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in a week and the white house is sure to get questions about two big political stories breaking now on the political front. first a bombshell in the cbs news-"new york times" poll, the president's lead among women voters vanishing. look at the numbers. look at that. mitt romney now leading the president among women voters, 46-44 percent. second, this is just breaking now, a brand new rasmussen reports poll shows governor mitt romney with a commanding double digit lead when it comes to who voters trust to handle the economy. 51 percent believe that man is mitt romney, who can best handle the economy, 39 percent say it is barack obama. our chief white house correspondent ed henry is live at the white house this afternoon. ed. >> reporter: good to see you megyn. it's interesting, there's usa gallup poll out today which should remind our viewers, these are snapshots, we're several months away from the election but it's very mixed
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news for the president. look at this one that suggests the american people think the economy is getting better, is starting to recover and looks better in 2013, asked how to rate economic conditions today, only 29 percent say it's good right now, that's obviously bad for the president. but looking ahead to 2013, 58 percent say they think the economy is going to be better. you would think that would be good for the president but look at this second number in the usa today poll. if mitt romney is elected will the economy get better over the next four years, 55 percent say yes, what about president obama getting reelected, only 46 percent say that the economy will get better over the next four years. so it's these numbers that suggest that the american people are starting to think the economy is recovering, but they're not giving the president credit for that. and if you tie it together with the ad we saw yesterday from the obama campaign attacking mitt romney over his days at bayne capital, today a new ad from a pro obama superpac hitting mitt romney's days at bayne capital, suggesting they're going after his strength to
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try to bring him down, look at this new superpac ad today: >> he promised the same thing he's promising the united states. he'll give you the same thing he gave us. nothing. >> reporter: now we should note this is right out of the play book of some of mitt romney's fellow republicans, newt gingrich used this in the primaries. it obviously failed for gingrich but i think the obama campaign would argue that was a republican primary audience that was very procapitalism, obviously, he was frustrated with newt gingrich for attacking the bayne capital days for mitt romney, the obama campaign feels with a general election, a broader electorate, maybe the attacks would work. it's worth noting while the obama campaign is attacking private equity on one front, last night the president was in manhattan at a fund-raiser where at one of the executives for blackstone group, one of the biggest private equity firms in the country, so when it comes to fundraising they're still reaching out to private equity. megyn: i want to talk to you about this poll on women voters and this significant
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shift. they were favoring the president by i think it was 16 points not long ago and look at this, the sampling of the cbs poll, oversach -- the democrats, 30 percent were responding, and it shows now the president's 16-point lead with women voters has completely evaporated and now it's a mitt romney lead by two with female voters. what does the white house say about this? >> well, we'll see what jay carney says in the next couple of moments. i suspect from dealing with them in recent months on these various polls that have come out, they're going to say it's just a snapshot, let's look at the next two or three polls, and it's important to see whether this is an aberration. it's far off the double digit lead among women that president obama has had for some time. if this were to continue, the trend we're starting to see in the poll, it would suggest perhaps how women voters care about the economy could be one of those factors because obviously the obama
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administration has been pushing issues about women's health and other things like that, but ultimately if this comes down to the economy that could be big with women voters and also independent voters seem to be shifting towards romney. megyn: the other thing is the white house, they have their own internal pollster, they don't rely on cbs news on fox news or anybody else to get their poll, might they be ahead of the curve? not only did the president speak at an all womens' college, a graduation speech but went on "the view" which is all women and known to cater female audiences. >> look, we've known for some time they are going to try to exploit what had been a gender gap for the president for some time. he won female voters big time in 2008, they've got to have them, the obama camp does, again in 2012, but if it's anywhere close to the numbers in the "new york times" poll in terms of female voters shifting towards mitt romney. even if mitt romney lost female voters for a few points that would be a huge
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gain and suggests that mitt romney would have a fighting chance in this election. again it's a snapshot. we'll are to see what happens in the days ahead. going on "the view", speaking at college, the president knows this is a key voting bloc, megyn. megyn: ed, thank you. >> thank you. megyn: a fox news alert, this on the dire financial crisis brewing in europe, that has put the united states and world economy at serious risk. greece right now is dangerously close to default, and spain could be head down the same track, it appears. if this crisis spreads, economists here are already saying it could be 2008 all over again. fox bit network's stu varney, on fbn, they are talking about possibly the euro, their currency in thure sow zone, could implode. >> well, they are indeed making a direct comparison, between the financial crisis now unfolding in europe and the financial panic in america in 2008 and specifically, the collapse of lehman brothers.
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here's the theory: greece cannot and will not pay its debts. if that goes over to spain, ireland, portugal, then you've got european financial institutions, the big banks over there, exposed to trillions of dollars worth of risk. now, those institutions there, the banks in europe, they are hooked very closely into big american companies. there's a free flow of money on an instantaneous basis to and from across the atlantic. if there was a crisis in europe of that magnitude, if greece spreads, then you've got the seizure of the international flow of money just like we had in september of 2008, and that slows down dramatically economists all around the world, in particular in the united states. megyn: how exactly? how? does it just slow down our stock market? >> our stock market certainly comes down. that's a side bar effect. the principal casualty is this free flow of money. this is a modern financial
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economy. you've got to have the free flow of hundreds of billions, if not trillions, of dollars all the time. interrupt that free flow and companies start to think well, maybe i'm not going to get paid. this guy owes me, maybe he won't pay me. therefore, i'm not going to make that loan to this guy over here. you slow down dramatically the economy in the united states, which means far less hiring, which means you go into retreat and no longer recover. megyn: how likely is this stu? when we have more and more these countries in europe which had been under pressure to implement austerity measures and had been doing so, moving in the exact opposite direction, electing socialists who believe in more government spending and more government programs, and, if anything, to be paid for by 75 percent taxes on the superrich. >> i don't think we'll get to the crunch point. i don't think we'll get to that panic situation as we did in 2008. i think that sooner or later, european authorities will do exactly the same thing as american
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authorities did, four years ago. that is print money. the european central bank can simply print up trillions of euros, make good the debts of greece and spain and ireland and anybody else who's threatened, and stave off the death of european socialism. it can only stave it off for a certain period of time. in that staving off period they're going to come up with a new system. megyn: stu varney, thank you. well, we should mention that the white house was asked about the greek crisis moments ago, and we are also waiting for questions on the president's new polling numbers that we discussed with ed henry. we're going to bring you an update now from all the news that we're getting from jay carney in just a bit. stay with me. we are following another breaking news story today, this time on the chilling, chilling story out of mississippi where a man said to be posing as a police officer is allegedly on a deadly rampage. already suspected of gunning down two drivers on remote highways, and in an intense man hunt -- an intense man
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hunt is underway, many in the area understandably on edge. trace gallagher, live at the breaking news desk with more. >> reporter: these shootings happened in side by side counties in mississippi and both of the victims had pulled their cars off to the side of the road before they were shot. the first victim is 74-year-old thomas schlender driving through mississippi on the way to florida to pick up his grandson from college, he was shot and killed inside his truck, 48-year-old laurie casswell was driving home from work at a casino she was found plying on the ground at the back of the car, shot and killed as if she had walked to the back of the car. important to point out, neither one of these vehicles had any kind of mechanical problems or was low on gas. and shell cases were found at both scenes. robbery may be a motive here, because the woman's purse was missing, the man's wallet, also missing, and authorities are now looking into whether or not the killer may be impersonating a police officer. listen: >> there is enough credible
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information available to us that we felt that prudent -- it prudent to notify the motoring public, if someone is trying to pull you over and you're unsure if whoever initiated that stop is a law enforcement officer or not, be sure to call 911. >> reporter: object you could also put your flashers on and drive to a well-lighted area. that is within the law. get this. we have now learned that back in april, a woman in that same area was pulled over by an unmarked vehicle with flashing white lights and siren, no red or blue lights, and the woman says when the police officer got out, he wasn't dressed like a cop, he was kind of disheveled, she asked him for his identification, and he tapped on the hood of her car and he left. police are now investigating that. it may have nothing to do with this, but it's a fascinating coincidence, megyn. megyn: that's terrifying. trace, thank you. >> reporter: okay. megyn: one political writer calling it, quotings the most egregious something.
