accusations flying in the "fast and furious" case. a leading democrat saying it is is part of a republican scheme to suppress election votes. while a leading republican says the white house is stonewalling. a big political battle in full swing for you. jenna: big trouble with some of the world's biggest banks downgraded. what it exactly means for your bank and your money. we'll break it down for you. rick: are you getting random junk text messages on your phone? it is like spam, clogging your phone and costing you money. why it is happening so much lately and what you can do about it. all the breaking news "happening now." rick: thank you so much for being with us today. some harsh accusations in the "fast and furious" scandal. i'm broke folbaum in for jon scott. jenna: nice to have you back with us, rick. nice to have you as well, everybody. i'm jenna lee. the investigation turning into quite a political battlefield these days. it comes after a house

committee voted along party lines to hold attorney general eric holder in contempt of congress. a full vote could happen next week and the controversy is growing now. the top democrat in the house says she has her own theory on why holder is being targeted by republicans. house minority leader nancy pelosi says its really about voter suppression. >> the very same people who are holding the contempt are part of a nationwide scheme to suppress the vote. they are closely allied with those who are suffocating the system. unlimited special interests, secret money. jenna: more on that claim in a few minutes. in the meantime house speaker john boehner is nod holding back either. he is connecting the white house to the scandal, pointing to how president obama invoked executive privilege to keep justice department documents away from investigators. >> the decision to invoke

executive privilege is an admission that white house officials were involved in decisions that misled the congress and have covered up the truth. jenna: well this whole investigation began following the death of border patrol agent brian terry. two guns found at the scene of his murder in 2010 were linked to the "fast and furious" program. here is white house press secretary jay carney. >> we absolutely agree with the need to find out the truth about why fast and furious happened, why the tactic that, again, was employed in the previous administration in a different operations and was stopped by this attorney general, why it came about. and that's why the attorney general refer it to inspector general. that is why we have provided congress every document that pertains to the operation itself that, is at issue here when you talk about the family that you referred to.

>> the terry family. >> terry family. jenna: chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington with more on this. the. >> reporter: good morning. the parents of brian terry told sean hannity in their first interview after the contempt vote they believe the administration is not living up to its stated goal of government transparency because it would expose the white house and others. >> i think that if he did this, then i think that there's something, there is something that they don't want us to know and there is something to hide. >> i think they're hiding something. i think they're lying and they're hiding it. i said they're lying, oh, yeah, big-time. big-time. they're passing the buck. >> reporter: as for the house minority leader's claims republican demands for answers on the death of border agent brian terry are part of a broader scheme to discredit the attorney general some democrats are not going far. senior house democrat on the intelligence committees spoke to greta van susteren

last night. >> whether it is part of a broader scheme, i wouldn't go there. frankly i think the most important point this is a just another partisan political tool that is distracting us from the important work of not only finishing the actual investigation into the agent's death but also dealing with this horrific level of gun violence and mutually destructive trade we have with mexico. >> reporter: traveling thursday the attorney general thinks possibility of still exists for a deal. republicans are threatening full house vote on the floor next week unless the administration provides those documents. jenna: much more throughout the day, thank you, catherine. >> reporter: thank you. rick: the decision on the health care law will come next week and already both members of both political parties are busy jockeying position ahead of that announcement. house speaker john boehner telling fellow republicans to quote, not spike the football, instead focus on jobs and the economy. democrats are also making their own plans ahead of the

ruling. doug mckelway is any of live in washington with more. hi, doug. >> reporter: hi, rick. no matter what the supreme court does there remains a great deal of incertainty about the affordable care act. the makeup of congress is different when it was passed and its makeup will be different again after the november elections. we may have a new president who vowed to repeal the health care law. both parties have made diametrically opposed rom misses should the supreme court throw out the individual mandate or throw out the whole law. >> unless the court throws out the entire law, house will vote to repeal whatever is left of obamacare. and then we need to enact common sense, step by step reforms that protect jobs and protect americans access to the care they need from the doctor they choose at a lower cost. >> we can not say to the american people we're going to throw you at the mercy of the insurance companies who

refused coverage to you, rescinded policies when you were on the gurney going into the operating room. raised your rates to a point at having it be prohibitive. >> reporter: but the uncertainty we're seeing in congress pails to the uncertainty in private sector. businesses are putting plans on hold pending this huge decision. health care expenses are the second greatest cost for many companies next to payroll. even if the supreme court leaves the affordable care act intact uncertainty remains. laws require states to set up insurance exchange so people will have greater choice and bargaining power. many states, especially republican leaning states have not done that the department of health and human service to do that, no easy task where each state has different needs and different requirements. uncertainty can be overstated at this point, rick. rick: doug mckelway live for us in d.c.

doug, thanks. >> we'll check on the markets today, looking better than they did yesterday when we had one of the worst trading sessions of the year. this is after newsom of our most biggest and prestigious banks are starting the day with lower crediting. they are familiar names you know like bank of america, citigroup, jpmorgan chase, goldman sachs and morgan stanley. what does this mean for us and our money and our banks? charlie gasparino, senior correspondent for fox business network is with us. mike santoli associate editor for "barron's" magazine. welcome to you both. mike, what does it mean for our money. >> bottom line, it doesn't change very much in the average person's deposits loans, things like that. it means a recognition, by the way this was months in coming, we were sort of expecting this. a recognition that that economic conditions and regulatory conditions have worked against banks. they're going to be less profitable. they may have higher borrowing costs. it might be one more thing a bit of a headwind to the economy. i don't think though a real big surprise or a big change

in behavior just in the short term for the banks. jenna: charlies is our financial system safe? >> that's one of those very loaded questions. i can't tell you what is going to happen in europe. part of this is a reaction what is going in europe. we know all the banks have deals with european banks. they underwrite insurance policies on bank debt over there. so this could be foretelling something bad if europe, if the financial crisis in europe doesn't stop i will disagree, this is bad for the bottom line in america. i'll tell you why. the reason when you lower debt ratings there are all sorts of things that kick in terms of capital standards and all the new rules put in place. this is the last thing the u.s. economy needs right now because the banks are going to be less hesitant -- more hesitant to lend to small businesses. this is pretty bad given the context that we are going likely into recession. when you talk to most economists they say likelihood of a recession, or at least, very, very, very slow growth, more, slower than it is now is

very likely and this could be what pushes us over the edge. jenna: mike, are you hearing that as well? this could be a precursor it is another sign we're headed toward a recession? >> it doesn't help. the tangible results of a lower credit rating, higher borrowing costs for banks the need to have more capital have mostly been put in place. right now the stocks and bonds of banks are going up because we sort of already built this in expectations. i agree the appetite for aggressive lending is only going to be diminished by this action but i don't think this is really the big swing factor as whether the economy -- >> i think you have to delineate between the market reaction and the real economy reaction. yes, the market reacts before the thing gets put into place but the fact of the matter is all these banks have now been downgraded. right now they have to ramp up their sort of credit standards. they can't just lend to anybody. they weren't lending to anybody in the past. this is pretty bad if you,

if you're looking for increased business lending. this is not a good sign. it is a huge headwind. jenna: charlie, let me ask you this, both you and mike brought up new regulations. didn't we put in new regulations to make the banking system safer? didn't we have the stress testing of banks so they would be safe? is this showing us that the banks are safer or less safe? what is the effect of all this? >> hear is the thing. we should put in other context. there is political thing here. moody's was very late on the financial crisis. they don't want to be late whatever is coming next. there is a lot of stuff coming out of europe. there are people out there making the case that the banks, that moody's is overreacting what is going into europe. i will say this though, practical matter, banks being downgraded like this is not good for the u.s. economy. they will be more hesitant to lend to small businesses even though they were not doing that much of it in the first place. we're slowing down our economy. this is something that could push us into recession no doubt. jenna: charlie, mike, thank you for the time today. big story.

