thing. that's how you get on the air. thanks for watching us tonight. i am bill o'reilly. please, always remember that the spin stops right here because we are definitely looking out for you. >> sean: tonight, we take an in-depth look at the explosive new book that has all of washington talking, about allegations that the obama attempted to pay off the reverend jeff maya wright it about the widespread corruption that still exists. we will reveal a mountain of evidence that shows how unprepared barack obama was to hold the office of the presidency. in a "hannity" exclusive, hear for the first time, audio of a bombshell interview that took place in 2011 between reverend jeremiah wright and the author of this book, ed klein, called

"the amateur: barack obama in the white house." welcome. >> thank you. >> sean: you have a habit of writing books that just get no attention. >> i try my best. >> sean: i am not going to get to this now, but we are going to play some of the audio. you got a three-hour interview that you taped with reverend wright. how did you get that?! >> well, through mutual friends who i tried over months to convince him to see me. finally, he did see hie me in his office at the -- get this -- kwame and cruise missila academy, a high school, named after the late marxist dictator of guan a. he has an office there because he has retired -- reverend wright. he met me in a suit. he looked very, very proper. we had a three-hour interview. i had my tape recorder on the desk. the whole thing is on the tape. >> sean: my name came up a few times. >> yes, it did. >> sean: let's start with, i

thought this was one of the more interesting parts of the book. first of all, let's talk about the title -- amateur. because i have said often that barack obama's in over his head. explain where the title game from. >> from bill clinton. he had a meeting with hillary-- in chappaqua. >> bill lights to hold court. he likes to use his ideas and bounce them off of people. i interviewed several people in that room. he was trying to convince hillary to run against obama in the democratic primary in 2012-- he did some poll being. >> he did some polling polling d showed her that she was doing well with african-americans and with women and with jews. she said, wait a second. she said, what about loyalty? and he said, there is no such word in politics? >> you are going to come under fire for different aspects of

the book. but your sources are -- but they are not named-- the people in the room. >> yes. >> sean: you had how many sources that were there? see, i worked about this because i don't think bill clinton ever got over when he said that he thought or felt that barack obama played the race card on him. is that true? >> you could not be more right. he is still burning from that-- seething. >> that's right. and he wants desperately to get back in the white house. >> sean: yeah -- >> he -- excuse me. he has no respect for this president. he has said so. >> sean: the funny thing is, he doesn't want hillary to wait until 2016 because it's about him. he feels he will be too old. >> he will be too old. his health is not that good. he is worried, will i make it? she is saying, you have to wait until 2016. they are planning right now -- he has gone so far to plan for 2016 that he is talking to people about renting an airplane for her campaign.

>> sean: he's that invested in this coming election here. as you talk about this, you go into some of the life and background of michelle obama and barack obama. what did you glean out of this that you didn't know about them going in? what would you like the american people to know about him? >> about obama? >> sean: yes. >> i would like them to know he is temperamentally unsuited for the job of president. you know, you look at lyndon johnson, he couldn't give a good speech. he couldn't read from the teleprompter, but he understood how to work the levers of power in washington. barack obama is a wonderful speechifier. looks good, great tie. he has no idea how to work washington. he doesn't really have any interest in it, either. vipeople tell me that they attend meetings on foreign affairs with him and he gets a phone from the head of state and he complains in front of everybody, you know what?

i have to deal with these congressmen to get my bills passed. of course he does! he doesn't like to do it? maybe that's why there is a disconnect. bill clinton would be up into all hours of the night and talk to anybody who would talk to him. >> ronald reagan and tip o'neill. >> sean: is it after 6:00? >> yeah. >> sean: interesting point. all right. let's talk about meeting jeremiah wright. >> yes. >> sean: this is fascinating. tell us about the meeting? >> it was -- it wasn't what i expected, tell you the truth. because the guy who i met did not look like the guy on -- on the videotapes with the red face and screaming. he was very quiet, very polite. >> sean: very measured. >> very measured. and talked about his -- his academic credentials, very proud of the fact that he had a phd. and answered all my questions

