you thought about tonight's show. by the way, murder was the wrong word, my mistake. good night from washington. now all of that coming up tonight. >> dana: hello. fox news alert. president obama in election year reversed his position on gay marriage. this is what he told "good morning america" robin roberts in an interview moments ago. >> for a lot of people, the word "marriage" was something that that evokes powerful traditions, religious beliefs and so forth. but i have to tell you that over the course of several years, as i talk to friends and family and neighbors, when i think abmembers of my own staff who are incredibly committed in mo gog mouse relationships, same-sex relationships who are raising

kids together. when i think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf, and yet feel constrained, even now that don't ask, don't tell is gone, because they're not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at a certain point i've just concluded that for me personally, it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that i think same-sex couples should be able to get married. >> dana: hello, everyone. i'm dana perino with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, eric bolling, the monster greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> dana: all right. big news today. but we're going to analyze it a little bit. here is the reason this is considered news. let's listen to what president obama said in 2008 when he was running for president.

>> define marriage. >> i believe that marriage is a union between a man and a woman. now for me, as a christian -- [ applause ] for me as a christian it's also a sacred union. god is in the mix. >> dana: last sunday, vice president biden was on the sunday shows and he said he personally believed in gay marriage. there was a kerfufle from the white house saying there is no difference. three days later we actually had one of our very own co-hosts, bob beckel, had this to say yesterday. he predicted something that happened today. >> bob: i think the politics of it are very good, frankly, for obama in targeted states. now where he is comes down on it, i'm not sure. in the end he'll be for it. >> dana: so bob, you had that right. to me, i think president obama put himself in a ridiculous position that he couldn't know, he could no longer go with the charade.

and so he makes this announcement today. how do you think it's playing? >> bob: first, i'm incredibly proud of the president today. he made a very difficult political call. i think in the end, a lot of people think it will hurt him. i don't think it will. people who are against gay marriage as a voting issue are a bunch, generally very conservative, tea party type of people. >> greg: c'mon! >> bob: wait. >> greg: tea party people. that never came up at a tea party event. >> bob: like tea party people. >> greg: i didn't see the subtly like that. >> bob: some people consider it to be a very strong issue and they're going to vote against it. they would have voted against it anyway. i can only say i have to compare this to mitt romney who has once again proven that he has got to be, he was for gay marriage in massachusetts. when he ran for the senate. against ted kennedy. he got hit by conservatives on the right, and then he was against it.

>> dana: wait. >> bob: it's called principles, mr. romney. >> dana: how can you say that when we just showed president obama -- is that principles? >> greg: your hero lied to the american public for the past three years. >> eric: forget three years. go back 1996. he was for gay marriage. 1998, he was undecided. 2004, 2006, very confusing if you try and read through the lines. you have can't. 2007, for it again. 2008 he was against it. '10, "evolving" and 2012 he is for it again. people of north carolina said adam and eve. president obama says adam and eve or adam and steve. what he did do more importantly, he gave north carolina, he gave virginia, probably gave indiana to mitt romney. he probably turned over 40 elocat40electoral vote. >> kimberly: this was the president's position, while he was a senator, community

organizer, when he became president and now when he is running for re-election. perhaps it was a moment of honesty. was it, you know, ill-advised at this point? it does look like he is fluctuating, shifting positions. biden jumped the shark and push him in this position. >> dana: ed henry, fox news, white house reporter, reported today that the senior administration official confirmed to him that they were actually planning to do this all along, they were going to wait until they got closer to the convention. which i think -- >> eric: is b.s.? >> dana: bad idea. smell of politics is bad. >> eric: can we call b.s. on that? you were right yesterday. i thought it was a planned effort from the white house. you said no, no way, biden slipped on that. you are 100% right. >> dana: he said it monday. >> eric: forced obama's hand to come out today, so to speak. but then they bamtrack and say we were going to talk about this before. really? c'mon. >> dana: greg, one of the first reactions you had is how does it change anything? >> greg: he used the word "personally" which is a