we'll continue to watch it. rick: a fox news alert now. we want to let you know about some reports just coming into our newsroom involving a turkish jet apparently has been shot down over syria. there are some local reports there that the government of syria and the air defenses for the government shot this plane down. the ap is doing some reportinging a well saying that the turkish authorities are helping to search for this jet which was shot down near the turkey-syrian border. turkey has weighed in on the ongoing violence and controversy over the assad regime in syria right now. turkey siding with the u.s. and other nations say it us time for president assad to step down because of the uprising that has killed so many thousands of people in this country. now reports of a turkish jet going down. we'll follow this story and bring you more as we get it. jenna: interesting timing on that because one of our big stories yesterday, we'll again work to confirm those reports, was the sic was

working with turkey to gather intelligence about where to put weapons into syria. where can we put weapons into syria so those opposition forces can overthrow or potentially battle the assad regime there that was our big story yesterday. we're not saying they're connected but some context as we try to figure out what is going on over there. rick: a shared border between these two countries. so an important story we'll keep following for you. also coming up the catholic church locked into a bitter battle with the obama administration over contraception. we'll talk about their brand new strategy coming up next. jenna: jury deliberations resuming today in the trial of jerry sandusky. this as we learn from shocking new claims from his own adopted son. why wasn't matt sandusky called to testify? we'll talk a little bit about that with our legal panel coming up. rick: forget the unwanted telemarketing calls that come during dinner, right? jenna: always. rick: the new nuisance on your phone, on your cell

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rick: welcome back. i guess you could call this round two in the catholic church's battle against the obama administration contraception mandate. from protests to pulpit the church is spreading a message far and wide what they call a for the night for freedom. this initiative kicked off last night and this morning with a special mass in new york city. it will include mail and television ads. james angle following the story live from washington. jim. >> reporter: catholics are beginning the fortnite for

freedom. the obama administration ruled that schools and charities have to provide contraception including abortion-inducing drugs as part of their coverage. catholics argue that is against the first amendment right of freedom of religion. cardinal dolan this morning thanked god for religious liberties garpd teed by the constitution. >> we never take that liberty for grant and and we have courage to stand up and defend it. there is a twofold priority here. gratitude to god for religious freedom and making sure we're strong in keeping it strong. >> reporter: now the obama administration decided only institutions such as churches that higher and serve those of the same faith would be exempted from providing contraceptive coverage. the catholic church though is the nation's number one nongovernmental provider of health care and catholic schools an charities argued that ruling forces them to choose between serving non-catholics as they do now

or violating their religious beliefs. they filed a dozen lawsuits challenging the law and are trying to keep up the pressure with this two weeks of protest and letter-writing. >> the church is asking not for people to take to the streets and get arrested but the church is calling for catholics to say, this is an unjust law and we can't follow it. >> reporter: the administration sought to turn this into a fight over contraception which catholics firmly deny. they note contraceptives are widely available at little or no cost. they're not trying to change that. they don't want to be forced to provide contraceptives themselves at the direction of the government. rick? rick: thank you, jim angle in washington. jenna: some shocking claims from jerry sandusky's adopted son now saying he was abused as well by his father and that he was ready to testify but he was never asked to. why? our legal panel is on this next. rick: talk about surrealistic, a man calmly removes a

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rick: right now jury deliberations underway for the second day in the child sex abuse trial of former penn state football coach jerry sandusky. we're told that the jurors are once again listening to a few hours of testimony from some of the prosecution's star witnesses, including former penn state assistant mike mccreary who claims to have witnessed one of these acts take place. sandusky faces 48 counts and the possibility of life in prison. a total of 10 alleged victims have come forward, many of them testifying

during this trial and now comes the shocking news from sandusky's adopted son, matthew sandusky, whose lawyers are saying he was prepared to testify, claiming that he was also abused by his father. frred tecce is a former federal prosecutor. jennifer bonjean is a criminal defense attorney. jennifer, what do you make of this news about matthew coming forward offering his testimony? why wouldn't he have been called? >> i am not surprised he too was abused or allegedly abused by sandusky. in fact i'm surprised it took so long for this to be revealed to the public. i think though at the belated hour, the 11th hour allegation that the prosecution was wise not to actually have him called as a witness because, remember, none of the indictment, none of the charges alleged in the indictment involve claims against this particular victim. these would be presented as uncharged other crimes evidence. and the defense is going to stand up and say, wait a second, we had no notice of this. we didn't know you were

going to make these allegations. so to inject this possible air, this possible prejudice to the defense at the 11th hour would create some error that the prosecution doesn't want because they don't want any possibility that they have to retry this case and put those victims back on. rick: and, fred, there were comments from matthew sandusky early on supporting his father, fred. saying that his father didn't abuse him and showing up at different events supporting his dad. so that would have been problematic for the prosecution right? >> rick, this is about as good as they get, i disagree with jennifer on one point, she is absolutely right the prosecution was right not to call the guy but for different reasons. he was on the defense witness list as a witness so they can't argue surprise. he did come out and support his father. he publicly denied he was victim of any type of abuse by jerry sandusky. you know what? i would not have put the guy on. i think it would have been

too dangerous. frankly if i believe the stories the prosecution used threat of this kid in rebuttal to keep sandusky off the stand. i would have let the guy testify and would have been the worst witness in the world and would have taken himself down like a sack of sledgehammers. rick: jenna, what about the jury was asked to reread the testimony of assistant coach mike mccreary. >> i would be concerned but they were not only looking for mccreary's testimony but looking for other testimony that impeached mccreary ace testimony. the creditability and believeability is at play. at the same time, remember mccreary's testimony although corroborates all the claims, really involves one, i believe only one count. the count that involved the young man in the shower, who, never testified himself because we still don't know who he was. so it is possible that this jury is just doing what the judge instructed them to do, which is to take each count separately, analyze each one separately. you can't say he is guilty

of all of it because he is guilty of some of it. i think the jury is being very cautious following the judge's instructions and doing what they are supposed to do. rick: what about, fred the strategy of the part of the defense to paint this as a one giant conspiracy against jerry sandusky? how do jurors usually take that argument? >> first of all that is absolutely ridiculous and outrageous. law enforce mapt decade and a half ago decided to get together to go after some guy who osz stepsably dedicated his -- ostensibly to help children. the we will paint this guy as being a pedophile. i think that borders on obnoxious. one thing, one piece of evidence that will really refute that. remember the jury heard testimony there were falsified contracts that sandusky had made up to give to the schools of these children, the victims, so that he could justify spending time and being with them. and the second mile came in and said these contracts, we've never seen them in our lives. so this whole conspiracy

thing would have had to include planning fake contracts in jerry sandusky's possession. i don't see it. rick: deliberations continue for day two up in pennsylvania. thank you both. >> thanks for having me. jenna: the top house democrat calling or claiming house republicans are targeting the attorney general as part of a nationwide scheme in her words. we have new reaction to nancy pelosi's accusations and a fair and balanced debate on the "fast and furious" scandal just ahead. plus a new disney pixar film making its box-office debut. "brave" predicted to take the top spot over the weekend. will it live up to the hype? dennis kneale from the fox business network breakses it down ahead. >> has never been seen since. and is roaming the wild [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare?

