanks. >> thanks, gretchen. >> unemployment rate expected to get worse this week. cheryl casone is here with the companies hiring right now. wake up!

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>> finally got some good news for job hunters this morning and i know there's a lot of you. new research shows 2/3 of human resource managers are planning to hire in 2012. even better, for larger companies with over 10,000 employees, that number increased to 80%. cheryl casone is here from the fox business network. she's here with the five top companies hiring right now. let's begin, cheryl, with marriott. >> marriott international, i had the ceo on the fox business show on the network and he was talking about the fact that they'll be expanding globally. 7100 openings right now. they'll be opening up the world's tallest hotel in dubai. more than half of their general managers actually came from housekeeping. from working the front desk. i asked him what the plans were?

here's what he had to say. >> we'll hire about 20,000 to 25,000 people in north america this year. i suspect 5,000 to 10,000 of those jobs are brand new and the rest would be replacing some form of turnover. but we are hiring because we're adding new units in the system and by and large, that's what drives employment. >> all right, good. they hire from within. >> they hire from within and they have benefits as well. that's always important. >> good, scripps health. >> this is a nonprofit health care system. and they have acute care hospitals, home health care services, very important, very normal to find jobs in health care right now. salary ranges for this one, in particular they're looking for nurses that can work in the i.c.u., if you are one of those nurses, $33 to $55 per hour and if you're a representative, and if you can do sales for scripps health, you can make from $13 to $26 per hour and if you do sales, $26 and up. you get free health insurance, obviously with this one. they're based in california in

san diego. aarp said this is one of the best companies to work for. the number one company if you are 50 and older. we all need health insurance especially when you get to elder stages of your life. >> from health to food. a family-owned business, family owned chain. >> yeah, they're very well known in the northeast but they've got -- they actually came in as fortune's best companies to work for. they ranked them for the number one chain to work for. they still have kind of that family atmosphere, you know, that -- you know, you're part of the family. we love you. whatever. anyway, they'll be hiring in crofton, maryland is their newest store. you can work entry level management, culinary, overnight customer care. they have a good reputation as far as employers. >> dave's bridal. the largest u.s. bridal store chain in the country. i didn't know that. >> david's bridal. >> in wedding dresses. >> it's wedding time! it is may. it is june.

it is july. it is time for the weddings. in 45 states across the country and they usually have a lot of attrition so they usually have jobs open. right now, they'll be opening up five to 10 new stores. they're already in 45 states. they have 300 stores and they'll have a job fair in new york city come september if you're living in the new york area. >> finish up with the assurance group, insurance company. >> this is life, dental, health, home, florida, georgia, north carolina, texas, if you're in insurance sales, you can make from $40,000 to $60,000 per year. i wish that was per hour. original sales directors can make 100k plus. this is the insurance market. everybody needs insurance. this is a growth industry but also a steady industry. they reached out to us, by the way. thanks for e-mailing me. >> e-mail us, ffjobhunt at foxnews.com with your success stories or the jobs that you want filled. cheryl, thanks so much. >> pleasure, as always. >> we'll watch you on the fox business network. >> please do. >> all right. at noon. >> yeah.

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you decide. they did it on little rascal, chris. "fox & friends" starts right now >> steve: welcome aboard. 8:00 o'clock here in new york city where the occupiers have vowed to -- don't go to work. they don't want people to go to work or school. they want people to observe their great movement. >> brian: right. they're combining with unions in various cities across the country and when you don't have a job and aren't trying to get one, it's easier to take off wore. >> steve: the traffic is moving fine. are they going to wait for lunch? >> brian: if there is a traffic jack in new york city, no one will notice. there is always one there. >> steve: if you work in midtown, clear sailing at fifth avenue. >> gretchen: looking live at a huge fire in massachusetts. the flames quickly spreading through the complex. this is just a short distance from i-95, as well as a

