>> gretchen: good job. >> steve: somebody you want to give a shout out to? >> i'd like to say think my wife rachel and boys, lewis and lucas and my family in missouri. >> brian: i fought for my country. >> steve: see you next week. bill: can we follow that? martha: it would be tough no matter what we do! bill: we followed the obstacle course last week. martha: that was easier! bill: that was like a scene out of "stripes", hand me down my walking cane, 457bd me down my hat. >> there is a significant growing story developing, growing recession, banks on the brink of collapse. there is an immediate crisis and your 401k could be on the line. that's where we start, i'm bill hemmer, another fresh day on a thursday of "america's newsroom". martha: good morning, bill, good morning everybody, i'm martha mccall him. european leaders are clearly at odds over what to do with

this economic crisis, greece has been rocked by economic protests for months now but it's coming to a head at this moment because now, big concerns that greece will actually leave the eurozone. those are the 17 countries all linked to this central european currency. bill: a significant reason why, a british leader saying with greece there is a, quote, risk of economic contagion that will spread. stuart varney leading our story, good morning to you. what is on the line now? >> let's suppose they bite the bullet. enough of this will they leave or won't they leave, they bite the bullet and bring in the euro, and at that moment they have to freeze all assets in banks to prevent money from running out of the country, they've got to print and issue a new currency, they've got to decide how many dracma you get for a day's work or in a loaf of

bread. the result is when they bite the bullet you've got chaos, that economy shuts down for a couple of days, then you've got the risk as you say, bill, of con trainingon. if the greeks are not going to pay their debt and they leave, why don't the portuguese do the same or the spaniards? if you've got chaos over there and this would be chaos, you're going to have a ripple effect come right over here. bill: explain that part of the story. how does all that affect us stuart? >> how can we export anything to a continent that's deep in chaos and near depression? how can they sell anything, any place else when they're in recession and depression? what does it do to the world financial system when you've got a whole continent in financial chaos? it ruins credibility and confidence around the world. would you expand your business in a crisis of confidence in the financial system around the world? you would not. bill: that's a good point. we've been talking about this for a long time. we've been saying this could happen for some time. are you saying today that this is the moment? >> headline in "wall street journal," europe plans for

greece exit. enough of the talk. the europeans are saying they're planning. they are making plans for them to get out of the euro and bring in the dracma. they are planning. i would advise to you watch a company called delaru, that is a london company, they print currencies for other countries, they may be the ones who print the new dracma. bill: stuart -- >> enough with the talk. bell bill we've been watching it for a year and a half now and now we're at that moment, we're about to find out what decision they make. >> very close. bill: thank you stuart. martha: obviously the backdrop is greece is constituting ling with massive debt and obligations they cannot make good on. let's take a closer look at where their economy stands. their debt is more than 1.6 times the size of the economy. unemployment in greece is nearly 22 percent. their economy has contracted by over 14 percent over the past three years. and tons of benefits and

obligations to workers that they simply cannot make good on. >> we turn our attention to another big story today. we could get a verdict, a live look at the greensboro, north carolina courthouse where the jury is in very deep deliberations at this hour in the trial for john edwards, the former presidential candidate john edwards accused of campaign finance corruption. yesterday, they recessed and this time, they did not request to look at any of the evidence again. that's the first time they have not made requests to see evidence again. does that mean they're getting closer to a decision? jonathan serrie is live at the u.s. district court in greensboro, north carolina. jonathan, when the jurors enter the courtroom, what are we getting from them? do they look at john edwards, do they look away from john edwards? sometimes people read into that. >> reporter: yeah, everyone is trying to read the tea leaves. well, john edwards certainly looks at the jurors as they enter the courtroom. a few of them will occasionally return the

gaze, but most of them, a look away. kiran shanahan, a former federal prosecutor who's been sitting in on much of the trial has been trying to read the expressions on the jurors' faces. listen to him. >> what we do notice is that the little bit that we get to see the jurors, their heads are down, a serious look on their face, and either they're just tired from being in an enclosed room for a number of days or maybe there's a little bit of dissension amongst the ranks. >> reporter: the shanahan -- shanahan says the fact that the jurors have not requested any additional evidence from the prosecution since could be an indication that they simply moved on to explore other counts, but again, no one knows for sure except those jurors in that deliberation room. martha: you really don't, you know? we can guess all day as to what we think they're thinking but you don't know what's going on in that room. but our volks who are looking at the possible sentencing, if indeed they

do come back with a guilty verdict or partial guilty verdict, what are they saying about the potential for sentencing, for jail time? >> reporter: well, he faces six counts, each comes with a maximum of five years, so people have been adding them town a worst case scenario of 30 years in prison, but kiran shanahan was explaining to me yesterday that under federal sentencing guidelines, similar charges are generally collapsed into one, and so the very worst case scenario he could face if convicted would be five years and most likely, it would be less than that. of course, if he loses his case, his lawyers have already hinted at a possible appeal. martha. martha: boy, this is going to be interesting, when it comes down. jonathan, i know you're on pins and needles as we're waiting for this. you've been watching it from day one. bill: interesting how edwards is there every day, to see the jurors as they go in and out. >> new reports the pakistani doctor serving 33 years in prison for helping the cia track down usama bin laden

is not in good health, jarrell officials say be dr. shaquil arf -- alfredi is kept in isolation, found guilty of treason, accused of gathering information for u.s. intelligence by organize ago fact vaccination program near the slain al-qaeda leader's compound, now questions about the administration, whether or not there were enough efforts to protect him, the doctor. congressman peter king, chairman of the homeland security committee saying this was handled very poorly and wants to know why the doctor's identity was disclosed in the first place. a bit more this hour. martha: turning into a big story this morning. also there's this to tell you about, the notorious unibomber causing controversy at ace alma mater. peg kaczynski graduated from harvard 50 years ago, he is featured in the latest alumni directly. he lists his occupation as prisoner. that's him from the harvard days, how about that. the home address, as the

federal pen tenrary in colorado, which is entirely accurate and under the awards he cites eight life sentences. at a reunion this week, some classmates called kaczynski 's entry funny, others believe it is no laughing matter. he was arrested in montana in 1996, he was convicted of killing three people and injuring 23 others with mail bombs between 1978 and 1995. boy that, went on a long time. bill: what a story. critical time in this debate over iran's nuclear program comes to a head today. this is a snag yet again, between iran and five other u.s. world powers. steve harrigan in baghdad, iraq, what specifically are the big powers hoping to get iran to agree to, steve? >> reporter: one of the specific goals for the world powers is that iran stop making high grade enriched uranium at a level of 20 percent, they say that's the kind of uranium that can

be used for nuclear weapons. iran is trying to convince the world they're not making nuclear weapons. that's what they call it a -fd can building measure. iranians say they need the research for medical research. bill: steve harrigan, thank you, by telephone. we're trying to keep the line open with harrigan throughout the day. there will be headlines and when there are, we'll get back to steve. tehran reportedly accusing western powers of creating a, quote, difficult atmosphere. a bit later we'll talk with senator lindsey graham in "america's newsroom", what does that mean for nuclear talks in the u.s. and ultimately whether or not iran gets the bomb? that's coming up. martha: he and john mccain and joe lieberman wrote an interesting op-ed on all of this, he follows it closely and will be here with his thoughts on it in a little while. in the meantime -- >> bill: just getting started. mitt romney's time at bain capital, the center of new attacks from the trail but is this a real issue? we'll look at the fallout

over obama supporter corey booker's quotes, and how both sides are reacting. martha: and president obama taking the lead in several key swing states. we'll take a look at how the new polls and there's numbers -- there's john kasich, and we don't know why -- and that shows a closing gap between the president and his top contender. bill: kasich is in the house in a moment. a dangerous fire breaks out aboard a -- aboard a nuclear submarine. the battle to stop the flames and helped the injured. >> the ship remains in a safe and stable condition throughout the event. the propulsion spaces remain habitable and were continuously manned.

