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jenna: a clear conscious. gregg: maybe they could use a doze of that in washington they could live longer, huh. jenna: imagine if anyone was honest. gregg: ain't going to happen. jenna: maybe they need to serve back some of the honesty and start doing some legislating. gregg: that is a novel and refreshing idea. jenna: they are on break now. they can't do anything. gregg: thanks for being with us. "america live" starts right now. >> reporter: we begin with fox news alert. we are getting our first look at a gunman who police say murdered 6 people at a sikh temple during sunday services as authorities release brand-new information about the tragedy in wisconsin. welcome to "america live" i'm shannon bream today in for megyn kelly. police releasing this image of the shooter, identified as 40-year-old wade michael page a former army sergeant once stationed at fort bragg and the former leader of a skin-head rock brand. police holding a news conference describing what happened in the moments before page was put down by police. >> the officer was shot eight to
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nine times at this incident at very close range with a handgun. at that point other officers were arriving on scene and heard those gunshots, were not aware that the other officer had been shot. they took up a position and did observe the suspect in the parking lot walking, and at that point began to give him demands, as far as dropping his weapon and putting his hands up. >> reporter: rick leventhal joins us live with more. >> reporter: the press conference ending within the last hour. the f.b.i. also spoke calling this a senseless act of violence and a possible act of domestic terrorism. the f.b.i. says there was one, only one shooter but they are looking nor someone else. we want to give you another look at wade michael page. as you mentioned a 40-year-old army veteran who served six years as a psychological operations specialist and hawk missile system repairman before being discharged back in 1998
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for patterns of misconduct, including drinking on-duty. and the f.b.i. released a picture of a person of interest. they say he showed up at that sikh temple after the shooting but left before police could talk to him. the f.b.i. evidence response team still processing the crime scene at the temple where page allegedly walked in just before 10:30 sunday morning, opened fire with a .9mm semiautomatic handgun going through multiple magazines of ammunition, killing five men and one woman and opening fire on the first police officer who arrived on scene as you heard. other arriving officer as you also heard told him to drop his weapon and wound up killing him. page may or may not have those white supremacist tattoos. may or may not have performed in a skin-headband. interesting when we were in the neighborhood this morning spoke to a neighbor who used to walk by his house every morning and talked to page and said he spoke with him multiple times and he seemed pretty normal to him. >> he'd be very personable.
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he was a real, how you doing to the kids, nice to the kids, what are you guys doing today. there was construction crews in the neighborhood an was the kind of guy that would go and talk to everybody. he didn't seem like he had a dark side like that to him but, you know, everybody has got a skeleton in the closet and i guess his came out yesterday. >> reporter: again the f.b.i. still investigating this case, still talking to family and associates of wade michael page. they say they don't know of any other threats to other sikh temples across the u.s. but they are obviously keeping an eye on things, shannon. >> reporter: thank you. it's a monk-like religion found ned india in the 15th century with 25 million followers wrorld wide. there are up to 500,000 practicing sikhs here in the united states. observant sikhs do not cut their hair and the men cover their hair with turbans which is why sometimes they are mistaken for muslims. what might have triggered the
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rampage. were there any warning signs in ahead we'll be shown by criminal psychiatrist dr. alan lippman and go inside the mind of an accused killer. the white house releasing brand-new details on the president's immigration policy that allows some illegals to stay in the u.s. instead of being deported. while the executive order was met with sear just skepticism from day one, it was a directive the timing of the white house's latest release isn't doing much to help either. trace gallagher is live with more. >> reporter: it kind of flew under the radar, shannon, it was released late friday afternoon around 3:30, not get ago lot of attention. we know if you're a young d.r.e.a.m.er, which is an illegal immigrant who came to this country before the age of 16 and you went to high school or got a ged, that not only can you apply to stay in the united states, but you can also apply for a two-year work permit, and that work permit is renewable, as long as they have not been convicted of a felony or a
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significant misdemeanor, like drunk driving. but if you get caught driving without a license, that is fine. you can still apply. because illegals driving without licenses, causing a lot of controversy, because they've been involved in deadly crashes in at least six or seven different states. also, identity theft. if you use someone else's social security number as an illegal immigrant you still qualify to get in to the work permit program. for an american, of course that would be a felony. texas congressman lamar smith who is the chairman of the house judiciary committee released a statement saying, quote, on the same day the unemployment rose to 8.3%, that of course being friday, the obama administration announced a requirement for an illegal immigrants to apply to be able to work in the u.s. the administration's guidelines don't just encourage illegal immigrants to work in the u.s. they actually require them to apply to do so. we should note that all of these applicants will undergo
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background checks. the problem is the department of homeland security hasn't given us kind of an outline exactly how they will undergo those background checks. the applicants will be accepted beginning on august 15th, shannon, which means the dhs has got to start hiring some more people to help process those various applications. >> reporter: they are going to staff that up. trace, thank you very much. >> reporter: sure. shannon: governor mitt romney raking it in just three months before election today. the g.o.p. presidential candidate's campaign announcing today with the help of the republican national committee it raised $101.3 million in july. that marks the second straight month it's passed the $100 million mark. the campaign also says more than 94% of all donations received last month were for $250 for less, focusing on the small donors. this is bad news for president obama who raised $75 million in
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july, marking the third straight month that he and the democratic party have been out raised. chris stirewalt is the fox news digital politicsed tore and host of power play live every single day. chris, good to see you. >> quite so, i like it. shannon: we are talking about fundraising, the last couple of months, romney and rnc doing better than obama and the dnc. the polling continues to show that the president is ahead. if you look at most of the average of polls out there. does the money lead or does the polling lead where folks are really going? >> well, remember, when we look at those polls, what we're looking at now is the small number of undecided voters and what mitt romney believes, and when you talk to people in romney land, what they believe is that the undie sideds are going to break heavily in their favor. they figure that this cash haul and two consecutive months of more than a hundred million dollars are going to equip them with the money they need to make the closing argument in the swing states. remember, shannon this is really
