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pipe sticks, dana perino. it's 5:00 somewhere. ♪ >> greg: so chuck todd, a guy so adorable he has two first names doesn't believe there is liberal bias in the media. i can only respond by saying i don't believe there is a chuck todd. he explains why righties don't do talk shows. >> i think that the mythology of the big bad, nonconservative media has gotten in to some offices and so that there is the sphere of we can't do anything -- it's -- i feel like this is a mythology that now younger staffers believe. it infuses them in the guys. they believe the spin that is out there. oh, my god, that is what the main stream media does. they do anything to disrupt the conservative agenda. mythology of the media out to get conservatives is believed among more and more actual staffers. >> greg: nice goatee.
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denying the media bias at this point is like denying sipe. you're worth than a flat earther. you are a no earther. if you don't believe in media bias what doles you believe in? bill maher is edgy? you'd have to deny studding of practices of libera journalnist. and the scandals where the journalists conspire to smear righties. journalistic whistle blowing is always left on right a never reverse, see benghazi as opposed to plame. the threesome that occurring if a left lefty to shows up on 0 minutes." if you believe in that you believe in anything, whistle is better than a gun. black conservatives are uncle tom and female conservatives are scold. tolerance requires calling terror workplace violence. the tea party is more harmful
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than drug lords. occupy wall streeters were cuddly muffins. choice matterrers before birth, not after. a border is selfish. every tenet of the left saddled young miles per hours with toxic notion of entitl entitlement without achiever. the quote from palmolive, "you don't see it, my dear, because you're soaking in it." anybody born in our era will known who madge is. she is great. rest in peace. not sure she is dead. but assuming. he calls this mythology that the mainstream media is hostile to conservatives. you are on the other side but you must agree. >> bob: i must agree? >> greg: with me. >> bob: i'm not sure -- i'm lost in what the main stream media is. as far as i can tell, it's
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everything but fox. >> greg: yes. boston that right? >> dana: national review. >> eric: talk radio. >> bob: the television business or cable. this network. so cnn, msnbc is main stream media. so we are on an iland to ourselves. do i think people should come on here, more liberals come on here? i have been fighting for. that i think it's a good wide audience. is there a bias op some of the people and some show? sure. is there on the other side? absolutely. you can't go to msnbc and listen to that and not say there is some bias on the other side. >> greg: some? he is say nothing one will do the shows where they feel like they are under attack. do you buy that? >> eric: i do. former hill press secretary why go on a show that could be hostile to your boss or take the footal to end up in a campaign ad against your boss.
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a lot of people aren't watching the networks. if you are a republican member you are probably from republican district. your constituents aren't watching msnbc. why put your person you work for in that situation. if you are a member of congress, why do it? i agree. it's not a mythology. there is a bias there. so they don't the more liberal shows. >> greg: do you think someone in the media could be liberal? and keep the bias from the secular shows? >> dana: i do. >> greg: i'm not talking to you anymore. >> dana: i thought reporters in the press room tried hard to be fair. maybe because it's republican administration and they got information from us directly. it found the bias in other places but not necessarily in the white house briefing room. >> dana: k.g. what do you think? >> kimberly: positive. obama enjoyed one of the
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charming romantic presidencies of all time. highly managed. they don't put him in front of an interview for sure that anyone can ask a follow-up question or probing question or something that sounds in any way critical. the main stream media bias is real. it's prevalent. i don't know what chuck todd is talking about. he knows he doesn't know what he is talking about that. makes no sense what he said. >> dana: they should do their job, do it well and let the chips fall where they may. when gallup does their poll of who do you trust, inty tutions in they take the president's up with. congress is low. television, news media, not just television in the 20s. like 20%. i don't know who he is trying to convince. >> dana: this polarization taking place in the media. you watch what you want to hear. same with blogs and place option the internet. i'm not so sure that you are
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right, the reporters to try. for the most part. you can't indict everybody because of candy crowley or what his name? gregory. they are all not like that. keep in mind a lot of them did go to columbia school of journalism. are they more liberal? of course they are. i don't know if right ought to get more people in journalism schools, i don't know. >> andrea: i'm surprised chuck todd made that comment after nbc was accused of editing a video. it was weird. obvious they did it. for him to say that shortly after doesn't make sense. on the heels of the president's "state of the union" speech, chuck todd that came out and said i think that the minimum wage with the president is prosing is a good idea -- proposing is a good idea. here is why. that is what we do. not what he does. he reports the facts. if he is on the other side. >> dana: it has more ofed. we need to realize that if you work in the business, it's like okay, you know where he
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is going to come from. you don't always know. that you don't always know where it will come from, but he is good on policy. it understands it well. the media loves to put itself on the couch an self-analyze and grandize of course. you know, they have to give -- they give themselves more award ceremonies than hollywood does. >> greg: true. i want to talk about the reporters have that have been complaining about access to the president. others, the idea they are scared to get in the face of the president for fear it will hurt their chances more. this is jay carney, defending press access or lack thereof. >> i'm sympathetic of the difficulties of the job, covering any white house apt desire for more and more access. we work every day with you and
