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>> it is being billed as the world's largest art work, now lighting up san francisco bay. jenna's old home, 25,000 lights, painting a very pretty display on the san francisco oakland bay bridge. 500 feet high and 1.8 miles long. it's an 8 million dollar light show, it will continue every night for the next two years. the western span of the bridge. the eastern span is being replaced after being damaged in the earthquake 24 years ago, 1989. remember that world series? work on the bridge scheduled to be finished later this year in time for labor day. >> we're trying to figure out who paid for the art work and haven't seen the answer. >> hope it's not the federal budget. >> it's a beautiful bay without the lights, but the lights are pretty cool.

>> take a picture next time you're home. >> i will. >> thank you for joining us. >> "america live" starts right n now. >> megyn: fox news extreme weather alert to begin the hour. winter saving the worst for last. possibly the big s storm of the season blanketing the mid was and now hammering parts of the east coast in washington d.c., and the nation's business ground to a near halt. federal offices are closed. the white house briefing canceled. and we're also hearing about growing power outages and coastal flood watches in effect and we'll show you what's going to happen next in a couple of minutes, but first this. another fox news alert. new evidence president obama may be on the losing side of the argument over recent budget changes. welcome to "america live" everyone, i'm megyn kelly. after weeks of hearing washington complain about the dramatic fallout from the automatic spending changes that the president proposed and congress passed and that the president signed into law, a new abc news poll finds today that americans support those spending changes by a

2-1 margin. except when it comes to the cuts that we're facing in the defense department. all that comes as we also get a leaked government memo that suggests the administration may be trying to make sure that changes at different federal agencies are living up to the dire warnings put up by certain administration officials. the e-mail comes from an agriculture department manager, who asked about the kinds of changes he was being asked to make. and says his bosses responded by saying, quote, however you manage that reduction, you needake sure you are not contradicting what we said the impact would be. chris stirewalt is our fox digital editor on foxnews.com live. and this is a guy who goes out and inspects fish and want today make the cuts less painful and claiming his bosses were saying, well, you can't do it the way you want to do it and by the way, don't do anything that would contradict the warnings that we've put out. and that's is what?

>> that tells us that mitigating the consequences, mitigating the effects of this so-called sequestration, you talk about the changes, the automatic decreases to automatic increase toss federal spending, any change that would be made to that, to soften the blow for taxpayers or consumers of federal products, if you will, is not attractive if your goal, as it seems very clear now, that the obama administration's goal is, to make it as bad as possible or seem as bad as possible, in an effort to get the upper hand on republicans in the ongoing battle over how much money the federal government is going to spend in the next six months. >> they are saying it's being misinterpreted and that vil villesack who overseas the department of agriculture told everybody and i mean we need to make these cuts as painless as we can, not as painful so he doesn't seem to accept the interpretation by some of this memo, chris, and yet, if that

really is the instruction behind closed doors or otherwise, that folks in these agencies need to make the cuts appear -- they can do nothing to contradict the dire warnings that came out, then we're all in a lot of trouble because here is just a sample of the warnings that were given. listen. >> sequester will weaken america's economic recovery. it will weaken our military readiness. >> air traffic contollers, airport security will see cutbacks and that could cause delays at airports across the country. tens of thousands of parents will have to scramble to find child care for their kids. emergency responders, like the ones who are here today, their ability to help communities respond to and recover from disasters will be degraded. federal prosecutors will have to close cases and let criminals go. thousands of teachers and educators will be laid off. >> megyn: not good. not warnings we want people

feeling they have to live up to. >> no, that's correct. think about this, if you want to know how this is working out, remember a couple of weeks ago that fella at the department of homeland security who let out a couple thousand illegal immigrants who were in a federal detention center. he said because preparing for the awfulness of sequestration and they said, well, actually, we didn't need to do that, it hadn't actually started yet and we're kind of sorry about that and then that guy quit or rehe tired or whatever he did. we find out now about the same time, the department of homeland security had put in a 50 million dollar bid for new uniforms. so we have sort of jumped the shark on this sequestration scare tactics and now we know. and it's very simple what we know now, which is this whole fight is about setting federal spending levels from the end of the march to the end of september. that's all this is about, a fight back and forth between the president and republicans in the house about how many billions of dollars the federal government is going to spend in those six months. that's it. >> megyn: they need to look

their best, i mean, when you're out there on the front line trying to make these arrests, you know, you need to look authortative. i know you say it's all about the funding, so boring, i can't say the term the resolution, i can't do it. >> no, we'll think of something else. >> megyn: sequestration, even though it's important, it's a boring term. >> yes, ma'am. >> megyn: but "the washington post" and others are reporting that what's really going on here, what this is all really about is posturing by the white house to kick out the republicans so that the democrats can control the house, come 2014. and so all the rest is just window dressing, it's noise, it's perfected fights, it's strawmen, to sort of make people feel good or bad against one party or the other so they'll hopefully kick out the republicans from controlling that house in 2014, that's what they believe the president's goal really is in all of his moves here. >> well, he said it and his team said it and we remember

very well the white house communication director, former white house communications d pfeiffer, that the add ver s-- add ver saris are unworthy and they're looking at the president forsees an all democratic congress and the social issues and the gun control and all the things he wants he's trying to have delayed gratification. and the republicans now and enjoy the fruits of his victory. >> megyn: i've got to go, wasn't mitch mcconnell the republican leader in the senate, killed, skewered for saying his number one goal was to defeat president obama? that was his number one goal and clarified and he said that's my number one political goal. so is that not president obama's goal, his number one political goal to get rid of the republicans so he can control the house. where is the outrage against him that we saw against

mcconnell? >> well, they're republicans. you're allowed to hate on them. that's okay. that's not a problem for many so don't worry about that. >> megyn: okay. thank you for that. (laughter) >> see you, chris. >> you bet. >> megyn: fox news alert now, look at this. >> this is a rare event on the floor of the u.s. senate. republican kentucky senator rand paul is attempting to block the confirmation of john brennan as the next director of the cia by talking and talking and talking some more, talking nonstop and refusing to yield. this is an old-fashioned filibuster, everyone. he's been at it for over an hour already and he's planning to continue for several more and he can continue it for 70 hours, he wins a-- no it's something that we used to do and then they waived the need to do it because now you can stand up and say filibuster. well, he's doing it the old-fashioned way and he is

using this opportunity to object to the obama administration's controversial drone policy after attorney general eric holder suggested that president obama may indeed be able to use military drones against the u.s. citizens here in the good old us of a and said it was hypothetical circumstances and senator paul was not happy and here he is moments ago. >> i rise to filibuster john brennan's nomination to the cia. i will speak until i can no longer speak. i will speak as long as it takes until the alarm is sounded from coast to coast that our constitution is important, that your right to trial by jury are precious, that no american should be killed by a drone on american soil without first being charged with a crime, without first being found to be guilty by a court. >> megyn: well, rand paul

