thanks to rebecca rose woodland, bill, joe, john gibson. that does it for me. i'm greg gutfeld and i'll see you next time. begins now. >> laura: the o'reilly factor is on. tonight. >> the department of justice will continue to vigorously enforce federal prohibitions against racial and ethnic discrimination. >> the obama administration continues its war on arizona's tough immigration law even after the supreme court ruled that the main provision is fine. >> we all have fundamental rights. even if you do not have papers and the supreme court did nothing to change that. >> laura: monica crowley and allen colmes on that. >> instead of restricting access to birth control, we should make sure in this country women control their own healthcare choices. >> president obama takes his war on women narrative to a high school in new hampshire,

but is that the appropriate venue? we'll debate it. sphbland the addiction epidemic. new study shows that 40 million americans are addicted to drugs. >> hit me again. >> so what's john stossel's solution? he will tell us. >> laura: caution, you where to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> laura: hi, everyone. i'm laura ingraham in tonight for bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us. the obama administration's response to the supreme court ruling on arizona's immigration law. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. so shortly after the decision came down yesterday, homeland security announced that it is suspending its agreements with

arizona police over reporting illegal aliens that are found in the state. so while the supreme court upheld police officers' right to stop and question subjects regarding immigration status. the feds will not act to report those individuals unless the suspect has a felony record, has previously been removed from the country or is a recent border crosser. got that? it is worth noting that driving under the influence or duis are considered misdemeanors in arizona unless it's a third offense or done on a suspended license. ironically, just two years ago the obama administration began ramping up the secure communities program that was started under president bush. and as you recall, that initiative meant that local law enforcement would send fingerprints to the feds to check the immigration status of suspects. but today, it's all for not. because in reality, obama's no

deportation temporary non-amnesty policy extends to everyone. not just to those under the age of 30. now, this may make la raza really happy. but not arizona shep joe arpaio who is a target of attorney general holder. appearing on my radio show today, the sheriff acknowledged that he may no longer be able to hold illegals that they apprehend. >> that could happen today if we stop someone. we have illegal aliens and they refuse to take them. what do i do? dump them back on the streets unwelcome to the united states? i'm going to have to figure out something can i do to work around this but -- success. >> laura: incredible. the difference between obama and in 2009, and the obama today, of course is, that today is he fighting for his re-election. and today he needs latinos to turn out big. for him in november. of course. now, enter the enough hotline announced by the justice department for those with

concerns about both the arizona and the alabama immigration law. >> have you reached the department of justice civil rights division. if you are calling about the immigration law in arizona sb 1070 or the immigration law in alabama, hb 56, or any other immigration law, press 1 for english. [speaking spanish] >> laura: okay, how about a hotline that includes an option to press 3 for those who feel like the government has advocated his responsibility be a dick indicated reaction from our bard hard place duo alan colmes and monica crowley author of the big new best seller what the bleep just happened. that is a great way to introduce this segment.

monica, what the [bleep] just happened the supreme court comes down with the decision today and press toe, homeland security essentially says we're not really going to be deporting an entire class of people beyond just the under 30 crowd. >> that's exactly right. you know what? this, what the administration did over the last 24 hours should wipe out anybody's argument, anybody who feels compelled to argue that this president is incompetent or doesn't know what he is doing. he knows exactly what he is doing. everything in his administration over the last three and a half years has been by design. including what he has done over the last week. meaning number one that illegal immigration, amnesty, door opening that he did last week and then over the last 24 hours. what we have just seen here. a president behaving in a rogue fashion to pander politically to a constituency that he really needs as you pointed out, laura. but more importantly, the founding fathers designed the united states to be a nation of laws, not of men. what the president did in one