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others to provide that. >> greg: here is my thing. the media has been liberal. by far. i think president obama knows this. is there a feeling of disrespect toward the media because they know he is pushover? >> kimberly: isn't that interesting? i just think he is used to getting his way, getting the favorable coverage. they like him. they genuinely like him. his presidency and his beliefs. it matches their ideology. >> dana: in the instance there are questions taken you can see the reporter say, okay, sir, i almost apologize for asking you this question. please don't embarrass me in front of the world because i'm going to ask you about a stimulus question. >> bob: they take journalists and put them on panels, -- you are asked a
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question and it's political question. yes or no. you disclose your bias. you set yourself up to expose yourself as you were. >> greg: i do often. andrea, al-jazeera making the u.s. expansion. i'm excited. i would switch over to al-jazeera when i get tired of msnbc anti-americanism. is this good for al-jazeera? >> andrea: it's bias. i don't think it's great for a cable network that carries them. i don't through is a huge mar gyp. >> go back to your question whether or not the president goes around the media around. he does. after jay carney said those remarks we have given 541 interviews. to whom? "the view," pimp with the limp. people magazine. entertainment tonight. he has cut off access to the press. the press is open about that.
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he doesn't need them anymore. he whined and dined them and dumped them. now he goes to local media. >> bob: those are outlets available to them. anybody in the business to promote the president uses the best outfit they can get. >> kimberly: that is their job. not going put them up for an interview that you think is a tough one, like on the network he will get question about the economy, the staff and figur figures. math, what are you doing about it? why would he? he wants to look good. >> greg: chuck todd was reflecting -- projecting what obama was saying. obama wasn't doing this for fear of attacked. i think we solved something here. >> you are just like freud. >> greg: we have to take a break. important advice from vice president joe biden. >> if you want to protect yourself, get a double-barrel shotgun. buy a shotgun.
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♪ ♪ >> andrea: well, detroit is on the vernal of financial collapse. state review board just declared an emergency. the detroit's current budget deficit topped $326 million. but the city's long-term liability more than $14 billion may be the larger problem. one detroit lawmaker wants american taxpayers to bail out the city. >> after the election of jimmy carter, he went to washington, d.c., he came back home with bacon. that is what you do. that's what you do.
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our people overwhelming support the re-election of the president. quid pro quo. >> andrea: quid pro quo as if there was any doubt that detroit might support president obama. >> dana: detroit isn't going down the tubes. it is already there. anything that going down the tubes coming out in detroit. democratic leadership. so much for the dictatorship of the prolotarian. it can't just be the auto industry. look at chicago and baltimore. you can't say it's just the union. >> andrea: and it's unfunded liabilities, bob. what are they going to do now? talk about bringing in an emergency manager. the same woman we played for you when we heard they might bring in an emergency manager to manage the finances, she
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said this takeover would be a right wing agenda that is antiunion and antiblack. why does it go back to race? can't they admit they haven't managed the finances kel and now they are in a heap of trouble? >> this is not the first city, that has been taken over by a state. you are probably too young to remember this. good for you but not for me i remember gerald ford said about new york when they new york asked for help and the headline said ford to new york, drop dead. there are number of cities for the bail-out. unfunded mandates they've got are a lot of retirement contracts that are still up in the city. this is a population over 50%. no one left in the city. poor people. the auto industry is not just in trait. it's spread throughout the midwest. >> dana: people below poverty is 26%.
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the schools that took over the schools, this could have been a big, technology renaissance place, they could have retooled themselves so to speak. they need to shrink the size of the city and figure out what is sustainable and what is manageable in the current global come pettive climate. >> andrea: what is scary when cities face this, there is less money for cops and firefighters, we saw governor kasich in ohio, they have the nuance tax. but the good news they can't borrow more money. the bad news is they can't borrow any more money. what does a city do? they are in an untenable position. obama didn't want to take on the unions and the other
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groups asked to take cuts. they have to declare a bankruptcy. do something like that. restructure their debt. do cuts across the board. remark mentions. nobody is going to want to do, thatmen a strong union city. that is the problem. also, there isn't really any major attraction to bring outside industry there because of the crumbling infrastructure. >> andrea: what about the administration, bob, as well? they have championed detroit. we bailed them out before. we're not going to help them again. >> bob: this may be the first city where we see the first test of the long-term unfunded map dates where a court, not politicians but a court says the city cannot pay this. i think this will be the first of many. if those who are expecting to have the retirement will find out that judge will rule, bankruptcy rule this cannot be paid.
