we have much more and we thank you for sharing. and i want to thank billie jean for singing us to our break and appreciate him being here for us in d.c. that's it for me from washington and kelly wright and jamie colby, have a great day everybody. >> fox news alert for you to get this, a dangerous and deadly heat wave peaking across the country and many people in triple digit temperatures right now. hi, everyone, hope you're cooling off, i'm jamie colby. >> jamie: i'm kelly wright. a brand new hour inside america's news headquarters. and so far, the heat claiming more than a dozen lives in recent days. in i go sh chicago, the city is conducting wellness checks on older and more vulnerable residents and neighbors of a 58-year-old man say they didn't know he was in trouble until it was too late. >> and he likes, you know, to

talk to people and always said hi, enjoy the weather. >> it was supposed to come outside and he didn't come outside. >> chief meteorologist fox news is live in the fox weather center with more details and the latest on the heatwave, and good to see you. >> such a good reminder, a lot of people who live in the houses and elderly can't afford the air conditioner, one time you need to check on your neighbors and friends and make sure everybody is okay. it's a very long system, bringing us this heatwave and take a look at this, all of the states, 24 states right now have some sort of a heat advisory, watch or warning going on and the worst, where the worst of the heat has been and spreading across the mid atlantic where we're seeing the heat indices, 105 to 115 and what it feels like when you factor in the temperature and plus the humidity and that's the temperatures that we're dealing with. here are the pictures of what people in chicago apparently going to the beach there, and

water temperature 80 degrees, the earliest that the water has gotten to 80 degrees, normally a cold lake michigan, not so cold right now. the relief is going to come in the form of severe weather, we have a severe thunderstorm watch box and this appears at 7 p.m. it's going to move in towards the new york city area and unfortunately, very strong winds and good and damaging consequences with it. the good part is, behind it, the big relief in the temperatures, but we have to get through today. and right here where you see the yellow, where it is, and tomorrow, sags to the south, towards washington d.c. in across parts of the lower o-o river valley and keep in mind, obviously, kelly, living in d.c. you know the big storm last week, a lot of people still don't have power and temperatures obviously, incredibly hot and that's what it feels like now, 107 in d.c., 106 in st. louis again, and relief on sight to monday, a lot of people breathing a sigh of relief. >> yeah, exactly, bring on the relief, those people living without power in the d.c.

area, cher sweltering, difficult conditions down there, jamie. >> kelly: a lot of people are suffering out there. if you know someone you might want to check on them. and here is what you need to know about the heat. the body normally cools itself by sweating, under some conditions even that isn't enough. and those at greatest risk are children, people 65 years of age and older and those who are overweight or certain medications and the best way to keep cool, you want to drink, i'm not being debby downer, cold nonalcoholic residents and find a swimming pool, cool shower or bath. >> that's good advice. and deadly storms are churning up the water in tennessee. and blowing the docks out of the water near the dam and dozens of boats scattered along the shoreline, the same line of storms left at least two people dead, and several others injured in the great

smoky mountains national park. well, president obama is searching for level political ground right now after yesterday's once again weak weak jobs report. g.o.p. blasted the economic policies and the move caused the latest slowdown, according to the labor department. if you missed it, unemployment at 8.2%, this week. just 80,000 jobs created in the entire month of june and that's the third straight month of weak growth. and doug mcelway is tracking that from washington, not great news for so many people. >> that's so true, jamie, today the romney campaign is not only counting on the disappointing jobs numbers, but a couple of comments from the obama camp and appeared to inm mies the i am tactffactactf- minimized the impact. and the president called it a step in the right direction and david plouffe said it was

quote, what was expected. with millions of americans facing what even vice-president biden calls a depression, it's clear president obama is simply out of touch with the difficulties facing middle class families. in his weekly radio address, the president did not mention the jobs numbers and instead, folks saying on the side of the transportation, student loan bills. >> for months i've been calling on congress to save half the money we're no longer spending on war and nation building at home. and work to be done building roads and bridges and wireless networks and hundreds of thousands of construction workers ready to do it. the same thing is true for us. and the bill i'm about to sign is vital for millions of students and their families. >> and the republican response, representative ann marie burkle honed in on two key targets, and the meager jobs outlook and the president's health care law. >> the court's decision and

