the mavis pulling down a cool 1 million dollars for appearing at the new york auto show promoting the newest range rover. a live video feed showed him driving to the show and how long did it take? less than 07 minutes. >> for a million dollars? >> million dollars. >> that's jon scott money. >> i wish. >> "america live" starts now. >> fox news alert on a story developing in iowa. a powerful newspaper under attack today after it publishes an interactive map identifying more than 100 plus schools that have zero security and they thought this would be a good thing to share, telling everyone which school districts had no full-time police officer or security guard at them. parents and critics questioning the decision by the des moines register, blfg blfg-- believing it might provide a

handdy guide to those wanting to harm school districts. the map, we have provided to show the dots in black, trust me, if you look at the original map posted you would see red dots and green dots and one tells you which schools have security and one tells you which ones don't. and then you can click on the done and get a close-up description of the name of the school district that has no security and an explicit listing that they have no full-time guards. i mean, can you believe this? parents in iowa were outraged saying why are you broadcasting to the state the fact that my child's school district has zero security. why would you do that a couple of months after newtown? >> well, the newspaper responded to the criticism. and in moments we will tell you what it has done, what it has not done, and how it's now defending its actions.

first up though, today marks 100 days since the newtown elementary school shooting and as president obama uses the day to make a new push for gun control there are new questions about possible political costs for the president's party. welcome to american live everyone, i'm megyn kelly, that story out of iowa. we're going to get to that. we've got a couple of guests on this and we're going to go in depth whether they did the right thing. i mean, we're going to get back to it in a minute, but can you imagine? a hundred days after newtown and make ago push on gun control, and president obama is making a push on gun control and it's just an interactive-- let us tell you potential wrong doers exactly which schools have no full-time security just click on the map. the president spoke out about an hour ago, surrounded by morr mothers who want them to take action. the trouble is a number of

senate democrats are the ones blocking it right now in the senate and facing tough reelections and this issue could hurt them in 2014 and they are the reason, we're told that harry reid chose not to put the bulk of the president's man in the main bill that's going to come up before the senate. here is more from president obama. >> the coming weeks members of congress will vote on whether we should require universal background checks for anyone who wants to buy a gun so that criminals or people with severe mental illnesses can't get their hands on one. they'll vote on tough new penalties for anyone who buys guns only to turn them around and it sell them to criminals. they'll vote on a measure that would keep weapons of war and high capacity ammunition magazines that facilitate the mass killings off our streets. they'll get to vote on legislation that would help schools become safer and help people struggling with mental health problems to get the treatment that they need. none of these ideas should be

controversial. >> and chris stirewalt our digital editor and host of power play. the president is out there again pushing for this gun control legislation, but as i said in the introduction, i mean, his main problem here is members of his own party who led harry reid to conclude accurately, according to most pundits, he doesn't have the votes in the senate. he's not oeven putting this in the main bill. >> and he made no secret of it. ten votes short, maybe 20 votes short on this. it wasn't even close, so for the president to go out today on what a group led by new york mayor michael bloomberg is calling a national day of action, calling for gun control, for the president to join that push today increases the pressure on those moderate democrats, those pro-gun democrats, including those facing reelection next year

and this is a squeeze play that can't make folks feel comfortable in their own state. >> how is he going to get it done. the democrats control the senate and they need 60 votes and including they need some republicans. they're pretty frank that they don't have the dems necessary to get it through on a majority vote. does he get on the phone? how did president clinton do it? it was no easy fight back when he did it? how does he make it it happen in '94? >> he didn't campaign, didn't hold press conferences so much he stayed on the phone and worked with moderates democrats to forge a bill that they thought this they could support and that they thought they could get behind rather than saying this is the legislation i want and i'm going to join with michael bloomberg and others to increase the penalty for you politically if you don't help me and you say what can we do and let's work out a deal. it hasn't occurred here and what it means, it's very unlikely that his principal thrust will be achieved and makes it harder to get anything done and including

the mental health stuff that's less controversial. >> it hasn't been talked about hardly at all since newtown, it's been completely given short shrift by everyone looking at this issue and we're going to talk about that because there's breaking news what adam lanza did and we'll talk about the push and national day of action and trying to change, they're trying to change the hearts and minds of those lawmakers who are not going to let the gun ban go through. and you point out in your power play piece today, the ad through which they're trying to persuade the lawmakers they're wrong on gun control may not be the most persuasive push. >> no, it's not. it's silly for people who, when they think about a day of action on guns, they're thinking about pump action, bolt action, lever action shotguns, they would not be

convinced by this ad in which a guy, i don't know whether he's an actor or not. has got kids playing in the background and holding a shotgun in his lap with the chamber closed so it could have a live round in it. he's got his finger on the trigger and sort of pointing back at the kids and the name of the ad is responsibility. the it's too hilarious, i don't think that many ark arkansasens are going to be convinced. >> and breaking news, prosecutors release details on the case, the national rifle association is challenging some of the information that's just been released. first, the prosecutor leading the investigation revealing that the gunman killed all 26 victims of himself within five minutes of shooting himself into sandy hook elementary. he was wearing a bullet-proof

vest and some of that we knew and some we are getting more details on. and prosecutors say they saw n.r.a. information inside the lanza home, but moments ago the n.r.a. says it can find no information on lanza or his mother nancy and anything to the contrairy would be slanderous. we'll speak to a psychologist about other things we've learned about adam lanza and his mother and what she gave her son when it comes to guns and wait until you hear this. now, back to this developing story regarding iowa's largest newspaper coming under fire today. critics angry after the des moines register decides it will be a good idea to publish an interactive map online which it did yesterday. it's down now. but it was online and if you click online you can see it still.

detailing the security levels of all of the school districts in the state of iowa. a couple refused to respond, but virtually all of them. it details who has security, who does not have security, who has none, who has you know some. and gives all these details on whether your children, if you're in iowa are protected or not. trace gallagher has the very latest live from our west coast news room, trace? >> as a map maker part after larger story that the des moines register was doing about school officers. and keep in mind we've taken off the colors and put them all black, but there were red dots indicating schools with no security. there were green dots indicating schools with security and gray dots for districts that did not respond to the survey at all. the des moines register got complaints and took down the map issuing a statement that reads in part here, we listed no addresses or the names of

specific schools, just the districts names. now, what the school, what the paper fails to mention is the map was actually interactive. so, if you clicked on the dot, you didn't get the specific name of the school, but you did get the district. and you got where the district was located, as well as the number of students and some of these districts only have a couple of schools, not very hard to figure out exactly what schools are there. the editor of the paper is walking this back pretty big time saying again, here, i'm quoting, i love the role that we play here in iowa and i care too much about the safety of school teachers and students to do anything so that people would think that we were being reckless and heartless. keep in mind, that man rick green we just got off the phone with, megyn, you'll have him on later in the show and going further, the parents call us all the time asking does my district have security and are my children protected. they wanted to know, is there a police presence in my school asking does my district have

police presence? that's why they say they put the map up there, but he ends the conversation by conveying to us, that the results were wrong. now, the school administrators of iowa also listed, issued a comment saying and i'm quoting here, in our understanding, or in his understanding, the des moines register has removed the interactive map relating to security officers, school resource officers, as they may not have initially considered the unintended consequences of posting such information. the papers said they were going to put up a brand new map, now, the editor of the paper says, no, no, no, they're not putting up any new maps and the maps are done. and some say it's reminiscent of the journal and when they posted what you show a while ago, the guns owners and addresses the des moines register and the new york journal owned by beggannett knon for publishing usa today.