and he was -- it was just like you and me talking. there was no -- there was no sense that this guy could go off the deep end. >> sean: you know, i felt some intensity -- maybe when he was talking about me -- but also defending g.d. america. he felt that he had been wronged. >> that's right. >> sean: but the overwhelming sense that i got out of the conversation, listening to the 3 hours was that, as i listened to him, he was throwing barack obama down the stairs. and let's start with, he tells a story, i am going to play this first tape here, where basically, he is offered money through a third party to basically shut up and not speak until the november 2008 election. >> any time i look at that box, with all of those things in it, what's in the box? and he offered me money not to preach at all between the explosion of the media in the

first week in march and november election. [inaudible] >> sean: interesting. he didn't mention the name whittaker in the book. this was a bonnified offer. >> yes. >> sean: with proof. evidence. did he show it to you? >> no, he did not. >> sean: he said he has an email. >> he says he has a box, a exard board box, in which he has put all kinds of thing, including this email from eric whittaker, who is one of barack obama's explossest friends, basketball player. they go on vacations together. during the campaign, he -- eric whittaker traveled on the airplane, the campaign plane with him. their families are very, very close. eric whittaker is a guy that barack obama turns to when he has something personal that he wants to have handled outside of the normal channels. >> sean: why does this sound to me a lot like why john edwards is on trial right now?

[chuckles] >> sean: think about this. >> right. >> sean: in other words, is it an offer for an in-kind donation to buy the silence of somebody that could hurt his campaign? even reverend wright said at one point, when they cancelled him for the invocation of the announcement in springfield, when he announced he was going to run for president -- he was cancelled -- he talked to you about that? >> yes, he d. he was very upset and list family was more upset about it. he had to settle for giving a little prayer beneath the platform where he was not seen with his family. but he was not rolled out to give the invocation in front -- on the platform in front of everybody in springfield, illinois. >> sean: so, what does that -- what is he saying to you here? why is he saying it now? because he obviously knows anything he says is going to have a big impact on the campaign. why is he suggesting that they tried to buy his silence in

2008? >> because he feels he has been turned by the obama campaign into a pariah and that everywhere he goes, people who recognize him come up to him and say, how could you do that? how could you say those things on the platform in your church? and i think he wants to sets the record straight. >> sean: but it's also setting the record straight about obama. >> yes. >> sean: and this next tape that we are going to air is very revealing because when nobody knew it, they had a private meeting, during the 2008 campaign. and president obama appealed to him himself, begged him, pretty much i. you know, this took place-- hold that. we are going to play this part when we get back. pretty much begged him. they had an exchange at the end of the meeting which i think is profound. we have much more of that exclusive audio from ed klein's interview with the reverend

wright. juan williams will be here to respond to the stunning developments that wright was offered what sounds like a bribe from an obama confidante. make sure to tune in friday night, a one-hour special on the life of barack obama in his controversial auto biography. you will get to hear the president in his own words, something the mainstream media that wants interviews with obama will never play for you, coming up friday night on

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>> sean: welcome back to "hannity," as we continue to take an in-depth look at the book everybody's talking about, called "the amateur: barack obama in the white house," ed klein is with us. they have a meeting, president obama and reverend wright. and they hide it from -- in the middle of the campaign -- now reverend wright has already been offered money through an intermedeiary to stop talking. >> yes. >> sean: okay. now the president makes that appeal himself. you spoke to -- >> the campaigner. he is not president, yet? >> the campaigner. he is not president yet. so they have a secret meeting. as part of that, president obama is asking reverend wright, hey, you know, you can please stop? this is ed klein's interview with reverend wright about it. >> he came to talk to me and said what the email said -- i

would wish -- i really wish you would not be do any more public speaking until november. >> did he offer you mony? >> no, he did not. eric denot say that to me. >> eric did not say it directly to you? >> no. >> he said it to one of the guys close to me. however, he signed it. and that's in the box. >> sean: all right. so, this is after the president -- he's meeting with reverend wright are after he gave the speech at philly on race. >> yes. basically threw the reverend wright under the bus. then he called the reverend wright, as the reverend wright told me and said, i would like to have a private meeting with nua secure place. reverend wright said, what do you mean a secure place? you have come to my home a thousand times.

