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>> steve: yeah. 75 kids. >> gretchen: kevin spencer will stick around fort after the show show with more amazing magic stories. see you tomorrow. bill: i've got these card tricks. unbelievable. show stoppers. the repeal of obamacare. congressman paul ryan releasing a budget that includes doing just that to get our spending and debt under control. a bit of a headline from over the weekend. good morning on a monday as we start a new week. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to "america's newsroom". martha: hello, bill hemmer. i'm martha maccallum. the plan is to release full details of paul ryan's budget plan tomorrow and it is said to include far-reaching entitlement reforms. listen to this. >> the ps has us on a path toward a debt crisis that hurts everybody, that brings us to a recession, that brings us a european kind of experience which we want to avoid. we want people going back to work, higher wages, more jobs, growing economy.

we get that. >> at the end of the day we'll have a balance solution. it will involve all elements. talk about expenses revenue and entitlements. >> the problem we don't see from the president any structural changes in this unsustainable occurs on the entitlements. >> let me just say this. >> we see request for more and more taxes at a time we raised taxes $620 billion on the american economy. >> we believe obamacare is a program that will not work. which believe obamacare will lead to hospitals and doctors and health care providers turning people away. bill: start varney has been listening to all this and the host of "varney & company" on the fox business network. good morning, stuart. >> booed morning, bill. bill: outline each side and start with what paul ryan will propose. >> paul ryan the republicans, their side of the fence says we want to spend $5 trillion less. we want to balance the budget in ten years. we want to repeople out

right, repeal obamacare. that is the ryan republican position. on the other side of the defense the democrats are saying we want a balanced approach to these talks. that means we want more tax revenue and we are prepared to talk about entitlements. the two sides not moving very far actually, frankly bill, still far apart. bill: you heard the republican leader in the house john boehner and the senate, mitch mcconnell say they will not move on revenues anymore. they have been there, done that. is there any serious movement you see? >> when you say talk about entitlements, that, is little bit after of give from the democrats. but talking about entitlements and reforming entitlements are two very, very different things and mean different things to different sides of the aisle. bottom line, bill, this is budget talking week. it is not, by the looks of it at least a budget deal week. bill: come back to obamacare because many republican governors are accepting the

medicaid expansion, which cooks it deeper into the public system here. why are they still fighting obamacare? >> i don't know, i don't know why paul ryan brought it up because quite obviously obamacare will not be repealed anytime in the next three years that i can see. why he brought it up i don't know, except to say that the only way he says you can balance the budget in tin years is to billion lishg obamacare. as why he brought it up tactically when it is not going to happen, the repeal is not going to happen, i don't know why he did that. bill: republicans continue to argue it is hurting jobs and it is a drag on the economy. portman originals, senator portman from ohio there is no sign of change on behalf of the white house. if that is the case we're at a stalemate, right? >> yes, we are at a stalemate. the talking and the white house has and will be involved this week in direct talks with politicians on the other side of the fence but that's as far as it goes. on the terms of the issues the two sides are very, very

far apart. bill: see you in 15 minutes at fbn. stuart varney leading our coverage. thank you, stuart. >> sure. bill: martha. martha: april 1st is the deadline for the senate to bring a budget resolution. how long has it been since the senate came up with one of these? 1412 days. it goes back to april 29th, 2009, almost four years since they have done the essential component of their job is to develop a budget for this country. that is not a actual budget by the way. what they have to come forward with is the guideline how congress plans to proceed. that is how things work. the guideline. not just the actual budget. bill: if you were driving over the weekend, pump prices were dropping after three months of increases that is like january, december, february, it is not like until this year. average price of gallon of regular, $3.70 a gallon down five cents from a week ago unless you live here in new york where you pay over 4 bucks a ghoul lon.

martha: a little cheaper over the other side of the river. go to new jersey to get your gas. all right, so the united states and south korea kicking off skroint military drills this morning. this despite north korea's threat to launch a nuclear attack on the united states and scrap the 1953 armistice that ended the korean war. it has been quite a couple weeks with news out of north korea. these military drills come in the face of that steve centanni is live in washington. steve, they made these threats before. why should we think this time it might be different? >> reporter: martha, with war games underway on both sides of the border, with north korea saying it is ending the 60-year-old cease-fire with the u.n. now ratcheting up sanctions, tensions are running higher than at any time since 2010 when pongyang attacked a south korean island. this follows a series of missile launches by the north and more importantly, north korea's third underground nuclear test since 2006 which took place

on february 12th. last week the u.n. security council voted unanimously to impose tougher sanctions aimed at north korea's finances. at the same time north koreaians are threatening nuclear war on south korea and the u.s. and that kind of talk of course the state department tells us is not helpful at all. spokeswoman victoria knew land saying this kind of provocative rhetoric and these kind of actions just are not going to improve conditions for the north korean people. they will not end the isolation. they will increase tensions and extremely regretable obviously. experts say with the recent missile launches and nuclear tests north korea may be closer to actually being able to strike the u.s. martha. martha: what is the nature of these military exercises we're going to see? what do we expect? >> reporter: huge exercise long-planned but comes at a very crucial time now. the 11-day drill begins today, that involves 10,000 south korean troops and 3,000 american troops.

continuing at the same time are large north korean drills that seoul say involve the army, air force and the navy of the north. the u.s. and the international community monitoring all this very, very closely. martha if. martha: steve, thank you very much. let's look back at some context here. the korean war started in 1950 when 75,000 soldiers from the north korean people's army poured across the 38th parallel. that was the boundary between the north and the south. it was the first military action of the cold war. american forces followed. it was a war against largely international communism. the fighting ended three years later. five million lives were lost. the korean peninsula still divided to this day. bill: getting headlines, isn't he? in this country, fox news extreme weather alert. another winter storm hitting the midwest and the plain states. state police had to shut down highways in parts of nebraska because of blizzard conditions there and dozens of accidents reported as

well.here is something jackknifed in the ditch. i don't think you can go a mile without seeing something in a ditch. >> it is really, really bad. we've seen trucks jackknifed, accidents and it is real bad coming down 80 heading west. you get patches of real bad wind storms and snow and ice. it is really, really bad. zero visibility. drive with caution. bill: a lot of caution. that storm is moving east. so where to now? meteorologist maria molina is in the fox extreme weather center. where to, maria. >> bill, very good advice from the video. drive carefully across-sections of the plains. the good news as far as the storm system goes really the snowfall we've been talking about is starting to wind down. still coming down across portions of iowa, wisconsin where we've seen as much as 14 inches of snow over the weekend even including basically the overnight hours early this morning. ahead of this system we do have areas of heavy rain

coming down right now across southeastern parts of louisiana, mississippi, alabama, tennessee. it will be a very rough morning commute for you out here if you're still headed out on the roadways. cleveland the rain is coming down in your areas and two areas across the west. snowfall is still coming down. the worst of it is over. we do have breezy conditions producing whiteout conditions. some of it across parts of iowa, southeastern minnesota and wisconsin where we do have winter storm warnings in effect. totals in the warning area, 49 inches of snow expected. breezy conditions. that should continue throughout this afternoon, bill. bill: all right. i wish they had what we had over the weekend because it was all right. >> it was beautiful. today too. bill: maria molina with us there. i was feeling spring forward on the clock and it was in the 50s. but we're going to pay for this. martha: i think so, in a week or two. martha: snowstorm probably right around the corner, right? march is always a tricky one. we have a lot going on here this morning. we're watching all of it in

