and please always remember that the spin stops right here because we are are definitely looking out for you. >> sean: as americans mark the first anniversary of the day that the world's most wanted terrorist was killed, the president embarked on an unannounced trip to afghanistan and he addressed the nation just a short time ago. watch this. >> 10 years ago, the united states and our allies went to war to make sure that al qaeda could never again use this country to launch attacks against us. despite initial success, for a number of reasons, this war has taken longer than most anticipated. in 20 02, osama bin laden and his lieutenants established safe haven across the bordener

pakistan. america spent nearly 8 years fighting a different war in iraq. and al al qaeda's extremist alls have waged a brutal insurgency. but over the last 3 years, the tide has turned. we broke the taliban's momentum. we built strong afghan security forces. we devastated al qaeda's leadership, taking out over 20 of their top 30 leaders. one year ago, from a base here in afghanistan, our troops launched the operation that killed osama bin laden. >> sean: here with reaction to the surprise presidential trip, a former bush adviser, karl rove. welcome back, sir. >> thank you, sean. thanks for having me. >> sean: i don't have a problem with the president going to afghanistan. i don't want to talk about his -- his trip in terms of politics. but his ad about romney and bin laden is very troublesome to me, especially if we remember a year ago, the president said this

about spiking the football. >> we don't trot out this stuff as trophies. you know, the fact of the matter is, this is somebody who was deserving of the justice that he received. and i think americans and people around the world are glad that he's gone. but, but we don't need to spike the football. >> sean: what's your reaction to that ad, that attacks romney, saying he wouldn't make the decision to get bin laden? is that spiking the football? >> oh, yeah, absolutely. in fact, it's a bad mistake for the obama campaign, if you want to put it in a political sphere, it's a dumb move. first of all, who believes that? in fact, romney had the best enjoinder saying, even jimmy carter would have made that decision. second of all, it's so over the top that it takes the president and moves him from being in the frame of a statesman who made an important decision, to being a guy who is using that decision to score political points, which

makes him smaller. why they did it is beyond me. dana perino had a really good observation. she said, don't underestimate the ability of the chicago crowd to overdo t. they overdid it in this instance. >> sean: i made the same observation on radio. i agree with both of you here. let's talk about the president. i have said from the beginning, i give the president credit for making that call. first, we have to give all praise to the seal team 6 that got in there, they put their lives at risk, they did the job they were asked to do. but i have always said that if president obama had his way, by opposing rendition and black ops and enhanced interrogation and gitmo, if he had his way on these things, we wouldn't have gotten the intelligence. i will play two songs back to back, one is where the president called waterboarding torture and i want to show an interview of

the official who led the enhanced interrogation. i don't think this day would have happened if barack obama had his way on these important issues. >> waterboarding is torture. it's contrary to america's traditions. it is contrary to our ideal, it is not who we are and how we operate. we don't need it to prosthe -- prosecute the war on terrorism. and we did the right thing by ending that practice. if we want to lead around the world, part of our leadership is set egg good example. and anybody who was actually read about and understands the practice of waterboarding would say that that is torture. that's not something we do. period. >> sean: so you don't think we

would have gotten bin laden without the techniques leading to the intelligence. >> well, the reason why is there is a clear trail. there was someone that we captured, a facilitator we captured in 2004 that, told us about bin laden's courier and gave us a pseudonym. >> sean: and that led to osama bin laden. >> we got the true name. but without the techniques -- the things he opposed wouldn't have allowed him to make that decision? >> that's a fair statement. >> sean: isn't this an important part of the discussion, that he opposed the very intelligence gathering methods that led to bin laden for him to make that decision? nobody seems to want to talk about this? >> i love the supercilious, condescending tone. i have read the memos about waterboarding and they are not torture. so did a lot of lawyer and it is justice department and the defense department and the state department. i love how it's such a clear