yesterday's jobs report add to the urgency of repealing the president's health care law in its entirety. next week, the house will vote to do just that. >> reporter: indeed the house vote is seen only, as virtually no chance of passage in the democratically controlled senate and even if it did, all on the senate. >> all eyes on those numbers, doug, thanks for tracking it, kelly. >> let's talk about that issue, the weak jobs report, it's front and center in the race as you can imagine for the white house, and the president seeing mostly on private sector jobs growth. with mitt romney calling the latest jobs figure, a kick in the gut for the middle class. >> their prediction was unemployment would be at 5.6% now, instead 8.2%, millions and millions of families are struggling and suffering, because of the president's

policies have not worked for them. >> all right, so joining me right now for a fair and balanced debate on this issue, fox news political analyst angela mcglowan and christopher and hahn, a fox news contributor. and the presidential election is just months away. how much does the weak jobs report bolster governor romney's chances to defeat president obama in november, angela? >> oh, we're doing very, very, well, kelly. it's the republican's race to lose right now. unfortunately, we're going against a liberal spin machine, a macavelian politician and we don't have our message together. now, love the fact that mitt romney said that the jobs report was like a kick in the gut to the middle class, he is that the way to do it, mitt. let's get down in the trenches and that's what we need to do, kelly, to win. >> chris, i know you have something to say about that, but let me get to angela's

point there. and she went on about how romney, and of course, saying this is a kick in the gut of the middle class, but some of his friends in the republican circles say he should be releasing some sort of specific plan that would let people know just how he intends to get us back to working again, as well as democrats, and they just, plus plouffe wants it assert that mitt romney is the most secretive candidate since-- >> axlerod. >> governor romney is playing keep away with the plan for the american people. he doesn't have any plans for the american people and his position is to smile and say the president is out of touch. he says the president is out of touch. and hops on his jet and goes and checks the swiss bank account. >> ooh. but that said these numbers aren't good. nobody is going to say these are the greatest you could have. but he was losing 600,000 jobs

a month when the president took office and created 4.4 million in the last 28 months and that's-- >> christopher, that's-- >> and it is better than losing jobs. >> president obama said after 11 trillion dollar stimulus package, that, and mitt romney said, if that's the unemployment rate would be down 5.6% and now, it's at 8.2% and the people that are hurting most here, are minorities. blacks, latinos, women and the young. >> angela, to your point, it is-- and let me get in a question here because we've got a limited amount of time. >> sure. >> jamie: then of course you have president obama who said the 80,000 jobs last month is still moving in the right direction, but he acknowledges, angela, and chris, that more work still needs to be done and that means congress has to get off its apathy as well. >> apathy. >> jamie: and move with the transportation bill. >> well, the transportation bill will be helpful, but it's not going to be the bang we

need. what we need is the passage of the president's jobs bill and teachers and firefighters and police officers back to work. and what we're seeing right now in this country is a contraction of public sector workers, where most of the jobs losses are coming from. >> christopher the policy-- >> the private sector adding jobs, but the manufacturing sector growing like never before. >> and if you don't recall, when nancy pelosi was speaker of the house, we did pass a 26 billion dollar bill to help with state workers, with firemen, with teachers, the whole nine yards and we still have high unemployment rate with state workers. >> angela, let me add to what you're talking about, chris, i know you're listening in. ann marie burkle of new york, we saw mcelway speak, said the president needs to stop juggling down on policies that hurt business. and what do you expect the president will do, chris, in the coming months? >> listen, i think the president needs to continue to push congress to pass this jobs bill and the president

needs to do everything in his power executively in the next months to create jobs, but that said i don't think a lot can be done between now and november to change the way our economy is going. i believe we will have a bad jobs report next month. yes, and the next month. >> and three months of good job report leading up to the president-- leading up to-- >> angela, quickly. >> and the stimulus packages and he said that the shovel ready programs weren't shovel ready yet and kelly, to answer your question, 28,000 construction jobs were lost last month and that's what president obama has done for us. >> kelly: thank you, and i appreciate that correction as well. >> and they actually did. and the obama administration, clearing up afghanistan and the united states newest