why don't you come here? and so he did. and i have the secret service logs that show he did show up at his home that day. >> sean: it was picked up by the medeiasm but you would think after the big philly speech. this is the president who said, he is like family to me. i could no longer disine reverend wright than the black community. so kisee why the reverend's recentful. at the be end of the meeting, you ask reverend wright about this and obama says something profound. tell it. and i will play it. >> he says, the trouble with you, reverend, is that you have to tell the truth. and reverend wright says to him, that's not bad trouble to have, mr. obama. >> sean: wow. so in other words, he is saying, you -- he is saying, i don't have to tell the truth. >> that's right. >> sean: all right. listen to this. >> talk to him about being elected? >> at that point, he was -- yes, and he told me as -- as...

yes. he was confident, he was very hopeful. but he saw me as a deterrent, which is why he didn't -- >> how did you two leave each other that day in your living room? >> he said, i'm sorry you don't see it that way. i said, oh -- he said to me that day, he said, you know what your problem is? you have to tell the truth. i said, that's a good problem to have. >> sean: so basically, reverend wright is telling the world right now, knowing this is an important point in the election. >> yes. >> sean: that barack obama is a liar. >> that's right am i reading that right? >> you are. he said to me numerous times during this interview, there was a barack obama that i knew before he ran for president. not a bad guy. wanted to stay home with his kids, tucked them in at night. and then something happened when he ran for president. he completely changed. >> sean: he said he became a

colpicion. >> that's right. >> sean: he went into great doe tail on that. all right. there was an interesting connection that you brought up between whittaker and michelle obama? >> yes-- because she had a huge pay raise. she worked for a hospital. that became controversial because they had a whole policy put in place where people would be sort of encouraged to go to other hospitals to save money -- >> to save money for the university of chicago hospital medical center, they would shunt poor patients when michelle obama was head of the urban health initiative, they shunted these poor patients to local hospitals so they had more room for rich patient who is could pay for. and that job that she had -- which was paid $315,000 a year-- it was a significant raise. >> oh, like triple what she was making before. this was after he became -- became senator. that same job is now held by, guess who?

eric whittaker. >> sean: pretty interesting. >> this is crony chicago capitalism. >> sean: you know, i felt bad in the book, oprah winfrey paid a little bit of a price, but for the first time she supported a candidate, somebody i think she whole heartedly believed in. >> no question. >> sean: and really you describe in the book where she was shunned by the white house, valerie jarrett, michelle obam ain particular. >> yes. what happened is after oprah, after the election, oprah said to herself, well, i can't say what she said to herself, but she acted as though, listen, i played a major role in getting this guy elected. and she and barack obama were on the phone all the time with her giving him advice about various things, how to conduct a -- an administration that would be popular. she knows a lot about how to be popular. well, when michelle obama got wind of this, especially valerie jarrett, her very best friend,

who is ensconced in the white house, they -- they interpreted this as though oprah was trying to be the first lady -- that oprah was trying to usurp michelle's position. and they really froze her out. >> sean: right. i notice, left-wing blogs that attack you are attacking you now. i don't see how they can atalk. have you a three-hour audiotape that have you given me on the reverend wright interview t. corroborates everything you said there. what do you say about the other sourcing for any information that you spent a lot of time researching the book? >> i d. i interviewed 200 people. most of them on the record, by the way, including president's position who was his-- that's a great story. >> 22 years, guy who is worked with him at the university of chicago law school. people who worked with him at the illinois state senate.