neighborhood full of homes. there is no word oat on any injuries or what caused the fire. a group of british lawmakers in a divided decision claiming rupert murdoch is unfit to lead their company. the report claims murdoch andly other news corps execs misled parliament about the scandal. five lawmakers backed the findings. four opposed it and the chair did not vote. in testimony last week, murdoch insisted he was unaware of phone hack was widespread at the newspaper and his goal has all been to tell truth to the public. he's the chairman and ceo of news corps, which owns the paper and is the parent company of fox news. news corporation says it is reviewing the report. u.s. defense official confirming to fox news that the u.s. military has underreported the number of attacks on american soldiers by afghan troops and police. the military does report when an american soldier is killed by an afghan, but the official

admitting there are discrepancies about when soldiers are actually wound or avoid being hit. the official says the pentagon was not trying to mislead the public and is trying to fix the discrepancy. there has been a drastic rise recently in afghan troops attacking american soldiers. what happened to a plain old piggy back ride? a florida couple facing criminal charges after putting their 7-year-old granddaughter in a toy car and towing her behind their suv. 47-year-old belinda was in the passenger seat as her husband drove at 5 miles per hour. she said it steamed like a great idea after a couple of trips. >> steve: oh, no. >> sunday afternoon, i had a few beers, no big teal. i didn't think -- she was all woo, woo, woo, the whole time anyway. >> gretchen: oopsy. her husband is still behind bars, accused of child endangerment, dui and driving with a suspended license. belinda is on supervised reloose

and mott allowed to drink or see her granddaughter until police say it's okay. those are your headlines. >> steve: that changes the story a little bit. >> gretchen: my kids have one of those cars and i make them wear helmets. when it's not being towed. >> brian: you do not tow your children? >> steve: and they're not on the street. >> gretchen: i would not think of that and i don't like beer. >> steve: four minutes after the top of the hour. the world marking the one year anniversary of the raid that killed osama bin laden. details more thanking on some of the attack the leader was planning. more from pakistan in. >> you join me amid a storm breaking out. weather very different today, adding a somber tone to the world mark this event on the night that the blackhawks came in with the navy seals aboard. it was clear skies which enabled them to conduct that operation. behind me is the site where it all took place. now demolished by the pakistan

authorities as they really try to forget an event that very much shamed the nation. just two months ago, this was actually all removed and a few days ago, blinden' three wives and the eight children they had here, lived here with bin laden were actually deported out of the country. this country tries put a dark chapter very much behind it, guys. >> gretchen: dominique, we hear bin laden never stopped plotting attacks while he lived there. what new information can you tell us about the plans that he was hatching when he was there? >> steve: i think we're having a problem with our pakistan satellite. >> brian: i feel better now that it just doesn't happen to me. >> gretchen: when i ask a question? >> brian: yeah. go ahead. try this one. >> steve: he mentioned at the beginning there was a storm, so i'm going to credit it. >> brian: how about this? try this one.

>> steve: all right. let's deal in laura ingraham. come on out. over. look this way. look toward the light, lady. >> hi, guys. >> steve: good morning. >> how are you? i'm occupying "fox & friends" today. i'm on it. >> steve: good morning to you. >> shut down all work, shut down all thinking. no education. >> steve: this morning we're talking a little bit about it was one year ago that the navy seal team six went in there and got bin laden and we had the interrogator for the clandestine operation, jose rodriguez on the program earlier. we want you are to hear from him we talked about the operation to get him wasn't just all on this president's watch. it started with bush. action, roll tape. >> brian: can you hear us, laura? >> yeah i got you. >> let me tell you that the effort to get bin laden was a ten-year effort. it took ten years and a lot of

information was obtained from detainees start not guilty 2002 that allowed to us take down plots, to arrest other terrorists that were coming after us, to learn about the organization's structure, the leadership, their methods of attack, their program, their nuclear program, their anthrax program. so the key that was obtained, information that was obtained was key. >> steve: the information -- and this president says north texas contact run them. >> when you watch that interview examine listen to him, listen carefully, he is painting a very sober picture of how difficult it is to unravel all of these different strands, from courier that come in to deliver tapes from bin laden who are -- you don't know who they are.