the school district saying it's clearly not a good idea, or the paper. >> megyn: and rick green the editor will be here live and listen, he came out and took responsibility for this, but there are still a lot of questions that mr. green and that paper need to answer for. why did they do this in the first place? why didn't they think about the security concerns before they posted that. the information is available with the click after button online right now. we're not going to put it on fox news channel, but they did it and i appreciate him coming out so i'm going to ask him the tough questions and we'll get some answers coming up right here. also today, amnesty international has just issued an attention-getting new call for an end to the persecution of christians in the country of egypt. up next, we'll show you the stories that have them so concerned and speak with a journalist who got back from egypt on friday. one school's decision to ban dodgeball touches off a debate about the next generation of children. we'll look at what it means that we now say no to tag,

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>> a now outcry calling attention to the ongoipersecutin in egypt. we've been looking at individuals, christians there. and and necessity international calling for an end to the violence and demanding that egyptian president and leader of the muslim brotherhood, mohammed morsi step up and take action to protect the christians living in egypt. and they make up the largest religious minority groups in that country. and joining me now to discuss it, ralph peters, author of the book "hell or richmond" and judith is a reporter, fox news contributor and returned

from a trip to egypt. she got back on friday. thank you so much for being here. now, this, i want to start with this. this made the wires, but we were not able to independently confirm the reporting by quote, mideast christian news that claimed that islamic hard liners stormed a mosque in suburban cairo and turned it into a torture chamber for christians. and judy, we can't confirm whether that's true or not true. but we know is true, there's a history in this country in egypt of anti-christian sentiment and so far mohammed morsi, who is supposed to be, you know the head of a new era in egypt has done very well lit to stop it. >> i can't confirm that report either. the thing to keep in mind is that christians are particularly vulnerable to the overall situation in cairo, which is one of enormous instability. the problems for president

morsi, his police won't turn out and no one will provide security and therefore, the most vulnerable group, such as christians and women who were unaccompanied are subject to violence and vigilante attacks. so, yes, the christians are taking the brunt of the general insecurity, but the real problem for egypt right now is a lack of security. >> that is what amnesty international is pointing to, ralph. they're saying that tensions are back on the rise again. i mean, it's never been great for christians in egypt, but they're saying that tensions are back on the rise again and they're saying that in one district where there was a question about whether a muslim woman had been-- was being hidden by christians and maybe wanted to convert. and let the sister die and so on, and shut down christian businesses and so on. all the folks who wanted to complain, why are we having to live this way, these christians were told don't complain we're not going to

write down your report, said the police, and told the complaints will only serve to ignite the tensions further. you better just learn to deal with it. >> well, certainly christians are being driven out all across the middle east. it's not just egypt. in iraq, while the world looked away, two-thirds of the million and a half christians were driven out. they're going to be persecuted in syria, and driven out of the palestinian territories and now you see it in egypt. i am sure judy miller one of our great journal i-s went where the christians live, it's a shabby slum. it's not second class, third class citizens. and if the muslim force in egypt wanted to crack down on the persecution of christians they could do it. but they're letting the extremists do the dirty work for them because their dream, too, is really just cleansing of a pure islamic middle east.

>> megyn: as we saw in 2011 the clashes that saw tanks literally running down christians in the streets in egypt and here we are now, 2013, judy, and you say the real fear is today of the future. what will mohammed morsi do? what will the muslim brotherhood do if they continue to consolidate power in that country? >> that's the real concern and weird enough, megyn, all the egyptians that i spoke to are blaming the united states for quote, supporting the muslim brotherhood. many, many people, secular, women who have fought for rights, christians, any kind of minority group is now concerned about what a perpetuation of the muslim brotherhood rule would mean for egypt. now, if there is another election, things are so bad now, and the muslim brotherhood has proven itself so incompetent to govern egypt that there's hope that this pathetic liberal operation could get its act together and pose an opposition to the

brotherhood. so far it hasn't happened and so egyptians are really worried that now we've seen what the brotherhood can do. we don't want, egyptians don't want them, but they don't know if they can get rid of them through elections. right now it's a terribly difficult situation. >> megyn: and ralph, having said they would not seek the presidency the muslim brotherhood did seek it and won it and now morsi said publicly egypt can never be presided over by, forget a woman, but a non-muslim. never, never, never. and reaffirmed that on september 2012. >> yet, the obama administration supports, by supporting morsi, supports the muslim brotherhood. megyn, there are two problems, one, you and i have discussed in the past, the obama administration is not interested in foreign policy, it wants quiet, wants stability and really, they've listened to the voices here in our country saying the muslim brotherhood are good guys and they're not. >> megyn: ralph, judy, thank

you so much. >> megyn: a new twist in a case, oscar pistorius has been given permission to travel the world. we'll have an update in his case.

>> a new twist in a high profile murder case as olympic star oscar pistorius goes in front of a judge to ask for more freedom to travel despite the fact that he is facing premeditated murder charges in connection with the death of his girlfriend. trace gallagher in live in our west coast news room. >> trace: really for oscar pistorius, this is a grand slam. his lawyers looking for four different things and walked out with all four. and travel ban, oscar is allowed to travel as long as

he gives one weeks's notice and lawyers argue that he may need to travel to compete again to pay lawyers bills and he no longer has to be regularly supervised by the court. he was having to check in twice a week, that's out. and also alcohol and banned substance monitoring has ended, so if he chooses he now can drink again, and he's allowed to go back to his estate where the shooting actually happened. he said he needed to fix it up to sell it to pay for legal fees and now he will be allowed to do that. so the prosecutors lost on every count, but they do not seem to be worried. listen. >> we are not going to make any comment as far as the judgment is concerned. our is on the outcome and we need to focus on that with all our minds and not going to make any comments. >> trace: and pistorius trial could happen as early as this year. he may compete, if you can

believe this, in the world championship in moscow sometime in august and again, his reps saying, look, he needs to get the mountain together to pay these massive legal bills that are piling up every day, megyn. >> megyn: wow, all right. trace, thanks. well, we've got new developments in just moments on our top story. the newspaper is caught in the middle of the controversy over publishing an interactive map that shod which school districts in its state have armed security guards and which have no security whatsoever. how would you like it if your child was in one of the school districts with no security? and they had just published that online? the des moines register editor will be here live. plus, a verdict from an epic case in kelly's court as a judge issues a ruling on the man who wanted to adopt his girlfriend. remember this guy? we'll tell you what they ruled. and one school district decision to ban dodgeball touches off a national debate about the next generation of american children. take a look at what it means that we now say no to tag,