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important. the president has been raising money all this time, he had no primary. he's been able to raise primary funds and spend them against mitt romney for general rehrebgs purposes. romney and the republican national committee have been raising this money and they have to sit on it until mitt romney is actually the nominee. we are talking 25 days or so before they can start dumping this cash. they are predicting everything on a strong closing argument to get these undie sided voters, especially independent voters to swing their way in the swing states. shannon: you and i live in the d.c. area, because virginia is probably going to be one of the swing states, i don't know about you, we get the commercials every commercial break for one side or the other. do you think we will see a noticeable jump or difference when the restricter plates come off and the romney campaign can freely spend its money after the convention? >> if you like political ads you will experience no deficiency in the coming weeks. but here is the deal, and this is something else to remember. the name of the game on presidential fundraising, it's not necessary -- it's not necessarily who has more, it's
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that you have to make sure you have enough. and what it looks like now, even though the president is lagging mitt romney, and by the way the president has another problem, which he's spending at too fast a rate. burning through his cash reserve because he has this very expensive operation that he has built out since the spring. the name of the game basically is make sure you have enough at the end. when you talk about the ads you get to super saturation so that every second of every commercial break in every swing state it's totally saturated with those ads and there is no more ad inventory to buy. that's what you're looking to do, is to make sure you can get there and jam the airwaves like the other guy. shannon: would the romney camp be two optimistic to read into the white house caution to not be too disappointed in what we're seeing? >> well, look for the president the problem is he's not -- he does not see the same kind of enthusiasm in his giving. look at all the time, for goodness sakes he has to spend out nuzzling rich people to get them to give him money. he's back in connecticut today
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with a handout. he needs more money to fund this very expensive operation and he's not getting the kind of size of individual contributions certainly that he had in 2008. i think they've missed the mark. romney on the other hand is seeing a raise in small dollar donations. small dollar donations are an excellent barometer of not just financial viability but also enthusiasm of our electorate and that points one more time to the fact that the republicans will have an enthusiasm edge going into this election. shannon: we shall see. we love to see that you know it all even before it happens. thank you. the white house releasing new details about its immigration policy which allows some illegal immigrants to remain in the u.s. trace outlined some of the never released details of the plan. in three minutes lou dobbs weighs in on what he thinks about the unusual timing of the announcement. harry reid's accusations that governor romney didn't pay taxes for years, what white house press secretary jay carney just
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said about reid's accusations. we'll debate it fair & balanced. remember this scene? the f.b.i. raiding an arizona home because a machine was holding bible study classes inside. that homeowner now behind bars. trace has the update. >> we have the right as americans to gather on our property, privately, with our family and friends, in the privacy of our home, and that you cannot make us become commercial. [ male announcer ] this is anna, her long day teaching the perfect swing begins with back pain and a choice. take advil, and maybe have to take up to four in a day. or take aleve, which can relieve pain all day with just two pills. good eye. it's got that sweet honey taste. but no way it's 80 calories, right? no way, right? lady, i just drive the truck. right, there's no way right, right? have a nice day. [ male announcer ] 80 delicious calories.
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shannon: new details today of yet another near miss in the skies, this time close to jfk airport in new york city. it happened in early 2011. according to federal investigators and american airlines flight with some 250 passengers on board came within seconds of crashing into an air force cargo plane. they missed each other by just 2,000 feet. the american pilots were able to
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make three quicky vase i have moves to avoid catastrophe. the aircraft were suppose toebd miles apart. the ntsb blames a series of communication breakdowns between two jfk air traffic controllers. back to one of our top stories this hour, the white house laying out new details of the president's controversial immigration policy which allows some illegals to stay in the u.s. instead of being deported. while some see the plan as a step in the right direction others are wondering why the white house chose to make that announcement late on a friday afternoon. lou dobbs is host of lou dobbs tonight on fox business channel and syndicated radio host at lou dobbs.com. good to see you. this won't be the first administration to drop something somewhat controversial on a friday afternoon. >> it's not the first time that this administration has done so as you well know. this is interesting, because this is a major change in policy. it is a change in policy that many say is well beyond the
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scope of the powers of the presidency to begin with. that is to basically, through fiat, overwhelm state laws that say that it is illegal for an illegal immigrant to possess a driver's license. across federal laws as well that say that it is a felony to commit identity theft and fraud, on the levels that, you know, many illegals are certainly choosing to do in coming to this country, and then trying to secure work. shannon: it's interesting because apparently there was a call with a top administration official about this. the daily caller reports that during that call they found out that you mentioned identity theft, this new policy wouldn't block somebody who was found guilty of identity theft to be deported. driving without a license could still apply for the program. it was extended to people in jail or already set for deportation by a judge.
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why would those are the people we would choose to let stay? >> none of this on its face makes a lot of sense, other than to say that it is a straightforward play to a voting block with which this administration wants to curry favor. interestingly, though, this is also a slap in the face of a certain group of people, certainly within a larger voting block. and that group of people would be those who were concerned about the fact that certain citizens don't have the same rights as those that come to the country illegally, work here illegally and live here illegally. it is absolutely against the law for any american to commit identity theft and it is a serious, serious felony. it is simply waived away by this administration for those illegal immigrants between the ages of 16 and 30 who would choose to claim that they have been here through no fault of their own but through their parents. think about this. this is going to take months and
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months, if not years to process these claims and to substantiate who is here, under what circumstances, where they went to school, if they did. where they worked, if they did, and under what name, if they did provide that information. this is a ruse by any other name. and the bureaucrats, for example, u.s. citizenship and immigration services, which will handle the processing for all of this. they have 18,000 people. they are five to seven years behind on applications for lawful entry into this country, with visas, permanent residency, green cards, and now suddenly they have got to deal with what the pew research center says will amount to somewhere around a million and a half people in short order. it is truly madness. shannon: and quickly, you mentioned it's an election year -- >> right i noticed that. shannon: voters seem already overwhelmed -- hispanic voters.
