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watch in amazement. we've learned that person parts of an er portend much more danger. an abuser attempt today strangle his victim if he's threatened to shoot her, if he's sexually assaulted her and a number of other signs, these are telltale signs to say this isn't your garden variety slap across the face, which is totally unacceptable in and of itself. >> sean: garden variety slap across the face? sounds like the war on women is back. maybe crazy uncle joe could use mitt romney's binders. i'm pretty speechless and while i can appreciate the last second disclaimer, he caught himself about the garden variety slapping, being totally unacceptable. this was really the best comparison to draw? by the way, president obama surrender your teleprompter and gift it to vice-president biden, this is the best way to avoid future embarrassing

moments. that's all the time we have left this evening. as always, thank you for being with us. let not your heart be troubled. gr greta is next to go on the record. we'll be here tomorrow night. >> tonight, your government has gone off the deep end. we're going to show you what you're expected to fill out for obamacare. plus, the national debt is more than 16 trillion dollars, does that sound like a crisis to you? >> we don't have an immediate crisis in terms of debt. >> we don't have an immediate crisis in terms of debt. >> there is a long-term debt challenge and everybody recognizes it. >> we don't have an immediate crisis in terms of debt. in fact, for the next ten years it's going to be in a sustainable place. >> i fear that obama succeeding would result in america's failure and it's happening. >> the president believes that bipartisan cooperation is possible. >> ultimately it may be that the differences are just too wide. >> you have to put forward proposals to demonstrate his commitment to making tough

choices, to meeting republicans halfway. >> my goal is not to chase a balanced budget just for the sake of balance. >> i want to go back to president obama with stephanopoulos answering the question about the white house tours and why did the white house decide to do it? >> this was not a decision that went up to the white house. >> the amazing thing is that jay carney contradicted his boss within eight hours. >> we had to cancel the tours. it's our job to cancel the tours, they can the not cancel them. so, because this is not a tour of the building, this is a tour of the white house and grounds. >> some say it's unseemly to accuse a president of lying, and it may be unseemly. people don't want to believe that, but that's exactly what happened here. >> and today for the first time since 2010, house republicans confronting president obama as a group, but it was an exchange between the president and a former

illinois colleague grabbed everyone's attention. and going toe to toe with president obama, nice to see you. >> thanks, greta. >> you served with the president in the illinois government. >> we were in the illinois senate for years. >> and today it's reported you gave him a hard time that congress fears he's leading our nation to the same financial bankruptcy as illinois has. >> yes, look, when house republicans and i think most of the country, greta, hear the president's articulated view of the economy, they hear the same rhetoric that led illinois to be a financial basket case. chase revenues, the revenues underperform. don't deal with the underlying spending problems and now what's going on in illinois? almost 10 billion dollars in unpaid bills, almost the second highest per capita debt of any state in the union, higher than average unemployment rate, a downgrade in the credit rating and all of these things are exactly what president obama portends as he articulates he needs more and more and more reven

revenue. when you said that to him what did he say? >> look, barack obama is an incredibly skilled guy as relates to these types of questions. when it came down to it, he doesn't have an answer because there is no answer. >> what did he say to you? >> he said oh, it's a bipartisan problem in illinois and goes back and wants to relitigate illinois history, but i think what his challenge is, how to create a bipartisan agenda in this -- in this town when what he's doing is redefining terms. so, he's redefining tax reform not the traditional word of tax reform, meaning you lower rates and use that to close loopholes to lower rates. he wants to use it to say, well, we're going to close loopholes to pay for more spending. >> congressman tom price and why no budget. what was his explanation, why he has no budget. the senate has a budget and the house has a budget. >> again, he had a very difficult time answering that question. >> what did he say? >> i mean, it was like, look,

you've listened to him. he's got no substantive answer when tom price-- >> what did he say, i'm too busy or they're working on it? >> look, it's going to come and avoiding eye contact, a couple of weeks. well, it's late already and he was challenged in the meeting, are you presenting this late on a rope-a-dope effort after we passed the budget that paul ryan is leading us on? it's all of those sorts of things and here this was a big attempt to try and bring people together. i thought, look, our members respect the presidency and we're respectful of him in that opportunity, but he didn't follow through on these core things. >> how did he act to langford who asked him whether he's just campaigning and that his only goal to defeat the republicans in the the house? >> he didn't cancel his event tonight going to organizing for america and also got a -- you know, if you're trying to build confidence don't go and say, my first job on election night is to call nancy pelosi and make a commitment that i'm going to thin the herd of the

