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the most powerful name in news go, to greta wire.com and join the conversation, i'm sure have you a lot to saichl we'll see you soon. now. >> bill: the o'reilly factor is on, tonight. >> you violated the public trust in my view by failing and refusing to pemple the duties of your office -- performing the dues of your office. >> there is so much factually wrong with the premise you started your statement with it's almost breathtaking in its inaccuracy. >> pressure building on attorney general eric holder to resign. the fast and furious gun scandal and national security leaks are all bedelving barack obama's close friend. crowley and colmes will analyze. >> i refuse to pay for another millionaire's tax cut by kicking children off of head start programs. >> bill: the president once again appealing to black americans. is the pitch offensive? glenn beck has some thoughts.
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♪ these days are ours. >> bill: judge rules that the cast of happy days may not have received money they are entitled to. even as joan erin more ran gets evicted from her home. >> i tell you i'm innocent. >> is it legal on the case. >> bill: caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. why president obama would lose if the election were held tomorrow. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. once again t points is an oracle in our newspaper article last week i opine if the election were held tomorrow mitt romney would defeat barack obama. can you read that column bill o'reilly.com. today backing up my contention that economic fear could very
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well defeat president obama. according to the fed. median net worth of american families has plunged by 39% in just three years. median means the middle point of any group. their worth is down much more than 39%. median income fell 8% from 2007 to 2010. and the value of american home equity has fallen 32% in three years. grim doesn't even begin to cover t. truth is that the awful economy is not entirely barack obama's fault. the recession began under president bush. however, this is big. mr. obama continues to believe that massive federal spending will turn the economy around. but there are no facts to back that up. things are stagnating and even getting worse in some places. thus, undecided voters must decide whether the president deserves to be reelected based once again on hope. or whether mitt romney wants to allow the private sector it
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drive the economy should be given a chance. to me, undecided voters will break for romney in the face of a very bad economic picture. now, i could be wrong. recently the factor has been very accurate in assessing the state of the union. last big mistake i made was hillary clinton would defeat barack obama in the primaries. the election this year will be all about performance. and right now the obama administration is performing poorly. they will say that's not true. but the fed stats today are devastating. and that's the memo. now for the top story tonight in addition to the economy. the obama administration has a major problem with attorney general eric holder the president's close friend. today mr. holder testified in front of the senate judiciary committee first of all holder said he will finally cooperate in giving congress documents about the fast and furious gun scandal. >> i myself am offering are sit down with the chairman myself with you whoever to try to work our way through this in an attempt to avoid a constitutional crisis. >> that crisis would be the householding the attorney general in contempt.
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but things got even worse for mr. holder today. >> you violated the public trust in my view. and by failing and refusing to perform the duties of your office. so, mr. attorney general, it's more with sorrow than regret than anger that i would say you leave me no alternative but to join those that call upon to you resign your office. >> with all due respect, senator, there is so much that is factually wrong with the premises that you started your statement with. it's almost breathtaking in its inaccuracy. >> joining us now to analyze our barack and hard place duo monica crowley and alan colmes. do you think is he going to have to resign. >> no. he is not going anywhere. he still has the confidence of the president. what would dedo know about barack obama. when somebody has a political liability to them he cuts them
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loose think jeremiah wright in 2008. >> do you think this is a witch-hunt. all they want to do is go after this president and hold hearings rather than actually accomplish anything. >> there is the fast and furious gun scandal led to the death of a border patrol agent. we still don't know who is responsible for that although some people have been fired, you know, how high 20. who okayed it. we don't know any of that after all of these months. doesn't that disturb you? >> it seems like the attempt to pin it on holder is really an attempt to go after barack obama. it was holder who stopped the fast and furious. >> bill: isn't t an attempt to pin it on holder? it's an attempt to get documents out of the justice. >> they have given 7,800,000 -- 7800 pieces of fair. they have given all these. >> bill: wait. they have given 7800 pieces of paper is that what you are saying. >> yeah. >> tell me what happened. >> what happened is they keep asking for more. >> bill: tell me what happened in the fast and furious gun scandal. >> they stopped it. >> bill: who ordered it. >> this is a continuation of wide receive it which started
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in 2007. this already existed. >> bill: see, it doesn't do any good to give documents out unless we know who ordered it. >> we still have unanswered questions. we don't know how high up in the justice department. who authorized this program. look, congressman peter king in the house, chairman of the house homeland security committee today said this scandal is worse than watergate because at least with watergate we didn't have any dead bodies. we have an american hero. u.s. border agent lying dead. at the hands of the fast and furious gun. chairman issa has been asking for these documents since october. 150,000 outstanding documents that have not been turned over. >> bill: okay. now, you may remember, colmes, that then senator obama and then senator biden called for a special prosecutor to be appointed in the cia deal with valerie plame, do you remember that? >> yes. >> was that a witch-hunt it? >> might have been to some extent. >> because now they want a special prosecutor, the republicans, to investigate the so-called leaks about national security.