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>> we're tracking a developing story this hour about recent threats from north korea and a powerful message from the united states. fox news has confirmed that the pentagon sent nuclear

capable b-52 bombers over south korea as a show of force. to the north, these are said to be actual pictures of the bombers in the sky. the b-52 stealth jets are the same that led america's shock and awe campaign, and bombing baghdad to clear the way for coalition forces. and live at the pentagon with more, jennifer. >> reporter: hi, megyn, we're awaiting for the brief by the secretary and joint chairman of the chiefs in an hour's time. the decision to fly stealth b-2 bombers to korea in a round trip operation was made in essence in response to recent north korean statements and actions. these still pictures were taken from the ground showing the actual b-2 stealth bombers themselves flying south of the capital, seoul, over the korean peninsula, a reminder to the young kim jong-un in the north, the u.s. is capable of reaching them swiftly,

armed with nuclear weapons to protect his friend and alley. and it dropped a payload off the coast in an exercise with south korea. the pentagon wants to detour any adventurism by the young bick tate dictator. the most recent flight is is on monday and capable of carrying nuclear weapons. the u.s. and south korea are taking part in joint military exercises until april 30th. the b-52 flights are a part of the exercises known as full eagle. we will wait to hear from secretary haggle about the counterpart in about an hour's time, megyn. >> jennifer, thank you. >> and planning to play.

and the inner city champ for five years straight. and doing a little more dancing than not going on up there. check themselves before they arrest themselves. >> megyn: that was from the 2004 comedy "dodgeball" a game many of us played as children. today one new hampshire school district there will be no dodging, diving, ducking of any kind. the wyndham school district is worried that the game promoviol reaction there is mixed. >> i mean, i think that's part of the game. that's just how the game goes and you can pick out any sport and you can say football is bullying, ganging up on one person to tackle him. they're not going to ban football, i think it's crazy. >> i think they're cruel games. you know, if it's handled well and supervised well, it could be played in a way, fun for all the kids, but i think frequently is becomes a little bit of bullying, but it's gone. >> megyn: is this part of what some have called the

wussification of america? joining me now, sally kohn a fox news contributor and tony, a strategist and fox news contributor. is it? >> no. i mean, look, first of all, let me just say, i love dodgeball, dodgeball is awesome, i wish we could still play it it as grown-ups as often as kids. when i was a kid, you know, kids got called names, they got bullied, things got called-- i said things that we wouldn't say on air right now and they still do it. whether we have dodgeball or not. in fact, to be honest, my kid, i look when she goes out and gets a lot of physical activity and i feel it's a good outlet for that energy rather than taking it out in, you know, more unconstructive ways. let's focus on bullying. >> megyn: so like dodgeball, but address bullying. >> there are different two problems entirely. >> megyn: tony, schools say we make sure that kids are violence-free and here a game that use children as targets. that seems to be counter to

what we're trying to accomplish. >> that's ridiculous, they talk about dodgeball and all quote, unquote elimination games. >> megyn: and prisonball, slaughter, bombardment? >> prison ball is really fun, i've got to stay that. >> i used to play a game called what's up. and used to go to a brick ball. we're telling our kids, you can't get hit by a ball, can't get eliminated from a sport and you're the same as everybody else when you play something, we've minimized the lessons we're supposed to offer in a complete education and not taught to persevere. >> megyn: as someone frequently the target in a dodgeball game. maybe it's the way i realize it. >> you're traumatized. >> megyn: i remember a lot of that. >> we can work through that right here, right now. >> megyn: but it hurts. why do we send our kids in an

environment where it hurts. one thing you're playing softball and it hits you, that happens. but the purpose of dodgeball is to hit someone with a ball that's hard. >> so are football and a lot of things. >> megyn: no, football he we try to catch, not try to bean one another with it. >> i feel this is where i divert from the whole helicopter parent thing. my kid i feel like part of her job growing up is to get hurt, not on purpose or anything, but falling off the jungle gym, trying new things, learning her limits, picking herself up and dusting herself off. that's part of life and to be honest, listen, i think that violence in our children is real issue and we should be concerned about it and parents should be concerned about it, but look it, dodgeball instead of first person shooter games and the violence on television, this is the wave of the future and the not just dodgeball, but tag in several and several dumped contact sports, including touch touchdown and soccer, at least in football pads on, touch football, no, soccer dodged in

some players, philly, a push to eliminate dodgeball, and one school, ban break dancing, dodgeball and tug-of-war. >> and one took down swingsets because of the potential liability from somebody coming from falling down. >> megyn: and that's the lawyers doing it. dodgeball is not the lawyers, it's concern about parents and kids. >> at the same time we have to keep some perspective here. we want our kids to have a complete education. social interaction requires some level of healthy risk, when you play dodgeball and you get hit by a ball. >> when i was at school you had to do it. >> and part of gym. >> and what's this now, you went to a-- >> and i feel like this is a thing for you. >> i like the solution that they came up with. i can't see where it is. willet elementary school they use a softer ball for dodge balls, why did they make it it

it so hard, a scary red ball, bam, bean you in the head. >> that's fair. >> megyn: i'm not for-- i don't like the schools where you don't get grades and everyone's a winner, i don't believe in that and i don't believe in the games where you can't play, you know, tag and that kind of thing, but like dodgeball, the whole premise is to bean somebody. >> you have something against dodgeball, that's evident from this conversation. >> if i had one now i would throw it at tony and you would see how fun it is. >> megyn: and i think for now, what you're going to have to do with your children, bean them yourself with a dodgeball. >> and parents, and paint ball and have four balls, we have fun with that. >> megyn: it will toughen them up. >> it will. >> megyn: and we need a softer ball with the dodgeball. don't vilify it it. >> megyn: i was solving the crisis. >> take the air out of it. i get it. >> and like a little "furby"

doll, fat and fluffy, bank of america, that could work. >> stuffed animal. nothing about that. >> megyn: and follow me on megyn kelly. and up next, we're going to be joined with the newspaper editor caught up in the controversy after the des moines register publishes an interactive map and this one we've blacked out and the real map shows the green and the red dots and some show security and some show school districts that have no he security. why would they do this? that's next, don't miss this. the fbi formally releasing the infamous memo in rozwell, new mexico.

