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house. >> couldn't see it. >> no, i could feel it. >> if i had not left the minute i did, it's very likely that i would not have been here. it's possible that my house could have, you know, been in engulfed in flames with me in it. >> martha: those people, it is terrifying. adam housley, live from denver, what's happening? >> right now we do have the hyde park fire. you've been speaking about the explosion that began saturday manage, a lot of people believe that the lightning may have started this fire early saturday morning. really did explode inside overnight saturday into sunday. we have live aerials from our affiliate, burning just west of fort collins, not far from denver. the smoke can be seen as far away as kansas, nebraska, and texas, just from this fire alone. this also coincidentally is the same exact time, ten years ago, the largest fire
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in state history started, the heymann fire, so a very similar type of fire activity now. it's dry out here in the west, very dry, the fifth major fire already in colorado this year, in this drought-stricken area. people here say it's going to be a very long summer as they continue to battle this blaze burning west of fort collins. several have been evacuated, there was good news overnight, the winds died down significantly. the winds were 25, 30 miles an hour at one point gusting, just night down to 9 miles an hour. temperatures also a bit cooler, seven # or so expected to be the high. those are all positives. however, burning very fast right now, still even with those improved conditions, martha. martha: boy, a lot to handle, even with that as you say, adam. what about what's going on next door in new mexico? >> very similar to what's happening here, it is burning very fast and very difficult terrain as well.
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that fire threatening several different housing areas. we've been told 30 structures have lost there and several have been evacuated. as similar as it is here you have very difficult terrain, low humidity, you with high temperatures and a very drought area. because the west right now, extremely dry. we've seen fires of course already in arizona, major fires this year, as well as colorado and new mexico. it's not far from that blaze that's been burning in new mexico since mid may. it's now the state's largest fire in history. right now, the west is a tinder box to put it lightly and people here are already saying it's extremely busy, extremely difficult and we're only in june, martha. they're worried about what might be facing ahead of us. one more note, to, then give it back to you, one positive thing that may be coming, there are some forecasts for some wet thunderstorms tonight and tomorrow, both here in the denver area, as well as new mexico. if that does bring precipitation, of course, firefighters will be extremely welcoming of that, because any rain of course would be good news to try to
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help battle the blazes. martha: there are times you hope for rain and this is one of them. adam, thank you very much, we'll check in -- we'll check in with you later. bill: and we are seeing torrential rain causing epic flooding from the gulf coast to the florida panhandle, red cross giving shelter to people from a flooded 200 unit apartment complex in pensacola. look at those images, folks calling it the worst flooding since katrina, summer of 2005. in a moment here a live report on the extreme weather happening down there in the south. martha: we'd love to see your pictures or video from any of these situations. go to a web address on your screen, foxnews.com/you report. you can submit photos or videos there. give us your name and location and a brief description of what you're sending us and as always, stay safe when you're doing that. bill: now to new bank fallouts fueling optimism on wall street, stock futures are up on news that spain is about to get an infusion of cash, $125 billion.
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some market analysts say it's a house of cards wait to go fall but stu varney of-varney & company" of the fox business network has a view on this. $125 billion, where does this end. first the news, stuart. >> let's make this not complicated. spain desperately needs to borrow money. it has been borrowing money from its own banks but its own banks have now run out of money so they've got a loan from other european countries which are also running out of money to the tune of $125 billion. in other words bill the money is going round and round and round. more and more debt, worse and worse recession. unpayable debt throughout europe. by the way, greece owes $300 billion, portugal owes $100 billion, ireland, 90 billion, now spanish banks, $125 billion. bill: so why would our markets be up on this news, if the view is that the money is just going into another black hole here?
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>> good question. they were up significantly. now they're not up so much. as the reality sinks in. what europe is facing is the immediate for either a crash, one or more countries drop out of the euro and they crash, or, a mega bailout where they print trillions and trillions of euros. one of the two is likely going to have to happen. in that event, that's why our markets are not up so much as they were a few hours ago, because $125 billion is just peanuts, bill. bill: you buy on the rumor and sell on the news. >> reporter: that looks like what's happening. we may get a gain of 50, 60 points of the dow at the opening bell. this time late yesterday, it was up 170 points. so that's completely faded. bill: thank you stuart, see you in six minutes, fbn, stuart varney. martha: those are a few of the stories we've got cooking mr. hemmer. what else have we got coming up? the battle over health care which is now in the hands of the supreme court and we're
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just waiting for that news flash on ap or reuters or wherever it comes through, news corps, it could be any moment now, but the biggest insurance company in the world has just made a very surprising move in all of this. we'll tell you what it is. bill: also president obama getting blasted for saying the private sector is doing, quote, just fine. we have the numbers that tell the real story as governor mitt romney jumped on that one: >> for the president of the united states to stand up and say the private sector is doing fine? he's going -- is going to go down in history -- history as an extraordinary miscalculation and misunderstanding by a president who's out of touch and we're going to take back this country and get america working again. bill: as the back and forth continues, it's back again to a campaign adviser for the president who's now making headlines for his comment. you'll hear it.
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martha: a a mega church pastor has been child with -- charged with child penalty. president of world ministries in atlanta denies charges he choked and punched his 15-year-old daughter during an argument. the daughter admits the conversation with her was intense, but says the details are exaggerated. >> i want to say this very emphatically. i should have never been arrested. truth is, that a family conversation with our youngest daughter got emotional. and emotions got involved and things escalated from there. martha: the daughter -- the 19-year-old daughter says she saw the whole thing as well and she says her sister is telling the truth. bill: 14 minutes past the hour now. a supreme court decision on health care could come at any moment literally but the nation's largest insurer is not waiting for that call, united health care announcing today it plans to
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keep parts of the law in place regardless of how the court rules. wyoming senator john barrasso is chairman and senator of public coal pe -- policy committee. good morning to you. you are also a physician which makes you uniquely qualified for go through this. united health care says it will keep parts of the law regardless of what the supreme court says, including if you're up to age 26 you can stay on your parent's plan. >> i think that's something folks agreed to before this bill was signed into law, that kids are in college, graduate school, to let them stay on their parent's plan until they're launched. by 26 you'd expect them to be established. i agreed with this, 2 1/2, three years ago. this is why you should do step by step health care reform, making positive steps in the right direction that help patients get the care they need from the doctor that they choose at a lower cost, but the 2700 page law which today the supreme court may make the
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ruling i think is unconstitutional. i don't think washington ought to be able to come into our house and say you should buy. bill: let me get to that point. you're making the case that democrats and republicans have agreed on a number of initiatives over the years, why not do those instead of a comprehensive health care law. >> you're not going to see coming out of republicans if this is repealed or the supreme court throws it out a 2700 page substitute. not going to happen. bill: why is it a good idea if my son or daughter is on my health insurance until they're 26. shouldn't they go off and get their own deal? eventually you got to cut the cord, right? this is a why gdz -- a good idea. >> there's a cost to that and as the president said, they can stay on for free. if you have a number of children, the family plan is going to cost different than if you don't have a full family plan, but to allow them to stay on that family plan, i think, just helps the family until that person is out of school, established in life and moving on.