cop-out. it means that it's my feeling, not yours and i'm okay with that. i don't think he'd say that about interracial marriage but said it about gay marriage. i'm thrilled about what he said. now bob and i can make our love legal and we don't have to hide. we can date. thank god for that. but to me, it just means he was lying all the time. he says he was -- in that statement he was talking to his neighbors. you don't have neighbors in the white house! who is next to you! >> dana: i want to talk about earlier in week i was watching bill o'reilly who had join williams and michelle o'field on and he predicted this as well. take a listen to what bill o'reilly had to say. >> everybody knows, juan. it's a charade. >> it's evolving. >> let obama make a fool of himself. >> you know, everybody knows the charade but everybody is playing along. >> i'm not. i'm not playing along, juan. i want a straight answer. >> dana: the question really, though, kimberly is on

the legal point. there are a lot of questions. on the legal point, because there are lots of lawsuits in all the different states that are taking place right now, does president obama's announcement today change anything in those cases? >> kimberly: it won't have an impact ultimately on the outcome per se of the decision, but it is rather unusual, just like with the healthcare issue to have a sitting president then say his personal viewpoint, his desires going forward. politically this is tricky for him. is he going to get enough good will out of it? he equivocated, evolved, gymnastics moving around and now can come to this position. will it embolden and make his base more passionate? will he, in fact, with the move turn off some independents or people who were undecided? >> greg: let me make a point because you brought up the tea party thing which is disingenuous and i hate that word. what we talk about where the fear came from are black or hispanic voters that are more

conservative and more against gay marriage than most people. he was scared of losing hig base. it had nothing to do with the tea party. it had to do with the base. it wasn't -- >> bob: that is a tough political decision. i want to ask a follow-up question. states dictate marriage law. each state has their own law. you can't pass a federal law to mandate marriage guidelines, right? >> kimberly: it won't have an impact on the individual states. >> bob: indiana is gone anyway. >> eric: thank you. that was an obama 2008 state. great, thanks. >> bob: even before this issue we never thought there was a chance he'd carry that. north carolina, he has resoundly defeated yesterday. but let's remember the turn-out was 15%. i think that in virginia, the state changed demographically so much in the end it will help him. it will get him a lot of money. >> eric: help whom? >> bob: obama.

>> eric: it helps him in virginia? >> bob: northern virginia. >> dana: but turn-out may be stronger. >> eric: north carolina, can you imagine holding your national convention in north carolina and trailing, especially because now with the issue all he had to do is just keep quiet. >> dana: they realize he was in uncomfortable position. when the reporters and the media felt that you are equivocating, and that you are not telling the truth and there is a charade, they will call you out on it. so i agree from the t political stand point it smells bad. overall, bab-up, say three months from now. how are people going to feel about this? it energizes conservative and obama's base as well. >> greg: i'm not sure. i don't think people will care as much because it's basically talking about dance move in the ballroom of the titanic. we have an economy to worry about.

>> bob: how many people do you think will vote against the president because who are already decided to vote against him? >> eric: that is not a fair question to ask. take it state-by-state. >> bob: i am looking at it state-by-state. >> bob: the margin may be small, but he will win both. >> eric: if you are obama, you now use this as a way to bring hillary clinton as the vice president, rather than joe biden. >> dana: in december, i hope we play it back in december. there will be a speech by vice president obama saying i planned this all along. >> greg: by the way, biden is the most unlikely gay folk hero you will ever see. i mean he is a hero. he got obama to get up there and -- he did what was right and he spoke the truth. the problem with obama for so long the -- the lies were the problem. but now that, i mean i think

he made the right decision. but it's the way he got there that stinks. >> kimberly: biden is beneficiary of this. >> bob: biden will run in 2016. >> greg: that will be entertaining. >> dana: hopefully we're still on the air in 201 and we play back that clip, too. coming up, west virginia voters yesterday they had two choices in the democratic primary. president obama or a convicted felon that is currently behind bars. the results are in. the white house might not be very happy. please check facebook.com/thefivefnc, and like our page. send us a note. drop us a line. we'd love to hear from you. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ >> eric: welcome back. huge night in politics. three stories. we have talked about the north carolina gay marriage vote. six minutes to get the rest done. here we go. first up, contrary to beckel's

claims that the tea party is alive and kicking, kicking butt that is in indiana, where tea party backed candidate richard mourdock crushed senator dick lugar. winning the g.o.p. primary in indiana, not only winning, but winning with 20% margin. i say the tea party is relevant again. >> bob: remember in indiana the primary turnout was less than 20%. one and two. lugar had a lot of problems before the tea party. the tea party impact, and i'm not sure they were responsible for the margin. what this does do, murdoch is so far right, donnelly the democratic nominee was a congressman there now. has a fighting chance. before this, nobody would beat lugar. >> eric: dough do you agree with that? >> dana: not necessarily. i'm interested in digging through the results. i talked to a friend today, family in indiana. he told me he voted for senator lugar. and his wife voted for murdoch. i said why is that?