"america's newsroom." we're 24 hours away when the cardinals of the catholic church will begin their discussions and their voting on the next pope. as this issue gets a lot more attention the possibility of an american people pope. bill: how about that? a former tsa agent speaking out about airport screening calling it a complete joke. why he says it is not a question of if the terrorists get through but rather when. martha: defense secretary chuck hagel's trip to afghanistan, wild accusations from the afghan president hamid karzai of course, who he accuses the united states of secretly teaming with. unbelievable story. we'll be right back. >> when a nation would be at any time looking at the possibility of engaging an enemy, there is still at war with, that's difficult. ♪

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martha: we are back,. and the investigation underway into the suv crash that siled six teenagers in ohio. the car crashed into a guardrail on warren yesterday, yesterday morning, rather and landed in a pond. two other people were hurt. investigators are focusing on speeding in the key factor in the crash but are not saying whether drugs or alcohol were involved. bill: sad, sad story. a stunning accusation now. president hamid karzai says the united states is conspiring with the taliban to keep that country unstable. the allegation casting a dark shadow on the first overseas trip for chuck hagel as defense secretary. mr. hagel asked about it, responding upon his arrival in kabul. >> i told the president it was not true. that the united states was unilaterally working with the taliban in trying to negotiate anything. the fact is, any prospect of,

for peace or political settlements, that has to be led by the afghans. bill: all right. what gives here now? kt macfarland, fox news national security analyst. good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: you spent some time over there as i have as well. what is karzai up to? >> well, he's corrupt and he is incompetent but he is not crazy. what he is trying to do now he concluded the united states is leaving and he is trying to position himself for what comes next. he knows that the last time the taliban came into afghanistan karzai's predecessor ended up mutilated and hanging from a lamppost. what he is trying to do is distance himself from the americans, blame everything on the americans, so that when the taliban come in the minute we leave, he thinks he might be able to avoid hanging from at lamppost. bill: take a step back here because what he is alleging is that the united states is working with the taliban to kill people in afghanistan!?

>> right but this gets better. kill innocent people. kill americans. we're trying to kill our own people so we'll have an excuse to stay in afghanistan. we do not want to stay in afghanistan. we want to get out. we hope to get out without shooting our way out and what we hope we leave behind is stable afghanistan. that is looking increasingly unlikely. bill: you say once the united states leaves in 2014, leave we reduce forces. >> combat forces. bill: 10,000 in country. he is looking for someone to blame when things fall apart again? >> things will fall apart. i think that is concluded. he is trying to position himself when things fall apart he is not blamed for the american problem. i think he has another plan. they have taken billions, he and his family and cronies looted billions on the top of all assistance and military assistance we've given them. i think it is stashed away someplace. when the americans get on the last plane he is on the plane right before it. bill: you do? >> honestly.

bill: is there anyone capable of leading the country. >> no. i think it will descend into civil war. the people i talk to say it will he do send into civil war. northern alliance will keep fighting. taliban will keep fighting. when i was in afghanistan i talked to one of karzai's former top guys, he says the minute the americans leave we'll be slaughtered. bill: you say, what was this all about? you say face it the afghanistan war is lost. >> yeah. bill: what is the last very much len years about? >> when we went into afghanistan we did the right thing to kill al qaeda and destroy it. by december 2001, al qaeda had less than 100 fighters. they were in a rickety old bus in the tora bora mountains. usama bin laden had written his last will and testment. instead of following the bus into pakistan and killing them, we said to the pakistanis. two billion a year, you deal with usama bin laden and al qaeda. we're going to stick around in afghanistan and we're going to build a nation.

we'll build a democracy. we'll make sure that al qaeda doesn't come back. and so we made two mistakes. one we engaged in nation-building for ten years. the other mistake was trusting the pakistanis. bill: if this goes the way you're laying out, this does not look good for this administration. >> doesn't look dad for anybody. bill: they will leave behind a country in shambles you allege, just as much as we found it in 2001. >> bad things will happen. i think what will happen is that if there is any chance that this ends well, it is if we get all the countries in the region who have a stake in this, india, pakistan, russia, china, even iran and get some kind of a cease-fire everybody agrees to, we'll not supply and let the fighting stop, i don't think that's going it happen. i think they fight their way to the finish. bill: quite revealing. kt, thank you. chuck hagel said the afghans have to negotiate with the afghans, the u.s. can not be, perhaps they could help perhaps but they have to talk to the taliban to get

something importance and long-lasting. >> thank you. bill: martha, 18 minutes past the hour. martha: we have new developments emerging in the murder case of the olympic "blade runner",. what his lawyer is now saying. stick around for that. bill: nancy pelosi raising some questions, well, eye-raising remarks we could say. >> the president has always been very respectful of the views of the republicans in the congress, their leadership and their membership. bill: what about that? karl rove weighs in next.

bill: lawyers for the olympic "blade runner", filing a new appeal in a south african court. they argue against what they call restrictive bail conditions for oscar pistorius, including the

requirement that he hand over his passport and all travel documents. he is accused of killing his girlfriend, reeva steenkamp on valentine's day. he says the shooting was all an accident, thinking she was an intruder inside of his home in pretoria. martha: this is an incredible story. it is a breakthrough in medical technology giving paraplegics the hope to walk again. john roberts joins us live from atlanta on this sorry. good morning, john. >> reporter: good morning, martha. you remember the old television series the six million dollar man? a stuff of old science fiction back then but now at least in part science fact. a new device liberating for the loss of use of their legs. that is as long as the government doesn't get in the way. the step that shattered his spine was the last one michael gore took for a decade. a 12-foot fall that left him paralyzed from the waste down. >> the first thing i said i

can't feel my legs. >> reporter: at atlanta shepherd rehabilitation hospital, gore is about to do something remarkable, stand up and walk. >> it was amazement, excitement, joy, all good. >> reporter: gore is wearing a battery powered ex-sew skelton, in essence a robot that gave him freedom he thought he would never have again. ryan faris is leading the development team. >> every aspect of the design was to promote independence, unprecedented independence for these users. >> reporter: this ex-owe skelton auld ingigo is one used for production. get them into clinics like the shepherd center where incredibly they're subject to the obama administration tax on medical devices. >> it doesn't make sense to us. you don't want to do anything that will slow down the commercialization of a prod like this. >> reporter: ultimately the goal is to get them into the

homes of people like michael gore. who said even a chance to walk for a few hours a month at the hospital gives him a new perspective. >> a new outlook on life. from being normal to feeling paralyzed. feeling paralyzed but yet almost normal again. >> reporter: the company manufacturing these say they could be less than away from clinical application. the other issue is the cost. that is $60,000 you're looking at there. they're trying to get that down. still unclear, martha, whether or not the insurance companies would ever pick up even a part of that cost. we'll find out. martha: just extraordinary watching him get up out of the wheelchair and walk. john, thank you so much. bill: the tax is 3%. senate democrats want the thing overturned. we'll see whether or not that happens now. we are aa day away from making history and we'll all watch it together tomorrow. at the vatican, what the cardinals are doing today that might give us clues how they will react tomorrow