sparz oprah, she was so upset -- this is an oprah quote. michelle doesn't want me in the white house working on this anti-obesity campaign because she says she doesn't like a fat person waddling around the white house. oprah was fit to be tied. now, as you can see, oprah is not cam paibing -- campaigning for obama this time around. >> sean: obviously, you believe they are connected. >> absolutely. >> sean: all right. ed klein. a very, very bland, noncontroversial book, as usual. thanks for being with us. i am sure there will be reaction. you have only heard a sampling of the audiotapes from the interview with reverend wright. we will have much more and reaction from washington. we will check in with juan we will check in with juan williams, up next and more more [ male announcer ] imagine facing the day

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>> sean: tonight in a "hannity" exclusive, have you heard audio, allegations that eric whittaker offered reverend wright $150,000 to stay quiet in the 2008 campaign. now reverend wright claims he has a letter proving he was approached with what some may interpret as a bribe or a bribe offer. although he said president obama never personally offered him money, a lot of questions should be asked about the email

exchange. joining me with reaction from the book, ed klein, i am joined by political analyst juan williams. good to see you. >> always good to see you. >> sean: putting aside politics here. look, we are political insiders, this is fascinating to me, 1; that reverend wright spoke with ed klein for 3 hours. tomorrow night, we are going to play many of these tapes. we only touched the surface tonight. so i have the benefit, which you do not have of listening to the 3 hours. i will not take advantage, being the good friend that i am. [laughter] >> sean: but, you know, here's reverend wright saying that barack obama threw him under the bus, sold out his principles. you know, when learning things about this relationship that we never learned before. you know, going back to he was supposed to give the invocation until the day before he announced he was running for president. you know, the meeting that took place in private, obama begging wright to stay quiet and then

saying to wright, your problem is you have to tell the truth. and wright saying well, i don't view that as a problem. you're a politician. he's really telling america, he's not an honest person. >> well, i think we knew about the business in springfield, illinois-- we did. >> before obama announced he was running for president. but, sean, i never knew you had such a high opinion of reverend wright. clearly, he is a disgruntled-- throw him under the bus -- [overlapping dialogue] >> i am saying, look, first of all, the president didn't offer any money. there is no suggestion of that. >> sean: i am not saying that. >> ed klein everyone said that eric whittaker didn't offer directly to reverend wright. but he went to a friend. also, sean, i urge you to be cautious with ed klein. i -- [overlapping dialogue] >> i think this is highly questionable. there are lots of people i don't

like but i read them and respect their work-- you haven't listened to the threer hours. >> that's fine. >> sean: i am talking specifically about this. let's stay with what we do know. reverend wright's on the record. but it's interesting when barack obama knows he's controversial and on the other hand, he's saying, i had no idea this guy was so controversial. on the other hand, when reverend wright is saying, you know, when barack obama says to him, your problem, reverend is, you have to tell the truth. what does that say about obama? that he is willing to lie to achieve political armbition. >> first of all, we don't know the context of the conversation-- sure, i did. i listened to. >> it i am going to say that reverend wright was telling the truth. let's assume that --al you can imagine that he is not only self aggrandizing in terms of his account of this conversation, but he has a grudge now against president obam a. but secondly, he is saying that president

obama is complimenting that he's the truth teller about race relations in america-- that's not what it was. >> we don't think that reverend wright is a truth teller when it comes to race relations in america. >> sean: this is unfair because i got the tapes early. >> go ahead. >> sean: but the context is very different. the context is barack obama, during the campaign has a secret meeting -- >> no, no. i heard you say that-- hang on a second. he is pleading with reverend wright to shut up. >> yes! i can believe that. >> sean: it's going to hurt the campaign. >> right. >> sean: so they have the meeting. and reverend wright said, i have to make a living. he's not going to take the money. obama's saying, have you to tell the truth. that's the context of it, juan. you can hear it. he has contempt for the fact, he says at other points, he sold out his principle when is he got elected. >> look, sean, this guy is coming at you. i am surprised, this guy's come