martha: developing situation underway in maine, where crews have finally knocked out a fire on a nuclear nuclear-powered submarine. look at these pictures from maine. they worked throughout the night to contain the flames that broke out early yesterday evening. one admiral described the

dangers inside that submarine: >> the fire spread to spaces within the submarine that were difficult to access, the heat and smoke contained in these confined spaces made it challenging for firefighters to come bat the blaze. i want to emphasize the heroic actions of the firefighting teams averted what could have been a much more severe situation. martha: boy it sure could have been. at least seven people, though, were treated for injuries in that fire. bill: we have brand new polling now, just in from three key battle ground states showing president obama leading likely republican opponent governor mitt romney, but the president's lead in all three states, that's ohio, florida and virginia, is now getting closer. maris poll now, the president up by six in ohio, 48-42, and in march that same poll had him up 12 in the buckeye state. when ut look at the real clear politician average,

the race is tight, it shows the president up 4.9%, ohio's governor is in the house today, john kasich, republican from the buckeye state. how you doing benefit? good morning to you! what do you make of that? >> things are changing a little every day, you look down in florida, yesterday, romney was at six, this poll suggested obama is up 2-4. what do you think? >> i think it's too early to spend a lot of time thinking about it, and i think at the end of the day, the election is going to be very, very close. i mean, the country is very divided, and it's going to come down to which guy makes the best case about jobs, and economic security for families. bill: on that point, how do you think governor romney is doing? >> i mean, the bait is -- the debate is going on right now. what president obama is going to say is look, i inherited a mess and things are getting better and governor romney is going to say he had four years and things didn't improve very much and if i were there and if i'm going to be there, i'm going fix it significantly. and people in the living rooms are going to sit there and say honey, what do you

think? and that's what it's going to come down to. bill: in ohio specifically, you're at 610.6% in unemployment in july 2009, you've come down significantly, 7.4% as of april 2012, which i know you'd hang your hat on but you'd like to get a lot better, too. that may help you. could it also hurt mitt romney. >> look, when the economy improves it certainly helps the incumbent, but anybody who would be rooting against an improved economy has got something wrong with them. i mean, we're not in this business to, you know, to try to root for failure for my state or for the country. so look, at the end of the day, we're still high. the polices that we've enacted since i went in, i mean, we were 9 percent, we're at 7.4% unemployment, we went from 48 in the country in job creation to number six now, number one in the midwest, is because we've enacted a lot of polices here that are very similar to the polices that mitt romney wants to carry out. we balanced our budget, we

were 8 billion in the hole, we cut taxes, our credit improved. when america was being downgraded, ours went up. it's because the legislature and i put together a really good plan and people feel comfortable investing in ohio now. bill: i know you like to talk about bringing jobs back and it's a huge challenge, because you lost so many manufacturing jobs over the past 20 years, and i know the floor fell out. we were in spark county, northeastern part of the state, two years ago, they were at 13.2%, they're at 8.3 now, which is higher than the national average. this is my sense when i came away from reporting on that story. it was bad. it's gotten a little better. and is that good enough? >> for -- >> bill: is that still the potential question? >> look, you just don't dig yourself out of a hole overnight. is that good enough for people to say obama, the president, should be reelected, i'm not sure of that. i mean, i'm not a fortune teller. what i can tell you, bill, is as things get

better it benefits an incumbent but things are not dramatically better and people are uncertain. people are worried about what's -- about their kids getting a job once they graduate college, is my spouse going to get hired. there's great anxiety and the only thing i talk about are jobs because that's the great morale issue in ohio, is somebody working and what's the sense of security for tomorrow. bill: what is the sense of trauma american families have gone through over the past four years? >> it's terrible. the housing values have dropped, they don't -- and some of them, they went from one job to another where their income was cut. i mean, the middle class is under great pressure, so as we get brighter in ohio, as things improve in ohio, you can feel a certain optimism but is it something where people are popping champagne corks, the answer is no, but there is absolutely a growing sense of optimism in ohio and not just related to manufacturing. remember stark county, a lot of what you saw was improvement caused by

energy. bill: starting to take off. the "wall street journal" was writing about that today. but i find that those companies out of texas and louisiana are bringing their employees out of the -- >> you know what i tell them -- >> bill by and they've yet to really tap into the local market and hire -- >> well, you know, the explosion of hiring hasn't happened yet. but you know what i tell these companies, and i meet with all of them, we don't want any foreigners working on the drill rigs and what a foreigner is somebody from west virginia, kentucky, michigan and texas. we want ohioans. and look, we're training ohioans to work there. so bill, it's going to be a benefit to the state but we are creating a diversified economy in ohio. the point though about the presidential is i told governor rom 234e -- governor romney, we are doing what you say you want to do and if you do it in washington, ohio will do so much better because the wind is in our face because of the uncertainty out of washington, higher faxes, omabacare, people don't know what's going to happen, and when people don't know, they don't do anything. bull bill governor, good to see anything. >> good to be with you,

thank you bill. bill: thank you governor. here's martha. martha: thank you gentlemen. it is not what you would expect to see on a golf course. this massive door, falling right on the green. where the heck did that come from! bill: you're telling me! also a lot of interest about the pesh election with the governor and wisconsin, unions trying to push him out. so what does this interest show? trouble for the governor? or trouble for the unions? [ kristal ] we're just taking a sample

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bill: 23 minutes past the hour, a tornado ripping through louisiana, at least 15 homes damaged, the

national weather service says two touched down. >> police say a group held a victim at gunpoint in the suspect, the o'clock -- in the basement, the suspects claim the victim is setting them up. >> think you have the worst commute? the worst traffic is in paradise! honolulu is number one! drivers there apparently spend an average of 58 hours in traffic. martha: where is everybody going! to the beach? bill: could be -- would be kind of nice! martha: actually, people are working really hard there! bill: how was your commute. you're out there every day. martha: it's so early, there are only a few of us on the road. bill: and your geographyo geography is supreme, too. martha: yes. there is controversy in the upcoming recall election for governor scott walker. we've been watching this story for it feels like a

year now. so walker is in jeopardy of losing his job. the unions have tried to push him out he signed a law that reformed collective bargaining. that got a lot of people upset. there are some in the state capitol. we all remember those scenes. already, 90 though absentee ballots have been sent out. how is this looking? mike tobin joins us live from milwaukee. there is word that democrats are not really backing their man in milwaukee. what's up with that? >> reporter: well martha, amid the grumblings that the national party has not invested enough or done enough for mayor barrett in milwaukee in this recall campaign, a left wing political organization just pulled $100,000 ad buy in wisconsin. that prompted wisconsin republicans to claim opponents are cutting their losses and turning their attention to november. however, david axelrod told fox news that the manpower and money and the -- in the national party are behind mayor barrett.

