we miss you barry. i'm glad you are missing this. carry on. [ laughter ] ♪ ♪ >> i'm eric boling. along with the panel and it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." >> eric: jim carrey just caved after embarrassing himself making fun on middle america and charlton mess hes ton and gutfeld is will be on it. the bible, the mini series that people can't get enough of, more than 10 million viewers. that is special heartening for me there is a high percentage of young people tuning in. we have a sneak peek of the final chapter which is the story

of the crucifixion, burial and rising of jesus christ. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> eric: so bob, why do you think it is resonating with americans and especially with young ones? >> bob: first of all, we still

are subjected quite a religious country. it is easter week. i think if you look back at the history of movies and tv shows that have dealt with the issue of the bible and with jesus, they have done very well. so this is not a surprise. the surprise to me the, two and others don't do more of it. that is what surprises me. >> eric: ten million viewers, everyone would love to have that. why don't we see more people producing these kinds of shows. >> greg: good question. i didn't watch the bible because i know how it ends. i have to tell you it's great to see a show like the bible beat everything on tv. i doubt anything hollywood as much since the price of cocaine and hookers that much. there is a culture that views religion as competition. there are three agents, campus and government. and aussie religion as former

competition, one they don't believe religion should be necessary. therefore, if you believe in god it makes it almost impossible to believe in your marxist professor. >> eric: 37% of america calls themselves christians or at least really to the christian philosophy but the growing sector, the most -- i'm sorry, the sector that is growing the most is called the nuns. atheist people that describe to none of the above. ten years ago there was 15% in america, now it's up to 20%. what is going on. >> andrea: i think the culture has gotten so coarse that people are loan any li in the since they are groping for something outside of themselves. the culture doesn't provide it in this country. all the culture gives us is materialism, general diversions from life. it does, right, it doesn't

provide significant meaning. eric, 50 years ago you saw regularly packing churches and people were involved in conference and used it as form of identity. it gave people meaning and helped them lead healthier lives. people are groping for something. they seem to be looking towards government. it's ironic that all of the major networks find a way to keep jesus and christ out of their programming or a way to mock christianity. they are never thinking of a way to tell the greatest story that ever was. >> eric: i think was in the "washington post", he said that america is growing more and more polarized, not more secular in where religion plays in society. >> dana: i think mike is on to something here. other people have sort of expressed this as the change has happened over time, you can look

more now to the second decade of the 21st century to say why is that happening and why does it matter? does it matter? i think in policy and politics it does, and certainly in entertainment the big networks that have all the great shows over the many years, that started to change about ten years ago with reality tv. reality tv programs are inexpensive compared to a big undertaking like the bible. cable stations all across the speck trim are producing much better television. it's that unsatisfying sugar high from watching one reality show you want to see something of substance. great acting and tells us something about communicating to the younger people and it's visual. everything that they look, if you study the revolution, you read the story about the evolution and then you click on

the links about george washington being sworn in as the first president. >> i wouldn't say our country is polarized by religion but i think we stored it in the attic and replaced witness more contemporary which is pornography and other things that consume people's time. i think its rejection of truth. we are seeing the end of truth and embracing relativism which goes, once you let go of religion you let go the idea of absolute truth and therefore you have people who are worried about childhood obesity as their soul is starving. i don't know. >> bob: what you point right there. can we point some blame at that for, what 12 or 15 mass shootings last year. the crumbling of american society? >> greg: those things are awful,

but they are rare and the worst one was six or seven decades ago right? the worst mass killing. we have killed way more people long time ago in major wars. i'm not sure soe sure you can point to that. >> bob: couple points: the message and values of christ the idea of forgiveness of sins, of loving one another and not materialistic to society runs countered to american culture. i happen to be a totaler and strong one is the attacks and existence of jesus have now been debuwlgsd. everybody accepts the fact there was jesus that was crucified. muslims and jews, most people accept it. i think his message which is so enduring have never been able to knocked down but kept away from

people. >> 73% of americans believe what you say, bob, that there was jesus christ. there may be various versions after the crucifixion but 73% say there was. >> i think they are starving for this kind of message. it's the same reason why people are celebrating pope francis for the way he tried to emulate what jesus did on earth. all you see on tv is the family break breakdown and people's lives falling apart. the message of christ is so inspirational. if you look at the me len yal generation, one thing they say is they don't like discrimination. the message of jesus, their parents aren't taking them to church, they starving for something edifying. maybe they didn't know this was the message of christ. so this a great opportunity. >> eric: it's a great.