call. you are right. let's step back and take a look at it. this last week has been about president obottom ahotdogs decision and how he had such courage to stand up to vice-president biden's suggestion that we ought to remove bin laden, dropping precision-guided emissions from 40,000 feet. this was a great, courageous act that he stood up to his own vice-president and said, no, i am going to order in the seal team. what we have not talked about and spent far too little time othe intelligence operatives whose hard work over years helped us track down osama bin laden. the asset wiese had in pakistan and elsewhere, who helped the united states find this brutal killer. the seal team, the pilots, all of those who planned and executed this mission have sort of gone back into the shadows as president obama's put a big colleague light on -- light on himself to play partisan politics and say, romney wouldn't have taken out osama bin laden.

i'm the only guy who would have. please! >> sean: rodriguez was on the show, he is the one that led the enhanced interrogation. he knows. he was there! he saw them. khalid sheikh mohammed. they deny that this is true. but defense secretary panetta admitted it in an interview on nbc. one last tape. >> are you denying that waterboarding was, in part, among the tactics used to extract the intelligence that led to this successful mission? >> no, i think some of the detainees clearly were, you know, they used these enhanced interrogation techniques against some of these detainees. >> final point, one final time, enhanced interrogation techniques, which has always think about a handy euphemism in the post9/11 years, that includes waterboarding? >> that's correct. >> sean: mr. rodriguez confirmed that they led to the nickname of the courier, which led to the

tracking down of the person who was communicating with bin laden, directly. >> we have heard this from the director of the ciarks the guy who greenlighted this massive operation to go and take this tiny little bit of information and spend god knows how much money in order to track it to its end, which was bin laden hiding. we have heard this from mike casey who was there during this thyme frame. look. >>. i know the president doesn't want to give credit to anybody but his own brilliance. but this effort, a year ago that culminated in the death of osama bin laden was the work two of administrations and thousands of people, led by mr. rodriguez and the unnamed heroes of seal team 6 who, took him out. we ought to give credit to the cia and our allies and our intelligence agencies and our military, and particularly the navy seals who were at the tip of the spear of the operation. the president would make himself look bigger if he made them look bigger, giving them the credit that's due to you?

i agree with you. i think the president has over played their hand. it seems like they are running on two thing it's one, the killing of bin laden and the auto bailout. have you other issues that will come up. i know you brought your trusty whiteboard. >> thru go. i listened to the president's speech. there were five big points. the president said the afghans are going to be in charge of fighting the taliban by next year. li hope so. the second problem is he said, we are going to withdraw u.s. troops. we will have a responsible end. we need to keep the flexibility that if the afghans are not able to take on everything, we have combat presence there. i am deeply worried. i talked to people who are deeply concerned that we are withdrawing too many people, too quick sleet and security gains in the southwest will be jeopardized and we won't be able to do the same kind of efforts in the east against the taliban and the al qaeda. and the president himself acknowledged that the taliban

are brutal allies. he talked about long-term cooperation. but he's very vague. and the president bol uxed the status of forces agreement and shouldn't give us great confidence and negotiating with the taliban? we are negotiating with people who -- who brought bin laden in and what reason do they have to negotiate with him isn't president said, we're outta here. >> sean: first of all, meeting with the taliban, the president's confidence in this is abouta reassuring as his confidence in the arab spring and the democracy of the muslim brotherhood and karzai was demanding $2 billion from the united states a year. meanwhile, kick and trashing u.s. troops that had liberated the country. >> yeah. that's because the president's mismanaged a contentious relationship. there is blame on both sides. the president -- he went months and months without direct intersection with karzai and

publicly criticized him, which is not the way you go about guiding a guy along the right path. it's a way to get his back up and do the things that karzai's been doing. lots of blame on both sides, so i worry about the president saying he will be able to arrive at a long-term agreement. he didn't arrive with the iraqis and he placed conditions on the agreement that were possible for the iraqis to agree to, particularly that they had to give parliamentary approval for status with iraq. he will be -- i have grave doubts about his ability to negotiate this agreement as well. >> sean: all right, karl rove, great to see you as well. >> thanks, sean. >> sean: president obama's re-election machine picked up a campaign slogan. but they vey hard time selling it. later, he's back. later, he's back. herman cain is here tonight oni front of you here. let's start with car insurance x. four million people switched to that car insurance alone just last year.