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i can't tell you the rest of it because the prompter just changed and the quote disappeared! welcome to my world! i'm sure we'll bring you that story eventually! the president is being accused of hypocrisy today as he yesterday launched an attack on mitt romney's time, running a venture capital. , then a couple of hours later the president turned around and went to a fund-raiser at a venture capital firm. we'll debate that charge, bottom of the hour. a long time security supervisor busted at one of the country's busiest airports, his i.d., for more than 20 years, belonged to a dead man. how did this go on for so long? plus, a $16 billion budget shortfall in the golden state. governor jerry brown, warning of painful cuts now. so why is he still standing by plans for an unpopular multi billion dollar train project? and might they be looking to the u.s. taxpayers to help them? michael reagan is here in three minutes. his dad experienced a similar crisis as governor.
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megyn:o. >> when governor reagan left office the $194 million decifit had been transformed into a $554 million surplus. and while saving the taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars, he improved the quality of life for the people of california megyn: a look back at president reagan's time as governor of the state of california. when that state was dealing with tough economic times. and now, it is dealing with an even bigger crisis. in what he is calling a day of reckoning for california, and america, governor jerry brown details that state's massive budget problems in a web address.
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watch: >> we're still recovering from the worst recession since the 1930s. tax receipts are coming in lower than expected. and the federal government and the courts have blocked us from making billions in necessary budget reductions. the result is we're now facing a $16 billion hole. not the $9 billion we thought in january. megyn: they thought it was going to be nine. it's $16 billion in the red, that state is. despite the grim news, the governor is still standing by a bullet train project that many are calling a costly boondoggle, projected to cost california taxpayers $2 billion a year. why? michael reagan is chairman of the reagan group and with me now. michael, you know, if people are looking at this as just an example of this -- of what happens when you live beyond your means, and right to the left, when you're $16 billion in debt, still
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saying but i want the pretty train, it goes so fast! >> oh no, it goes 130 miles! that's it! to bakersfield! 130 miles! >> mig who's going to pay for that? >> it's going to cost the people of california 3 1/2 million dollars a day, every day, from today until 2017, and if it isn't done in 2017, the federal government then shuts off the money they were going to be giving to the state of california for this bullet train. the president was here last week at that $15 million fund-raiser at clooney's house, talking about his support for a bullet train, literally, that goes to nowhere. megyn: what is happening? the state of california? because we talked about, you know, your dad and how he inherited a financial crisis and came in and helped clean it up. it doesn't seem like the state has learned a lot from the lessons of yester year, as there's a report today in the "wall street journal" talking about the mass exodus of businesses and even citizens, locals, residents, who live in
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california, who are saying i'm getting out. >> absolutely right. i was on a plane the other day and a woman was flying home to california from texas, she works in texas, and i said why do you work in texas, she says the company moved to texas and took their work force with them. that's what happened. the tax base has left the state of california. has gone to texas. has gone to utah. gone to arizona. gone to washington. gone to oregon. gone to other places that are tax-friendly. and business friendly. in the state of california, you have over five businesses a month leaving the state of california. apple. gone. they're all leaving the state. facebook, leaving the country. it has gotten outrageous in the state, and when you have a state that's gone totally green, started by the way by schwarzenegger with ab32, which is turning everything green in the state, corporations cannot afford to do business. about two weeks ago, the governor signed the executive order requiring every state building by 2025
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to be self-sufficient and supply their own energy needs. wind or solar. like that's going to really happen? no. that's not going to happen. because people won't be here for it. megyn: you know what's interesting is i think a lot of folks who want to see more government help, whether it's a state or a country, for that matter, believes that that is the humane thing to do, and what's eye ironic about what's happening in california right now is it seems like it is those very people who needed the government help to begin with who are about to get hurt the most, thanks to the cut backs that jerry brown is looking at. according to a bloomberg news report, they're talking about deep cuts that threaten safety nets for the poor, the elderly, the disabled, and on and on the list goes. >> this is a ponzi scheme, and a the 3-card monty is being played here. i'll give you an example. about four weeks ago the
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state assembly knowing we wouldn't raise taxes to pay for low income housing took a billion dollars away from education. moved it over to low income housing. why? because they think we'll vote to raise our own taxes to pay for education. so they moved that billion dollars. they're the ones who short-sheeted the education department to get what theo what they want. we are spending $15,000 a student, $15,000 a student, in the state of california, and we have gone from first to worst in the state of california, as far as education. this is a complete boondoggle, what is going on and it's controlled by the unions, and by the democratic party. we have a one-party rule in the state of california. i wrote an article about two weeks ago, and the article ended this way. the democrats in this state have gone nuts and the republicans have lost theirs megyn: we'll just leave it at that! michael, thank you! i should pont out that "wall street journal" article i mentioned was dated tuesday,
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april 24th. michael, thank you. well, he was hired to supervise security at a major u.s. airport, but for nearly two decades this illegal immigrant managed to fly under the radar. using the identity of a dead man. in three minutes, we'll see how this happened, and whether it might still be happening elsewhere. plus, a complex web of accusations and counterclaims in the john travolta sexual assault case gets even more convoluted today. just ahead, dr. kao*eb ablow helps us sort through what might be behind the thinking of the accusers, and the actor. plus, a horrifying new look at what happens when your car starts to take on a life of its own, suddenly accelerating out of control. we'll show you what happened when one family claims that's exactly what happened to them. wake up!