fell swoop over the last week is essentially rip that notion to sheds and rip the constitution to sheds. he has chosen unilaterally to no longer enforce the laws of the land as it applies in this case. that means that we are no longer a constitutional republic we are a banana republic. [ laughter ] >> laura: alan. >> that's not true. more deportions of this president than any other previous administration. in fiscal year 2011 for example, 400,000 deportees more than any other administration. it's not true that he is not enforcing the law. he is allocating resources because of the economy and i would think that fiscal conservatives would like the idea that resources are being allocated n. a judicious manner in a certain way. it's not true to say nobody is being deported under barack obama. it's just not true. better record of deportation than any other president. >> laura: that's not true. >> you are right about the number of depoor poor stations

under obama. he had ramped it up. you are right about that the question now with the supreme court ruling, the homeland security basically again by fiat tells arizona well, can you call and we might check the status of the people but other than that, we're not deporting anyone unless it's a prior felon or they may be recently crossed the border. >> get back in the country after being deported. again it's an allocation of resources. they are doing exactly what they should be doing. they are following the law. by the way it, is a federal rule. it's the constitution actually says for you conservatives love the constitution, it's the federal government that guess to enforce deportation. not states. >> laura: okay. go ahead. let's just consider what has transpired here. you have a border state that is being trampled and assaulted wave offer wave of illegal immigrants. they will not enforce federal

law. they tried to put in a law runs concurrent to federal law to protect their own people. you then have the president of the united states, the commander and chief whose sole job is to protect and defend us. law abiding american citizens, those of us here illegally. what does he do? he turns around and sues one of our states, one of our states and then he has his administration go and turn their guns on american citizens. in other words, law enforcement trying to enforce the laws in arizona this administration just said we're not going to help i they are taking the side of the law breakers. >> the supreme court upheld what the administration did. on the fourth part where they did not uphold it they said we are going to wait and see because that's that case may still be brought before the court. >> laura: alan, do you think states have the right to protect the sovereignty of their own border. >> no. states are not sovereign. the country is sovereign. >> laura: do state sovereignty. it exists under common law go

ahead. >> they don't have border patrol on the state line. we have a federal government. we have a constitution that says it is the role of the federal government to enforce immigration law. that's what the constitution says. you want to change the constitution when we can. >> the fact that it has been working hand in hand enforcing this 287 g provision for the last, you know, three years. they have been working with arizona and other stays by the way until this election year came up where they realized wait a second. we might not have the turnout that we want. they unilaterally decided oh no we are not going to do that anymore. are you saying on the show tonight that politics did not play into this decision. >> i didn't say politics play into it. i think the president made a smart political move. >> you said it's about resources. is it about resources or politics. >> also about resources and frankly what jan brewer did was hurt her own state and cost them how many millions of dollars in defending something that is against the constitution. she is irresponsible fiscally pushed her state having to

defend. >> you know what's hurting her state the fact it's being overrun by illegal immigrants this administration will not enforce federal immigration laws. >> that's not true. they deported more than any other administration. they stopped illegal its coming into the country to an extent beyond any other administration. >> not any longer. they are not going to do it any longer. new game in town. we appreciate t. alan and monica, thanks as always. the president takes his campaign to a high school where he is uses scare tactics to make the case for federally funded abortion and contracept romney tough enough? dick morris on whether the republic can dated needs to be more aggressive had his battle for the white house. right back with it.

>> laura: in the personal story segment tonight, president obama using scare tactics about contraception and abortion yesterday during a campaign speech at a new hampshire high school. the president seized on the so-called war on women fear by telling the audience that a failure to subsidize abortions and contraception would be tantamount to cutting off those services you can decide that instead of restricting access to birth control or defunding planned parenthood we should make sure in this country women control their own healthcare choices. that's up to you.