very people that i'm coming over here. >> how did he answer it when he was asked. did he say, no, i'm not campaigning. i'm out there speaking to the people. >> he said the organization for america is now a policy driven effort and i'm going to campaign for democrats in the future and dismissive of reaching out to the democratic congressional campaign committee and to nancy pelosi and essentially made an argument, look, this is my job. this is what i'm going to do. rub some dirt on it and get over it. meanwhile, our folks are hearing how, how are you using this office to create an environment where we're trying to work together to come up with remedies that our country is desperately-- >> when he walked out of the meeting, did he think that went well, this went average or hit the skids? >> look, i think the president lives sort of the happy life of low expectations when it comes to interacting with house republicans. we were gracious, we were courteous, we were respectful,

but our members were very clear that we're not going to be pursuing this revenue trap where he continues to be articulating that the only way you can solve this problem is by revenue. dave camp, chairman. ways and means committee posed a great question. he said, look, there's common ground, mr. president, if you say you're in favor of changes on medicare, we don't know what his changes are, if he's in favor of them and says he is, then let's pass those rather than waiting. let's move forward on the common ground. >> and he said? >> he said no. my argument is barack obama is clearer on revenue than his demand for revenues, than he is on, you know, our policies as it relates to iran. there's more clarity about his desire for more revenue than any other theme coming out of his administration. >> congressman, thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> and coming up, yes, he really side president obama saying we don't have an immediate crisis in terms of debt.

senator john thune is on the finance committee. what do you think of that statement, is there an immediate crisis or not? >> it's amazing what a deaf ear the president has to what's going on around us. 16.7 trillion dollars in debt will add 10 trillion dollars to it over the next decade and while the president's been in office we've added 6 trillion dollars to the debt and he also made the comment, in the last couple of days, that he didn't want to balance the budget just for sake of balancing the budget. why else weren't you balance the budget? you balance the budget because you've got to get control of the run away spending and the run away debt and he keeps piling on more and more spending and now, they want yet even much higher taxes. >> why do you think he said that? do you think they sort of-- was careless in his speech and thinking immediate, meaning he's got other more important things like social security, or medicare, i mean, those are the things we could probably-- that's a problem in a month and may not be immediate. i mean, why do you think he used that term immediate. is that sloppy or the way he thinks that this is not a serious problem?

>> my view it's the way he really thinks. i think that he and many like him, many democrats on capitol hill, for that matter, don't think of this as a debt crisis because things haven't imploded yet, but that's going to happen. if we continue on the path that we're on. it's not a question of if, it's a question of when. what the president ought to be focusing on working on reforms that will rein in out of control spending and secondly, putting policies in place that will grow the economy. one of the things we need is to get the economy growing at a faster rate. when you're growing at 1 1/2 to 2% and frankly, in the four-year average since he's been president, 8/10 of 1%. .8% has been the average economic growth. if we don't get economic growth and spending under control this thing gets progressively worse and spiraling out of control. >> he hasn't submitted a budget and frankly, i don't know why. the house has been able to get one together and so has the senate. do you need a budget from him to begin working and trying to reconcile the house and senate

budget? do you have to have a budget from him? >> not necessarily, but it usually leads the process. this is the first time in 92 years, 92 years that the president hasn't submitted his budget before the house and the senate have acted on theirs. and so the good news in the senate, this is a historic day, after all. the first time in four years the senate unveiled, senate democrats unveiled their budget today. the bad news, it raises taxes by 1.7 trillion dollars, and it's a -- if the budget doesn't balance in ten years, it's something when the american people get a close look at it and they compare that with what the house is doing in terms of trying to rein in spending and have a responsible approach to our federal budget process, there's going to be a real clear contrast and i think the american people will pick up on that. what i believe, the president continues to believe that we need to grow the economy-- or grow the government. we we believe we need to grow the economy. and miss policies, grow the government at the expense of growing the economy. >> you know what i think is