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megyn: we're getting a troubling story today, raising security questions at one of our nation's busiest airports. a long-time security supervisor at newark liberty international airport is now under arrest, after authorities discovered that he is, in fact, an illegal immigrant who for the past 20 years has been using the identity of a dead man. not onlydy pass all kinds of background checks but he reportedly gained access to some of the most sensitive security information at the airport. trace gallagher, live at the breaking news desk, with more. trace. >> reporter: and whether or not, megyn, this illegal immigrant ever had bad intentions, experts say this is a disastrous lapse for airport security. this man's real name is bimbo aluole, from nigeria, right, for the last 20 years, he's been living as
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jerry thomas, murdered in queens, new york in 1992. this illegal had all of this man's documentation. we're talking about his birth certificate. his social security number. he was a tsa supervisor in charge of 30 other agents, and he had access to every secure area inside and outside newark international airport. the man underwent full background checks from the new jersey state police, as well as the u.s. customs and border protection. and the states and feds both cleared him. in his 20 years as a tsa agent, he worked for several different contractors. they also had to do individual background checks and he passed all of those because they were going by what the state and feds said, and they just passed him right through. now, umar farouk abdulmutallab, you'll recall, the underwear bomber, christmas day, a few years ago, was also from nigeria, the same area. tsa, as you might imagine, is now scrambling to review exactly how the port authority and the state and
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the feds processed the informs when it comes to tsa agents. we should mention, in fairness to tsa, tsa wasn't around for the first ten years while this guy worked as a security agent at newark airport, but several contractors after tsa was established also did background checks, turned up nothing. if it wasn't for an anonymous tip he'd still be working as a tsa agent, megyn. megyn: wow. trace, new. our critics call it one of the worst sorts of political hypocrisy, president obama going to a fund-raiser last night hosted by a venture capital firm, the very same day his campaign blasts the time governor romney once ran the same kind of company. does the president have some explaining to do? we'll have a fair and balanced debate. >> plus the faceoff between actor john travolta and several masseurs accusing him of sexual misconduct. dr. keith ablow takes us inside this case. >> and what we do for the love of man's best friend, the guy who burned through
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megyn: fox news alert, moments ago, jay carney taking questions at the white house about a presidential fund-raiser yesterday. here's how yesterday unfolded. in the morning, the obama reelection team released an ad attacking mitt romney's work at a private equity firm, bayne capital, calling the company a job killing vampire. well, just hours after they released that ad, president obama attended a fundraising event at the home of hamilton tony james, the president of a group called blackstone which is said to be the nation's largest private equity firm. more than $35,000 ahead. that's -- a head, that's how much it cost toss have dinner, 2 million bucks raised for president obama and there's a question today about whether this is the height of hypocrisy. joining me now to discuss it, fox news contributor leslie marshall and she's a syndicated radio host for the leslie miller show.com and larz larson for lars
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larson.com as well. that's the question, whether this is hypocritical for him to be bashing private equity on the one hand and putting his hand out to them the other. >> the chief hypocrite doesn't have a problem cutting the bite on. he's okay with vampires as long as he can put the bite on. the polls don't look so good for him, he doesn't mind private equity capital as long as it's funding the obama campaign. of course he's being hypocritical and he's really violating the principles he laid out as a candidate when he said the administration was going to be transparent, weren't going to be influenced by powerful interests through lobbyists, of course since then he's hired lobbyists and is taking money from the very industry he's been so critical of that he says needs more regulation. apparently not regulation right away, until he gets the money out of them. megyn: leslie, these are the people he called the fat cats on wall street and shortly after the bain ad came out, a presidential
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spokeswoman said no one is questioning private equity as a whole, but then went on to say, it is legitimate to question whether those are values america needs in a president. i mean, which is it? >> well, first of all, lars, i wore it just for the vampire deal, blood red lipstick for you! and if the president is not doing so well in the polls then mitt romney is crying because they're neck and neck. that being said, this is not from the president an attack on private equity. and i know what you're saying, it's been said, megyn, but we have to remember, the ceo of the blackstone group is not running for president. mitt romney is. mitt romney himself said listen, i'm not a politician. i'm a businessman. and when i was head of bain capital, this is what i did, falsely claiming to create 100,000 plus jobs. this is how i would run america. i think it's fair that his ponent, being the president, points out to the american people what they would get if they had the former head of bain capital running
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their country. megyn: go ahead, lars. >> i have to tell you something. number one, the claim of 100,000 jobs, creating staples alone, which was the creation of romney and the team at bain, created 90,000 all by itself and this is exactly what private equity does, it buys troubled companies, it tries to improve them, in some cases, the companies are so troubled that they end up going out of business. nobody buys a company intending to lay off the workers and stop making the product. that's not how you make money. but if the president honestly has a problem and he's saying so through his ads, with companies that buy other companies and then try to improve them to make more money and more profit which is the only job they have, blackstone does the same thing that bain did, and by the way, let me point out that romney had left bain2 years , two years after this worker was featured in the ad, he left two years before and let me point out as well, one of the key officers of bain, who was part of that group that made
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those decisions about that plant also is one of the biggest buttonedlers for the president of the united states, putting together almost $200,000 in donations for obama while he was still working for bayne, doing the very thing the president has a problem with. megyn: that's the question, leslie. is this about hypocrisy as his critics allege or the need for cash? right? because president obama needs cash and that's what he was doing there last night. i'm sure he would have loved i'll never take cash from private equity, but he needs cash and they have cash. private equity, they tend to be rich guys. even last week, he said the endorsement on may tkpwaeurpblg was a net negative but it paid big dividends when he went to hollywood to a couple of hbgt fund-raisers thereafter. >> there's no question this is about cash and i've said it before, i'll say it again, whether left or right, when a politician speaks they're usually being political, in an election year especially. even my president, who i back, and at least i'm
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honest about it, lars dear. but when -- i don't hear the president saying private equity, very bad, i'm not going to take money from them. i'm hearing listen, my opponent is saying when he ran this company in the private sector, he was so successful, lars, you're right, he wasn't there for some of the closures and jobs shift overseas but was that the case for american pad and paper, was that the case for dd corp and can we ignore that blackstone group just saved a refinery in delaware city, saving over 700 jobs? megyn: quickly lars. >> leslie, let me tell you something, the fact is the way you save companies is by making changes. sometimes that means adding employees and sometimes that means employees have to go. it's the way business gets done. so if the president thinks it's dirty for mitt romney, governor romney, to have been associated with a company that was engaged in that kind of business, why is it suddenly clean for the president to be out getting money from people who do exactly the same thing? megyn: the "wall street journal" did an extensive
