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children. >> greta: that is your last call. lights are blinking and thank you for being with us tonight. go to greta wire.com. there is something special for you there. jim angle there with a special question for you. good night from washington. greta wire.com. made. good and free publicity. "the five." here they are. >> dana: hello. i'm dana perino with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, eric bolling, greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> dana: yesterday we show you an ad by a pro-obama group that linked romney to closure of a plant and death of a woman. take a look. >> when bain closed the plant i lost my healthcare, my family lost their healthcare. short time after that, my wife became ill. i don't know how long she was sick.
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i think maybe she didn't say anything because she knew we couldp afford the insurance. she passed away in 22 days. >> dana: that ad was repudiated across the board. who said on this level this stretches the bounds of common sense and decency. over the past 24 hours, obama spokes people have been asked about the ad and been consistent in their answers. take a listen. >> i have not seen the ad. i refer you to cam pape or the organization. >> we have as much to do with the priority ads, as we do with michael phelps winning gold medals last week. >> this is an add by the entity, not controlled by the campaign. >> you know we don't have anything to do with priorities usa and by law we're not allowed to coordinate with them. by law we don't have anything to do with their adds. i don't know the facts of when joe's wife got sick or when she died, but as i said
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before, i know the facts of what romney did with g.s. steel and how joe lost his job, lost his healthcare. p >> dana: those are harder to swallow after conference call from a few months ago incovered today. >> after we lost our jobs we found out we were going to lose our health insurance and the pensions hadn't been funded like bain promisesed they would be. i was lucky to find another job as custodian in a local school district. they gave me some health insurance but i couldn't afford to buy for my wife. later she was diagnosed with lung cancer. if you look at what mitt romney did at places like g.s.t. steel you can tell he is only worried about one group of people. that is people like him. people at the top. you can't expect much more from someone who says he likes to fire people with no concern about the family really means. now i turn the call back to
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stephanie. >> thank you, joe. we appreciate you and david sharing your experiences. >> dana: moments like these you need telestrator. eric bolling tell us more. >> eric: yesterday was a new low water mark for obama campaign and supporters. after hearing this audiotape we reached another low in the obama campaign. take the full screen. they claim there is no coordination between priorities usa, white house and/or the campaign. check in out. jim messina raised money for priorities usa. so has axelrod, raised money for priorities usa and they both work on campaign 2008 and 2012. david plouffe who works in the white house, senior white house advisor raised money for priorities usa. bill burton runs priorities usa. he worked on the obama campaign. he worked in the obama white house. a deputy press character of the white house he may have been the press secretary of
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the campaign in 2008 as well. i don't know how the obama camp can there is no coordination. there is money coordination between the two. now you heard audiotape of mr. soptic who worked for the campaign in may of this year and also with priorities usa many this last ad. now time to man up, president obama and time to demons the priorities usa ad and make the american people have confidence in you and prove there is no coordination between your group, priorities usa. >> dana: great explanation. greg, when you first saw the audio, the conference call. you said this is a big deal. what struck you? >> greg: this is like guy with pit bull who attacks a kid and says that is not my fault. this is obama's it be pull. h --obama's pit bull. the fingerprints are all over this. like orson wellles saying his
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babysitter wrote "citizen kane." or george lucas saying, "star wars" was written by a wookie. this is what they do. congratulations, obama. you did build this! >> dana: yesterday you could see plausible deniable, especially working in the white house. but when you see the conference call, would you have had a sharp intake of breath if you saw this would blow up in your face? >> so much coordination between using someone in both places. let me say what you just drew there, i could take any of the mitt romney campaign independent expenditure committees and draw the same thing. they have people -- >> eric: i'm not sure you can. >> bob: at cross roads you can. >> eric: you can't. if you use karl rove or anyone
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at crossroads, mitt romney didn't, they didn't work together. romney does work for bush. >> bob: the largest group working on behalf of romney is the independent committee has shares, the guys who runs the thing, used to work on the romney campaign. there is a connection. we are naive if they're not coordinated at some level. >> dana: but they said they didn't know anything. if you were in a court of law and prosecuting a case, evidence today, what would you have done? >> kimberly: rest your case. what more proof do you need? not a egg on their face. it's an omelette. this is no credible. i get this is how politics are, we know. that but why would you deny
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it? that's so rookie and dumb when you know you have a call with a recording on there that may come out. >> eric: they have to deny it. coordination of the -- >> bob: i didn't get a chance to finish what i was going to say. can i continue? >> kimberly: leave it alone. don't tell another lie. >> bob: to be naive enough to think the independent committees do not coordinate in some level because people who contribute them contribute the campaign. but look at the tv to see what ad the campaign is running. you mimic it best you can. this is going to the essential. no question about it. if they stuck with the fact that romney put $500 million in debt on the company and that's why it went under, they would be better off than bring the lady in to it. we know romney was responsible for taking the company down in b abin. >> dana: we don't know that. >> bob: $500 million in debt.