also peculiar about the budget path to prosperity the republicans budget and the senate came out foundation for growth restoring the promise of american opportunity. what's wrong with just saying the senate budget and the house budget. you guys jazz up these names, sort of like you package the branded and i think the american people, they just want a budget. >> just give me a budget. well, it's pretty straight forward and most americans deal with that and i think that most americans also realize that they could live on what the house budget has proposed, 3.4% increase in spending over the next ten years, but it's 4 1/2 trillion dollars less in spending than what the senate democrats are putting forward and the senate democrat budget 1.5 trillion dollars tax increase on top of the 1.7 trillion dollar tax increase we've already seen out of the administration. >> they're going to through closing loopholes and deductions, right? i mean, that's the way the budget is. it's not like all of a sudden the rates are going up, at

least as i understand the senate budget? >> somebody's going to pay higher taxes because it it doesn't matter how you define that. when you're talking about whether closing loopholes or talking about rates and taxes to pay more taxes, we believe that-- >>, but the loopholes, someone got a bargain because someone got a lobbyist to persuade you guys to give that person a loophole? >> the point is you shouldn't have to raise taxes until you deal with spending and the president's got tax increases, 620 billion dollars in the fiscal cliff, 1 trillion dollars in new taxes with obamacare and now he wants another 1.5 trillion dollars in taxes. when are we going to deal with the spending? and that's what i think the american people want to see. and so when they talk about closing loopholes, we're all for that, but let's do it in the context of tax reform that lowers rates in a revenue neutral way, not in a way that increases the amount of tax revenue coming into the federal treasury at a time when we've got out of control spending and federal revenues are already going up. >> the president is going to

have lunch with the senators, republican senators, right? >> right, that's right, yeah. >> you've got a question for him? what are you going to ask him. >> i'd of love to hear the president's answer why he doesn't believe we have a debt crisis or why he doesn't believe we have a spending problem? you continue to hear leading democrats in the congress and president talking about no debt crisis, no spending problem. don't need to balance the budgets in ten years. we're facing a train wreck if we don't get this thing turned around and i think that the president hopefully when he comes tomorrow will at least listen to what we have to say and hopefully act on it, but-- >> i hope you ask that question and come back and tell us what he said. >> that would be the triumph hope over experience, but we'll give it our best shot. >> good, thanks, sir. >> thanks, greta. >> what do you think about president obama saying we don't have an immediate crisis in terms of debt. do you think there's a debt crisis or not? go to gretawire.com and tell us. >> now to the sequester, cuts are causing pain across the

country, but not in one place,e freshman representative wants to put an end to that, congressman, you have a plan to make congress feel some of the pain of the what's your plan? >> well, my plan is simple. i think that the sequester should simply apply to our pay. we are somehow exempted from that, so you see other members of the federal work force, you see members of the congressional staff may have to get pay cuts depending how the budgets work and i think it's part of being a republican form of government that we're not exempting ourselves from the operation of laws. so, it's a small money saver, but i think it speaks to a larger principle. >> and i guess under the constitution you can't do it. you have it wait. you can't adjust your salaries, congressional salaries until the next term, right? you can pass it now, but-- >> until the next election, this would take effect right after the next election and really, that the 27th amendment was put there to prevent pay increases, but we have to abide by the text of i don't want to lose support for the bill by raising the 27th amendment issue. >> what's sort of interesting,

this is bipartisan, and you have a democrat on board with you. >> barra from california and i think it speaks to frustration that people have with congress. for example, we talked about the whole issue not doing a budget. required by law and haven't for four years and because we shamed them with the no budget, no pay, they've done a budget. so i think it's the idea na the american people, they have to avoid by rules fthey don't abide by rules there's consequences and us up here, what, are we a separate ruling class that doesn't have to do that? and obviously, i think that's wrong. >> actually, i've been harping on american people, taking vacations without getting work done. continuing resolutions and blowing off the deadlines. i think your bill is like one of the few instances okay, we're asking this of the american people and we're going to ask this of ourselves, too. >> absolutely. why would you exempt yourself from this? look, i believe we need to cut spending so i'm not arguing against spending cuts