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report on bain capital and says it has a record mainly of sucks, 2-1 success rate but there were some failures. panel, thank you both so much. >> thank you. mig mig coming up the faceoff between john travolta and his now multiple accusers, starting to sound more like a scene out of "pu -- p hrufplt ulp -- out of "pulp fiction". don't miss this. >> and new information on one of mitt romney's donors, publicly shamed by an obama campaign website. tom o'malley is head of a big coast energy company and was called out for allegedly driving up the cost of gas. we did digging on this and we'll tell you what we found. >> and chilling 911 calls, in the disappearance of isabel cil -- cellis. why a call from the girl's father is raising some serious questions today. >> just on the other side of the wall from her. woke up this morning, i went to go get her, take her to
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megyn: well, new claims of inappropriate behavior today involving hollywood icon john travolta, a former cruise ship worker is now speaking out publicly against the actor, just the latestna series of claims about mr. travolta allegedly engaging in sexual misconduct. in an interview posted on tmz, a former room steward on a royal carribean cruise line says he went to travolta's room to give the star a neck massage and things went downit will from there, he claims travolta told him, quote, he was a beautiful person and invited him to visit him later that night, even offering the steward money to keep quiet. travolta's lawyer denies that account and the other allegations against the actor. so what are we to make of
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this? moments ago, i asked psychiatrist dr. keith ablow about it, a member of our fox news medical a team: >> dr. ablow, i think a number of us find this disturbing because other than this guy, most of his accusers have remained anonymous, we have no way of assessing their credibility, now we learn that the first accuser who got this whole ball rolling had the date wrong on which he claimed that there was a sexual assault and now his lawyer who dropped him after that says he will not be refiling the claim. so the guy has got this whole thing started, is now gone, but travolta's reputation has taken a real hit. we don't know whether it's true. i want to start with what if it is, what on earth would make a man like that behave so recklessly? >> well, with that as a theory, what if these were true, then you have somebody, if that were the case, megyn, who doesn't understand that other people have boundaries. he's not able to balance his own needs with those of others'. and he may project upon them all kinds of fantasies that
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aren't really coming from them as well. so mr. travolta belongs to a religion that's tailor-made to journey toward the sources of that kind of bad behavior pattern and find its roots and extinguish them. that's the basis in some measure of the religion to which he ascribes. megyn: the same lawyer who's given so many different accounts to so many different people, as for the second plaintiff, a guy he claims was molested by travolta in atlanta, first he said they were going to do a private mediation, and he would settle for 250,000, now he says cents there no private mediation and he'll never settle, i have no idea -- they is the same guy who shopped around a sex tape involving another acto, take it for what it's worth. having said that, we've got at least three accuser, plus another guy who worked at the peninsula in new york who says travolta was banned from that hotel for a period of years for misbehavior or attempted with the masseurs, so allegedly there's a pattern, all of which is
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being denied by travolta. if this is the case, doc, why get married, why lead a seemingly normal, you know -- and i don't mean that being gay is abnormal, i just mean seemingly het sexual life when in secret you may be gay and may be attempting sexual misconduct with masseurs? >> listen, i mean, as you know, people who get married, many of them, a very high percentage, find themselves looking for outlets for their sexual needs. sadly, some might say in other places. this happens. the interesting thing is if we go inside the mind, as you and i tend to do, these allegations, what you find is a manhunt. whether you're homosexual or heto sexual, america seems addicted with outing the sexual indiscretions of men, at present, when it's jonathan edwards or john travolta, we're obsessed with johns, by the way, of
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prostitutes, we really seem to be tremendously interested in pushing back against male sexuality wherever we can find it and i think that's kenning, too. if people have allegations, they should call the police that day, that hour, that minute, to come back months or years later and says he opened his robe, i'd like 250 grand, that doesn't seem tear -- fair, either. megyn: and that didn't happen. no one has filed a police report to our knowledge. they just want money. that leads to my next question, if all of this is made up, started by one plaintiff who now seems to be done, out, even before the case got rolling, what would make someone -- i mean, just a money grab? you're going to try to ruin a man's life, his livelihood, his marriage just because you decide to randomly target him for money? >> you know, i'm sure there are people who are looking for checks in the world. there are frauds out there. however, it's also possible that people feel legitimately as though they were pushed, they were harmed, their boundaries
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were violated, and now. they say well wait, i really should get money, other people are getting money for that, too, they buried it at the time. we can't know. but what i will say is this. it is patently unfair to come back, whether you're one or ten people, to come back years later and say these things happened. did you go to an e.r.? because you're so traumatized? do you have psychiatric records about your trauma, did you file a police report. the answer to all those things are no. then aren't you just assaulting the man at present when you didn't do anything before? you were an adult, after all. megyn: that's the other question, did you say no, at the time, did you leave the room. there's a difference between a come on and sexual assault -- assault and tph-ps you -- and unless you say no, i'm not interested in this and step back, there's a question about whether the person doing it had notice that you viewed the actions as inappropriate. >> yes. now, inside the mind of john travolta, i would still say, if these people don't prevail, but if you in the quietest moment of your
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darkest night can say you know what, i did, i pushed the boundaries with those people, maybe it wasn't criminal, maybe they didn't deserve money, but i did, then he should follow the spiritual path he elected, find the roots of why he doesn't seem to understand these are negative behavior patterns or can't control it because you know what, somehow i'm sure he can if he finds -- if he has them to begin with, if they exist. megyn: there is pressure on hollywood actors, hollywood being so open and accept, there's a lot of pressure they say not to be gay, not to come out as gay because you have to act certain roles, and there's talk about that in hollywood. could this boil down to -- could we be looking at a man who is gay, but is under such tremondous pressure not to allow that fact to get out that he, like others across the nation, has chosen to live a lie? >> sure. and listen, i've treated people who because they haven't been able to share their deepest feelings with people suffer panic