>> back now to the top stories, we're getting new reaction and developments following a decision by iowa's largest newspaper to publish the level of security at hundreds of school districts across the state.

parents and critics very upset after the des moines register published an interactive map like this one. we've chosen to black out the dots, their map posted online color coded and detailed, the school districts that had security and those without. so, the real map would show a bunch of red dots and then the code would show you that they have no security and then the green dots would show you that those who restrict, do have a security guard. schools that did not respond were characterized with a gray dot. and that led to almost instantaneous outrage. and joining me now on the phone, rick green, from the des moines register, thank you for coming on, you're a stand upguy for coming on. people are upset. what were you thinking? >> thank you, megyn, good talking to you. we're at this incredibly sensitive time on our

country's history on the heels of sandy hooks as relates to guns and school security and obviously as related to the safety of our kids. immediately after sandy hook, communities across iowa, really around the country, you guys have reported this at the same time, have started asking questions about the presence of school resource officers do we need to expand them, hire them, here in des moines, our police chief proposed adding additional school resource officers to our des moines public school system and other communities are weighing the same thing and the n.r.a. was proposing at one point after sandy hook, if i recall correctly, an armed guard in every school. and we started to report the story, we heard from residents, taxpayers and most importantly from parents, three questions, does my school have resource officers and what kind of security system is in my child's school. and is our district taking seriously any potential public

safety threats avrterted by the presence of the school resource officer. and a question to ask and be sensitive, but be as thoughtful as we can. >> megyn: you admit you didn't do that. >> no, i'm the not admitting that. what we did is a look at 54 school districts that have school resource officers and most of the other ones across iowa do not. i think you've kind of misled the viewers a little with that, megyn, in that we didn't say no security, because a lot of these school districts, while they might not have school resource officers, they still have the presence of police officers or sheriffs. >> megyn: let me interrupt you, and show you one of the interactive pull outs and we've blocked out of answer as to whether the particular school district has officers or done this, because we don't want to publish that information, but look at it you put up there southeast west or grand, employs private

security officers and then you answered the questions, you answered it i'm not going to tell whether you said yes or no. >> what you're not asking me do some of the school districts that have not hired school resource officers still have security? do they still have police officers occasionally go through the schools or sheriff's deputies that patrol school districts or school buildings yes they do. >> megyn: but that's not the same, rick. that's not the same. of course, you published in your article, you know, some of them are considering adding school resource officers, some are them have local police who come through occasionally, it's not the same as telling everyone there is no full-time security officer within this school district. >> well, like i said, it's a time for us to be incredibly thoughtful about how we ask and how we answer these questions and you know, the rule decide to be thoughtful how you proceed with this whole thing. >> megyn: why not put up the list of school districts, there are 348 districts in

iowa put up the list of 348 and put down the contact information for parents to call? >> that's a very good idea, very good idea and with how we try to proceed with this whole thing. you know, the tricky part out of this, megyn, when taxpayers and residents are calling us to inquire how safe the schools are, we have to investigate. >> megyn: tell them to call the school district. why do you have to post in des moines whether siouxes city has a security officer. there's no discussion in iowa about using state taxpayer funds to pay for security throughout the state. this is a district by district issue. >> it is a district by district issue and has been talked about at the state house at the same time. the very pertinent topic i think that has consumed a lot of folks both at the local level, moms and dads as well as teachers and superintendents, taxpayers as well as legislators. after it posted, you know, i immediately started getting a couple of phone calls, and my team alerted me to it and we

took it down and in a response to be as thoughtful to the situation to make sure that we were being as vigilent trying to convey the proper information in a way that-- >> i respect that, rick, and i think our viewers respect you took it down when the controversy emerged you did, good for you, a lot of others wouldn't have done it, but then you did say that you know, there's two prongs, number one it's tough to unring the bell, i look at that map online and i can see there's a whole lot more districts that have no security than there are that have security. so, if i'm some psycho, i might want to play my odds, i didn't know that information yesterday now i do. secondly, you're online statement said that you revised the map and that you are posting a revised map to only show the 54 school districts that do have resource officers. have you now reconsidered that? you do a little math and you can figure out, now, if you get half the equation, the other half is obvious. >> let me stop you first and say that original map up for about 20 minutes and taken down isn't anywhere on our

site and you're the only one out there showing it and talking about it. >> i'm not showing it, no, to the credit the blaze.com broke this and it's a popular website. >> it's still on the website in pdf. >> megyn: it's not their fault, it's your fault. >> the original map showed no schools, no addresses did not go into detail where the schools were, but do i wish we would have handled it different, megyn, obviously i wish we would have, but again, it's that whole notion of trying to balance the needs of taxpayers and parents asking legitimate questions, turning to us to try to answer that, and at the same time being very thoughtful about how do you do everything you can to make sure that you do your job, respond to your readers, both those that are asking questions and those that were going to try to-- >> just to clarify, because i'm up against a hard break, you're not going to post a map

and-- >> i'm not posting a map. how do taxpayers across our state and around the country. >> megyn: i got it. >> how do they handle this-- >> with all due respect, for coming in and i know it's not an easy interview. >> megyn, thanks for your time. >> megyn: up next, the reaction from iowa.

>> the des moines register, we want to bring in simon wonway, a des moines radio host the first, as i understand it, simon to discuss it on a radio show out of iowa. you're an interesting man, you're a native of great britain, but an american citizen now and radio host and boy, you got the some reaction from your listeners when you started talking about this yesterday. >> well, yeah, we started the show, we actually ripped up the show we had planned because this went out pretty much just as we were going to air. and the show went with that

because really, seriously, one question. what the heck were they thinking? and there's no real answer to that. and you just had rick on and he wasn't entirely truthful for you, they have already published a second map with the 54 schools, they've since taken that one down as well. so, he's already done it, and actually removed two maps and the very interesting thing i called him first thing this morning and you've had no response from him whatsoever. our news department, our multi-award winning news department contacted him yesterday and he hasn't responded to them yesterday either. he doesn't want to talk to his own viewers or readers, but he's happy to talk to you. it's a bizarre situation. >> megyn: he didn't have to come on. i made clear at the top of the show it wasn't going to be be an easy interview and to his credit he came on and he talked about it. a lot of people would have bailed. the point as i said to him, how do you unring the bell? it's out there and he put it on the internet and it's out there forever and it's not just that, it's not just that map because the article, the article is still out there. and they stand by the article and i'm the not going to say

it here, but it goes through specific school districts and names them specifically, saying. >> yep. >> megyn: certain ones that do not have any school resource-- safety officers, if you've got a kid in the school district in iowa, what are the folks saying out there. >> my audience was up in arms and my phones blew up as soon as we started talking about it. and his phones blew up as a result of our phones blowing up, frankly and that's when he took it down after my audience went crazy at his switchboard and that's why they took it back down and when they took it down and that's great. that's a win for my audience and that's fantastic and the as you rightly point out, what they did yesterday was provide a shopping list for every nut-job in iowa to go shopping with. it's bizarre. >> megyn: yeah, it's really unfortunate. 100 days after newtown and we are mourning the loss in connecticut and ever more mindful there are psychos out there and don't need to be

drawn a map. thanks for good work. >> one final thing, megyn, i know you're in a hurry. they have an anti-gun agenda and they ran an editorial on december the 29th of last year. >> i'm familiar with it, an op-ed and they tried to dial back later. but thank you for being here, coming up soon. (ann) to help me plan my next move, i take scottrade's free, in-branch seminars... plus, their live webinars. i use daily market commentary to improve my strategy. and my local scottrade office guides my learning every step of the way. because they know i don't trade like everybody. i trade like me. i'm with scottrade. (announcer) scottrade... ranked "highest in customer loyalty for brokerage and investment companies."