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bill: united health care weighs in on that. illinois, this is a democratic state, democratic legislature, democratic governor, and they're having a hard time setting up these health exchanges that are ordered by this law. now, why is that? what's the rub here? >> well, this is a very cumbersome law that the regulations come out, they contradict each other. you have over half the states in the country aren't even want to go pursue this until they see what the supreme court says, which is why i've introduced legislation called the state health care choice act, to give states flexibility and choice in whether they want to actually even follow the law. bill: we're talking about some -- perhaps messy reverberations, regardless of what the supreme court does. as we sit here today, what do you think they do? >> i think they're going to throw out part of t i hope they throw out all of it. "new york times"' recent survey last week, two-thirds of americans want all or part of the health care law
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to be found unconstitutional. bill: what would be the effect of that, though, if they took the all law and chucked it? >> then i think you work together in a step by step way to get something done, not this 2700 page law that is -- james madison said you shouldn't pass laws so voluminous they can't be read, so incoherent they can't be understood but that's what we have with this health care law. it's the government making decisions. bill: if you get your wish, is that chaos or what is that? >> i don't think it's chaos. first of all it eliminates a number of the onerous taxes that are part of this health care law. i think this health care law is one that will bankrupt the country, it will get rid of so many of the mandates. right now you read that colleges that have provided insurance for their students are droping it this fall. why? because what they've provided in the past was low cost insurance that actually applied to college students that could get their insurance that way and under the health care law that doesn't meet the high bar the government sets of
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government-approved insurance, and if you go to that higher level, remember all the unions that got waivers from that? these colleges said we'd have to quadruple what we charge students. forget it, we're not going to offer insurance at all. bill: we're on standby. it may come today or in two weeks. >> it will be this month, though. thank you for having me. bill: martha what's next? martha: going beyond the reform for public unions, a state governor with huge national influence, saying that unions have to go completely. bill: also potentially deadly stunt caught on tape. watch here, the whole video and the outrage over it. what's up? >> edwards, swinging, and you have shocked the world! >> bill: stoney brook, making history, national champ, lsu tigers, a major
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bill: have you seen this new video, shows dangerous stunt? here is a man climbing out of his car, driving through an overpass. this is in china, keeping one hand on the wheel, another driver took the video from behind, as you see. he says the daredevil almost caused him to crash. i bet. people in china are not amused, calling the guy out for putting lives at risk. martha: give me a break. so the child sex abuse
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case against jerry sandusky opening today in a pennsylvania courtroom. the former penn state assistant football coach will most likely face all of his accusers in that courtroom, and this promises to be very dramatic and very upsetting no doubt for a lot of these families. david lee miller is live in belfont, pennsylvania. what do we know about the composition of this jury? >> reporter: one of the things worth noting marsha is that the members of the jury, a number of them have very significant ties to penn state, more than half are in some way connected to the university, one woman, for example, has been a season ticket holder we are told for decades. let me give you a little better idea of the jury composition. there are seven women and five men on the jury. one of whom has been a penn state professor for the last 24 years, another has been an administrative assistant on campus, another is a senior this year at penn state and still another is going to begin school at penn state in the fall, and interestingly martha, you might recall that the defense here decided it did not want to change a venue,
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they wanted a local jury, they say the entire country has heard about this case and they feel they have just as good a shot as any here in mr. sandusky's home town area. martha: boy david that is striking how many on that jury have a very close relationship with the school and as you say, pretty much everyone in that community has some kind of tie to penn state. what about the defendant, have you seen him arriving yet this morning? >> a short time ago, he arrived, about ten minutes after 8:00, the trial is underway, the opening statements, and i had the chance to look mr. sandusky in the eye as he entered the car of his attorney. there is a gag order but nevertheless i still asked him the inoccuous question how are you doing this morning and he looked me in the eye, kind of shrug like doing okay, not many words and then walked inside the courthouse for the start of his trial. earlier we also saw a significant amount of evidence being brought into the courthouse by the prosecutors, among the items we saw a ski board, we saw
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golf clubs. these are believed to be gifts that mr. sandusky allegedly gave to some of the alleged victims. as soon as today, we could hear from one of the alleged victims. lastly martha, take a look at the front of the courthouse itself. there are seats reserved inside for close to 200 journalists alone. the entire town of belfont has been invaded by live truck after live truck, satellite trucks, reporters from all around the country. people here say they can't wait for this trial to end. it's not going to happen any time soon. it's expected to last about three weeks. martha: boy, there's going to be a lot of focus and attention on this and a very emotional time for that whole community. david lee, thank you very much. bill: the reporters and satellite trucks are up and down the sidewalks out there. it's a mess. a manhunt now for a killer. u.s. marshals now on the search for the gunman, after a deadly shooting near auburn university. at least a couple of football players, they've been shot and killed. the latest in a live report on that manhunt is coming up
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here. martha: boy, how about this? the president said on friday that the private sector is doing just fine. a statement that his republican rivals have jumped on as out of touch. so what do the numbers actually say about the private sector? is it doing fine? a fair and balanced debate, coming up. [ male announcer ] it's back again at red lobster, but not for long!