>> staffers, hundreds of lawyers, thousands of volunteers and now the dnc is sending out a fundraising e-mail to try and raise money to congressman -- for mayor barrett. >> reporter: that fundraising effort comes from debbie wasserman-schultz, the dnc chair, who announced she's coming to wisconsin later this month to raise money for mayor barrett, her republican counterparts say that's too little, too late. meantime louisiana governor bobby jindal and ncaay haley of south carolina are the latest republicans to show nup the dairy state and throw their weight behind governor walker. at least they're doing to the -- coming to the dairy state. martha: everyone across the country is watching this for the larger implications this has for everybody. the original fight was over union rights, collective bargaining. is that really what this race is still about, mike? >> reporter: not anymore. when you see the ads for mayor barrett, you hear the talking points for mayor barrett's side, they are usually hammering governor

walker for investigation about campaign practices when he was county executive of milwaukee county. yesterday, governor walker said that's because his reforms are working for the people of wisconsin, therefore, his opponents can't campaign on those points martha. martha: boy, well, that's interesting, if that issue has gone away, you wonder what the recall was about in the first place. but the folks' attention has turned to something else. it looks like a beautiful day by the way in mill milwauke. mike, enjoy that out there. >> it's beautiful by the water. martha: gorgeous. good to see you, mike, thanks a lot. bill: moments ago, talks over iran's nuclear program ended. where does that issue stand now? senator lindsey graham is electric, he will react to all of this in moments. martha: he can lucky to be alive, this little boy, he's a seventh grader whose heart stopped during a little league game. why his story could help save any one of us. >> there was no pulse, and he clearly wasn't breathing. >> at that point, he stopped. he stopped breathing, his

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in both directions, it's dark outside. we'll keep you posted on that, when the sun comes up. we'll let you know. round them all up, what do you say? bill bill you know what i say! martha: a good cattle impression. >> bu bill this is breaking news in the case of a poising -- first missing child. eton paetz disappeared 30 years ago and last month, investigators digging up basement in manhattan, new york city, looking for clue necessary his case, and david lee miller is on this breaking news now, live in new york. what do we know about the man in custody. >> reporter: there are reports that the man who is being held lived in the very same neighborhood from which etan patz was abducted. we have pictures outside that home, there are media assembled outside the patz home. reportedly, this individual lived not far from where the patzes reside. they've been reluctant to move or change their phone number because they hold out hope that perhaps their son

is alive and may try to contact them. as for the individual being held, he's not been formally called a suspect by the police. multiple media outlets identify him as pedro hernandez, he reportedly was picked up wednesday in camden, new jersey, he's now being questioned by authorities. new york city police commissioner ray kelly issued the statement, quote, an individual now in custody has made statement toss the nypd detectives implicating's in the disappearance and death of etan ta -- patz, 33 years ago. we expect to provide further details late dear and we should also say the fbi, who we have talked to, has said they are skeptical that the individual now being held is responsible for etan patz's disappearance, they're not convinced about the veracity and truthfulness of the claims, is what an fbi spokesman told fox news. bill: quickly on this, i imagine they're walking with a step of caution here

because they've been down this road before, david lee error reporter indeed. we were down this same road only a month ago. you might recall that authorities in april dug up the basement of a nearby home, thinking there was forensic evidence there. they took away literally dumpsters of debris. nothing meaningful was found. there was a handyman who they thought may have been linked to the crime t. turned out to be a dead-end and lastly, an individual in a pennsylvania prison, who has been convicted of other child molestation crimes is suspected of some involvement here, but he has not been criminally charges. the patzes did win a civil judgment, $2 million, but there's a great deal of uncertainty as to what extent he is involved. that individual will be released from prison in september. bill: pushing for a resolution, 33 years later. david lee miller, development, when we get them. thank you. martha: new reports this morning of potential comp polyindications now during major talks on iran's nuclear program. those talks in baghdad are

now officially over. there were two days of them. tehran reportedly accused western powers of creating a, quote, difficult atmosphere in these talks. u.s. diplomats say they were hopeful that they could reach a compromise with iran's regime. republican lindsey graham is on the senate armed services committee and joins me now. good morning senator, good to have you here. >> good morning. martha: obviously, there are few greater threats to the world, really, than a nuclear-capable iran. >> right. martha: and the hopes of these talks were that we could turn the clock back, we could get them to stop enriching uranium, get it to be shipped abroad. are we getting anywhere here? >> no. the sanctions are hurting the economy in iran, but they're not changing the behavior. the difficult atmosphere kaoet dollars is not around the g5 plus one, stopping the nuclear program, it's the iranians themselves, killing 2000 americans in

iraq by shiping in ieds made in iran, they helped hezbollah and hamas attack israel, they're a big agent of supporting terrorist organizations. so the difficult atmosphere is the iranian regime's threats to israel. i believe they should not be allowed to enrich uranium at any level. i don't trust them to enrich for peaceful purposes. i think we'll never know what they're up to. they should stop all enrichment, hand over all enriched uranium at 20 percent and hand over the sites that we can expect a nuclear iranian program, despite -- des spite inspections without notice. martha: and they've been enriching more uranium to the weapons-capable capacity, 20 percent, as you point out, they've also buried some of that capability so deep beneath the surface of the ground behind such thick walls that even a strike probably

wouldn't get at them and a lot of these talks are to avoid just that, a strike from israel. how is that looking in your opinion? >> well, put yourself in the israeli position. this is inconsistent with developing a peaceful nuclear program. i don't mind nuclear power reactors being built in iran, i just want to control the fuel cycle. i don't mind having a nuclear power plant in iran, i just want people we trust and can sraerfy to provide the fuel, i don't want thure ain -- iranian phos enrich fuel at aufplt why would you build a reactor at the bottom of a military for isotope purposes, why would you do this if you're not doing something beyond a peaceful nuclear power plant? what i think israelis have to face is each day that goes by, their nuclear program gets hardened in iran add israel's ability to slow it down is lost. there will come a point in time when israel has to make a decision, when they believe, the israelis believe, the military cameibility has been

diminished to slow down the iranian program they're going to have to do one of two things, let that fall on the united states or act themselves. i believe they'll act themselves, i don't believe they'll give their destiny to the united states, no matter who's president and the iranians are marching toward a con tphreubt if they don't change their behavior and if there's a conflict to come with iran, if will be of -- it will be of their choosing, not mine. i don't trust the people with nuclear enrichment at all. they talk, they negotiate and they enrich and it's about to put the world into darkness. martha: it sounds like you have no hope for these sanctions. i know there are stiffer sanctions in terms of oil exports from iran that are suppose to kick in july 1st. do you think that that would put a meaningful stranglehold around them where they would be in a position to start turning over this stuff or no hope for even that? >> i think sanctions have really gotten their attention but haven't changed their behavior. nine only -- the only way they'll stop the march toward a nuclear weapon and they believe if they get a

nuclear weapon, the world will leave them alone, is their threat of a military strike. sanctions alone will not do it. they believe they can survive an israeli attack, they believe they believe they can survive it militarily and the world will be divided and some will come to their side. they know they cannot survive an all out military attack. you don't need boots on that nine ground in the united states. if they believe we will not use military force to stop the program between now and the election i think they're going to try to break out and obtain a nuclear capability as quickly as possible. martha: frightening accident air oefplt senator lindsey graham has followed this closely from the senate foreign relations commit aoefplt thank you very much, sir. bill: we hear about how iran is buying thyme and -- >> martha: it appears that way. bill: seems to be the indication yet again. >> a fast growing fire spreading and putting homes in danger yet again. what the police now say started this fire. details on that. martha: and a former clinton