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>> by 70%. shannon: do you think there will be a backlash, about the people who fought to come here legally and the americans could can't find jobs. >> this president has insulted almost everybody and the groups he chose to pander toward. this country has put up a lot more nonsense than i ever dreamed possible, and i'm thinking mostly of many elected officials in washington d.c. but this is a raw, arrogant abuse i believe of this president's power. rationalize it as he might and the democrats, there is not even a statement here, you mentioned a number of people unemployed, under employed have begin up looking for work, there is not even a number on these temporary advice as, there is no limit on them. whatever the number, that's what it will be. this is so extraordinarily
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reckless and simply irresponsible that it's breathtaking. shannon: all right. lou dobbs, always good to see you. >> great to be with you. shannon: you can catch lou on the fox business network every single night. lou dobbs tonight heirs we can needs 7pm eastern time. new information about the gunman and the sikh temple shooting raising even more questions about who the man really was. could details from his past have predicted this future tragedy? a top criminal psychologist joins us. the f.b.i. raiding an arizona house because a machine was holding bible study classes inside. now that homeowner is behind bars, that story in three minutes. an incredible brand-new images from mars after a nasa mission that was eight years in the making. stunning images just ahead. >> touchdown confirmed. we are safe on mars. [cheering] >> glad to see where our
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shannon: a a controversy sparking outrage in one rhode island community. this after a national group demanded that a cross be stripped there a monument honoring soldiers who died in the first and second world war. the memorial has stood in the lobby of the one socket fire department with no complaints until the religious freedom foundation spoke up. they say the city will not remove the cross under any circumstances. and arizona pastor jailed for holding group bible study at his home is doing the same thing behind bars now. michael salman is serving 60 days for violating probation by hosting as many as 80 people on
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private property. trace gallagher is live from our los angeles bureau. >> reporter: he is an ordained pastor, the father of six and he's been serving in maricopa county's tent city jail for 30 days. he has 30 days too go. the reason he got tossed into jail in the first place is because the bible studies in his home had 80, maybe more at a time. he and his family believe they have a right to worship at their home on private property and say only family and friends came to the bible sessions, but the deal is that he went to his neighborhood association a couple of months ago and applied for a game room permit. instead of putting games in there he put in church pews, and the city says that is a violation of building, zoning and fire codes. here is michael salmon, listen. >> as long as we were using the building for social or recreation alor amusement
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purposes it was fine. but the moment we made the building for religious use it became a violation. >> reporter: but the city prosecutor's office says and i'm quoting here, any time you are holding a gathering ever people continuously as he does, we have concerns about people being able to exit the facility properly in case there is a fire, and that's really all this comes down to, but you're probably wondering, how does a zoning violation get you tossed into the infamous and miserable tent city? it turns out the pastor is on probation. he was accused in a drive by shooting, as well as charged in impersonating a police officer. he now says this is, by the way, the police raiding his bible study groups. he says he is a changed man and he believes he has the right to pray in his house. listen. >> we have the right as americans to gather on our property privately with our family and friends, in the privacy of our home, and that
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you cannot make us become commercial. >> reporter: and by the way, those bible study sessions in tent city, shannon, pretty good crowd. he's getting between 30 and 40 inmates at a time. doing well. shannon: you never know what is part of the plan. thank you, trace. >> reporter: okay. shannon: new fallout from majority leader harry reid's accusations that governor romney didn't pay taxes for years. what white house press secretary jay carney getting hammered on this topic during today's briefing, what he just said about it and we'll have a fair & balanced debate. a safe and shoot landing for nasa's occu curiosity rover kicking off a new era for the space agency. the first images from the red planet being beamed back to earth. a big apology from the man who berated a chick-fil-a employee, what he now wants to say to her coming up. >> i have to say my personal beliefs is it shouldn't be in
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jet propulsion lab in california. nasa got good news. >> reporter: the celebration started to die down as the work begins. we have a chance to hear from nasa. there have been no hiches or glitches, that's a quote, as curiosity sits 154 million miles away next to a massive mountain the size of mount rainier on the planet mars. these are from a camera that sits down towards the wheels that gives them an idea of the terrain around the road itself. they are not the high-definition pictures we expect, but they are pictures nasa is very excited about. take a listen. >> it's representative of a new home, it's representative of a new mars that we have never seen before. so every one of those pictures is the most beautiful picture i
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have ever seen. >> reporter: not even close to what we are going to see. hd quality pictures, the panoramas, the video, that will all come in the next few days. we have a life-size mockup. that mass with the camera on top of it, that will go up a pretty good distance and give a perspective from above. you will see some of the instruments that will go into the surface of mars and will be able to scoop things out. it can drill through concrete. 10 different instruments and they are excited about what they hope to find and the possibility that life once existed on mars. >> he set the precedent that people running for president would file their tax returns. have everybody look at them.
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but mitt romney can't do that because he's basically paid no maximums in the prior 12 years. shannon: this weekend two top democrats doubled down on that idea. dnc chair debbie wasserman-shultz and david axlerod asking what romney has to hide by not releasing his tax returns. it took jay carney several tries to answer questions on that today. >> does the president think it's appropriate for leader reid to be make unsubstantiated charges on the senate floor and has the white house spoke on him about it. >> i am not aware of the white house speaking to senator reid about this specific issue. you all probably know senator reid well and he speaks for himself. >> the president talked a lot about changing the tone in this
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town. why didn't he pick up the phone and ask harry reid to stop making a charge like this. >> i think the idea that people tell harry reid what to do is inconsistent. >> the charges that romney didn't pay taxes for 10 years. does the white house believe that allegation. >> i refer you to senator reid. only senator reid knows his source. >> does the president think this allegation coming coming from wt any evidence made on the senate floor, is that below the belt? does that cross the line? >> the president has not expressed an opinion to me on this. shannon: is this a fight the democrats want to pick and could it work to their advantage? brad, has it been successful because instead talking about jobs numbers and the unemployment rate we have been talking about harry reid's allegation. >> i don't think it's successful
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about it comes from the democratic 3-d play book. i think harry reid has gone beyond the pail -- beyond the pale. it's about the person he's running against. for him to take a position that harry reid can basically go to the floor of the senate, a hallowed place where people are suppose to be conducting official public business and use it as a platform for partisan atakes beyond the pale. i believe they should bring an ethics investigation on harry reid how it's possible to bring shame upon himself as a senator and use the senate as a tool of a partisan game that he's playing on taxes. shannon, this is not going to be successful. i don't think it's been successful today. shannon: how fine a line is senator reid making. pretty substantial charges but
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consistently saying he has a source or the word is out. how much of a delegate dance is he doing here? >> there is only one way to put this to rest. it's an easy way to do it. governor romney can release more years of his tax returns. it's a simple way to conversation. we don't have to keep going back and forth. he can just release them. shannon: is he being blackmailed into doing that by an unsubstancated charge by senator reid? >> i don't think he's being blackmailed. >> he should be making his charge at the democratic national committee, not on the floor of the senate. what further answer of cincinnati business is there? that's what he was elected to do? what benefit does that have to the job he's supposed to be doing as the majority leader of
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the senate. shannon: it may be something uncomfortable for the white house to deal with. he says waver wants to say. i would imagine whether you are cory berke or senator dianne feinstein or senator harry reid and if you get a call from the white house saying cool it, you will listen to them. >> i think this is probably not on the top of the agenda of what the white house has been looking at. harry reid has the sources, he hasn't shared them. last week the obama campaign rolled out their tax plan. i would imagine that's what they have been focusing on. shannon: brad, do you think harry reid -- how does this end? will he have to name his source or will it take him through november? >> i think should put up or shut up. harry reid loves for others to release their tax returns but he fails to release his. how is it possible that a
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lifelong public servant has become a multi millionaire during this public service. i think has a lot to answer for as to how he got rich. how can he benefit himself when he can't help the american people. shannon: is that fair to ask harry reid to release his tax returns. and nancy pelosi who joined with backing senator reid. he said somebody told her it is a fact, that's her quote. should either of them be forced to release their tax returns if they are saying this is the only solution to resolving this unsubstantiated attack. >> governor romney is asking the american people to become the president of the united states. harry reid asked the people of nevada to be senator and they said yes. >> he didn't release his tax returns when he was running. shannon: congresswoman pelosi says when she runs for president
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she'll release her tax returns. >> i think this is something that governor romney needs to do. people are looking for authenticity. you can't have tax returns, you show them to john mccain when you want to be the vice president. show them to the american people. shannon: new reports on the true cost of healthcare. some of the country's biggest companies predicting they will be paying for more health insurance and passion that cost on to you. it will happen faster than you think. a diplomatic flap over this picture. president obama holding a baseball bat. we'll tell you. what we are learning about the wisconsin temple short. could this attack have been prevented? a top profiler joins to us go inside the mind of an accused killer.