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martha: president obama's campaign doing damage control after critics blasted words he made regarding private jobs. the private sector has lost 4.6 million jobs since 2008. here are his original comments on this. >> overall the private sector has been doing a good job creating jobs. we've seen record profits in the corporate sector. the private sector is doing fine. martha: that's what got all the attention right there. senior campaign adviser david axelrod pushed back against repeated questions from outlets regarding those remarks. >> is the private sector doing fine? >> the private sector, we need to accelerate job creation in the private sector. >> i want to know from the administration, whether you believe the private sector is
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doing fine. is it doing better? >> it's certainly doing better than the public sector, 4.3 million jobs created in the last 27 months. martha: kristen powers is a daily beast columnist, richard lowry is also with us. kiss tin, how damaging its it? >> i think it's one of those things that probably would be better if it didn't hapb. th didn't happen. the republicans definitely jumped on it. the president i think was being so offhanded when he said that, and the question is, did he really think that the public sector was fine or was he saying as compared to the public's sector. white house's argument was we didn't mean they were fine overall, it was just sort of a comparison. i think it certainly would have
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been better if he hadn't said it. martha: how average stph-g. >> it wildo you feel. >> i think it will dog him until november. just because we've had positive numbers in the private sector, that it's doing fine, those numbers are anemic. we should be adding 300 jobs a jo if we were really cooking along, we are nowhere near that. he really has drunk the kool-aid and believes that local and state employment are an important driver of the effect, when we've lost i think since the beginning of our session about 400,000 jobs at state, local, federal, level, that is a drop in the bucket. 84% of people work in the private sector. you need to get the private sector going. the public sector is just an
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after thought, but the city doesn't understand that. martha: one of the issues, kirsten is that he thinks some jobs are better, more valuable than others. there is this motion out there that he is antibusiness, and small businesses are the largest drivers of the private sector. it's not jpmorgan. it's folks who own stores, people who have gone out of business. how much traction have you lost with that group that looks up and says, really? really? rile, w we're fine? we don't feel fine. >> the point he was making was that -- wasn't that the public sector jobs were more important, it's just of the loss in public sector jobs because the states don't have money, and originally we hadn't seen that much loss there because of the similar lust, that now that's the drag. i tonight think that is accurate
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that that's what is going on. it's overstating that as being a fundamental problem. what is problematic also is if you notice when he said that he referred to corporate profits being up. that's actually true, wall street it is actually doing well. but what about small businesses? i think that's problematic. martha: i want to play a john mccain campaign moment that a lot of people look at and said this was a turning point for him. let's listen to john mccain. >> the fundamentals of our economy are strong but these are very, very difficulty times. martha: rich a lot of people pointed back to that moment as a very tough one for herma john mccain. no one felt that the fundamentals were strong and also the fact that not a lot of people now what he meant.
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>> the obama campaign was phers mer kreurbg merciless. >> the difference of course is john mccain is a republican. the media ran with that, and helped with that storyline. it remains to be seen whether or not that is going to happen with obama's gaffe. martha: kristen, reach, thank you very much. we'll talk to you more about this. bill: breaking news on one of our top stories now. john bricen cited for felony hit-and-run following two car accidents over the weekend. late saturday afternoon in los angeles. we are getting a report from the associationed press that he suffered a seizure in connection with that incident. that is coming from his office in washington that word.
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from los angeles a lieutenant with the l.a. county sheriff's department is with me now. good morning to you. >> good morning, sir. bill: can you confirm he suffered a seizure on saturday. >> i cannot. after the second collision occurred in the sheriff's jurisdiction the secretary was found unconscious behind the wheel and i don't know what his medical condition was twet. >> he was tested for drugs and alcohol, that right? >> yes. bill: and those tests proved negative is that correct. >> not all the test are in yet sir. bill: the city of rosemead is how far from the counsel of san gabriel? >> bordering cities. the date tans between the first collision and second collision, i'm not exactly sure but it's probably only a do you mean of miles apart. bill: this was 5:00 in the afternoon, late saturday, right. >> correct.
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bill: what happened in the first incident, lieutenant. >> the information we have is that the vehicle driven by the secretary was involved in a collision, and he did contact the occupants of the other vehicle, but then left the scene, which makes it a hit-and-run collision. bill: i see. i understand he got out of the car and spoke to the gentleman that he hit, is that correct? >> that's what our understanding is yes. bill: then he got back in the car and drove on to the city of rosemead. >> correct. bill: the first people he had contact with, they followed him, right, lieutenant. >> yes, sir. bill: what did they observe with him driving. >> i don't have any information as to their observations. bill: what happened in rosemead then? >> there was a second collision in rosemead and this was not a hit-and-run, because he did stop the version and as mentioned earlier he was unconscious behind the wheel at the time. bill: he was unconscious behind the wheel when he struck the
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second car? >> when they contacted them. bill: was he contacted at the point where he struck the second car or was this a third location? >> no, it was at that scene there. bill: it was at that scene in rosemead then. so you have two different locations to srefplgt is your investigation complete at this point, sir? >> the city of san gabriel police is investigating the first collision, the hit-and-run. the sheriff's department is investigating the second collision which was not a hit-and-run collision. bill: and lieutenant the rest of the testing, is that days or weeks before that information comes back? >> i'm not exactly sure what type of test are being done, and i could than give you a timeframe. bill: we'll be in touch with you and your office, okay, to try to get more facts as to what happened on saturday. i appreciate your time now, though, sir, thank you very much. 21 minutes before the hour now, martha. martha: after governor scott walker's big win another
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governor says it's time for public unions to go for good. bill: all a school band students not allowed to sing "god pwhrets usa." >> proud to be an american is a song that everyone who is an american should be proud to song. that should be a song that everybody should be able to sing with no problem. wake up!