he said i thought, the elder statesman, guarantee we'd win a seat in indiana. but she is actually so nervous about her children's future and the debt and deficit she thought it would be better to change horses. i think that women are driving a lot of it. >> eric: i spoke to murdoch today. congratulations. people wonder if you're a partisan senator. he said for a long time it meant bipartisan was leaning over to shake hand with the democrat. i'm look for a senate that's a little more conservative. >> bob: a little? >> eric: or a lot more. >> kimberly: but murdoch used lugar's relationship with obama and was pivotal way he points it out that no longer

in touch with the grassroots. he cares about the tea party support, integral issues. that factored in. and i think it determined the outcome of the election. when i heard him speak in new york, that's what everybody resonateed about. >> eric: can i ask this? does it concern you when so many democrats, vice president biden tweeted about, you know, lamenting the loss of dick lugar. on and on and on. >> dana: they were long-time friends. >> eric: bill bradley this morning, john kerry. >> greg: who cares? >> eric: that in itself concerning? >> greg: the tea party is back. they're a little older than everybody else so they were taking a long nap, probably in the afternoon. now what we're going to see, really scary, we will see riots and the rains, the terrorist plots -- riots, the rapes, the terror it plots. oh, wait. that was the other group. >> bob: keep in mind lugar was being challenged by hig right to vote in the state.

he doesn't have residency in the state. barely won that. and he couldn't name the address on his driver's license. >> eric: lugar was making calls to democrats for votes. whatever. the demographic of the tea party exactly mirrors the demographic of the united states of america. >> bob: my gosh. >> eric: go to gallup.com -- >> dana: do we have a bet? >> eric: yeah. >> dana: can someone wear a frilly shirt? >> bob: mirrors it absolutely? wait a minute. exactly mirrors -- >> eric: yes. okay. >> greg: i wonder how al-qaeda felt about the tea party. >> eric: can we let "the five" be judge on whether or not the tea party demographic -- >> look at the demographics. >> eric: next up, want an idea of what west virginians think of president obama? look no further than last

night west virginia democrat primary where the president just barely ekeed out a win over, wait for it, convicted felon and federal inmate 11593. pictureed right there with the often maligned ponytail mullet took 40% of the vote and beat obama in ten west virginia counties. >> greg: beautiful. the judds have gone downhill. haven't put out an album, but running for office. if this was done against a republican, late night comedians would have thought it was genius. but they'll call them rednecks, that is the next step. dabs there is something important about him you need to know. >> kimberly: the pony tail? >> dana: no. not that his favorite president is richard nixon. his favorite athlete is gary

skidmore, pro-bowler. >> greg: he has a ferret on his shoulder. that is not a pony tail. >> bob: there is no state worse for obama than west virginia. this was not people who -- i could put you on the ballot against obama in the democratic primary and you'd do well. >> eric: you know why, though? >> bob: people don't like him there. >> eric: because there is a obama -- >> dana: it's jobs. go back to the great line of romney speech. it's the economy. it's still the economy. we're not stupid. >> kimberly: i can't get over the hair. look, this is significant. sign of things to come. not like people were obsessed with this millie vanillie guy running for office. sorry. >> dana: i liked them. >> kimberly: i liked them, too. that's what it is. referendum on the president right now could be problematic. >> bob: he'd probably lose state among republican voters by 40% in the primary.