>> joining now from new york is alexis magill johnson she is the executive director of the american values institute. okay, alexa, he does a campaign event. one of thousands, it seems. >> yeah. >> but he was in new hampshire yesterday. he has moved on from there. he was in new hampshire yesterday, and he goes and gives this talk and invokes the war on women again analogy. that we heard about last month, the month before and tries to ride that with the students many of them very young, you could see the people behind them, some of them look like they were 14 and 15 years old. why is it appropriate for the president to talk about sex and so forth in front of the high school audience? >> first of all, laura, he was talking at a high school not a preschool. many of the young adults i know, they are getting ready themselves for -- to go to the voting booth. they are getting ready to go to war. i think they are perfectly have a conversation about

reproductive health and contraception. >> when you say reproductive health, that includes obviously topics regarding sexuality and i know your group is called the american values institute. and i would ask you, do you think it's a value, a worthy value for parents to be able to make those decisions about when sexual activity is aappropriate among young people? is that a value worth protecting? >> i think the reality is that most parents and most children should be having this conversation together. >> no, no. that's not what i asked. >> no, no. let me go back to your question. >> some patients don't agree with you. i respect your opinion. >> i understand there is a value in patients and children having this conversation together. i think the reality is many children do not have that conversation with their parents. we need to provide better sex education in school it's not like if they are not having the conversation they are not having sex. >> laura: first of all i don't think that's actually actually true because they don't have

the conversation they are not having sex. >> what i'm saying they are still having sex regardless of whether they have the conversation. not having sex we want them to be better informed about it. >> laura: not all high school students are having sex. your point is factually incorrect. >> quite a few. >> laura: the value of waiting for sex until either you are older or until you are in a marital relationship, do you think parents have the right to inculcate into their children those own values. >> i think they have the right to do that as a parent i have a right to talk to my two daughters candidly about when i think they might be best able to deal with emotional consequences of sex and relationships. >> laura: right. >> i agree with that completely. >> laura: okay. the parents have some rights here. >> you can also instill within them the ability to wide variety of information. getting information, sex education from their piers from, their high school teachers, from the internet. it's not like we can keep our kids in a bubble anymore.

>> laura: right. i think parents want to guide their children as they see fit as parents have the right to do or supposed to have the right to do. >> absolutely. >> is it the role of the president of the united states to get into those issues in a high school setting? obviously he goes to a will hoovment it doesn't mean all the people there were high school students. although there were a lot of students standing behind him as you see in that video. a lot of young people especially in the upper area on the left. young man. is that appropriate venue for him to be discussing the so-called war on women when, in fact, a lot of americans, including right now fort night for freedom is going on, meaning catholics and other denominations say no to the president's cram down on contraception and we have to pay for contraception. if we don't pay for contraception, that means people are being denied access to contraception. you don't believe that do you? >> yeah. actually i do. i think that contraception is a huge part of women's health

services, right? i think that women's health services are in large part preventative health services and do that eption is a huge part of that the minute we begin denying access to organizations like. >> laura: how is that denying access? >> because we are talking about defunding planned parenthood, right? the one thing that obama was saying and you are pug out one line in a larger speech around economic opportunity for the middle class. >> well, that's the subject. >> that's the subject of the speech. but the reproductive issues in that speech also speak to economic opportunity. you know the cost of unintended pregnancy. >> laura: it's not a disease. pregnancy is not a disease. >> unintend pregnancy does effect a woman's lifetime opportunity. >> laura: does the government pay for aspirin and advil when women have cramps. they don't pay for advil that doesn't mean that the government is denying access to advil. >> the government does support many things related to

preventative health services and i think that prevention we all know ounce of prevention is an pound of cure. >> laura: this argument falls on itself there is a right to travel but the government doesn't pay for my to york. it doesn't deny it. they are not paying for it. access does not equal free. >> healthcare depend on our ability. >> laura: we all want free stuff, alexis, that's not the way it works. that's not a war on women. 999 a pont at wal-mart healthcare. >> is 9.99 a month at wal-mart too expensive for most people to pay. >> it's not 9.99. >> it can be upwards of $70 a month. when i was unassured $70 a month. >> laura: not what it costs now apparently. we appreciate it up next, dick morris on the president's romance sunshine state. mr. obama makes yet another fundraising trip to florida. is that a smart strategy.

should president obama be more aggressive?