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>> sean: since take office in 200 19, president obama has given us a lot of change, but not too much hope, making it very hard for his re-election spin machine to come up with a catchy slogan to steamroll the voters with, but the wait is over. in order to cover up the failed policy, they have chosen one word. they stole it from ms-nbc -- forward. to help tout the president's so-called accomplishments, they have released a 7-minute, mundane, boring campaign video. in it, believe it or not, they

took a shot at little old me. >> instead of working together to lift america up, republicans are waging a campaign to tear the approximate president down. >> virtually every republican has decided to just say no to anything the president proposes. >> put me in the no column. >> vote no. [music playing] >> sean: he did all that? joining me now to help fact check the video from the fox business new york, stuart varny

and dana perino. let's look at the gas price when is he took office. gas prices, average initially, $1.84 a gallon. well, now, the average price is $3.80 a gallon. is that a success? >> no, obviously not. and he has had nothing to do with bringing the gas price down the last few days. he has everything to do with pushing it up-- wait a minute. all of that success he was touting touting there about renewable energy -- >> that's all have you? that's the record? >> sean: that's it. >> there are huge holes and the scroll up the screen -- >> the music is terrible. the music is really bad. they have got to do something about finding -- go on pandora or something. the other thing on the energy piece is that u.s. oil production is at a high in 8 years. okay, they haven't claim credit for that. >> private enterprise. >> sean: north dakota is all private land. >> let's go to the next one.

you are going on love this one. this is about the national debt. now, when he took office, the national debt was $10.6 trillion. we're april 30, 2012, $15.7 trillion. 5-plus, trillion-dollar debt. >> he is the $5 trillion man. he is the first president to raise our debt by $5 trillion. come election day, it will be a $6 trillion more in four years. >> sean: he called your former boss, george bush, unpatriotic and irresponsible, using a credit card, borrowing from the bank of china -- in the name of our kids and grandkids. his words. >> he is not held public for anything he has said. in mrs. laura bush's book, "spoken from the heart," she has a line and she said, i wonder if now, they would like to amend

their word it's. >> sean: i doubt it. >> the real crime, the debt has gone up and the one thing he could have done and gotten bipartisan buy-in, was the reform of our entitlements. >> what do we have? an extra $5 trillion of debt. what have you got in return? 8% unemployment. slow growth. >> sean: wait a minute. has he created a net job since he has become president? how many hundreds of thousands of jobs -- a net loss? >> in the millions. we have not got the same number of people working now-- a million less people working. >> more than a million. >> sean: listen to what he said, if he doesn't get the job done, it's a one-term proposition. his own words after he became president. >> i will be held accountable. i have four years. >> that's right. >> you know, a year from now, i think people are going to see that we are starting to make some progress. but there is going to be some pain out there.

if i don't have this done in three years, there is going to be a one-term proposition. >> sean: is it a one-term proposition? >> i believe so. one of the things that people are recognizing is that part of this unemployment issue is people have dropped out because they are so discouraged, they are giving up and that is not factored inform but voters know that. >> sean: stuart? >> yes. i think so. >> sean: let's go to his promises, now that we put together a promise montage, like the promises in 2008 and 2009. did he keep the promises? we'll let you decide. >> we are going to emphasize prevention so that we save money and improve health of every american. we are not going to wait 20 years from now to do it, or 10 years from now to do t. we will do it by the end of my first term as president of the united states. i held a fiscal summit and pledged to cut the deficit in half by the end of my first term in office. >> we provide the profits

whereby guantanamo will be closed no later than 1 year from now. comprehensive immigration reform, once and for all. they need -- we can't wait 20 years from now to do t. we can't wait 10 years from now to do t. we need to do it by the end of my first term as president of the united states of america! >> every single one. >> it did not work. >> it didn't work. if they are held to their own standard i. don't you start. >> sean: spot of tea. go ahead. >> on the flexibility piece -- give me another -- to me, that was a lot more than just the missile defense issue. that was a broader thing that all of those things he is talking about he would like to do in a second term. >> sean: last question. does the romney attack work or backfire?