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to suppress the vote. they're closely allied with those who are suffocating the system, unlimited special interests, secret money. rick: republican south carolina congressman trey gowdy voted to hold the attorney general in contempt. here is what he had to say about nancy pelosi's claims? >> is that the best you can come up with we got together in this grand scheme to suppress votes in, i'm sure she didn't say southern states but that is what she meant? it is really beneath the office of a member of congress to say something that outrage just. i would schedule an appointment with my doctor if she thinks we are doing this to suppress votes this fall. that is mind-numbingly stupid. rick: julie roginsky, fox news contributor and former political advisor to senator frank lautenberg of

new jersey. alice stewart, former press secretary for rick santorum's presidential campaign. nice to see you both. julie, this is the house minority leader about a statement about a scheme. is she off the reservation or what? >> i don't know. i don't know what the motivation is. i know what the motivation is not, certainly not to get what is the bottom going on with "fast and furious". eric holder tried time and time again to come to accommodation with darrell ice. by the same darrell issa had his own off the wall theory and saying this is barack obama's way "fast and furious" getting assault weapons off the streets. i don't know where he is coming up with that theory either. rick: i want to go back to my original question here. that is quite a leap. i think a lot of people are trying to figure out how nancy pelosi gets from contempt charges against eric holder to voter suppression plans nationwide? >> look, i don't know what the motivation is. as i said but the motivation is certainly not been to get to the bottom of what's really been going on with

"fast and furious". that is not the motivation. her theory is good as anybody else he is. it is election year and silly season. darrell issa is engaged in politics. rick: these are serious charges, allison. former speaker pelosi says this is no accident, it is no coincidence. it is a plan. you're a republican. is there a plan? >> first of all representative gowdy is correct. that is mind-numbingly stupid for her to make such a claim. what she is doing is exactly what the president is doing and holder is doing. that is a distraction. they're taking away from the issue at hand and she is distracting from the fact at hand, we need to find information in this. she is yet another democrat who is doing exactly the opposite from what president obama promised when he came into office that he would have an open and transparent administration and this is far from it. the issue at hand is finding answers to what happened in the death of agent terry. we need to find answers. we need to find who is responsible. how high up the chain it went. who was developed and when

they knew it. until we do there is blood on the hands of someone within the justice department. we need to find out who is responsible and most importantly we need to make sure this never happens again. rick: julie, what do you think the terry family's response, reaction to nancy pelosi's comments are? i have to think this would be pretty offensive for them, in the death of their son, to have the top democrat in the house of representatives talk about this as trying to be, some kind of a scheme, of a plan to suppress voters. >> well, first of all my heart goes out to the terry family. i certainly don't want to espouse any views on their behalf but i do want to say this. look, eric holder and the democrats have tried to come to an accommodation with darrell issa. darrell issa unfortunately rejected every attempt to do that. he wants to play politics with this issue. there is legitimate questions about "fast and furious" i will grant you that. but what darrell issa has done is absolutely reneged on every attempt to get to the bottom of those issues and instead playing politics with this which is a shame

and would probably hurt the terry family more than anything else who do want to get to the bottom of what happened. if darrell issa is serious about this, darrell issa will sit down with the attorney general and try to hammer something out. what darrell issa has done very much chet up to extremely unpresented viewpoint. ronald reagan exercised this privilege. george w. bush exercised this privilege. the bottom line if you want to get the to bottom of what happened there are ways to do that what he is simply doing now is running the flag down until we get to the election. >> agree 100%. this has been ratcheted up to unprecedented level and right before an election. we shouldn't be having this but you know whose fault that is? it is eric holder's fault and the president's fault. they have had 18 months to turn over documents. they stonewalled from the very beginning. fact we're dealing with now is no fault of their own in fact the president invoked executive privilege that just goes to show more than anything else that he was either involved with gas and

furious from the very beginning or he is involved with the cover-up. neither one of them are very good but the overall picture here we're looking at stonewalling in congress when he promised open and transparency. >> before we run out of time i want to get you both on the record do you think, next week there could be a vote in the full house on these contempt charges. are we going to see a vote or is some kind of a deal going to be struck beforehand. julie you first? >> i hope a deal would be struck. this would be unprecedented vote and unprecedented assault on highest law enforcement officer in the country. we need to get the bottom. rick: allison, will there be a deal. >> there will be no deal. there will be a vote in the house and they will find holder in contempt of court, contempt of congress. rick: that would be history. it has never been done before. we'll see what happens. thank you both. >> thank you. jenna: a new potential blockbuster from disney. "brave" is the name of the film and it is making its debut this weekend. the pixar film took years to

make. tempt will open on more screens than any pixar film that came before it. will it live up to the hype? dennis kneale from the fox business network is here. >> disney's "brave" appears on 4800 screens. adding to $7.2 billion that pixar films raked in thus far. "brave" tells the story of a plucky, fiery head read in ancient scotland. she is the first female pixar protagonist. merida has a mom and a dad allow bambi or finding people know. -- "finding nemo." the three biggest pixar properties took in $2.7 billion worldwide. if "brave" doesn't reach the heights it won't be a for a lack of effort. "brave" has been promoted to 85 million fans on the pixar facebook page. visa, target, hilton, subway

sandwich shops are promoting the film. in may, "brave" characters began greeting thousands of guests in disney world. the high land games are drawing big crowds at epcot center. special version of the "brave" game instantly vaulted to number one in the apple app store. disney's vacation package company offers "brave" tours of the real scottish highlands. to make sure the media are onboard, disney hosted a scotland junket for 250 reporters from around the world. jenna, i did not go on that free press junket. this morning i bought tickets for the 2:00 saturday show for my 12-year-old daughter and me. it cost me $34. jenna: $34? >> yeah. through fandango. jenna: worth it when there is a plucky, fiery redhead. >> reporter: love those redheads. jenna: a winning combination. i might be a little biased. dennis, let us know how you like it. >> reporter: it will be great. jenna: dennis, thank you. rick: sounds right up your alley. jenna: really good film.