>> in the impact segment tonight. president obama is in florida for the 16th time this evening for another guess what, fund raiser? as the president continues to haul in cash, some critics would like to see mitt romney be more aggressivenned n. capitalizing on the president's political liability. now, take a listen to this exchange between romney spokesman and reporters after the supreme court ruled on the arizona immigration law yesterday. >> does the governor have a position on the arizona law besides supporting the right of states to create their -- >> -- all this debate sprung from the president failing to address this issue. so each state is left and has the power to draft and to

enact immigration policy. >> the arizona law does he have specific things. does the governor support those things that the arizona law is about? >> we have addressed this. >> what is his position on the actual law in arizona? >> the governor, again, each state has the right within the constitution to craft their own immigration laws. >> laura: so, is the romney campaign being too timid here. dick morris joins us author of the big best seller "screwed." you saw that little impromptu press avail on the campaign plane. i imagine prom any was on that plane and i would have liked to have seen him nevertheless sometimes you send out spokes people and there you have t it. what did you make of that response? >> it's just a bad spokesman filibustering his lines. romney has always supported the arizona law. look, romney has had a run

during june that is unbelievable. his favorability is up. unfavorability is down. obama's job approval is down about 5 points. the rasmussen pole the most reliable consistently now romney had every single day usually by 3 to 5 points. this has been a terrible month for obama and a great month for romney. so i'm not going to nitpick it. actually, his job is to not be threatening, not be strident and not get in the way of obama losing. >> laura: dick, i hear you. i have got to interrupt you here. being not try jent doesn't mean being not clear. right? i think people are looking -- >> -- spokesman was wrong. he supported it. >> laura: god bless him. i don't know him. i'm sure is he a nice guy. it's not about him. but, romney himself in his comment on this said i would have preferred that, of course, the state be given more latitude to determine its own future. i would have preferred that

the court give more latitude to the states not less. i would have preferred, i mean, i'm just telling you what i heard from my radio audience. it's not a scientific poll. i think people want to see more clarity not to make too much of this. it's a fairly big issue to the people of the united states. >> what i want to comment on really is obama being in florida for a fundraiser. about the 170th i think that he has done. more than all of the president's combined. this guy is facing a serious financial problem. i think that when the july reports come out in two weeks, we're going to see obama and romney almost at parody in money on hand after obama had a huge lead. and in the pack front, romney has a 20 to 1 edge in the size of money in their various super pacs. i believe when all was said and done, this means that the september and october romney will have 2 to 3 times the financial resources that obama does. that's going to be very

important. >> laura: fundraising totaling in may. 23.4 million for mitt romney. and. >> yeah, but that doesn't include the party committees, or the candidate affiliated super pacs. when you do it's romney's 77 and obama 60 during may. >> laura: is he picking up a lot of silicone valley support. romney a lot of wall street support. >> obama is spending from his own campaign money to do it. v ads. romney doesn't have to. he has the super pacs. so romney's husbanding those resources while obama is spending them. >> laura: you are not buying the fact because mitt romney is down nationally almost 40% among latino voters that in the end that's going to magdalene matter much in the states like nevada. >> i think t will. i think it could be a catastrophe for romney and that's why i think he should name marco rubio his vice president and i think he will. >> that's pan see a that's the

inknockation, marco rubio or bust? >> sure is while i got you, laura, my old friend hillary was in rio this last week at the global climate controversy. and we predict this in screwed our book. she is -- she gave them a 2 billion-dollar present toward a 100 billion-dollar fund for climate change to help third world countries. and in the course of it opened the door to a new global epa. well, we are talking about american politics. this administration is giving this country away in its sovereignty at the global conferences. >> laura: maybe romney needs to talk about that. >> he does. spending money we appreciate it there is a conference going on right now. concerning the jurisdiction over the internet over to the u.n. a chinese -- >> topics for the romney campaign. those are great topics for him to address. i hope he does. i think people will be happy to hear. we appreciate it plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening.