cannot join us today because he's busy, but there's another senator who feels very strongly about this drone issue and was shocked by the memo that attorney general eric holder put out in response to rand paul's inquiry saying, yeah, you know, we don't-- we're not saying we're going to do it, we don't have plans to do it, it's hypothetical, but we could do it. in five minutes iowa senator chuck grassley joins us on the breaking news and on the growing controversy on the president's power to kill americans potentially on u.s. soil using drones. ♪ >> well, some of the venezuelans now living in america are cheering the death of president hugo chavez. some of hollywood's biggest names are mourning. oscar winners, sean penn and oliver stone released statements paying tribute to their friend. penn says quote, the people of the united states lost a friend it never knew it had. while stone, who directed a documentary on chavez called him, quote, a great hero to

the majority of his people. another man is weighing in, former president jimmy carter released a statement praising chavez's commitment to improving the lives of millions of his fellow country men. but the man's death raises serious questions about the future of a country that's one of america's largest oil suppliers and chief harrigan is in caracas, venezuela with more. >> venezuela sharply split on hugo chavez, half the nation hates him, half the nation loves him. we're seeing the love on display, tens of thousands of venezuelans marching behind the procession and the remains of chavez, the preparation for a state funeral on friday, a real testimony to the connection that chavez had, especially with the poor and also his power on television, as a performer. for at that state funeral we're likely to see pageantry and 12 world leaders including the president of iraq and ahmadinejad who called hugo

chavez a saint and compared him to jesus christ. this is not just a funeral though, it's also a run-up to an election, that has to be held within the next 30 days and walking alongside right next to the coffin chavez's hand picked successor, a man who has shown he's willing to continue the anti-u.s. policies of hugo chavez, back to you. >> megyn: steve, thank you. well, new concerns today that prosecutors may have a problem with the only person who can provide any insight into trayvon martin's perspective on the night he was fatally shot in florida. wait until you hear what just happened in the george zimmerman murder case. and new perspective on one of our most famous political families as president george bush, sr. updates a collection of rare and personal messages with a touching look at leadership, history, and a father's love for his son. and new on the missions of the attorney general after he

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>> breaking news now on a stunning exchange in the senate hearing just a short time ago. texas senator ted cruz grilling the attorney general eric holder. this all relates to why rand paul is filibustering right now to some extent as well, but it's this issue about drone strikes and not just

drone strikes on enemies overseas, but drone strikes on american citizens here on american soil perpetrated by our own government. so ted cruz, the senator, talked to mr. holder about this and comes down on mr. holder after the attorney general suggested that president obama can act potentially, hypothetically as judge, jury and indeed executioner and order a drone strike on an american citizen here in the united states. senator cruz pushed him on that and here is the attorney general's response. >> does the constitution allow a u.s. citizen on u.s. soil who doesn't pose an imminent threat to be killed by the u.s. government? >> i do not believe that-- again, you have to look at all of the facts. on the facts you've given me, this is a hypothetical, i would not think that in that situation, the use of a drone or legal force would be appropriate because-- >> mr. holder, i find it

remarkable that in that hypothetical which is deliberately very simple you're unable to give a simple, one word, one syllable answer no. >> megyn: joining me now, iowa senator chuck grassley. thank you for being here. now we see ted cruz, senator rand paul who is now filibustering john brennan's confirmation as cia director and john brennan refused to deny categorically on drones killing u.s. citizen on u.s. soil and the attorney general's position on this, why? >> first of all, it goes back several months and at the same time when chairman leahy and i wrote a letter for the justification for the use of drones to kill american citizens overseas. now, of course, the

justification was given at that time you could, we still don't have the documents or the legal basis for it, we're still trying to get that, but now they've -- they've assumed that you could possibly do that within the united states. so, you can-- without a trial, without an arrest, without any charges just decide for some reason or other, this person should be executed by drone. now, you heard senator cruz say that he was going to introduce a bill that would deny that power to the president so then i followed up and asked general holder if he thought that that bill would be unconstitutional and he said, yes, under the second amendment or second article of the constitution, that would be unconstitutional in his judgment. so, what i find really surprising here is we have now president obama acting different than when he was senator obama and they found

fault with what was called the executive theory that the president was all powerful. they were finding fault with that at that particular time and now they're assuming the same power that they accused bush of not having the constitutional authority to do it. >> megyn: all right. let me play devil's add voe tvoe-- advocate for this, the question is is entirely hypothetical. i suppose it's possible to imagine a circumstance where it would be appropriate to do this on u.s. soil to a u.s. citizen. for example, the president could conceivably have no choi homeland of a catastrophic attack as we saw in pearl harbor or 9/11. what about that senator grassley? what if the passengers on board that fourth aircraft hadn't brought that plane down

in shanksville, pennsylvania? there has been talk whether we were prepared to shoot that plane down to save countless other lives and would we have had a jury trial before we did that? would not our president have had the authority to make that call? >> well, without answering your question because it's a tough one to answer, i can tell you, here again, you have general holder taking two sides, different sides on the same issue. you know, when bush made-- >> i get. forgive me for interrupting you, you've made the hypocrisy point. i want to get to the substance because i see how it's easy to get outraged, senator paul you're going sitting there eating your dinner and get the drone, and i laughed because that's a little extreme, but eric holder seems to be talking about in a truly catastrophic situation do we really want to tie the commander-in-chief's hands? >> i think the answer to your question is a very basic one that you would learn in any political science class where society based upon the rule of law and the constitution is a

very basic document and the constitution has to be followed. and at this point, i don't see where the president gets the authority to be executioner for american citizens on american soil. i would look at that differently, american citizens that's exercising with a jurisdiction of people that wanted to kill americans entirely different or i would look at somebody that wasn't an american citizen in this country, that if you were dealing with a foreign nations or foreign operation that wanted to kill americans. it'd be a different story. >> megyn: we have items, constitutional rights here in this country and you and many others are making the point that you believe they could be violated here. senator, thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> megyn: well, another political debate in washington today over whether president obama is refusing to compromise on a budget deal because of politics, that's ahead. a new report reveals one

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♪ ♪ vogue ♪ >> you heard chris stirewalt, new reports that two days before washington decreased the increase in our federal spending by a bit, and by the way in the midst of the fed warning of us of horrific results if those changes took place the transportation security administration made a 11th he hour deal on new uniforms, 50 million dollars worth of them. trace gallagher has the story live from l.a. trace? >> reporter: and don't forget, megyn, the department of homeland security the whole time department warning about

these long, long security lines because they might have to layoff tsa agents or furlough other tsa agents. remember this from the homeland security janet napolitano? play it. >> at our busiest airports, like newark and jfk, lax and o'hare, peak wait times which now, even now is too long, peak wait times at some of these airports can approach two hours, could actually grow to almost four hours. we are he trying to mitt get that as much as we can. >> reporter: but here is the good news once you get to the front of the line the agents that are there are apparently going to look amazing because the feds apparently signed a brand new 50 million dollars contract with a uniform provider, that's 50,000 tsa employees, do the math, works out to about $1,000 per employee and each agent gets list this for you, three long sleeve shirts, three short leave shirts, trousers,

sweater, belt, jacket and socks and the agents pro he vied their own shoes, but contractors with a company called vf image wear which owns lee and wrangler jeans, you know, good old all american company, right? no, not really because apparently half of their stuff is produced in mexico, which has some lawmakers not too happy. dhs issued a statement and i'm quoting here, 50 million dollars represents the contract's maximum value not the maximum spended. without the contract bridge tsa would not be able to procure additional uniforms. they might not spend the whole 50 million, but if you take that and put it towards salary, maybe the lines that they threaten are going to be longer wouldn't be longer. >> megyn: so let me get this straight. when they're telling you and me it to take off our clothes, they're going to look especially spiffy in theirs?