>> fox news alert. knew details from december's tragic school shooting from newtown, connecticut. police released search warrants hours ago reigniting the debate what happened the day that gunman adam lanza shot his way into sandy hook elementary school gunning down 26 people including 20 young children. a brand new hour of "america live." welcome, everyone, i'm megyn kelly. after weeks of requests connecticut prosecutors released the search parents warrants from the newtown shooting. documents that revealed laundry list of weapons, and drawings discovered inside the lanza home. and take this guy's picture down. no one wants to look at it.

no one wants to look at that. and perhaps one of the most chilling items revealed today, a large spread sheet, adam lanza the shooter made, of past high profile past murders designed to look like a score sheet with his name at the top. and rick leventhal with more. >> some of these facts have been reported and a wealth of information discovered inside the lanza's home and we know that he fired more than 150 rounds during the massacre at sandy hook, that he had a gun safe in his bedroom and according to an unnailed witness, sandy hook elementary and it was quote, his life. and parked his mother's honda in a fire line and killed 26 victims in two classrooms and a hallway before ending his life and inside his mother's honda civic investigators found another weapon, a .12 gauge shotgun and 70 rounds of

winchester shotgun shells. adam rarely left home, a shut-in, avoid gamer, preferred call of duty. and his mother's body was found on the second floor where he shot her dead and found hundreds of rounds of ammo in, the closet, gun safe, did you feel bag and hundreds and hundreds of bullets. gun magazine, rifles, numerous long knives, a spear, bayonet and three samurai swords and numerous computers, memory cards, hard drives, and multiple gaming consoles, journals and drawings penned by adam lanza and books, including my life with asperger's and inside the mind

of an s avant and all of the investigatio investigations are expected by june. >> megyn: what are we to learn about the shooter and his mother after what the police just told us. doctor, let's start with the mother. you know your kid has asperger's and you have an arsenal in your house. not to mention this item, but rick mentioned earlier, a holiday card with a check from her to him, made out to adam lanza for the purchase of a c-183 with a firearm. she couldn't give him enough guns. notwithstanding she knew he had asperger's. >> this is absolutely right. you know the fact that in a house in newtown we had a massive arsenal of just every kind of weapon for the expression of violence in the hands of a young man who was mentally ill and a mother who herself was troubled, as we

know from several reports from the telegraph, from many other reports, that she had a kind of doomsday paranoid prepper mentality, it seems. we couldn't have more powerf powerful-- stronger more powerful evidence that the solution to this problem is one that must have to do with mental illness and must have to do with universal background checks in order to catch these people. >> and but you have a background check would have caught this? >> a small, but potent group that commits this and-- >> let me jump in, i said she gave the standing notwithstanding the fact that her son had asperger's. it's not a violent syndrome, it's on the autism spectrum, but experts have said it's a social disorder basically, but if your keep your kid as a recluse, as a shut-in, no social stimuli and no support system, appears he had none, then you can see how the

social disorder would deteriorate and not somebody who you give an arsenal to. >> let me clear up a few things and you make good points and a lot of information flying around. i've been looking at these kids now for 30 years since early days at yale. asperger's is about to be taken out of the dsm-v so it's not-- and the vast majority of children with asperger's is typically not a violent disorder, but at the age lanza was not as we saw with loughner, with holmes, with virtually every one of these shootings, that's the age at which a person is critically ready to have their furs psychotic break and what is the differential diagnosis with that? it's this pre-morbid difficulty, getting along with other people and having these

interior fantasies that looks like asperger's syndrome. and then we have a mother-- >> we've seen it in cases. >> hang on, megyn, hang on. >> megyn: in defense of the children out there with asperger's, we've seen the psychotic breaks around age 20 with no-- my point is that an adam lanza was a troubled, troubled kid. and she sent him. >> the mother was also-- >> an arsenal. >> she was a person who had paranoia herself so we know that this disorder is teen in tremendous genetic form from mother to child. what do we have here in fact most likely, we want to be careful with diagnosis. if we look at the prior cases studied since 1998, this is the classic example of a child who was about to break into psychosis, who was filled in psychotic fantasies and a paranoid first degree relative his own aunt said she's a

prepper, a paranoid, a survivalist, we have evidence of someone who fits into a small class of individuals who commits this crime and what we need to do is on the front end, to identify these people with mental illness. not the bizarre in-- >> i want to ask you, we only have a minute left. this spread sheet that he reportedly had with these other mass murderers and then with a blank, you know, space for his name at the top. what is that? >> that is the obsessive, slightly borderline solutional. remember jared lee loughner, the young man who tragically shot gabrielle giffords, he had these very complex word

amas that he would put on the internet, obsessive and focused on violence very much in his own world of dilution. i would see these as very similar to that, but in his mind he probably felt it was important to somehow imitate or act out the-- and he was in this cold, pre-dilutional calculating way beginning to plan out that crime. now, look, world, nation, we need to commit the resources to spotting these kids. as your reporter said, self-help books scattered around the house amongst these weapons when instead what she needed was a kid in useful treatment and what we needed for the many people who buy their own weapons and don't have them purchased with their mothers with birthday checks, majority of case, we need them to walk into a place wherever it is, be it a gun show, be it a straw purchase, be it a licensed gun owner or be it an online venue, and have them

background checked if we do that will stop-- >> that's the one piece of legislation pushed on capitol hill that appears-- >> constitutional under heller and-- >> adam lanza didn't need a background check because his mother provided him with everything he needed. doc, i've got to go. >> the exception to every other case, remember, people. >> megyn: got to go, thank you, sir. >> all right. >> megyn: out to the west coast now, new concerns of dozens of homes that are in danger, and engineers on the scene of a massive landslide near seattle and say the area is unstable. and look at that picture, wow, that overhead shot was something. one house knocked off its foundation when the earth gave way and the fear is that more could follow. dan springer live in washington. dan? >> yeah, megyn, geologists say that the earth is still moving