>> eric: not to a convicted felon. >> dana: this is a vote against washington in general. you know what? somebody else. >> eric: you have to be admit he took ten counties. >> greg: everybody took it as a vote against obama. no, it's a vote for awesomeness. this guy was a member of federation of superheros from 1976 to 1982. >> kimberly: what was the superpower? hair growth? >> greg: just being awesome. >> dana: he deserves this. he has run in every election since 1996. >> kimberly: that is a fresh face. >> eric: got to go. coming up, executive producer lauren michels, censored the show to protect barack obama. surprising comments from mr. michels coming up next. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ >> kimberly: last minute change to the line-up of "saturday night live" is raising questions about censorship and partisanship at the nbc show. executive producer lauren michels killed an opening sketch of obama spiking the football over bin laden and instead replaced it about the pals at fox and friends, which of course we sometimes find amusing. isn't that true? >> greg: absolutely. of course, saturday night live is not partisan. i remember a joke they made in 1996 about clinton saying he was chubby. do you remember that? "saturday night live" is about

as edgy as a handball. when you go out and make fun of -- >> dana: they'll ruin you now. >> greg: it's like making fun of your parents. fox news represents middle america. your parents, easy to make fun of. look at obama, you can't make fun of him. you want to be like him. they pretend they're speaking truth to power but they're not. they're french kissing power. >> eric: their hero is alec baldwin. >> kimberly: he really is. they love him. >> eric: done more shows than anybody. if they did a skit on us, would be fun. how do they portray bob? >> bob: the fat guy. >> kimberly: bob! >> greg: have to get joyy beha -- joy behar to host. >> kimberly: that might be mean-spirited, greg. >> dana: in some ways "saturday night live" never had any problem finding something funny with president

bush. that was always hilarious. it's interesting to me, nobody actually does a good imitation of president obama. >> greg: they don't want to. >> dana: they don't want to. right. they don't think it's funny. >> kimberly: they feel awkward about it. how are you supposed to imitate him. >> bob: who is the famous boy i go? rich little said he was difficult to do. >> dana: nobody is that tall and handsome. >> bob: if anybody believes "saturday night live" politics are not to the left, i guarantee you that you look at it over the years, these are people who graduate most of them out of the second city in chicago. liberal background. of course they're more partisan. >> dana: it is. i would die if they did a segment about us. i would be embarrassed. >> kimberly: wait for it. >> bob: who do you think

will play you? her name was sarah palin. >> kimberly: sarah palin will play dana? look at what loren michels had to say, the back and forth and fall-out over censorship of snl. the statement obviously i thought it was funny or i would haven't led the dress rehearsal into it. but we were 27 minutes long and something had to go. it's about the comedy. the show is many things but partisan it is not. >> greg: a month ago there was an article by maureen dowd in the "new york times" interviewing people from "saturday night live" who were lamenting they couldn't get a handle on obama or find a way to make fun of obama. here is an instance where you could and they chose not to. it's not that it's not finding a handle, the heart is not in it. >> bob: jesse vanture ra plays eric. he is. >> kimberly: i don't think so. tremendous hair for eric

bolling. tan. >> bob: i can picture every one of them. pudgy guy is me. the little guy that twits around the side is you. >> dana: i am so old i have not stayed up that late to see a live version of "saturday night live." i only see it when there is news about it. >> kimberly: we have things to get to here. talk about cher. i love her. another one with fabulous hair. she went on a twitter rant against romney. somebody send in a medic. honestly, resuscitation life alert commercial. you cannot make it up. put this up. so this is@cher. cool to have a tiny name like that. saying if romney gets elected i don't know if i can breathe the same air at him and the right wing racist homophobic, women-hating, tea bagger masters.

>> dana: i love that she capitalizes him. >> eric: referring to a tea party. if she knew anything, iota sliver of politics she would know the tea party aren't behind romney candidacy. >> greg: the tea party never talks about social programs. tea party is about economics. they never talk about anything on -- >> kimberly: people are misinformed. we're going to focus on the rest of her tweet really fast and he is said they care nothing about the poor, old, sick, hungry, children and people striveing for a better life. >> dana: she has serious capitalization problem. freddie chopping up too many -- >> greg: she is chopping up too many lines using her aarp card. >> bob: you can fete really good blow for discount. >> greg: really? >> bob: specials. >> kimberly: we have to go. coming up, what is the real