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and, it doesn't seem like president obama or attorney general holder want that special prosecutor. roll this tape today. >> we're talking about -- >> -- downside of a special council. somebody knew other than these two people that all of us could buy into. >> senator, i think you are missing something here. >> i think you are missing something here. i think you are missing the fact that this is a very big deal. i'm asking no more of you than senator obama and senator biden asked in investigations i think are no worse than this. >> bill: he is referring to valerie plame and scooter libby and all of that. >> get revenge for valerie plame. did you this to us. we're going to do this to you. this administration has prosecuted more people under the espionage act for example under which you actually go after whistle -- >> bill: don't you want to know who is leaking stuff about the iranians? >> yeah. they are acting as if this administration is not doing anything about this, doesn't care about it. >> bill: two justice department guys. >> yeah. >> and you have confidence in
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that? >> yes because this administration has gone after the big guys like bradley manning and other people under the espionage act that actually have taken action to do something about it. >> look. in the valerie plame thing the left pounded cheney and pounded scooter libby and ended up prosecuting libby over nothing. covert operative. >> what do you mean over nothing. >> over nothing. nobody did anything. >> bill: they made a movie about it. >> that was a complete evident -- >> they gave up an agent. >> in this case this is so much more serious because we are talking about leaks that involve ongoing intelligence operation with our number one threat which is iran. >> bill: it is a serious situation. you have got to say there is a little hypocrisy in this. >> get themselves when they're the ones leaks, come on. >> bill: they gave her up. >> see colmes, a little hypocrisy here with senators biden and senators obama. >> oh no. we need a special prosecutor. >> congress that wants to do nothing but go after this president. >> bill: there was a reason for that. they gave up a woman who was
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working. >> but somebody gave up an iranian operation to cripple their nuclear facility. somebody gave that up. >> this administration has actually done a very good job going after people. >> you have confidence. >> yeah. >> so have you confidence. >> yes, i do. >> eric holder will get to the bottom of it? >> yes, i do. >> bill: tell my why marc rich was pardoned? holder did that. >> is there always equivalency in every case between everything a left winger does. >> bill: you have confidence obama is going to get to the bottom of the security leaks. i'm questioning why he was pardoned. >> i'm not speaking for holder. >> bill: you don't know. nobody knows. >> is the the guy honed fast and furious. >> he he got caught. >> he didn't start it operation of wide receiver which existed prior to him. same exact thing nobody talks about. same kind of operation. left wing, never went after. >> last word. this idea that the sleation
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would investigate themselves on these national security leaks which they are the ones that leaked it need a special prosecutor. >> i will put colmes in charge. would you? >> oh god forbid. we will get to the bottom of it then, bill. >> are you mogging him? you are mocking him. >> wait a minute. you are my sister-in-law. this is the way you talk to family members? we will continue the problem at home. >> bill: continue arguing into the break. next on the run down, glenn beck on whether a new political ad targeting african-americans crosses the line. later looks like life in prison could be next for former penn state football coach jerry sandusky charged with child molestation. testimony devastating today. is it legal up ahead. our cloud is not soft and fluffy. our cloud is made of bedrock. concrete. and steel. our cloud is the smartest brains combating the latest security threats.