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therefore you are going to cut you back to 80%. >> dana: you know who suffer from that is the younger workers. the pension they had before, the retirement packages are not available to younger workers. they will have to pay more in the previous generations retirement packages. they are squeezed again. generation in their 20s is the one that i think about a lot. because they're under a lot of stress. >> eric: there is not many place -- bloc is not many places anymore. most cities are cognizant before they give you long-term retirement benefit. my guess is that of the past. >> andrea: what about city like new york you can't break the pensions. it's in the constitution, you can't break them. greg, you are from california. they have seen a bunch of
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cities with bankruptcy. freddie some cities were amazing. they were gems. if you take amtrak or chicago or detroit, every sinking city there is a liberal democratic mayor holding its head under water. >> bob: that is not -- >> kimberly: waterboarding? a lot of jobs -- >> bob: a lot of the jobs move south. this is demographic shifts. >> dana: car manufacturers can be profitable in other states. they didn't have to be in michigan anymore. >> kimberly: they want to be profitable.
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they get a tax haven. freddie they should make detroit the capital of france. >> kimberly: okay. >> greg: because it fit perfectly. >> andrea: i'm not seeing it. >> greg: they're both in the same place. >> andrea: coming up, more ridiculous advice from the left in an attempt to disarm them america. so wait until what you hear what came out of the mouth of another colorado lawmaker. that is up next op "the five." ♪ ♪
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♪ >> kimberly: well, it must be the altitude in colorado. another brilliant democrat caught op tape trying to convince women there are other ways to ward off rapists without using a gun. here is state representative paul rosenthal. >> there is mace. what about a taser? the buddy system. other meths at self-it was. judo or what have you. there are other methods. it's not just the only method out there known to man and woman today is a weapon. of a firearm. anymore a nutshell, buddy system is good. yesterday, we told you about congressman who said the young women can't be trusted with gun for self-defense on college campuses. remember that one, bob? ing from, you begged me, you were begging me like this. >> greg: i am totally for the buddy system, as long as
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buddy is the name of your gup and can air condition a rapist at three feet. people can think it wasless woman can hand a rapist better than a woman could handle a gun. the idea of learning judo would only work if it increases the time it takes to reach for gun. the ideal woman goes to the gun range at lunch and judo on the way home and does no yoga. >> kimberly: interesting. okay. let's go around the table. >> dana: i watch him and i think to the state representative's comments yesterday, why did they want to be legislators? is this really what they were meant to be working on in colorado? is the stuff talking? there is plenty of other things -- >> kimberly: what happened to colorado? >> dana: i don't know. don't kns happened to colorado. this is a study i'm going to undertake. generous grant from the beckel institute and the gutfeld what
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to you call it, foundation? >> greg: gutfeld foundation. >> dana: i could get a grant for that. >> greg: you have to get admission to it. in my treehouse. >> dana: i think that guy would have been kicked out of toast masters. >> kimberly: they have a thing for public humiliation. >> greg: wow you were in toast masters? >> dana: i wasn't by i appreciate it. he would have been kicked out of it. >> andrea: what if a republican had come out and said ladies we have a rape plan for you. here it is. learn jujitsu. here is a pen to use to defend yourself. you can vomit, use a ball point pen, anything but weapon. but it's the equivalent of saying women are bad drivers, women can't hand a gun. >> kimberly: limited sexist thinking. >> andrea: they really need to be quiet on this issue. they have no idea what it's like. bob, do you have any idea? >> bob: in deference to
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these guys, they are debating a bill on the floor that been as concealed gun -- bans concealed guns on the colorado campuses. that is why they are talking about it. if you are in favor of it you have to say here is my a terptive. yesterday, a number of people responded to what i said about date rape as if i didn't think it was a serious issue. obvious i think it's a serious issue. horrible, horrendous issue. rape is rape. whether it's date rape or somebody coming in off the campus trying to rape somebody else. i very strongly feel that way. i just want to straighten the record out on that. i was simply trying to make -- there is not a distinction to make. but date rape is rain. by any other definition, rape is rape. >> kimberly: you were talking more about the -- we'll go into that in a second -- about guns on campuses with the largers issue. when you have one of the moments on the show, bring in some biden. >> if you want to protect