non-n.a.t.o. ally and that move making a political statement about afghanistan's future and the u.s. troops leave at the end of 2014. and secretary of state hillary clinton visiting with talks with hamid karzai. >> my message today is very simple. the transition is on track. and afghanistan is standing up for itself. of course, it will need support and we are pledged to continue our support and to work with you to get more international support. >> dominic denatale is streaming live for us. >> it's compelling how the security forces have come in in order to be i a warded this designation. and you have from the kupt that's been given it so far. and they were saying today some 25% of residential areas in afghanistan were now upped the responsibility of after gone forces and that's quite an achievement in itself.

when it comes to the status of most -- i'm sorry, non-n.a.t.o. ally, how pivotal for afghanistan in the next 18 month, here is what she had to say. >> this is the kind of relationship that we think will be especially beneficial as we do the transition and as we plan for the post 2014 presence, because it will open the door to afghanistan's military to have a greater capacity and a broader kind of relationship with the united states, particularly the united states military. >> reporter: and the afghans as a result of this designation, have access to surface u.s. weapons and also eligible for certain things up to this point. and of course, financing afghanistan, one of the most

crucial expected fights and possibility of the insurgents as they continue to have this. immediately after, which is just three and a half hours long, jamie, president-- i'm sorry, secretary of state clinton in the conference together with karzai where afghanistan will 4 billion dollars a year in support. not entirely sure whether indeed they'll get that. it looks like 3 billion dollars a year with lingering concerns over the public corruption here, and how much money has been lost to corruption in afghanistan, jamie, back to you. >> jamie: thanks, it's been a longstanding issue there. dominique from afghanistan. here in libya, voters casting ballots in more than 50 years following the ouster of gadhafi. and lines reportedly outside of golding centers reportedly more than an hour before they were due to open. enthusiasm over the elections

was not as widespread as where a pro economy movement is fueled by resentment over perceived domination by-- >> tripoli. >> jamie: and extra pressure on president obama to get our economy moving again. what can we expect to see from the white house coming up? >> here is what else, george zimmerman is out on bail entree -- on trayvon martin and the medical report on his injuries. our legal debate. >> and just kept swinging and just, i kept yelling, help, help. he put his hand on my nose, other hand on my mouth. [ male announcer ] don't miss red lobster's four course seafood feast,

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topping 100 degrees today. ouch! and the weather helping firefighters gain control over fires in the west. in colorado flash flooding is now a concern for some areas. and lebanon is claiming violence is spilling across the border, shell fire killing civilians and injuring 10 others. and we're telling you about the jobs numbers, here at home, millions of americans are looking for work, trying to find what they can, during the great recession, many high end and middle skilled jobs literally vanished, but there's one area where a number of jobs has expanded over the last several years and anna koiiman tells us where they are. and related to the housing boom and bust, demand for food prep workers to home health care, increased during and after the recession, a study

from the massachusetts institute of technology between the years of 2007 and 2010, the number of middle skilled jobs, which are most susceptible it being replaced by machines or shift overseas, fell by some 12%. and the number of high end, high education jobs fell by 1%. and despite the recession, there was a 2% increase as personal service dropped. >> we're seeing a shift to service type jobs because automation and off shoring held back job growth in goods producing sectors and they have in the held back job growth in the sector. >> aging baby boomer pop sayings translates to new need for health care workers and child care, pet care and home care to grew and while they often pay less than others, they provide services to the customers. >> people don't need to buy socks, people don't need to go

into the risky investments, you know, and if you have two hands you can go to work and do a job, get paid. >> reporter: and heard from a wall street job in 2009 when he decided to go to hair school and now runs his own salon. and economists say that's a trend they're seeing, financial construction related job disappeared for someone and they turn to the service industry because of increased demand, jamie, back to you. >> jamie: people are doing what they can, anna, thanks. kelly. >> kelly: in today's beyond a dream. best selling author willy jolly, inspired millions throughout the world and named one of the top motivational speakers in the world, one of the top five and he speaks to many of america's top fortune 500 countries and america is dealing with a tough economy now, but believes the american dream is alive and well, and he encourages americans to