>> new york city police are on the hunt for a thief who just walked out of a manhattan art gallery with a very expensive piece of artwork under his arm. a salvadore dali painting worth 150,000 bucks. cops are looking for this guy wearing a black and white checked shirt and dark-colored jeans. they say he posed as a customer before swiping dali's work before putting it in a black bag. if you have any information that could help the police call the nypd crimestoppers hotline at 800-577-tips. jenna: we need the "brave" girl on this case. she could solve it. rick: if anybody can. jenna: new fallout from iran's failed talks in moscow. they weren't the only ones there. we were there as well. our next guest says iran could have a nuclear weapon within three months. that is what he is hearing. how big of a threat is iran to america? and what should we do about it? some questions we're going to be asking right after the break. also a tropical disturbance showing some potential, potential to cause problems right here in

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jenna: nuclear talks in moscow ended this week without resolution. iranian leaders are now blaming the west for standing in the way of progress towards reaching any sort of compromise in the country's controversial nuclear program. joining us now from washington is a man who just returned from those meetings in moscow. he has been to almost every meeting since 2003. michael adler, public policy scholar at the wilson center. thanks for being here today. >> thanks for having me. jenna: how big of a threat is iran to our country right now? >> iran is certainly not a direct threat to the united states. iran does not have missiles that can reach the united states. the main problem with iran there are concerns that it

may be seeking nuclear weapons. and there are concerns about its activities in the region. and above all, there is a concern that, if iran went on to make a nuclear weapon, what it would do for the nonproliferation regime worldwide which has kept the number of states with nuclear weapons under control since the '60s. jenna: that's why this, these talks are so important because if somehow we can figure out a compromise, that might, might prevent a nuclear arms race in the middle east. why is there no progress? you've been there. why is there no progress in some of these talks? >> it is very disconcerting. this crisis started in 2002 when iranian resistance group revealed that iran was hiding very strategic nuclear work. the, the nuclear investigation of iran has been on since 2003. there's been diplomacy since 2003. and then what happened is that there was an escalating talk of war. the israelis were allegedly thinking about attacking. and then in march, president

obama met with israeli prime minister netanyahu and they reached an agreement that diplomacy would be given a chance. there is a window for diplomacy. these talks have been that kind of last-minute window for diplomacy. there have been talks in istanbul, in baghdad and now in moscow. what is unfortunate that after three of these high-level meetings of senior officials from foreign ministries, the iranians and the so-called, p5 plus one are talking to each other. the iranians are being more frank, more open, more direct about the nuclear issue than ever before and yet at this meeting in moscow it was clear with all the good they are no closer to an treatment. agreement. so the talks failed basically. jenna: should we keep talking? should we michael, based on what you're saying is this something we should continue to engage with? >> i think it is important to find a way to talk. it might be a time for a kind of larger offer to be made for a kind of offer to

be made where we say, look, we're willing work with you. we are willing to recognize your right to nuclear work. we are willing to help you with the nuclear civilian program. show us you're serious because it is hard to go on if we're getting nowhere. jenna: what about the timeline? in one of your notes the great danger is iranians talk you to death and you get know where. some suggest iran could be three months or several months away from getting the necessary ingredients for a nuclear weapon. others say the timeline will be farther out, years from now. do the talks just delay the inevitable? is talking part of a strategy by the iranians just to keep us busy? >> it is definitely a feeling that certainly in the earlier talks that iran was talking and not moving forward. and as they are talking they were developing the nuclear program. the great danger now is that when we've decided to have serious talks, and to make an effort, that they not be transformed into talks for

talks sake. frankly i believe to some extent that is what has happened at this point and i think the united states is in a hole about how to proceed without these talks becoming dill laboratory. that is they go on and on. iran then continues to develop its nuclear capability. jenna: you think we're at that point right now? >> i think right now we're certainly at that point, yes. jenna: michael, glad to have you back. thank you for your time today. >> thank you very much. rick: when we come back we'll switch gears a little bit. that is not enough for your e-mail inbox to be stuffed with junk e-mails. now more and more people are getting junk texts straight to their cell phones. offering everything from allegedly free ipads for too good to be true gift cards for popular stores. what can you do to stop the megaspam? plus a brutal highway beatdown caught on tape. we've been talking about the story. charges two suspects are facing. we have a live report, straight ahead. eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything.

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jenna: has this ever happened to you? you get a text message on your phone and when you even it is not from a friend or family? it is an ad for a cheap ipad or gift card. >> tires. i got one for tires. jenna: did you really? they're called junk text messages. apparently it is a growing problem. unfortunately i'm no stranger to some of these messages. on my work blackberry i got one. this is what it says. get assistance with your bills and expenses today. that sounds pretty good. get up to $1,000 now at a website. so i decided to call the number just to find out who is texting. rick: what happened? jenna: listen. >> the number you dialed is not a working number. please check the number and dial again. message 3. az 01 ul.

[bussy tone] jenna: that is not helpful at all. do we need a do not text list like a do not call liz? we thought we would look at this with a technology specialist at mashable.com. and david jacobs, fellow at the electronic privacy information center. peter, am i paying for these text messages? >> you could be. a lot of plans people are on are limited text plans which cost a certain fee every month. if the text is coming in, yeah that will cost you on the order of a few cents each time. jenna: david, how are they getting my number? >> well, a lot of times they will just send out spam to thousands of numbers and then wait and see if anyone responds. and then they know that they have a working number. rick: so, basically these are companies out there sort of phishing? isn't it same thing as you get the spam e-mails in your in-box, it is the same idea but now this is really

intrusive because a lot of times when you get a text message, people's phones beep or ring or do something. this isn't something you can just sort of ignore, right? >> that's right. a lot of these texts are coming in, 3:00 in the morning, 4:00 in the morning and it is very disruptive. the text messages themselves are often false or deceptive. and on top of that as peter mentioned you could be paying to receive these. jenna: peter, i got this text message during our show. and what is interesting about it, peter. it is to my work number. so not a number i get text messages at. is there anything i could do? i called the number but if somebody is getting junk text messages how do we stop them from coming in. >> there is number of things you can do. you're in a blackberry but i'm not 100% sure if there are apps that can help with that but there are android. one is called postman and one is blacklist. they can put some power being back into your hands to block these messages on

iphone, the options are a little more limited because of the nature of that platform. and i really hope apple is working with the carriers to do something that is kind of like a one-click block solution which i think would be ideal. but i think they would have to work with carriers on that. but if theying figured out visual voice mail i think they could figure this out. rick: david, let me ask you a lot of people use cell phones more so much more than making and receiving calls. if someone has access into your number and hack into your phone and get access to all the personal information you might have stored there? >> it is unlikely they could do that just from having your number. a lot of times what they will do though is send you spam text messages with malicious software and that way they can get access to your phone. so it's never a good idea to, you know, go to any links in the spam or to even reply to the spam. jenna: yikes!, that sound

scary. david, peter, thank you very much. we appreciate it. we know if we get one now in six months we could be getting 20. we'll have y'all back. thank you for your time. >> anytime. >> thank you. rick: when we come back we'll revisit "fast and furious" which is now on front pages across the country after having been ignored by a lot of mainstream media organizations for a long time. a game of catch-up being played now to a scandal that has been out there well over a year. the botched federal gun sting linked to the death of a u.s. border agent. our "news watch" panel weighs in why it has taken so long for the media to pay attention. plus a pleasant walk in the woods almost turns into tragedy after a couple slips into a raging river and plunges over a waterfall. we have an amazing rescue to show you that you will not want to miss. stick around. fore! no matter what small business you are in,

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ann romney's opening up about her personal life, revealing new details about her health struggles and what it taught her about her life. more on that coming up. also, some major developments on a shocking story of road rage that was all caught on tape. we've been telling you about it. the suspects you see here are facing arraignment today. we'll tell you who they are. plus, a walk in the woods takes a terrifying turn after this couple slipped into that river. the amazing rescue and much more on "happening now." jenna: we start off this hour with new reaction to the fast and furious gun investigation. we're glad you're with us, everybody. it's been a big week in news. i'm jenna lee. rick: and i'm rick folbaum. "happening now," the parents of the murdered border agent, brian terry, saying they definitely think that the government is hiding something and that all they want is the truth. jenna: it's been 18 months since agent terry was shot dead.