around here and will continue to be unstable for months. give you an idea where we are, we're about 40 yards away from the end of the slalandslide. on the other side of the group of pines was a group of other pines blocking the view of the neighbor here to see the water and those trees are down what amounts to a peninsula. the landslide knocked the house down into the puget sound. and the man heard a rumbling and got out. another man described what he saw. >> i didn't think anything of it. i kind of looked out the window and then about 1:45 i heard it again. and realized this wasn't thunder because i saw the flashing of the power lines over-the-hill. like the transformers were blowing up. >> unbelievable pictures. this area is prone to

landslides and follow winter or spring storms. it's not this time. it's accumulation of water in the sandy soil. 34 homes were evacuated and we're told all, but a handful of residents will be allowed back in later today after engineers test the hill side. still, 17 homes will remain inaccessible perhaps for months because the road, only road that could take them to their home is gone. megyn. >> megyn: wow, dan, thank you. well, an interesting question from one of the justices on the highest court in the land. justice scalia asked if americans have entered a new world in which the nation's top attorney can pick and choose which laws he feels like defending and which he doesn't. scalia versus holder? that next. silence after an interview with pediatric neurosurgeon ben carson and defended his

policies and race, and where is the chorus of voices that normally would come to his defense? we'll have a fair and balanced debate on that coming up. >> i've heard that some people refer to me as an uncle tom. ou obviously they don't know what an uncle tom is, they need to reach the novel to see that he was very, very subserviant go along to get along type of person and obviously that's not what i'm doing. shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes.

>> well, a new debate is emerging today about a key moment in yesterday's supreme court hearing over the defense of marriage act or domma as it's called. back when barack obama and eric holder decided it was unconstitutional. it was a law on the books they decided was unconstitutional. and so while they continued to enforce it, they refused to defend it in court. now, that prompted conservative leaning justice

antonin scalia to ask from the bench whether the justice department is now in a place where it will just decide when it can and will defend the law? law? >> i'm wondering if we're living in this new world where the attorney general can simply decide, yeah, it's unconstitutional, but it's not so unconstitutional that i'm not willing to enforce it. if we're in this new world, i don't want these cases like this to come before this court all the time. and i think they will come all the time if that's -- if that's the, the new regime in the justice department that we're dealing with. >> megyn: joining me now jay sekulow, the chief council for center law justice and dick is an attorney and south carolina democratic party chair. this was so interesting because when eric holder first came out and said i'm not

going to defend the law, passed and signed on the book and i'm not going to defend it. people said, but it's a law. so you kind of have to. and then it was pointed out, well, it's not the first time in history, doesn't happen very often, but not the first time in history that an attorney general has made such decisions. justice scalia doesn't seem to be persuaded by the fact it may have happened in the past, jay. >> well, it's not happened in the past in the same context as this one, where the law was on the books, passed and signed into law and was in fact a valid law and was being enforced and then the attorney general and the president decide on their own, if that's not a law they're going to enforce. >> megyn: not enforce, but defend. >> they're not going to defend it, yeah, not defend it and actually the brief i filed at the supreme court of the united states in the doma case did not deal with whether you're for defense of marriage or not. but the issue where the president can instruct the

attorney general not to enforce a law that's constitutional. at least a rational basis for the constitutionality, and whether it's-- should not be up to the attorney general of the united states. that's why cases are brought to the supreme court. our argue is simple. we live in a democracy not a monarchy and doesn't get to pick and choose the law. if the president passed a law through congress, same-sex couples are entitled to the benefits and another president says i don't like that, it's probably not constitutional, don't enforce it. how would the other side react to that. >> i'll put that up to you-- >> and focus on the judiciary. >> megyn: go ahead, dick. >> well, i think, first of all your guest has confused enforcement with defending it. the statute-- the law is being enforced, the question is if it's challenged

do you defend it as being constitutional when you believe it's not? and i think they have an absolute duty to enforce it if it's a law and b, several times in the past administrations democrats and have not defended statutes. >> when. >> they're in the briefs. >> which ones? >> i'm not going to bore the audience. give me one. >> let me finish. several times they've not done that and many times state at that time state statutes, and african-americans married white people in virginia that was not defended by the administration, they took no position. this is about federalism to some extent. >> that wasn't a federal law, that's a state law. the federal government doesn't have to take a position, this is a federal law. >> megyn: let me jump newspaper and ask you this, jay, why is it important for eric holder to be the one in there defending this law?

>> because his it's an obligation, to defend the laws of the constitution of the united states, and you cannot have a situation, there's two very limited exceptions to that rule. one is when a presidential power is at stake, not applicable here and one where there's absolutely no rational basis upon which a law can be deemed constitutional and here the courts have gone both ways and i think all the justices have acknowledged it could have been defended. what concerned justice scalia is the fact of what you just said, megyn, that the state, the federal government here made a determination on their own to not defend a federal law. when you bring up loving versus virginia and other cases, absolutely irrelevant different situation completely and absolutely not applicable. this is a federal law that they are going to enforce, but not defend. and then the argument was, well, who can defend it, nobody? what do you end up with. so then-- >> that turns into a hornet's nest in this case about whether the people who had to step in to defend it, which were basically the house

republicans, right? wasn't it the house republicans to go there-- >> bipartisan legal advisory group. >> megyn: they had to have somebody defend t the u.s. supreme court wondering the standing and so on. it sets sort after interesting precedent. what if we had a president rubio in the future and he decided obamacare is not, is not constitutional. >> wait a minute, you're making me-- >> and defend the constitutional challenges? >> obviously, somebody would defend it and i think that somebody would contest it. let's put it in this context-- >> wait, wait. >> megyn: let him, we're coming up on a break. >> and go ahead, dick. >> if he cut back on the coffee maybe we could finish this. let's say the common-law, let's say the congress passes a law that says you've got to register every firearm. and it passes and the president signs it and then the next administration,

somebody challenges that law under the second amendment, and the administration for enforces it. should the administration defend that law. in this case, it's people that don't want gay people to be married and-- >> thank you for being here. why is no one defending dr. ben carson? bring out chicken broccoli alfredo. or best-ever meatloaf. go to campbellskitchen.com for recipes, plus a valuable coupon. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. i'm up next, but now i'm sging the heartburn blues. hold on, prilosec isn't for fast relief. cue up alka-seltzer. it stops heartburn fast. ♪ oh what a relief it is!