from this far left, he's coming from a bitter position in terms of his politics and his rhetoric that have you condemned in the past. and i just urge you to be very careful in trying to understand that this is coming through ed klein and what his agenda is-- this is 3 hours of tape. >> let -- okay. let me lay out for you the credibility issues here. >> sean: i don't have time for that -- [overlapping dialogue] i know what ed klein has said about hillary -- >> oh, you know -- [overlapping dialogue] >> sean: look. i have brewed you. >> you know that fellow conservatives have said that his work is sordid, vial, porn, septic tank -- these are conservative critics? >> media matters talking points are out there. that's not the point for me. the point is this is 3 hours of an interview, a rare interview with reverend wright, reverend wright is revealing something. here's something i think you are

missing here i. okay. >> sean: for 20 years, you know, even barack obama would say, he is like family to me. i cannot disown him. i couldn't disown the community. baptizes his children. i think he married them -- i forget that detail. but the point is, they were so close, so tight and reverend wright -- you say it's a grudge. you say it's bitterness. he's saying that barack obama sold out his principles and it seems to me that based on the 20-year relationship that i'm more inclined to buy the narrative of a guy that i don't like -- reverend wright, because it seems more plausible to me. tell me where you you -- i am wrong. >> i think that you know that reverend wright has made some really awful -- outrageous. and obama knew it. >> you scolded reverend wright for making the comment and said, why was president obama in his pews all of those years.

now that reverend wright chooses to attack president obama-- you are missing my point. the point i am making to you is that reverend wright is telling the truth about their relationship. and barack obama denied it, said he had no idea he said those things. look, juan, you don't believe that. obama -- >> no, no, i don't believe that obama -- okay, hold on. i don't believe that obama really -- really never heard reverend wright make his outrageous things about race in america. but, sean, what we are talking about here is reverend wright now saying, you know what, i'm the one who stands on principle. i'm the truth teller. >> sean: forget about that -- >> i thought that's what you were arguing? he said something very different to the american people. it is -- you know what, honesty to me -- look, i know you are honest. honesty matters. principles matter. >> sure. >> sean: to sell out your

principles for ambition is not a very appealing quality. that's where i would say that -- >> first of all, let's be straight. all politicians are going to do what is in their political best interest. if that's your point that, ed klein's book, that the tape with reverend wright make its out that barack obama pulled back on some of the attitudes and thoughts that he embraced when he was working in chicago in the black community-- we have to go i. i believe t. i don't believe the book -- [overlapping dialogue] >> sean: listen to the three-hour tape -- >> but, sean-- but the 3-hour tape will speak for itself -- [overlapping dialogue] >> sean: that's something that the left cannot criticize. you make up your own mind. >> you can criticize wright. >> i have to roll. tomorrow night, we are going to play this interview in detail on this program so you can hear it for yourself. juan, good to see you. >> take care. >> sean: coming up, the

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associate at priest for life and author of "life at all costs." and profess butler is the professor of universal studies at university of pennsylvania. radio station in new york, they do very, very well. the day after the president make this is announcement, hear what callers are saying. >> no question about it, i have been doing radio for a long time. whenever i talk about this, i am shocked by how many people call up and are upset with the idea of supporting same-sex marriage. >> if you have a kid, would you want your kid marry ago would you want a boy marrying another guy -- >> if he was gay. >> marry another girl? >> i want my child to be happy. >> emotions, it is not the same, though. >> jennifer, you will not vote for obama because of what he just said. >> definitely not. >> why? >> i don't know. i have never liked gay people. >> whoa. >> wow.

>> jennifer, do you know how disgusting that sounds? >> all right. maybe let me rephrase that. i am not saying i don't like gay people, i don't agree with what they are into to? >> sean: the president got on a conference call with from prominent african-american pastors and it didn't go well? >> right. viheard from several african-american pastors and i would say one half who says i am still with the president, i am getting five to six to seven more. vigotten letters from african-american pastors that they are stinging that i was like, whoa. you know, i am with peace and love, but i don't agree with the president. but the african-american community is very, very upset. the pastors are very upset. >> sean: will it impact the election, though? maybe that's the question. >> i don't think that all the community is upset. but i do think what we have to think about is that the part of the people who are saying, this is not going to affect us in church, but we are for gay marriage.