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bill: cardinals are making their final preparations in vatican city ahead of the historic conclave tomorrow. 115 cardinals closing,

closing, rather, themselves inside the sistine chapel. closing themselves off from the outside world and starting the process of electing the next pope. lauren green is live in st. peter's square and lauren, what is the word on the front-runners? >> reporter: well, you know there are reports out, bill, this morning that the cardinals have developed two camps. the americans one with those outside the roman curoi, which is the vatican government are said to be supporting cardinal angelo scola. he is a 71-year-old archbishop of milan. it is italy's largest diocese along with venice produced five popes. scola is considered a conservative theologian known for reaching out to the muslim world. he is seen as someone to clean up with the mess and scandal in the vatican. we have also the one from brazil of german descent, would give the church's first latin american pope. the region is home to the 40% of the world's

catholics. american cardinals emerging as serious contenders, new york's timothy dolan, boston's sean o'malley and houston's daniel dinardo. one analyst said even though the americans are making quite a splash here in rome, it is early to bank on it. bill: lauren, the vatican insiders have their money on lot of different people. there seem to be different categories of favorites and middle ground and perhaps the long shots. what do they say the cardinals will be focused on during the conclave when it begins on tuesday? >> reporter: remember, i talked about there are two camps developing and this is really giving an indication what the cardinals are looking for but it is also giving an indication what the church's multiple needs. take a listen. >> they're looking for someone who is holy because he is preaching the gospel and he should, you know, he should be living the gospel he is preaching. they also want a brilliant theologian. then they want somebody who can communicate to grammar

schoolkids and then they want somebody who can reform the vatican curia. they are looking for jesus christ with an mba. >> reporter: i'm not sure that exists actually in the college of cardinals but some other finishing touches they made this morning on the balcony. we've got a lot of activity here very close to st. peter's square as you hear the sirens. a lot of stuff going on today. there is finishing touches on the balcony where people will get a chance to look at the first pope after he emerges after the white smoke. there is news out of the cardinals congregation meeting this morning, last one they have before the conclave starts tomorrow. they announced 12 eastern time there will be swearing in of all the auxiliary staff. they have to be there to help the cardinals in the conclave. and also the final procession. everything kicks off at 7:30 tomorrow morning with the cardinals entering the sequestered living quarters. bill? bill: there is that word.

jesus had more than an mba i do believe. lauren, we look forward tomorrow when we get underway. lauren green there. how will this work inside the sistine chapel tomorrow? greg burke is the communications director of the vatican. he joins us live with details on that next hour on "america's newsroom.". martha: from the vatican to this story today. the growing debate over feminism in the workplace after one of facebook's top executives pen as new book on her own work experiences and while chief operating officer cheryl sandburg points out a list of barriers women still face today. critics say the advice will carry barriers from working woman who might not have success your average silicon valley executive may have. getting a little heat for that. let's bring in our fantastic panel, female or not, they're fantastic. liz macdonald, fox business network and melissa francis, with "money" with melissa francis on fox business. hey, ladies.

whenever a woman of this kind of stature comes out and starts talking about feminism, she wants to create a rebirth of feminism, a new generation of feminists in this country, it raises a question, liz, i want to start with you, do we need it? do we need that? >> you know, what she was saying was so interesting last night on "60 minutes" whether or not we need it. she is saying, yes, we need it. one out of seven corporate officer positions held by women. that number stayed flat over the last ten years. but what she is saying it is women's problem. the women's fault. women essentially saying reason why i succeeded i worked hard and i had luck and help from others but it wasn't my own skills. that was her message. that was her own epiphany, maybe i am the reason way i think. i have been looking at this for a long time. i created the world's most powerful women's list at "forbes" which sheryl sandberg is on and has been on. we heard that from women routinely. we heard from different

woman with different responses around the world. women who run entire governments who say, we are the problem, yes, we also have change the mindset too. we'll start leading whole governments around the world. martha: we have led whole governments around the world. you look at great britain. places all around the world there have been plenty of female leaders. there are lot of woman who opt out of the workforce. so to me that one in seven number is questionable. i see far fewer barriers to women and i feel like, i want to get your thoughts on this, melissa, i don't love the idea of feminism. i think it is still sort of separates us and asks us to be judged as women rather than as, you know, a great panel as i just introduced you guys, you know? >> i have known cheryl forever. we went to harvard together. she is brilliant, driven woman. one of the things missing from the discussion you're hinting at, women just make different choices. you come along and you decide there are only 24 hours in a day and only so much you want to commit to your career and there is so

much you want to be home. maybe it is your own choice why you are not the ceo because you chose a different job that allowed you to have more time with your family. i didn't choose to be a "60 minutes" reporter because if i had struggled for that i wouldn't be home at night. it is one of those things where along the way maybe if i aim for this instead of this i will have more time at home. >> you know what is interesting how you put it, martha, about the approach about feminism because when we did that list at "forbes" and we started it we didn't want to take the feminist approach. we want to say what women have already accomplished. it is interesting. there are barriers, whether it is a glass ceiling or concrete roof women are up against. what we're seeing, for example, overseas when women run governments, they are selected via the parliamentary system. they are not put out to popular vote or vote we have here in the united states. so cliques of powerful men are picking them. we see that in bangladesh. i think what we've seen time and again from women they don't want the feminist approach to succeeding.

they want to succeed on their own power and their own skills. we've seen that women running pepsico. women running other companies. most of the women running banking con dplom rats in the me. martha: look what maureen dowd had to say in her maureen dowdish snarky kind of way you might say. she has grandiose plan to become the power point pied piper in prada ankle boots reigniting the women's revolution. betty friedan for digital age. she wants women from stopping and sabotaging themselves. grassroots movements don't start from the top down. they start from the bottom's up in maureen's opinion. >> most of the back lash cheryl received talked about working harder and driving yourself. she has a billion dollars. it is easy for her to have a whole staff sitting at home doing other things. it is difficult to translate that message to woman who have having difficulty

making ends meet when you have somebody at home. martha: she has to acknowledge that. >> you know what i don't get about maureen dowd's column? why is it wrong to wear prada at work and that in some way sabotage as woman. it doesn't. do whatever it takes. also what we found too, is that the women are very, very of course respectful, the working woman and women who choose to stay at home and run families. in fact michelle who runs chile wanted retirement benefits for women who chose to stay home and run families or see the growth of their families and helping their families because she thought that was the most important job at all. but to be sew dismissive about the whatever choice designer to wear at work, so what? i thought that was the wrong place for the column. martha: say that about the man's gucci shoes? that is ridiculous, i agree. >> men have to put up with women have to put up with there would be four-day week already. that is what i say. martha: there are no four-day work weeks here.