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♪ ♪ >> greg: i love the beatles. you remember elizabeth warren, the massachusetts democrat running against senator scott brown and came under fire for claiming minority status on her native-american heritage when she is 1/32nd cherokee.

she insisted she never used it to get a job but for five years she listed herself as minority. asked about it, he is accused scott brown as sexism and said she only out theed it to meet people. >> i listed in the directory because i listed it myself. [ inaudible ] it was a long time ago but mostly i was listed because i thought i might be invited to meetings where i might meet more people who had grown up like i had grown up. that was that. >> greg: it turned out her great, great, great grandfather was par of a militia rounded up indians

from their homes in the trail of tears so the oppressed may be the oppressor. where is the media in all of this? imagine a politician condem condemning gay marriage is gay. the media would bury him under the hypocrisy. she is pretending to be something she is not. i hope liberals on the afternoon chat shows, bob, who condemn them and demand she lead the race. >> bob: if it helps her meet people, i'm full t apache. sitting bull. >> eric: full of bull. >> kimberly: you got him.

>> bob: she would be getting killed in the media in massachusetts. in fairness on that dimension she has been dogged by it for three weeks now. >> greg: we contacted her camp. >> kimberly: her camp? her tepee? >> greg: i mean her campaig campaign. >> bob: they shot you with a bow and arrow. >> greg: terrible. to refute the articles and they haven't responded. >> eric: a peace pipe. >> dana: why are you going to me? >> greg: i'm asking you a question. why haven't they responded? >> dana: they hope it just goes away. >> greg: i feel that way about you sometimes. >> dana: brutal. i think they do, it's not -- checking box wasn't the crime. it was the coverup. the story changed five times. the little things get you in a

race like this. scott brown is the incumbent but probably the underdog a couple of months ago. now i think he will win. this is just shady. >> eric: the ceo who admitted yesterday that he lied on his resume. 'canes i know. >> eric: whatever. you make my takes. >> greg: greg lies on his -- >> dana: greg lies on his driver's license about his height. >> eric: but being 1/32nd cherokee. >> greg: i'm being insulted by a smurf. >> kimberly: i can't go there. treacherous. >> bob: i am not 100% apache but i have a puppy beagle and i'll be in central part tonight. jimenez is not match.com. >> bob: you owe me an apology. >> kimberly: i think unitly in the long run we talked about this early this will benefit brown, because he is going to be able to say look at this.

our credible, for the record we don't know that she is not 1/32nd chi32nd cherokee. picture on the mantle. i'm part puerto rican. >> dana: if you go back that far we're all part that -- >> greg: i own a cherokee. a jeep. >> dana: that's the mini one. >> greg: why are you doing this? >> bob: greg, get out of here buddy before you're slammed some more. >> greg: i know. >> kimberly: your big wheel. >> greg: now you're joining in. well done. this is bullying. >> dana: sisterhood. >> greg: federal judge suggests cutting the ten commandments down to six? what does he want to cut? remove thou shall be kind to dana perino but that's a huge mistake. ♪ ♪

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>> bob: excuse me for coughing in the entire show, but i have pneumonia an on the way to the hospital. only kidding. interesting lawsuit in virginia. student got the aclu on his behalf to take the ten commandments off the wall at the high school, the local high school. a judge inherited the case and put it over to mediation but made a suggestion. the school board agreed to take it down then there was an uproar from the community. they put it back up. the judge gets it and says go to mediation and take the first four commandments and do away with those and put six of them up. which may be the dumbest idea i've ever heard in my life. for those of us of faith the idea to take four of the ten commandments away is like taking foreign exchange students away from me. you can't do that. >> kimberly: my gosh. did you say that out loud?

>> greg: i decided taking four away i would add four to the ten commandment, politically correct commandments. thou shall not take obama's name in vain. pretty good. honor thy father and mother or mother and mother or father and father or transgender father and transgender mother. the next thou shall not steal unless it's from the rich who are not paying their fair share. >> kimberly: good one. >> greg: thou shall not commit adultery unless you offer to pay for birth control. lastly -- >> bob: that is four. >> greg: thou shall not kill after the third trimester. i would like to apologize. >> bob: does anybody else find this obsud? >> dana: this is why judges matter. judicial activism, this subject is not just the constitution it's the bible.