finally get somebody in custody. he gives you a first name, but it's not accurate. then subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques perhaps. you get a little bit more information. this is an incredibly complex, difficult and pain-staking process and so for people to be spiking the football or celebrating bin laden's death, i hope that what we really do is credit the men and women who are responsible for all of these breaktruce over the last decade, including president bush. >> brian: what you get in this book is everyone becomes holier than thou, we don't do this, we don't do that. when you see how hard these men and women, how hard they've been working behind the scenes trying to put this puzzle together and they almost all end up under investigation! >> how demoralizing. it is the most demoralize thing to imagine, right? you think your government, as mr. rodriguez told you, has your

back, that it's going to be there to support you because you're compromising your family's security every day, you're away from them. your life is in danger and you're doing the best you can under directive, by the way, of the u.s. government and procedures that were green lighted by the justice department, and pretty much all you get for it years later is a bunch of grief and demonization. in fact, you're called the war criminal. that's an amazing journey we've taken these men examine women on and it's despicable. >> gretchen: last year they decided to drop those investigations. talking about knowing about what was going on and legal at the time. nancy pelosi, speaker of the house, in 2009, she said this about knowing about enhanced interrogation techniques. >> we were not -- i repeat, not told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation methods were used. >> brian: here is what rodriguez said about pelosi.

listen. >> well, i personally was the person who went to the congress in september 2002 and briefed her on the interrogation and the techniques we had used, which included water wording. >> steve: in 2002 you told her about water boarding? >> yes. >> steve: she just said in 2002, never heard about it. >> they don't have to take my word. there is documentation. >> steve: rewriting history perhaps? >> a little information on this, extra information. a good friend of mine was actually responsible for writing the protocols for the briefing of congress several years ago this happened. part of the protocols that were written at the c.i.a. included notating when participants in meetings in congress left the room. let's say they had to go to the bathroom and they had to take a call and they had to leave the room. not only was the attendance taken, but any time they left, that was also noted, the time

and time they returned. so that information, as mr. rod guess hinted on, is recorded. that's part of c.i.a. protocol. so either she was literally sleeping or she left the room and it's notated. i have a feeling that mr. rodriguez would have remembered if the speak of the house at the time or senior female in the house had left the room during the briefing. that's all part of the record. he looked very confident that he knew that she hadn't left the room. >> steve: particularly him because he was very good at documenting -- >> he was a guy. >> steve: i got authorization to do all this stuff. so if the speaker leaves, he's going to think, all right. i'll wait until she comes back. >> it's all part of the record. it's all part of the official record. >> gretchen: let's move to another topic, china. some people are asking is it ad about thing when america has to beg communist china for help. what do you make of it? >> we need help with iran. we need help with north korea. the problem is, of course, china has been assisting both iran and north korea in different ways.

remember when dissidents leave north korea, they make their way into china. guess what their fate is almost always there. they're returned to certain death in north korea. not only are we trying to stop the nuclearization, further nuclearization of iran, we know china has been instrument app in helping them with different technologies and that puts us in an incredibly difficult and compromised position. but as we're seeing with mr. chen, we have fewer options now because of america's declined economic state with china. we have fewer options in dealing with him examine trying to get him out of the country, which i imagine is not going to happen any time soon. >> brian: people should know him, he managed to, although being blind, sneak out of house arrest to get over to our embassy where he's being held. he's proceed testing against forced abortion and sterilization programs. >> let's hope it's not a case of the blind leading the blind here, that we can see the

importance of standing up for freedom and liberty for all those who are held in bondage around the world, how we handle this is going to be a profound signal to them. >> steve: absolutely. of particular interest of what is the government of china doing with his family. laura, all a pleasure. we thank you very much for getting up and joining us here on may day. >> thank you. >> gretchen: coming up, mf global went belly up with with $1.6 billion in customer cash. why is jon corzine getting off apparently scott free? are politicians giving him a pass? would average americans get the same treatment? that's a question for charlie who weighs in next. >> brian: plus, forget reading, writing and arithmetic. a teacher busted letting kids get their kicks watching "the karate kid." she popped in movies and did something else.

