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great book, appreciate you being with us. >> always great, sean, thank you. >> eric: and that's all we have time for this evening, thank you for being with us. we does it now to greta van susteren standing by mrlive on the record. greta. >> and tonight, this one will set you on fire. so are you ready? you are paying thousands of people million of dollars to do nothing. >> the number of people that are awol a day in the federal government, in other words, they're not taking a paid day off, they're not sick, they just don't show up for work and that's a large number that's into the millions of dollars of costs every year and we don't have the management tools to fire somebody mo just doesn't show up for work. >> imagine leadership that knows how to prioritize, to ensure national security and to stop government waste. >> government's going to have to learn to do more with less. it's not the government's money, it's the people's money
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and our children's money because we're borrowing from the next generation to pay for this. >> you aen i know that the federal government wastes hundreds of billions each year. >> and there are dozens of jobs training programs which overlap and duplicate each other. >> cutting waste means more accountability. >> we have great federal employees, the vast majority, but you can't manage an organization if you can't control good work. >> now, you heard right. while the defense department and f.a.a. get ready to furlough critical workers, the federal government is spending millions paying workers who are awol. that means you, the taxpayers are paying them to do nothing. how do you feel about that? washington chief political correspondent byron york. >> good to be here. >> there are two categories and this started with senator tom coburn, two categories, stand by and awol. >> the first is awol. obviously, if a worker is not
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at work, he should have permission to not be at work and leave and what coburn discovered when he did a study was that a lot of federal workers would just not show up for part of the day, a day, whatever. and the number has grown. he found that between 2001 and 2007, that the number of hours that federal government workers were awol almost doubled and it's, now it's 9,400 work years a year. so, it's like 9,400 employees who don't show up. so he's arguing that if we're going to be furloughing people for sequestration, furloughing people in critical jobs, meat inspectors or air traffic contollers, why don't we look at this. >> and the other sort of disturbing thing which they say you can't fire people who don't show up from the government. >> if you look the at the firing rates for the government versus the private sector, he no comparison at all. it's incredibly difficult to get fired from the federal government, just essentially
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doesn't happen. >> it's stunning and then there's the other category that senator tom coburn isolated and that's the people who we pay, that are receiving stand by pay. i have two questions, what is that and how do i get at that job? >> these are people who the management feels might be needed on a particular day, but are not definitely needed so he they're asked to stay close and be ready to come in and they're paid for it. so, i mean, coburn found i think 13 million dollars just last year spent keeping workers on stand by. >> if they come in we pay them, too, for their time. >> absolutely. and there are a couple of categories that are interesting, one called workers who are not working on official time. and that is, for example, a worker who spends a lot of his time doing union duties. where perhaps he's a stop steward or something. they're actually paid by the federal government and they do almost no work for the federal
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government and this is an enormous almost, 155 million dollars in 2011. 1,632 people all doing nonofficial work. and the last is people who are idle because they're waiting for security clearance so, you know, the government employs hundreds of thousands of contractors, a lot of times those contractors after they're hired cannot do the job they were hired for until they get security clearance. the process can take months and months and months, and coburn estimated maybe spends a billion dollars a month paying workers to do nothing until they get the clearance to do the job they were hired to do. >> even that would make sense if they're going to hire someone and can't get the security clearance done in six months and don't leave your other job and not put them on the federal payroll until the security clearance. some of the stuff is stupid. >> it's maximum waste the way
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we're doing it. the interesting thing about sequestration, it's allowed budget hawks like coburn to go to the file cabinet and look at the things they have been talking about for years, about wasteful spending, before you furlough critical workers, do this, or do this. i mean, he's got a lot of examples here. >> but being a budget hawk, it's common sense and frankly, decency. why are we paying people just to sort of stand by? why are we paying people awol. it's a lot of of things that are disturbing the american people trying to hang on to their jobs in the private sector and hear what's going on in washington. a lot of federal workers work overtime and don't get paid, i don't mean to take away from them, but there's so much waste. >> a lot of what coburn has learned has been from federal workers who were disturbed by what they saw going on in the federal government. so you're right, a large number of federal workers, this is not a problem at all, but they don't like what's going on inside the