>> backfire, big time. >> oh, it has backfired. >> but romney should not be provoked and they were smart to step back and let the president have his moment. >> sean: if somebody's going to jump off the cliff. >> we don't understand the degree of frustration in america over the last 3 years. >> sean: good to see you. >> thank you. thank you for having us. [peeking with british accent] >> sean: herman cain is here to talk about how he will get america back on track. he has been targeted for assassination because he has taken on radical islam, sitting down with a rare studio interview.

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>> sean: president obama wants to you believe that when he says something, he means it. don't believe me? take a look. >> i just recommend that everybody take a look at people's previous statements. i assume that people... meant what they said when they said it. that's been at least my practice. >> sean: as we just showed and have discovered over the last three years, that's want exactly true. after all, this is the president who said that his economic plan would lift the middle class here in america to new heights. and he slammed his predecessor when it was reported that the median income for the middle

class, held by $2,000 in the bush years and according to bloomberg, that number has plummeted to over $4,000, thanks to the obama administration. in other words, the president is not exactly doing what he promised. joining us to share his vision for how to save america, herman cain. his new book, 9-9-9, an army of davids, is out today. >> thank you, sean. >> sean: first of all, what did you think of the cheap shot he took at rom room over the issue of bin laden? >> it was a cheap shot, just like you said. s that unfortunate. the american people expect more of their leaders. look, we know that politics comes into play. but when you take cheap shot after cheap shot, more of the american people wake up to the fact. the only way we are ever going to get this economy going, starts with one fundamental principle -- throw out the current tax code so that obama

and the politicians can't play favorites. this is why i wrote the book 9-9-9, an army of davids because we are up against big government goliath. that's the only way we are going to turn this around. >> sean: all right. are you confident -- mitt romney's not going to object nominee. newt gingrich is sent out the video today that she's going to suspend his campaign. so it's romney's. are you confident that mitt romney is going to be bold enough in his plan, maybe not exactly 9-9-9, that was your plan. but is he going to be bold enough in changing the tax code and doing the things that are necessary to help the bleeding in terms of the budgets and plug up the hole of the ship so he can start bailing out. >> yes, i am, sean. as a matter of fact, i met personal wemitt romney a week ago today, along with his chief of staff and my chief of staff. let me tell you my impression. number 1, mitt romney listens. he is open to suggestions.

of course, i suggested some very bold things and he didn't immediately embrace it. but at least, he was open to it. secondly, he realizes that now that he's the presumptive nominee, he has to do some healing. there are some thins that he's planning to do in order to bring about the healing. but, yes, i believe that mitt romney will be bold enough to do mystery things that need to be done. but more importantly, there are a number of decisions that obama made that we know mitt romney would not make. and that's what i want people to stay focused on. >> sean: when you say healing, i just heard these rumblings here and there. i have heard that he is reaching out to all of the other candidates and he is calling out for a unity tour. is that something that might happen? all of the republican primary candidates getting together? >> yes. he is planning to do some unity things, such as not just a unity tour and dinner. but he's also open to some of

the ideas that the other republican primary candidates put on the table. >> sean: whoa, whoa. when was the unity dinner? can you get me a ticket? >> we haven't formalized it yet. i will make sure that you get an invitation. that's still in the works. okay? he is very serious about reaching out, not only to the other candidates, but to all the citizen activists that are out there. we know that there is a lot of healing that needs to be done because this primary campaign was so negative, there was so much attacks. he is ready now to provide the leadership necessary to try to bring the republican party and the conservatives together? >> the biggest message huin your campaign was the 9-9-9 plan. i came out with this book. when you say reform the tax code, do you think there is the will in washington to really fundamentally restructure the tax code? i mean, half of americans don't pay federal income tax. that's almost a voting majority.