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>> gretchen: one of the most investigated scandals in recent wall street history, so why is no one being held accountable in the collapse of mf global. our next guest says it may have to do with the fact that jon corzine is one of president obama's so-called money men. >> steve: charlie gasperino joins us now. that's got to be a coincidence. democrat and the president, one of his top bundlers. >> his gambleing. what's interesting is how brazen he is. he's still raising money for him. we should point out the president gave back personal money. but not the bundler money. listen, what i reported on yet,

i wrote a column yesterday. people are asking where are the charges? it seems so clear cut. $1.6 billion of money is missing from customer accounts. apparently not supposed to be missing. the front line regulator, terry duffy, basically it's said illegal. he said it again yesterday. yet there are no charges. i said look, at these conflict of interest, the heads of just about every major agency investigating this had been either appointed by president obama or in the case of the f.b.i., robert mueller, people talk about him being on the short list to replace eric holder if there is a second obama term. i mean, there is a huge conflict of interest here. i should also point out i believe that people on the ground at these agencies, the law enforcement officials, good guys, want to do the right things, but i know how cases are made. they're made at the bottom. they're approved at the top. >> brian: so jon corzine was using customer money to pay off loans. correct? >> that's what happened here.

it was a huge mess at the end of the -- during mf global's final days. but that mess was not supposed to happen. you're supposed to have the controls in place. basically, according to the head of the cme, front line regulator, mf global was a commodity exchange. by the way, that customer money -- >> steve: that was used by farmers. >> gretchen: when would we expect any impending charges? we remember when jon corzine was on capitol hill at the hearing testifying. >> right. there is lots of e-mails and there is a potential witness they're looking to that's basically asking for complete immunity. that's where this gets held up. the f.b.i. is kind of balking at complete immunity. a lot of people on the ground are saying just give it to her. >> steve: hypothetical question, if jon corzine were a republican, do you think there would have been charges? >> i think by now. does anybody really think there is going to be job charges against this guy before the election?

as close as he was to the president, do you remember the comments the president made about jon corzine. >> brian: he was going to be treasury secretary! >> absolutely. this guy helped advise me on the stimulus pack annual. he's a straight shooter. i'm just saying, he's a straight shooter, president obama called jon corzine. if you saw him in his testimony in congress, didn't sound like straight shooter. basically sounded like he didn't know what was going on. >> gretchen: we'll check you out on the "fox business" network. coming up next, the unemployment story that no one else is talking about. our troops are the best educated force ever assembled, buttery not being hired at home. a former marine says they did their duty. now companies should do theirs. >> brian: remember solyndra that went belly up? accused of yet another bad deed. this one could really make you sick, literally.

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>> steve: quick headlines. the wife of an ex aide to john edwards expected to take the stand today. sherry young testified that the former presidential candidate asked her husband to claim paternity of his mistress. she also testified edwards knew about the campaign money used to help hide his lover, reel hunter. scandal plagued solar company solyndra not so green after all. reports say the company may be trying to abandon a toxic waste at the facility. a clean-up is stalled because the company doesn't want to pay. the building's owner says there are serious health and safety

issues, though there at solyndra. brian? , gretch >> brian: our brave men and women who return home face a different battle, the struggle to find work, to get a job. for veterans ages 24 and under, the unemployment rate over the past year is 29.1%. 12 points higher than for civilians the same age. >> gretchen: major owen west is a former leader of a team in iraq and says vets are the first place companies should be looking when hiring. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> gretchen: what are the main qualities veterans bring to jobs? >> i think what people tonight understand is they understand the battle ground is a great proving ground. what they don't hear is that the battlefield, today's battlefield, which is decentralized, is a great training ground.

actually if you look at why we hire as corporation, we've always looked to colleges and really you don't hire a kid out of a liberal arts who has got an art history background with a 3.5 because of the subject. you hire him because the college has acted as a vetting or screen. today's military is doing the same thing. the military is the best educated force we've ever had. so i think basically it's replacing college slowly as a vetting tool. >> brian: an 9-11, you go back in after serving in the marines, you go back in twice. you get what the military brings. when you talk to recruiters what, do they say? what are they naive about? >> it's difficult to translate some of the skills you get on the battlefield to a resume. a young machine gunner who served two tours in afghanistan, when you look at a machine gunner, you begin -- >> brian: what do you do with that? >> really what goes unsaid is that there has been a lot of

decentralized team based decision making. the misconception is that military folks are drone. they're reliable, they'll show up on time and do their work. the reality is that you've got to be very, very creative to be an nco or officer in today's military. you're selling from the very first day. >> gretchen: does it have to do with the fact that firms don't think that they have a college education? is it that? >> i think that's part hee through. i think, again, we're stuck in a motto we used for 50 years, which is we hire college educated folks for certain jobs and then we look at trades and other things for folks who don't have college. that's just not the case anymore. >> brian: what are you urging people watching right now do, whether they're look for a job or possibly look to hire? >> as veteran, we take care of our own. so i think first thing is you've got to install some kind of veterans hiring program where the internal veterans are walking points. they can act as translators to