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martha: a car fire turns into inferno at an apartment complex in indiana. a lack of water may be to blame. the flames bursting and spreading in noblesville. it got worst when firefighters got trouble getting water out of the high tkrafpblts the the hydrants. they had to stretch hoses a couple blocks away, houses were
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destroyed. people who lived there are in shock. >> it was something that blew up in front of the carport earth garages in fronor garages in front of our building. >> where is the water? the fire can spread pretty quick. when hoses get run from 146th street all the way down here, that is quite a while. >> the water should have been there. it makes you -- anything can happen at any time, everybody should be prepared for stuff like this. >> that's everything i own is gone. martha: water should have been there. that really says it all. we are getting word from the police that they are looking for a boy who was seen inside the car minutes before it caught fire. we are on that story. we'll get you more as it comes in. bill: some kind of flames. fresh off wisconsin governor's scott walkers victory the governor of indiana has a message or unions. here is mitch daniels on
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sunday. >> are you saying you'd like to see no public worker unions? >> i think really government works better without them, i really do. you know, in our state we had a 16-year run with so-called collective bargaining and we did end it. and i want to say that although it led to the saving of large amounts of tax dollars, it wasn't principle plea about that. we had 150 pages of shackles of government able to deliver services better. bill: d. rock murdoch is a columnist and syndicated columnist. a lot of people may lose sight of the fact that mitch dan wre daniel was doing this before scott walker, why was he so successful? >> he didn't have a lot of controversy. in wisconsin you saw the tremendous protest, followed by
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effort to out a supreme court justice who was sympathetic. they tried a recall that failed miss rally last week. i think that mitch daniels is able to talk about the idea of getting rid of government workers completely is the important thing. bill: they are all trying to figure out how they interpret the vote from wisconsin. how do you interpret this? >> i think this will be something like prop 13 back in 1978. it was an effort by howard jar jarvis to keep the taxes down. it will be the beginning of all sorts of states and cities making major rollbacks in pension and benefits expenses. bill: keep in mind what walkers did. he had workers contribute more to their retirement fund basically. >> for example, the taxpayers' share of health benefits i believe was about 94 cents on
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the dollar. i chopped it all the way down to 87 and he's treated as if he's thrown these people on the street. taxpayers in wisconsin are paying 87-cents of the benefits, they are down from 94. he was described by adolf hitler by some of hits opponents. bill: nobody lost their job in wisconsin. >> because they were able to lower the benefit expenses the people were able to stay on board. he says look if we don't this i'll have to have mass firings, which he didn't do. >> what are other governors doing? >> some of them are responding different ways. andrew cuomo is doing some of the things scott walker has done. he rolled back the retirement page there 61 to 62, i think that should go higher but it's moving in the right direction. in illinois you've got governor scott quinn who largely has done what the unions wanted. the teachers union are going to
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go on strike in chicago if they don't get a 30% pay hike. who in illinois is seeing that kind of a pay hike. bill: this is a battle that is going to play out on its own. it already has. independent was different from ohio, ohio was different from wisconsin. is it making the states healthier economically? >> i think the expenses that they are seen is absurd and ridiculous. the average private sector employ either makes about $61,000 a year in sal ryan benefits. federal workers 120. they are making double what people are in the public sector. this is out of balance. bill: perhaps your point is well-taken. -frbeveryone knows a teacher, a firefighter, a police officer is not an easy thing to do. >> i appreciate their service. i don't think it's at all
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unreasonable to say look the incredible imbalance has to be brought down. pension spiking should end. if you work for 20 years your spepbgs is base spepbgs is based on your last three or four years of work. and they do a lot of extra work to jack it. we're out of money, that's the key point. bill: to our cuers, hemmerrer hemmerrer & fox news.com. because you asked online right now. thank you, sir. martha: scott walker has advice for governor mitt romney, while the wisconsin governor says the r next to romney's name needs to stand for much more than just republican. bill: a graduation speech that some high school students will not soon forget. why he told them quote, to consider themselves not so special. oh, joy.
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bill: seven minutes before the hour. new american students trapped in a snowstorm? new zealand will be okay. they survived nine days in the wild while rationing their supplies of trail mix and keeping hot in warm springs. those full body scanners run by the tsa at airports might not be so bad for your health after all. they found that scanners do not expose passengers to dangerous levels of radiation. the tony awards, a big night for the broadway musical "once."
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it winning again and again capturing the eight top awards, including the top prize for best musical that is based on a cinderella story. [music playing] [singing] martha: my daughter went to it. she said it was fabulous, really, really good. a big night for them, that's good. moving right along. this morning we have new details for you in the manhunt for a gunman in a deadly shooting here the auburn university campus in alabama. three men were shot dead over the weekend, two of them were former auburn university football players. three others were injured. the violence broke out during a pool party on saturday night. the auburn police chief saying he has no doubt that the authorities will get their man. >> i have a lot of confidence in
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the montgomery police department and the u.s. marshals and my folks that are down there. i just feel like we'll find him today. if not we won't stop until we do. martha: we are live with the latest in ba alabama. what is going on with this search at this point? >> it's ongoing, it's very much heating up today. we spoke with the police chief who says he is confident they will catch him today. they came very close last night, not releasing any details about. he says he's confident they will catch him today. they have a multiagency $15,000 reward for his capture. he also says that he is responsible for the city's deadliest shooting in history, so the search is stretching from auburn all the way to montgomery. they are also search for new persons of interest in this case. he says they will not release the names of those two men unless that's needed. but remember, like i said, this is now a multiagency search including the f.b.i., as well as the u.s u.s. marshals and local
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police and sheriff's deputies. martha: it's a terrible tragedy. the rain is what people are hearing in our live spot. it's a gulf storm. what is the reaction to this tragedy? >> very much a city in mourning. all six of the shooting victims not even the legal drinking age. three of the shooting victims were a part of the tiger's football family. we heard from the head coach, he released a statement and it read, my thoughts and prayers are with the families and all of the victims involved in this tragic incident. nobody should ever have to endure such unimaginable grief and we will love and support the victims' families during this terribly difficult time. this is from the head coach, and this is very much a community in mourning today, and the manhunt will continue and will heat up throughout the day. martha. bill: we have breaking news in the investigation on fast and furious, lawmakers set to hold the attorney general eric holder in contempt of congress.
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martha: fox news alert setting the date to vote on the contempt of congress citation for attorney general eric holder. eric holder facing unprecedented fallout, accused of withholding evidence from investigators in the fast and furious gun running sting. that's how we get started on a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." good morning i'm. >> caller: bill: i'm bill hemmer. good morning, mart that. thmartha. owe testified last week that the justice department has fully cooperated. martha: good morning, steve, we've been going back and forth on this for a while. there has been a lot of talk that contempt charges would be brought against eric holder because he did not bring forth
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the documents required. is this going to happen? >> if you're darrell issa you've been pushing and pushing for full cooperation for more than a year and you haven't got even it. the administration continues to respond by not answering the questions that are asked and answering the questions they choose to answer. instead of saying, yes we will provide every document you've subpoenaed or asked for, all they will say is we've provided tens of thousands of documents. that's not answering the question that's been asked. martha: the question that was asked is did you do do the research in the department of justice to answer the specific questions we've put forward to you in the subpoena. eric holder said they gave huge numbers of documents that they turned over. they were not meeting in their lines of thinking in that hearing and at th and testimony. we had an original date of memorial day for contempt charges to be filed. now darrell issa this is it will
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definitely happen before the 4th of july. and that brings us to the business week of next week, right? >> it does. i think there is some question inside the republican party, both in the house and the party more broadly as to whether it's wise to talk about these things, to go after eric holder right now, to hit the obama administration with contempt charges. it's a major escalation in this pursuit of documents at a time when i think republicans want to be talking about the economy, they want to be talking about the unemployment rate, they want to be focusing on the obama administration in that way. there is a disagreement inside the republican party as to which is the wiser course at this point. martha: darrell issa says i'm going to keep doing my job. i'm going to go forward and press for this investigation. and i'm waiting for john boehner to do his job and whether or not he's going to give me the go ahead on this. right? >> you have to be sympathetic to darrell issa somewhat.