>> dapper as can be. >> megyn: be sure to pay a compliment. never hurts, bring a smile to someone's face. trace, thank you. >> reporter: okay. >> megyn: we have a unique look into one of america's most famous political families as president george bush, sr. updates a collection of rare and personal messages that offer a touching look at leadership history and a father's love for his son. plus, the growing debate over whether the president's real goal in these recent budget negotiations was not to protect the middle class, but to hurt the g.o.p. >> what we have is a reelected president basically not trying to reach consensus on important issues, rather, he's hoping that the messy stalemate will tee off voters who will throw out republicans and give him full control in 2014.

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[♪...] call or go online now. [♪...] >> fox news extreme weather alert now and possibly the biggest winter storm in the season. hello march. on the left side of your screen is the latest track of the monster blizzard. hammering the washington d.c. area and triggering coastal flood warnings up the new england coast. on the right side of the screen is the scene this storm has left in its wake, dropping nearly a foot of snow in the midwest, forcing schools to close in minnesota, wisconsin and illinois and canceling thousands of flights. we'll bring you the latest on the storm as we get it. well, fox's own bill o'reilly

touching on a growing he debate last night, his talking points, if he asked if president obama is more interested in scoring political points and hurting the g.o.p. than finding real solution to our debt crisis and spending crisis in washington? here is what he said. >> the real reason president obama is not trying to solve the fiscal chaos, that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. as you may have noticed, i'm getting very frustrated with president obama, it's nothing to do with ideology, it has to do with performance. so, it's obvious to anyone who pays attention that mr. obama is not trying to solve the fiscal mess, he does not want to cut spending and will not put forth any specific plans to do so. largely letting him get away with it. the question he is why? why is mr. obama not trying to solve complex problems? recent article in the washington post provides insight about the lack of compromise on mr. obama's part. the goal is to flip the republican held house back to

democratic control allowing obama to push toward with aggressive agenda on gun control, climate change and the economy in his final two years in office. according to congressional democrats strategists and others familiar with obama's thinking, unquote. so what we have is a reelected president basically not trying it to reach consensus on important issues, rather, he's hoping that the messy stalemate will tee off voters who will then throw out republicans and give him full control in 2014. that's very disturbing, as brit hume said last night on "the factor." . >> the president seems prepared to let the public suffer almost as much as possible as long as he can blame somebody else, this is not what we expect of presidents. presidents in the end are supposed to be the people who put on their big boy pants and shoulder responsibility. >> it's all about the progressive theme of greater good. let the folks suffer now so we can save them later by changing america into a

nation, almost like mr. obama is sabotaging the country so he can reshape it. there comes a point where every nation in history gets what it deserves, rome, germany, russia, japan, destroyed by venal leaders with the population, i pray that doesn't happen to us, but we the people need to wise up fast. >> megyn: joining me now monica crowley and kirsten powers, both are fox news contributors. there's a theory that the president is sabotaging the country so he can reshape it based in part on what bill and others deem the president's really, his refusal to deal with republicans in a way that could real his particul-- realistically come up with a compromise. >> i've come to agree with the theory that the president is trying to destroy the republicans in an effort to

get the house back because he in the last two years could pass all the things he wants to pass that he can't get done with the republicans. i was very skeptical about that, but it's a little hard to look at the way the president-- the president's been behaving and not come to that conclusion. i don't think it's venal i think he just feels like he can't get done what he needs to get done with the people in congress. >> megyn: monica, when you look at the other side a lot of folks say, look, this president would love to, contraire toy what bill was positing in his talking points, cut spending and debt crisis under control, but faces an opposition that refuse toss raise taxes and thinks he needs a balanced approach and people need to meet him in the middle. we've heard the president say he's been responsible-- reduced our deficit by more than 2.5 trillion dollars, and said that over and over reduced by 2.5 trillion

dollars and the republicans won't deal with tax hikes. >> let's deal with the circumstances. he's not the new guy on the block he's been the president over four years, there's been no piece of evidence the last four years that indicates any desire, a, to work with republicans and b, to rein in the deficit and c, to control deficit and spending and get this debt under control. remember, megyn, in his first two years he had huge democratic congressional majorities that allowed him to do whatever he wanted. so, if he were really being truthful in 2008 when he said, and my by first term-- >> we were in a crisis then. he said he we were in crisis then and all about crisis management first term in office. >> we now have four years of evidence as to what this man meant when he talked about the fundamental transformation of the nation and what he means by that is moving america away from a self-sufficient society based on individual freedom and free market economics and towards a western european model ofsm and welfare state.

that's why he will not work with republicans and not put up any numbers except for budgets that have been so absurd they couldn't get democrats to vote for it. >> megyn: kirsten, i went back and trying to look at 2.5 trillion dollars in deficit reductions and what i gather, only 1.4 trillion of true spending reduction, the rest is like tax hikes and so on, okay? so true spending reductions and of that 1.4 trillion in spending reductions that he's agreed to, they take place over the next several years through 2022 and it's-- it remains to be seen whether the cuts will be implemented and whether the future congress will make them. leads to frustration by people who want to see actual cuts. >> the thing is, republicans expect obama to buy into their view of the world and his view of the world is not that the deficit is an immediate problem that needs to be dealt with and i share the same view of the president is right now you do not need to be cutting a lot of the spending and even like the stuff happening with

sequestration, people are going to lose jobs and that's not good for a fragile recovery. so, to expect him to buy into this world view, that he doesn't have and most liberals don't have, does not make him venal. in trerms of weather-- you pooh-poohed monica in the budget cuts, where else was he supposed to put them. in the 2013 budget he has cuts to medicaid and specific cuts that add up to 400 billion dollars and he also, with social security has talked about doing changed cpi. >> megyn: don't say change cpi. >> what's that. >> megyn: don't say change cpi and it's basically a reduction to-- >> it's something a different way of measuring inflation that would result in cost, cost, major cost savings for social security. so, whether or not this has been the central focus of his administration, and i don't think it has, and i think he could be doing more on it, it's just inaccurate and as bill said last night to claim