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bacharach write? >> steve: this was the title song. >> brian: "i'll never fall in love again." >> gretchen: somebody fed that to you. >> brian: no, it just came to me. like steve got the word scramble. >> steve: we put that up because it's rain not guilty new york city where the occupiers have not shown up yet to occupy. >> gretchen: just wait. >> brian: do they have a rain date to not do anything? if your goal is to not do anything, what happens when it's raining? >> steve: apparently there is none because they were supposed to do it on may 1. >> gretchen: they already did a lot of their stuff 'cause they sent white powder in envelopes to mayor bloomberg and to other corporations, namely banks. turned out nothing wrong with the white powder, but elements disruptive. >> steve: it was cornstarch. so those people could make gravy if they needed to. >> gretchen: let's talk about this. president obama's campaign team, the guy was just here about ten days ago. i interviewed him, asked him what is going to be the slogan for president obama moving forward. look, i said one of the words. at the time he said we haven't decided yet.

it's not going to be hope examine change. it's going to be one word. forward. do you think that will be effective for 2012? >> brian: let's see how it's going for msnbcr. they using that? it's very unusual. win the future. they tried that. it didn't test well. america built to last. they tried that. didn't go well, i questions. >> steve: so the whole idea is to look at what the president has done so far and moving forward, he would need four more years to finish the job. so let's take a look at how he's done so far. when he first took office, the national debt was 10 trillion. now we're moving forward to a much bigger number at 15.6 trillion. >> gretchen: jobless rate was 7.8%. now 8..2%. the average price of gas, 2.50 a gas. now 3.81. food stamp recipients has gotten a lot of attention. 28.22 million and now almost doubled. 46.2 million people on food stamps. >> steve: the big question how much higher will those numbers get moving forward?

that's what people are going to decide in november. >> brian: or lower. 26 minutes before the top of the hour. >> gretchen: we have a fox news alert for you now because you're looking at brand-new video from havana, cue b. thousands of people rallying on may day. let's go to moscow where protesters gathered with president medvidev. occupy wall street protesters are accused of sending the envelopes contain ago white powder to six wells fargo banks and city owned office buildings in hopes of scurrying a strike. police say they came with notes that read, quote, you have ten seconds to stop working. you are not in control and (bleep) the bank. all samples tested negative for hazardous materials. >> steve: chicago judge releasing the 911 call made by

oscar winner jennifer hudson's sister, julia after she discovered their mom had been shot to death. here is just part of that phone call. >> somebody killed my mother! >> does she need an ambulance? >> i don't know, i'm scared, please. somebody, send an blanket yes. >> steve: oh, man. that tape was played for jurors at the trial of william balfour's, her ex-husband, accused of murdering her brother and 7-year-old son as well. testimony continues later on today. >> brian: educator in new york city canceling class and showing kids a classic movie instead.

daniel larussa may have been the best around in the karate kid, but one teacher isn't. laurie shapiro canceled an eighth grade math class. the other students watched the show for an hour. why? so the teacher could tutor shapiro's son instead. it was being shown to other classes because of a workshop. the remake took place in china in 2010 and it was will smith's son. >> steve: for more on the movie, the first one versus the second, bill engvall. >> how do you do it every day? maybe the aztecs were right. maybe the world is going to come to an end. >> brian: right. they did that by stick figures on a cave. >> i watch the news and i go what? i have this feeling that the

good lord is up in heaven shaking his head going, i had it made with the monkeys. i gave them the ability to read and think and there we go. >> gretchen: there was that first mistake in the garden of eden. he learned pretty quickly that humans made a few errors. >> brian: what happened? >> gretchen: i'll tell you later. >> you think a snake talks. >> steve: all part of occupy eden. >> gretchen: let's talk about osama bin laden, the anniversary. it's hard to believe a whole year has gone by. >> it really flew by. we just got the decorations down. >> brian: it was a good day. >> actually this is really nice because i think now it's okay for me to say this, that along with the special forces, i had a part in that. >> steve: really? >> he was actually -- not a lot of people know this, but he was watching delta force, the movie larry the cable guy and i did and said for god sakes, just shoot me. there you go. >> gretchen: you're going to take credit, too.