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he has been trying to get these answers and documents and at ever turn the administration is saying, we didn't know about it in washington, and changing their story, again and again and again, he's not getting the answers he needs. martha: the administration feels that time is on their side in this one they would like to see it handled through their own investigation that may drag out until after the election. steve hayes thank you very much. bill: there are new developments into the leaks of national security secrets. senator john mccain said, quote americans should be deeply disturbed by classified release of intel. and he says the blame should be on the white house. >> i don't think it's a any dout that it came from the administration. we need to find out who and what as best we can, and a special council is obviously the way to do it. >> does the buck stop with the president? >> i think all presidents have
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that responsibility, and i would think that the person most eager to get this thing investigated would be the president of the united states. bill: kel here wright picks up from there. good morning in washington to you, kelly. republicans are concerned about who is conducting the investigation into the leak. why would that be? >> well, here is why. republican lawmakers are concerned because they don't believe the administration can conduct an effective investigation into these leaks. the g.o.p. has a very sour relationship with attorney general eric holder as we've just discussed. he has appointed two u.s. attorneys to figure out who was behind the number of leaks. that includes intelligence on cyber attacks against iran and the president's so-called a kill list of terror suspects. some g.o.p. lawmakers bill wanted independent counsel to investigate the matter. congressman peter king of new york, republican, telling fox news he pwhraoefts the leaks came righbelieves the leaks came right from the white house and they made the claim to say
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the president is using the leaks to bolster his image. >> no one wants to know what the president is doing. he shouldn't be talking about drone programs. >> some of the leaks are selfdescribed aids arpeople in the situation room, that's a pretty small group of people. my investigation to the attorney general is, good start maybe but we need to find out if they'll have that independence. >> president obama has responded to his critics late last week saying his white house is not trying to bolster his image adding not only is it not true but it's offensive even to suggest it. you have the president fighting back. bill: how are democrats responding to this. kelly. >> like the g.o.p. they are very concerned about the leaks because of the nature of the threat to national security. at the same time, they are defending the president. here is dianne feinstein. >> i take the president at face value, and as chairman rogers
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said the investigation has to be nonpartisan, it's got to be vigorous and move ahead rapidly. >> excuse me sends dianne feinstein adding that the two investigative teams have the opportunity right now to get to the bottom of these leaks. but we heard republican senator john mccain talking about it as well. one thing that is happening here on capitol hill with regards to these leaks, something that we don't see, there is bi-partisanship, by part ta shan outrage over the fact that the leaks happened in the first place. bill: we will talk to peter king, chairman of the house homeland security committee. peter king, republican out of new york is live in 20 minutes. stay tuned for that coming up. martha: this fox news alert right now out of pakistan, a bomb strapped to a motorbike store through a passenger bus and it killed six people. look at these pictures. women and children were among those killed on that bus, more than 30 waoepl wer 30 people
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were injured. the bomb went out as the bus went by. bill: ousted president hosni mubarak possibly on his death bed. a defibrillator was used on his heart twice to keep his heart beating. he's been slipping in and out of consciousness at a hospital. this a week after he was sentenced to life behind bars, convicted of killing his own people after massive uprisings last year. he has an irregular heartbeat and we are told he is living only on liquids. martha: almost two feet of rain in a flash in alabama and in florida, flooding hundreds of homes, turning streets literally into rivers. stranding drivers in all of this. watch this. bill: we didn'. >> we didn't know it was rain this hard when we come to pensacola. it's deep, real deep, deeper than i thought it had been. >> i never seen it get this high
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in this area before. it's tough, but we'll make it out all right. martha: maria molina joins me from the fox extreme weather center. >> reporter: we are looking at more showers and thunderstorms overt next five days, martha in the city of pens coal louisiana. and it will be also in mobile, alabama. we saw incredible amounts of rainfall. you can see the showers and thunderstorms lingering across that part of the country. across southern portions of alabama and the florida panhandle right now. some of the tropical moisture is making its way across portions of georgia and south carolina. the one bit of good news for this area is that we're actually in a drought, severe to extreme drought. even though we got too much water too fast and saw flooding some of this will be bringing relief to drought conditions across the country. we broke a record in pensacola, florida. the second wettest day with
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13.13-inch et cetera of rain call out there. we are expecting more rainfall overt next five days. we'll keep a close watch on it. possibly more flooding. the flash flood watches have been allowed to exfire. martha: thank you ver expire. martha: thank you very much. bill: scott walker giving advice to governor mitt romney. >> i hope he goes big and bold. i think he has the capacity to do that. i don't think we win if it's just about a referendum on barack obama. bill: why he says the r should stand for more than republican. martha: very interesting from scott walker. we'll talk too brit hume about that. days of torrential rain wreaking havoc in china. forcing a daring rescue that you have to see to believe. bill: also the important achievement for millions of students across the country. high school graduation. there's one teacher making headlines for a harsh message to the graduating class. >> you conquered high school and inch dispute plea here we have
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>> we want to bring you up to date right now, a developing story the commerce department is saying that john bryson had a seizure in connection with a couple of car accidents on saturday. two different times, in san gabriel and rosemead, california. we talked to a lieutenant last hour there in southern california. he said drugs and alcohol were not detected, but there's testing going at the moment, and the results of those tests have not come back. however, what he also toeulsd told us is that they found the secretary slumped over the wheel at second location where he struck a second car. he passed out at that location. he was treated and released overnight saturday night and is
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back in washington d.c. his office says it was a seizure. we'll get more when we get it. martha: scott walker offered pointed advice for governor mitt romney. he says the presidential candidate needs to make this race about something more than just a referendum on president obama. listen. >> i think governor romney's got a shot if the r next to his name doesn't just wand for republican, it stands for reform, if he shows my state and americans that he has a plan to take on those reforms. i think the real difference in what the president said this week is sepl pell, the president and his allies say success is defined by how many people are dependent on government programs. i think i and governor romney believe just the opposite. martha: very interesting. we are joined by brit hume, fox news senior political analyst. good morning. >> good to see you. martha: scott walker is coming off of a nice victory.