do you really think that the politicians are willing to put their careers on the line and do the right thing? >> not without the will of the people with a massive activist grassroots movement from the bottoms up. this is why i wrote the book, 9-9-9, an army of davids. if we get enough preserve pressure -- pressure on them. they will. they won't do it willingly. the former senator eric dirkson said it best, when they feel the heat, they will see the light. we the people have to be the heat. this is why i published 9-9-9, an army of davids because we have to take on goliath, which means putting the heat on the people that are in washington, d.c. and those that are going to get elected in the new congress. >> sean: all right. herman cain, always good to see you. coming up, you will meet a man that islamic terrorists have targeted for assassination. he will join us in an exclusive

"hannity" coming up next. gear wilders will sit down for a rare in-studio interview. don't miss that. and special topics tonight on and special topics tonight on our great, great, great what's withou?

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>> our many liberties is under attack, all through the europe. free speech is no longer a given. what we once considered a natural element of our existence, our birth right, is now something we once again have to fight for. i will personally not qualify myself in that fight as a free man anymore. five years ago, i lost my personal freedom and since then, i am under 24-hour police protection because of all the threats i get because of everything i say. >> sean: that was a dutch

politician and activist, gear wilders being a controversial voice against radical islam, who for almost a decade has been living with assassination threats and unable to go anywhere without 24-hour protection. he has a new book, marked for death, islam's war against the west and me. very nice to me you. >> privileged to be on your show. >> sean: your security literally has had to come in and out of this building many, many times prior to your being here. you are marked for death because of your statements on islam. >> yes. very true. i am an elected politician from the netherlands and because i speak the truth about the islam, i am marked for death. i am banned from many countries in the world. i have been taken to criminal court for 3 years, luckily acquitted on all charges, but nevertheless taken to court. there are many people in europe

who speak the truth about islam. we know in scandinavia and others. and the price of telling the truth about islam is that -- well, you will be marked for death, indeed. >> sean: one of the things that you support for decades now, the netherlands have welcomed foreigners, prided itself on being a multi-quote cultural society. it has one of the strictest immigration policies in the 27-member european union. and you have been particularly outspoken about this and been a leader. why? well, i know europe has changed. europe is in the process of islamization. that's why i am very proud to publish my first book, marked for death here in the united states with a forward by my friend, mark stein. and it shows that in europe, unlike america, has become almost half islamic country -- continent. and that means that everything

is not going for the better. we lose our freedom, we lose our freedom of speech. we lose the values that we share with america, based on christianity or jude aism. i believe that the biggest disease is cultural relativism, politicians are afraid to say that our own culture, our own value is far better than the islamic culture. and this is what we are fighting for. we have an enormous influx of immigrants from muslim countries and a lot of people don't feel at home any more in their own streets. they look at the moroccan youth in holland and 65% of them have been detained by the police at least once. so it's getting for the worse. we have stostand up and fight for our own identity and not accept the fact that islam at the end of the day --

[inaudible] >> sean: when salmon rushdie wrote "the satanic verses" there were fatwahs against you. you have defamed the prophet, the religion. so when you say, you are marked for death. this is reality for you. what is your life like now that you have to deal with that? >> my wife and i, for the last 8 years, haven't had the most pleasant life, when it comes to safety and security. we lived in prison cells, actually, in the same cell as one of the terrorists of the lockerbie attack in holland n. that prison cell, we have to live for security reasons for half a year. we went to army baraks. i have not been able, as an elected politician, to walk freely on the streets for almost 8 years. i cannot visit a cinema or go shopping or anything else in a normal way that other people do.