have the ability to transform themselves and the world with an attitude of excellence? >> a winners attitude. you develop a winners attitude, where you expect to win. >> willy jolly is on a mission to transform lives by helping people develop an attitude of excellence. >> and remember, as you give for some, have a great day, keep fulfilling excellence and make a difference at somebody else's life. >> willy and his brother were born in washington d.c., his father a journalist, his mother a teacher. when he turned 12 his father died, leaving his mother the responsibility of taking care of two boys on her own, she told them to always dream of getting a good situation. >> she paid for us to prepare for college and my brother went to howard and i went to american university. >> willy went on to seminary school, he earned a living for seven years as one of the top jazz singers of the nation's capital and recording jingles

for national companies. life was good until he lost his job as a nightclub singer and replaced by a karaoke machine and it was devastating. >> i talked to a you about a few minutes turning setbacks into comebacks, with an attitude of excellence. >> kelly: out of the ashes of unemployment, his seminary and entertainment background paved a way to launch his career as a motivational speaker and even now with america's unemployment at 8.2%, a down turn in the economy, he's relentless, urging people not to give up on the american dream. >> the secret is don't give up. you've got to have the change, it's not a nicety, it's a necessity. you've got to have a dream, there's a statistical analysis shows that people with dreams not only live longer, but achieve more. >> kelly: during his speeches, willy likes to use examples of people who achieve greatness learning how to overcome adversity. and one person he likes to

follow is dr. martin luther king, jr. who helped to transform america based on a dream. >> what would happen is we've had a related pointing to martin luther king, jr. and a student and what would have happened to martin luther king on the steps of the lincoln memorial, not a wish, not a nice feeling, i have a dream. >> kelly: and when ford motor company was facing bankruptcy, willy with called to help transform the company's attitude. in a way, we helped to have the employees pursue excellence and ford is the only company who never took a government bailout nor filed bankruptcy and made a billion dollars in profits that year. and willie says that america's best years are still ahead. >> america needs an attitude shift and if we can get an attitude shift, we can come back to be the country that the world is looking at. and as i travel the world. people are saying, we're

looking at you. and what is america going to do, as america goes, so goes the world. >> and i have to concur with that. and he talks about a setback or just a set up for a comeback. >> jamie: if you're overweight or obese, you may have heart problems and suggest the extra pounds may actually do you some good. dr. somati from the a-team is in to clear it up. . >> creating a really safety risk in many parts of the country. and we'll show you how folks are trying to handle the heat live from our nation's capital. . >> another girl's shot melted on the stage and we had to put it on the stage and we were dying and it was reflecting

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>> fox news alert. dangerously high temperatures gripping much of the country right now. and a massive heatwave hitting a peak today. staying cool not just an issue of comfortment with the heat index hitting triple digits, we're talking a serious threat to health. and code red excessive heat advisory is now in place. and molly henneberg is live with more details. >> hi, kelly, more than 20 deaths across the sweltering heat and middle part of the country and nine deaths alone in the state of maryland and six in illinois. if you're saying it's not just hot, it's dangerously hot. this is a big tourist season in the capital. the kids are out of school and a lot of kids see the monuments and some people walking around say they're trying to play it smart and cool and others say it's not that bad. >> and i've been in hot places before. >> and miserably hot reembrace

it. >> drink a lot of water, sunscreen, stuff like that, try to take a break as much as you can. and get in air conditioning. >> d.c. has a subtropical climate and closed all baseball fields and play fields for the and canceled all athletic tournaments at the fields because of the extreme heat. as far as the power situation in the mid atlantic. 10,000 people are still in the dark with no air conditioning and it's been seven days since the powerful thunderstorms hit the area. more than 9,000 of those 10,000 are in the baltimore maryland area and we're all holding on to the hopes that the predicted cooldown sunday into monday will happen and kelly, we'll be basking in the cool temperatures of the 80's. >> kelly: i know, when i return i hope it's cool. thanks, molly. >> jamie: bring your winter