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>> laura: in the unresolved problem segment tonight, a were forepresident taking shots at a current president over u.s. foreign policy. in a column this week in the "new york times," jimmy carter blasts president obama's drone program. the u.s. treatment of terrorist suspect. and targeted assassinations. and he accuses the united states of violating human rights abroad. carter writes and i quote: at a time when popular revolutions are sweeping the globe, the united states should be strengthening, not weakening basic rules of law and principles of justice enumerated in the universal

declaration of human rights. instead of making the world safer. america's violation of international human rights abets our enemies and alienates our friends. closed quote is carter actually the one hurting the country coming out publicly with these comments. with us is fox news strategic analyst ralph peters author of the book cain at gettysburg. colonel peters we always seem to meet you will over these types of columns. jimmy carter the liberal lion remains. >> liberal pussy cat. >> laura: he remains at least miss own mind somebody standing up for human rights and the oppressed and is a thorn in the side of republic administrations and has been for, you know many years obama administration is quite something. >> it is, and it's funny on two counts. dark humor there. as first of all, he is attacking obama for the single

program in the obama administration that has actually worked and done good for the country. killing terrorists. directly. frankly, executing them with drones and special op.s. but it's also odd because and i think the media has really missed this, that jimmy carter's only lasting legacy to this country was a castration of the cia and the other intelligence services. and he sees a black democrat undoing his last legacy. >> laura: strengthening the intelligence services. >> not only that but reinstating the program that hit frankly. >> laura: i would say some of our friends in the intelligence community are really angry about the compromised national security information out that makes their jobs more difficult. i'm talking about identities of agents. talking about leaked information. talking about kill lists and so forth. so they don't like that aspect what the administration has done undoubtedly. >> heinous. as far as the leaks go, look, the bottom line is simple. nobody goes to jail, the leaks

don't stop. and it's not enough to put the junior guys in jail. if nobody -- this is one of the most shameful episodes of leaking, maybe the most shameful we have ever seen. if nobody from the white house or the executive office of the president goes to the slammer, the message is leaking is okay. >> laura: do you think jimmy carter thinks that he is helping america by making this case or is it more of his mission as kind of the global ambassador of peace and goodwill and harmony. >> the joke about rock bands is we're big in belgium. jimmy carter no longer has the following in the united states not even in the democratic party. >> laura: is he pro-life though. he told the democrats they need to be pro-life. >> especially pro-palestinian life not israeli life. >> laura: i'm talking about in the womb here. he. >> he is sad. he seems to need applause. he reaches for it from hezbollah. note that in all of his criticisms of america's supposed human rights abuse by going after hardened

terrorists he never criticizes ewing gaw chavez, fidel castro, danny ortega, hezbollah, hamas. so he is pretty selective in his application of human rights. >> laura: muslim brotherhood's proclamation that women minorities shouldn't serve in the everywhere echelons of the egyptian government. is that what carter thinks? even mohammed morsi is backing away from that a little bit. >> well, i cannot off hand think of any instance in which jimmy carter has attacked anti-american human rights. >> what do you think of morsi by the way. >> let's wait and see. >> laura: you are being very open-minded, peter. >> you have to be laura, remember, we conservatives under bush cheney we were all democracy in the middle east. that was going to fix everything. now we have got democracy in the middle east. >> and democracies you don't

always get the results you like. so, we have been handed a bigging pile of maneuver so we need to try to turn in the fertilizer. maybe it can't be done. i think you have to accept the fact that is he democratically elected. let's see what they do. >> laura: jerusalem was going to be the new capital of the middle east. jerusalem will be the playground ever the middle east. women and minorities are obviously concerned about their own future. religious minorities have been destroyed throughout the middle east. christians have been brutalized, forced to convert to islam and treated like pigs and dogs and as have jews. i think people are very concerned about what's happening in the glorious arab spring turned into winter for a lot of people. >> you should be concerns but you have to deal with patrol car till solutions. in this case let's see what this will do. we have worked with plenty of thugs and dictators in the past. if we can't work them there is

time to react. they have to fix or the muslim brotherhood doesn't have a future. >> laura: gays to see you congressman and fast and furious investigation. our is it legal team will break t it all down right back with that.