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what i heard in that is he wants mitt romney to be more bold and speak out about real reform, perhaps with unions, or perhaps with tax reforms, issues we haven't heard him be all that bold about, brit. >> if you look carefully you'll note he has pretty bold plans that he has supported, he's endorsed basically the outlines of the ryan budget i have is pretty bold and controversial. he has a tax plan that is pretty aggressive, a lot more aggressive than the initial one he came out with. so he's on record, martha, with some reasonably bold items. but the question is how much emphasis he gives them as he campaigns across the country, and whether he should take any chances in turning the election into a refe referendum on him and his ideas as opposed to it being a referendum on barack obama and his results. martha: what do you make about the sort of charge at the end of what scott walker said. he needs to be more than run against president obama's record.
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needs to be seen by the american people as a real reformer. when you think that word right now in national politics. you think scott walker, perhaps chris christie, perhaps in some circles, bob mcdonald, mitch daniels, or even andrew cuomo. people don't necessarily talk about mitt romney at this moment as a real reformer. >> as a political matter, martha it is a very important decision. one theory of this race basically goes this way. barack obama's record is bad. this will be a referendum on him. all the challenger really needs to do when it gets down to the key moment is be an acceptable and plausible alternative, someone people are not fight end by or worried about, that they think is a responsible person who would take the country in a now and different direction. the view among a lot of conservatives is that romney needs to do what walker says, that he needs to outline a very bold agenda, akin to the one that ronald reagan ran on back
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in 1980, and that will be the kind of positive set of ideas that will draw people to him and make him 4 within the rac win the race on his own positive agenda. it's not clear what view is right. martha: and it's not clear if he is that man, if that's who he is and that's the kind of candidate that he wants to be. i was thinking back to the 08 election and john mccain and sarah palin used reform a lot. they said they were reformers, that was the platform they were running on and yet that message at least at the top of the ticket i think did not really resonate with voters. they didn't see john mccain as a real reformer. >> i don't know whether they saw him as a real reform error not. the problem in that race was people were deeply dissatisfied with the results that the republican party and its president had bought them. although mccain had disagreed with president bush on a number of issues he was not sufficiently differentiated from him i think.
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the other thing, mart that, the kind of bad news that fell like an avalanche on the republican party on the 15th of september, 2008. i said i didn't think abraham lincoln could have won that election. martha: certainly looking back now. in terms of a real reformer the kind of person we're talking about, do you see mitt romney putting somebody like that as the vp part of his ticket? because that is another big question when it comes to the scott walker -- >> maybe, maybe. my sense about it is that romney is cautious. and what he's likely to do is pick somebody to whom people would immediately react by saying to themselves, oh, yeah, that person do be president, phraus plea. phrau plausibly. how bold he will be behind that
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remains to be seen. a safe choice might be rob portman, although he's got the bush connection, because he was george w. bush's budget chief. there are a number of others as well and he could go to bob mcdonald, there are a lot of ways he could go. elections are very rarely decided on the basis, if every, really, of the vice presidental choice and how significant t sin ta latincintilatig that person might be. martha: we'll talk to you soon. bill: there is fallout over the alleged leak of white house documents. peter king says the president is trying to be like john wayne. we'll ask him about that, he is live in a moment. martha: a live look in the syrian city of homs, government forces said to be shelling this city again. when will this stop? we'll tell you what prompted the latest wave of violence in syria when we come back. ♪
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with more choices and fewer calories, america's beverage companies are delivering. martha: 23 minutes past the hour now. and heavy rains triggering a landslide at a mountain resort in taiwan killing two workers and burying part of a highway, stranding some one thousand people in tour buses. the defense in the roger clemens perjury trial planning to wrap-up your case today. the lawyer for the former pitching ace saying that he may wall one or more winter. clemens is accused of lying to congress about using steroids. drivers in oregon watching a bizarre sight, a hot air balloon touching down on the interstate, the operator saying it got too wind tee to land in the normal spot. they were okay, though, bill. bill: which gives us a reason to play that song. [singing]
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martha: thank you. never ride a balloon on the interstate. bill: it hit the pavement. martha: you get a ticket for that too. bill: fox news alert now, these are live pictures of the aftermath of shelling in the syrian city of homs. we have brand-new reports that rebel leaders have now gained control of the military base near that city. here is the scene only moments ago, watch this. [gunfire] bill: that is a full out war. 35 reported dead. conor powell watches it ow all from our middle east bureau. is the opposition gaining ground, connor? >> reporter: it's tough to say they are gaining ground but they certainly have intensified attacks since the u.n. agreement has collapsed. there are reports that rebels took over a syrian air defense site in the area of homs. we don't know what all was at that location, how big it was. but it does seem significant
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that the rebels are able to press up against syrian bases and take over maybe syrian military facilities. there are also reports that the syrian army are relying more and more on helicopters in whoms and other parts of the country because the rebels are inflicting significant casualties on the syrian army. the syrian foreign ministry has said that rebels are using new antitank missiles. the rebels appear to have new weapons and are intensifying their attacks. how much ground they are gaining is not clear. they are making a big push against the syrian military, bill. bill: is there any progress diplomatically, or is that just a joke, connor. >> reporter: koffi anan said the country is heading towards a civil what are. many people think it is in a civil what are. he is calling on all sides to protect civilians who are particularly caught in the crossfire in the war in syria. this appears to be part of the
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main reason they are calling on the sides to protect civilians, is because diplomatically they are not able to stop the violence. it appears they are trying to lens the impact on the civilian population, because there just simply isn't a plan to stop that violence, bill. bill: conor powell from jerusalem watching developments today. martha what is next. martha: g.o.p. lawmakers came out swinging against president obama. they accuse -d white house of knowingly releasing classified intelligence. the leaks are now subject of a federal investigation. >> here we have the president of the united states talking about how he has baseball cards. he's checking off who is there, who is not there. the reports of david axelrod were there when the decisions were made. martha: the white house said that none of that happened, that the leaks did not come from the white house. could the president's seem have orchestrated the leaks? that is the big question the g.o.p. folks are pushing. we'll talk to the congressman and find out what he think abouts that, he'll be here next. bill: shocking moment caught on live tv.