coat, kelly, it's going to chill out when you get there. meanwhile, if you've been following the trayvon martin case, an accused shooter george zimmerman made bail. 100,000 bond. new medical records were released that reveals more about his injuries, the night trayvon martin was shot. a physician's assistant detailing how it was believed that zimmerman did not suffer head trauma as he claimed when he spoke to the police and only sought medical treatment because he needed a doctor's note for his job. what impact does it have on george zimmerman's case saying he was defending himself? here now is vicky sigler, a civil attorney and adjunct professor of law, good to see you. and joey jackson, former prosecutor criminal defense attorney, he does it all. >> how are you, jamie. >> jamie: good to see both of you. thank you. let me ask you what the medical records tell about the

case, i believe there's a new twist. there could always be a twist and this could be spun how many different ways, right? that's what lawyers do, we spin. but any type of evidence of injury is significant, it's significant because the defense can now argue right with clarity that listen, my client here, mr. zimmerman was in eminent fear of his life and black eye, broken nose, and in terms of the head trauma, that's more of a medical term. if you have gashes in the head we can logically conclude that they have some trauma. whether it raises to the definition of medical trauma is another story. the defense will spin it suggesting that this is why he acted in the way he did. in a fatal way because he thought he was going to die. and the prosecution of course will spin it quite differently, as we know. >> i'm going to spin it, tell me if we're right or wrong. we heard him in the video that was released by the defense, saying that my head was bashed against concrete so many times i thought i was going to die.

claiming trayvon had actually instituted that and done that. now you hear the physician's assistance saying we didn't need a cat scan, we didn't need this, didn't need that and he came the next day to a medical clinic after refusing treatment to get a note for his boss. have we strengthened or weakened his case. >> for the prosecution, hammering out the fact, no credibility whatsoever and made up the serious injuries and didn't have such strong injuries that he would be in imminent fear of bodily injury that's what the prosecution is going to argue. i think it's going to be the medical experts are going to be battling, because obviously, george zimmerman was stating what he thought he felt and what actually trayvon martin did. really, is that accurate or not? so that's going to happen. and i think the medical challenges that are arising really are supporting basically the defense's claim

that he was in bodily fear that he was harmed. however, because he didn't get additional treatment when the event happened, that could hurt him. i guess there's arguments on both sides. >> it's interesting that you bring that up, where he sought treatment, when he sought treatment and what treatment was recommended. that's somebody's subjective vision, let me throw this at you, joey, it seems to me if he's claiming he had massive injuries and doctors doesn't agree. he may have to take the stand and explain himself. >> you know what, jamie, he almost has to do that. in the normal course of event we talk, should the defendant testify and if they do, does it strengthen on weaken? essentially there are two witnesses and we know there are others who with state, but he'll explain why he felt it necessary and appropriate to use physical force. i believe whether it's immunity hearing before the

trial he can hit a grand slam in the immunity hearing, but at trial itself. he not only has to explain his medical condition, but why he took the action he did. >> sure, state of mind. vicky, this is what fascinates me about the case completely. i'm a lawyer in one places i'm a lawyer in florida, the stand your ground law, that allows this judge to actually hear this case before it ever gets to a jury and tell everyone what decisions that the judge gets to make. >> the judge actually gets to make in this matter whether or not this case even will go forward on the criminal side and civil side. if there's an immunity gearing which we ultimately believe there will be, there he a no reason why there wouldn't be, this judge could ultimately slow out the case and george zimmerman would not be prosecuted by a jury and that's huge. really, we're shocked here in new york because you know, we're not used to that so i think, as the judge has a great deal of power in this

case and the world is watching, so, for us, the stand your law ground, we hope it's not vigilanteism, whether or not george zimmerman had the right to use self-defense and the judge making the ultimate decision not the jury. >> jamie: and let me put up this point last, kelly and i were talking about it during the break, the judge is not happy with george zimmerman and his wife, even have lied under oath in court, the judge. >> it's amazing, jamie, and you know, really, if you read the decision, he really exscore yated-- talked about how he manipulated the system and flaunted the system and here is why it's so significant. this judge essentially said that mr. zimmerman has zero credibility. he would be testifying before that judge when the judge makes the decision as to immunity, mr. zimmerman and if the judge already stated that the credibility is lost, then the attorney has a decision to