the previous generations, a lot of them are young people. younger people almost 4 million younger people tuned in. and listen to romy. she sums this up nicely. >> it's just phenomenal. i think god is moving. i think that millions and millions of people are hungry for spiritual programming. it's engaged the country in a conversation which is great to talking about faith and talking about the bible. >> bob: this is another reason why there ought to be more of this on television. there are very few younger people in church. this is their medium and they see the story of jesus and they are curious about it. they don't want to be hauled off to church on sunday morning but to hear the message of christ.

god bless the people that are doing it. it drew young people in, what a phenomenal thing. >> i think what is interesting how and good thing how curious they are. i read a piece today, first time i read the next generation, it's called the cynic. they don't trust government or institutions and very little trust in sports figures anymore. perhaps this is their curiosity even if they are not believers they are curious and want to know more. >> bob: the generation here now. >> greg: the thing i wonder about, you see the detachment of religion, why do the young pride themselves on being so rebellious when they turn into sheep when they enter a campus and they adopt and anti-american stance instead of being a true rebel would actually explore

ideas, explore religion which is a difficult arena to explore. the bible is hard to read. >> bob: i don't think it's fair they become anti-american. i think it's not cool to go to church. if you go to church every weekend you are considered a weirdo. >> greg: it drifts down. you learn that anything is considered traditional, the things that made the country great is seen as uncool and stupid. meanwhile, you have people who rebel against that. >> andrea: it's so courage on ios to stand up for it. everyone who goes along like a sheep. it's very easy to go along and mock people that are religious because they see entertainment doing it all the time. they always make them out to be something crazy. they are holy rollers and it's

shameful. >> eric: and reason why it drifts down from the campus, liberal campuses, we understand why that happens but the state schools, they say, no, you can't pray, you can't put a crucifix up. >> bob: please don't put it on the coming campuses. >> eric: we have a disagreement there. >> greg: you know, look, religion over time it becomes less a part of somebody's life as they get more material goods. >> we learned it's not called campuses, in elementary schools, they are not allowed to say the word easter. >> i go to church and there are were more young people showing up at that church. >> greg: that is club called the church. i told you.

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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ so the jim carrey gun control video wasn't about the second amendment. it was jim carrey embracing false intelligence. sort of like america's drone program. we it is fitting car rey ridiculing the late charlton heston. there were three but pope jokes as old as the pope. that is why our country is great because washed up comics have the right to suck. based on that jason and carrey

are civil rights pioneers, they are jackie robinsons of sucking. i love the first amendment and twitter exposes the soft underbelly of the celebrity simple mind. they undo everything their publicist try to map. but really, if you want to create the illusion of edge, take a risk. stop choosing targets that are approved by your peers. your funny, i.i.d., your dates and agents. it's why jimmy attack gun owners and not gang bangers and jimmy thought he couldn't lose to a dead man. that is what a really fun, he did. now charlton heston has a brighter future in film than jim carrey.

>> you got it. >> press release which is basically meltdown. this is what i love about this, let me read one sentence and i will get to the funny parts. in my opinion, i won't say the last resort for kind of sort of journalists and have extreme intolerant views. let me explain. this is guy that insulted most of america and dance order the grave of charlton heston. jim carrey is threatening in this letter, threatening legal action something that that charlton heston can't do because she dead. that is the whole point. to stand up that couldn't talk to a fool like jim carrey. he first tweeted about this on monday. basically what he said that all gun owners -- i can't say the word. >> mf.