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>> dana: it lasted another six years. plus, what came out of the substance of the ad was that the woman herself that passed away and suffered from cancer actually had health insurance herself at the same time. but the thing i think is amazing is bill burton said it would oversate the point to say soptic connected romney to his wife's death. that was the point. >> greg: bain wasn't working before. so they needed to do what the left -- >> bob: no, it wasn't. >> greg: it was. they use an anecdotal, one antedote of somebody's dying. not statistic or based on research. they want one story. when a liberal confronts a conservative, it's your a murder and killer. you caused my grandmother to die. that is the card.
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>> bob: let me ask you a card if it's not working. why is it that romney has ten points higher negative than positive and obama has ten points higher positive than negative? >> greg: romney has a lot to do to build up his positive. they don't know him well enough. that will change. nothing to do with bain. >> eric: harry reid find it okay to accuse romney not paying taxes. people like stephanie cutter call romney a felon without any proof. an they put up an ad tying cancer death seven years after romney left the company. >> bob: you are faced with these things every day. you have to figure out how to respond or not respond to them. we're still talking about the ad today. another day they are not talking about jobs. >> dana: great segue. thank you. john sonunu on hannity last
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night talked about what should the romney campaign do in situations like this. >> we should focus completely on the jobs and on the terrible economy we have had for the three-and-a-half year years. with a do-nothing president -- he will be the only president that never had a budget passed in the tenure in modern times. we should focus on the issue. he is losing by having the discourse point out how dishonest he is. having the president understand this president is desperate and will do anything. that he has no civility and no ethics in campaigning. >> bob: amazing thing coming from you. but that's okay. john is a tough politician. he is out there doing his hatchet job. every campaign has got one. he does a good job.
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i can pick other people two are effective. >> greg: why can't romney before we talk about jobs stuff demand president obama show proof he knew nothing about it? perhaps he is hiding something. he's hiding something. >> bob: because you'd say, wait a minute, you prove that the independent campaigns are not doing it. >> eric: why isn't romney saying anything about this? >> dana: you can make a calculation they have overreached so badly on the obama side, they will wait and let vice presidential stuff build up. let the convention get through and see. chris christie can't go out because he's governor. >> eric: he is e-->> e-- >> bob: he is an effective
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attacker. >> dana: i agree. coming up we talk winning the women voters. sandra fluke joined obama on the campaign trail. we'll show you how that went when we come back. ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ >> greg: i don't know what that song was all right. sandra fluke introduced president obama at campaign stop in colorado. she has been a left wing poster child since demanding free birth control pills from cath institution. never mind the pills are cheaper than basic cell phone bill. in the limelight again she begs comparison to me someone who is so much unlike her, it's scary. rachel, the chick-fil-a employee harassed by the chucklehead adam smith. for starters, one makes a living demanding something. the other earns her way offering something. one condemns opponents and per
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vay yours of discrimination. the other forgives those who abuse her. one gets a free ride from the liberal press. one will be ignored by the same. one will likely get a job by the media. the other one knows real work. that's it really. i bet sandra think what is she does is important. rachel by comparison seems less heroic. she has never been invited to speak before congressional committee. rachel holds down a real job. no time at all for greeting the president. rache is nothing like scran. the media has no idea who she is. rache is the country's life blood. february they aren't on obama's speed dial. rachel was on with stuart varney yesterday.
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>> let's play that. >> i think he realizes how bad it was to make that tape. i feel sorry for him and his family and everything that happened to him since wednesday. chick-fil-a is about treating people with honor, dignity and respect. i don't know if i'm a hero. just service worker doing my job. >> greg: she is not only sweet, she is huge. see the comparison to the building in the back? compare her to fluke. >> romney is offering dangerous promises to take us backwards. i have to take him at his wort. because he says on day one he is going to kill obama care dead. >> the decision that affects a
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woman's health, not politicia politicians. they are not up to insurance companies. they are up to you. >> you deserve a president who will fight to keep it that way. >> greg: kimberly, if you put the women side-by-side to see how much president obama loves sandra fluke. what does it say? one is the backbone of america and the other wants something from america. >> kimberly: one is a political opportunist, out to make a name for herself to profit from him. i hope she is happy. i think it look like it was contrived, artificial person. not authentic compared to rachel who is what we stand for. working hard, working her way up. a great spokesperson.