>> laura: thanks for staying with us. i'm laura ingraham in for bill o'reilly. the ongoing battle over the fast and furious investigation. a contempt vote is looming for attorney general eric holder for refusing to give congressional investigators documents pertaining to the botched gun walking program. meanwhile, today congressman darrell issa who is leading the investigation sent a letter to president obama slamming his assertion of executive privilege over those documents. so, did the president overstep

his legal authority? joining me from new york with analysis, attorney and co-host of the five kimberly guilfoyle and lis wiehl a fox news legal analyst and author of the thriller eyes of justice. okay lis. take it away. because executive privilege can be invoked to cover two types of documents. tell us about it. >> right. they can be covered to invoke documents that are high level investigation that is going to the president that he needs absolutely. but here is the problem. and this is the sir could circud of reasoning that we are having here that you can't use them to cover up a cover up. and if congressman issa had said give me all the documents of fast and furious. everything from the operation, from the beginning to the end, i would say that's under doj purview. congressman issa is not saying that anymore. is he just saying give me the documents after the february 4th, 2011 letter as we know. that's a potential cover up

letter. let me as the oversight committee, let me do my job and oversee whether or not there is something wrong with the agency. and they are not doing that. and that's where you get into a problem, laura. >> laura: very broad invocation of executive privilege, timberly. does, i think, hamper congressman's ability to carry out its own congressional responsibility. as lis says oversight of the executive branch. how do they do that when such a broad type of privilege is invoked. >> that's the problem. that's why it should be applied selectively and not in this case which i think is overbroad. it's inappropriate and looks like they have something to hide. what the congressman has asked for in terms of the documents isn't have loom news and isn't by any means something that shouldn't be turned over. if in fact there is a coverup. if in fact there is a document that exists, the president straight up his office is trying to cover that up. what it looks like so if there isn't anything to hide, why wouldn't you comply? why would you in this it particular instance do something that is so

offensive? they are trying to say that it was a deliberative privilege saying just pertaining to. give them a log and tell them what it contains one by one line. >> exactly. that's what they didn't do last week a privileged log. line item of saying we are not going to give you these documents. not even telling you exactly what the documents are but saying we nor not going to give you. this privileged. national security, other reason, we are not going to give you this because of these reasons. okay. then the privilege is very broad. but to go in and say it's not national security and we don't have top advisors, is it just a cover up? >> laura: well, it begs the question and then you have the question of what issa said. well, there is no evidence of a cover up versus what boehner said that gets you on a tangential point. >> admitted line. that's the problem. trying to take the word of people already sat on documents and had to admit that they didn't tell the truth about the existence it and knowledge of this

operation. >> well, to be fair though, they just rereacted that letter. okay. call it lying. that's the why we need the documents it's a retraction. it's not necessarily that it's lied. we just didn't know. we didn't know about the documents. we didn't know about this, that, and the other. that's why the documents are. >> that's called loose relationship with the truth. >> that's been a prediction before we get to sandusky. will the vote go forward on a bipartisan fashion? >> it will absolutely. >> laura: kimberly. >> i concur. >> laura: this is going to move on to the courts then and it won't be determined until a court looks at this? lets' move on to the jerry sandusky trial. found guilty. very emotional state and disturbing for so many of our viewers. in this case now his defense is saying there is grounds for an appeal. you take it away. what are the grounds?