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government. >> according to a congressional research memo dated march 28th, sort of breaks down what the department, for instance, the department of health and human services has 148 employees who received stand by pay. >> well, and this is a case where coburn in this letter has asked for a justification of all of this kind of stuff and here again, the there are several different categories, a billion dollars a month where the federal government is just throwing money away. >> and we can't keep the white house tours open for the kids in town. byron, thank you. >> thank you. >> okay, are you a victim of our government and have you finally had it? wisconsin senator ron johnson might be looking for you. he's trying to crack down on government regulations that are essentially strangling americans and in some instances ruining their lives. senator johnson, launched a new project called victims of government. senator johnson is here to tell you more. good to see you and twhat is th you've started? >> well, greta, your opening
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story talking about the inefficiency or ineffecti ineffectiveness of government. we're talking far too often the government is abusive and we're trying to put a human face to some of that governmental and bureaucratic abuse and our first video here highlights steven lathrop, a gentleman just trying to create economic activity by developing a neighborhood actually who was trying to solve a flooding problem in a neighborhood and basically followed what the recommendation was of the army corps of engineers to take a dumb flooded turned into a lake, the moment he did it the army corps of engineers saying that's a wetland and you've got to turn the westland into its original state. and 20 years later he's on the verge of bankruptcy because of bureaucratic abuse. >> it's stunning and i've watched the video and i'm posting it it on greta wire
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and the viewers can see it what happened to the man because of government bureaucracy. what i like about your project, i've got a couple of the letter you've written to the commanding chief of engineers at u.s. army corps of engineers. and senator clare mccaskill is a signatory, this is a bipartisan effort to at least help this man? >> listen senator coburn is our ranking member on homeland security. senator tom carpenter is supportive of this and senator clare mccaskill in the subcommittee. the homeland security has an awful lot of oversight capability and that's what we're dedicated to doing the next couple of years, that's a bipartisan effort. these are a bunch of senators who want to take a look at government and make sure it's as efficient and effective and unabusive as possible so i'm looking forward the next couple of years, we're certainly soliciting more americans to tell their stories so we can basically show the anecdotal piece of
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evidence and start correcting these problems. >> if you're out there watching us and you think you've been in regulation hell with the government, red tape hell, whatever you want to call it, where do they go on your website? what do they do so they can at least pitch their problem to you? >> well, they can certainly go to my senate website, ronjohnson .senate.gov and conduct our oversight committees and financial and of the homeland security committee and we will certainly get in contact with them and track down this story and we'll do everything we can to help them navigate their way through the federal bureaucracy. >> don't you sometimes get enormously frustrated? you're out of the private sector and you're coming to washington and you heard the first story we're paying for employees awol. we've got stand by employees doing nothing that we're paying. so much government waste. now you go out and find the story in illinois this man for 20-some years fighting the government and now about to go bankrupt. and it must drive you nuts. >> greta, i'm enormously
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frustrated 100% of the time. listen, the reason our founding fathers wanted a limited government they realize that as the government grew our freedoms receded. they were not efficient and effective and we've got to return to the founding principles and limit the federal government, govern closely. and mccaskill and others are geing on board, i can't imagine anyone wants to see anyone strangled by regulations and i assume that fundamentally people want to make this go better? >> the wonderful thing about anecdotal stories, it puts a human face on the abuse and it's almost impossible not to feel sorry for these individuals and the more example of government abuse, the easier it's going to be for us to actually pass legislation to fix it. >> how did you find this man, the one we put the video on greta wire, how did you find him or did he find you? >> we have a concept putting a face to government abuse so we started, you know, searching
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the internet for some stories and this one really popped out. we contacted steven lathrop and he had a blog, i think he published back in 2003. we found it, and of course, he's just a small individual and doesn't get the publicity, so we're trying to utilize the offices of the united states senate and our homeland security subcommittee to make that, this story public so that again, we start solving these problems. i take it you've seen a lot of this where the government regulations, government bureaucracy and several different government agencies trying to deal with certain, with the same situation. i assume that there are a lot of them out there? >> well, i think-- it's going to be a long series. we've had close to 39,000 views of this video. we've had dozens of people sharing their stories already and again, i really encourage any american coming under the yolk of the federal government abuse, please contact our office, we'll look into it and if you want us to public size your story, we're going to be happy to do that for you. >> senator, thank you.