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minutes before the courtroom but john edwards, with his mom and dad and his girl, every day there as well. bill: he's a criminal trial lawyer himself so he is there at the end of deliberations to watch the jurors walk out of the courthouse and see whether or not they make eye contact with him. his experience as trial attorney tells him if they look the him, that might be a good sign, if not, it may be the other way. martha: so the search is intensifying for a missing louisiana college student. twenty-two-year-old mickey shunick vanished over the weekend in lafayette, last seen leaving a friend's house on her bike just before 2:00 a.m. on saturday. the fbi and hundreds of police and volunteers are out there combing the area, looking for her. some people even traveling out of state to hand out flyers and tell her story. >> help. help. i don't know. i've never actually volunteered for anything like this before. >> when we went, we were expecting people to know about it, anybody, because it was national. especially the sheriffs,

police station, but we found out that wasn't the case. for any reason, she was -- they'll know. they have her face now. she's amazing. she deserves every flyer. martha: there's a $25,000 reward for tips that help to find her. bill: there is new fallout today from these comments from democratic mayor corey booker: >> this kind of stuff is nauseate to go me on both sides. it's nauseating to the american public. enough is enough. stop attacking private equity, stop attacking jeremiah wright. this stuff has got to stop. bill: he's the mayor of newark, also a president obama supporter. he backtracked a bit after that on msnbc, but republicans rallied around those comments and this while some democrats distanced themselves from the attacks on private kwefplt. -- investment. my next guest says the original attack ad is

misleading and that's not all. lanny davis, former adviser to president bill clint kwraopbd fox news adviser. good morning to you. is this strategy backfiring, do you see? >> well, first, just to be clear, corey booker's words were taken out of context by the republican national committee, by the romney campaign. the republicans just can't resist when something good is happening, they just can't resist getting in the way and being hypocritical. so corey booker and i support barack obama for president. bill: back up a moment. >> we support his programs, and wroeu that don't take it out of context. bill: i'm not but just to be clear, what booker was saying is there are good people who work on wall street, don't classify them all as evil. >> that's correct and i do take issue with the ad, it is fair game to question romney's claim that he was a job creator while he ran bain, and it's a fair game, i think, to examine his record at bain. what there was a problem with the ad that i saw is that it was misleading, because it omitted a number

of important facts that the viewer should see. romney wasn't even there when that plant went down, that plant was about to go bankrupt before bain bought it, brought it back, and in fact, created jobs, and then it went under as the head of the union said because of foreign imports. so the ad is misleading because it omitted those facts, apart from the fact the person at bain is currently an obama buttonedler, when that company went bankrupt. it's just not a good to to -- good idea to -- >> bill: picking and choosing their own information based on which side they support. but in the larger sense, is this class warfare argument succeeding or failing? >> well, first of all, i don't believe it's class warfare to examine mitt romney's record at bain and its claim. he made it the claim of his campaign. he's not talking about his record in massachusetts, which i think is a pretty good record, when he introduced universal health care coverage, and now he ran away from that. so it's fair game to

question his claim that he was a job creator at bain capital. i agree with corey booker, as did steve rattner and former congressman harold ford, that private equity that goes into distressed companies and saves them, the same way the american taxpayer saved general motors and general motors was forced to lay off workers, i haven't heard criticism of that infusion of equity which was successful, other than by mitt romney. bill: well, general motors is still in business but the outstanding to the just taxpayer is 23, $24 billion. >> well, that money is going to -- >> bill: that's not been completed, lanny. >> that investment in general motors is going to be quite successful. general motors has been turned around, the american taxpayer is investing in general motors. it should only have been you and me, we would have made a lot of money on that investment. there's a good case. but sometimes private equity doesn't succeed and to be fair you have to look at both sides and i would rather have barack obama talk about his record, about why universal health care should be supported by the american people, rather than

going into a negative attack, framework, which i don't think is justifiable for barack obama. bill: you examined this stuff. why is he not doing that then? >> i think there is a sense in most political campaigns that you got to attack the opponent and make sure the negative continues, because negative ads work. i think people like me and corey booker are saying enough of that. i think barack obama can get reelected on the facts and merits and he doesn't have to, if he is going to go after bain capital, which is fair, do it so it's a balanced ad or do it so that mitt romney has to put the facts out about how much did you take out of companies, how much did you make while you were bankrupting companies. it's about the fact -- facts, not about distorting. bill: thank you, lan yes, we'll have you again. martha. martha: well, it was a big surprise from above and it shocked golfers on one golf course. even more shocking is where that came from. how about if you were playing 18 holes and that landed on 16? bill: would be out of here! >> a new space race heating

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maintenance, it sounds like! the jet -- and the people on the plane were fine, everybody was fine. bill: do you think the pilot yelled "fore"? [laughter] >> martha: that is unbelievable! well, from one dream to another, an olympic bobshred der -- bob sledder giving up the sport to earn the spot on an elite military team this time. molly line is connected to this great story for us. hi molly! >> reporter: hi martha! you really said it, john napier has dreamed olympic dreams since he was a little kid and achieved them as well but now he has a new goal, a new dream essentially to join the armed forces and be in one of the most elite fighting force that is exist in the world. he really is a world class athlete, he competed in the 2009 world cup, winning a gold and silver, he went on to the 2010 winter olympics,

it's a sport he's loved his entire life, one his parents participated in but now he's changed his draining with a new goal, with the 20 is four winter olympics looming he has decided to retire at 25 years old from bob sledding with the aims of joining the military special forces. here's john napier. >> i'm just hope to go serve as another soldier. i don't want to be anything special. i don't want to be known as we got this limittan coming to -- olympian coming to us. i want to be a normal guy, serving with the soldiers on the left and right of me. >> reporter: much of this stems from the fact that napier is already a soldier, he joined the national guard, deployed to afghanistan for five months -- five months and that is the time he says it changed his life, and changed what it means to serve and serve hes country. martha: sounds like a great young man. what do his teammates in the bob sledding world say about this? >> reporter: understandably they're concerned about his safety but they also support his choice. here's darren steel of the u.s. bob sled federation.