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>> greg: said she would meet with the don't head that bothered her. >> dana: we could learn a lot from her. forgiveness in her heart, which admire a lot. do you remember when obama called sandra fluke. that was a big deal. called her and felt bad. now on the trail with him. it would have been really senator if he called rachel. if he would have called rachel and said i'm sorry that happened to you, i appreciate all you're doing. that would have been great. it would have been better -- a good thing to do, great p.r. >> kimberly: thank goodness you're not advising him. >> greg: but until rachel becomes a community organizer interested in raising awareness, obama is nev going to know her. >> eric: he has no interest in her. i'm glad you didn't play a sound bite along that he has his moment.
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one of them is backbone of america. the fact she is on tv is -- >> greg: don't offer that. all for that. are we returning to the war on women theme? romney is going to take away our pills. >> bob: first, i think that rachel is very, very good media person. she came across as humble. a decent person. having said that, in defense of fluke, she was called a slut by rush limbaugh. now c'mon. that is about as lousy -- >> dana: she got an apology. >> bob: but that is different. the other girl was not called a name. >> greg: she was abused. >> bob: if you put women's
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productive right against chick-fil-a -- >> greg: when a jerk goes to a woman's work to abuse her -- he does it in the name of an issue. >> bob: one guy with 20 million people in his audience -- >> dana: the other tried to get 20 million. >> this is not about women's rights here. it's paying for contraceptives. not whether or not women have access to it. but who would pay for it. running around twitter and the internet that says my body, my mind, your money. >> bob: sandra fluke was abused by conservatives -- >> kimberly: she is a political shell. the whole thing was manufacturered. >> greg: the president is expecting things from you. her road ispayed with activism. >> dana: georgetown cocktail circuit. >> bob: is she a lawyer?
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>> greg: coming up, will you pay more pizza because of obamacare? that is what someone is saying. we'll tell you that next. if you leave now, you get nothing but crust. ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ >> eric: welcome back, everybody. welcome to "c" block entitled "sociallism sucks." the first example obamacare is driving the price of everything higher. not just healthcare, obamacare is driving the price of your pizza through the roof. president obama's social healthcare plan is making his dough cost him more dough and guess who gets -- who ends up
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eating the extra dough? you and me and kimberly, as the resident food expert. we don't want pizza going higher? >> kimberly: i love pizza. it's going to eat this. race between bob and i will who will get it. this is a practical access to show this is what happens with healthcare. there are repercussions. >> bob: can you explain why it's going up? >> eric: papa john says every pizza is costing 11 to 14 -- >> bob: the reason? >> eric: healthcare costs. >> bob: you said dough. >> eric: how does it turn to pizza prices going higher? he eats the cost of healthcare on his own?
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>> bob: they are talking to shareholders. >> dana: he has an obligation to tell them what he knows. >> eric: you have no idea how important what you just said is. he wouldn't make it up to be id logically. you can't say that. >> bob: ideologically he has -- >> eric: he may -- dana points out he would never do it on a conference call. >> bob: he is a businessman and has an obligation to make money for shareholders who count on him. he has a right to -- >> greg: papa john has an obama pie. a stranger walks in and throws it away. then you apply for universal
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pizza care. a preexisting hunger for pepperoni. the government should pay for it. >> eric: three months ago, french elected a socialist president. admitted socialists beat out nicolas sarkozy. now he promised 75% tax bracket to make beg the question, shall i grace the americans with my france? you point something out that is important. 75%. freddie you hate the french, bob. it's because of the taxation they will come here. >> eric: if you work and earn a pizza, you give the government that much of the pizza. you let bob and kimberly have a slice. >> kimberly: want to race? >> greg: i am half french. >> eric: you are? >> greg: yes. i used to walk around with
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large loaf of -- >> greg: you wore a beret on this show once. i lived with mimes. >> eric: that is france. here is america. tax breaks. >> dana: i'll pass. this is an interesting thing. they are not getting any reforms in exchange for getting, getting the pleasure of giving 75% of the income back to the government. if you retire at 60. you have can't work over 40 hours. they put the restrictions on so that the very few people that riz on the the top get this. i wouldn't blame them for leaving. it's hard to be serious with you guys -- >> eric: aren't we becoming
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france? >> bob: you throw the word socialist around. i'll get you book to explain this is nowhere near -- >> greg: "dreams of my father." >> bob: the way you throw "socialism" around. >> dana: shouldn't france do everything they can to make sure they stay in france? >> bob: they have enormous benefits over there. let them pay 75%. >> greg: they will be sorry. obama is only going as far as we allow him to go. >> greg: do you co know what is happening in greece, the use of cars declined 40 to 50%. they are now riding bicycles. >> dana: environmentalists
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love that. it helps, they think, decrease -- >> eric: we have to go. controversy caused high drama in last night's london olympi olympics. >> they are talking about firing an inquiry. >> eric: was gymnast robbeded of the medal by the judges? we have that answer for you. also, hillary clinton busted a move on the dance floor. we have that. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] if you had a dollar for every dollar car insurance companies say they'll save yoby switching, you'd have like, a ton of dollars. but how are they saving you those dollars? a lot of companies might answer "um" or, "no comment." then there's esurance.