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millionaire's tax cut by kicking children off the head start programs or asking students to pay more for college or eliminating health insurance for millions of poor and elderly and disabled americans on medicaid. ♪ >> bill: we are not sure who is paying up the back-up singers but they do sound very good. glenn beck joins from us dallas. >> i have never heard anything like that. >> bill: this a campaign ad i haven't either. i would love to hear mitt romney's backup singers. probably sound like the osmonds. >> here is the problem with that ad. it's two fold. they talk about we have got your back, mr. president. isn't the president supposed to have our back? isn't he the guy who is supposed to be the guy who ensures that he is watching our liberty and our life so nobody comes and kills our family or kills us and nobody can scoop us up off the streets in the middle of the night. which is he not really doing either of those things. and then in this ad, the
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message back to the president is president obama, we got your back. why? why do we have his back? why do we have any politician's back? >> bill: they like him. they want to see him reelected. that's what they are saying. the back-up singers are enthusiastic about the new album and perhaps the re-election and whatever theying doing. >> the other problem with, this bill is that listen to the things he is promising. he is not -- you know, a real leader doesn't snare you in and suck you in and say depend on me, depend on me. a real leader says you are better than. this you can strive. i'm here busy freeing things up so you can pursue. >> bill: that's the difference between you and me and barack obama. barack obama is a big government guy and is he telling the african-american community. >> say the m word. >> i'm going to continue to give you more stuff if i -- >> -- say it.
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is he a marxist. >> bill: all right, beck. >> after he loses to mitt romney will you say i think he might have been a marxist. >> bill: i don't think is he a marxist, beck. is he a dedicated liberal man who wants the government to call the shots. i don't think he wants to seize your mansion nor the dallas. >> you don't think he wants to take my money or your money. >> bill: he he wants to take your money, some of it. he doesn't want to take all of your stuff. >> how much do you want to make a bet he would be thrilled to put a salary cap on you and me and anybody else that make. >> bill: i don't deny that with marxism you are talking a whole seizure of property thing. people should understand that. >> is he a statest. >> maybe he is a statest but at this point is he a very liberal, the most -- how does it make you feel better? he is the most liberal president ever. >> you answered prayers. i asked for a little bit of sanity from bill o'reilly and
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you answered it. thank you. bill billing if i were really sane i wouldn't put you on the air. [ laughter ] >> well, you do have a good point on that. >> i want to reiterate the point that i made. in my opinion, barack obama is the most liberal president ever to hold the office. >> i think. >> that's as far as i'm going to go you know how i feel about woodrow wilson, i think he is the worst, the fundamental changing to the core president we have ever had. >> bill: okay. now, i have got your book today. it's a giant book. it's huge. >> well,. >> in fact, they are going to have to build just book stores to hold your book it's so big. >> we are going to make book stores out of my book. >> what is the headline of cowards? what is the biggest thing you want to get across? >> that we have to be -- we have to be braver than we are. there is a lot of people in the country that say -- because i hear t all the time. bill, i hear t about your show and your show is happy news compared to anything i do. people say, you know what?
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i just turn off the tv. i can't watch it anymore. you can't do that you have to look at the truth. but you have to get right down to the truth and not be a weasel and say well, it's my truth or my party's truth. the other side is, there is all kinds of different cowards. and one of them is like barack obama. he'll speak the language to just about everybody and he will say the right key words to each particular group. so he can get elected because he knows he can't do what "newsweek" did a few years ago and say we're all socialists now. we are all for big government. we're all going down that road. whenever he does that, he immediately retracts. that's a sign of a coward. >> bill: all right. >> he did it just last week when he said you know what, look, you know, the private sector is doing fine. no, it's not. but he believes that but he won't say that. >> bill: paging through your book. >> the book is all about the facts. the people in the news media, the politicians and the revolutionaries just won't say
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that we need to hear. >> okay. so they're not telling it the folks what they really want to do, i think that's the take away that you say and it's across the board, it's not just liberals it's all of us. they are not saying, leveling, they are not the no spin zone. they are not telling people what they really want to do. >> people ask me, for instance, people ask me all the time, bill, come on, bill o'reilly, i mean, he is with you, right? i'm like, no, he is really not. you know one thing about watching bill o'reilly. he means what he says and says what he means. it's the same thing with me. we might get in trouble from time to time but that's the kind of nation that we need. those are the kind of leaders that we need. and those are the people that we need to encourage our neighbors to be. people who say what they mean and mean what they say. and our lock down in the facts. this book that we do this particular kind of book it's a textbook don't ever quote me in a paper if you are in