>> why not? i would never take away from our -- what those guys and gals are amazing. >> steve: the president, of course, has it new ad out where he touts the fact that he was one that made the tough decision, although there are a number of navy seals who say, wait a minute. if you're using us for ammunition in this political thing. >> i'm a huge military supporter. i was listening to the gentleman speak about jobs and listen, in my mind, if you serve in the military, you should be given -- there ought to be a priority. it's that easy. if you want a job, here you go. >> steve: yeah. >> gretchen: for the service they've given. >> yeah, you think? >> brian: how are you taking on unemployment? >> i was looking at the figures and it's going up. i have a simple solution, tell businesses to stop using voice menus. >> brian: and hire people! >> hire people. how many times have you called

someone and they say hi, let's get started. >> steve: where you really matter. >> you're a valued customer and then you about through this whole mess and they go, let me give you with the operator. just give me at that first off! >> brian: even if they have an attitude. i would take a person with an attitude rather than a voice mail. >> i am so with you on that. >> brian: we all know what to do in leaving a message. we don't need additional instructions. >> like you call a store and they go, if you know your party's extension. if i knew that, i would have called them! >> gretchen: i did all the digital things entering, saying all the voice commands and then they fine lea connected me and said, no operators are available today. >> or one, we'll call you back. >> gretchen: yeah, right. you came in in this beautiful motorcycle and somehow it got no rain on it. i want to know how that happened >> i have a something that follows me around. it's victory bike which i'm a huge supporter of american made products and the reason i'm on a

bike is i am working with allstate because may is motorcycle awareness and safety month and i'm a bike rider myself and -- there i am on my bike. >> steve: you should have both hands on the handlebars. >> it was a quick hey, how are you doing. i was shocked to learn that every day in america, three motorcyclists are killed at intersections. so allstate came to me, because i was with my sign, and they are doing -- and i'm helping them along, is if they go to facebook and just search allstate motorcycle -- >> brian: there is the sign. >> watch for motorcycles. we need more of those. what they've done, allstate has, in conjunction with the top 30 in the country, found the most dangerous intersections because 40% of all accidents involving motorcycles happen at intersections. we've got a new phrase, look twice 'cause once is not enough. you can go to facebook and search allstate motorcycle, take the pledge to tell one other person to look twice and

allstate will donate a dollar for every new sign to be put up and hopefully we can make the road safer for everybody. not to alienate motorcyclists. everybody needs to ride responsibly. i'm actually a better driver on my bike than any car because i'm aware of what's going on. >> gretchen: exit question, who will look better on the bike, steve or brian? >> brian: or the girl? >> that's going to be the obvious choice. >> gretchen: the skirt is a bit of a problem. >> if we put steve in a leather jacket and hat. >> steve: again? i can only dream. >> gretchen: great to see you. >> steve: straight ahead, the occupy protesters hitting the streets as we speak with one of their most damaging campaigns yet perhaps. trying to bring businesses to a screeching halt on this may day. peter johnson, jr. says it might just work. >> gretchen: he's been nominated for an academy award and now his new role has him fighting for

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>> good morning. >> steve: we should point out that right now, even though they're trying to stop business, stop people from going to school, nothing is really happening in new york city. you would have to travel to havana, cuba to see where the people -- cubans are celebrating may day. that's what the occupiers want to happen here. >> unfortunately, it appears to be true. based upon their own statements. what they're saying is, on this date, no work, no school, don't bank, don't buy. close bridges down. we know in the past they closed down the oakland port. we know there was violence in oakland and other cities and we know there is violence here in new york city. so a lot of people and a lot of the people i work with say, oh, my god. are these people going to ruin our commute again? >> steve: you work in the wall street area. >> yeah. get to go work. are we going to have to jostle things? are people going to have to drag their kids through crowds to get to school? we interviewed someone a few months ago on that, horrific