he's never proposed-- >> here is a question for you, kirsten, if you assumed that he means what he says, when you're talking about the potential cuts that he's willing to put on the table, if you assume that he means what he says, then let's say he gets a full democratic congress and keeps the senate the last two years of his presidency. do you honestly believe he will see the cuts through? >> the man has done the exact opposite over the last four years, there is nothing in his pattern of behavior or history to suggest that he would follow through. in fact, it's blown up spending to an unprecedented degree. >> megyn: again, and here, then there was a reporter from i believe speaker john boehner who said the president specifically told him he doesn't believe we have a spending problem. >> well, look, there is a fact of the matter, also, most the democrats in congress don't want to touch entitlements so i think that would be a difficult thing to do. i'm just talking about facts, what he has put on the table, for bill to say he has not made any proposals is not true. you can have another discussion about what his

priorities are, but i don't think going back to what he did in the first four years is a good example. we're in crisis-- >> follow-up to you, kirsten. i asked stirewalt at the top of the hour. mitch mcconnell got skewered by the left when i said our number one goal is to beat president obama in reelection and he came out, i meant political goal. people were upset with him for saying that and if this is true, this washington post report and the theory that president obama, that his real goal here is not to attack the budget or avoid sequestration or any of this stuff, it's about getting the democrats the control of the house in 2014. isn't that the same thing? >> yes, it's exactly the same thing, megyn. i mean, that's why i'm always a pox on everybody, they're all terrible. you know? i'm not -- i'm not defending any, obama's behavior the sequestration stuff is insane the way that it's being handled, i'm saying that if we want to talk about what he's proposed in terms of entitlement cuts, he has made some proposals, that's all i'm saying.

>> megyn: you know, when she talks, it's like putting a warm blanket around you, isn't, a monica? they're all terrible. >> we have to understand, i love kirsten to death. we're not dealing with a normal president here, he's not a problem solver, he's a problem creator and a fundamental transformer and that's what drives him every day and his legacy, by the way, it's not bipartisan legislation or working with the congress. his legacy in his own mind is that fundamental transformation of the nation and that's why you don't see him behaving like a normal president would. >> megyn: we'll leave you with pretty hu brit hume's question whether or not he's wearing his big boy pants. thank you. and growing suspicions that america may have a new serial killer on its hands as they launch a growing investigation into what or who is responsible for the disappearance of aspiring young models, as the dow nears

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personal and often emotional stories about his life and his son's time white house. the book titled "all the best, george bush, my life, letters, other writings" joining you now to discuss it is doug, the presidential historian. what a piece of work this is, the former president shares such intimate and emotional moments throughout the course of his life and his son's presidency. i want to kick this off, this is a letter he wrote it a long-term journalist and friend, hugh sidy, i think you pronounce it, passed away since. a letter to hugh the day after george w. bush had been sworn in as president, from george h.w. bush, our son was president of the united states of america, it was for real, our pride knew no bounds. we managed to contain our emotions, but shook us to the core. wonder, joy, amazement, honor, happiness, i don't know how to describe what i felt, but it

was good, real good. >> that's amazing, yeah. and you have to go back to the adams to find a president who expresses himself like george herbert walker bush does. it's not stream of consciousness, these notes he writes, they're stream of heart. presidents always write to tell us what they were thinking, but you seldom get a president who writes and tells you what he's feeling. so, this is a wonderful treasure trove for historians. >> megyn: he talks about, we've seen bush the elder get emotional since he left office in particular and one subject that gets him going is his son and his family and certainly this book and the update reflects how, how easily he is touched object matters that affect them. in particular criticism. he writes about one moment, this is not a critical moment, but talks about the fall of

saddam hussein and writes, i shamefully choked up when i heard about it the tears tumbling down my aging cheeks. i was embarrassed, but i realized, i shouldn't worry if people see this visible manifestcation of a father's pride, a father's love, joy from all you've given me and your mother over the years. barbara and i are at your side, i hope you can feel it it. we'll stay out of the way, but i hope you can feel it, this day of vindication. it gives you a flavor for what he went through during thinks presidency with saddam hussein versus what bush the younger did as well. >> absolutely. i was intrigued by the former president's correspondence with mulroney, prime minister mulroney he when he said he just saw his son deliver his address at the republican national convention and he tells the prime minister, now my political work is done. really? so you'd read that and think wasn't your political life over when bill clinton was

sworn in as president? but you see these presidents spend their presidency trying to shape what happens and they spend their post-presidency trying to shape what people think happened, but here is george herbert walker bush realizing that his post-presidency is out of his hands. it's not going to be normal. it's now his son, and he's a helpless bystander and his son will help define the legacy of the bush family, not he himself. so, very revealing, these notes. >> megyn: the pride that he had in george w. bush beginning the presidency twice and then the hurt that he felt personally when the press attacked his son and in particular his son's character, he didn't seem to mind, he took his licks, but when they went after his character and described him as a liar and someone who was heartless. we'll talk about the wake of katrina and the interesting advice he shared to his granddaughters, jenna and barbara before they went on spring break.

> that thisith us is ridiculous, of course he felt it and that there were

some staff mistakes at the time. there was a slow reaction, but to accuse a motive of the son. the father knows better. >> megyn: and he had some similar empathy for folks across the part of the aisle, talked about al gore's defeat to his son in 2000 when florida was ultimately declared for george w. bush and said i suddenly felt for him. talking about gore, saw him as a man whose disappointment had to be overpowering and i knew he must be hurting. he was very gracious and he had been in public life a long time and he and his family were shattered. >> that's an old formula for the bush family. they know that politics changes and they reach out across the aisle and they reach out to people who are hurt, and suffering politically. and journalists. sometimes when they're down, the bush family will reach out and some could say well, it's calculated and know that these people are going to bounce back. i think it's heart felt. when he writes little notes and jots little comments to nephews and nieces and

grandchildren that are so thoughtful, that's not political. they're going to vote for him anyway, that's thoughtful. >> megyn: i love the one to his granddaughters jenna and barbara about to go on sprin break, i'm worrying about you, if you're off trying get on the wild college tv women's show and sitting here in the library, i'm here if you need adult leadership and leave you with one final moment from his book where he talks about the day after president george w. bush won reelection and he asked, bush the younger asked me to come over the oval office and i threw on my clothes and went over there and the two of us sat alone in that historic office. for me, it was magic. >> yeah. >> megyn: it's history that we're looking in this picture, that we're looking at in the picture and that we all lived. >> yes, and you know, he and his family study that history much more than journalists do or even historians like us, and he knows that in a hundred years, there'll be tv