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disorder, they suffer depression, i'm sure professionally, he may have thought this isn't the best move for me if -- if he is homosexual, bi-sexual, but the other thing is i think we should have don't ask don't tell as a culture. who cares? i don't care if he's heterosexual or homosexual. >> it's shoddenfreud, we want to bring down the mighty. he's rich, successful, has a beautiful wife and people revel in stories that would sort of hurt him a little bit, like he's no better than i am. he's got problems like i am. >> it's as old as the bible, very bad form. megyn: dr. ablow, thank you. >> all right, thank you. megyn: we are taking your thoughts on it, follow me on twitter at megyn kelly, let me know what you think. well, president obama's same sex marriage announcement helped rally his biggest supporters in hollywood as we mentioned a moment ago. but a new poll now suggests that that announcement may end up backfiring against voters he needs for
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reelection. pat buchanan said yesterday he put his presidency at risk with that endorsement. we'll take a closer look at what the polls are telling us in moments. >> we have a video showing a car speeding out of control and couple trapped behind the wheel. look at this. we're told this is a case of the car taking a life of its own. very investigate this -- we investigate this with trace, three minutes away. every time a local business opens its doors
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threatened to keep gaga off the plane when she arrived. lady gaga sold all 52,000 tickets in two hours! a horrific video out of korea, involving one elderly couple and what they say was a terrifying ordeal after their car suddenly accelerated out of control. here's you can see the car before it speeds up, just seconds before reportedly accelerating to 80 miles an hour. trace gallagher has more. trace. >> reporter: many cars just like airplanes, we should note, have the black boxes, like airplanes, they control and record the systems and controls and how they're working, but we called hundt day and they say they do not put videocameras in their cars, which is not to say there's not video and it's not legit, because you can buy the black box videocameras anywhere, you can download them on your phone for like a buck. this is a korean couple in their 60s driving a hyundai sonata, it begins with them, followed by a casual
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conservation and 13 seconds of sheer horror. play the 13 seconds now. watch this: >> >> reporter: 80 miles per hour, they hit the back of that car, it caused a chain reaction crash, several cars involved, 17 people were injured, megyn. luckily, none were killed. the couple's son actually posted this video on the internet because he didn't think hundt day or the police were going to pursue this as a case of sudden acceleration. hyundai, as i said, very skeptical of this video and they released a statement saying the vehicle is being inspected by the korean national forensic service. is there no time estimate for the conclusion of the investigation. hyundai motor will provide updates as they are available. the korean government, by the way, is also
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investigating four other cases of sudden acceleration. remember, those black boxes, kind of exonerated toyota after the sudden cases of acceleration, where they had to recall the cars, so the black boxes are effective. we're not saying the video is fake. we're saying hyundai says they didn't have a camera in the car, but they're widely available. megyn: that is scary tape, though. thra*eus, thank you. in three minutes we have significant new polls on the president and the same sex marriage issue, and we're told they are leading to new worries for democrats about the president's reelection effort. plus, we've got new developments just ahead on the manhunt for what could be a serial killer, posing as police officer and pulling over his victims on the highway before he shoots them dead on the side of the road. and the man claims his ex dognapped his dog. wait until you see what this dog lover is now doing to get him back. >> all i want is to bring knuckles back home to me.
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and you can save on these strips monthly simply by joining the freestyle promise program. so saving is easy too. yep, just call or click and join for free. test easy. megyn: fox news alert. new polling worries for the president's reelection team this time possibly tied to the same-sex marriage announcement last week. i'm megyn kelly. a cbs news-"new york times" poll suggests serious blowback for the president. an overwhelming majority of americans think the president's announcement was for political purposes onlys. only 24% thought he made the decision because it was the right thing to do. then there was the president's
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appearance on "the view." barbara walters pressed the president whether he would take this to a national bill that would protect same-sex marriage. here is the exchange. >> you did make that historic decision to say you are in favor of gay marriage. will you now fight for a federal bill? >> my justice department has said to the courts we don't think the defense of marriage act is constitutional. this is something that historically had been determined at the state level. and part of my -- you know, believing ultimately that civil unions weren't sufficient. megyn: joining me now chris stirewalt the host of "power play. the verdict seems to be in on whether the american people
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think what he said last week was from the heart or an attempt to garner money or political gain and it seems overwhelming on those "new york times" numbers. >> yes. the numbers speak clearly. we should note -- we should step up what the obama campaign has complained about these polls. they don't like the they say because what the "times" and cbs did was call back numbers they used in their april survey to see how attitudes have changed. they don't like that. but you cannot escape this i -- this fact that when you have this 2-1 number, an overwhelming sentiment among these hundreds of folks they talked to that the president did this more for political purposes than his own personal view. that tells you the president has a serious credibility problem on this issue and that could lead to other things. megyn: you write in your power
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play piece today,. you have got him going to the ricky martin fundraiser with lgbt supporters and folks. then you talk about his speech sat barnard college in which he did everything but shout girl power at the end. your point is what? >> the president is working so hard to try to get his base back on board and raise all of this money. we talked about this before, megyn. the president is running an incredibly expensive campaign. it's tens of million a month just to keep the lights on before they start running ads. in order to get that money he's having to go around and cater and lay down for these sorts of groups and do these kinds of things. the problem with that is it builds the julyer naught that he can try to win the swing states
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with. all of this stuff that looks so unseemly leads him to trouble with those very persuadable voters. megyn: what is unseemly, hanging with ricky martin? >> when it's all the time and so many fundraisers. it's not about whether this is a gay issue. it's the lengths to which the president will go. sitting on the couch at "the view" for an hour talking about sex books and the kardashian's wedding. if you need to go to those lengths to shoirp your vote and try to please your key demographics and your coalition, that's not where a sitting president of the united states was going to be. megyn: he didn't know he was going to be asked about sex books. they asked him if he knew which kardashian was married to a basketball player, he said he knew it was kim. that show is fun. doesn't it show his more
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relatable personal side because he needs to drive up his favorable? >> i doubt the president could be surprised that the nature of the questioning as you say -- that shows a known commodity. it's not like he was surprised when joy behar asked him about a sex book or quickly hollywood marriages. he was willing to do that because he needs to get his numbers up and do these things. the problem here is this. democrats have not yet taken seriously the real threat that the president may lose this election and he's having to work overtime to raise the money and get the base support he needs from people that should be onboard. if they want to win this and get president obama over the finish line in the fall, they better buckle up. megyn: i want to ask about the latest numbers on women. we mentioned this with ed henry. the president showing a deficit with women. 46% backing mitt romney, 44% backing the president.