two guns found at the scene of his murder in 2010 were linked to the fast and furious program. and now his parents are accusing top officials in the administration of hiding something very big. it's a fox news exclusive, and william la jeunesse is live in detroit with more. william? >> reporter: well, jenna, this is where brian is from, and when he was killed, lawmakers and administration officials promised his parents that those who were responsible for putting weapons in the hands of the people who killed their son, that they'd be held accountable. that means disciplined, fired, prosecuted, no matter how high on the chain of command. instead, the investigation has stalled as the administration claims executive privilege over documents that the gop-led congressional investigation say are key to understanding the scope of this scandal. >> my mother told me one time you tell a lie, it's going to catch up with you. and it's going to catch up with them. but i think they're trying to make a name for themself off my

son's name. >> if everybody would come out, tell the truth and whoever's responsible face the consequences, this would all be over. he would have closure, and i would have closure. we could, we could mourn for our son which we never have done. >> reporter: now, the terries support the republican-led congressional investigation, and if necessary, a contempt vote against the attorney general who they believe is withholding documents for the following reasons: one, that they implicate high-ranking doj officials, two, that they impeach previous testimony or, three, that they contradict already-released documents that suggest that washington is innocent and that the tactics used in fast and furious were solely known and approved by rogue officials in phoenix. >> i want who's ever responsible for this gun running to come and say, hey, we made a mistake, we're sorry, and, you know, i'm

sorry this went on this long. >> right. >> they owe his dad and me an answer. >> i don't know any more today than when he was first murdered. >> reporter: now, the white house claimed yesterday that this gop investigation is done solely to embarrass the president and that they are a tax bier-funded -- taxpayer-funded fishing expedition. the terrys believe the president is misusing executive privilege to hide the transparency he has promised, and they haven't seen any documents or e-mails, if you will, to or from eric holder, and some of his aides were prohibited from asking certain questions. they have also said that they're going to continue to do this, and that's why they spoke out. finally, you guys, they are setting up a foundation to, basically, help families of agents, foot patrol agents who have been killed or injured in the line of duty. jenna: and, william, where can we find more information about

that foundation? >> reporter: well, the foundation, i think we're going to put it up at foxnews.com on the web site where individuals can donate, because they have received a lot of support. she received 261 e-mails in one day this week. back to you. jenna: a very important look for us today. william, thank you very much for that. a sering indictment and a heart-wrenching story for one family in this country. how is the mainstream media covering this story? stick around, our news watch panel will weigh in on that. rick: we are america's election headquarters, your key to political insight this election year, and there seems to be growing chatter among groups on the left that republicans are scheming to steal the 2012 election by suppressing the liberal vote. joining us to talk about this now is joe trippi who is howard dean's former campaign manager. is this a new strategy, joe? >> no.

it's been going on for quite a while. what's really happening here is, look, african-americans and hispanics tend to vote overwhelmingly democratic, and they live in areas where operatives like me have a very easy time getting them out to vote. i know if i get ten people in an african-american community to vote, nine out of ten of them are probably going to vote for democrat, vote for barack obama. so it shouldn't be surprising at all that the republicans want to make that process as difficult as possible for me to pull off. let me see an id, let me, hey, you're not at the right address. i mean, those kinds of things to slow that process up in an election like this one that's going to be very, very close. they want to do that. they've been doing that for a long time. it's, both parties have different advantages on get out the vote, and this is something republicans -- if i was a republican operative, i want to slow it up as much as i can. rick: but the idea now of hearing nancy pelosi yesterday

talking about the contempt vote against the attorney general as an effort, as part of an effort, a plan -- not a coincidence, that this was a scheme to keep the attorney general from being able to investigate voter suppression around the country, i mean, this is -- are we going to start hearing this more now from top democrats as we get closer to november? >> well, look, i think, i think, i think eric holder's definitely been a thorn in the side of folks that are passing voter id laws out there. i mean, he's been challenging, challenging them. i think this is more about trying to -- i mean, i think a lot of republicans would love to get rid of eric holder. i think that's what that's about. i don't think it's necessarily a conspiracy on voter id. but the voter id thing's really real. i mean, you know, you look at scott brown down in florida, he's got 100 something thousand people on a purge list, 13% of florida voters are hispanic, 58% of the people on that list are

hispanics. that's -- he's trying to purge. one of them turns out to be a world war ii veteran who's over 90 years who actually proved he was a citizen and could vote. so these are real problems out there and, unfortunately, look, both sides are going to use it to turn out their votes and to get their voters, you know, each side's going to claim the other side's trying to steal the election. rick: sure. and there have been problems with governor scott's list down in florida that have been pointed out. but still, this has got to be a tricky spot for democrats because they have to appear now to be against the idea of making certain that only legal people are being, are allowed to go and vote. i mean, if you come down against the idea of cleaning up the voter rolls, it seems like you don't really care about the, you know, the process. >> well, i think, look, voter rolls there just hasn't been a lot of proof or a lot of signs really that there's been a lot of voter fraud in any of the

recent elections in terms of -- people, they don't like any of these politicians in either party. they're not going to cheat to go vote. so, i mean, i think, look, it's a problem, and it needs to be fixed, but i think part of the problem is a lot of the fixes -- i mean, you look at scott brown, for example, there's something wrong with the fix down there. and i think the bigger problem really is right now short term it's for mitt romney. if you have a situation where he's got a growing gap with hispanics, we see the immigration fight, and now you have the situation where 13% of hispanics are on the voter rolls, but 58% of them are on a purge list -- rick: right. >> -- it starts to put the republican party in a predicament where florida could be very close and could be a problem for him as well. so there are dangers on both sides for both parties. rick: joe, maybe if the economy was doing better, democrats wouldn't have to worry so much about this. >> that's true too. if the economy gets worse or better, that's going to have a big effect. rick: do you think we're going

to see a bunch of lawsuits, challenges from both sides a la 2000 this time around again? >> yeah, i definitely think so, rick. i mean, look, and, look, the democrats are trying to steal the election, so make sure your vote, and the democrats will be saying the republicans are trying to steal the election, so make sure you vote. anything the parties can do to slow up the other side's base they're going to do, and i think that's what a lot of this is about. rick joe trippi is a fox news contributor, thanks for being here. jenna: hot out east here, isn't it? for you in the south, though, parts of the gulf, mexico as well as along the southern parts of florida are being pounded by thunderstorms and heavy rain. in the meantime, there's a tropical system that may be building a little later this weekend. our meteorologist, janice dean s in the fox extreme weather center. uh-oh, i see the big thing behind you. that's never necessarily a good thing. >> reporter: no.

and we're already -- this is going to become the fourth named storm, debbie. we're pretty confident this will become our fourth named storm, and, you know, we're not even -- we're just halfway through june which is almost unheard of. so this is not a depression just yet, but the hurricane hunters are going to go out there this afternoon, investigate, bring us all sorts of information and tell us where the center of low pressure is. and once we find that, that's when we're really going to be able to kind of tell where this storm could possibly go. because at this point anyone across the gulf of mexico could get some of this system. we're already seeing some of the moisture from this tropical system moving into florida and along the coastal gulf. so this is going to continue, ongoing this weekend. we could see inches upon inches upon inches of rain. so tropical storm models, you can see this is sort of like crayons across the screen here. we're not really entirely sure where this storm is going. here's one of our reliable models, the gfs model.