so if you criticize islam -- once again, it is not about me, but all the person who is have the guts to tell the truth about islam. then you pay a very high price. >> sean: here's my fear. i think we are living now in very dangerous times. and if there is going to be a world war iii, i think it will be the rise of radical islamists. it is frustrating to me that this president won't recognize a war on terror. they are saying it's over. they wouldn't say it. the president was so wrong on egypt eye knew that the muslim brotherhood would take over. i knew they're a terrorist group. their first actions were to declare israel an enemy and cut off their oil and gas supplies and say that the camp david accords were over. now you have israel in one case, surrounded. you see hezbollah, hamas, the islamic jihad, the muslim brotherhood and the proxy wars fought by iran, do you see -- do

you see the rise in islamic extremism around the world? and do you think this turns itself into potentially world war? >> i am afraid, i have to subscribe to everything you saismd i believe we should be in full suspect of the state of israel. israel is not only surrounded by people and countries that at the end of the day, because of the islamic doctrine wants to have israel removed from the planet. but israel is broader to us -- a brother to us in sharing the values that we have. i believe that parents in america and europe can sleep easily at night because israeli parents are really lying awake, for the security of their sons. the border of jihad, the border between the west and the barbarism of the west is the border between israel and the

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>> sean: tonight on our great, great american panel, he is founder of bond action, brotherhood organization for a new destiny, of which i am a board member. she's a columnist and fox news political analyst and a treasurer of the great state of indiana and running as a republican senate candidate in that stateue are beating richard murdoch is with us, richard luger, you are ahead in the polls by a lot. >> we are leading and looking forward to eye week from tonight. >> sean: you are a tea party candidate? >> have a lot of republican support. three quarters of the panel supported me from the day i

began. >> sean: is luger more of a liberal republican? that is a big part of this? >> absolutely. we have a great comparison. but he has moved to the left over the last few years and the people in indiana-- i agree with you. i want conservative leaders. my endorsement hurts you, i won't give it to you, which could happen. kirstin, have you to admit and agree with me -- look, the president has every right to take credit for make a pretty gutsy decision on bin laden. i said that from day 1. but the reality is, he didn't support the policies, we had jose rodriguez on the program last night. he implemented the waterboarding, enhanced interrogations of khalid sheikh mohammed. he did it. i mean, after approval from our justice department. obama did not support those policies. so without -- if obama had his way, we wouldn't have gotten the

intelligence that got bin laden, that allowed him to make that decision. this president then goes out and attacks mitt romney. he wouldn't have made the brave decision i did. isn't that dumb? >> there is a dispute over what you are saying, whether or not the intelligence was necessary. but i do agree that what he is doing isn't right. i don't normally do this and hijack you-- you are going to hiscbrak me. >> but i didn't know i was going to be sitting here with reverend peterson with and the misogynist things have you said about how women have created a shameless society and most women are littler whos and that it was okay to call sandra fluke a slut and that should you put women in powerful businesses and then you leave women alone in the family, they destroy the family -- >> i don't know if you have noticed or not, but the liberal democrat women are calling themselvesser whos. there is a so-called group of women within the democratic

party and they are -- admitting -- they are admitting that they arear whos-- are you talk about this group -- >> that's a completely different thing. >> i am okay with that, but i don't want to pay for it. if the liberal women want to have sex out of wedlock. >> you say that women are creating a shameless society and they are destroying the family and they shouldn't be put in powerful positions -- address that. women shouldn't be in powerful businesses. >> most americans know that liberal women are destroying the family. they hate men. they hate society -- >>s that is absolutely false. sean, do i hate men. >> sean: i hope not. >> sean: you started this. >> public school system -- >> you are not address whawg said. you are a pastor, distorting god's word for misogyny. what do you mean -- when you say women -- you leave a woman alone in charge of a family and she destroys the family? >> we allowed the national