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yourself, get a double-barrel shotgun. have the shells of a 12-gauge shotgun and fire two blasts outside the house. i promise you, whoever is coming in -- you don't need an a.r. 15. it's harder to aim. it's harder to use. in fact, you don't need 30 rounds to protect yourself. buy a shotgun. >> kimberly: someone hasn't been to a range in a while. it's the reverse. i've got them. they are not hard to shootism'd rather shoot that, than a shotgun. >> dana: i like the guy next to him looking at him like what in the world are you talking about? >> greg: he realized at that moment it would be everywhere. the administration figured out one thing to scare the chinese, biden with a shotgun. >> dana: just fire two shots. >> andrea: somehow you can blow a hole through a person that is the size of a basketball and you can't shoot ten rounds in them? let me finish. he gave advice to his wife
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jill biden and said take two shots, go out on the balcony. we don't all have a balcony, joe. sorry. what happens when you're done with the two shots. talk about a woman's right to choose. why can't we choose our weapons of choice? here is a man out there, forget the fact he's undermining his own argument saying you may need to defend yourself in your home, making a choice for women as if we're not smart now have do it on our own. healthcare or taxes. they want to choose for us always. >> bob: i want to be it was of joe. i own a shotgun. i would much rather have a shotgun, two bullets in it that would spread out. much more safe to take care of yourself than with ar-15, whatever they call those things. >> kimberly: that is not true. have you shot an ar-15. >> bob: no, i haven't. >> kimberly: they're easy to shoot. >> greg: biden is a performance artist, the only successful one in history of
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world because he framed fun control as nonsense. state-of-the-arts after horrible tragedy and we end up talking about are these things, the little thing didn't have anything to do with it. he performs an amazing service and he is an aware of it. >> kimberly: the secret to the obama presidency. >> bob: most of you around the table think there should not be a gun debate, if you want guns you should have guns, right? >> greg: there should be a debate about guns. the debate is pointless because you are never going to get rid of guns. you to decide, okay, enough dreaming the magical dream where we walk around hand in hand. this is nev going to happen. so you have to talk about how do you defend yourself? >> kimberly: all right. >> bob: do you agree you can limit the kind of weapons that you have to less than -- >> andrea: the point, bob, one, we are not having a debate because the administration said here is the 3 # executive ordinary that -- 32 executive orders that had a handful of meetings and they are not gun experts.
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they didn't look at me tall health and refused to bring in hollywood. >> bob: the clip issue is something going to be decided by congress. that is the question. i don't think they are going to get a gun been a. >> kimberly: biden owns two shotguns himself. consistent. who care -- inconsistent. who cares? ahead on "the five." have you ever lied to your doctor? it's not a good idea but a lot of people seem to do it. why it should be hazardous to your health. that's next on "the five." ♪ ♪
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you tell the truth, the whole truth and fog but the truth? if you don't, you're not alope. article in the "wall street journal" today talks about some of the lies that people tell when they go to the doctor, like smoking habits or how many drinks they are really throwing down every night. the other things that people lie about to their doctors, alcohol, smoking, those are the two big up withs, recreationm drugs and prescription drugs and exercise. if the doctor says are you exercising in people say yes. now, bob, have you ever told a fib to a doctor? >> kimberly: please. >> bob: i can't count the ways. give you a prime example. doctors say, "you know, bob, how is your drinking going?" i'd say no, problem, i have it under control. the triglyceride was 750 and mine was 1100. he would say it doesn't match up with the chemicals in your blood. do you exercise? i exercise. typical guy's exercise.
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that's about it. doctors lie to you, too. >> dana: about what? >> bob: they gloss over the fact you're going to die. >> dana: sometimes in this article it says that people will lie to a doctor because they don't want to be lectured by the doctor. or they want to paint themselveses in a better light or they don't want to be told what to do. >> kimberly: i get that. i used to lie to my doctor all the time. now i'm too tired to lie to him anymore. no, i'm not exercising. or oh, i walk or whatever. >> dana: i'm a mom. >> kimberly: i'm a mom and i wear high heels up and down stairs. that's my exercise. i want to say people should exercise. >> dana: if you lie to your doctor, it could come back to haunt you, right? >> greg: i often lie to a doctor. jep new doctors. >> dana: nude?