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administration of making it public on purpose, including john mccain who said this on fox a bit earlier today. >> here we are with the two most important covert operations going on, and they are ongoing, and clearly it puts people's lives at reus be. risk. i don't think there is any doubt it came from the administration. we need to find out who and what as best we can. i would think that the person most owing tkpwar to get this thing investigated would be the president of the united states. bill: i want to bring in peter king, new york congressman, chairman much the security committee. welcome to our program. you called the president john wayne, or george patton or both, what is behind that? >> because it was obvious from reading these stories that the administration is trying to give the president glory, showing what an outstanding war commander he is. let me make it clear, i have said i think the president has done a very good job as far as
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combating terrorism overseas. i gave him full credit for the osama bin laden raid, the operations he's been carrying out, i support them. my point is that none of this should ever be made public. it's obvious it was being contrived, it was portrayed in a way i said john wayne and george patton yesterday, they compare him to white house aides the top aides of the president describing them, a scholar already and what are year at the same time. that is great nor campaign if you're talking about material out in the open. but to be using classified, sensitive, top secret information -- and this isn't just me saying it as far as the type of information, democrats are saying it, senator feinstein said it was an unprecedented avalanche of classified information coming out. the difference is whether or not you believe it came from the administration. john mccain and i believe it has to. bill: there are a couple of things i need to go through here.
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here is david axelrod on cbs this morning. >> the last thing that he would want, the last thing anyone in the white house wants is to do anything that would jeopardize those missions or jeopardize those americans. so he's as outraged about it as any. and as you well know we've been attacked for being too hard on leaks, for going after leakers too hard. this administration as been tougher on that than anyone. so this is a bit of falderall of the election season. bill: is it just the election season or is he outraged as anyone. >> absolutely not. if the president was so outraged he never said a word about the leaking of the yemen plot several weeks ago, which was the highest infiltration we've ever had of al-qaida in the arabian peninsula. he didn't say a word when the stories appeared in the new york times until john mccain demanded a special council be appointed. the president didn't say a word. his outrage should have been the day that first story appeared in
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the new york times. certainly when the second-story appeared when it said people in and room, people in the white house, people in the oval office were recounting these personal conversations with the president and all these details are coming out on perhaps the most classified program we have. bill: you believe "the new york times" argument makes it apparent who the leaks came from, who the sources could have been or were? >> absolutely. they talk about the white house situation room, they talk about the oval office, they talk about aides and advisers to the president. they quote people saying that this is a classified program so you can't use our name. there is nobody else this could have come from. this isn't like some program where a small detail has been begin out which could come from a mid level person or a relatively high level person. we are talking about the president's actual words he said, what went on at the meetings, how decisions were made, what they factored in, all of which dealt with classifies information that would only come from somebody close to the president. bill: from the department of justice once the investigation begins, does that freeze all the
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information? are you and the public locked out of this? >> no, not necessarily. in fact the intelligence committee. mike rogers in the house is doing a terrific job in the intelligence committee. we can still go ahead. you don't do it in way that gets too public. it could compromise a subsequent indictment. bill: do you recommend then -- can the attorney general be objective on this do you believe or is this matter of outside counsel? >> i am not certain yet. the reason i say that is we have not seen the letter that the attorney general has begin to these two u.s. attorneys. under the law the attorney general is still in charge. he can give as much power as he wants to those two u.s. attorneys that he's brought n. i think it's essential that they are given full power, have full right as far as staff, as far as investigators, as far as grand jury witnesses, as far as subpoenas, and ultimately deciding whether or not this will be an indictment. the attorney general should be out of the process all
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together. he can only do that by giving a formal letter to the two u.s. attorneys and that's what he should do. give that letter and show it to the public. bill: i'm out of time, but quickly you mentioned al-qaida in yemen. that is the hot spot. and now we've been exposed there. >> yeah. bill: how long lit take for u.s. intelligence to get back inside that organization in yemen? >> i have spoken to people in the cia, they are very disturbed. they can get the job done, it makes it much more difficult and it puts american lives at risk to have these programs exposed this way. bill: peter king, thank you for your time. >> thank you. martha: we're learning about a big scare for the prime minister david cameron and his wife satisfactory man that. the british prime minister confirmed that yes he actually did leave his 8-year-old daughter at a public according to his office the incident happened a few months ago, it was during sunday lunch, folks. this is basically like going to a restaurant with your family on a sunday. after they finished eating hits daughter nancy went into the bathroom and everybody piled
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into two cars and they didn't realize she was actually still in there. mr. cameron and his wife panicked like any parent would. when they said oh, my gosh, where is nancy they found her safe and sound. they were only separated from her about 15 minutes. i contend that this is not such a big deal. bill: mother of three it happens all the time. it can happen sometimes. martha: actually it's not happened to me. i can see how it would happen. there is a big group of them, they all get into the car and you think, well he's with her. then you realize it's a home alone situation. you haven't flown across the ocean. they make it sound like a president bush but it's a restaurant. bill: a man who sparked a brawl on national tv filing a lawsuit. the man is 31 years old, spokesman for greece's far right wing political party, slapping one politician, throwing a glass of water at another during a live tv show. that's one way to debate. he is suing two opposing
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candidates and the television network a cushion them of unprovoked insult and illegally detaining him. they kept him here was the police issued a warrant for his arrest. i don't know what they were saying become and forth but it sure was fascinating to watch there. martha: awful, terrible. you don't hit women across the table like that bill hemmer. be outraged it's oerbl. bill: horrible. another school deciding that patriotism doesn't have a place in the school classroom. we will break down what has become a huge, builter graduation confrontation. bill: what a message, right? speaking of commencement it might be the toughest graduation speech we've heard today. why some parents are applauding this massachusetts teacher for this message. >> my only version of perfect. i don't disagree. so that makes 6.8 billion examples of perfection,