>> john is going to be successful in whatever he puts his mind to. you know, it's not a guarantee that anybody makes it into the special forces. they are incredibly demanding and competitive. but i wouldn't put anything past john, and he's -- if it comes down to who has the strongest mind i wouldn't bet against him. >> reporter: john napier is such a humble guy, too. he says he's just looking for his chance, he knows he's going to have to earn t. but he's a world class athlete and we'll have to wait and see if he makes this next dream come true. martha: good for him. thank you for binging -- bringing us that story and we wish him well. bill: indeed we do. new fallout in the secret service prostitution scandal. did the agency cut corners in an effort to put the matter to rest quickly? we'll examine that in a moment. martha: the archbishop of new york, accusing the obama administration of, quote, strangling the catholic church over the contraception mandate. big debate on that, straight ahead. >> the judiciary course

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martha: new reports that are just out saying that the secret service may have cut to corners in a rush to handle the south america sex scandal. brand-new hour of "america's newsroom" getting started right now on a thursday. hey, everybody, i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. the feds using into polygraph methods, questioning the results after a day after the secret service director offered this apology. >> i am deeply disappointed and i apologize for the misconduct of these employees and the distraction that it has caused. the men and women of the u.s. secret service are committed to continuing to live up to the

standards that the president, the congress, and the american people expect and deserve. martha: there's been a lot of focus on that director, william sullivan. no doubt they would like to have this behind them at the secret service. molly henneberg joins me live in washington. now there is an investigation of the investigation. here we go again. >> reporter: yes, whether the poly graphs of the agents that were sent home were done directly, did they sit for multiple lie detector test has took an unusual amount of time under an unusual amount of pressure according to the "washington post." now the inspector general of the department of homeland security, charles edwards who was at that hearing yesterday is investigating whether that type of polytkpwrafg could have elicited flawed results. some of the men who were pushed out of the secret service over this incident are now fighting to get their jobs back. martha. martha: there is also an issue about whether or not this was just a one-time incident. of course they would like to

portray it that way but there has been evidence that it has happened more often and in other agencies as well. >> reporter: yes, mark sullivan insisted yesterday this was not a wider problem within the secret service or within the specific agents on the columbia trip. >> we used every investigative tool we had, to include polygraph interviews, talking to other people, looking at records and thus far we have not found that this type of behavior was exhibited by any of these individuals before. >> reporter: the top lawmaker on the senate homeland security committee was not convinced. >> it is hard for many people, including me, i will admit, to believe that on one night in april, 2012, in cartagena, columbia, 12 secret service agents there to protect the president suddenly and spontaneously did something they or other agents had never done before. >> reporter: director sullivan blamed the behavior on alcohol,

and the quote, environment on the trip. martha. martha: thank you. bill: extreme weather alert right now. a fire is spreading quickly in nevada may have been sparked by an illegal burn at a private home. two houses destroyed so far, a hundred others threatened. desperate homeowners taking matters into their own hands. >> i cried. i was a nervous week. i totally cried. i lost it. >> i took the hose to our yard and was watering down the shed and propane tanks just to keep it cool. bill: the hot and dry conditions, the gusty winds added to it. that creates an extreme danger for major flare-ups today. janice dean watching this extreme weather center. how is it looking. >> reporter: unfortunately it doesn't look good for parts of the southwest where they are into extreme and exception aldrought. seven states under fire danger, red flag warnings, conditions

are dry, hot and windy. fire danger will continue through the weekend, a threat for fast spreading wildfires not only in nevada but extending into parts of texas even, new mexico and arizona. topaz lake is the area you are seeing right now on the left side of your screen, the right side of your screen. we are dealing with the warm temperatures especially into the weekend, a little bit of relief in the way of moisture, but conditions are going to mean a very, very gusty winds. so that is not going to help the situation unfortunately. if i could, bill i want to touch on two other topics. we could see the beginnings of tropical development across the southeast coast this weekend, and the potential for tornadoes over the upper midwest later on this afternoon. tornadoes, very large ones across the upper midwest. a busy time in the fox news weather center. bill: look at that system. thank you. we'll be in contact. janice dean there. martha: speaking of tornadoes, take a look at these storm clouds.

stormy skies near lincoln, nebraska, whipping winds out there, torrential rain. it's time to look for shelter when clouds like that rolled in. look at that sky, that is ominous. they did see a small funnel cloud, according to some witnesses but it never turned into a twister. bill: back to the trail we go, new unemployment numbers came out 90 minutes ago, first time jobless claims for the week, 370,000, that's where economickists had expected. mitt romney is making a prediction about unemployment. if he is elected in time magazine the governor is saying that his policies would britt unemployment rate down in 6% in his first term, an did not shy away from calling president obama's policies a failure at this point. >> did he hold unemployment below 8%? it's been what 39 months now. that hasn't happened. he promised it would happen by virtue of his stimulus. gasoline prices, are people happy with those?

home prices. are they happy with the home prices? the level of foreclosures? do they think someone can do better? i think the american people want someone who understands the economy who has a vision to getting americans working again. bill: he says it takes someone with private sector experience in order to fix the national economy. martha: historic elections in egypt, voters heading to vote for the second day now. this is the first ever free election in presidential race in that country's history. it's incredible what they are doing there right now. there is a fear that egypt's army may in the end try to hold onto power after these elections. leland vittert joins us now streaming live from cairo. good morning, leland. >> reporter: absolutely, martha. things are going pretty well here so far in egypt. there is about 50 million people who have to note. that means there are rather long lines at the polling places. everybody we talked to has been

very, very excited about the fact that they get to vote for this first time for a president in a free and fair elections. let me break it down for you. there are right now 13 candidates in the race. the top two of those, barring some kind of big time win, a surprise win by somebody, the top two of those go to a runoff. right now it is looking like it will be a combination of two of the is louisian islamists in the race and two of the hosni mubarak regime members. martha: what hol is th whole is the army playing in all of this in the free and fair elections? >> reporter: a very unusual one. the army is in power here and they are running the election to figure out who takes power from them. the army has a big-time role in the egyptian lifestyle and in the government itself. a couple of the past leaders have been from the army, a number of the generals are very involved in private business here. there is a lot of accusations of

corruption here. among the upper classes people are september calf the role of the army. they say the army is not going to turn over full power and give up all of the patronage they have built up in their industries that they have built up. among the poorer classes, one woman told me today, the army are our heroes and they are confident everything will go smoothly. martha: the whole world is watching that election. thank you very much. leland vittert in cairo. bill: former speaker versus current speaker. nancy pelosi demanding john boehner take action on what could become the largest tax hike in history. what she wants done now and how john boehner is responding to that. martha: we were told it was a rogue regional office that spent nearly a million dollars on a con convenience in las vegas. proves out there was proof that washington new all about that conference. bill: a suspect under arrest in connection with the disappearance of a 16-year-old