organization of women who hate men -- the women in their group, we left them alone -- we left them alone -- there it is. we left them alone. look at the condition we are in today. out of wedlock -- abortion. >> sean: all right. i have to step in -- [overlapping dialogue] >> i'm telling the truth. >> sean: i gave you -- [overlapping dialogue] >> sean: this is not one of the topics that i planned on. you are hijacking the show. >> i didn't know i was going to be on with him. >> sean: why did you come in -- >> [overlapping dialogue] >>. >> you believe what you believe. >> i saw him on-- we have another guest, to be fair. let me ask you -- >> why are you upset at me? i am not upset at you. >> you are a pastor using god's word to teach misogyny. >> no. i have a responsibility to tell the truth. you are on the side of lies. why should i not be on the side of truth.

the truth is going to make us free. somebody got to tell the truth. i tell the truth. there is an order to life -- >> liberal women policies are bad for family, bad for the country. >> sean: i have to take a break. let me ask you as a candidate, what did you think of the use of the bin laden killing by the president against mitt romney? >> you know, i think it's a sad thing. i think there is something in the water at washington. when people have been there a while, they claim credit for things that don't belong to them. and others want to sit back and not saying anything about it. >> sean: he opposed the enhanced interrogation, wanted to close gitmo and jose rodriguez on this program last night said, we wouldn't have gotten the messenger of bin laden. he talked about american lives being saved. to me, he's a here oh but he is called a torturer by president

obama. >> president obama made the right decision to go in. conservatives, liberal it's doesn't matter. he made the right decision to go in. but when he is trying to take credit, it's unseamly. >> he's desperate. he can't run on his failed policies. he has to find something in order to run. >> sean: we have to take a break. more with our great, great, great american

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>> sean: are you going to stop? this has gone on the entire break? are you done? enough. i have let you have your time. you got it in. all right. the president addresses the nation tonight on the issue of afghanistan. karzai kicked our troops out of towns and areas in afghanistan. we are negotiating with the taliban, the president of the united states taliban is what he calls it. he's negotiating. we are giving mon tote muslim brotherhood. i don't understand this administration. if they are not going to allow us to do ourion, we are going to create artificial timelines and we are not going to win, pull them out now. who wants to be the last person dying in a war that we are not committed to winning? daw district attorney agree or disagree? >> i agree. peace is the result of victory. it is not something that can be easily negotiated n. green room,

sean, i was reading an email from my niece who is in afghanistan today, talking about the ramp services that are held for those who have fallen. what i see the president claiming credit, both as he did with the killing of osama bin laden and he said he wasn't going to be gloating and he wants to make a victory lap with ti think it's distasteful when the real heroes are doing their job quietly? >> i wouldn't negotiate with the taliban. president obama was dead wrong on the muslim brotherhood. i was right. he was wrong. he said that democracy was going to take place. none of this is happening now shirria law will be implemented in egypt. so the president is not committed to victory. why are we saying there -- staying there at all. e >> in i have been saying for at least a year, we should not be in afghanistan. there is no reason to be there. >> sean: it's a mistake for the president to invite the muslim brotherhood to the white house and to be negotiating with the

taliban. >> the problem -- i was in the same place with the muslim brotherhood in egypt. i have to say, at this point, the muslim brotherhood in egypt is the more moderate one, compared to-- t t their first act in parliament was to declare israel their enemy. >> i am not saying by our standards they are moderate, i am saying in egypt, it's that bad-- the leading presidential candidate is saying that the camp david accords are done. >> i think that if the american citizens should have realized that barack obama is not hard to understand where he is coming from. barack obama has the same mind-set as jeremiah wright jr. and louis farrakhan and they all hate america as it is, they want to turn it into a socialist society. they believe in the redistribution of wealth. i can't think of anything good that obama has done to build america. dubut i can tell you everything he has done to destroy america. he