make. does ehave the immunity hearings knowing how the judge feels about his client and if he does have it, does it telegraph the evidence that he has, that the defense has and the prosecution at trial, once is denied crushes him. >> joey, you're so right. the legal team is going to be thinking long and hard about this, what the next move is going to be. >> jamie: i'm not on that legal team, i would be so furious that the prosecutor offered a plea deal and whether or not they recommend that zimmerman take it. we'll follow this one. take care. >> you, too. >> kelly: good stuff. jamie. the dismal june jobs report is not good, but pressure on the president to do more to boost the economy. and what more can be done? we are going to take a closer look next, a sign of the times for one cash strapped city. the legal fallout in the largest bankruptcy of its kind for a u.s. city. . >> this is the beginning of what could be a very complicated case. by and large, he decided that

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>> stockton, stockton, stockton, wow, they are cash strapped. a city this california the largest city this u.s. history to file for bankruptcy. lawyers in court for the first time since the city submitted the paper work and the judge submitted a time line for them to move forward. >> we wanted everything, the judge didn't want to go that far. >> i think it's going to be an interesting process. and the whole point is to end up with a fair and equitiable plan. >> the creditors of stockton have until early august to submit their objections, kelly. >> kelly: june's disappointing jobs report putting pressure on the white house and the

federal reserve to jump start the stalling economy and happened after the labor department reported it stuck at 8.2% with just 80,000 jobs created last month. and so what more can be done to turn things around? that's the big question that everyone is asking, republican critics, for example, to let the private sector take the lead. >> the american people know what has to be done. get washington out of the way. empower the individuals and small businesses, let them flourish, but the president refuses to change course, he's doubling down on policies, that are holding us back and making things worse. >> and then, joining us right now the founder and managing partner of cargill investments. he has a whole different look at this, mickey, thank you for joining us. the president says it shows that the economy is moving in the right direction, the bottom line, is this good news or bad news? how should americans perceive this? >> well, i think it's really

neither, kelly. when we look at the numbers, now, you want to see a bad economy, all we have to do is look back at 2008 and 2009. our economy is good an environment today, is strong, but there's nothing political about that. and you know, i hate seeing these politicians trying to take credit for job growth. they have nothing to do with job growth. capitalism will flourish if we can get a few things out of the way, government stepping aside. and for instance, not having an ever changing tax policy. for every year, we're here at mid year and at the end of the year, not knowing what taxes are for the next year. >> so, you're saying, politics, politicians get out of the way and let the economy do what it has to do naturally, in order to boost the jobs and getting corporate america back on the right track? >> well, there are things that they can do. you know, there are certain, capitalism will flourish, but there are certain things that government has to do to help us and to help capitalism kind

of save it from itself. if capitalism is less unfettered, we'll all work for one corporation because that's how efficient capitalism is. what we have to do is step out and realize the corporations can get too big and we need to go out and about u.s. those up and put a size limit on a corporation, so that it doesn't get too efficient and eliminate too many jobs, now, to hire prices and for consumer goods, it's good for the overall economy. another thing that's happening right now is corporations are-- corporation will hoard cash and that's just as bad as if we were doing it individually. so, corporations should be forced through tax law to distribute dividends and distribute the cash to their shareholders, and for others with that cash and going back into the economy and give people the opportunity to reinvest that money, rather than just leaving it as cash and finding the corporations. >> i hear you loud and clear on that one, mickey.

and we also had a story from anna kooiman, showing those married, setbacks and turn them into a comeback and heard from willie jolley, a motivational speaker needs adjustment in attitude, an attitude of adjustment. and are they stories of people turning around and as well as going out there and saying we have to change our attitude. we have to understand we're a great country with great possibilities? >> well, i know that the president had some politics that he put in place from what he called small businesses and that's businesses with a million dollars in sales. when we step back and look at small businesses, we're looking at the mom and pop operation that toolly employ two and three people and create a living for themselves. and mostly in the service sector today. it's very difficult, even in the past when you lost your job, you may open a bookstore and dress shop, it's difficult when wal-mart can retail a