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and enjoy green bay. >> will do, have a great night, greta. >> thanks, sir. okay, what about you? do you feel like you've been the victim of government regulation or you know somewhere. go to gretawire.com and tell us, there is a hope thread. and speaker john boehner declaring victory over president obama and democrats. in a memo, speakerer boehner touted the success for the tactical plan, why the memo and why not? politico director joins us, what's up with the memo, why now? >> why now? the speaker of the house has a lot to be proud of over the last couple of months as republicans taken things. look where they started the year and come off the beating of the election last year and when speaker boehner barely survived a challenge to his leadership he's been able to hold the party together and they're home in the middle of a two week recess. hearing from constituents and this is a chance to buck up
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his guise and say let's stay the course, we've got to be feeling good about what's in the party. >> that's the middle? >> that's a congratulatory, in the memo. they have the fiscal cliff and then they have the mega clich cliffs. possible default on the government debt and what the republicans decided to do let's pick them off the table and could lead to bad things not only for the party, but for the country and try to fight our hands in a big are way and therefore, they have punted on some things and pushed off things where they were able to hold firm on automatic budget cuts and stop the line on president obama raising taxes, something he's tried to do as part of the deficit solution and the party is remarkably unified from where they started the year. >> how did they get the tea party people sort of inside the tent? that really was sort of the problem trying to keep everybody inside the tent for the speaker? >> that's the question he for the speaker going forward and said famously at the beginning of the session after the
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election there is no tea party caucus to speak of in the house of representatives and reminded the speaker of their presence over and over again and he has to deal with them, but i think, there was a moment of maturity for the party for also the tea party to be able to say, look, we know we can have this big confrontation with the president, but let's take our chips back a little bit because we have a bigger bet, a bigger play down the road so i think the speak are led them through that and it's hard to some stomach any stem of congress patting themselves on the back, but if you look at perspective of party unity and the hand he was dealt. he's got things to be proud of. >> when i was asking about the difficulty trying to keep his party together he once described, what's it like, he says it's having a wheel barro with 30,000 frogs in it and jumping out. >> he didn't mention gun control or immigration in the memo, it's strictly economic. those are two big topics on the horizon. they are big topics and come up as soon as they get back
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from the recess, an immigration in the senate and a gun bill as well and the house has taken a wait and see attitude towards these things. and they know it's the president's agenda on immigration, a growing knowledge that republicans have to get on board or otherwise get run over the train. gun control is slower going and resisting some of the things we are talking about. widespread background checks. you saw the president today pretty tired up on that subject. >> and you haven't mentioned the majority leader eric cantor, what's his relationship? >> it's been strained and cantor voted against boehner on the fiscal cliff deal a signal to a lot of folks he's waiting in the wings, but i tell you, it's actually a moment where the two of them have been pulling together more than usual. there's a tension in the relationship and a lot of folks think that if cantor put his name in the ring he could have ousted boehner for speaker. he's quieted things down and you see remarkable unity in the republican leadership because they realize for better or worse they've got
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the budget cuts going on and able to hold the line on what the president is trying to dofrjts it's interesting he's able to, the republican party within the house seems to be on the same page because boy, they were not before and there's so many different issues and i can't, for the life of me, i can't figure out what speaker boehner do? usually you hand out chits to the different members, but there's left to hand out. i can't figure out why it's gone together? >> in a weird way, getting beaten as badly as they did strengthened his hand and reminded the members we have to stick together otherwise we're going to be irrelevant. and more success in getting his own members to pull together maybe as a result of that than if they had been victorious. >> maybe they realized if they don't stick together they're not going to win anything. >> thank you. >> thank you, greta. >> straight ahead, is senator rand paul at it again? part of it you saw the exhausting 13-hour filibuster. this time he's vowing to do it again and this time he's not
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>> explaining president obama over gun control, now, today. president obama appearing with the parents of the newtown school shooting victims. to pressure congress to approve his gun control measures. and accusing the president of the exploiting the newtown tragedy and to filibuster new measures. nice to see you, sir. >> thank you, it's great to be with you. >> all right, i have a copy of the letter dated march 22nd. with your signature on it and senator rand paul and senator ted cruz telling senator harry reid that you're going to filibuster gun control legislation. are you still planning to do that? >> yes, you know, what we're insisting on, greta, is a 60-vote margin. we think that anytime congress wants to take away the constitutionally protected rights of american citizens it