>> sure. martha: thanks very much, liz, melissa. thanks so much for being here. bill: she also said in that piece last night that women are not as good at negotiating a contract up front as men are. martha: show said you should smile and say we instead of i when you negotiate a contract. bill: she was about to take the first offer from facebook, i guess it was her husband or brother-in-law said, wait a minute. >> wall street ceo said, listen, men are used to being rejected starting out in the schoolyard when they go up to ask little girls for a it today. women aren't used to that. didn't have the early lessons. there you go. bill: nap time at work, ladies. more companies setting up nap rooms for tired employees after a new survey, a survey now, shows 43% of you rarely get a good night's sleep. one company signing up two 20-minute blocks of time every week. experts say fatigue weighs on productivity. they need ad study for that. martha: okay.

taking a little nap over here. what did you say, bill? bill: i said the spanish had it right. siesta idea. martha: can you imagine if we had two 20-minute, everyone put your head down on your desk. we'll have a little nap. sleep is highly overrated. bill: on fox business, melissa. i will see you 5:00 for your show. >> excellent. bill: you better be great. nancy pelosi raising eyebrows saying president obama always treated republicans with respect. what does karl rove think about that? he is live to react next. martha: and breaking news on the iranian, the american pastor, who was jailed in iran for his faith in one of iran's most brutal prisons. stick around we have breaking news on this coming up at the top of the hour. >> it's living hell. upon arrival they mind fold you. they take you for interrogation. they ask you a few questions. they never like the answers you give. then they take you to the torture room. they tie you up and they

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martha: so the navy's blue angels have been grounded by budget cuts. they were supposed to be the stars of the vidalia on i don't know festival in georgia but the navy canceled the show --. they are one of the casualties of the $5 billion cuts. shows in two other cities called off. on i don't know fest --onion fed for may. never miss the onion festival. bill: let's go flying. new comments from nancy pelosi have some scratching their head especially republicans especially after hearing this. >> president has always been very respectful of the views of republicans in congress, their leadership and membership. he has always tried to accommodate them. this idea you, but for that we would have gotten all the other things done is really not reality. bill: how about that?

karl rove, former senior advisor, deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush. fox contributor, among many other things, crossroads america, american crossroads. >> american crossroads. bill: spring forward. trying to keep up. he has always tried to accommodate them. >> what all terntive universe is she living in? he has not respected republicans from day one. when he came into office republicans came down to make recommendations in the stimulus bill. he dismissed eric cantor, cut him off saying i won. he invited republicans down in february of 2009 and said i want to work with you on health care reform and didn't have another single meeting with them for 51 weeks until he drew them over to the blair house in front of television cameras and tried to bludgeon and embarass them for voting for a bill. he not only questions their policies but gets their motivations. he had a speech on budget

which he invited paul ryan, house republican budget committee chairman sit in the front row and announced his budget preproposal as un-american. when republicans raising soft money for american crossroads, he called it a threat to democracy. wednesday night he is hosting, organizing for action, the old obama campaign for $500,000s a person soft money event and suddenly it is no longer a threat to democracy. bill: why would she talk that way? >> this is woman who ones said famously we have to pass the health care bill before we know what's in it. she lives in different place. she probably came up with this somehow saying getting away with it. everybody in america knows this president has been intensely partisan, incredibly dismissive of his opposition and using not only rhetoric that attacks their policies but continually questions their motivations. look here, this week. here are two memos out from the organizing for action from jim messina and from john carson questioning the

motivations of the republicans in congress. they want to do what they do on the super, on the sequester because they want to protect tax breaks for people who got corporate jets. no, no. that is not civil and not true. bill: she just said he always has been respectful of views of republicans, always. fair share, billionaires, millionaires. you're paying less than your secretary. paul ryan, your ideas are all wrong. >> no, no, look. there's a difference. fine for a president to say i disagree with their policies the thing this man does he questions their motivations. he constructs straw arguments, straw arguments what he claims they're for and then demolishes them. this man has been incredibly disrespectful of the process. bill: there was outreach last week, karl. can republicans trust the president? >> at the same time they're having outreach, sending out, please call your republican member of congress because he wants to throw people, wants to throw seniors off their health care and want to take kids out of head

start. we'll be spending after the sequester, more money on each of those programs this year than we did last year yet the president still continues to do this kind of stuff. bill: but you can't take a tour of the white house. speaker boehner, one more topic here. he was asked in an article, lengthy interview with "the hill" talking about how republicans need to do a better job communicating and engaging with the american people. is he talking about that way because of the presidential results of 2012 or does he see something more fundamental in what they're arguing, whether it is, the debt and deficit spending, whether or not that is sinking in with the american public, or whether the message has to be entirely different in order to strike at the core of -- >> i think there are three things that could be said about this. i think he does believe two things. one is the president has a bigger megaphone than do house republicans. second of all republicans need to do a better job of a unified message in response to that. i hope he is also thinking about this, the republican message even when it is right on deficits, debt, spending and affordable care

act needs to be broader. names to aim what republicans will do and how republicans will foster higher economic growth and ordinary opportunity for ordinary americans. fine, one thing to get our message right in response to what the president is saying. it is more important to have a concrete vision of what we want to do to explain it to ordinary americans in ways they get their hands around that makes a real difference in their lives. bill: good to see you back in new york. >> good to be here. bill: all right. martha. martha: anticipation is growing. the week is finally here. all eyes will be focused on vatican city. the cardinals are set to get together and begin their votes. we're going to talk to the vatican about what they expect next. [ male announcer ] it's a rule of nature.

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bill: here you go, america. starts in new york. the city's ban on large

sugary drinks takes effect tomorrow on tuesday, despite on going legal attempts to overturn it. city inspectors will be armed with 17 ounce measuring cups to make sure restaurants and eateries are --. martha: they will measure them in cups? bill: that's what they say. it is about portion control. inspectors will issue $200 fine if you break the rule. new yorkers can buy supersize drink at supermarket at convenes stores like 7-eleven not regulated by the state. deli, next door, evergreen, i know you go there. they're watching right now. they're none too heap about this coming their way. martha: what is better than a big bucket of soda? that's all i say. nice big cold diet coke. bill: you can do that at home but not evergreen. martha: thanks very much for roll allowing me to do it at home. give me a break. there are new concerns how president obama's health care law will really be implemented. the more we learn about it you will like it, nancy pelosi, you remember that?