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bill: there is a new search underway for a teenager missing since march. volunteers back out in force. this jeer sacramento near sacramento, california, searching for 16-year-old sierra lamar. she was last seen on the 16th of march. >> if she is out there and can hear me i want her to know that we are just not satisfied with somebody being taken into custody, we still want her back. bill: there is a suspect said to be in kurbgsd unde custody, under arrest. they say her dna was found inside the suspect's vehicle and his dna was in sierra's bag. martha: john boehner is responding to demands from house minority leader nancy pelosi

with regard to the bush tax cuts. here is what is happening. democrats want to immediately extend the cuts to those earning less than one million dollars per year but allow the cuts for the wealth year americans to expire so that would be a tax hike for those folks. she is saying this. it is unacceptable tow hold tax quotes for the middle class hostage to extending multibillion-dollar tax breaks to for millionaires, big oil, special interests and corporations that ship jobs overseas. martha: can one of these sides kel usides tell us something we haven't heard before, chris? >> i don't see why 99% of americans need to be held hostage so one percent can get

money that they are not spending on creating jobs in this country. if boehner really cares about the deficit he'd bring up simpson-bowles or parts of it and try to get that passed. i think what the speaker said is legit. let's get this out of the way before the election. martha: i think a lot of folks would be on board with bringing simpson-bowles back to the table. they'd like the president to sort of be the leading voice on that. monica, respond to what chris said. >> yes, you're a hundred percent right. speaker boehner has said that he'll bring a bill to the floor before the election to stop all of these tax hikes, in other words, make all of the tax rates permanent for every american to try to introduce some certainty into this economy, to try to get growth going and some job creation going as well. i think that the democrats class warfare nonsense is getting really old, really fast. we all know that we don't have a revenue problem in this country, we have a spending problem. even if we were able to confiscate 100% of all of the assets of that one percent, the

so-called millionaires and billionaires, by the way the president defines down to people making as little as $200,000 a year. even if we were to confiscate a hundred percent of their assets you wouldn't make a dent in the debt and the national debt. it's not about taxing people more. >> i want to thank monica for holding out at least 20 seconds before saying class warfare this morning. the middle class is losing, monica, we've been losing for years to the millionaires and billionaires that are not creating jobs. >> you're making my point, chris. martha: i have a question for chris, then. if it's true and we've seen a lot of numbers to this effect, that you could tax that group of people a hundred percent on their income and it's still not going to solve your problem. if -- let's suppose for a moment that that's true, then my question to you is, what is the reason for raising taxes on them? >> what is the reason for cutting programs that are

worth -- martha: no, no, answer my question. what is the reason for racing taxes on them then. >> it praoeupls th primes the economy. martha: what did you say? >> it primes the economy. there is no incentive for people making that kind of money to put that money back into the market. they can put it in a savings account and hold on to it. i want to spend it on things we need to create jobs in america. they are not creating jobs. they've had the tax cuts for 12 years, they haven't created any jobs. martha: it sounds like the argument is they should be punished because they haven't done with what they are supposed to do with their own money. >> you know why they haven't be able to create jobs? because of the incredibly oppressive policies coming out of this administration, and the democrats running congress since 2007 and only until recently the democrats had huge majorities in the congress. this president has regulated

more. he has created more uncertainty in this economy, these why people aren't creating jobs. >> there is no uncertainty. >> you've got obamacare, you've got taxes going up with regard -- >> there are no taxes going up, no. martha: the president has said that it should go town to $200,000, in terms of letting the bush tax cuts expire. that would certainly raise taxes on a lot of people. >> well what the congress has done, what senator schumer and speaker pelosi have said was hey it should be a million dollars. we understand that there are a lot of small businesses that earn around a million dollars. when we go above a million dollars we get even to an area where it's not necessarily a small business. if you're bringing home one million dollars a year you're not a small business, you're a big business. and it's time for you to start creating jobs instead of taking this tax cut that you've had for 12 years and putting it in your bank or putting new carpeting in your boat. >> i have to correct you on this. when the two wave of of bush tax cut got through with bi-partisan

support in the congress, 2001, 2003, that was followed by 5 54 that has produced job creation and economic growth. raising taxes actually produces the opposite which is what you're saying now. martha: chris, we started with you, we'll end with monica. thank you, guys. bill: the biggest catholic institutions in america already suing the obama administration and now one of the nation's most prominent catholic leaders using some very strong language in that fight. we'll update that for you. martha: how about this story, this cute little boy is a little league player who is lucky to be alive today. what caused his heart to stop beating in the middle of a baseball game. >> he was just laying there, not moving, you know, blue in the face, ice rolled i, eyes rolled

in the back of his head. it's very important to understand how math and science kind of makes the world work. in high school, i had a physics teacher by the name of mr. davies. he made physics more than theoretical, he made it real for me. we built a guitar, we did thingwith electronics and mother boards. that's where the interest in engineering came from. so now, as an engineer, i have a career that speaks to that passion. thank you, mr. davies.

martha: 22 minutes past the hour. it may soon cost you more to drive. states are pushing congress for new highway tolls. pilot projects have been approved on interstate 95 in virginia and in missouri. paper or paper? that would soon be the only choice for knew los angeles at the grocery store. it's the largest u.s. city yet to ban plastic bags at their check out counters. then there is this for you today, an american icon threatened. after losing a contract to run tours on the canadian side of

the border a company may made into the mist. have you ever been on it. bill: i've never been on it. fire up your hd screen at home, folks. what is the new company? martha: i vote we keep the maid of the mist. let's see what we with do about that. bill: health and human services department facing a will you suit from the catholic church over the mandate for employee contraception coverage. former utah governor mike leaf sreuts secretary of health and zoom and services under the bush administration with me now. sir, good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: cardinal timothy dolan was talking about this with fox news earlier this the week. i want you to have a quick listen to this. then we'll get to you react. >> if you would just eliminate that attempt by the bureau of federal government to define religion we'll step back, because then we'll be able to

rejoice in the religious freedom for which this country stands, we'll be able to keep up our ministries which we consider to be rather essential to our faith and we'll live happily ever afterment it's the narrowness and the choking nature of these exemptions that hhs has put out. this isn't a fight that we asked for or are relishing. we'd love to put it behind us and get back to normal and be left alone. bill: i think the phrase that people are pinking up on is the choking nature as the archbishop described that. what do you make of the cardinal's comments? >> i agree with him entirely. this is an action by government that essentially denies the capacity of the church and its members to play out its conscience in it's own way. in inch supposing the will will government to eliminate the freedom of religion. religion has always played a very important role in american society, and sackses like this

are aimed at diminishing the role of religion. bill: why did they go there? >> i think it was very simply to impose their set of values on the citizenry, and in doing so essentially stepping on the rights of people to practice their religion and to have their consciencess play out in a way that is consistent with their own -- bill: you used to run this department. that was a big job, 2005, 2006 under the bush administration into that second term. is this the kind of thing, you know, based on these lawsuits and challenges in the court, can this be reversed? can it be amended? what is your best guess about what happens to it? >> the administration chose to take away this right of religion with the stroke of a pen. it could be reversed in the same way, and it should be. the catholic church and many others deeply alarmed about this have chosen to go to court to demonstrate that this is not the

role of government, and it goes beyond the constitutional role of government. but it's right at the heart, rile of a question that we are now facing as a society, and that is, does religion continue to have a prominent role in american society? i believe it should be. actions like this make it clear that others do not. we're having a conference today, really to talk about that, to talk about what the role should be, and how we can preserve religious liberty. we're seeing the faith community uniting to fight back against actions like this. whether it was a republican or a democrat, it's all the same, freedom of religion is a very basic part of american life and needs to remain such. bill: just one more question here. does the court act on this? because based on what you're saying here you don't believe the current administration is going to reverse itself. >> well i think it's clear that the current administration has laid its position out. the catholic church and many, many others who join them both in spirit and in letter will

challenge that and believe it goes well beyond the role of government, well beyond what government should be doing in imposing itself,ee hrepl naturing the freedom of religion. religion is a very legitimate way in which we form our own values and we need to have the right in this country, the land of the free to actually to be able to play this out. it's our first amendment right and it should be defended. bill: governor i respect your position. thank you for your time. >> thank you, bill. martha: this is turning into a big story. he was a doctor who suitin sought to get dna from the bin laden family in pakistan where they were hiding, helping the cia zone in on osama bin laden and his family. the thanks he gets? he is now headed to prison for the rest of his life in pakistan. now some say that the white house is letting that happen. plus -- >> i'm extremely agrieved by the gall of a handful of people to