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ought not do so for light and transient reasons and ought not do so with one party, the party in control of that body, just exercising its prerogative without any bipartisan support. that's why we think it's fair to demand a 60-vote threshold and that's what we've done. >> greta: is there any gun control legislation you could live with. or are you a purist, no gun control legislation. >> in theory there could be. but based on what i've seen so far and what's gone through the senate judiciary committee on which i sit, i haven't seen any bill that would solve this problem and what i have seen is a lot of bills that would take away the rights of law abiding americans. we have to remember, greta, there are two groups of americans out there. there's one group of people that will obey the law, predictbly almost regardless what the law says, there's another group of people that probably not going to obey the law regardless of what it says. we've got to look out for the
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interest of the americans who are law abiding and the proposals i've seen moving through the senate so far would do precisely there, restrict the rights of the law abiding and that's of concern to me. >> greta: what proposals do you have? >> well, i think it's important for us to focus on getting mental health care providers to communicate with family members and police officials where necessary when they see somebody who's dangerous you know, to advise them. let's keep this person away from guns. watch them carefully, if they do something wrong, apprehend them, or in all event maybe sure their family helps them stay away from guns, but i don't have all the answers. but what i do know-- >> can you legislate that? i'm trying to think even if that's something that could be legislated without having everybody in the country round up and hauled off. >> right, and i don't know that you can legislate that. i certainly doe know if that's amenable to an act of kong, but what i'm saying is that the solution to a problem that
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arises when somebody breaks a law or in the case of any one of these mass shooting incidents, 15 or 20 laws, the solution is not necessarily let's go pass nor law and let's fast a law through congress, especially as with the case of these proposals, what you'd have is a law at the end of the day that would do far more to restrict the rights evof americans than to reduce violence in america. >> is there any proposal that the president is suggesting or has gone through the senate judiciary committee that you could live with, vote for or at least where it stand now? >> not one that is moving through the judiciary committee and headed toward the floor right now. every one of these has a serious flaw in one way or another in that it restricts far more activity of the law-abiding americans than it ever would restrict actual gun
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violence. >> greta: well, it looks like you've had more to join the filibuster since the letter. the letter had you and senator cruz and rand paul and now looks likes senator mar is alsoh a filibuster. and maybe even senator inhoff, i'm not sure, that's had a question mark. do you know of any other senators who are going to join you? >> i don't know of any other senators who are going to join me so far. i welcome others to join us, i expect this could become a bipartisan issue. i ran an amendment to the budget resolution last week calling for a supermajority vote in congress. anytime we're going to pass legislation that would restrict second amendment rights and we've got 50 senators who voted for it only 49 against it and among those 50 who voted for it, there were six democrats. >> greta: so you think you'll actually get-- do you think you'll get a democratic senator to join you gentlemen on a filibuster of gun control legislation? you think that? >> we would love to have them
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join us. i'm not sure that any will, but what i'm saying, it would be consistent with the vote that six democratic senator cast last week. it would also be consistent with the principle that anytime we're restricting a congressionally protected right, we ought to make sure that there is broad bipartisan consensus for whatever we're doing. we certainly shouldn't undertake a restriction of constitutional rights casually. we shouldn't make it too easy and that's what we're about doing here. making sure that we get a 60-vote margin. a 60-vote threshold on any legislation that would do that. >> greta: senator, thank you for joining us, sir. >> thank you. >> greta: coming up, if you live in new york you might want to take off running right now. find out why. that's next. also donald trump is famous for tweets like this one. everybody should cancel h.b.o. until they cancel low life until they cancel low life bill [ dentist ] with so many toothbrushes to choose from,
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>> this is not a science fiction movie, robots and computers may soon take over the jobs of some american workers. the wall street journal reporting small business owners may have to replace low wage workers with technology and according to the paper, it's all thanks to president obama's call for a minimum wage increase and the cost of