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college. but there is 50 pages of footnotes in the very back. i don't want you to believe me on the facts. i don't want to you believe me about the border or the unions or anything else. i want you to look it up yourself. >> bill: all right. glenn beck, everybody, the book is cowards, just out today. all right, beck, don't get in trouble down there. directly ahead. should the law protect children from bad language and bad adult behavior in public? john stossel has some thoughts. jeb bush saying the republic jeb bush saying the republic party may be too [ male announcer ] introducing a powerful weapon
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>> bill: stossel matters segment tonight, middle borough, massachusetts voted to make cursing and swearing in public an offense subject to fine. they want to protect children from profane language. dealing with public nudity,
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public intoxication and adult bad behavior in general. here now john stossel author of the big new best seller "no they can't, why government fails but individuals succeed." you know what the problem is sport games, start chanting obscenities. san francisco you can be naked now. you can be naked walking down the street. you know. there is children around and they are seeing all of this stuff and they are affected by it. they are affected by it. what would you do? >> well, in most cases nothing. people walking around in the street naked, the kids see this on the internet now. it's not harmful. >> bill: my kids don't see it on the internet. >> sure they do. you don't know believe believe believe me. >> you check. >> >> bill: all the time. i'm all over that. >> friend's house. >> bill: if we're living in san francisco and we walk out and there is lenny across the street and naked and walking around. you don't have any problem with that? >> yeah, i'm grossed out depending on what lenny looks like. this is a you handle this with
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local laws. >> bill: that's what i'm talking about. marlboro, massachusetts says we don't want cursing. if you curse outloud, it's 25 bucks write you a ticket. i like that. >> 25 bucks actually. that's fine. if you want to have a town square. >> bill: you are okay with that? >> yes. >> bill: excellent. we are making progress. listen, i don't want to a national anti-cursing law. i think people should do in more borough, massachusetts what they think is best for the kids. in san francisco you are dealing with something totally opposite now. dealing with an out-of-control place there where they want. >> some people are happy with that. >> bill: do you know what the slogan is in san francisco? we're the new gomorrah. >> you have to cover up if you go into a restaurant. >> bill: there are a lot of good people there. >> put a towel down. >> bill: whole city hijacked by crazy people who run the city council. >> if you want to have a crazy city you can. if you want to have a proper city you don't have to live there they should air on the side of government doing less. >> bill: run it down, public
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nudity, no? that's not good for anybody. >> some places is t. should be allowed. >> bill: what place? where? >> nude beaches. some town wants to have that fine. >> bill: on the beach there is a big sign so you can go and you don't go, right? not in the local mcdonald's? you are not eating your big mac sitting next to tricksy. >> mcdonald's is private. ought to be mcdonald's right if they want to let nude people come in. >> bill: don't give them any ideas. are you kidding me? >> i don't think it would be a good business model. that's the duty of private property and why we should have less government property where everybody has to obey the same rules. in the stadium you can have rules against cigar smokers, lewd behavior, drinking. it's a private stadium. i litner a stadium. they don't even call it litter when i throw the popcorn. it's private. part of my ticket price picks it up. >> bill: you can have nuts that buy private property and say i bought this lot in the middle of this town and we're going to allow anything on that lot.
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anything goes on that lot. you have got to have some kind of regulation to deal with the nuts. i will give you the last word. >> i hate to agree with you and we libertarians have clear answers for so much. in this case public nuisances are a problem. >> all right. >> the government can pass laws against that. >> bill: mcdonald we don't want a naked mcdonald's. >> it's their right. >> what if you are in from out of town and drive in with six kids. >> too bad. you will leave. >> bill: you will leave in a hurry. >> yeah. >> bill: cast of happy days suing to get money they say was unfairly kept from them. even as one of the stars of the show he is evicted from her home. and jeb bush saying the republic party needs to get less ideological if it wants to prosper. we hope you stay tuned to those reports. [ male announcer ] this is the land of giants.
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>> bill: personal story segment tonight. the u.s.a. spends more than $15 billion a year on direct welfare payments to more than
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4 million individuals. welfare, of course, very emotional topic in the country. with us is adam corolla, the author of the brand new book not taco bell material. that's a reference for apply for taco bell job and was turned down. to be fair, i was only 41 at the time. >> bill: were you wrote that. >> i have got to be honest, you walk in and want the job i'm not hiring you. you look like a wise guy. you look like somebody who is going to mock the taco bell customer. >> you look like a guy who can make a burrito, bill? >> i wouldn't apply for the job because i know. >> have you ever seen a burrito. >> my border stance eliminates me from anything in that area. [ laughter ] your mother raising you as a child was actually on welfare. >> yes, she was. >> bill: you came away from that experience with a very strong point of view? >> yeah, we were on welfare and food stamps and i did the lunch ticket program at school as well. that did not include taco bell, sadly. and i felt like she was cut off at the knees. i felt like it hobbled her.