generally, i'm arguing against us getting a special exemption. >> and besides the democratic congressman from california any others? >> i think you'll see a lot of people join, particularly folks who are relatively new to congress, either 2010 or 2012 class, because i think we have a bipartisan desire to change the way congress functions. >> how do you-- i mean, the reason i ask you how you started talks with the democrats. typically democrats and republicans don't speak in this city and there isn't much bipartisanship. how did you manage to sort of work this out so the two of you are working together on it. >> i had asked him because we both support no budget no pay. you're supposed to do a budget, if you don't do it, you shouldn't get paid and that's something that we've signed on to previously and i thought this was a similar congressional accountability. >> and he thought it was a good idea. >> yeah, we've got to hold ourselves accountable. you gain credibility with the

public if you live by the same rules, guess what, then they're willing to listen to you on other things and think you're there for the right reason. congress has an opportunity to do something, the american people say you know what? maybe they are start to go change. >> is he getting heat from his leadership and you're getting heat from your leadership? >> i haven't gotten hit from anybody, but i did it because i thought it was the right thing to do. >> and now that you're here in washington, what do you think about this? is this the-- i mean, what do you think about what's going on here? >> well, you and i talked before the show. >> i know. >> how legislation works, like, the average person, average member of congress can't really understand the bills that are put forward there because they're complicated, they reference all of these other statutes and i think that we've just moved away from a government where people can really participate, scrutinize legislation and offer their opinions. so, it's a little frustrating to see. it goes beyond just being a lawyer. i mean, you need to be a lawyer, a researcher, you need to be all of these things.

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>> the obama administration has just outdone itself. wait until you see the forms for obamacare, the one they expect you to fill out. washington examiner political correspondent byron york joins us. byron, tell me what do we have here? >> if you thought obamacare was simple you have another think coming. >> greta: dilutional. >> it's for coverage to be covered under the exchange that may be formed in your state or to actually receive subsidies because obamacare provides subsidies for

millions and millions of people under this system. what i think most people don't understand, the form is kind of like filling out another tax return. and i think what most people may not understand is that the irs, the internal revenue service is the thing that makes the system work. everybody is going to have to prove to the irs that they have health insurance and it's health insurance that qualifies under the department of health and human services standards and you'll do that if you have health insurance on the job and maybe get something like a 1099 form to show that to them and if you're buying it and if you qualify for subsidies, you have to give them all of this information about your job, about your hourly rate, what other kind of income do you pay alimony, do you get alimony, all of this stuff. the tax returns, same thing for obamacare. >> greta: i tell you what i think is almost insane, it's first that you have this application almost 15 pages long, which is, you know, which is no one is going to sit down and unless i have to fill it out. the second one more appalling, the 61-page application if you

need extra help, if you need a subsidy from the government they expect people looking for money to fill out 61 pages and frankly gone through it and i s sarcastically you need a degree from mit to fill it out. one section is optional, but ask you, is the ethnicity and race and they want to know what your background is, whether you're asian, indian, black, chinese, filipino or whatever because they said that that will help them understand and improve the health and health care for all americans. what that has to do with improving the health and health care for all americans is beyond me. the form isn't about that, it's about whether you're financially eligible for a subsidy they have the stupid questions that don't go to the issue. >> the personal information that the irs has about all taxpayers. the irs is forbidden by law from sharing that even other

agencies. fur h if you're a member of congress you can't call up and ask about someone's tax return. and they've knocked out that the department of health and human services can get irs information from you. if you're talking about a subsidy and if you qualify for a subsidy, they have to prove that really you're not overstating or understating your income. and if your job changes, if you get a raise, a cut in pay, if you change jobs, you have to keep them informed at all times of any changes in your status because that could affect your subsidy. >> greta: well, even the-- i mean, i'm just looking at these things, you know. i don't know who is going to be able to fill them out. we're probably going to have to hire a bunch of people to help them fill them out. >> they're going to employ thousands and thousands of navigators to help the publicing. >> then we've got to have thousands and thousands and thousands to receive them on the other side to make a judgment about subsidy, more government employees to make that judgment and i assume there are going to be irs

employees. >> yes. >> so the irs, and all of a sudden explode the irs and give them more employees to fill the 61 pages of questions and most are not helpful and very complicated and this is supposed to be an easy deal and it's designed to help-- to assist the very people who probably, you know, are in deep trouble. >> there's no doubt this is complex and seems senator mcconnell the minority leader in the senate going on the floor yesterday and saying that obamacare passed 20,000 pages of actual regulations how it will work. >> greta: and a 2800 page bill. and the 20,000 regulations aren't put together by the people we elected, but they're put by hhs government employees whose names we don't know and who we've never met, never elected so we've got that to deal with. >> on the other hand, this is something that the entire public should have known. it's a big country, 315 million people. you can't undertake something like this without an enormous bureaucracy and that's what the obama administration is gearing up right now.