let's bring in dr. marc siegel who is looking how all of this will manifest itself in our lives. hey, doctor. >> martha, our seniors have a problem. 2.6 million go home from hospitals only to be readmitted within a month. 2/3 of the time for something other than the problem they had in the first place. we spoke to a top health policy expert at yale who believes doctors focus too much on the reason for admission, not enough on what happens after. here's a solution to what he calls, post-hospital syndrome. >> the idea of teams is believe it or not relatively new in medicine. so for us to succeed, we have to work together, inpatient, outpatient, nurses, doctors, health care workers, health care educators, social workers, nonmedical personnel, we have to have a clear idea what does this patient need to be successful. >> one in five medicare patients has an acute problem a month after hospital discharge that requires them to be readmitted. the his latest research

calls this, post-hospital syndrome and it costs the health care system billions. he believes that even a small reduction of this could save money and save lives. >> the surgery is technically perfect but the rehab doesn't work and there is some problems in the outpatient. six months later people are regretting they had the surgery. or aren't gaining any benefit from it, then what did the surgery accomplish? >> can a health care system afford a all hands on deck to senior care? a health care insurance advocate said hmos anticipated in problem in advance of obamacare. >> health plans focused on the transition from hospital to home, very concertedly over the last few years and have designed systems to help make sure the patient gets what he or she needs at home, to make sure the follow-up visit occurs, to make sure patients are taking their meds. >> i met an 83-year-old

heart patient at yale who hoped her experience coming in and out of hospitals like a yo-yo would soon be over because she was to be a rare recipient of a new procedure to fix her valve without surgery. she is concerned medicare will not cover the cost of possibly having to readmit her. and she's right. martha: a big problem. doctor, thank you very much. >> thanks, martha. bill: there is new outrage after usama bin laden's son-in-law bypasses gitmo for a civilian trial only steps from ground zero. peter king is here on that. martha: we are minutes away from breaking news on the american pastor jailed in a notorious iranian prison. as one woman describe what is her time was like at that same jail. >> it is a place where you dissolve in pain. i forgot my name. i forgot who i was. in that space there is nothing but pain. you're reduced to something that you don't even know what it is. i forgot how to count. i wanted to.

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>> breaking news today on a u.s. fast tore who iu.s. pastor who is locked up in iran in a brutal prison because of his faith. welcome, i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. saeed abedini, a married father of due said he left his boise, idaho home to go to iran e said he was arrested for trying to spread christianity in that country. martha: jordan joins us with breaking news. you have been fighting with more recognition of this for the longtime with the u.s. government. what is your news this morning. >> we'll have a congressional hearing this friday. we found out overt weekend we were asked to participate as well as the pastor's wife in the hearing before the tom l antos

human rights condition which is bipartisan in the house of representatives. many of the members of this commission were part of the bipartisan letter last month to secretary kerry asking him to do more. this is congress doing everything they can, but the administration who has been ignoring them. we will present his case to the commission. the state department has been invited to participate. they will will also be there and subject to the questioning of the members of congress who have asked for more. >> pastor saeed is an american citizen. a lot of people have been shocked that they do not know that there is an american pastor simply was he was a christian. we spoke with his wife several times and she made it clear he was told if he renounced his

christianity he could go home, but he won't do it. how do you think that might change things on friday. >> this can be what we've been working towards, why she is doing the interviews, why we are here, why we take the stories so publicly. his life is in jeopardy. he's suffering from internal bleeding, he is not getting the medical care he needs. we are working on efforts to secure the proper medical treatment. but this congressional action by them taking the action to call the state department before the commission, to call us to testify before the commission, i'll be there sitting next to his wife who every has seen who watches fox news and we'll be presenting this. it's going to be official, and that will then lead to i a direct congressional effort for the administration to answer more questions and to insure that when they say every once in a while through the spokes people of the state department or white house they are doing what they can, they want him to be released, they believe he should be released that they are actually going to start saying, he must be released and that they are actually doing these

efforts. martha: do you think they'll be able to get anywhere with that? the iranian government seems to feel no responsibility to listen to our government on these matters. >> i think they were successful with the high. we are going to go through this at the hearing the number of times the administration spoke out for the hikers. there is a missing fbi agent the administration has no problem speak out. at a minimum we expect for an american citizen as saeed, the government to come and make it leer to iran that this is important. this administration has ignored calls there congress, both the house, bi-partisan calls to do more, and the senate. send graham asked the president to directly get involved. we know that the president hasn't done that. saeed abedini has not got even phone calls from the president. martha: why would the president not be very interested in this issue. >> there is one issue it's controversial because of his religious con srerg. this issue focussess on religion

freedom as well in iran. bus he's a convert and not a political opponent or prisoner of the ra sraoepl in th regime that it's more controversial. i don't see how a pastor being imprisoned in iran is any more important than hikers, ora an fbi agent. he didn't violate any laws to go in. he haas khrao*erd t cleared to go in. i have to thank congressman frank wolf and the cochair of the commission as well, a democratic congressman who has been outspoken, jim mcgovern on massachusetts. martha: he bliss attention to the largest issues, the underground churches around the world where people are being percent kaoulted for carrying out their christian faith. it's so much more we need to be aware of.

thank you, we'll speak with you on friday. >> thanks, martha. bill: just to give you an idea of how long all this has been doing on. abedini game a u.s. citizen through marriage. between 2009 and last year he had traveled to iran safely eight different times to work at his orphanage. on july 28th of last year he was mayed under house arrest by iranian authorities hopbl to be thrown in evin prison a few months later in september after guards railedded his home. january 20th of this year abedini allowed his first and only meeting with an iranian lawyer. he found out his fate a week later when he was sentenced to eight years in prison on charges of distributing national security by creating a network of christian churches in private homes in iran. martha: pastor abedini isn't the only fate we're learning b. former fbi agent robert levinson disappeared in 2007 working as a private investigator.

the foreign minister says they believe that levinson is no longer in iran and they are ready to cooperate to figure out how he disappeared and where he could be now. levinson's received a few photos and a video of him after he vanished. the u.s. has accused iran of sending them, charges that they deny. bill: intelligence experts are now saying that osama bin laden's son-in-law could give us inside information on al-qaida's inner wor workings great basin being held less than a mile from ground zero. peter king is the former chair of the homeland security committee me with now in new york in studio. good morning to you. what is the big issue for you here, civilian trial in new york city. >> let me give tremendous credit to counterterrorism intelligence forces for bringing this about. my concern is not so much the acquittal or the conviction at a

trial it's the fact that we should be getting more intelligence out of him, more information. that's why i think guantanamo is where he should have been bought. he gave a 22 page statement, buy was in osama bin laden's inner circle. we could find out and fill in a lot of blanks. bill: meaning he doesn't have to be taken to a civilian court in order to get information. i'm thinking he was in the hands for the iranians for ten years and then the turks and the jordanians and then the americans i mean this guy has been wrung dry perhaps. and perhaps if that's the case you have enough information to get an easy conviction in a civilian trial. >> it's not the conviction i'm worried about. the fact that he was in iran all those years we could find out what the relationship was between iran and al-qaida, how they did work, what cooperation they have. people think because they are surbgs u.n. tpheurbgs s or

shiites they have no contact. my concern is getting information from him and also setting the precedent of an enemy come patent being tried in a civilian court. stpho: that is understanding. because you know the president does not -- he wants to close gitmo. he's wanted to do that for four-must years. he does not want to continue to populate that prison. if that is the case, do we see more of these men taken to lower manhattan and new york city? >> i think we are. that is a real concern here. this is going to be the same as the khali shao*eub sheik mohammed trial. if he can do it for osama bin laden's son-in-law. he's not entitled to due process. tried as an enemy combatant is where he should be. what we could be missing is the information, the information, the heeds we could have from