as we go further out in time saturday, even into sunday, just kind of sitting and spinning, and eventually we think it could get pulled up by a trough across the east cost and maybe move into florida along the northeast coast. that is one scenario. here is our other reliable forecast model. look at sunday into monday into tuesday into wednesday, and it just sits and spins. and, jenna, we have a lot of warm gulf moisture to feed this thing. if it's sitting out in the gulf of mexico, we could be dealing with a hurricane later on this weekend and into next week. jenna: wow. we'll pay attention to that, j.d., thank you. >> reporter: okay. rick: you a hiker? jenna: yeah, i am. rick: like to go on hikes? jenna: i like to stay on the path, though f that's what you're getting at. [laughter] rick: after a couple ended up going over a waterfall, we have some dramatic video of a whitewater rescue. how emergency crews were able to get to these folks just in the

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rick: the doctor is in. in a brand new fox news interview, we sit down with ann romney. wife, of course, of presidential candidate governor mitt romney, and she's revealing previously unknown details about her life living with serious health issues. dr. marc siegel is a member of the fox news medical a-team, and he joins us now with more on his discussion with ann romney. hi, doctor. >> nice to see you, rick. how you doing? rick: so what did she have to say? >> reporter: she started off talking about how she was diagnosed back in 1998 and how it was very difficult for her at first with a lot of fatigue and difficulty thinking and a lot of weakness.

and then in 2002 came a very bright moment, rick, where she was nominated to carry the olympic torch into salt lake by her husband who was then the head of the olympic committee who was the chief executive, and i want you to hear in her own words how that felt. >> it's a real honor for mitt to nominate me as his hero and to run that torch into salt lake city. and it culminated a lot of just amazing, incredible stories of people showing great heroism and overcoming great odds. but, you know, we all have to have that fire within and keep that light burning. because i've had my extinguished almost to nothing in my life, and i've recognized that how i got through that and how that light got turned up and made brighter in my life was, um, number one, my husband and my children and being, you know, showing the love and the care for me g the other one -- and the other one was, oddly enough, is feeling some kind of accomplishment and some kind of

joy in life. and so for me i found joy in horses. >> reporter: you know, she talks about the horses being healing for her. and i've been experiencing that with a lot of patients where their animals bring out a lot of positive emotions, very they were piewtic, and she talked about how she uses that strength to help others and share compassion with others where it's a team experience. and i want you to hear again in her own words how she describes the compassion she developed in how people cope with illness. >> certainly does change your perspective on life. i like to say that ms has been my greatest teacher. cancer was also another great teacher. sometimes i wish i didn't have quite so many wonderful teaching moments in my life. but it does teach, help you be aware of others that are suffering. and for me i think that's the biggest lesson i've learned from both having cancer and from having ms, is compassion for others. i recognize that we all may look

normal when we see each other and meet each other in the street, but it's that little bag of rocks that we have over our shoulder that none of us can see that we carry around. >> reporter: you know, rick, ann romney is very courageous, and she's developed more and more courage and strength over the years from her illness which i've seen also in a lot of patients. and she gets that strength from her family, you know, from the support they give her and then from the support she then gives to others. a real courageous figure, and it was an inspiration, and it was really moving to me to interview her. rick: it is not easy being on the campaign trail as she is a lot of the time with her husband and dealing with all of these health issues, it must be grueling. how does she keep up her endurance? did you talk to her about that? >> reporter: absolutely. and, you know, we both talked about this issue of stress because, rick, stress is key with ms and many other chronic diseases. and she talked about how you can't anticipate the stress, but you get used to manage it. and i think she's developed a series of skills that she uses

on the campaign trail and she would use as first lady if mitt romney gets elected. rick: dr. marc siegel who spoke with the woman who might, perhaps, be the next first lady of the united states. thank you so much. >> thank you very much. jenna: new concerns russia could play a much bigger role in global politics while we're taking in news about europe's economy, the massacre in syria, iran's pursuit of nuclear power. there's a lot happening in the world right now. with these dynamics at play, where does america stand? it's one of the questions we're going to be asking in just a little bit. also, here in the united states heavy rains and flash floods are causing severe damage leaving some neighborhoods surrounded by water. [ barking ] i'm your dog, holding down the fort while you're out catching a movie. [ growls ] lucky for me, your friends showed up with this awesome bone. hey! you guys are great.

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rick: right now dangerous flooding in parts of northeast

minnesota. two straight days of his to have ec, heavy rain there washing out outside, prompting evacuations. but one family determined to ride it out forced to call the coast guard to rescue them. harris is following these developments. >> reporter: you know, rick, that's the problem. a lot of people were trying to ride this out. this is in the northern part of the state, duluth. it's the worst flooding that area has ever seen. and people were going to try to ride it out. the problem was it came so quickly, and now just in the last few minutes the u.s. army corps of engineers saying it is closing three locks for rivers in the twin cities. that's kind of a big deal. it's first to recreational vehicles, they'll clear those out, and then they're going to clear out commercial traffic, and it could be days before they allow that water to flow freely back through the city. the water ha risen so quickly, they don't want parts of the city to wash out the way that -- well, look at these neighborhoods. an entire high school engulfed, you can't see it, obviously, now. an rv park, dozens of homes

destroyed. the area now moose lake around moosehead lake, that's about 40 miles southwest of duluth along interstate 35, a beautiful community up there. and salvation army is setting up disaster teams for people there today. and what they're asking is for people who can make just a small donation to help. you can call 800-sal-army or send the word, text the word blessing to the numbers there on your screen, 80888. they just want you to make a one-time $10 blessing donation as they try to get out from under this. rain, as i understand it, and i was looking at the map with janice dean, our meteorologist in the fox extreme weather center, they have more rain on the way, so they're not going to dry out. but we're watching this. the governor, governor mark dayton, has visited a lot of those areas today. we'll keep you up to speed as fema is working as well to help people.

back to you. rick: harris, thanks. jenna: there's a lot of big stories that are happening around the world all right now, and some questions coming up about the balance of power on a global scale. there's increasing concern right now about the weakness of europe's economy and the group of the eurozone. in fact, right now ministers are discussing what's next and whether or not these countries are going to remain fiscally sound. one of our next guests says the chaos from a financial meltdown in europe could empower russia, raising more questions about the relationship between moscow and washington. russia, in the meantime, continues to aid syria where reports of massacres come into our newsroom on a daily basis. and now russia is calling for iran to play a major role in the syrian crisis. iran and syria are already closely aligned, and iran continues to pursue a rogue nuclear program as talks with world powers in moscow ended without progress leaving the next steps unclear at this time. and this world with so much

shifting at one time, where does america stand? and what does a strong america really mean in this environment? walter russell mead is a professor of humanities and foreign policy, editor at large, by the way, for the american interest magazine, and brett stephens is a foreign affairs columnist for the wall street journal. glad to have you both on set with us. walter, how do you see it? >> everybody kept talking about america in decline, america in decline -- jenna: sure, we hear about that all the time. >> right. but you look around the world. europe is having this existential crisis, they're losing their ability to even think about anything but their currency. japan which 20 years ago was going to be defeating the united states and people thought about it then the way they thought about china now as kind of doesn't know what to do. america's big problem is that our traditional allies, europe and japan, have been declining. and so we're out there looking around the world, who are our new partners going to be? now, we're looking at countries like brazil, you know, will you

be my neighbor? we're trying to figure out how do we bring new countries in so that we can continue doing the kind of stuff we've been doing? jenna: as we look for partners, though, we have to ask the question who's going to be our next big enemies as well, brett. >> well, that's exactly it. and i do think there is a perception around the world that america is in retreat. getting out of iraq without leafing a presence there, the plans to withdraw from afghanistan, real dissidence when it comes to confronting iran and its nuclear program. and so very naturally ambitious, adventurous, autocratic regimes are moving into that vacuum that's being created by american power. the russians see opportunities. that's why they're moving ships towards syria, that the u.s. made it very clear we have no interest in seeing syria without the assad regime. the iranians, very aggressive both in afghanistan and in iraq as well for precisely the same reason. this perception of american retreat which is come pounded by the weekness of our allies.