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i felt like she got her stippen from the government and just enough to get by on and that's all we did. one time when i was about 9, i said to her why don't you just get a job then we can have a nice car and some furniture and colored tv we could watch rhoda and mad -- maud on color tv. she said if i get a join will lose my welfare. i thought that is a horrible message to send. it inspired me. int. inspired me to buy a book. don't buy glenn beck's book by the way, that bastard is rich enough. he will land on his feet i need the money. >> bill: you can buy both books, all right? now what you took away though is your mother was a not motivated to improve herself because the government was us sustaining her. >> i think we all have that in us. i think if somebody -- i include myself. >> bill: was your mother a bright woman? could she have made a good living? could she have done something? >> the point is we will never
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know. that's my point. i don't know what i could have done if somebody gave me 859 bucks a month when i got out of high school and said you will never have to work again. i would probably still be on the same futon that i slept on in my dad's garage. that's my point. i think we are all capable of doing a ton and capable of doing almost nothing, depending on what's demanded of us. >> if your mother had not had welfare though, you would have starved though, right? you would have been even worse off. and had a pretty bad upbringing. if you read the book you will see it wasn't easy for him. you would have been even worse off though, right? >> i think she would have risen to the occasion. >> out of maternal instinct for you and your sister to provide for you so you weren't living under a bridge? >> i think we all have more of that in us than we know. i don't think we will ever find out as long as we are getting the stippen from the government. >> okay. now, what motivated you? you know bad families a lot of times it's it cyclical you
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have a bad mom and dad or the family breaks up and the unmotivated. what motivated you to break out of that. >> i liked cars. expensive cars. >> bill: you and jay leno. i hated the life. i was miserable. i worked jobs as construction work and dug ditches and swung hammers and it was hot and dusty and there was no airconditioning and no chicks and i drove a crappy pickup truck. i looked around and i said this sucks. i want more than this and it motivated me to work. >> bill: how about your sister? did she feel the same way? >> well, yeah. but she married -- i sort of realized look out, there is a difference between a man and a woman. i know as a woman you can always get married, start a family, she has a husband who is an architect. they do well now. i knew that wasn't going to happen to me. >> bill: no guy was going to marry you unless you know you could have looked ahead to the future. >> that's right. >> bill: now you could live if
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you moved to certain areas of the country. >> i could have married john stossel. >> bill: attractive man it could have happened for you. >> just drunk and read his book at his house right now eating chocolate. wow, what a life. >> bill: the book is not taco bell material. very very interesting book. both funny and serious. we appreciate you coming in. nice to see you. >> thank you. >> bill: we come right back, is it legal on the awful penn state molestation trial underway right now. also the cast of happy days happy that their lawsuits is going forward. legal is next. ♪
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suing for money they say they are owed from that classic sitcom. first, devastating testimony today in the trial of former penn state football coach jerry sandusky accused of
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molesting boys. here now kimberly guilfoyle and lis wiehl. i'm not convicting this guy on tv but just the testimony rolling. in no way sandusky is going to see the light of day he is done. >> we would agree with you. two accusers taking the stabbed they tell in great detail which we are not going to go into here that he was grooming them. piece by piece by piece. remember, these accusers did not know each other before this trial. >> bill: yeah. it would be impossible to impeach 10 people. >> exactly. >> bill: there might be some that jump on the bandwagon and that's what michael jackson's lawyer did in california. this is a totally different situation. but what sandusky's attorney is going to try to do is impeach the credibility of the witnesses you are doing this because you want to sue civilly, sue the university get a paycheck, right? >> absolutely. if they were able to secure this criminal judgment and then a civil lawsuit being successful is a slam dunk, basically. think about the credibility of the witnesses like you said. they are not going to be able