those years he was in iran and also from when he was back in osama bin laden stphao. bill: the administration has clearly set its sights on this path. khali sheik mohammed, he wanted to do that and that was rebuffed. what is to stop it. >> mike rogers in the intelligence committee and the house he says he pwhaoefs he belongbelieves he tkpwhropbgs in guantanamo. jenna: john mccain, kelly ayotte, they all think he tkpwhropbgs i belongs in young. x have to find out what we can do, should do, whether it involves more funding. the president is not going to be able to shuck guantanamo. the first executive order he signed in 2009 was to shut guantanamo. all he's done since then is

turned down the commission that he has set up to close guantanamo, so that is gone. guantanamo was there and the commission to a polish guantanamo is not there. so it's going to be there. it's a reality. i think the president should realize that he made a commitment to his liberal base in 2008 but that is over with. as we get these high value detainees we should put them in a military commission to get the intelligence. again i'm sure we'll get a conviction of this guy in federal court but that is not the important issue here. bill: peter king thank you and hope knee that information is gained. >> thank you, bill. bill: whether it's civilian, or military. bill: thank you peter king. 10 minutes past, martha. martha: this story when back drafted is not just some movie. awful scene there. what caused a massive explosion. bill: holy cow. a new surprising warning from a form tsa sergeant, why he says it's not a matter of when terrorists get through security,

it's only a question of time. martha: plus the countdown to a new pope, the likelihood that it could be an american? who is the frontrunner? we will talk with the vatican. >> what we try to do, the eye poll januaries have a beautiful saying, you can only make gnoche with the dough you've got. we say we want to be good dough for the holy shirt to work through. [ female announcer ] from meeting customer needs... to meeting patient needs... ♪ wireless is limitless. [ female announcer ] from finding the best way... ♪ to finding the best catch... ♪ wireless is limitless.

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people, and pray. >> we wish that it will be the next step of catholic church development. i believe they have so much to do in this world. >> it must be so electrifying. just imagine in that today all 115 cardinals that are there celebrated mass in one of the different churches in rome, all of that. how awesome is that. martha: how awesome is that, a lot of reaction on the streets as some catholic worshippers here in the united states look forward to seeing who the next lead der of the catholic church will be. it's part of the growing anticipation. now we know they will get started tomorrow, and they will begin the secret papal election process in vatican city where the world's cardinals have gathered, they are all there now, 115 will be vote nothing this closed-door conclave. greg burke a former vat condition city director is with

us. welcome. >> good to be back. martha: so much speculation over what the church is really looking for. i'm curious what you think about this large 11-member american contingent of card unless and what kind of impact they may have on whether or not this vote goes quickly, or whether it takes a while. >> yeah, the well, it's been interesting the amount of interest in the american contingent. you know, up until now, at least eight years ago they always thought of the americans as very much outsiders, and certainly they still are outsiders in terms of being elected. but what you can see is that they do carry to weight, and that's because i think they reflect the church in the united states, which for all the tkao*euts i tkwao*eut difficulties it has had display a wealthy church, not in terms of money but what it has done, a rich church, what it has done in the country.

and figures such as cardinal dolan, a very funny one. and cardinal o'malley has generated a lot of interest. americans do have an influence here, you can tell in the italian media picking them up, they like that spirit, they like that open, american spirit. whether they can make it a short conclave there is nothing sure there. martha: no, definitely not. you know, and when you look at what appears to be what the cardinals are looking for in a new leader, it requires that kind of american spirit that you're talking about, in terms of the tkpwr tkpwra gregariousness in terms . people. also because american is a super power some think it would be too much to have a person from our country as leader of the catholic church. >> i think that it it is still the legitimate feeling right

now. it's less of an exception. the thought has always been you can't have an american run the oo united nation because of the super power status. here it has changed little bit, america is not the super power it was before, and the positive tphaeult of the church in the us, it has been a very positive effect for others watching how these cardinals act, how they have acted in the past couple of weeks here. it's been very positive for the most part. some people think they are a little bit too american, but that's life, and it is an exciting time for catholics all overt world, though, to tell you the truth. we see this as really a time of great joy, of great hope. martha: what do you think about sort of the reaction. there is so much negativity in this country about this process, so much skepticism. we've all watched closely what the catholic church has been through in recent years ain't doesn't mean in anyway to turn a blind eye to the very real issues and the very real downfall of some aspects of the catholic church, but it has been

thriving too in a way that is not really recognized. and i wonder what the vatican feels can be done about that. >> that's part of my job, martha. we have to work on that, we have to work hard on it. but just like all politics is local i think in the end all church is local too and people may be talking -- seeing this process a lot as a political process, one thing or another but for the great majority of catholics across the globe they love the church, because they see the church what it's doing in their home parish and how it's schools and so many generous people taking care of them spiritually and taking care of hospitals and the great role in education. in terms of things here in rome i think it's often turned into a political horse race. people know in their hearts, they know what the church is. the fact of the matter, even the negative things written, it shows one thing, it shows that the catholic church still very much matters. martha: there's been talk that they almost need to have two

people filling these roles that you need that outreach person, the pope john paul ii, a superstar embracin embracing catholic figure and you need somebody to shake things up at the vatican so we make sure we don't have vatileaks, that need to be dealt w. is there anyway to have that kind of a ticket that you know would be in a charge of running the curia and the more public face in the pope? >> yeah, well you're actually not 0 supposed to make deals in terms of tickets and in the rule book it actually says any promises made are void once the election takes place. however, i think people can get an idea from different bishops, archbishops, cardinals, how they function around the world, how they are, and what you were saying, get the message out, that is a key part it, spreading the message of jesus christ is a key part of the

description. but how they are as managers themselves and choosing their personnel. the cardinals will be look at both those aspects when they do vote. martha: we'll be looking at smoke signals this time tomorrow. greg thank you we look forward. we hope to get to speak with you again as the process proceeds forward. bill: 4:25, i'm just saying -- martha: it could happen on our watch. bill: there is a lawmaker pointing out what he believes to be a major president bush for the president and the white house. why he says the quest for reform will require more than just reaching across the aisle. >> what the president need to do is reach out not just to republicans but to democrats antoine sure that he gives them the political cover to do, frankly, what most of them know need to be done. [ male announcer ] this is the opposite of subliminal advertising...