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>> fox news alert, a new political firestorm is brewing in washington over a white house decision to cancel tours of the people's house. brand new hour hereof "america live," welcome everyone, i'm megyn kelly. the administration announced the move saying it was designed to save money in the wake of the automatic budget changes that took effect last friday. and republican quickly reacting to the decision. in a tit for tat, an amendment to the house spending, to suspend funding for golf trips unless the white house tours are reinstated. and our ed henry is at the white house, is it snowing? doesn't look like it. what happened to the snow? >> the republicans aides on capitol hill snickering at the

snow-quester, a lot of hype and not a lot turned out and flurries, messy in washington and shut the federal government down and employees don't have to work. and white house tours will be should down because of the sequestration starting next week have been shut down today due to inclimate weather and speaker john boehner the republican leader making a point and putting out notices that capitol tours are still open and republicans are trying to make some hay out of that, saying that the white house is trying to hype up the sequester a little bit. the president tonight will be at the jefferson hotel here in washington, he's called some republican senators together for a little bit after bipartisan dinner and it talk about not just the sequester, the broader budget situation, maybe immigration reform, other issues like that. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell says he's not worried about the president going around him to go to rank and file republicans. jay carney all this week has been saying, look, the point of this is the president wants to work with both sides. take a listen. >> frankly, i'd wish he'd done

more of that over the years. we've had, all of us, very limited interaction with the president and he's certainly doesn't have to go through me to call on my members and i'm sure he will. and i encourage him to do so. >> that work remains to be done and the president is interested in, you know, finding the members of the caucus of common sense and working with them to bring about a resolution to this challenge because we should be able to do it. >> reporter: now, he's talking more broadly about the so-called grand bargain. getting beyond the sequester and dealing with some sort of a large deficit reduction package that would have spending cuts as well as new revenue as well. potential tax increases or eliminating deductionses and jay carney says the president will next week be going to capitol hill, a rare journey up there to meet with house democrats, house republicans and senate republicans and

dak democrats as well and go to all four caucuses to show he's serious about it, megyn. >> what do i do if i want a white house tour? >> i think we could probably pull some strings for you. >> megyn: what about our people? >> reporter: well, the people come first, but you're, not everyone is created equal. you're a big player so we'll take care of you first. >> megyn: getting bigger by the day, ed. thank you. (laughter) . >> reporter: i didn't mean it that way. >> megyn: god love you. as ed was mentioning, that's enough of ed after that. goodbye! as he was mentioning, our nation's capitol was supposed to be getting hit with a powerful snowstorm right now and d.c. is pretty much shut down. more than 1300 flights have been canceled into area airports and service suspended along some of the commuter train and bus routes and people asked to stay off the roads and the governor of virginia declared parts of a state of emergency and parts of that state nearly a foot of snow and 200,000 people losing power. and snow in chicago setting

snowfall records in what's called the biggest winter storm in two years. more than a thousand flights canceled there. schools closed across three different states and we shall see what happens in the nation's capital as the day goes on. we're tracking questions about this wall street rally. see the news yesterday. the dow hit an all-time record high. some saying it's a sign the u.s. economy is on the mend. great time to be in the market, they say. but there are new numbers suggesting what's happening on wall street may be disconnected from what's happening on main street and that has some folks very worried about where this is likely to go. melissa francis, host of "money with melissa francis" on fbn is here to rain on our parade. >> oh, no, come on. >> megyn: i liked it better when folks were saying, whoo hoo look at the numbers, we're rich. >> if you're in the market, but unfortunately a lot of americans took their money out to pay their bills. if you want to look at the

statistics where the economy was, versus where it was when were at the highs of the market and justified and we have a lot for you. if you look at gross domestic product, the size of our economy and the growth of that, that's what tells you how healthy the economy is. back then, in 2007, it was growing at 3%, and now, it's barely growing at all. and gas prices are higher. look at the number of people unemployed. back then, it was about 7.2 million. now, it's better than 12 million. we have twice as many people on food stamps, so, that tells you that a lot of the fundamentals aren't there. at the same time, look what we've spent to get here, those are the bottom two numbers on your screen right now. the debt at the ratio of gdp that's how much we're spending, as a percent of how much we're making, is double. we're spending a fortune, we know that, but that fed balance sheet. >> megyn: where it gets confusing for me. >> i'm going to make it simple for you. >> megyn: okay. >> that's the he fed out there buying bonds, all the stuff they've been doing to prop up the housing market to make

sure that you can get mortgages, everything they've been out there doing in the bond market, their balance sheet gobbling things up has gone from less than a trillion to 3 trillion. and some day, they're going to have to sell all that stuff. and that's what a lot of really smart economists are starting to worry about. that unwinding. when they come in to sell that stuff. >> megyn: does that make the stock market numbers that we saw yesterday artificial? they're artificially high, is that the theory? >> a lot of people are worrying about that, you know, you don't want to get out right now because the fed isn't going to stop doing what it's doing. but. >> megyn: when it does? >> when you he see the feds start to move for the door. >> megyn: and can't do what it's been doing in perpetuity so it will stop doing it eventually. >> in fact they're going to keep doing what they're doing until unemployment is 6.5%. they basically told us at what point they're going to start selling the stuff they've gobbled up. >> megyn: do you think we'll see a tumble and the 14,000 number is going down, way down? >> a lot of smart people say they want to be at the exit before the fed gets there and

the fed has said in black and white when they're going to be at the exit. and you have to wonder if the stock market can hang on. the only way it could be if the economy is strong at that point. if we see the economy roll back by the time the unemployment gets to 6.5%, and maybe the stock market will be able to hold it together. if you look at the fundamentals, there are strong corporate earnings out there, that's one plus. there aren't a lot of other plus. >> megyn: they're not hiring people, but making a lot of money. >> they're not hiring people because they don't believe in the economy either. >> megyn: when i was reading up on the segment and i don't do a lot of-- >> yes, do you, in your free time. >> megyn: i'm not as smart as you, i didn't go to harvard, i don't get it. haven't taken a math class since 10th grade. they said what should investors do, if you're in the stock market and you're in a 401(k) what should you do. the advice was be nimble. what's helpful. our 401(k), we don't touch it. we rise and fall. >> and if you jumped out after

the big decline, you missed the way back, and the market is where it was, your 401(k) in theory if you just hung on is back where it was, so enjoy it while you can? when you see the feds pulling out at 6.5%, you're getting out. >> i think when unemployment is close to 6.5% when you start paying attention and seeing what the economic fundamentals look like. >> megyn: but it's interesting, to hear your theory looking at the dow, that's not the benchmark for how healthy the economy is there's a reason the dow is inflated. >> it used to be, but now it's really about the fed. >> megyn: thank you, melissa, i actually understood. >> good. >> megyn: thank you very much. you know in college in syracuse, take math or intensive language and now apollo eye t apollo italiano. >> you're way ahead of me. >> megyn: and the trayvon martin case, the subject in kelly's court as we learn about a quote, lie from

trayvon martin's girlfriend. was it a lie, that's what they say, that's now left prosecutors in a tough position. she's a crucial witness in the case and that case took a major hit today. we'll talk about it in kelly's court. plus, the white house being challenged and why america just gave 250 million bucks, taxpayer money here, to the muslim brotherhood in egypt when federal workers are being furloughed right here at home? and up next, we'll speak to the rape victim who yesterday pleaded with colorado lawmakers to preserve the right of a person to carry a conceived weapon on college campuses, only to be told by a state lawmaker that she didn't really understand the issue and the specifics were really not her-- >> the colorado coalition says that-- >> just wait. >> for every, for every one woman who used a handgun to kill someone in self-defense, 83 were murdered by them.