>> bob: not like putting a contract on a house. >> dana: i hope he is embarrassed. >> kimberly: i don't understand what they're talking about. there is no federal case supporting putting it inside a school. to put them all up or you don't. main argument is that it's not just religious, there are historical items. >> bob: i thought you couldn't put them up in schools? >> kimberly: that's what i say. >> eric: don't you agree with the judge? >> bob: absolutely not. >> eric: i expect you to agree with him. aren't you advocate of separation of church and state? >> bob: i'm a christian first, advocate of church and state second. i believe in god and money.

>> dana: the aclu is tying up the courts with cases like this. >> kimberly: best statement of the show so far. >> dana: thank you. >> eric: better than joy behar. >> kimberly: that was funny. >> bob: i'm a sick man. we may find out later tonight i'm really very sick and you will feel bad. >> kimberly: you got in trouble about the heart attack thing. >> eric: three or four of commanderments? >> bob: he said take the four out that mentioned god. >> dana: overtly religious. >> bob: the others are not religious except for dregs. >> greg: this about being right in the chuleture. >> bob: be politically correct because one more thing is next. don't go anywhere. really, don't go anywhere. you i'll enjoy this. 

♪ ♪ >> dana: time for one more thing. kimberly, kick us off. >> kimberly: today is one of the best day of all time.

birthday, dana perino celebrating a fantastic birthday today. we thought it would be fun to go to the friends around the building and they put together a package. take a look. >> i told my friends on "the five" and you are my friends, the cable news break-out show of the year by far. first of all, congratulations to everybody. but a special congratulations today to our good friend dana perino. it's her birthday. >> salutations, dana perino. presidential press secretary. fox news anchor, commentator extraordinary. congratulations on turn 30. >> happy birthday, dana. beautiful, talented, smart and kind woman for whom i have nothing but respect. i also like the fact that you're a little spit fire. go, dana! happy birthday miss dana! >> if you notice that the banks were choseed today it's because it's darren darren's birthday.

a national holiday at the perino house. >> everyone knows what to get dana. that is cash. give her cash. >> she likes it multiple of five. >> happy birthday, dana . think of all the amazing things we accomplished in 27 short years of life. it's amazing what you've done. to have you now be a star on "the five." treasure our friendship. you are one of the smartest, loveliest, most integrity filled people i know and honored to call you my friend and i wish you the best. many, many, many happy returns. ♪ ♪ >> dana: that is so nicism can't believe bill o'reilly didn't do one. that was so nice. this morning, going to karl rove and do the event this morning. freddie i got you a present. >> dana: what is it? >> greg: you were, i knew you would like. this it's just --

>> dana: oh, no. >> greg: giant picture. >> dana: awesome. >> dana: put it anywhere in the apartment. >> dana: greg and i are actually brother and sister separated at birth. >> kimberly: you look boated in that. does everybody else think that? >> dana: this is taken after a long night. >> kimberly: that is before your boflex diet, you look puffy syndrome. if you know what i mean. >> dana: want to do the one more thing? can i to mine? it's really great. one thing i thought about the underwear bomber, the upgraded special underwear bomber warning of the c.i.a. that there is more of them. i had an idea in the commercial break. eric approved on it. this is what i think the c.i.a. should do. make a fake viral video, video that goes viral that looks homemade of an underwear bomber preparing and something going wrong on he dies and he gets to. he, there are the 72 virgins

but his ding-ding is blown off. if we did that and accept it around, all the people who might be a suicide bomber would say maybe it's not a good idea. >> bob: do you know the chance of you saying that a year ago when we started that? ding-ding. big step forward. >> kimberly: you have become provocative. >> dana: you don't think it was a good idea? >> greg: apologize to america for saying, "ding-din "ding-ding." >> greg: i'll eat the rest of it. >> kimberly: it's a cupcake. not a muffin. >> bob: i'm offended by the ding-ding thing. but i'll let it go because it's your birthday. >> kimberly: that is sweet. >> kimberly: we didn't have to twist arms. >> dana: when we had your 21st birthday, nobody has mistaken me for being 21. but they did think you were 21. >> kimberly: right. >> bob: but none of us would say anything. >> dana: i notice that.