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controversial one to renovate a college football stadium sparking concerns about the kind of projects used with your tax dollars. dan springer is live in seattle. how are taxpayers being tackled every time this college stadium gets a facelift. >> reporter: all federal taxpayers are helping to build new stadiums and renovating old once to the tunes of hundreds of millions of dollars thanks to tax breaks for tone dares. we will use the $200 million renovation of husky stadium at washington as an exexample. rich alums make massive donations and get preferred seating and club alaska ses. they also get to right it after. in one project it's $134 million

over 50 years. the director makes no apologies. >> this is one person's charity, another person's give away. >> reporter: he prefers giving charity right office to the arts but here the entertainment is a football game. bill: is there any effort in congress to scrutinize the tax breaks here, dan? >> reporter: well not a serious one. the senate finance committee promised hearings on reforming the tax code, but passing -- parsing what donations are truly charity and what is not is not on the radar even though the amount of money we are talking about is growing at sort of an arm's rate as college football programs accelerate. 17 will kwropb dollar $17 billion have been spent on college football stadiums over the past decades. they are paying coaches millions of dollars. >> everything need to be looked at right now, in terms of where we are losing revenue. that should include charitable

donations and where they are really going for. >> reporter: charity write offs cause the treasury $36 quadrillion in 2011. 20% of that was given to universities. bill: more than football on the line. from seattle today. 27 past. martha. martha: congressman paul ryan talking about his new budget plan to get debt under control. how the president's healthcare plan is at the center of that. plus, watch out. bill: that is an explosion at a house. what sparked this. woe, details next.

bill: here is a scary deal, watch this here. [sound of explosion] >> that is cellphone video that shows a massive back draft explosion at a house fire in new jersey. see that firefighter there taken out right in the doorway. the blast injured five firefighters who were taken to the hospital, one with serious cuts and another with chest pains. in addition to the injured firefighters six families from that home have been displaced. martha: back to washington now, and congressman paul ryan is preparing to unveil a new budget plan, one that takes aim really at repealing president obama's signature healthcare law as its centerpiece. we are joined by chief national correspondent jim angle live in our washington pwraour oefplt goobureau. >> reporter: paul ryan presents

a new plan that aims for balance in 2023. one way he gets there he says is to repeal 0 obamacare. >> we believe that obamacare is a program that will not work. we believe obama care will actually lead to hospitals and doctors and healthcare providers turning people away. >> reporter: because the president financed obama care in part with $716 billion in cuts to providers and medicare was already if deep financial trouble. listen. >> you have to remember, all that money that was taken from medicare was to pay for obama care. we say we get rid of obama care, we end the raid and we apply those savings to medicare to make more medicare and extent the volume advance see of the medicare trust fund,. >> reporter: president obama made cuts to obama care to make obama care nor neutral. budget hawks agree that the president's action left medicare and the federal budget in worse shape because you can't spend

the same dollars twice. >> it didn't actually bring down the cost of medicare, which means there is a lot more savings that have to be done and we've used the savings to offset the care of new federal spending. >> reporter: ryan's budget would not cut federal spending it would reduce the rate of increase. president obama's called for 46 preul kwropb more spending over the next ten years. ryan would reduce it to 41 trillion instead. repealing obama care is unlikely to get throughout senate, but raising the issue of how much the t-t took from obama care to make medicare look revenue neutral could make a program that is already unpopular even more so. a a majority of people want to repeal hall or part of the president's plan, says most polls. martha: only in washington can you spend money you haven't saved yet. very interesting. >> reporter: absolutely, you bet. bill: the president may have another problem on his hands.

republican senator rob portman out of ohio saying that the president need to work with democrats in order to get reform passed. listen. >> he hughesed to do his reach out not just to republicans with you to democrats and insure that he gives them the political cover to do frankly what most of them know need to be done. in order to do what we have to do in a relatively short period of time because i think the window is pretty short here, i think it's by the end of this year the president has a big role to play. meeting with republicans is fine but frankly i think it's more important to reach out to democrats, insure that they know he'll have their back and reach out to the american people. bill: he said a lot in that comment. kristen powers, columnist daily beast. tony saeg, columnist. tony, what is senator portman trying to communicate there? >> he's pointing out the obvious, which was also corroborated by a political story today, which is that if the president wants a grand

barring began and all indication -gs are late is that he is eager to achieve one by working with republicans he'll have to put in a meaningful way more entitlement reform on the table. in order to accomplish that he has to get democrats with him and take them along that path. bill: suggesting that democrats aren't necessarily on board. >> reporter: well 107 of 200 democratic congressmen, bill wrote a letter to the president and said we will reject any and every cut to medicare, medicaid and social security. this is their kind of inch tran gentleman gent moment. remember the tax hike fiscal cliff conversation republicans are accused of being slaves to tkpwroefr norquist and the antitax pledge. bill: let me get kirsten on. is he right about the intrangience? is that really pushing the boulder up the hill. >> yeah, that was the exact

analogy i was going to use, the tax purity test of republicans. its the same on the left, they just staked out this very unreasonable position on entitlements, the base of the party, sort of following the paul krugman line, which is we don't have a problem, but if we have a problem it's ten years out. even if you bought into that idea it doesn't mean they shouldn't be doing something about it now. the idea that somehow in ten years they are going to snap their fingers and get everything done is ridiculous. bill: have democrats opened the door to the possibility of negotiating entitlements or not? >> the president said i think in his press conference during this sequester negotiations that he knew he needed to start talking to democrats about this. debbie wasserman schultz said yesterday on one of the sunday shows that she was open to it. you are hearing these kind of statements, but they haven't suffered the backlash yet that they are going to get if they go down this road, and i think that it's going to be very hard to

bring democrats around on this issue. bill: what portman said is the president need to give them political cover to do this. what kind of cover could he offer? >> well, showing the leadership that he's willing to make those bold choices ahead of them so they don't suffer any electoral consequence tpres the democratic more progressive base. the president has gone on the record and said he'd consider or at least be open-minded to means testing entitlements, which basically means the wealth year you are the less men about it you get from that. he said he'd consider the readjustment of the consumer price index which the bowles-simpson commission said could save over 300 billion in ten years for entitlement spending. he went on the record and said, i'll consider them. we haven't seen him endorsing an actual plan like a bowles-simpson which goes towards a meaningful road to specifically outline cuts and entitlements. bill: he has kirsten?

his fiscal cliff had chained cpi in it. it had a lot of saving reforms including means testing. you just said that he hasn't put anything out, he has, and he has also done it in his fiscal year 13 budget. i think the fact he has done that is north worthy and we shouldn't pretend that he hasn't. the question is if he can bring democrats along and get them to vote for it i think will be the problem. bill: one more point on this. and we saw the outreach last week with republicans, and you wonder if the same is going to happen now with democrats. tony should republicans trust the outreach or should they are carry are about it's the follow-up and the follow through that truly counts. >> that's what reagan used to say about the soviet, trust but verify. the president seems to have had interest working with the republicans much more the past two weeks since this whole sequestration debacle did not work in his favor.

i actually think and i did allow the president back to the point for putting these ideas on the table. a plan and bring democrats with him. he only has a narrow period of time where he has the political capital to do so. the reason rob portman said -- the august 2013 is when we'll be revisiting the whole debt ceiling. bill: in the meantime keurs teen has steam coming out of her ears. >> how much more of an endorsement of a plan can you make other than putting out a budget and putting out the fiscal cliff. go to white house.gov and see his fiscal cliff pweupblt. >> go to "the washington post" -- >> i don't care what "the washington post" says. does he or does he not on his website have a proposal for his fiscal cliff deal that states these things? that is endorsing a plan. stop saying he hasn't endorsed it. it's in his budget. its just bizarre.