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. shannon: a baseball bat causing a diplomatic flap with turkey. this picture shows president obama holding a baseball bat during a phone call with turkey's prime minister. the white house says the photo emphasizes the close relationship between the two leaders. we are learning more about the suspected gunman who killed 6 people before being fatally shot at a sikh temple in wisconsin.
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police releasing this image of the shooter, wade michael page once stationed at fort bragg and the leader of a skin head rock band. police say michael page. dr. allen lihman, we are just getting pieces in on the suspected short. what would trigger the average person in into what he's accused of. he's not the average person. let me telecast audience up with some of the facts. we know that page was from two years after he was released from military service, honorably as far as we can tell, though there might be some question about this. he said in an interview he did with a neo-nazi record labels that he went through a kind of break. he broke with his past. from that point on for the next
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12 years he began to play with a series of absolutely extreme racist white power anti-semitic bands. these are band if you look them up on the web they have videos on youtube like youngblood which calls for the overthrow of everyone but the white people. there are many bands like this and he set up one of his own. for 12 years he was preoccupied with white supremacy, neo-nazi and racist sentiments. two weeks ago right after the denver shootings it looks like he moved to a new apartment. and he seemed to know the sikh temple well even though no one at the temple has ever seen him there before. so it seems quite possible he had checked this area out. if you put this all together based on similar shootings from the past we have seen in the secret service study, this seems
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to be someone absolutely enraged, filled with anger as his neighbor said, this was someone who seemed angry at the world. someone who was psychopathic, who need to be violent and angry, and there were reports in the past couple weeks of arguments with a girlfriend. and these cases where you have someone who is a ticking time bomb, who is enraged and raged at the world, furious at themselves and furious at the world for rejecting them. if there is a trigger. if there is some kind of a breakup or rejection that lights the match to the bomb and you get these kind of explosions, people who want to go out in a blast of glory. we saw the same type of thing at virginia tech and columbine. this is the pattern that's starting to come together. the actions seem to start to happen two years after he was discharged from the military in 2000 when he threw everything aside and took up with these
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extremist racist flee oh nazi white power groups. and some of your viewers might be wondering, what do i mean by this, by a band that is what white power band. let me read to you a little bit of lyrics from the first band he decided to join. the youngland band which refer to the german state. i'm going to write a letter to the head of the state and tell him i refuse to pay one more nickel to a corrupted system that send my money to the jews. now, this is not the kind of stuff you hear on your top 40 a.m. radio. this is a sub culture he was immersed in for 12 years. shannon: if you know someone like this in your community how do you make a distinction between those that will engage in messages of hate or music
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that speaks to them versus somebody who will take this next step and harm other people. where is the red flag and where is the line that's crossed? >> it's an excellent question. if we compare mr. holmes, for example. holmes is an easier case, could have been predicted with greater ease because in his life up until a certain point he was functioning relatively normally. he was doing well in school. he was achieving very well. then there was that critical break point that we always see around the late teens, early 20s where a person manifests psychosis and says bizarre things, and begins to get treatment. we know there is an active mental jillness. we know this person was of great rising. with page, his personality from two years after he got out of the military and perhaps before was oriented not merely shannon towards unusual music or even
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edgy music, but music that backed the order that calls sport overthrow of the i.s. government and the removal of all non-white people and jews from the u.s. that's what they sing about. so this is a dangerous sub culture. they are all very dangerous. and the question -- they committed dangerous acts. the leader of the order has a 190-year felon sentence for acts he committed on hate. so the question is with these kind of groups is who do you pick? you have a bunch of people psychopathically enraged and the way to come eight is we need focus on hate groups in this society. these are neither right nor left. they are hate. and we need to stop it. shannon: thank you for your insights. we are following new developments in the showdown with iran. an israeli newspaper reporting new details on how a possible strike could happen against the rogue nation.
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colonel ralph peterson and ambassador bolton. video of a chick-fil-a confrontation goes viral. now a man is turning it on himself. >> i don't know how you live with yourself and work here. probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ female announcer ] live the regular life. phillips'. or annuity over 10 or even 20 years? call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today.
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>> reporter: adam smith got fired because after the founder of chick-fil-a came out and said he supports traditional marriage web was so outraged he went to one of the local restaurants and look at the rant he did against one of the employees named rachael. >> you know why i'm getting the free water, right? >> i do not. >> because chick-fil-a is a hateful corporation. >> i wouldn't -- we don't discriminate. >> but the corporation gives money groups. hate groups. just because people want to kiss another guy. >> i have to stay we are always to serve everybody. >> i don't know how you live with yourself and work here. i don't understand it. this is a horrible corporation with horrible values. >> reporter: now he's back on the internet with a tearful apology. this time he says he is so sorry
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to rachel the employee. listen. >> rachel, i am so very sorry for the way i spoke to you on wednesday. you handled my frustrating rant with dignity and composure at a time i watched the video, i'm blown away by really the beauty in what you did and your kindness and your patience with me. >> reporter: after he posted that on the internet he went back into that chick-fil-a to find rachel to apologize and clearly she did not want to see him. rant went viral. the apology has gotten 300 hits so far. not doing quite as well. shannon: it was big of him to apologize to her and recognize how classy she was through the whole thing. hopefully the apology gets to
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shannon: this is a fox news alert. you could soon be paying a whole lot more for your health insurance. the national business group on healthcare saying that healthcare costs for big companies are expected to jump 7% next year. that could mean higher premiums and more out of pocket costs for you. in fact 6 in 10 employers in the survey plan on increasing the percentage their workers will have to cough up for the premiums so that paycheck could wind up shrinking.