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bill: justin bieber's baby kay for akin der garth ten graduation. that is a song that martha and i listen to every day. not god bless the usa. administrators banned lee greenwood's song, the principal saying she did not believe it was age appropriate. martha: what? bill: here is a young boy who wanted to sing the patriotic song a bit earlier live on television. ♪ [sing san gabriel. >> i am proud to be an american, at least i know i'm free ... ♪
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bill: all right. i think he's six, right,. martha: he was so excited to be on tv. he kept looking at himself in the monitor, a big smile would break out across his face. he was adorable. he sings it pretty well. i think lee greenwood must be worried. bill: worried big time. greenwood's song caused controversy before. they took out the god bless the usa leer eubgs at lyrics at an assembly. martha: a massachusetts english teacher gives high school graduates a real reality check during a commencement speech on friday, here is some of it. >> you're not special. you're not exceptional. contrary to what your soccer trophies suggest, your glowing 7th grade report card, despite every assurance of a concern
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purple dinosaur, nice mr. rogers, and your aunt sylv sylvia. despite how many times the caped crusader has swooped into save you, you are not special. martha: several people are defending his peach. michael graham joins me he's a columnist at the "boston herald." >> i thought the best part of the beach was whe the speech was when he was saying, baby, baby, baby, by justin bieber. some people called in, we got excerpts over it. iin some cities they are
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talking about changing grades and giving everyone the same grade. this notion of everyone is the same and everyone gets a cupcake i. thought my listeners would be a a hundred percent with them. it was about 75-25. one mom came in and said i didn't come to my daughter's graduation to hear that speech shaoefplt had nothing against th. she had nothing against the content. she thought it was the wrong venue. martha: isn't it really, you're not special, you have your whole life to make your mark. did he bring it home at end for him? >> i think he did. at the end of kind of picks it up. but really he's solid on the fact that there are for example 37,000 valedictorians this year. he points out that wells lee
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mass, a very affluent community, a lot of the elite kids with wealthy families who spend a lot of money on the education. the notion that just by showing up that you get to run the next google award is not true. the valedictorian number is not accurate. so many schools in the country think that valedictorians are unfair and make the other people feel bad that they now handout multiple valedictorians. the new york times did a story last yore that one high school in texas handed out a hundred valedictorians. how can you be the 100th valedictorian. that's the crux of his speech. if everyone is a valedictorian, then no one is. martha: it's been going on throughout this whole generation if not before this. >> certainly we've been to your plays, your games, your recitals, your science fares. smiles ignite when you walk into a room and others gasp at the
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light of your tweet. you have conquered high school. we gather for you the pride and joy of this fine community, the first toee phaoerpbl to says emerge from that magnificent new building, but don't get the idea that you're anything special, because you're not. martha: this is as much an admonition as the parents in the crowd. look, you've baby he'd these kids u haven' kids, you haven't made them do summer jobs. and this is not an indictment of everyone in wells seat. it' wellswellsley. hopefully most of them are going to college. they are going to get a rude awakening regardless of whether or not they are ready for it i think. >> what is interesting is this speech i think would have been very different say in an inner-city community, one of the boston city schools where you can argue that the kids have
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faced tribulations. they already deal with the concern of not being special but these generation cupcake, sprerb shus snowflakes in wellsley have almost never got even shaken. this is the kind of community where the basketball team beats another basketball team by too many points the coach of the winning team gets in trouble because everyone is supposed to win. that is why this is such a refreshing embracing moment. unfortunately this is the only time these cupcakes kids have ever heard this speech. i was cheering and most of my readers and listeners are. martha: we hope it sticks with them and we'll have to see what kind of impact it had. it got a lot of attention. michael, you are special, you're very special. you'll be back of course, thank you very much. good to see you. >> thank you. bill: that was a little mean. martha: it's a little -- bill: i just -- martha: i think we all agree with that whole notion that kids should not grow newspaper a
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world where everybody gets a trophy because you don't feel special -- bill: not a ribbon for everyone? martha: it's a losing proposition. bill: just give me a little something to go out on when i graduate. martha: i think he tried to bring it home at the end, now is your opportunity to go be special. but it's a downer, no doubt about it. bill: all those kids walked out of graduation and tweeted immediate leave. you're not going to believe what we just heard. jon scott is standing by. "happening now" coming up in eleven short minutes. what are you doing, jon? jon: i am trying to be special and i'm feeling it. there is outrage on capitol hill from both parties from intelligence leaks that could put americans at risk, who is behind them? plus, opening arguments in the jerry sandusky trial. he has intriguing connections to jurors who will here his case. we'll tell you what that is all about. a major spike in type i diabetes has doctors stumped. is that because we are way too
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around. it's not the only one with the idea either. dan springer is live in seattle. where did you go and what is going on there. >> reporter: hot ledge idaho in western idaho, bill. what a place. guns are proven to be recession proof. it turns out it's good for an economy, because the jobs that are created are kept there. that is one reason why the entire state of idaho is welcoming the gun industry. there are 58 companies that make firearms or ammunition in the state and officials are always looking to poach more. potlatch used to be an old mill down. when it shut down a few years ago over half the population has left. then there is the arrival of a high ammunitions maker that supplies the military and is looking for a place where guns are more acceptable now. >> you see a gun in a gun rack or something in it. people come from out of the state, and within the state to hunt back here.
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>> reporter: the mayor says with all those guns crime is low. he attributes that low crime rate to the guns, in fact, bill. bill: are the laws helping to attract gunmakers, dan? >> reporter: they really are, bill. idaho has some of the most gun-friendly laws in the country, not only for the right to own and carry a gun, but also protection if you make or sell the weapon. companies can't be sued over how their products are being used. supporters like to call gunsl part of the wreck tech industry. they envision becoming a hub for gunmakers and a destination for gun enthusiasts. >> maybe a couple companies with ten employees would be a great start and we can just expand from there. >> reporter: by the way we were looking for people in potlatch who don't want the gun and the gunmakers to come. couldn't find any. bill: off to potlash we go.
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medicare. bill: when your average swear jar won't do, massachusetts has decided for you. there is a town, deciding if people should be fined 20 bucks for cursing in public. specifically those who use foul language against others. good idea? >> it is a problem everywhere. see it in the mall. it is intimidating to my customers. to the people out here who are downtown. and i think it is a good thing they're doing something to try and curb it. bill: experts say even if the town aproves the measure it may not hold up in court. a judge could strike it down.
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