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obamacare. the measure meant to help workers. the owner of just cupcakes joins us. nice to see you, carla. >> thank you so much. >> greta: tell me the impact. i mean, i know a little of the story is that you have a number of employees and what, about ten employees? >> well, we have an about 25 employees overall, yes, ten minimum wage. >> greta: and the ten that are minimum wage, what's the expectation? what are you going to do about them? >> you know, they're great workers and we love having them, but certainly if the minimum wage goes up, we'll have to make some drastic changes. >> greta: what is the the job that the minimum workers-- minimum wage workers have in your business? >> their job is to take the order, fill the order, greet the customer, and ring it up, and you know, send them on their way. >> greta: and i take it, i mean, if there's some sort of technology or something that you could do to replace them,
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is that it? i mean, a lot of people can't be replaced by robots or technology? >> well, not everybody can be replaced by technology, but you know, with pa small business you're looking to make small changes to help your bottom line, and if i reduce half or more than that of some of the customer service employees, instead of having two people up front, one person taking orders and one filling orders or ringing them up, i could simply have something like an ipad or tablet of some type where you could punch in what you want because the cupcakes are already on display, you can do wonderful things with technology and save the labor rates. >> greta: is there any way if minimum wage is raised, any way you can raise the price of cupcakes? or do you think that will diminish your sales. >> he no. >> greta: no? >> no, it will kill my sales. i still one item. our name is just cupcakes, so
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you know, there is a price for a cupcake, we charge $3. you can't charge, you can't pass on an increase like that, which would ultimately probably be around $5 whenever you include what the employment taxes would do to us. you can't pass that on and that's what our business has been built about, and that's the success of our business has been for the past almost five years, so, it's kind of late in the game to want to change everything, you know, for us to change our menu items and we just can't absorb that. >> how is business doing? give me a little-- in the last two or three years until now, is it improving or tougher? what's it like? what's the business climate? >> you know, business, having a small business is hard. but our business has constantly gro constantly grown. the banks are happy, customers are happy, we've followed the business plan and modest increases each year.
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we turned a profit before we were supposed to turn a profit and i was able to open up a store and now we have a food van, but it came from a lot of careful planning and our future looks really good unless something like this would happen. >> greta: what about health care? is that something you provide your employees? >> no, ma'am. no. we've got less than 50-- i'm sorry? >> you have less than 50 so you don't have to. >> no. >> greta: so i take it that if they raise the minimum wage, it will put a significant crimp in your business? >> it's literally the difference between profitability and not. i mean, it's that clear-cut for us. we make gourmet cupcakes and we use great ingredients. we have razor-thin margins, we could not absorb that increase, no way. >> greta: carla, thank you, and good luck with your business. >> thank you so much. >> greta: now to a new study that shows americans are on
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the move, but it is where they're moving that's grabbing everyone's attention. the study shows people are migrating from less free liberal states to other states. and making more money. john is here to explain that. nice to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> greta: who did this study? >> it's done by the mercada center out and the authors are political scientists at two universities. >> greta: are you satisfied it's comprehensive and good data? >> oh, yeah, they looked at everything. a lot of the studies look at business friendliness, they'll look at a few things and texas will show up as the most business friendly state, for instance, they looked at a wide range of freedom measures, so taxes, regulations, how easy is it to get a license, to be a hair dresser, how abusive is the
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state at taking property for public use. and various measures are personal freedom as well. so, it's very comprehensive. they've had dozens of measures. >> greta: all right. new york looked like the worst place to live. i looked at the study and that looked like, if i looked at new york, i'd run. >> new york came out dead last, way below. >> greta: why? >> because they have high taxeses. they have a lot of regulations. they have rent control in new york city. they have very little personal freedom as they measure it in the study. so, yeah, on every measure they did pretty bad. >> greta: i think they've lost-- population declined 9% in had a period of about what, ten years or so? >> the interesting thing about the study he they compared freedom to migration and income. and what happened in new york is that that migration, i mean, more people moved out than moved in. so on balance, it's ended up being a negative 9% over the past ten years. >> greta: where is the freest-- where are people migrating to?