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>> new charges against a suspect in a deadly house explosion in indianapolis. mark leonard is currently awaiting trial along with his girlfriend and brother on charges that they intentionally sparked a gas explosion to collect insurance. it happened at his girlfriend's house back in november and the blast was so bad two neighbors were killed and now, a jail guard reportedly overheard the man conspiring to have a witness killed. so that charge has also been added to his case. well, a rare display of generosity from a group of

co-workers who won a million dollar lotto jackpot. all too often money seems to bring out the worst in people and these friends, look at them. they look like nice people, look how happy they are, made the surprising decision to share new found wealth. trace gallagher if i had a nickel for every kelly's court story went opposite of the way this went. >> this is a heart warmer. this is a keller williams in plan station, florida, women and men work in the office and new girl showed up and jennifer had been in the office three weeks and they asked her, because every week they throw in 20 bucks to the lotto tickets and asked her, hey, do you want to throw in 20 bucks? and here is what jennifer said, listen. >> honestly, i didn't have the money. i mean, i needed $20 to spend on something else, versus the lottery at that time. >> okay, so they went out and they bought 120 tickets, right? and the clerk at the store

messed up and gave them 60 tickets and didn't matter they got five numbers and won the million dollars, right? well, they told jennifer when he they came back, they won and she thought they were pulling a new girl prank on her and find out they were legit and happy for them and kind of sad for her and then they told her, they were going to share it with her. >> that's how we do everything. she's part of our family, part of our team, we're a group of 12 people, and we all win together, or we lose together. and she's one of us, i can't imagine anybody not sharing this type of blessing that we were given. >> i think that that's the most generous thing that they could have done for me considering they barely know me. >> yeah, did you hear her say she's one of us. this girl had worked in the office, megyn, for three weeks. and each one of these workers gets $83,000 and of course, after taxes they take whom like, you know, 7 or 800

bucks, that's good and they're going to share with her and get like 40 grand or 42 grand out of it and they're splitting it and that is a very magnanimous gesture on behalf of those co-workers. >> megyn: how about one of the co-workers saying i can't imagine not doing it. this is clearly somebody who does not watch kelly's court. because we have one of those cases every week and usually involves somebody who does participate in the pool and forgot to that week or out on sick leave. what have you. in any event, nice story, tries, thank you. >> trace: sure. >> megyn: and speaking of kelly's court, we have a verdict in a case that we brought you in the court not long ago. a judge issuing a ruling on the millionaire to tried to adopt his girlfriend. remember this, to protect his foreign from a judgment. we'll bring you the update. and renowned neurosurgeon dr. ben carson having to defend himself against race-based attacks that he's received in the wake of airing his opinions. just ahead, we'll take a look

at why very few who usually complain about this kind of thing, seem to be standing in the doctor's corner. >> i'met people to speak up because you know, this country is changing into something else and we need to make sure that we really want it to change into something else and not just end up there and ask ourselves how did we get there. [ male announcer ] it's red lobster's lobsterfest

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>> well, the government in

cyprus says it could take a month before it lifts restrictions how much money you can get from your bank. extra security was on hand as people lined up to withdraw what's left of their money. it's the first time banks in cyprus opened their doors in nearly two weeks after the government negotiated a deal included taking 40% out of the savings accounts of people who had over basically amounts to $130,000 there, to bail them out of their financial troubles in cyprus. well, deafening silence from many in the mainstream media after ben carson, renowned pediatric neurosurgeon, is brutally attacked in several circles for voicing his opinions, many of which happened to sound conservative. here are some of the interview i had with him when he came on this program and we talked about the subject on tuesday. >> they feel that if you look a certain way then you have to

stay on the plantation, you know, i've heard that some people refer to me as an uncle tom. well, obviously, they don't know what an uncle tom is because they need to read harry beechstone's novel "uncle tom's cabin" to say he was subserviant, the go along to get along type person. that's not what i'm doing. and what the left does frequently and some aspects of the right, too, try to make life so unpleasant for anybody who disagrees with them that people will keep silent and i know that it's working because so many people come up to me and say, thank you, thank you for having the courage to express this. this is the same way i feel, but most people won't speak up. i'm trying to get people to speak up because, you know, this country is changing into something else and we need to make sure that we really want it to change into something else and not just end up there and ask ourselves how did we get there. >> megyn: so where are all of his defenders as he is called

a token, an uncle tom, an oreo? joining me now to discuss it marc thiessen, columnist and former speech writer for george w. bush. and from pennsylvania-- >> let me start with you on a marc, many on the left especially these days are not slow to jump to accusations of racism when you know, most people would say, how did you get there? right? and it doesn't take much for them to sound that alarm. but when you actually have people saying he's an oreo, he's a token, he's an uncle tom and dismissing him outright since he has to have some conservative views, deafening silence, why? >> he predicted it, it's shocking. if you go back to that speech

he gave that launched hum into national prominence, the national prayer breakfast, he talked about the need for more tolerance in our society to respect the views of people who disagree with us. about the p.c., and how do they respond to that, call him an oreo, uncle tom and a token. they're doing exactly what dr. carson predicted. in a way it's not surprising. the reason that conservatives are drawn to dr. carson not because of the color of his skin, but because of the content of his character. they love his life story, he grew up in detroit, his mother didn't let him make excuses and he's a pediatric neurosurgeon, separated siamese twins and an amazing man. the people fixated on the color of his skin are on the left and no one is coming to his defense except you.

>> megyn: why is that? why would they call him a token at all. if they don't like his message, go after the message. why get into oreo, token and uncle tom? don't suggest, uttering those phrases themselves have a racial prejudice? >> i think one of the things you have to think about is the way that identity politics works and even statistically the lion's share of african-americans are left-leaning, and so, you know, there is a political element to this and i think that really it's unfair, i think at this point, to say that it's the left that's going after him because the things i saw were really other african-americans going after him and again, it's not right, but it's also not uncommon. and i think dr. carson was correct when he said that it would be predictable and that these things would happen. and i think it really comes out of political differences

and differences in beliefs not about this ideology of personal responsibility because that was a long history in the black community. i think it really has to do with other policy-related things that dr. carson said in his speech and that it comes along, and he really comes along on the political stage at a time when the right is trying to expand or, you know, widen the tent and bring african-americans in, which then leads african-americans to be somewhat suspicious and to assume that this is a move really it get african-americans interested in the g.o.p. or at least to have the g.o.p. start to look more like the rest of the country. >> megyn: you know, but let me ask you, marc, i want to get to everybody. let me ask you, marc, barack obama came to prominence in 2004 when he made the great speech and the democratic

national convention, if you had people coming out saying he's a token or uncle tom or oreo back then and i'm not saying that he has not been subjected to racist insults, because he has, but the left would have gone bananas. this guy happens to sound more conservative sounding, i've never heard him with a broad brush, but the ideals. the normal people expressing outrage are the ones levelling the charges. they're the ones saying tokenism. >> imagine, i mean, it started with a commentator on another network, imagine if a commentator on fox news said the kind of things he said about barack obama, there'd be outrage around the country and go on the other network, left-leaning and saying it about a conservative and it's all right. a combination of a couple of things, intellectual lazeness on the part of the left.