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it all gets down to how much you will have to pay for in-network doctors. out of network doctors. charles, i want to get your reaction to what we are hearing on it of this brand-new survey this morning. >> i think it's a confirmation of a lot of things we have heard for a long time. our economy is growing at less than 2% a year. if you think healthcare costs will be 7% or more, just put it according to the ceo of the study, that's unsustainable. that's a massive hit to large businesses and they have to make adjustments including not hiring people. raising prices and delaying big-time projects. >> for the rest of us who were worried about paychecks and people who can't find a job, how will this impact overall specter of hiring given that employers know this will cost them on benefits. does it impact their choice to
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take away those benefits all together? >> absolutely. and it impacts the quality. this mandate sort of says, people have to be covered. it doesn't say a lot about how you cover their spouses. how cover their dependents. how do you cover retirees. there are a lot of question marks in there and there is no doubt this will hamper any sort of efforts to hire. from large to small, this of course is a survey of large businesses. but we heard from it small businesses as well. even though the supreme court said it is a tax, and it can be levied against businesses. no one is sure how they will deal with it. but we know one thing that's crystal clear. the cost curve does not bend down, it continues to bend higher. shannon: you mentioned 82 of the largest corporations in the united states are the ones behind this survey. we mentioned small businesses. we heard a number of small
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businesses and we have seen polling from them. they are very worried primarily because of uncertainty. but now we have numbers that show costs will go up. are you saying larger businesses aren't insulated from these spikes? >> absolutely not. you will see some large businesses push a certain portion of their employees into exchanges. some may try to figure out other ways around it. there are a whole lot of question marks. there are very few businesses out there that i think exactly know how they are going to deal with this. everyone knows one thing for sure, though. costs are going to continue to go much higher. for the majority of businesses large and small, their number one expense happens to be employees. you heap this on top of healthcare growing at 7%. typically that means less hiring and more expenses for all of us, the end user of those consumer products and services.
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shannon: you mentioned the state exchanges. so is it your best guess that despite the promises otherwise, folks may not be able to keep their doctor or insurance they have now? >> you are absolutely right. even with large businesses, a large portion said we'll end up putting a significant portion our employees on these exchanges. we are already seeing in some cases where -- you hate to use the "r" word but that's what it is. rationing of care starting to come into play. with these exchanges you are not going to keep docket you are used to that you are comfortable. the public by the way always had this and got right. shannon: charles payne, thank you very much for break it down. brand-new developments out of syria as we learn of a high profile defection from the sea
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sawed government. the syrian prime minister defecting to jordan with his family. the white house calling it another sign the al-assad regime is crumbling from within. jordan asking for international help dealing with thousands of refugees crossing the border. some estimate as many as 200,000 syrians have fled from that fighting. hi, dominic. >> reporter: this was the highest ranking defector we have seen in the syrian regime since the uprising began back in march of 2011. riad hijab had been the prime minister two months it's a blow to the assad regime because he took with him three top officials and cabinet ministers. he's on his way to qatar.
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so far a spokesman for riad said he has joined the ranks of the freedom and dignity revolution saying he was a soldier in this blessed revolution. another target or blow really to the regime today was an attack on the state tv headquarters. they took out offices there. only three people injured apparently. many people lucky to escape alive. just last week the broadcasters put out a message to its viewers saying if in the future you hear any announcement saying there has been a coup or regime change in syria please ignore it. clearly president assad's government worried it would be targeted. the fighting continues in aleppo. we understand rebel forces are on the back foot at the moment.
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the government has increased its attack on the center even though rebels did have hand-to-hand with heavy weapons last week. the helicopters and jet fighters are moving too much for them. shannon: republicans pouncing on a pu report that a member of president obama's inner circle took $100,000 in speaking fees from a company tied to iran. reports say david plouffe gave a pair of speeches to a subsidiary of a telecom company two months before he joined the white house staff. that company was doing business with iran at the time. he calls republican criticism misplaced. steering numbers on illinois' pension problem as governor quinn released a study showing
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by 2016 the state will be spending more on pensions than education. the state faces $83 billion in unfunded liability. that liability increases more than $12.5 million a day and that cash may come from property taxes. the governor called for a special session on pension reform. a lawmaker decried a democratic-led bill. >> again, total power in one person's hand. not the american way. come out here. how ashamed of them you should be. you should be ashamed of yourselves. i'm sick of it. every year, we give power to one
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person it was not made that way in the constitution. he was around with it was written. now we bash rules. enough! i feel like somebody saying let me people go. shannon: obviously very frustrated. elizabeth mcdonald with the fox business network is live with there is story. the outlook not sounding so good. >> reporter: what we are seeing is there is no comprehensive plan in illinois to reform its government pensions. already illinois sets aside 15% of its annual budget just for pensions. its spending as you pointed out, more than $12.5 million a day going toward pensions. remember last year the state of illinois raised its personal income taxes by 67%.