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i said he used to lead by 16 points. it was 19 points. not too long awe barack obama was leading romney with 19 points. >> this could be an outliar. we don't d an outlawer. we don't know. one thing i will say is this. as we are talking about earlier. if you have to go to too great a length to woo the voters. the speech he gave at barnard college where he talked about what women ought to wear and their fashion sensibilities, that's not going to induce suburban moms to say this guy gets me. that could be a turnoff. so the president needs very soon to get out of this phase of the campaign and quit narrow casting so much. megyn: he told the women at barnard college, you can be
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stylish and powerful, too. it's true. chris, thank you. as the administration asked about backing a national gay marriage bill, consider this. a total of 30 states have constitutional amendments or laws that ban gay marriage. you can see this on the map. florida and ohio are included here and they are considered crucial swing states in this reelection contest for the president. all the states on this map make up a total of 309 electoral votes in the general election. it only takes 2/270 to -- it only takes 270 to win. the latest poll shows gay marriage is very low on the totem poll. economy and jobs is what people say they care most about. only a smattering believe gay marriage will drive the election. a story we have been following on live is what critics call the
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president's enemy's list. 8 romney donors called out on the president's reelection web site. one donor runs an energy company that is accused of intentionally running up gasoline costs. >> reporter: he may be on the president's so-called hit list. but in the oil refinery business ask anybody. thomas o'mally is more of a hero. he boosted production and eased pain at the pumps for consumers and created numerous jobs but would you never know it from the obama reelection web site which portrays his company as an environmental nightmare and culprit in driving gas prices higher. the truth is -- and we dug into this. o'mally's company bought up
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failing refineries, renovated them. boosted production, lowering prices. his company reopened one plant a previous owner shut down. the refinery that was the site of numerous accidents and releases before the company took it over. there was an oil spill but o'mally moved very quickly to contain it preventing any environmental harm. even democrats in delaware hailing the arrival of o'mally's oil company. previously valero was losing $1 million a day. their new jersey refinery even worse. o'mally buys both of them, turns them around, makes them profitable. instead of laying people off, pbf, o'mally's company is creating jobs. it's true he donated to romney's campaign and for that he has
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been targeted by the obama campaign as a donor with less than reputable records. some are accused of being on the wrong side of the law. as for thomas o'mally we'll let our viewers decide if he's a hero or a villian. meg there are gregg, thank you. there are many questions the white house has raised about mr. o'mally, his energy company and the marketplace. tomorrow he will join us live. don't miss that. we are following a developing situation on a manhunt for a possible serial killer. investigators say he might be posing as a police officer and then pulling over his victims on the highway, shooting them dead. new details after the break. 911 calls just released in the case of a missing arizona girl raising tougher questions about how the flame react in the moments after they realized isabel was missing. >> who noted her gone, your
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megyn: an allout manhunt for a killer who may be posing as a police officer after deadly shootings on highways in mississippi. so far there are no witnesses to either attack. but here is what they know. the shootings happen late at night. the first, a 74-year-old retired grandfather on the way to see his grandkids shot dead on interstate 5. three days later a woman gunned down on mississippi highway 713.
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police believe both victims were pulled over before they were shot. >> here is some of the evidence we recovered at the scene and the -- just different things we located at the scene. we believe both subjects killed were on the side of the road. you can speculate all want to about the different things and we are not eliminating anything as a possibility of how they got on the side of the road. megyn: joining me, a former d.c. homicide detective. this is chilling. what you normally do when you get called over by the cops is comply. now they are suggesting two innocent victims did that and got shot repeatedly dead. the motive allegedly money. in one case the woman's purse was gone. how do they link these two? >> there have been a number of
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similarities that the police have found amoongs these victims. the fbi has gotten involved in the investigation and they are conducting ballistics tests. they will take that information together and try to corroborate to it find out who could have been responsible for these murders. in addition they are not saying whether it was one individual or possibly two individuals involved in this. by like i said. this is an active investigation. megyn: they are talking about an unmarked police car having pulled these people over. middle of the night, you are driving, dark of night, an unmarked police car tries to pull you over with a siren on the top of his car. everyone needs to be a little hesitant about that. >> it will make you uneasy. we tell citizens if you suspect that this police vehicle is not
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a real police vehicle. all you have to do is dial 911. with the technology we use in police departments across the country we can determine within seconds whether that is a legitimate police car. any time somebody is being pulled over by a police car and especially an unmarked car. it's important they dial 911 and get on the phone with a police dispatcher. megyn: the one gentleman was found inside his car. they say his car had crashed. then the other woman was found about it side of her car and there was no crash. what does that suggest to you? >> it suggests for some reason or other she pulled over to the shoulder. she got out of her car. there is a couple of theories that the police are looking at. whether it could have been an unmarked police vehicle or maybe both of these victims stopped to help someone on the side of the road. that's a possibility as well. they are look at both of those possibilities. again, it's too early in this
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investigation to determine exactly what happened but they will have to look at those possible bitle. megyn: if the one person was founding in their car, does that something you one was taking shots at them while driving his vehicle? >> we can determine with the ballistics tests, we can determine how far away the individual was from the morning assaulted him. there is a chance somebody could have come over to the side of his vehicle and shot him at close range. the ballistics tests we should have back within the next couple days should be able to tell us that, megyn. megyn: we want to talk to you about an important case coming up. a 4-year-old girl does not return her books to the local library, so the library workers took action against her and what they did is making national headlines. a 6-year-old girl has been missing for a month. her parents claim she was taken out of her bed in the middle of
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said to be taken out of her moment middle of the night. this case took a strange turn when we learned police are not allowing the father to see his other two natural children. trace? >> reporter: remember the time line. isabel is put to bed by her mom at 11:00 at night. mom goes to work early as a nurse. dad goes into her bedroom to wake her up for her baseball game. then he calls 911. there is talk about how calm he is during the calls. listen and decide.