>> well-- >> go ahead. >> respectfully, senator, you weren't there.

>> back now to our breaking news last hour. republican kentucky senator rand paul in hour two of an old-fashion old-fashion old-fashion old-fashioned filibuster, trying to block onbrennan. he's upset about the obama controversial drone policy discussed at length by mr. brennan as well. that now administration officials are confirming may authorize president obama to use a military drone strike against an american citizen inside the united states. they say it's a hypothetical situation, it would be extraordinary, bah, bah, bah, but they're saying that they could potentially do it. here is senator paul from a moment ago. >> i voted for the first three

nominees by the president. this is not about partisanship. i have allowed the president to pick his political appointees, but i will not sit quietly and let him shred the constitution. i cannot sit at my desk quietly and let the president say that he will kill americans on american soil who are not actively attacking our country. of this and keep you up-to-date how long he actually speaks. in developments today in a story we first brought to you here yesterday energy on a woman named amanda collins. she's a rape survivor who pleaded with colorado state lawmakers to preserve the right of concealed carry, carrying a concealed weapon on college campuses in colorado, saying being able to do so would have made a difference in her case is her belief. the collins story got national

attention after the state senator hudak told miss collins statistics are not on your side. here is the exchange that started the controversy. >> i just want to say that actually statistics are not on your side if you'd had a gun. >> and the coalition says that-- >> just wait. >> says that for every, for every one woman who used a handgun to kill someone in self-defense, 83 were murdered by them. >> respectfully, senator, you weren't there. i know without a doubt in my mind at some point i would have been able to stop my attack by using my firearm. he already had a weapon of his own. he didn't need mine. >> megyn: that young woman, amanda collins joins me now. amanda, thank you for being here and sharing your story and i don't mean it to cause you any additional pain, but could you tell us to the extent you're he comfortable what happened to you so we can understand why you believe having had a weapon on you may

have made a difference? >> sure. well, the brief version is that during my fourth year of college while i was leaving had a night class after taking a mid term, i left and walked to the parking garage where i had parked my vehicle with a group of people, because it's ingrained in us and in me there's safety in numbers. i was the only one who parked on the ground floor so i said goodbye to the people i was with and went on to my vehicle because i didn't see any immediate threat, but what i didn't see was a man hunched behind a wheel well between a truck and sedan, and he grabbed me from behind, forced me to the ground, placed the pistol to my temple, clicked the safety off and brutally raped me less than a hundred feet from the campus police

office where they park their cruisers. >> megyn: oh, my goodness and this happened when you were a student at university of nevada at reno and you actually. >> correct. >> megyn: did have a permit for concealed carry, but there, like, like colorado may potentially make it it to law, you were not allowed to bring it on your college campus and why you were giving your testimonial to the lawmakers in colorado, right? >> right, because i was legislated into being-- the right for me to say no was taken away from me by them denying me, the one tool i had, one equalizing factor that was available to me, i couldn't have. and consequently, this man after he attacked me, went on to kidnap and rape and victim and raped and murdered the third that we know of. >> megyn: this state senator, evie hudak, a long sou went ona

even if you had a been you wouldn't be able to get one. and your reaction to having her lecture how things would have gone under various scenarios in your mind. >> i don't know if it was more victimizing or more patronizing. i was taken that it wasn't a question as it to if i thought maybe this is a possibility. she was telling me without even having been there, without having lived through any type of seminar experience what would have happened. and it was infuriating to say the least because what they're trying to do in colorado is to take away the women's rights to say no by legislating them into a being a victim the way i was here in nevada. >> megyn: why do you believe if you had a firearm on you at

that time that you may have prevented the rape? >> to be honest, i don't-- with the way i was grabbed, i don't think i would have prevented my attack from starting, but that has been the unanswered question of my life what would have been different had i been carrying that night and it's kept me awake countless nights as i replayed the worst day of my life and i know at some point during my attack i would have been able to stop my attack in progress. >> megyn: how do you feel about -- and i know to her credit she did pull you aside after the fact and apologize. a lot of instantous negative feedback and calling her disgraceful, and so on, and she did apologize to you. she's not the only one, we saw the colorado lawmaker salazar women raped on campus, shouldn't have guns because they don't know whether they're going to be raped or

not. and he later apologized. and seems like a pattern of lawmakers who haven't been through what you've been through. >> she apologized didn't mean to upset me and offend me. she believes i would have been the one out of the statistic that she used, that would have not had my firearm taken away from me because i looked like an emotionally and spiritually strong individual and she went on further to say that she should have saved her comment for later. she shouldn't have said it right after i had testified. she should have waited until all the testimony was completed so i just take it to be that she's not really sorry for what she said, she's just sorry for the flak that she's received from it and the way that it was perceived. >> megyn: and now we're in a situation where colorado, you know, may ban the right of concealed carry on campuses. >> right. >> megyn: and at the same time, has this advisory out we've talked about a while

ago, advising potential rape victims to urinate on their attackers, to claim that they were, that they had a disease and so on. and would be in a situation where they had no firearm to protect themselves. i know it's a controversial issue. i'll give you the last word. >> well, i just would leave with the same question i'm continuing to ask lawmakers and asked senator hudak in the hall when we were speaking privately and i asked her, how does rendering me weaponless protect from you violent crime and she looked at me for ten seconds and her response was, i don't know, but laws have to be made. >> megyn: amanda collins, you're clearly a very strong woman and i commend you on being able to speak about a horrific or deal in an articulate way hopefully for other women to be on the lookout and never assume safety even when they think they've found it, thank you so much.

>> well, thank you for your time. >> megyn: we'll be right back. [ whistle blows ]

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>> a brutal attack in the land of the kremlin reads like something out of a soap opera. a star russian dancer now confessing to the crime. this is the artistic director of the world famous ballet before he was attacked and this is the same man after someone threw a jar of sulfuric acid in his face as he returned home back in january. trace gallagher has the very latest on the bizarre case, trace? >> reporter: megyn, these are some of the biggest stars in russia, think about it. the lead dancer of the bolshoi theater in russia, and that

man who is now the artistic director. the men by the way once danced together. the man you're looking at there, walking to his home and yelled out his name and tossed sulfuric acid into his face and after several surgeries they are hoping to save his eyesight and now pavel dimitri who played ivan the terrible, villain in swan lake, confessed -- there he is dancing right there. confessed being the master mind behind this thing actually hiring the man who tossed the sulfuric acid in the man's face. and here is the man actually confessing in a police video. play this. >> i'm dimitri born in 1984. moscow resident. i live in moscow. i master minded this attack, but not to the extent that it

eventually happened. >> reporter: that's how they do it in russia. keeping with the theatrical theme. the attack was over a woman, another bolshoi dancer and he was apparently protecting the honor of his girlfriend passed over for key roles and that's her with him right there. the attack, by the way, captured on surveillance cameras and two other men involved in this have also confessed and they're all facing up to 12 years in prison, megyn, if they're convicted, but it looks like they likely will be. this is like brad pitt attacking george clooney over angelina jolie in russia, this is how big the dynamic is over there. >> megyn: or maybe jennifer aniston attacking angelina jolie over brad pitt. maybe more, i don't want to say likely, but -- more akin to the situation. all right, trace, thank you. >> reporter: okay. >> megyn: coming up, dramatic turn in the trayvon martin murder case today. and it is dramatic as we learn