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100% of those tax hikes went to pay for the state's government pensions. the elected officials were deeply embroiled in the fight between the governor and state legislature. the governor wants to remove the pension funding away from the states and put it toward the school district. the state legislators are against that because they are afraid property taxes will have to go up. but here is the issue. the governor is saying not just education which he is deeply concerned that spending on government pensions in illinois will surpass spending on education. he's also worried government spending on pensions will surpass healthcare and public safety. so the special session on august 17 will try to bring both sides together to hammer out a deal to close the gap. illinois ranks worst in the country when it comes to unfunded pension plans. shannon: the governor said illinois cannot continue down this path at the expense of our
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children. you mentioned the upcoming event they will have trying to get something worked out. are there real hopes they will be able to find common ground? >> the sense is it will be a slow grind. the deal they hammered out only covers a third of the gap. it says you have got to pay more towards your pensions. but get cutbacks in what we cover for your healthcare. already there is evening abuses rampant through the illinois as with many states in the country. people retiring early at age 55 and getting nearly full pay in retirement. so shannon whether the governor can bring both sides to the table remains to be seen given the outrage of that state legislator, the video we just showed. back to you, shannon. shannon: thank you so much. we are following new developments in the showdown with iran. an israeli newspaper reporting details how a possible strike
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against the nation. am bass for bolton stan what they could mean for the u.s.-israeli relationship. police say a man faked his own death, leaving his wallet and clothes on the beach. his alleged elaborate plan to steal from his unsuspecting wife and why she does want to press charges even though she says she is in fear for her life. >> what ticks me off here is the argument obama administration is make is arbitrary and without justification to treat the military differently. correct me if i'm wrong. i don't see ieds or snipers shooting at our polling places. hey! did you know that honey nut cheerios
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shannon: the fire risk very high in oklahoma after triple digit temperatures. rain and cooler weather helping slow the flames near manford. that fire scorching 90 square miles. it's the biggest of 18 wildfires burning act state that destroyed dozens of homes. folks shocked to return home and see what is left. the causes of the various fires has not yet been determined but one is being investigated as a possible arson. an israeli newspaper look at a look for u.s. military plans for a possible strike on iran. the report says it would begin with take out iran's air develops. then it would be followed by bunker-busting bombs to take out
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iran's nuclear site. but israeli leaders may not be convinced the u.s. will be ready to act. benjamin netanyahu told his opposition leader, america will never attack iran, never. welcome to you both. >> hi, shannon. shannon: what do you make of these reports? it sounds like a lot of detailed information. is it possible the u.s. would be imagining an attack? >> in the military you plan for everything no matter how unlikely it may be. and our military would be derelict if it wasn't planning seriously. the details in the israeli paper are just common sense. a lieutenant could say they are going to use cruise missiles and air defense. that's kind of baby talk.
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but iran which is fascinating is really a tough nut to crack militarily. it would and serious effort and iran has been using the last two decades to structure its forces very specifically to do three things. to use terrorism strategically globally, to strike israel regionally with missiles and locally to close the straits of hormuz and cut off the supply of oil and embarrass the united states. everything the iranian military has done over 20 years has focused exclusively on those three things. our military has to do everything globally so we haven't prepared specifically for these deep bunker threats. we have bunker buster bombs but there is still a question about how good we would be take out the deep establishments. shannon: ambassador goal bolton
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i want to ask about specific details. who would be leaking information to this paper and i want to get your response to their quote to benjamin netanyahu that america will not attack iran never. also in his second term obama will care less about us than he cares now. they are attributing that to israel's prime minister. >> let's take the second question first. the israelis don't doubt the youth has lots of plans to deal with the iranian nuclear weapons program, and there is no doubt that we have got the capability ultimately. the real fear that israel has is under the obama administration in particular the political will to take that action is simply not there. and that's why the spotlight is on israel because if iran is in fact getting close to its long sought objective of deliverable nuclear weapons and if the obama administration in the second term doesn't plan to act, then
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israel has to worry about it. where the details in that newspaper story came from, you know, ralph peters is exactly right. you could easily speculate about that kind of plan. it could have been leaked out of the israeli government. it could have come from our government. there are a lot of potential source if in fact it's a leak. shannon: col nil want to ask you about a little bit of an arms race heating up between israel and iran. iran says it has a short-range missile with more accuracy and israel is saying it upgrade its defense system and they are ready. what do you make of the back and forth. is it more bluster or is it escalating. >>it is escalating to certain degrees. but let me say in aagreement with ambassador bolton. i think the obama administration
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has looked at iranian nukes as containment. they have written israel off. this latest test is bluster. it's short-range that could never reach israel. it's a 250 kilometer range about it could be useful against stat you can targets. oil resources in the persian gulf. u.s. ships if they were docked in bahrain. there is a philosophical difference between the way is rail and the united states approach this and the way the iranians approach this. they go for swarm attacks, attack patrol boats against our ships. where we try to focus on quality. now, we'll see who wins in the end but i will say this, i think the israeli antimissile defenses are formidable. they are struggling to survive. shannon: we have to leave it
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there. thank you both for lening us your insight and expertise. a veteran immigration and customs enforcement officer arresting an illegal immigrant with a string of traffic violations. but they were told to let him go. that officer is fighting suspension for fighting back. [ male announcer ] research suggests the health of our cells plays a key role
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killed 185 people. hundreds of people turned up to watch the building come down sunday. it's one of 1,400 building that were seriously damaged. a jewelry store owner took action against thieves who tried to rob her store. >> reporter: you talk about a bold robbery. this happened at 5:30 last flight. they back up their suv in front of this jewelry store. two guys get out with guns. ers have pillow case. the guys with pillowcases start asking for money. they go through the store. little did they know the store owner the 65-year-old was packing heat. she fired two shots at these guys. they could not get out of the store fast enough. here are the police. listen. >> she held her life and the
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lives of the people in the store were in jeopardy. she took an action that maybe isn't the best course of action. but she took an action that she felt was appropriate to protect the people in the store. >> reporter: she is chasing them outside the store. they went out so fast two of the guys got in the surf and took off leaving three their accomplices behind. they had to swing back a couple blocks to pick them up. they are still on the run. none of them were hurt. earlier in the day there was a similar robbery in a different store in southern california and one of those robbers was shot by ther on as well in the face. now the cops are trying to figure out if those two robbies might be connected. but that is swift action on behalf granny. shannon: those guys look like the three stooges trying to get out of there. they are piling up. two of them take off. i'm sure the three who were left behind weren't feeling the
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friendship, weren't feeling the love until they came back and picked them up. >> reporter: mo and curly were not happy they got left behind. shannon: the obama reelection team is not backing down from a lawsuit that allows extra voting days for u.s. service members. is it a wise battle to wage? a fair and balanced debate. thousands of nascar fans caught offguard buy a fast-moving powerful storm. frightening details on what happened and why they never heard it coming. >> i didn't see nothing but a bang, a flash and people laying on the ground. there was ambulances coming. that girl ran over there. it was a mess. sweetie, you have to scrub it first.