jenna: is perception the problem, or is that a reality? meaning, is the perception of a weaker america the truth, walter, or is it still just a perception? >> you have to make a dis2006 between the cards in your hand and how well you're playing them. our cards remain the best on the planet by a long shot in terms of our society, the appeal of you are values and ideas. but i think bret's point that in a number of cases we don't look like we're so sure what to play, or maybe we're -- we sometimes look like we're afraid to take a trick, or we don't know what to do. jenna: why do you think we got to that point? >> well, it's a lot of things. i think some of it is, you know, the war in iraq didn't go a -- the way a lot of people hoped. the war in afghanistan, it hasn't really worked out that well. so in some ways we are shifting our position in the middle east. it's not the kind of retreat people think it is, but a lot of people are interpreting it that

way. >> but there's also, i mean, i think a certain kind of retreat from american ideals. as you said, our power, our ideals are very attractive around the world, and this has been an administration that has been very reluctant to speak for the ideas of liberal democracy, and in many ways has been advancing the ideals of what i call post-liberal democracy, the state as an agent of redistribution. jenna: so you're saying it's a retreat internally as well as folks on the outside looking in and not knowing -- >> where we stand. i mean, why do we intervene in libya, but away don't interview -- but we don't intervene in syria? at the same time, we're giving the europeans disastrous advice about how to manage their already imploding economy. so america isn't standing for the things that it traditionally stands for, among them belief in enterprise, private property and so on. jenna: so what does a strong america mean today? >> well, i think a strong america has the confidence of its convictions, understands it still must play a role in the

world today because the alternative is a world run by the putins and hu jintaos of the world, and it's also an america that, basically, gets its mojo back when it comes to the economy. the reason we're in a kind of come home america phase, i think, has to do with real, a real sense of despondency about the long-term prospects for the u.s. economy when it comes to debt and when it comes to growth. jenna: walter, your final thoughts on that? >> i would agree with a lot of that, and i'd add to it that we need to think more about the future being ours, the 21st century is going to be the time of the fastest change in world history. countries are going to be -- economies are going to be changing, the pecking order in the world will be changing. america's greatest genius is compared to any other country in the world. we are better at change, at embracing change. even when the change is uncomfortable. okay, how do i make lemonade out of these lemons here? that's the american thing, that

is the core, our core competence. it has never been more valuable or more needed. but there are a lot of people out there who think, oh, that's over now, you know? we're stuck. change can only be bad. let's try to keep everything the way it was in 975 -- 1975 or 1960 or something. people are afraid to try new things, and the changes that are coming are going to be sweeping, you know? we've already had changes to the way the economy works, maybe jobs won't be jobs for life, maybe people will be, many more people will be self-employed in the future, there may be a lot more telecommuting, who knows? the structure of industry, the structure of the economy is changing. our job is to be right on the cutting edge of that and make the new world before anybody else gets there. jenna: walter and bret, interesting conversations. as things change, we'll check back in with you two and see what you think. nice to have you with us today. >> thank you. rick: i love listening to smart people talk.

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jenna. the deliberations continue at this hour here in pennsylvania, and it's important to keep in mind that this is a jury that has been sequestered. they are effectively in a news bubble. they have no idea what is happening in the outside world, therefore, they have not heard the latest charge from jerry sandusky's adopted son, matt, who has now come forward to claim publicly that he, too, was abused by husband father. this morning when jerry sandusky arrived at the courthouse, he was asked about this latest allegation. listen. >> [inaudible] >> reporter: we now have a little more insight into what the jury is discussing. they requested to hear a readback of some of the key testimony from witnesses. for more than an hour and a half, they listened to mike mcqueary's testimony about the time he allegedly saw jer key

sandusky conducting a sex act, they also listened to testimony of a family friend who said mcqueary described events somewhat differently. he described hearing sounds but did not actually see a sex act. and rather than having the court reporter read back this testimony, it was reenacted by the lawyers for the defense and the prosecution. significantly, hearing it all now for the very first time jerry sandusky's wife dottie. she was not allowed to attend much of the trial because she was a witness. she was witnessed resting her head on one hand and for a brief period of time as the testimony became graphic, she put both hands over her eyes. when it was over, she walked up to her husband, and the two of them, jenna, seemed to share some type of a private chuckle, and then they left the courtroom. they have now left the courthouse as the jury continues its job. this, now, on the second day of deliberations. jenna? jenna: more as we get it, david lee. thank you. rick: the fast and furious

scandal growing bigger by the day. the attorney general, eric holder, is now facing a vote by the entire house of representatives on a resolution that would hold him in contempt of congress, and the white house exerting executive pressure over documents requested by congress. but you wouldn't know it from tuning into the mainstream media. joining us now, our news watch panel, judith miller, kirsten powers is a columnist for the daily beast. both are fox news contributors. and now everybody's talking about this story because of the privilege claim and because of the contempt vote. but, judith, it really isn't something that has been on a lot of the radar screens of a lot of mainstream media until now. why not? >> well, because the democrats kept saying that this was just a political ploy, that this was a way to embarrass attorney general holder and embarrass the president, that there was no there there. and as a result i really had to watch an extraordinary thing on

nbc this week, actually msnbc where they were explaining to their audience what this fast and furious program was all about. now, if you were watching fox news, you would have known about it, you'd know what it is. but, obviously, for other networks they've just bought the democratic argument. and whether or not you buy it, it strikes me this was always a story. the allegations were always serious. and i think it's unfortunate that the mainstream media did not get on to this sooner. rick: kirsten, anybody looking for an example of media bias, the exclusion of this story from the pages of so many newspapers, from the broadcasts of so many news organizations, there's an example right there, is it not? >> well, yeah. i definitely think it deserves more attention than it's gotten in the mainstream press just because the allegations are very serious, as judy said. so it merits taking a look at. i have been of the position all along and still am of the position that this is, actually, a political witch hunt.

it doesn't mean that there wasn't something serious that happened, somebody did die. however, attorney general holder has said that it was a bad program, the program's been discontinue, and now what we have is republicans really just going after holder, trying to get holder's scalp. that said, the media loves to cover these stories when the people being persecuted are republicans. [laughter] so when there's a complete political witch hunt going on with the valerie plame case where we end up having a couple people going to jail but particularly someone from the white house going to jail who actually wasn't the leaker, they obsessively cover it. rick: right. scooter libby. >> so there is a double standard here. it's hard to ignore that. i just think in both cases, you know, i don't think they should have covered the plame issue the way they did, so i don't think the solution is for them to cover fast and furious the same way. rick: what about, judy, the executive privilege assertion on the part of the white house and the way that was covered. what do you take away from that?