experience for the child. so we said, okay, it's a balancing test. it's the first amendment. it's why we're the greatest country in the world. but you say, how could so many bone headed people get it so wrong for so long and why are they out there today? so there are people that have real reasons. they say, i'm upset, i'm resentful. i don't have a job. i can understand that. i want to protest. i want to make my voice heard. but also we have anarchist, we have people who want to too harm to our capitalistic system and really harm our democracy in a lot of ways. shutting conscientious down is not part of democracy. that's not democracy. >> steve: what they're doing is stopping the 99% electric get to go work 'cause those people are not unamerican. and once upon a time, they had cover from the political left, but for the most part they have abandoned part. >> the anarchists are the people you were talking about. people have a right to protest. but at the same time, we're cognizant that we're coming up

on the year anniversary of the killing of osama bin laden. that's something that generates a lot of tension throughout the world. our police department in new york city and other cities are on high alert as a result of it. we hear a new report about body bombs from al-qaeda, going on airplanes. so the problem that i have is. >> a tremendous distraction for the people that are supposed to protect us when we had these diverse groups across the city on 2008er and facebook breaking off and saying, we're going to make it hell today. we don't need hell today. we need a good, stable, strong, quiet, safe legal protest if they want to do it. i think they're wasting their time in a lot of respects. >> steve: if you're going to do it, be legal. >> is it going to run up for the general election? is it a tryout for getting some of the folks out? some would say so. >> steve: we'll be watching. peter, good luck get to go work today. from the greedy billionaire in

oceans 11 to the suave mobster during his godfather's days. he's guaranteed hits. but will his new role hold true for his new role in faith. >> you just pointed out it's may day. anything can happen of the may 1. republicans charge eric holder has become more partson. is that true? how deep do the politics run in the epa? new polling numbers show a very interesting presidential race. we'll tell you why. and will you be allowed to buy medication without a prescription? martha and i will see new ten short minutes here on "america's newsroom"

>> gretchen: welcome back. you know andy garcia for his

roles in "the godfather" and "oceans 11". his newest story tells mexico's fight for religious freedom. >> the war is coming to an end very soon. >> are you here to concede? >> if you lose this war -- >> we're not going to lose this war. >> we're going to send a message! >> steve: all right! joining us now is the star of the upcoming film "for greater gloriy," academy award winning actor and musician -- >> something like that. >> steve: appearedy garcia. now this looks fantastic. >> thank you. we're very proud of the film. >> brian: and you're playing a guy that is searching for religion or is fighting to get it out? >> in a nutshell, the mexican government under the presidency

of cayenne, curtailed religious freedom in the 1920s and there was a rebellion, civil war, it's a true story. that's been sort of taboo for many years. you ask a lot of the mexican americans or mexicans about the war, they go, we don't know too much about it. it's been kind of like, let's not talk about this. a lot of people died. >> brian: 90,000 died in three years. >> yeah, a lot of people. brutally, hanging from telegraph poles. >> gretchen: the role you play is the person who wants to keep religion out? >> no, no. i play an ex general that fought against zapata in the revolution he was known to be not really a man of faith, sort of atheist and he gets recruited by the army which are the people fighting for freedom, which is a band of guerrilla armies that served in the country to lead the rebellion. they're basically paying him. they're saying, we're hiring you. he decides to join the cause not because he was religious, but more like, i believe in their right to be religious. >> brian: could i say one thing?

how are you in accepting criticism? >> what time is it? >> brian: i think you should have got a hotter co-star. eva longoria, not at that attractive. come on. >> steve: she's your wife? >> she plays my wife who is actually very religious in the movie and she actually encourages me to go. >> steve: are you a religious guy? >> i was raised catholic. but you don't have to be catholic to be in the movie. >> brian: right. you're not about to ask that. >> it's a universal movie. it's a classical story. it looks like a dr. zhivago. beautifully shot, large scope. >> steve: no snow. >> brian: when you see a movie that size, i wonder how you get a sense of the movie because i have not been allowed to get into acting because i have no talent. we'll be back in a couple of minutes. okay? >> it's a good thing wake up!

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