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>> a new criticism for the white house after secretary of state john kerry announces the u.s. is given egypt muslim brotherhood-led government 250 million dollars, your dollars. the move comes as our nation is dealing with big spending changes that have been controversial and that the administration has railed against. now, some are questioning what could be restored here at home if that taxpayer dough stayed in the good of a. the list including funding for marshal salaries and expenses, food service, fema, federal air marshals, border security costs and september 11th victim compensation and nuclear waste disposal. instead we will give it to egypt. joining me now, mike

gallagher, a radio host and fox news contributor and so we're giving it to egypt. it's 250 million bucks and now folks are going through how much that good that could have done to us. let's start with you on this mike, i talk to bolt been this all the time and he's not fan of egypt, but says rehe pepeate we've got to do it for a stable egypt. >> you left off the ever important white house tours, for americans not to see all that is wonderful in obama-land and not glance at the place where the vaunted obamas live. when we're giving 250 million to a muslim led brotherhood than the needs we have. egypt has extreme needs. hello i think we have pretty extreme needs in the united states of america, as you said, this is our money, taxpayer dollars, it shouldn't be a surprise coming from emporer kerry and his decision to make-- >> it's not emporer kerry

because the congress appropriated this money. >> but nonsense. >> it is nonsense because the congress is also, this isn't done in a vacuum and this is an obama administration led decision to say we need to have a stable-- this is all, i mean, just the optics are awful. >> megyn: the optics are different than who caused it. >> the congress allocated and the obama administration is it spending to egypt. it's important we have a stable middle east. i remember a time when republicans were in favor of democracy and freedom in the middle east and millions in the bar in iraq and we need to rethink criticizing the obama administration when it's really congress, but-- >> let me jump in and ask you because among the controversial, you know, decreases to the increase in spending that we just had are the cuts to the military. >> right. >> megyn: and the former defense secretary leon panetta

was saying this is madness and dangerous and we shouldn't be doing it so when you talk about protecting ourselves on an international basis from what's happening in the middle east, should we be starting here at home as opposed to trying to secure egypt with a billion dollars? maybe we held back that 250. maybe we gave it to the pentagon. >> that's a question for congress, but second, also, it's much more important to spend this money in foreign aid than to send troops or to have naval ships, you know, stationed off the side, the coast of egypt. that is not the way to solve this problem. we need to spend in order to promote democracy before we even-- >> and before you give your response, mike, i want to read to you, a quote from ileana ross lateen. and it's not on the right path to obligation to the international community or even its own citizens when it comes to that. >> with all due respect to what we've done in the past,

egypt is an ever-changing story and with the recent election and muslim brotherhood leadership, it's not a typical middle eastern scenario we're trying to instill democracy. back to congressional spending, you think it's secretary of state john kerry who made the announcement, it wasn't congress making the announcement, it's john kerry saying we're going to hand over 250 million dollars of taxpayer money to egypt. listen, if the obama administration wanted to push back on this, i think they could. i know they could. that we-- >> well, it's an authorization, not a mandate. >> it's not a mandate it's an authorization and there's a distinction there with a difference and i think the bottom line here is that it's terrible, a terrible message to struggling americans to say, we're going to try to help an egypt with their needs and ignoring the united states. >> megyn: can i ask you what the optics are, and i do want to ask you about that. when we were preparing for the presidential debates and we partnered with google, and someone came on camera and you know, a regular american guy and said very simply, why are

we giving all this money to countries that hate us? and you know, we have some problems with egypt. >> yeah. >> megyn: we're not as close as we used to be. >> right. >> megyn: to the regular american guy sitting at home, they do ask, why are we giving all of this money to them when we have the problems at home? >> no, no, that's a legitimate point and question, but again, like i said, this is a question you need to be asking your congressional representatives and not targeting the obama administration for something that they didn't have control over. >> you're acting as if-- >> the spending power and constitution-- >> the administration is not objecting to this, and that's the difference. i think you look at the death of hugo chavez and the reaction by many on the left, mainstream journalists like "the washington post" eugene r robson is acting like-- >> eugene is a little left of center, just saying. >> practically weeping. sean penn-- a lot of liberals will get mad at me and liberal democrats, i

garan fee what uarantee you, the america, and they love a leader li leader hugo chavez. >> and wait to drop a bomb on-- >> i don't know how i'm going to react to something. >> well, you're a democratic strategist, i'm saying a lot of liberal democrats don't like america very much. >> i'm an independent thinking person. >> megyn: said something incendiary and said that-- >> he needs to get to know me because i'm not easily triggered to anger. >> good. >> we need to invest in making sure that democracy is spread and that's something we all can agree on, it's part of our national security and we wanted to make sure that egypt was stable and why we were so excited during the arab spring. >> it's a tough-- >> we've learned a lot about each other, and about each other. >> we better partner you two

together often. thank you both so much. >> thanks, megyn. >> megyn: we're also asking this question today on our website, should the u.s. continue to make big foreign aid payments while domestic programs face these budget cutbacks? you can see it here in this story at foxnews.com and linked on the front of our home page, asking you to weigh in on that. and back we go to washington and the breaking news and republican kentucky senator rand paul. he's now coming up on hour three of the good old-fashioned filibuster blocking confirmation of john brennan as director of the cia. and while he's been talking about the drone program he's also been quoting alice in wonderland and our chief correspondent mike emanuel has the pleasure of witnessing all of this. why is he doing this? i know on principle he's doing this, mike, but why is he doing it procedurally and doing the old-fashioned filibuster? >>'s he trying to draw

attention, megyn, to the idea of drone strikes here in the u.s. and talked a lot about anwar al-awlaki, the cleric taken out by a drone strike overseas and he's asking the constitutional question about due process and whether or not the united states government is willing to rule out the possibility of a drone strike here on u.s. soil to an american citizen. he got an answer from the attorney general that did not satisfy him. 's been asking john brennan similar questions so this is the power that one united states senator has to hold up the proceedings as the senate appeared to be heading toward voting on john brennan's confirmation to be the next cia director. he slammed on the brakes by saying, he was rising to filibuster the nomination, he says it's the not personal toward john brennan, it's not personal towards the president. >> megyn: and he we talked about some of the stuff and reasons earlier, but i want to ask you, we heard-- what's he doing? every time we dip in he's on something, and he's reading from alice in wonderland and how long is it likely to go on