>> greta: well, you know, it's -- i really want health care for every american, but when you have such incredible bureaucracy and put this kind of burden on people who aren't going to be able to fill this out and huge bureaucracies, you're not helping, not making it easier, not providing health care, you're giving busy work to people. >> and that's apart from setting up the exchanges going by october 1st which is not very far from now. >> greta: any idea how many people are going to hire into the irs? >> that's a great question. that was kicked around a lot during the passage, the debate over obamacare and the irs always kind of minimized that number, but clearly, the irs is the only organization in the entire government that has the structure already in place for getting people's income and checking all of these things against each other. so the irs is going to be really the center piece of obamacare. >> greta: i wonder how the 61-page form that i think is appalling, that people who are

financial need are going to fill out, i'm wondering who wrote that form. what, did we outsource it, probably contracted to some organization and asking the guess, now, it's appalling, absolutely appalling and hurts people, that's the worst part. >> it is, thank you. >> byron nice to he see you and now i'm really worried about obamacare, but this is about your pets. the impact of health care law on dogs and cats. how can that be? well, obamacare includes a federal tax on medical devices, the actitax applies to supplies used on people and pets. and that's not the only bad side effects of the device tax. some vets say they'll have to put off buying equipment and that could affect your pet's medical care. coming up accused killer jodi arias going to battle with the prosecutor and each will refuse to give in and you'll hear the heated exchanges and hear from our legal panel next. and governor chris christie is taking on a heckler, guess who

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>> accused killer jodi arias is spending her 18th day on the witness stand. the woman acued of shooting, stabbing and slitting her ex-boyfriend's throat. answering more questions from an arizona jury and arias sparring with the prosecutor about they are memory lapses and her version of how she killed her ex-boyfriend,

travis alexander. >> right? >> that's what i remember saying, yes. >> and again, are you having any memory problems today? >> not that i'm aware of. >> well, again, who else would be aware of you having any memory problems other than you? >> objection, your honor-- >> well, you seem to imply that i am so-- >> i'm not implying thinking. i want to you tell me whether or not you're having any memory problems right now. >> well, i've already answered that said not that i'm aware of. >> and the information that you told us about mr. alexander, telling that the gun was unloaded you believed it was unloaded and you were getting that gun. what were you going to do with it if it was unloaded. >> i was just thinking of pointing it at him because i know personally if a gun was pointed at me my first instinct was going to be to stop and that's what i wanted him to do. >> but if he had already told you that it was unloaded, why would you believe that he was

going to stop if he had just told you-- if he had previously told you it was unloaded? >> it was just a hope because that's my philosophy about if i had to look at the end of a barrel of a gun i would stop and i didn't have time to sit and rationalize whether or not he would care whether it was unloaded or loaded or what, i didn't know. i just wanted him to stop. >> then he came after you into the bathroom and then you pointed it, in your opinion-- and your testimony is that you were just pointing the gun at him when he came at you, right? >> yes. >> you would agree that it requires you to put your finger on the trigger and pull it for it to fire, right? >> that's my understanding, yes. >> well, you were there, right. >> yes. >> and so you fired the gun, you shot him in the head, and then you killed him, right? >> objection, your honor, mischaracterizes-- >> right?

>> yes. >> greta: and anchor troy hayden was in the courtroom today and joining us jim hammer, and bernie grimm and ted williams. troy, this has been going on and on and on and on. >> i know. >> greta: no kidding. at any point in this continued examination, cross examination by the prosecutor today was just beating a dead horse at this point? >> if you asked the jury i think they'd said yes. they looked like they had had it with jodi's testimony. and a lot of annoyed looks on their faces and sitting back in the chairs, armed crossed and they asked new questions today hitting on memories discrepancies of her story and i don't think many believe her at this point and i think she's in big trouble. >> so what's tomorrow, the defense calls experts? >> yeah, expert witness on battered women's syndrome and explain why jody had the fog and couldn't remember a lot after the initial shooting.