>> well, i think you had to cover that and cover it seriously because it was the first time that this white house has invoked that privilege. now, this standard under which that privilege can be invoked are rather clear. it has to involve national security issue or an issue in which there is sensitive communication. the white house has said we feel confident that this invocation is correct. the republicans, obviously, disagree. that is a very clear news story, and that's something that the media are comfortable handling. just one thing about the valerie plame investigation -- rick: sure, please. >> as far as i know, i was the only one who went to jail in that case, and i went to jail to protect a source. there was nothing -- mr. link by was never -- libby was never actually charged with the investigation. >> right, right, yeah. rick: and that's when you worked for "the new york times," judy,

a lot of people will know that story well, and we covered it on fox news -- >> you certainly did, thank you. right. [laughter] rick: kirsten, now we hear the assertion from the white house briefing room from jay carney that this is all nothing more but a giant fishing expedition paid for with taxpayer dollars. do you see in the coverage now a lot of the mainstream media organizations sort of taking that line and running with it straight from the mouth of the president's spokesman? >> well, i mean, they certainly report that the white house spokesman said that. i don't think that it's reported that way, per se. i think judy's right, the only thing they really take an interest in is the executive privilege, and it is a story because obama's very critical of bush invoking executive privilege and, actually, "the new york times" even, you know, pointed that out in their coverage. so i think in that sense it's been covered pretty fairly, um, the executive privilege aspect.

rick: kirsten powers and judith miller, thank you both so much. catch fox news watch tomorrow, 2:30 p.m. eastern time. i'm filling in for jon this week, so i hope you'll join us, and we'll have more of "happening now" right after this. [ thunk ] sweet! [ male announcer ] the solid thunk of the door on the jetta. thanks, mister! [ meow ] [ male announcer ] another example of volkswagen quality. that's the power of german engineering. right now lease the 2012 jetta for $159 a month. visit vwdealer.com today. did i ever think i would have heart disease. she just didn't fit the profile of a heart event victim. she's healthy, she eats properly. i was pushing my two kids in a stroller when i had my heart event. i've been on a bayer aspirin regimen ever since.

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jenna: an update, now, on a big story just breaking during our show. reports that syria shot down a turkish military jet. greg talcott is streaming live from damascus with more on this. greg? >> reporter: hey, jenna. looking more and more likely turkish and state news agency quoted their prime minister erdogan saying that, in fact, syria has apologized for shooting down this plane. the plane left from an air baste in turkey in the -- air base in the southern coastal area of turkey, apparently off the coast of syria when it was brought down. we still do not have confirmation from syrian authorities themselves, and we

have been trying that they, in fact, have done that. however, our contacts along the coast there in one key town says, in fact, that the syrian air defense batteries did fire upon this jet and brought it down. it's just an example of the growing internationalization of this crisis. turkey has been critical of the government here, of president bashar al assad, and this comes just a day after another syrian military member defected, this a syrian air force colonel who took a mig plane, flew it out of syria and landed it in jordan, the neighboring country to the south, and asked for political asylum and got political asylum. it's been a day of breaking development cans, jenna. quickly, to recap, the u.n. is now saying that 1.5 million people are in dire need of humanitarian assistance. they are caught in the crossfire of the ongoing fighting which continues to intensify across

this country. we were in touch with the international red cross. they want to get into the opposition hotbed town of homs to pull about a thousand families out of there. so far, they haven't been able to do it. they still can't do it. we've been also at the u.n. observer mission here in damascus and saw, oh, about 50 of their vehicles sitting in the parking lot of the hotel here. they've been grounded since last saturday. they're supposed to observe a cease fire, but the fighting has been so spence throughout the country -- intense throughout the country, they haven't been able to get out. kofi annan, the international mediator in this crisis, just spoke about two hours ago. he says this is a critical time, he says he wants to get the forces out there, but it is still just too dangerous. tracking it all from damascus, back to you, jenna. jenna: greg, thank you very much. greg talcott in damascus today. rick: coming up, an extraordinary show at the top of the world. take a look at this.

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jenna: some amazing new video of the northern lights to show you just dancing. i think it's the only way you can describe it, just dancing in the sky over sweden. our next guest shot this film, filming this spectacular display for the last three years. he's chad blakely, he's on the phone from a national park in sweden. chad, three years is a long time. some incredible footage, but why are you doing this? >> you know, i have to ask myself that question sometimes. [laughter] honestly, when you're outside and looking at this, it's really an incredible feeling.

if you can imagine how cool it looks on the tv, think what it looks like through your own eyes, and i'd say that's why i do it. jenna: do you ever get tired of it? >>, no i don't. i get tired of the cold sometime, but the midnight son is in all of us, so we're really for it to come back. jenna: how cold is it? >> right now or in the winter? jenna: in the winter. can you still hear me? >> yeah, identify got you. jenna: this is quite a feat just getting the opportunity to talk to you, but how cold is it sitting outside some of those nights? >> on average 20-30 below. i've spent colder nights, but i prefer not to unless i absolutely have to. jenna: so why are are you in sweden doing this? >> i fell in love with a swedish girl. i married a swedish girl, and here i am. the first time i saw the auroras, i knew i had to get a camera out and try to record this. jenna: is there something about

this particular national park that gives you a different vantage point on these lights? >> absolutely. there are only a few places in the world where you can actually see the lights. first, you have to be far enough north that you're in what's known as the aurora oval, and luckily, the national park is one of the driest places in the world that is in that oval. we're in a micro climate, so we have more nights without clouds and a clearer view to the aurora than nearly anywhere else in the world. rick: chad, it's rick, and i'm totally with you as far as doing stuff for the girl, that's just the way it goes. [laughter] i'm onboard there. can you make any money off of this? how do you earn a living? >> well, i have to be honest, it's been a very, very good year. my wife and i have turned the company into a tourism business. it started out just taking a few photographs for postcards every now and again, and now we're doing nightly tours where we take people out with a camera and a tripod and help them take

a picture of the aurora. it's really been a fantastic journey so far. jenna: so you've been doing it for three years now. how much longer do you expect to do it? >> quite frankly, as long as i'm able to and as long as there's an interest, i'll continue doing it. it's become a passion of mine. jenna: are the lights different now? i mean, do you see changes over the last years about what you see in the sky? >> the lights themselves don't necessarily change, but the intensity and the occurrence, meaning it happens much more often lately because we're going into this solar maximum. rick: and we're watching this videotape that you've shot, chad. do you have to be behind the camera the whole time, or can you just sort of set it up and then go take a nap? [laughter] >> you know, sometimes i wish i could go and take a nap, but most of the places that i do the filming are very remote, so there's really nowhere to go. and then, obviously, it's very important to make sure that the camera doesn't freeze because when it gets that cold, you have to really baby the equipment and

make sure it continues to function. jenna: how can folks find out more about you, chad, and how to find you if they want to go on one of these tours? >> they can take a look at our web site, lights over lapland.com, or they can check out our facebook page as well. jenna: i think there's a lot more to this story than we thought, rick. you see, follow love and look what happens? rick: look what happens. jenna: chad, it's great to talk with you. thank you for showing us your incredible video, thank you very much. rick: all the best, chad. >> thanks, guys. jenna: and we'll be right back with more "happening now." if you are one of the millions of men

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