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shannon: tragedy at a nascar event after lightning from a fast-moving storm kills one spectator at a race in pennsylvania, nine others also hurt. laura ingle's live from our newsroom with the latest. >> reporter: hi, shannon. the devastating lightning strikes happened as the fans were trying to seek cover in their cars, under tents and away from the grandstand in long pond, pennsylvania. stormy skies loomed large yesterday over the race track known as the tricky triangle which prompted the pennsylvania 400 to be called after 98 of 160 because of the incoming weather.
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an estimated 85,000 fans had to quickly find somewhere safe to go after public announcements were made for people to take shelter and evacuate the grandstand. the track also posted warnings of the storm. the president and ceo of poke know raceway saying the safety of all guests is of the utmost importance to the entire staff. here's part of his statement: >> reporter: the race fan who died after being struck by lightning has now been identified as 43-year-old pennsylvania resident brian zimmerman. track officials report the one individual that was in critical condition last night has now been upgraded to stable and that the other eight people injured have been receiving medical care. and witnesses have taken to social media to describe the chaos and offer solutions. one person tweeting today that
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track officials should use big caution lights about incoming storms both in the stands and out in the parking lot because it's so hard to hear warnings over the roar of the race cars and the fans at times. shannon? shannon: laura, thank you very much for the update. well, new video just in to the fox newsroom. president obama just moments ago signing a bipartisan legislative package aimed at helping america's veterans. the honoring america's veterans and caring for camp lejeune families act is going to provide veterans and their families all kinds of necessary benefits to help them along in their transitions. we're going to bring that to you in just a moment as soon as we can get it turned around for you. >> that i believe our military and the men and women in uniform have an absolute right to speak in this election. their lives are affected by what happens in policies here in this country and the direction of america. and in my view every effort should be taken by the government of the united states
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of america to assure that every member of the military has the right to vote and their vote is counted. shannon: governor romney reacting to news that the president's campaign has filed suit against an ohio law. the law allows early voting for servicemen and women up until the monday before the election. the rest of the public only has that early voting opportunity until the friday before. well, a half dozen military groups are going to court to block the suit. for their part the obama camp says it's not going after military voters. they say what they want is that the same rules be applied to everyone. >> frankly, governor romney has stated it is completely false. i think it's shameful that governor romney would hide behind our servicemen and women. shannon: a fair and balanced debate now, julian epstein and jay sekulow, chief counsel for the american center for law and justice. gentlemen, let me emphasize that word, it's great to have you
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both. >> there you go. thanks for having us. shannon: aye, i've got a copy of the lawsuit here, the original one filed by the obama campaign, and in the final paragraph you ask the court for what you want, they say they want us to restore three-person early voting for all eligible ohio voters. so that's not necessarily taking something away from the military folks, but it certainly sounds that way, at least when you hear the romney camp talk about it. >> well, first of all, the lawsuit asks for an injunction, and what the obama re-election committee's asking is the court to rewrite the law. here's the reality. the legislature -- and there's been an issue in ohio where there's been these long lines and problems, eight and twelve hours, people having to wait to vote, so they've streamlined the system, they've made it uniform by the states, and they gave three days' grace to the men and women that are serving in our military because they can be called up at any moment to go to another duty station not just
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overseas, but anywhere. and the fact of the matter is allowing the military men and women to vote until the day before is an appropriate response. and this idea that the obama re-election committee's not going after the military, of course they are. if they weren't, they'd let the law sit. the reason that they cut the friday off before for nonmilitary personnel is for administrative purposes. they still give them plenty of time to vote at early voting, they allow that in ohio, they encourage it in ohio. they're just giving the military a little bit more time to respond because of the unique situation of the military. they're not the same class of person as far as how they should be treated legally because the burden that's placed on our men and women in the military is not something that civilians not with military families they just don't experience. so to me, it's a clear cut case, the obama re-election committee made a huge mistake in suing, basically, to stop military getting that extra three-day period. i think it was a huge mistake tactically. shannon: i'm guessing julian doesn't agree, but whether or not they win on the legal
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challenge, all voters should be treated the same way, basically, don't create different classes of voters, but, julian, do they want the public perception of looking like they are trying to stop the military from voting in some way? are they ready to deal with potential backlash? >> they're not. and only the most extreme partisan is describing it that way. the fact of the matter is that the obama campaign -- i'm guessed mixed minus in my ear. the obama campaign does not want to stop that military, they're just simply saying everybody should be entitled to that. and the point that jay left out in his soliloquy, until 2008 all ohioans had the right to exercise early voting, in many-person right -- in-person right three days before the election, actually it goes back much further than that, but the question we're discussing here is that three-day period. so simply what the obama campaign is saying, look, there are military veterans that are discriminated against by the
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fact that you're only going to allow one class of people to vote. single moms and small business owners who have to work on that election tuesday who can't get to the polls. why not because the system worked well in 2008, why not extend that to everybody? and i think the reason -- >> because it didn't work in 2008. >> the demographics of this election, and the demographics of the voting age population, and they're saying the dem photographics are not headed in our direction, and they're looking at all kinds of mechanisms. this law, in-person voter id laws to try to suppress the vote. >> no, julian, this -- [inaudible conversations] shannon: jay, i want to ask you about the public policy while you're here though because do you think it's possible that key conservative voters, do you think it's possible there will be a backlash from conservatives in ohio or those who count themselves as military supporters, that they're going to be upset by the way they
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perceive this lawsuit, and it could end up costing the the campaign in that state? >> i think the re-election committee, i should be clear, has made a huge mistake. number one, to take issue, first, it's a large group of military associations. they're also intervene anything this case because they know what's at stake. there's a fundamental difference between a retired military veteran and someone who's on active duty. this was passed with wide bipartisan support in a state legislative process. and i think here's -- you hit it exactly correct, shannon. not only is it legally flawed for the obama re-election committee to say that this is arbitrary, capricious and unconstitutional, giving the military this three-day grace period, but what hurts them optically is it looks like a direct attack on those men and women currently serving because they're taking that way. >> with due respect -- >> 2008 in ohio was a problem for everybody, and that's why they've gone to the statewide correction process and
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legislative scheme they've put in place, to correct that. so, you know, you can't blame this on right-wing extremists or -- you can't. it's the reality -- [inaudible conversations] >> there's a big problem with jay's description of it. nobody -- jay's description is accurate only if you subscribe to a very, very partisan view. the obama campaign is in no way trying to restrict servicemen from voting during that three-day period of time. they encourage it, they want it. all they are saying is go back to the law as it was in 2008 that allows everybody to vote during that period of time. >> but that's not their call. that's not their decision. they're not the legislature of ohio. >> no, no, no -- shannon: julian -- [inaudible] piece of legislation that's been passed by dually-elected bodies? i think we've had that question recently in court. >> that's right. >> well, yeah, and i think that is a legitimate question for the court to look at a law that is passed by a republican legislature that doesn't seem to have -- i disagree with you, jay -- that doesn't seem to have a very strong rationale behind
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it, and the effect of it is going to be having tens, hundreds of thousands of people that may not be able to vote who use that three-day period to vote, and we know that 93,000 people in 2008 used that three-day period -- shannon: all right. we've got to leave it there. final word to julian. gentlemen, thank you both. >> commander in chief shouldn't be going after the military. thanks, shannon. shannon: we'll see what happens. >> they're not going after the military, they want everybody to to vote, and the republicans don't. shannon: good-bye! brand new into the newsroom, president obama making comments just a short time ago on the shooting in wisconsin. let's hear what he had to say today. >> well, first of all, you know, we're still awaiting the outcome of a full investigation. yesterday i had a chance to speak to both the governor and the mayor as well as leaders of the sikh community in oak creek.