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>> greg: new dongo doctor. i'd go to a doctor and lie about having a pain. check it out. i didn't have any pain. i didn't have any pape. >> bob: why did you lie -- >> kimberly: to get pain medication. bost oh, no. freddie that wasn't what i was talking about -- >> greg: that wasn't what i was talking about. >> dana: i got it. the other thing, electronic health records are popular. you tell your doctor something the chances of it getting throughout are greater. >> andrea: they should be worried about that. is a goal not to take it back to politics but a goal of the left is to get their hands on your medical records. i don't know why people lie. i have lied to doctors but sometimes i feel like they are judging. you don't want to be judgeed. but they really aren't. they want the help you get healthy. >> dana: like why you drink. >> andrea: i go in there, they have the little
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categories. one to three drinks, three to six drinks. one to three drinks per week. i know that it's in another category. but somehow i'm a binge drinker in my doctor's eyes. >> bob: obamacare, the insurance companies can get your health workers. unless you work out a deal for private -- two records. one is public and one is private. >> kimberly: you have done that? >> bob: many times. you think you a doctor with your privacy. the insurance companies can get their hands on it. >> dana: what about the concern if the doctors ask if there is a gun in the house. >> greg: i go there are two gups. >> dana: do you want to explain what you were talking about? >> greg: no. it was a joke better left unexplained for purposes of the hour that this show is on. >> dana: will you tell me in the commercial break?
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♪ ♪ >> bob: some of you may know i'm not afraid to place a wageer here or there. now there is debate whether legalize online gambling, nevada and delaware do it and new jersey is close to doing it to raise more revenue for the states. for or against it? >> andrea: i'm actually for it. i'm a little torn on that one but the decision should be left up to the state. lotteries are part of the state economies and people are doing everything online now. heck, you do it in the middle of the show or on commercial break. i think it hurts businesses and it may hurt casinos if atlantic city and new jersey. people should be able to do
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whatever they want in their own home. the worry i have is people will start doing this and they will get in big trouble because it may be easier in their home and the states rely on the revenue to keep spending. that is not the way to do it. new york is relying on people to light up and smoke because of the cigarette taxes. not the best way to go about it. >> bob: dana, you are at the track every day betting. >> dana: i am a big gambler. i don't know how you hide it online for the states. there are no boundaries on the state. i'm sure they figure that out. in some ways the legislators need to be for what is going to happen. online gambling is here to stay, so they might as well hop aboard a train. >> greg: i gamble with my day. in the old days you went to vegas, saw show, saw glamour and hired something now. you sit in your hotel room and hand money to person in the
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kaymans but i miss the mafia. casinos look at adult bookstores and think that is what is going to happen to them internet, no more adult books. what are we going do? >> bob: you can still hire whatever you want. >> kimberly: don't look to me about advice in that regard. say no an take a deep breath. i have come around with this about gambling. drinking, cigarettes, you can't control people's choice. if they want to gamble, they jump on the bus to atlantic city. my aunt does it all the time. i love her. i pay her, but she is going to go there. what do you want me to do? >> bob: someone who participates in this and figures out how to gammabl gammn the u.k. where it is legal. $32 billion in revenue raised where it's legal. what we're basically doing by not allowing is outsourcing our revenue to the other countries. if we had it here we could keep the money here as opposed
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to my money going to eng land. >> dana: why should it be taxed anyway? why are we taxing? drinking, and smoking. >> kimberly: we're broke. >> dana: i'd rather deal with that problem. >> bob: i thought you were sinless, you didn't like sin? >> dana: you thought i was the pope? >> bob: he is not sinless. >> dana: infallible. >> andrea: if you encourage to people to smoke and then they find themselveses in a worse position and we take care of them anyway. >> bob: arguing about the poor people. the fact is if the lotto tickets that people spend their money on it is virtually no chance of winning. this is legal everywhere. i will tell you this. one more thing is up next. ♪ ♪
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perform. ♪ ♪ >> we're mystery inc., we're ready to help out. >> we're mystery inc., we're really prepared. >> we're mystery inc., we're mystery professionals. ♪ ♪ >> we love to be professionally scary ♪ >> wow. >> greg: that might be the greatest thing i've ever seen in the history of the world. i'm not just going to go to this. i'm going to live it. >> bob: these people are for real in [ laughter ] >> greg: yes. isn't that amazing? we got to move on. >> kimberly: i love scooby-doo. freddie now you love them more. >> andrea: with that video, greg, i will never look at scooby-doo the same. so imagine having a baby, and then havin having twins.
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now two sets of twins on the same day. 70 in million chance of having this. texas mother, she had two sets of twins, 36 years old. when she went in her doctor's office, they detected a third heartbeat and fourth. so same day she had four little boys. >> bob: same father? >> andrea: it's very cool. yes, the same father. >> kimberly: did you go to college or any -- what? >> greg: where are we? bob? >> bob: my turn? i didn't know. a kid named nicolas, who is nine years old, on his way to run in a marathon. nine years old. he wants to run in a marathon in every continent. kid, you are nine years old. you will destroy your body rupping these things. exercise is
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