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now back to "the five" down the hall. ♪ ♪
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>> kimberly: well comeback to "the five." journey of the u.s. women's gymnastic team brought us tears and no shortage of thrilling moments. gymnast ally competed in the final of the individual balance beam but the drama came after she received her score. take a look. >> olympic gold all-around in 2004. >> oh, no. oh. >> just missed it. >> they're going crazy. definitely they are talking about filing an inquiry. there is a time limit. >> remember the difference between ally and third place is .1. the score changed.
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the score has been changed up to 6.3. yes! >> kimberly: sometimes you got to complain. wipe are you booing? >> greg: i was kidding. i wasn't. that woman has more class than the ioc for saluting the victims of the massacre. the ioc should get a gold and cowardess. she should be v.p. candidate but she might be too young. >> eric: there is a lesson here. the coach was ready to accept fourth place. no medal. he was hugging her. bela coroli and his wife were screaming in the stands saying don't give up. she listened and ended up with a browse medal. never quit. >> greg: complain a lot.
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a challenge likesomeone that. but if you ask for the inquiry and it ruled in you favor you don't pay the money. >> bob: first, if you want someone to complain. take greg. one thing that bothered me. controversy over controversy over the years. when you run a race you win it by time. you know who wins. swimming you do. gymnastics and diving where you have judges making determination about these things. they should allow no judges from any country that has a competitor in the finals. there was one here. this has happened before. they should not have any -- first, they ought to have completely independent judges. i couldn't agree with you more. ioc, in their face, good for her for doing that. >> dana: they could have frank lupt go over and there would be no judges. you could see how the
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people -- kilthe red. >> bob: i want an accurate account. >> kimberly: you want an ouch moment take a look at this. baby. >> german weight lifters, defending champion of the men's super heavy weight class, attempted to lift 196-kilos. that is 432 pounds. watch what happens. he loses his balance and the bar comes crashing down on the back of his neck. >> kimberly: so painful to watch. we talked about this, this morning. really, when you think about it. >> greg: oh, you know i was a competitive lifter for many years. i got out of the business because of this. now i only lift natural weights, human bodies. it's much safer. i volunteer. >> bob: you know, sometimes i wonder about these this.