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>> reporter: that call went on for 6 minutes. at one point in time he even laughs on the phone. the mom then comes on from work. she gets on with the 911 dispatcher and you can tell she is handling this very differently from dad. listen. >> reporter: dad is no longer allowed to have contact with his
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two sons. police say that does not mean he's a suspect. by says there are 12-15 investigators following the possibility of stranger abductions and four or five investigators looking at possible family involvement in this case. megyn? megyn: joining us to take a closer look at this. former d.c. homicide detective rod wheeler. you look at that and you think i would be sounding like that mother if it were my child and not the father. >> that 911 tape contains a lot of good information for the police. there is a lot of elements involved in a criminal investigation. that tape will be part of the element. but that's just one portion of time so to speak. the police will look at the entire time line. that call, a couple other subsequent calls that went into
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911. and the story that the father gave. the thing i think that was most substantial about that call is the far it was very matter of fact about what happened to the child. the first minute of that 911 call the father said he knew for a fact she was abducted. the question becomes how did you know that for a facts. megyn: that's cure dwrows me, too. when i first heard his affect i thought maybe he thought isabel had gotten up and walked to a friend's house. but at the beginning of the call he said she had been abducted. >> to an experienced investigator like myself we are trained to listen to that type of language. the first thing he said is i know she has been abducted. how do you know that? how do you know she didn't just walk away? we'll look at that and everything else in the case including the sex offenders in the area. i think the police are making
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progress in this case. megyn: there are over 15 registered sex offenders in the area. the cops are saying neither parent is a suspect but they haven't ruled anybody out. the division of family and child services say the father cannot see the two sons. now there are reports the couple is separated. on top of that we get the 911 call. the father starts out by saying my child has been abducted then listen to this. >> reporter: megyn, he provide an entire time line he did that evening up until the point he went to sleep.
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the dispatcher never asked him about his evening prior to that phone call. so why did he volunteer that information? there is a reason. he did it because he needed to cover up. one last thing real quickly. the laughter that you hear in his voice? in law enforcement we consider that a nervous laughter because he's worried about what he's saying to the police dispatcher. megyn: it's so disturbing. we don't want to throw the book at this guy, we don't know what the truth is. but it's disturbing the division of family and child services stepped in and said he can no longer see his two older boys and now the wife has apparently left him. rod will be thank you. the question remains where is isabel? we have a high stakes canine custody case today. you know you can kind of laugh at this. but you do feel like your pets are your kids and you a love your pets. and this man in kick loves his dog and spent $60,000 trying to
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get his little dog back from an ex-girlfriend who took it. "kelly's court" takes on an unbelievable case of cross-country puppy love. the president who has arguably seen some of the most favorable media coverage just ripped the media in his commencement address at barnard college. >> no wonder faith in our institutions has never been lower. specifically when good news doesn't get the same ratings as bad news anymore. 1200 calories a day. carbs are bad. carbs are good. the story keeps changing. so i'm not listening... to anyone but myself. i know better nutrition when i see it: great grains. great grains cereal starts whole and stays whole. see the seam? more processed flakes look nothing like naturalrains. you can't argue with nutrition you can see. great grains. search great grains and see for yourself. for multi grain flakes tt are anxcellent source of fiber
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megyn: architect frank geary is proposing changes to the dwight d. eisenhower memorial. the family thought it focused too much on his humble kansas roots and not his accomplishments. so far we are told all the members of the memorial commission seem to like the changes. president obama who many believe is something of a mainstream media darling yesterday ripped the media at a commencement address at barnard college.
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the president saying sensationalism and scandal and its effect on the news and americans. >> no wonder that faith in our institutions has never been lower. particularly when good news doesn't get the same kind of ratings as bad news anymore. every day you receive a steady stream of sensationalism and scandal. and stories with a message that suggest change isn't possible. you can't make a difference. that you wouldn't be able to close that gap between life as it is and life as you want it to be. megyn: joining me now, david webb, host of the david webb show and josh block, former spokesman for the clinton-gore and the gore will lieberman presidential campaign. what's wrong with what he just said. what is inaccurate about what he said. >> nothing is inaccurate about what he said. what he doesn't like is when you
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have lost the "new york times"* and you are on the left. when the media can no longer suppress or ignore what americans see as the truth about the economy and the jobs and demonizing class warfare, all the attacks on americans being put out in negative campaign you have no option but to put out some critique. i wouldn't put too much importance on what president obama is saying here. he's playing to women. he's constantly repositioning. he tacks more than a sailing ship in a race. we don't know which side he's coming from. so we have to look at the facts. he's losing voters. he's losing confidence. he plays to the gay marriage issue. that didn't give him a net-net gain for any reasonable purpose. megyn: josh, what is the point of talking about the media and what rates and what is
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sensationalistic to college graduates. what is the strategy behind that message. >> it's risky attacking the media. megyn: they watch the media and go to the media for not just news, but analysis and other information. >> some of my best friends are reporters. what can i say. i think when you paint with such a broad brush you run the risk of belittling the public service the media does provide. the american people don't trust the media. only congress is as unpopular. that's as true with independents as folks on the right, they are likely to vote for romney. it's an easy tarring tote pick. i think there are more substantive things we could be hearing. i would like to hear him tell the woman at barnard what we could do to get rid of assad in
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syria and how we can get russia to stop beating protesters in moscow. megyn: why do you think the president had it with the media when you cover him favorably and now they don't as much. according to a recent pew study, mitt romney's coverage was more favorable. romney had 39% positive. and obama 18% positive. but that was before the front page on the "new york times" about the alleged bullying incidents. >> for a story that essentially wasn't true, was old. then we look at all the plays that president obama made. the media has been the willing complicit partner for this administration in many respects. there are many networks and
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newspapers clearly on the left. the great equalizer has been the internet and fox news that gives a fair and balanced look by having these debates we are having like this now. i can't height anymore. americans want to hear about substantive issue. you want to hear about a war on women? let's talk about the abuse of women in the middle east. ledbetter didn't fix the problem of pay. opportunity and achievement fixed that. that's a free market principle. not a legislative idea. megyn: some of what he said is true. good news doesn't get the same rates as bad news. but the part where he talks about no wonder faith in our institutions has never been lower. he puts distance between himself and that result. as the president of the united states given all we have seen
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between this white house and the republicans in congress in particular, is that fair for him to suggest it's on somebody else. >> i think the buck stops here. if there is an inspiration gap, let's see the president inspire people. maybe i'm not the only one who sees irony in attack can the media one minute and going on "the view" the next minute. the media is a reflection of our society. i'm glad he gave the speech, he talks about achievement for women. he's a parents of a couple of girls. i know that the women in my life including those with more advanced degrees than me cherish one tights above all others whether that's ceo or boss and that's mom. megyn: the tone he was striking reminded me of the 2004 barack obama when he rows to national prominence giving the keynote
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speech that the democratic convention and it was hopeful. he was scene outsider looking in and saying it's broken. there is no rid america or blue america, there is the united states of america. he got people to believe and reject the negativity. the question is whether it's as effective now that he is on the inside and folks on the left and right as is going to happen with any sitting president have been disappointed to some extent. >> the fact is, now we have a record to look at with president obama. and the record and the reality have become hype and blame. when you read the speech and you watch as i have, it sounds like 2004. it was a great convention speech. let's give him his credit. the difference is were there solutions in that speech in this is not a policy speech, this is a speech at a graduation and hope is part of that element into young people as they go forward with their life.