when the conservatives tried to offer free market to the welfare state and offer opportunity, they dismiss it as racism. they can't call dr. carson racist, so they call him an uncle tom. and the g.o.p. as anti-science. here you have a prominent pediatric neurosurgeon that operates on the brains of babies, this great scientist who is espousing conservative ideas. they don't know how to handle it, he's a threat to him. because they don't have an intellectual answer to what he's saying, they throw these epithets at him and it's a sign of intellectual weakness on the part of his critics. >> megyn: professor excuse me for calling you camille before. professor, wouldn't it be smarter and better for those in the black community, you know, you point out-- it's not just the black community, but a lot of folks on the left hurling accusations and i'm not going to get into who, but folks on a rival network have been tough on him.

look at this guy, look at his accomplishments and an example as an american,' pulled himself out of poverty and even though his mother wasn't educated and was pregnant at 13, he made it, the head of neuro pediatric surgery at johns hopkins and separated conjoined twins, why not celebrate him. we may not agree he with his conservative or philosophical positions, but god bless. what we need is more african-americans rising to such amazing positions and setting the examples for others, not just black children, but white children as well? >> well, again, i think that in the african-american community, we do that. you know, i had famous black american flash cards as a kid and dr. ben carson was one of those people. and i think we do that. that doesn't mean we always agree on political issues. we, the african-american community holds colin powell in high esteem. they don't necessarily agree

with his politics. i think those are two different things and again, i think it's unfortunate, but i do think one of the other issues here is that for whites on the left to come to the defense of ben carson and tell black people what they ought to think gets you into another thorny circumstance. again, i don't, i don't think that it's fair for anyone to be criticizing a man for his beliefs. i think that that, you know, that we can agree that there's diversity in the community, right? and that some blacks are conservative and in fact, socially many more blacks are socially conservative than i think we tend to think about because we think about the way that blacks vote. and again, overwhelmingly, they vote democrat. and there are sort of historic and real reasons for doing that, that then prompt them to respond the way that they are to dr. carson. >> megyn: yeah. >> and it's unfortunate, as i

said, but it isn't uncommon and i think that hopefully moving forward, you know, we won't have this circumstance. >> megyn: yeah. i mean, you can't have, like, somebody like that just being dismissed and quote, nadly, the token negro is patently offensive. it's patently offensive. thank you for coming on with your views. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thanks, megyn. >> megyn: up next the murder trial that captured the country's attention may be nearing its end and up next, kelly's court takes on the case of jodi arias and whether her lawyer has made the defense.

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>> a verdict in a case seen on kelly's court and a judge void ago florida mogul's adoption of his girlfriend. saying it didn't have a legitimate purpose. you remember that 49-year-old john goodman sentenced to prison last year for a deadly

drunk driving crash he caused killing a man. the polo tycoon made headlines by then adopting his girlfriend heather hutchens, accused of doing that shielding his fortune for a settlement in the accompanying civil lawsuits against him. the appellate court ruled that goodmantted fraud by not giving enough notice of the adoption to the mother of his children. and today's kelly's court is back in session. on the docket, new testimony in the murder and trial of a woman who shot her boyfriend, stabbed him 27 times and slashed his throat in self-defense. a domestic violence expert testifying today in arizona where jodi arias faces a possible death sentence if she's convicted of murdering travis alexander. at first she told investigators she had nothing to do with his death and then she said it was armed

intruders, and then she said she did kill him. admitted once photos emerged showing him with the dead body. but she claimed she did it because he had become physically abusive and to set the court up today is adam housley. >> reporter: you set it up pretty well. this case has been one of those murder trials that captivated many people. and right now, alice laviolette, what alice is trying to do scott peterson-- not scott peterson-- but that he basically tried to, he beat her and caused her to cause her to have the issues which allowed jodi arias to kill travis alexander and basically what she's doing is setting the whole defense you have to say that travis alexander was an abusive guy and that's why jodi arias killed him.

and the prosecution is strong in examination and she didn't do herself any favors, jodi arias was on the stand for 18 days and listen to the testimony. >> and were you crying when you were shooting him? >> i don't remember. >> were you crying when you were stabbing him? >> i don't remember. >> how about when you cut his throat, were you crying then? >> i don't know. >> so take a look then. and you're the one that did this, right? >> yes. >> and you're the same individual that lied about all of this, right? >> yes. >> reporter: and now, compare that crying testimony to this video, this is the interview video from 2008 in the northern california when investigators were interviewing her, they left the room and she did a hand stand and talked to herself. about not putting makeup on for her-- or had to put makeup on for her booking photo. as you can see, megyn, this is a very interesting trial and

goes on. and you i sa, and like scott peterson, capital evaluates you. >> thank you. and mark eiglarsh, and the same pedigree. when the witness does this in court it's not a good sign. bonding with the jury. >> worse is when she remembers every single detail of her life that would make rain-man jealous, but when it comes to why did you stab him 27 sometimes or recall why you slit his throat here to here so deep it went back to the spine. her response with a straight face was, no, i was in fog. i was in a fog. i don't remember. when you deleted photographs from your camera which captured the crime scene and what happened, and then you threw it it in the washing machines you were in a fog. >> yeah, waist in is with an in

and when you made out with ryan hours later you were in a fog. >> yes. >> and with the academic pedigree-- >> we're going to talk about the experts and what if anything they've added to the case right after this. stay with us.

. >> trace: >> doug, what is the purpose of all these mental health experts the defense is putting on? >> the one bright spot, he's not doing the summation. the purpose of the expert is, they're throwing some hail marys. they want to show she had amnesia and ptsd. and that's a collateral issue. doesn't go to whether or not she did the crime. goes to what she might have lied about. when the jury but out their

questions for the expert, they said is it possible she fooled you? i fine that interesting because it's like they don't want to disbelieve the expert. >> have you seen anything in this trial, mark, that bodes well for her? >> only in of the jurors' questions. in of them are asking as if somehow what he is saying is believable and that's a problem because she lied to much to investigators and even the forensic psychologist samuels, he admitted she kempt lying about the intruder therapy and then called at it therapeutic breakthrough. >> and then the prosecutor accused the doctor of having feelings for jodi arias. >> that was a -- amazing; didion hey feelings for her? frustration and anger. i think it was bit of a blunder

by him, and i think -- >> mark made a good point. if you keep this quick and dirty, she can go down like the titanic, but if you drag it out, that's where you can create some confusion. >> too late. too late. i like this prosecutor's passion but he is taking something that should be so simple and he drags it on for days. he gets stuck in the weeds. i admire him greatly but his cross-examination need to be tighter, quick, especially with the latest witness who is just talking in general about domestic violence. so unless he links it up the prosecution can make this a hinge witness. >> he doesn't anyone to cross-examine. we all agree domestic violence happened. last word. >> we lawyers know that self-defense is murder at the impact but they're trying to make it like a battered women's

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