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bill: there is new information on the scandal of the general services administration, the gsa, when the story first broke, remember, senior officials said it was a rogue regional office that spent a million

dollars at a taxpayer-funded conference in vegas. here's what former gsa administrator martha johnson had to say at a hearing just last month: >> the egregious and koarse nature of the evidence and resources assured a loss of evidence in gsa -- confidence in gsa leadership, therefore i appointed two appointees in the chain of command and submitted my own resignation. bill: turns out at least 13 officials from washington actually attended the conference. mary catherine ham, daily caller, fox news contributor, mk, good morning to you. >> good morning. bill: as we peel this back, what's the truth in this story now? >> unsurprising me it creeps higher and higher, doesn't it? originally the story was that one regional office went rogue and spent all this money and people in washington, were shocked, shocked, to imagine this could have happened under their watch, now we find 13 officials from washington were there, some very high up. i would note that one of them was appointed in 2009,

to make sure that stimulus money, the millions going into the gsa, was spent correctly. i would also remind everybody that the gsa's job as an agency is to put cost minimizing procedures in at other federal agencies. this is the perfect story of how the culture of government and a giant federal government leads to incredible waste, because why, they do not care how they spend your money, because they have an unending flow of it coming in, and no accountability. bill: you're saying the remarkable irony of the gsa is that it's actually responsible for watching other agencies to make sure they don't misuse money. >> i think that's the point that's been lost in this, because people hear gs afrpblgts that's part of the alphabet soup of washington, and that's true but its actual job is to put management polices in place and make sure all the other agencies are running supersmoothly. i guess they'll all have hot tubs which is something we can look forward to. bill: with champagne glasses in them! there's a larger point to be made because i'm not sure where this ends, do you?

based on the limited information we have is that this is what happens when you have a of cash, all the time. >> yes. yes. and that is what our federal government pretends it's swimming in, and i would remind people, when you hear folks like the gentleman on with monday contracrowley raerler in the show, talking about the only solution is your money, they can look at things like the gsa and the rest of the tkoplt wasting money on a daily basis because this is not the only problem in which millions with wasted every day and it is the nature of the federal government. bill: it's such an easy and cheap headline for people to understand. and that's the -- that's what drives us crazy. as you approach $16 trillion in debt. an internal investigation, here was just one of the many e-mails, you spend almost a million dollars and expect no one to say anything? >> they really do, because a million dollarso. >> bill: that ain't nothing compared to what this agency spends in the end. i mean, really, what is

behind the curtain, do you believe, of the gsa? >> well, there's something behind the curtain in every agency and i would not be surprised to find many more incidences like this moving forward because they have a spigot on your money and there's not a lot of accountability, yet a million dollars is child's play to the federal government. to normal people, we go a million dollars, wow, that would be nice to have. to them, it's just ya, and that frame of mind is why people like me get concerned when we argue theo when they argue the only solution is to take more money, for what, so you can spend more on champagne and hot tubs. bill: it's a culture problem, do you agree? >> i agree, not only at the gsa and federal government at large, and when you have something so large as the federal government, we have a whole press corps making sure they do things right and you still can't catch anything because it's a giant -- >> bill: going rogue, whole new meaning, huh? thank you mary catherine,

catch you later. martha: the doctor who helped the cia track down usama bin laden was thrown under the bus, some cay say, by the white house. -- ph say by the white house what does that come from? peter king claims that the obama administration leaked the doctor's name and that man is now sentenced to a 30-year prison sentence in pakistan. here to sort this out with us is peter brooks, former cia agent and fellow with the heritage foundation. good morning to you. >> good morning. martha: so the story is that this doctor was trying to arrange to have samples taken, you know, sort of door to door samples taken of blood to sort of do a public health effort in the area that the bin laden family was living in and that do so they would extract some dna and be able to get a positive identification on whether or not the bin ladens were there and that would really help us to identify where they were.

what do you think about how all this has gone since then? >> well, obviously, this doctor has been sentenced to 30-plus years in jail, and it's been quite a cause celebra in pakistan. this person who worked on behalf of the united states, who worked on behalf of international security to run down public enemy number one is now being punished. the pakistanis are trying to discourage others from working on counterterrorism operations with foreign powers, and they're also warning the united states that, you know, we're not going to stand for this. so this is really a mess. martha, it's not quite clear to me, i don't dispute what congressman king said about it, it's not quite clear to me about how this individual's tid i -- identity was made public, but the pakistanis arrested him, it seems to me, in a few short hours or days after the usama bin laden raid. so i'm not sure in all the release of information that

came out of the white house and other places about the takedown of usama bin laden, how this individual was identified and arrested. but congressman king probably knows better, has more information than i do about it. martha: we're going to get him on tomorrow to talk more about that claim that he's making, but when you look at the situation, pakistan sort of was under the tkpwaoeurz of saying sure, we'd love to help you find bin laden and if he's here we'll certainly do what we can, so obviously it was a big embarrassment in some quarters there when they found out he had been living not far from a military institution for a long, long time. so clearly, that embarrassment may have exhibited itself by arresting this man, but would there be anything the white house could do to stop that arrest, do you think, if they wanted to? >> i would think they should have had or our intelligence agency should have had some sort of contingency plans in place to protect those who are helpings us, to protect

our assets, people trying to advance our national security and indeed, international security, and this is often the case. i mean, you probably wouldn't want to have tipped him off ahead of time, but maybe in the day right afterwards you would have wanted to help him leave pakistan and the same with anybody else who was working with us. this is a general sort of rule that we protect those who work with us, our assets, because in the future, if you don't, others aren't going to want to work with you. i mean, this individual is going to jail but he certainly could have gone to the gallows as well. martha: it would certainly dissuade people from trying to help in this situation and that's not what you want to do. peter brooks, thank you. >> thank you. billion bill a major story of how they just came up with the idea to get the dna. martha: isn't it? wouldn't you like to hear more about how -- and they don't know whether he actually got in there and got the dna. that's part of the story we don't know yet and we're going it try to get more from peter king and find out what he knows, too. bill: in the meantime, martha, what you don't want to see at night at a train

station. what was this guy thinking? he was a worker caught snoozing on the job. it's alarming folks in one city. we'll tell you about it. martha: and this is alarming to any parents of a young athlete, a 12-year-old boy sees his life flash before his eyes after a little league game takes a dangerous turn. >> it was a foul ball, went right over my glove and at first, i thought i had the wind knocked out of me, but then i went out. ll on those gar.