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to be privy to the testimony of the others. whether you have that kind of reputation coming forward with the same kind of mo. >> bill: stop you for a minute. what guilfoyle is saying the witnesses don't hear what is being said in front of them. they are going to come in. and the jury is going to hear all of these separate details if there is a pattern of behavior will emerge there was a pattern of behavior in the michael jackson situation. there was. so public. and everybody knew what the accusations were. >> different jury at that point. and time as well got a whole different jury here. i think it's interesting. yeah. this jury some people said got connections to penn state. might be more. >> no they are not. >> so angry. >> the university paterno. >> not pop star. >> this trial is going fast. >> yes. >> two weeks and this is going to be done. occupy wall street. we told you these people are through but they are still making trouble because they are organized out of washington, d.c. and not a lot of folks in there now they are
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pros. they are suing the city of new york for what? >> yes. for violating their first, fourth and 14th amendment rights. saying they had a right to go and peacefully assemble that they were duped by the new york police officers into thinking that this was a coordinated. you know, able to go and exercise their rights by protesting, walking from wall street to the brooklyn bridge. now the judge who ruled in this case has said case can proceed forward against 700 police officers and dismissed it against ray kelly and mayor bloomberg. >> bill: 700 police officers who pays damages? take up a collection? what happens? >> it would be the civil lawsuit, yeah. what they say is the city would have to pay. but i don't think it's going to get that far. i think the judge was right. dismiss in the first part. the large conspiracy against the city. dismiss that. but let it go at least forward to a jury, perhaps, to see whether -- entrapment. that's the legal. >> bill: they were down there
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for months protesting. they are saying that the police did what. >> entrapped them. >> bill: by doing what? >> making march. >> follow this to this blind. this is where we want you to go. follow us there. and then arrest them. >> bill: lured them to the brooklyn bridge and then when they got out there t was like moses and the egyptians luring the egyptians into the red sea and then, boom! >> exactly. >> bill: the egyptians could have sued but they are all dead. >> yeah. where was the aclu then, right? >> bill: that's right. do you know where they were? no, i'm not even going to go there. >> don't go there. happy days one of my favorite shows you like happy days, right? you were 5 and 6 years old at the time? happy days? all right, now erin moran played joany and had her own show spin off. >> joan loves khachi. >> joan got evicted from her california apartment because she is broke and in bad straits i understand.
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she is part of a lawsuit, wiehl, of not the major players like henry winkler and ron howard. they are not in this, okay? but the minor players are saying we didn't, get what? >> the mother, the father, you know, and joni and pots is i saying have you been doing dvd's. selling lunch boxes and t-shirts you being cbs and we haven't got our 5%. our net proceeds. >> bill: why are they swittled to royalties? >> they say we have a contract that says have that you never gave us an accounting. >> bill: do they have contract. >> they do. cbs is countering and saying listen you are represented by sag. screen actor's guild. >> i'm in. >> i am too. >> you say they have a legitimate claim here, do they. >> they have a legitimate claim to proceed forward it is unlikely to succeed in my opinion. their best chance is to try to get sympathy from a jury to be honest with you. they should have had a better.
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>> bill: they have a contract and they are selling lunch boxes and they didn't get any money. >> i will tell you why, so far the lawyers from cbs credible argument that any were adequately represented and compensated through their sag agreement. >> they say they don't have an accounting of anything. get that in front of a jury. you are going to put joan little richy's sister on that. >> bill: do you think cbs is going to go to that thing? settle it so poor joan more ran can erin moran can have an apartment. >> i feel badly for her. >> they should settle it. it's not a good deal. that's what happens. henry winkler had a better lawyer. >> bill: not so happy days now. charles krauthammer on deck. he will analyze jeb bush saying the republic party may be too our cloud is not soft and fluffy. our cloud is made of bedrock. concrete. and steel. our cloud is the smartest brains
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>> bill: back of the book segment tonight, speaking at a forum bloomberg his father ronald reagan might not feel comfortable among some right wing elements of the republic party. joining us from washington to analyze that statement charles krauthammer. does jeb bush have a point that some republicans simply will not compromise? their doctrineaire my way or the highway. we saw that tea party debt downgrade. we saw that a little bit there does he have a point? >> i don't think so. and i think that's why he tried to walk it back today but he walked it back for the wrong reason. his problem is that he was equating his father with ronald reagan. and they -- his father was a very good president. history will smile upon him but he was no reagan. his father was a moderate republic. a moderate conservative. reagan was a movement conservative. a leader of the movement.