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using the data that they collected, what state came out ahead? >> well, the freest state was north dakota. and the second freest was south dakota. now, north dakota population was steady and disadvantages in terms of location. california, however, lost 4% of its population even though it has great amenities and great weather and california came out as the second worst in terms of freedom. >> greta: that's interesting because i know that north dakota has a new oil business and they've got unemployment rate that hovers around 2 or 3% because of it. so, i mean, there are lots of jobs there. i always sort of thought that people would sort of move when california want the sun and the ocean, but that people would chase jobs. >> well, the thing is that, the strongest indicator in their measure in terms of freedom and prosperity and
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growth was regulatory burdens and it makes sense. because businesses are looking for places that they could grow and not be overly burdened by taxes and regulation. and so the strongest connection was between regulatory freedom and migration and income growth. >> greta: it's interesting, all the states are sort of trying to push down their corporate tax so they can attract more business and of course they will have more jobs and more freedom if they're not taxed as much so it's sort of interesting as i watch people chasing jobs. >> what they found was this every freedom index was an attraction. if you just looked at personal freedom, states that had more personal freedom had more people moving in. states that had more regulatory freedom had people moving in and states that had more economic freedom had people moving in. >> greta: how about healthy economic state of the state? is that one of the measures? i mean, that the states that were freest would be the stronger economically or not so strong? >> yeah, i mean, what's
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happened, of course, is that if you lower your taxes, if you keep rglations in check, if you keep government spending in check and debt in check, you're going to have more prosperity, you're going to have more growth. it's very contrary to the kind of policy that we're pursuing as your he' segments are indicating, where nationwide we're kind of moving in the opposite direction, more regulation, higher taxes. the states are a great laboratory to test these economic theories and if you look at the study, what it seems to be showing pretty clearly is that lower taxes and less regular lays is the way to go. >> greta: john, thank you, nice to see you. >> thank you very much. >> greta: coming up, is the united states sending a strong and stealth message to north korea? the message is next. and actor jim carrey coming under fire for spoofing charlton heston. well, now there's a spoof of jim carrey is really made of cheese?