at this point man, they're climbing a steep hill. i don't think that the jury is buying jodi's story and have to wait and see the verdict, but i don't know what they could do to see that. >> and sometimes they ask too many questions. i thought that mark martinez was a pit bull and could turn off the jury. troy, can you tell us how was the jury reacting today to the examination after 18 days, over 5,000 questions, 230 asked by the jury? >> well, they were turned off, especially when they're doing that give and take and frankly, i'm surprised, along with a lot of people in the courtroom, that jodi hasn't played the battered witness. and everybody knew that juan martinez was going after. >> and she didn't cry and say why are you doing this. >> greta: and the client, some clients aren't sympathetic. >> it's amazing, she's so

dispassionate and devoid of emotion. >> troy, does the jury look at her and bizarre looks, why isn't she emotional, crying, scared, upset? >> that was early on in the testimony, especially in cross examination. i believe some of them were sympathetic early on when the defense was questioning her, but as soon as the prosecution got to her, they were sitting back more, body language saying, well, wait a second, doesn't make sense, and if you look at the jury questions. >> troy, one more question. all the paper work says it's in phoenix, arizona. it's not in los angeles, is it, where the examinations go on forever and ever and ever and lattes and-- >> and jim hammer, jim, i think that was directed at you. >> oh, jim is here, i'm sorry. >> personal foul ton california, bernie. (laughter) >> yeah, that's hard. the real danger here is, and someone mentioned it, you can do it too much, beat a dead

horse. and troy, is the d.a. attention to the jury? he's so supposed to be their spokesman and he's going to stand up and ask them for guilt and later for death. is he losing connection with that jury? >> no, i think he's paying close attention. in fact, today he was going after her story on the day of the killing and the fact that she couldn't remember things. hey, wait a second, how can you not remember this, not remember that. >> greta: we heard that. >> and the jury was asking-- >> the jury asked that again? >> well, that's what he was asking if the d.a. is paying attention to the jury. i had he' s' i'd' say yes. >> i guess you can repeat something ten times. the real question, as a trial lawyer, you've the got to watch the jury. and the d.a., he wants that connection and not listening carefully. and one thing, overplays the hand and beats it to death.

>> greta: sometimes, jim, when the evidence is overwhelming like a boring, overtry the case. >> they're not going to let her walk because they're bored, i agree, i agree. >> and jim hammer is also a-- there were a lot of questions i found out just recycled questions, what is the wrongness of having sex, she responded. we are going to ask you a lot of questions about the book of mormons. i mean, these were questions you wonder what in the hell does it have to do-- >> and quickly on what ted said, did you have a gun? yes. did you shoot the gun and did you kill him? yes. go home, sit down, it's over with, tell the jury goodbye. did you have a fight with him the day before you went on a hike, what kind of sex did you have. do you read the book of mormon, yeah, do i. did you commit a lie. what happened. >> the book of mormons says i'm going to hell. she's not concerned about going to hell she's concerned about getting out of there.

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>> all right. everyone, it's now time to hash it out and tonight, new jersey governor chris christie is hashing it out with a heckler. the national review, chris christie takes on heckler who tells him to shut up during town hall meeting. take a look at this confrontation. >> you give me the chance to set up competition for the public school, sir, no competition, let me just say this, let me ask you this, what else in our society works? what else in our-- you know, believe me i've heard you the 8th time, okay? the guy in the back, and continues to scream fix the public schools. if you want-- >> yeah, believe me, i hear you, you're a star, absolutely. listen, sir, i'm not asking you to leave, guess what? guess who is running the show? me, not them. i don't want you leaving, if

you want to yell and scream, yell and scream. that's the way it goes, but you've got to give me the chance to answer the question. >> greta: that loud debate was about schools and as always governor christie tackling criticism head on and of course getting the last word. and the battle was all in the family, huffington post tweets, australia billionaire sued, son of australian richest person seeking a 15 million dollars sorry payment for his mother how she's treated him over the years. it's part of a dispute over a trust. and she's battling for control of the trust worth billions. wouldn't want to be at their holiday house for holiday dinners, would you? and first, dennis rodman and page six, random star and vladimir putin. they opened a martial arts

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