there were two things, you have the d.c. clergy counc while came out in favor of it and maryland, they have to deal with this. it's 50/50 on twitter. i have been watching people talk about this. there is a lot of scripture, back and forth. i think what we will have to say is wait and see-- two-thirds of people say he did it for political expediency. >> people feel it was political expediency, but i have 53 letters, myself, on my own mail, that are saying this is wrong. we must say this is wrong. we cannot stand with this. >> sean: people may not know, your uncle was dr. martin luther king jr. -- where do you think e would stand? >> he would encourage people to read the bible and do their best-- are you sure? >> i think he was more like david. he had sex with his wife and killed scmefer said, please, forgive me. i have made a mistake. i have sinned. i am wrong.

let ye without sin cast the first stone. but the end of the passage is go and sin no more. >> i think he was saying nobody's perfect. but he would be for civil rights -- >> no, no. not gay marriage. >> yeah, this is the same person who didn't believe jesus was the son of god -- >> so, no, he later did -- [overlapping dialogue] >> if you read his sermons, he believed in the blood of jesus. >> and he also believed in love. >> martin luther king at the time of his death-- what about -- what about -- for religious rearngs without naming names, people think it's sinful, like sex outside of marriage. >> adultery is sinful. fornicating is sinful. >> sean: will this be viewed as bigoted, if you hold a traditional religious belief. >> personally, yes, it would be bigoted. i would say. >> sean: following your religion? your faith? >> if that's the way it comes out. but on the other hand, the other

thing i would say is this, just because people say they don't believe in something doesn't mean they can't have a civil right about it. i think we need to make a distinction -- >> my uncle was very, very clear in his own writings in ebony magazine advice column, he was very clear he was following the bible as well as he could. he would encourage us now to repent, get it right. show people the light and love of jesus. you know, repent and try to put things together. >> he is not here to do this. we have a civil rights issue -- >> blood is here -- i have a dream. >> i know you have the blood. >> this is my dream. >> sean: all right, all right. good to see you both. >> thank you, sean. >> sean: let not your heart be troubled. our great, great, great, great, our great, great, great, great, great american panel is if you have copd like i do, you know how hard it can be to breathe and what that feels like. copd iludes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiva helps corol my copd symptoms by keeping my airways open a full 24 hours.

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>> sean: tonight on our great, great, great american panel, on

xm satellite, anthony cumis is here. >> you hit it. >> sean: the president of the pen financial group, business expert, matt mccall. she's an entrepreneur, media personality, millionaire at 19, ceo of amaprojections and the best list of sports cars in the history of mankind. i was trying to get you to explain. that's a great story. why do you shy away from that. >> it's not the girliest thing. >> sean: why can't we celebrate -- here's somebody that had a very tough background, had to raise her younger brother and you worked hard in a construction business and became a millionaire at 19. that's awesome. >> construction and car, neither one of them show up very girlie. >> sean: sounds like the american dream -- >> in this day and age, it's something to be ashamed of, sean. >> worked hard and made wealth for yourself and try to hang on to it and make a better life for

yourself -- >> i'm so sorry! >> sean: by the way, tell opie, he can donate as much as he wants to the american government. him and warren buffett. i am reading the economic news and the potential demise of the world, doom and gloom all over europe. senator coburn's saying the same thing. are we head forward a mess in two years? >> we are not headed for a mess, but they want to you believe that. >> sean: i believe it. >> if you believe that, now bernanke and his friends friendn come out and keep interest rates low and do quantitative easing and then the stock market rallies and then dramatically, the next thing -- you are saying that he is manipulating the -- lying to us and using scare tactics? >> absolutely to have the backing that he needs to keep the interest rates low and then who gets re-electd? >> sean: bill maher.

i am not a fan. do you like bill maher? >> i will say it right there, no. >> sean: he's on conan o'brian last night. let this speak for itself. this is barack obama's million-dollar guy. watch this. >> as far as this bullying, you know, this made me think of the michael jackson situation because, you know, he was accused of being a child molester -- we will never know because he's gone. but even his worst accuser said he never did anything like have sex with him. he was grabby, grabby under the covers, which is terribly wrong. however, when i was 12 years old, i was beat oant playground, like the mitt romney thing, i was held down and somebody punched me in the face while other kids watched. if i could go back to 1968 that experience to being gently masturbated by a pop star... i would do it in a second! >> well, bill -- [bleep]...