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>> tonight the spoofer gets outspoofed. we showed you the parody video that jim carrey made. it mocked n.r.a. member, charlton heston ♪ his movies are not in demand ♪ ♪ angels wouldn't take him up to heaven like he planned ♪ ♪ because they couldn't pry that gun from his cold dead hand ♪ . >> greta: tables are turned. and a video parody making fun of jim carrey's video. ♪ sometimes stars get armed guards when they make a million buckers ♪ ♪ and call you heartless mother (bleep) who want the same ♪ ♪ is it the fame ♪ >> okay, now it's your turn. we're here! we're going to the park! [ gina ] oh hey, dan! i really like your new jetta! and you want to buy one like mine
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>> the u.s. send egg message to north korea with two u.s. b-stealth bombers flying to north south korea for an exercise. what does that say to north korea. >> hi, greta. >> why did we do this? >> we did this as a sort of counter to the north korean provocation. they have been ratcheting up the scale, making the threats thread pronouncements of destroying b-52 bombers in guam and attack and fire artillery into the south. this is general j.d. thurman's answer back. look, we have done this before with you with b-52s, back in the 70s. we have precision-strike capabilityful you don't. we are going to fly a b-52 from missouri and drop two bombs. we made our statement. >> i mean -- if we were dealing with a regime that responded to that kind of thing, i mean, i
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always -- i mean, we are now dealing with nuclear weapons on their end. >> right, right. >> you know, we don't know how they are going to respond to this. if they are going to see this as such a huge personal insult. and seoul is so close to pyongyang and our soldiers are so close, i wonder where this is going to lead. >> you hit this right on the head, the big fear is miscalculation. he is 28 years old. he chases women and he drinks crown royal and he's isolated. he has sacked if not killed some of his senior military leaders. he is not getting great advice. the great fear, as it was in 1950 and 2013, diswlaiz somebody is going to miscalculate and kim jung un is going to do something stupid and this will ratchet up this escalatory treadmill. >> he has run out of things to do. he is running out of things to
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do. that's what bothers me. there are not a lot of options left for him -- to save face. that's the problem i felt there is one. the people i talked to in south korea are not worried about a nuclear rocket attack. they are worried about a -- artillria barrage, across the dmc, just to put fire power in his threats. the difference between now and 2011 is that the south koreans have promised that they were going to retaliate with greater force. that's where the danger of miscalculation comes. >> they lost the boat -- about 140 sailors. >> in south korea, they didn't do anything -- or they didn't do much. >> and the president says this time, they have a plan. they are going to retaliate. and this gets you into real escalation with real bombs and rockets and that's the great fear. >> here's what the north korean news agency says south korea's military was behaving like a puppy, knowing no fear of a tiger. >> okay.
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let's put that into perspective. they have conventional forces that are decayed tremendously over the last 10 years because they can't afford to feed the troops. they have some ability for short-range missiles. but they and north korea know if they do something stupid like attack the south, rather than provoke the south, that -- >> but they have to have a sense of self-preservation. if they don't have that, that's the problem. >> some of the talk inside the pentagon is that what kim jung un is trying to do is establish his international credibility and establish himself with his own people and his military leadership. >> general, thank you. >> straight ahead, hollywood is not known for its affinity for the republican party. but one g.o.p. senator has a new friend. stay tuned. shoot. now with the share everything plan from verizon, connect your camera, along with your smartphone and tablet. all your devices connected
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>> it's time to hash it out. you would think being a chief justice of the supreme court would give you some protection, right? well, "the washington post" reporting chief justice john roberts hit by credit card fraud. what are the chances of that one? and who is the lame-brain who thought that was a good idea? it looks like senator mark kirk has a new friend. check out the picture, the senator tweeting thanks jennifer aniston for the well
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wishes, that's a signed photo of movie star jennifer aniston wishing him to get well soon. he had suffered a stroke and. and a burglar tries to break a window. this guy must have flunked out of burglary school. he tried to break into the grocery store and shut out and triggering the alarm. he tried to flee, but the curb got in his way and the suspect is still at large and is large, too, be on the lookout for a bungling burglar with a bad fashion sense. >> about to have an empty char on the set of theview. barbara walters to retire. she's expected to retire in may 2014. that means she would step down from abc news and the "the view", making tv history. the first woman who co-host a
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>> greta: donald trump is a legend in the twitter universe but does that get him in hot water. >> sometimes when you tweet,
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you get yourself in trouble. you say cock eyed things. we don't know if you mean them. do your kids say easy? you're a little here or there? >> they love me and want to make sure that everything gets left to them. >> well, yeah. >> sometimes they'll say things for a reason. >> you understand? >> sure. >> ivanka will say daddy... what a brilliant thing to say. i mean, you know? they're very supportive but the twitter thing, tweeting thing does get new trouble. you say things you and think it's cute and smart, it comes back to haunt you. >> you kind of live there. >> i like it. >> yeah. >> greta: donald tweets thanks for the comments about the late show last night. i enjoyed it and david

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