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happens. i hope they would learn from this. bill: indeed. that picture will live on, because if that's what happens, cameras everywhere! seventeen minutes before the hour. martha: a tragedy was averted after quick thinking baseball coaches and nurses saved the life of a 12-year-old little boy. sean neilly was playing catcher when a foul ball hit him in the chest so hard that it literally stopped his heart from beating. folks on the field, of course, were very worried. >> he was just laying there, not moving, you know. blue in the face. eyes rolled in the back of his head. >> he took his helmet off right off the bat and that's when we knew it was a dire situation. >> there was no pulse and it was clear he wasn't breathing. >> if they didn't act when they did, sean wouldn't be here now. martha: my gosh. sean's mom, candy, joins me on the phone. candy, welcome, good to have you here.

first question, how is he doing well? >> doing well. he's in school. he's doing everything in school. martha: tell me, i can't even imagine, you know, my kids all play sports as well, and you know, everybody -- as a mother, your heart goes into your throat when you see any kid go down on the field. so when you ran over there, what went through your mind? >> you know, when i first heard they called # 11 i really didn't know what i was running up to, and when i got there and i saw him just laying there, you know, not moving, i just -- i panicked and you know, as my mother -- as any mother, screaming my head off, and i didn't know what to do. i saw the nurses working on him and his coaches and i was just helpo helpless, but i knew he was in good hands. martha: oh my gosh. how long did it take for him to come around, because he did, before they choppered him out, right? >> right. he came around for a little bit, but then he went out

again and when he went out again, that's when i had arrived there and he was totally out. so that's when the nurses came on scene and kind of helped his coaches, you know, get through it and thank god for them, because if they weren't there, then -- and acted at the right time, sean wouldn't be here today. >> martha: he's a beautiful little boy. i'm sure you agree! >> thank you. martha: and i just can't -- i'm choked up just talking to you because i know how scary these situations could be and i've never had anything like this happen to me, thankfully, but what -- had he ever had any heart condition before, any concerns health-- health wise before this? >> no, he's a healthy kid and never had any heart problems before. >> martha: all right. >> and it's a condition, it's called comotio cordis, you don't have to have health problems for this to happen to you. it's in a mili second, they're telling me that the heart beat was beating at

the right time the ball hit him in the chest. it's very rare. martha: we wish him well, hope he's doing fine and thank you for sharing your story with us. i'm sure it took a few years off youro off your life and you got a couple of gray hairs but your boy is okay. >> and we don't to thank the cpr, and everybody, and no matter what, if you're not a coach, you should learn it. martha: excellent advice. candy, thank you very much, our best to you and sean and your family, okay? thank you for being here. all right. let's turn our attention to dr. marc siegl here with me now. what happened to this little boy? >> sean apparently has a normal -- he's totally in good health. we first worried that kids are performing in any kind of sports get checked. that wasn't his -- >> martha: checked for what? >> i think that all children before they participate in competitive sports should get which could by a pediatrician to make sure they don't have an underlying problem. martha: a regular checkup. >> maybe an ekg, something

to make sure their heart is fine. he doesn't have that problem. his heart is apparently fine. but now, she's describing a condition, comotia cordis which is very care and -- rare and candy described it accurately, which is not everybody that gets hit in the chest with ball is going to have this problem. it is extremely rare. it has to hit the chest at the right place, right time and ride cardiac cycle because the heart is under electrical stimulation. it's literally like electricity going through it it has to hit at exactly the right moment. and it threw it into a lethal airs ma, where he's in big trouble. the responders coming and doing cpr right away was crucial. the first thing you do is bang on the chest once to see if you can bring it back. that doesn't work, you use cpr. cpr will give you 30 percent, martha, of what your heart normally gives you, that's enough temporarily, 30 percent. martha: compressions and breathe something. >> i believe both. the two men were there. so it's the breathing, one

guy does the breathing, the other, the chest compressions. that will get you over for the next few minutes until the heart comes back. if the heart doesn't come back, you have an automated external defibrillator on hand and according to the american heart association could save 20,000 lives a year. we need to have the aeds available. that would have been the next step. she's very lucky, her son is lucky, he's probably going to be fine now and it's also really good he got air-lifted to the children's hospital of pennsylvania, which is one of the top in the country. phafr march great hospital. thank you very much, dr. sigell, amazing story and we're glad sean is doing better. wish him well. >> amazing. a medical miracle. martha: frightening. bill: and "happening now" rolls your way in a few short moments. jenna: we'll take those miracles! great stuff. we have new polling from battle ground states showing the race for the white house couldn't get much tighter. larry saab bo with -- sabato with his crystal ball, have

he -- why he says poll numbers are one of three indicators who who -- for who will win the white house. >> and mitt mitt romney's experience at bain capital, how does romney capitalize on those attacks? >> and a major breakthrough in treating an ailing heart by using your skin cells. a really interesting report. so we'll talk more about that. bill: sigell, stick around, coming after you! thank you jenna. space agencys from around the globe, meeting in washington, talking about the next big mission to the final frontier and that can mean taking giant steps forward on the moon.

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martha: well, it's that time of year, folks, a high school principal is now apologizing for overreacting to a senior prank. dozens of students rode their bikes about 3 miles to school yesterday and they caused a massive traffic jam. this is -- this must be the thing to do this year because remember we covered one of these stories a while ago, a similar tale, so the superintendent suspended more than 60 of them! later saying that he thought it shouldn't have been that big a deal. but then it's too late, right? students claimed they were so sad they couldn't do their traditional goodbye walk through school so they thought the bike ride would be a fun replacement. >> don't overreact, principal, if you can help '! bill: reality closer to science fiction, major space agencies meeting in washington, talking about creating the first permanent base on the moon. where is newt gingrich when you need him! tom jones, former astronaut, wrote the book "sky

walking", an astronaut's memoir, and tom, good morning to you. a lot of folks are race to go do this, the russians are talking about it, japanese are talking about it, some within nasa are talking about it. what does a moon base do for us in terms of exploration? >> the reason to have a moon base is to go after the resores on the moon, as well as the scientific knowledge we can gain there about the early history of the earth. the real thing is the resores. there's water ice at the south pole of the moon, we discovered this with our orbiting unmanned probes and these other countries, after the space station era is over are talking about the resources to establish a permanent outpost. bill: we talked a lot about the next phase in skpaeus exploration. do you like this idea, do you support it, do we need it? >> it's obvious. the moon is three days away, the asteroid plan currently afloat at nasa takes longer to get to in terms of months on a mission to asteroids. they each have pros and cons but it seems obvious about

our apollo experience the moon would be a natural choice to check out the resores and that could lower the cost overall to asteroids in mars. >> but when you're hitching a ride with the rugs at least for a few more years, how difficult does that make our ability to advance this idea? >> well, the russians have their own set of problems. they don't fund their space program very well, they've had quality control problems with manned spaceships, their planetary scientific spacecraft has failed because of quality control so this plan for a man base on the russian side is not credible until they start putting more resources in. bill: you're scep ti dal. >> -- skel tai -- scep taiical. >> i am. i think you'll have the see the robot probes before we believe they can tackle this job. bill: tom jones, have a great weekend. >> thank you. martha: it could be a game changer in treating heart disease. what scientists are saying about the promise of using your own skin to save your heart. pretty cool story, coming

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