dress cheaper than you can buy it wholesale. peeve a problem with that, but those are the small businesses and people we need to inspire and create a situation so that they can great jobs for themselves, and maybe one or two other people. and that's small business and that's the backbone of america. >> thank you so much for your comments and your perspective, and hopefully a lot of people are listening. mickey cargill, thank you. >> jamie: kelly, did you do it up for the 4th of july? a lot of people did. you don't have to worry, navy, a new possibly medical story possibly turning the tables on obesity. why being overweight could possibly save your life. a member of our medical a-team, i know he have your attention now. and one milestone one penny at a time. his amazing achievement next. . >> and not much to do, on the weekends, so i'd roll the

pennies and one thing came to another and looking at this, i'm saying, this is doable.

>> all rightment you've got to hear this. one massachusetts man making good on a promise more than three decades old. thomas made a pledge to his wife back in 1977, to make their final mortgage payment

in pennies. and he started saving the coins as soon as they moved in. and this week he actually brought $800 pounds worth to his bank. >> i was looking at this and saying, this is doable. i can pay this mortgage in 35 years in pennies and 63,000 pennies later, and more than a 63,000 and change, we made our mortgage off. >> kelly: good for him. he's just glad to have all of the coins out of his house. i can imagine. ♪ >> well, this is pretty startling, there's new information on how weighing a little bit more might save your life. a new study finds that heart patient carrying extra pounds, maybe not many, have a lower risk of death the obesity paradox. joining us is dr. samati, and

chief of robotics at mount sinai medical center. doctor is here. let me start by saying, we still have to diet and exercise, but i read the study before the interview. 2700 pages, university of california los angeles medical center and perhaps the findings are irrelevant? >> i'm glad you brought it up. a great study coming from a great center, but it's observational, meaning it doesn't prove anything at this point. let me explain to you exactly what the study is about. 6 million americans suffer from heart failure, and 10% of them have a real advanced heart failure, or historic heart failure, meaning that this pump doesn't really push the blood out and get to the entire system and that's the kind of people we're talking about, and the other 90%, what they looked at was, they saw that people that have obesity, they measure it by body mass index, body mass index by 25 or 30, were overweight or

obese, those patients have to heart disease, less complications or less chance of death or chance of getting one of these pumps, left ventricular device. >> jamie: why? >> they don't make it clear. the theory behind it maybe they have more of the fatty tissue that can be fuel reserves and the heart can go on longer, maybe more muscle around the heart to pump longer and one other theory is that maybe the doctors more attentive to obese patients and having real heart failure and jump in compared to normal. and at this point these are theories. >> jamie: that's fascinating. >> it is. it doesn't tell us, hey, go out there and gain weight. that's not the point of this. the point is the research behind the findings are always going to help us in finding the underlying disease and is it inflammation that causes the heart disease and trying bring this altogether. and my message is, they're

always talking about on house call on sunday morning and other programs, and lose the weight. if you want to balance the budget in health care, we're talking a lot about the health care reform. obesity is a huge part of this. and no politician can take care of this health care, without the obesity. it affects the heart, diabetes, the knees and everything else and prevention and weight loss is the way to go. >> jamie: i have to ask you this. if ucla came up with the concept that more weight heart patients, should they publish this? more people will take your advice. >> a scientific case, that's fascinating, for a lot of people out there actually watching, look, if you happen to be obesity and have real heart failure, this is going to work for you, but for the ones that are really not obese, don't go out there and start eating and gaining weight. that's the wrong message. we want you to exercise and pay attention to your body and

body mass index below 25. >> jamie: we want you to watch house call with dr. mark siegel. not only this, but a lot more information. thank you, doctor. >> thank you. >> kelly: be sure to watch, i will. >> jamie: thank you for joining us. i'm jamie colby. >> kelly: and we'll have shots of heat out there. and next, journal editorial report, in the meantime, have a cool day. >> jamie: and check that out, kelly, the heat index, red is not good and it's all over the place, so, hydrate, right, doc? and if you can. hey, you know what? stay home and keep watching the fox news channel. you can't go wrong with that. >> kelly: that will keep you cool. >> jamie: take care everybody. the capital one cash rewards card

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