for, overnight all day. >> megyn, you know as somebody who talks for a living, it takes a lot of words to fill up the time. he's been on the floor and most for the part not personal towards the president or mr. brennan, but he has grave concerns about the constitution and grave concerns whether or not this could happen on american soil. if you're sitting in a cafe with some friends and the government decides that you need to be taken out, well, are you protected? are your friends protected? that sort of thing. and so, but talking by yourself all that time, you can run a little thin on topics, so, he has taken some creative measures. i should note that about ten years ago, harry reid was holding up some of president bush judicial nominee and started reading from a book about his hometown, searchlight, nevada. we've seen creative techniques, it doesn't happen often or the last time something like this, bernie sanders, december of 2010 who was objecting to a tax

measure. >> megyn: okay. >> so he -- and so it's an unusual circumstance and we are witnessing it now. it's not clear how long he'll go. >> megyn: we want today hear the fairy tale read. mike, thank you. apparently this is what he read apart. no, no, said the queen, sentence first, verdict afterwards. stuff and nonsense, alice said loudly. and he's has to... bah, bah, bah. you can imagine the reaction of this and we're getting this from c-span and we don't control the shots. wouldn't you love to see the reaction? if we get that we'll put it on the screen. fox news alert we've the got live pictures from the bay bridge in annapolis where a truck has been blown over by this winter storm. you can see the fire trucks reversing down the road here. wow. take a look at the pictures, wow. we're going to have the latest on what exactly the storm is doing just ahead. and up next, the key prosecution witness in the trayvon martin murder case caught in a lie. i mean, that's how it's being

described by the attorneys in the case, that could undermine the entire case against george zimmerman, a significant development today. right after the break we'll take a look at what this victim's girlfriend, trayvon's girlfriend said and what it means for george zimmerman's defense and why her original testimony about what she heard in the conversation between trayvon and zimmerman on the night in question was so critical to begin with. >> i was calling his name. >> were you saying what now? >> like get off. >> get off? >> yeah. >> is that clear that you were hearing that or you think you heard that. >> yeah, i could hear it a little bit. get off, get off and then the phone just hung up. [ male announcer ] here's a word you should keep in mind. unbiased.

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the two men at issue, she's the woman identified as trayvon martin's girlfriend has been caught in a lie and a big one and could cast doubt on the rest of her testimony in in case, what she told prosecutors about a phone call she had with the victim trayvon martin right before he was shot and killed by zimmerman, a neighborhood watchman. >> i called trayvon, what's going on, what's going on. and then i'm calling him, yeah, answer-- >> no answer from the-- >> i >> arthur aidala and jonna spilbor. she's going to testify we believe at trial that she witnessed the whole thing, heard the whole thing, the confrontation and most critically, that she says trayvon said to zimmerman why are you following me.

and zimmerman's testimony is he was not following trayvon. the two bumped into each other after an earlier thing and that he was not stalking this kid or following this kid. now, we find out that she was caught in, they say a lie, a mistake. you tell me what it is, but jonna what is the defense saying? this is big, defense is saying we've got one star witness because there are no eyewitnesses, right? we have an ear witness, as you pointed out, who claims to be on the phone when this whole thing started and the whole stand your ground defense stems on whether or not geroge zimmerman was the aggressor here. if you go by her, the girlfriend's testimony, it sort of goes the other way. it's like geroge zimmerman was the one who was following trayvon, this is big, but the lie that she told was, she claimed that she was in the hospital on the day of trayvon martin's funeral. she was not. now, why you lie about something like that is really

unclear. it's kind of a strange lie, but it's a huge lie. not a mistake, not a mistake. >> why is it such a huge lie. >> why would she lie about that. >> megyn: let me pick it up with you, arthur. why is it a huge lie? because she was under oath. she swore she could not go to the funeral because she was in the hospital and the defense asked for the medical records and then he revealed that that was a fabrication. >> we're not in federal court. this isn't martha stewart or roger clemens, a lie under oath. it's did. >> megyn: i'm not saying a crime, it goes to her credibility. >> in the 1990's when i was a prosecutor in brooklyn, new york crime was rampant. if i lost every case, my star witness had a rap sheet an inch thick got caught in one lie i'd lose every case, jurors don't hold witnesses to such a high degree regarding one lie or two lies, especially for something that's inconsequential, where

were you at the time of the funeral. i think that-- >> i was in the hospital. i mean, that's-- it's not like i can't remember i think i was busy that day. i was in the hospital is from i was never in the hospital. >> your honor, a good prosecutor is going to get over that without breaking a sweat. without breaking a sweat. >> megyn: jonna, you used to prosecute cases and-- >> she's the main witness, not only the main witness in favor of the state, but we have physical evidence on the defense side that she's going to counter with her testimony? come on, if we can't believe what she is saying, arthur, then why would you ask her to do that. >> as you know, people don't walk onto the witness stand without being prepared by the prosecutor and the prosecutor will spend weeks preparing this woman, young woman, to testify and-- >> that's another thing, she lied about her age. >> megyn: i don't know how he there's a question, i didn't go to the funeral i was embarrassed so i lied. but under oath, wait, the defense has made a critical

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>> all right. so arthur and john with back with me now. the defense was supposed to me now. now. defense was supposed to have a this was supposed to take place in april where he could have gotten rid of this entire case if he convinced the judge that george zimmerman could take advantage of florida's stand your ground law which has been very controversial in this case. could he have used it this in this situation? it was a shot of a complete get out of jail free card. it sounds like he is not going to use it and go right to the jury trial. >> i don't blame him one bit. the defense is winning. why give the prosecution two bites at the apple. george zimmerman is going to have to testify at the immunity hearing and he is going to have to testify at trial. if they are doing so well pre-trial, which they are, and since this case is

going to boil down to george zimmerman's testimony vs. this ear witness slash travon martin's testimony why should the defense risk putting george zimmerman on the stand before trial. >> another chance to get him off scot-free, arthur, what do you think? >> no judge has the gus to do that megyn. >> i'm going to let you down and make a profound statement. i agree 100% with my colleague. i think -- i don't think -- i think the last statement is the truest one. it would take a tremendous amount of intestinal fortitude for a judge in this international case to say, yes, the facts are so clear that he was standing his ground i'm dismissing the murder -- the life imprisonment charges who killed a young boy, i just don't think that they -- not what the evidence is there. so he already -- he is on the record with the whole barrel hearing testimony. is he going to be able to be impeached on that. be able to be impeached did this hearing. then what he says at trial it gives the prosecutor so many bites at the apple.

you are worried about this young woman getting caught up in a lie on one thing. he he would wind up getting caught up in a lie on 10 things. >> megyn: he may be there. he may get caught in ten things. >> megyn: he gave a long testimonial to the police, and compare that to what he said at the bail hearing and there are already inconsistent side as well. statements on zimmerman's side as well. i don't know, both of you bases the same on the judge expecting to throw the case out-- >> and exactly. >> megyn: throwing the judges under the bus. >> the reality, there's pressure from the media and politics. >> megyn: public outcry. >> and it would be just be-- >> officers of the court. >> have you ever watched o'reilly's program and judge's make decisions and you're there defending them. >> megyn: that's it, wrap, case dismissed. and coming up, the young woman on trial for murder who claims she killed her boyfriend in self-defense getting questioned now by the jurors. stay with us.