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you would call him rigid. he was called worse than that in those eight years. rigidity is a virtue. today we use the word ideology as a pejorative. i think it needs to be resurrected. ideology means a coherent set of ideas and policies. and reagan had them. and he pursued them. and i think he would be very comfortable today with the tea party and republic party. in fact, i think he would say as paul ryan said after the 2010 election where you have got a radical change in direction of the republic party, paul ryan said we had lost our way. we had entertained this kind of moderate conservatism as his father, the bush father said kindler and gentler as george w. said compassionate conservatism. that was a variation they did. but i think the republics have spoken that was not the way to go. this is a return to
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arrestingism. >> isn't it true though that ronald reagan and tipp o'neal had a very strong relationship that was back and forth and there was legislation that was embraced by both parties back then and reagan was a master at basically selling his point of view, which was conservative to a liberal guy like o'neil where that kind of has vanished now on both ends. i mean, barack obama is not calling in the conservative people for consultations. so it has vanished on both sides. isn't that what jeb bush is trying to get back to? >> well, i think if that's what he is saying he's wrong. the reason ronald reagan was able to get his program through even with tipp o'neal is because he won on a very strong ideological platform. he won a mandate. a landslide in 1980, he said i'm going to cut taxes by a third. there is no resisting a president who wins by explicitly saying i'm going to it do x no matter how radical it is then he wins and gets the mandate and did he it tipp
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o'neal really could not stand in the way of that reagan was able to mobilize public opinion. the fact that he got along well with tipp o'neal simply speaks to political skills which every idealogue, every politician, every president ought to have. and he worked very well with the democrats. but the democrats were in a losing position because reagan had the ideas and he had the people behind him. that is very different. it was different in the bush years and that's why there was more compromise. reagan often would give away some of the details and some of the policies but on principles, shrinking government, stronger national defense, cutting taxes. he was utterly uncompromising and he got his way. that's exactly what republicans ought to be doing. and if they win the presidency in 2012, that's what they should do. >> bill: now, did the republic party reject the real strong conservative doctrineaire point of view by choosing mitt romney over, say, rick
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santorum? >> well, i'm not sure that rick santorum with his huge emphasis on social issues was a reaganite. he strong in principle and rhetoric on those but he talked about economics. he talked about smaller government, smaller defense. that's what he talked about and that's what he did. he is not a guy who did anything on abortion. i can assure you on that. even though he was sympathetic with the antiabortion movement. no, i think romney was the best. look, there was nobody else in those debates who was a plausible president who would have had a chance at winning. this is an accident of the field. it was a weak field. romney was the only man on the stage, man or woman who was a plausible president who could win. that is not to say that the party didn't have other potential candidates who had been far more reaganite. like paul ryan and daniels who for their own personal reasons decided not to run.
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>> bill: i have got to run. next week i want to talk to you about the changing country. if ronald reagan and by the shear magnetism of the personality and leadership skills i think you would have a huge advantage but the country is different now than when he first took office 32 years ago. so we'll talk about that with charles krauthammer next week. pinheads and patriots starring the british prime minister leaving his 8-year-old daughter in a pub. p and p just over two minutes away. [ male announcer ] introducing a powerful weapon
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>> pip pin. but first, we have to come to grips with it, father's day is sunday. for you in in the midwest, the bolder fresher show, starring miller and me is the ultimate father's day gift. if you become a bill o'reilly.com premium member, we will send you a free copy of my best-selling book "killing lincoln." dad will be happy to get either or both of those gifts. now to the mail... >> only if you are a pinhead, lance. drugs are dangerous and cause dilution. succeeding the natural way? is always the opt optmum.
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>> that was given to me by a courageous air force unit operating in afghanistan. everyone can check out the pictures of my iceland trip online. >> fair criticism. i should have focused on that more, iceland is a semi-socialist society and relies on green energy. i wanted to see how that's working out for them. my newspaper column on thursday evening will explain it all. >> fnc's hard news reporting is objective and fact based. this is analysis here. i know a lot of people can't tell the difference.
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>> well, that will cut down on your calls, ruthy. good strategy. >> in this country, the working folks drive the private sector. different from europe. blal >> well, that promotion is still in motion, elaine. glad you liked both books. >> finally, pinheads & patriots, this one very hard to believe.
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recently, british prime minister david cameron visited a pub with his family. when they left the pub, they did not take 8-year-old nancy cameron with them. she was left alone in the pub for 15 minutes, until mr. cameron came back to collect her. >> i thought she had quite a lot of sympathy for him. parents are busy people, particularly when your children outnumber the number of parents that are out and about, it can happen to the best of us. >> with all respect, it wouldn't happen to me. i count the urchins before i leave. mr. cameron's a pinhead in that regard. that's it for us. check out the fox news factor web site. we would like you to spout off about the factor from anywhere in the world. name and town if you wish to opine. word of the day, an oldy but a goody, love this one, do not be a poppin jay when writing to the factor. please, always

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