>> basically none o which i think are going to be sufficient but attorney joseph amendola hasn't said he is. he has to in a case like this. 350 years behind pars. one they didn't have sufficient time to review all of the documents dumped upon them to be able to proceed forward with the trial. then they should have asked for a continuance. also that there was a key witness to testify for the defense. expert that was unavailable at the time of trial. again, asked for the court to put it over, make them available last objected to an interview proffered by the prosecution from the today show that involved interview with sandusky and bob costas, three different edits of it. they put forward "the today show" which made it look awkward. >> ladies, i wanted to play for you this is a clip from the defense donor amen doll la.

judg was firm. he was reasonable. with everything we ask for, i believe the jury acted on the evidence that was presented to it and i don't dispute or have any problem with the jury's verdict. >> i'm surprised lis that the judge didn't ask the judge out to go dancing. i have never seen anything like this. i would make the case ineffective defense of counsel. >> setting t up for the next lawyer to say sanduskyy's lawyer was really not in the game. he didn't bring it look at that you can see it in the video. what bringing up. i completely concur with her. that nbc video was played again but they also got a transcript, laura, they got a transcript of the entire video. that cures any error. by the way, laura, the video there was such a teeny little part of the evidence. once you had those 10 young men testify, it's harmless

error. it's harmless error. >> not going to be sufficient to sustain any kind of an appeal he is staling in. >> it's going nowhere. i don't find any problem with the verdict whatsoever. >> unbelievable. thank you so much. and up next, what to do about addiction with a new report shows that tens of millions of americans are addicts. we asked john stossel to come up with a solution. right back with that.

>> laura: in the back of the book segment tonight. stunning report says that addiction problem.

nicotine alcohol or other drowgs. it's addiction. costly social and medical consequences. so what does that mean? does that mean the government needs to intervene with stricter regulations on drugs and alcohol? it may be more involvement in treatment programs? joining us now fox business anchor and author of the book "though -- no they can't. john stossel with his solution. with the title of your book, i'm just guessing, no, the government shouldn't do that intervene to start another round of programs for people who are addicted. do you think that's correct. >> yes. because they can't stop addiction. some people will get addicted. and these rules that are supposed to stop worse. >> well, anti-depressants. kids are anti-depressants, on adhd medication which is prescribed medication and that's one issue. and then they are on sniffing glue, people are doing heroin these days. binge drinking.

addicted to game. video game addiction. pretty much everything called addiction these days. the argument is that look a lot of these kids don't have access to proper treatment programs. so, the liberal argument goes if you are denying treatment, and it's not free, you are denying access much like with the birth control mandate. if you are denying free birth control, you are denying access. >> right. and they say not just free, but it has to be government-approved with national standards. i mean, i don't know why you called this a stunning new study. this came from big government people who are all everybody is addicted and government has to do more. joe, who started is proud of helping create lyndon johnson's great society. one quote he says i love. i was exhilarated putting the thumb of government in the scale. they want to control our lives. they classify most everybody as addictive. >> the government does john

give grants to faith based organizations that do help with and do quite effectively help with a variety of illnesses, obviously the homelessness not illness. homelessness, drug addiction, alcohol addiction and treats them on the local level and not with a bureaucratic response. that does seem to work. that also opens up a can of worms. because the government funds it. the government can take it away. >> why should the government fund it alcoholics anonymous doesn't get these grants, i don't believe. and doesn't get any kind of government approval. and the nih says they are just as good as these preapproved programs. i think casa stands degree tons cretons against sensible america. >> health and human services. see, i don't know joe. i know some people think is he great guy. >> i'm sure he is. >> laura: hhs seems to be the breeding ground for a lot of

interesting ideas. >> government three and a half trillion of our dollars. they don't need to do more. they need to do less. >> laura: how much have we spent on the war on poverty since the great society? 6 trillion? >> i don't know. >> how much has that helped unfortunately? >> we taught people to be dependent. >> laura: exactly. john, great to see you as always. up next, pinheads and patriots. as the president squares off against some red sox fans. p and p just over two minutes away. [ male announcer ] if a phone rings at your car insurance company and no one's around to hear it, does it make a sound? [ meows ] or if a tree falls on your car and no one's around to answer your call, do you make a sound? the answer is probably "yes" [ growling ] and "like a howler monkey." unless you're calling esurance. they have live humans on the phones to help 24/7. so you might make different sounds, like happy human sounds.

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