>> "the washington post" sales he has -pbt been specific enough as of yesterday apartments editorial. >> you keep saying that he has not endorsed a plan, that is false. completely false. >> let's get the democrats on board. bill: we'll check it out. you don't want me to go on combs do you. i was waiting for that from kirsten. see you tony. martha: weekend drivers getting held up by a tph-rpl disaster where this white wall of snow shut down a major highway. and growing outrage for u.s. air travelers, after one whistle-blower suggests that the tsa agents behind those oh, so pleasant pat-down experiences are doing little if anything to help keep you safe. big report coming up. >> i don't want to be coaching terrorists to try to get on these planes. we have not had anyone get on a plane successfully with an explosive device in the united states for the last eleven and a half years, so something is

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bill: fox news alert right now getting word out of detroit a jury convict being the former mayor of that city, kwame kilpatrick moments ago on corruption charges after a five-month trial that portrayed him as agreed depolitician who took bribes and fixed contracts in the city and lived far beyond his salary. kwame kilpatrick, a fall from grace, truly in detroit just moments ago. martha: a former tsa screener at a major u.s. airport is now speaking out, and it is big. he says that newark international's airport is actually doing very little to stop any terror threats that would be going through that airport. last week you may remember a federal inspector made his way through two security screenings with a fake bomb in his pants and a former agent says this, quote, we always said that it's not a question if terrorists get through, it's a question of

when. our feeling is nothing has happened because they haven't wanted it to happen. we are not, he's talking about the tsa, any big deterrent. it is all for show. how does that make you feel about trafg throug through the airports joined by peter gold, administrator of the airports. what do you think about this? >> it has been a rough week for tsa. you have the red team getting the bomb through. you have whistle-blower accounts of incompetent and nonperformance, then you've got the proposed new rule to allow knives back in the cockpit. i think the administrator of tsa is going to spend a lot of time before congress in the next three months explaining himself. >> he went onto detail what it's like to work for the tsa in his opinion at newark airport, he

says people are sleeping on the job, the education level is very low. he says when janet napolitano says we have a great defense at tsa she is kid nothing his opinion. it makes it looks like the $7.8 billion of taxpayer money that goes into the tsa is a big waste of money. should we rethink the whole say that we are going about this, peter? stpheu think the whistle-blower is pointing out just one aspect of tsa and it really is not a surprise. we've always known that working at these checkpoints is mind numbing, but there are two places where i think the tsa needs to do better. they promised us years ago a check-point of the future, the idea was we were going to have technology that would make sure that human failings would not allow bombs and other dangerous devices to get through. we don't have that yet.

we still have a layered approach to our defense on the aircraft. it's not just the check-point. that is one of the last lines of defense. the armored door and the dock peult is thand the cockpit is the very last line. i think we could usary view of this agency. >> we had the story last week about $50 million being spent on new tsa uniforms. you ask yourself is there a better way to go about it. we've heard about private security operations, some of the nation's airports opted to hire private groups. then you go back to the very sticky questions of profiling, of asking people questions as they go through, if they arouse suspicion for any reason pulling them out of line and not doing random checks that leave us with little kid and people in wheelchairs the horrific stories of them getting checked and then you have richard reid who gets on the plane with no problem and it was a passenger that took him down, tsa had nothing to tkwo that. >> you're absolutely right.

on two points one particular, one is this touchy issue of profiling. we cannot continue to pretend that we can't or shouldn't proceed vial potential terrorists. we need to use that in our procedures. secondly, you know, this is such a frustrating argument that there are so many people standing around, as you say 7.8 billion, are we really getsin getting the best and most efficient security? remember, prior to 9/11 the checkpoints were all privatized. i don't know if going back is the right race but ep certainly raising the standards at the checkpoints is something we ought to look at seriously. martha: we have to keep some focus on this issue. thank you for helping us do that gay. peter goelz, thanks for talking with us. bill: jon scott standing by eleven minutes away how are you doing. jon: i am doing well. the president wants more revenue, republicans want more

federal spending. are we getting closer to the so-called grand bargain? an indication on sunday shows that positions are softening. is the president's charm offensive paying dividends? and why is he suddenly reaching out. we'll talk about it with bret baier, plus the revealing interview that roll call just did with speaker of the house john boehner, david drucker joins us with that. north korea's new threats. the ugly become and forth with afghanistan. the middle east as a breeding ground for disease. and get this. mummies with heart disease. it's all happening now, or a few centuries ago. bill: you'll need four hours or that, jon. not what you want to see in your driveway, a massive sinkhole force ago family out of their home and -pt threat i the threat is not over, not by a long shot. >> it's pretty upsetting to see your driveway start to fall into a hole. >> they said, oh you should be safe unless you here creeking or

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martha: a family forced out of their home after a massive sinkhole sinks their driveway. here we go again. this is not in florida, this is in pennsylvania. two smaller sinkholes discovered earlier this week on the same street following sewer work after a water main break. they don't know if the work led to the sinkholes, and says other families could also be forced out of their homes. bill: not in florida. tiger woods just had a fantastic week on the golf course. [cheering r- [cheering] >> he one his second pga of the season. jim gray sportscaster and fox

news contributor with us now. i watched a lot of this over the weekend. i think the one thing i took away from everybody who was talking about him and his life right now is how committed he is to putting in the hard work to get him back online. what is your take? >> well he spent an awful loft time rebuilding his swing with shaun foley. it seems to be paying off e. asked everybody to be patient. he's won five times now in the calendar year, twice this season. nobody on the tour, bill has done that. bill: in figurer's world the majors are what matters. i mean, these are wonderful tournaments, miami, but it's augusta, the masters, the british open, the u.s. open, the pga championship. if he h does not win one of those four tournaments in a calendar year the guy is not reaching his own goals that he set up. >> that's correct an hasn't one since 2008. down the road here at torrey

pines in khrafrbgs outside of san diego, hasn't won a major since then. it will be four years, this will be his fifth year. he's won at augusta four times. it's one month from today and it looks like he's rounded into form. bill: what do you think about the scandals that have plagued him, is that behind him now? >> i think it's in the rear view mirror e. has tremendous confidence. obviously the president felt comfortable to go play golf with him. i think it's all behind him. he seems to have put that in a place in his life, his golf is terrific right now. we don't hear much about hit off the course any more. it seems like he's getting along well with his kids and i think the public wants to see him play great golf. i think that's what they are interested in and that's what he's giving them. bill: for him on the course part of the reason that he wins or did win, the other player is like here he comes he's going to beat me again and it was pure intimidation. has he got even back to that form do you believe yet, or not quite?

>> i don't think so. i don't think we'll ever see that again. i think a lot of these guys are so much younger that he never was able to inc intimidate them because they were down on the course with him. rory mcelroy has struggled, he's currently the number one. he walked off the force a week ago, played very well on sunday. i don't think that he thinks about what tiger is going to do to him and i don't think a lot of the guys coming up now think that way. and tiger's dominance was no great at that time that all he really had to do is show up because he was so great that the others couldn't compete. i think that's changed right a bit now. bill: what he'll say is he's healthy. as long as the knee holds out there is a great season awaiting him. thank you, jim, good to see you again. jim gray in california. >> thanks, bill, good to be with you. martha: speaker of the house john boehner in a new interview, what he says republicans need to do to focus onto do a better job, right after this.