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that part a nice hopeful speech. but those very same students look at high unemployment, they look at probably with $60,000, $70,000 in debt, being bartenders instead achieving their dreams. now we have to look at the policies that this president needs to push forward. we need real work not flowery speeches. megyn: coming up next a dognapping case of epic proportions. a new york man claims his ex-girlfriend is a cruella deville stealing his puppy. he has gone through $60,000 trying to get back his dog. now "kelly's court" is on the case. >> i trained him, i cared for him. he came from being a precocious puppy to a cool teenager. i want to see him be an old man.
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megyn: "kelly's court" is back in session. on the docket a cross-country canine custody case. craig dershowitz claimed his ex-girlfriend dognapped knuckles and took him to california. he says he spent $60,000 in legal fees trying to get back his beloved pooch. >> in a lot of ways he's like my son. he's the cutest dog in the entire universe. he has floppy ears. he snores like an old man. his whole butt willings when hing whats his tail. he's so sweet and warm. he's incredible. the only problem is my ex-girlfriend stole him and took him to california. i had to hire two private
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investigators to find her. i know it sounds cool to be working with p.i.s, but it is not and it's incredibly costly. megyn: a judge will decide tomorrow whether this guy should get knuckles back. joining me now mercedes colwin and mark eiglarsh. a former prosecutor now defense attorney. mercedes, his butt wiggles when hing whats his tail, and, you know, he says he bought him. he took care of him. the only reason the ex-girlfriend had him was because he had to find a new house -- he was look for new housing. let her have temporary custody of knuckles and she took off. say it isn't so. >> i have got emails from him that specifically says that she is the owner and goes to what she says in the affidavit. there were 62 entries in docket for this case.
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so your clients, counsel is a bit of a whohoo. i'm sorry we lost the family we did have. please tell nuck i'm sorry i'm not there in is a second email. he says i asked for custody of him since the beginning and -- >> i object. megyn: merg i asked for joint custody of him. >> since beginning and i didn't demand it very strongly because i held out hope we would be together again and i would be with him and his mother who i love very much. he has done what we tell our clients never to do. don't put admissions in writing and here you go. megyn: i wasn't persuaded with
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those emails. there is nothing in there that says she owns knuckles. >> that's correct. for all those who think my client is a kook. 83% of pet owners now call their own pets mommy or daddy. they refer to themselves as mommy or daddy. that's when people consider their own dog like their own children. it's 83% now. megyn: it's real. that's why we are interested in this story. as sympathetic as we are to craig. our viewers, a lot of them have pets and god forbid there was a divorce or something in the family, the ex-girlfriend left, they would not want to see their dog go across country and never be seen again. he claims unlike the emails from the ex-girlfriend that simply -- those are his emails to her
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talking about how much he loves her. he says he can prove that he is the one who bought the dog, paid for the dog, fed the dog. take a listen. >> this is my dog in every way imaginable. from him being registered in my name to having paid all of his vet bills and play group bills and the fact that i raised him and cared for him. the problem is she has a wealthy family supporting her, i don't. and she has her attorneys filing frivolous motion after frivolous motion because she knows every time my attorneys respond to it, it's another $5,000. melling * the music. the play group bills. >> what right does she have to claim ownership of this dog? >> she keeps saying it's a gift. he's a man in love. if you read these emails, he pours his heart out in these emails. he loved this woman for a period
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of time and when she turned her back on him, that's when things got dicey. i chained my mind, knuckles is my dog. >> i have an exhibit as well. okay? this is a golden doodle. her name is angel it's our family's golden doodle. if someone took sweet angel from our family i would spend whatever necessary to get her back. but there is -- let me explain something to you. this guy didn't give the dog to her. angel is just like knuckles. you don't give the dog away. megyn: i thought you named your dog toiletta. >> we named it peace and we could say peace-out. megyn: he's asking for your money because he says the rich
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girlfriend can pay all these legal bills and he can't. he's $60,000 in the hole. if you feel motivated you can google his name. knuckles and craig dershowitz. we'll be right back. call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today. in absolute perfect physical condition and i had a heart attack right out of the clear blue... he was just... "get me an aspirin"... yeah... i knew that i was doing the right thing, when i gave him the bayer. i'm on an aspirin regimen... and i take bayer chewables. [ male announcer ] aspirin is not appropriate for everyone so be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. so he's a success story... [ laughs ] he's my success story. [ male announcer ] learn how to protect your heart at i am proheart on facebook.
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jobs, according to the american game association. nearly 60 million people visited a casino in 2011. nevada reporting nearly 11% decrease in march of this year after having what they say is a slow spring convention center. while the casino industry isn't where it was before the economic crash, the head of the gaming association says the industry is good for the economy. >> the game industry is labor intensive. we employ some of the people who are the hardest to employ. and because it's a privilege to have a gaming license, not a right. we pay an effective privilege tax to have the license and still pay on top of that high tax rates. >> reporter: the non-indian casinos pay $8 billion in taxes to saint local government last
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year. while commercial casinos are not currently legal in new york state, video lottery terminals are. numbers could spike if live table gauge is legalized. >> first you see the construction to accommodate the games. then the people that would work the table games and the dealers. >> reporter: if this goes through we could see a lot more here. this place is packed today. we'll see you here soon. megyn: i have to tell you the revenues they are making are thanks in part to my own nana who loves to play the slots. she never wins. but my mom goes with her. if she puts $100 in the slot machine she thinks she has won. if you know nana. we'll be right back. careful, pringles are bursting with more flavor.
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