[laughter] >> the almond brothers. y could go back in time. marvin gay. >> sean: i don't think that's funny. but it does explain a lot about him. that's why he bullies the kids of sarah palin and rick santorum. that's weird. your reaction? >> first of all, you know, he's supposed to be a comedian. so i don't take anything he says seriously and i would hope nobody else would. he's an entertainer? >> calls a woman a "c" word. he can say whatever he wants -- you should hear his show. >> no, but i am saying, i would never bring him into an intelligent conversation to debate facts and topics-- right. >> and come to a conclusion. >> sean: but obama took a million bucks from him. >> do i blame who took whatever? i have an issue with obama for taking the money. >> i can separate where he's trying to be funny and where he's searces and you know the type of person he is. that comes through any time he opens his mouth. >> sean: i agree. >> it's i'm right, your an

idiot. he is so smarmy that i can't take anything he says seriously. and i don't like him. >> sean: do you have norton on your program a lot. he comes on this show. he can be as blue as anybody, over the top. >> despicable. >> sean: about he's funny. i watch maher on the hbo stand-up, republicans and conservatives suck. >> jimmy norton is a sweet gism he's a nice guy. >> sean: he does have a perverted mind. >> he's horrid. but the act is one thing, who he is is another. >> sean: i agree. >> bill maher, it bleeds through. >> you know that that is who he is. >> he's crossing over, be a comedian or be serious. he is trying to be both. >> sean: million dollars is a serious commitment to politics. >> and it was taken. >> sean: it was taken. >> that tells me all i need to know. i don't need to know anything

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>> sean: the campaign season is upon us as we continue with our great american panel. america crossroads, a brand-new ad. it's obama in his own words and his broken promises. watch this. >> president obama's agenda promised so much. >> we must help the millions of homeowner who is are facing foreclosure. >> promise broken. one in five mortgages are still under water. >> if you are a family making less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes go up. >> broken. obamacare raises 18 different taxes. >> if you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. >> broken. millions could lose their health care coverage and could be forced into a government pool. >> today, i'm pledging to cut the deficit we inherited by half by the end of my first term in promise. >> broken. he hasn't even come close.

>> $5 trillion. >> sean: you know, how does he overcome this -- war on women's not going to work. >> you know what, he is emphatic highlight he is delivering the statement because he really believes it in that moment. but the facts are going to slap him over and over and over again as we go into this because he cannot execute even though he is passionate about it, he doesn't know how-- i am beginning to get the feeling that this campaign is going to be ending very quickly, if this keeps going the way it is. i want you to be scared to death that obama could win again. but they can't recover because there is so much bad news. >> people sit with the siblght seconds, take 60 seconds of their life and watch that commercial. how could you vote for obama? it affects everybody. people who make less than $250. people who have health insurance. broken promises have been broken to everybody, it is not just the rich. >> andy can answer. his partner's going to vote for

him. >> there are people who are going to vote for him. i don't know why-- talk about opie again. >> the reality is-- why would he vote for him? you talk about it. >> i think it's this moral thing, where you think he's a more genuine human being than romney, a man of the people than romney. >> sean: if that doesn't show he's not genuine. >> if he was able to fulfill one of those promises, we would be in trouble. >> the spin team is going to come in and take this message and be like we made this up and people will forget what is happening. i want everybody to be scared -- [overlapping dialogue] >> any time in history, this is the time, everybody must vote. >> you don't have to put that in grainy black and white or slow motion to make it look ominous. >> put a deep voice in there. >> it's him. it's what he said. promises broken. >> sean: matt? >> secretary seconds is going to change our