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all of us are heart broken by what's happened, and i offered the thoughts and prayers not only of myself and michelle, but also of the country as a whole. i think all of us recognize that these kinds of terrible, tragic events are happening with too much regularity for us not to do some soul searching and to examine additional ways that we can reduce violence. and as i've already said, i think there are a lot of elements involved in it, and what i want to do is to bring together law enforcement, community leaders, faith leaders -- shannon: all right. some comments there from the president, his first reaction on camera to the shootings yesterday in wisconsin. new details on a story we first brought you last week, a veteran immigration and customs enforcement agent arrested with
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shannon: new reaction this hour to a story we first brought you last week. an immigration and customs enforcement agent under fire after he arrested an illegal immigrant with a string of traffic violations, but since the suspect was not considered a priority under the obama administration's new immigration policies, he was told he had to let the suspect go. the agent refused. he was fighting back. and now he is facing possible suspension. chris crane is the i.c.e. union president, he says his agents are coming under fire for simply trying to do their job. can you tell us anything more about this specific case that we're talking about? >> yes, shannon. basically, our officers were sitting on a vehicle, you know,
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conducting surveillance of a vehicle that was register today a criminal target. when someone came out to that vehicle and proceed today drive away, they detained the subject, questioned him, took him back to the office, ran fingerprints, found out that the individual did have an extensive, you know, bad driving background, i guess, if you will, ten violations, one being driving without a driver's license. and, you know, the officers made the determination that they would place the individual into immigration proceedings and let the immigration judge make that determination as to whether or not that individual would stay in the united states, and that is our role as law enforcement officers, to let the judges sort it out. shannon: and from what i understand, um, you mentioned the ten traffic violations including driving without a license. i mean, there were significant times this person had crossed paths with law enforcement before. july 19th this agent got a notice of proposed suspension that says he failed to file supervisory instructions and arrested somebody who was a nonpriority, basically, under this administration. you know, we've tried to talk to
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i.c.e. about this, they won't comment about a specific case, but they will say somebody can be suspended for refusing to obey directions. is that basically where this agent now finds himself? >> i guess so, shannon. but, you know, i think the bottom line is we can't forget as regardless of the policies that the administration has in place, the laws still stand on the books. and we have a sworn oath as law enforcement officers to enforce those laws. and that's what this officer was doing. and, you know, i think from our perspective the president of the united states, this administration, janet napolitano is asking, if not forcing, our officers to obey unlawful orders. and if we don't obey those unlawful order ors, we will lose our jobs. they'll take away our jobs, our abilities to provide for our families just because we're out there trying to do our jobs. shannon: has the administration given enough direction? are you saying you've got the direction, but what you're being asked to do is, you consider it's i violation of current law.
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does the directive, does the guidance from a cabinet member or the president, the white house not override those laws? are you guys stuck in between at this point? >> well, we're absolutely stuck in between. um, i can't necessarily the question about whether or not the president's executive orders or policies override law. i don't believe that they do. but we are absolutely caught in the middle of this struggle, and and, you know, i don't think anyone out there believes that this is anything other than election year politics. there's been no real effort to put out any real guidance or training on any of these policies, and i honestly don't think the people that ro wrote those policies even thoroughly understand the implications and impact that it has in the field for our officers as well as public safety. this is a big failure, and i think that the obama administration gets an f at least for implementation on these new policies. zahn san chris crane, we know a lot of the men and women you are
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representing are out there risking their lives every day, we thank you and them for hard work. a wife gets bad news, her husband had apparently drowned, but then she went digging and discovered a shocking secret. trace has that incredible story next. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ female announcer ] live the regular life. phillips'.
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shannon: a wife gets the news no one wants to hear, her husband had apparently drowned off the coast of long eye 4r57d, but then she went digging and found a shocking history. trace, it heats up here. >> reporter: oh, man. in the week before 47-year-old raymond roth went to jones beach off long island, he -- one, he increased his life insurance pretty dramatically, he changed his wife from being the executor of his will, and he got fired
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from his job. so he goes to jones beach with his 22-year-old stepson. a few hours later the son calls 911, he says my dad went into the water, he did not come out. the son also calls the stepmom and says i think dad just drowned. the wife starts preparing for his funeral, right? he's declared missing, but he's not dead. he's near disney in florida. even e-mailing his son, filling in the details of his plan. but guess what? then the wife finds all of the e-mails. listen. >> so i immediately called his family, they came over, i showed the e-mails to him. i proceeded to call the police with his brother, and we informed them that he is alive, and the shock started at that moment that he is alive. >> reporter: on top of that, now she thinks the husband is crazy and that he's trying to kill her, so she gets a restraining order against him. the stepson swears he was not in cahoots with the dad, says he
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never got all of the e-mails. dad didn't get picked up until he was coming back from florida to new york, and he got busted for speeding on i-95. the cop finally found out he was missing, took him into custody. now dad is back free and, get this, shannon, he's back in new york, and he wants to reconcile with the wife, and the wife's lawyer says she wants none of that. but, apparently, husband keeps e-mailing her like, you know -- shannon: maybe she's not getting his e-mails just like the son wasn't getting the e-mails. i don't know how people think they're going to get away with these schemes, but, oh, well. trace, thank you. >> reporter: sure. shannon: late breaking details on yesterday's deadly shooting, minutes away from a hospital news conference where we expect to learn more about the victims. that's next.
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