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look at the weight he is picking up. why they don't have spotters in the olympics and they do in college. >> dana: what could anyone have done? >> bob: they could have thought that. deflected it. if that had happened to us, we'd be gone. >> kimberly: he suffered ligament and muscle injuries but no damage to his spine. show hillary busting a move. >> eric: absolutely. >> kimberly: where is hillary? >> eric: coming. ♪ ♪ >> kimberly: so this is hillary. busting a move. i love a lady that can dance. she could show me a move or two. this happened on the dance floor in south africa. they know how to party. let me tell you. having a great time. why couldn't she be president,
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bob? >> bob: if you want to see great dancing get in a cab and see kimberly dancing around in the cab. i saw you the other day. i couldn't believe it. >> eric: believe it or not, dana and greg promised to dance our way out of the segment with the music. >> greg: you are right. >> dana: greg is being mean today. >> greg: i'm not going yet. >> kimberly: coming up -- >> greg: i have something to say about this. >> kimberly: i'm coming up next. please go. coming up, take a look back at -- >> kimberly: this is me. >> bob: don't go anywhere. be right back or i'll turn my hamsters loose on you or whatever. ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ >> bob: all right, all this week, featuring great american champions from the past olympics. on monday we talked about 1936 track legend jesse owens. today the man who matched to weapons' four gold medals in a single olympics in 1984, carl lewis. ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ ♪ >> bob: lewis won nine gold medals and one silver. if thing i'll say first of all, anyone can go over four olympics, 16 years and be competitive and win a gold medal in all of them is a remarkable athlete. what do you think? >> eric: i agree. we are in a day and age you can't do that anymore. olympics do one or two games. >> dana: the guy yesterday with us 54 and won in the equestrian thing. >> greg: what is the big deal? four olympics. you do four things over 16 years. that is not really work
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people. >> kimberly: you're jealous. >> greg: i'm impressed with the fact he made cameos in the tv series "perfect strangers." that's what hpens when you become an athlete and you can't do anything elseium. play yourself in really bad sitcoms michigan advice to all of you guys like phelps, don't do that. get in real estate. buy a car dealership. >> bob: there's an idea. a really good suggestion. >> dana: it will come back. >> bob: in 1980 i was in the white house, president carter did not let us go to moscow. he was going to compete there. >> dana: that would have been fascinating discussion in roosevelt room. >> bob: unbelievable. the roosevelt room not oval office but huge neighbor the middle. i was standing up pounding the back of the chair. the president wasn't in the room. saying of course we got to go. what are you kidding me? some nonathlete across, some pollty person "oh, no, we can't do that."
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>> eric: probably going who is the guy in the back. get him out of there. >> bob: that was a controversial decision. but carl lewis could have been in five olympics. nobody does that. >> greg: it was also drafted by the chicago bulls which is a fine baseball team. and the dallas cowboys in 19 # 4, which i think is hockey. >> bob: it is hockey. >> greg: he never played in either. >> bob: do you give advice on sports? the advisor? >> greg: i'm the personal trainer. >> bob: okay. we'll let that go. >> dana: the nicest thing you said all day. >> bob: carl lewis got in to politics and he was going to run for state senate seat in new jersey. he was not allowed to do it -- as a democrat. but he wasn't allowed to do it because of what do owe call it? the residency requirements. a great spokesman. all the way around. do you notice people who win the gold medals come out to become great spokes people?
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>> kimberly: have you noticed that one more thing is next? ♪ ♪
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>> dana: time now for one more thing. eric? >> eric: okay. we're in the olympic mode, right? my dog freedom is clearly the gold medalist. jasper would be the silver medal it. no dog in world this good boy right here behind me. would be the bronze. my gosh, is he adorable? he swims with dolphins. >> dana: wow! >> greg: you must love this. you can't see it.
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>> bob: that s that a seal or dog? >> eric: the dog is swimming with the dolphins. >> greg: why is your dog named freedom? >> kimberly: what do you think? >> dana: you are being -- >> kimberly: what is wrong with you? why wasn't bella winning the bronze? >> eric: i didn't know you had a dog. >> kimberly: i have a chimpanzee for you. believed to the sign language, signaling for someone to let him out of his enclosure. very cute. >> you want us to lift the window open? >> kimberly: let me out of this joint! >> greg: that is not cute. that is sad! how can you say that is cute? that is the saddest thing i've ever seen. get me out of this hell hole. >> kimberly: are you going
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to focus your energy on i'm the worst person. >> bob: that looked like my wife trying to keep me out of the house when i come home. >> kimberly: my gosh. >> bob: i used to point to the window. >> eric: which one is your wife? >> dana: all right. >> bob: bere. >> greg: my horoscope for today, everyone is singing your praises at the moment. but you don't seem to have much confidence in yourself. however, now that you are ruling mercury moves toward you, you will rediscover your self-belief. dana perino kill adrifter in 1984. >> dana: statute of limitations. this is on twitter. there is a parity about president obama. take a listen to this. ♪ ♪ ♪ keep the president away from you and you when you were
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younger ♪ ♪ it's not that you didn't do ♪ ♪ but mr. obama that i used to know ♪ >> dana: a parody about obama. go to youtube to check it out. >> bob: my one more thing, look, i'm off tomorrow. that makes me happy and conservatives happy. i need a break because lately on the show, probably doesn't surprise you, but my mouth is moving too much. sometimes dumb things, surprising for a mensa guy, comes out of it. last night i was checking twitter and i saw some people out there were offended by something i said. i'm not going to say it again. but i want to say those who were offended i'm very sorry. that is the last you'll hear that. i'll be quiet now. been a pleasure. see you friday. >> dana: anyone have any last words? redeem yourself at all? >> greg: n

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