>> then he re-tweeted. he was like a a little baby. >> then he retweeted all the compliments and ignored all the criticism. >> should he have released this? >> it started all new at 21st century with a cute video and tweets because he said you are not going like this. in order to apologize, kind of, he issued a old-fashioned press release with like a date line. if i was the press secretary, i would have said yes, of course we will release the statement immediately. and then pretended and it all went away by monday. >> greg: he calls us bullies. a gun owners are doomed and taking a bad shot at the bad

guy. >> "f" news is so childish. where this can they find this? i will laugh when you read this. the mind of jim carrey. you know, when we first talked about this, it came and to me. he was bright guy. he was funny comedian. he has lost it. he has melted down. i think he is just out there. >> dana: when bill hahers says something he actually arguments on the merits. but jim carrey didn't even though noe. >> andrea: i don't think he knows how to engage. he was a very talented actor but he doesn't want to you see the real jim carrey. he uses what he thinks is comedy. he calls us, we have petty behavior -- the picture with the foe mustache. we can't make a salient point.

he engages in behavior by demeaning our country. by the way, aren't you canadian. wait a minute. you might have to ridicule canadians because they may fall into that class. >> bob: last week with cbs they apologized with some dignity, i think. first of all, i would sue you guys but you have no brains. you talk out of your arse. come and sue us. >> dana: i don't know what he would sue for? he started witnessed the video. >> bob: he said slandered him. i would take him legally if it was worth my time. >> i apologize. i want to bring up jason baits. but this is what he said the jason baits tweeted, ugh, fine,

quoting pope francis after being told he could no low kiss his preferred body parts. >> bob: first of all, to do that in holy week is beyond the pale, beyond that what the pope was doing, what jesus taught him to do. he said i'm a servant to these kids. to make fun of that -- i don't know who this jerk is. >> andrea: the pope is known for reaching out to the poor and carrying on the mission of christ. jason is known for sticking his wean they are a pie. a man of substance. >> come kiss my feet. [ laughter ] >> bob: he insulted, i don't know a billion, 1.2 billion people around the world.

you go after the pope. he the holy man. >> greg: he won't do mohammad, would he? >> is he crying for attention. it's like they are desperate because their careers are flailing but when they do this stuff, they are silencing it. >> greg: he went to nickelodeon. >> bob: and to get out $5,000 night venue but it's going to a thousand. >> remember when celebrities were cool, steve mcqueen, but now they are so predictable and sad. >> andrea: and very sad. >> eric: are they all trying to raise the bar on others ridiculousness and vicious disgusting attacks. >> andrea: they are thinking, what can i do to be attacked by fox news and get all this answer

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new york and runners up, california, new jersey and yes, hawaii and rhode island. not surprisingly free states tend to be red ones. the study every year they come out of it. it has a lot to do with economic freedom but also freedom from excessive government regulation. i was reading about how california, it's so hard to do business and people are moving. >> eric: we took the ten top freest states, and ten least free states. highest tax rates in each state. not for the ten least free. the top freest states average, top rate, 3.9% state income tax. least free, 7.8. what do you notice about it's exactly double.

it's hundred percent higher than the other ten freest states in the union. i would like to know if these are republican governors and stated houses. i have a hunch they would be the freer state. by the way, the way they figured this out is taxes and economic freedoms and regulations. >> dana: one of the keys, if you are right to work state and also the right to work and in fact michigan became a right-to-work state. we see how that fares but most of the growth is happening in the lower part of the united states. they say a lot of this is not weather-related, its job related. you look at the states and they are moving to unshackle their economies, texas is an example. i don't think it makes the top list surprisingly. new york, california, new jersey very deeply blue. they called. it was the bachelor party.

nuisance tax of these states. taxes on cigarettes the way they get to pay for the welfare state. in new york they call it the brain drain. all these people that have access particularly to universities and landscapes and low housing prices are leaving. >> imagine, greg, if north dakota had hawaii's climate? >> it's never like that. we have a great administration. he is inspeishg a biblical migration. he has created refugees in our own nation. people moving from place to place. next stop will be singapore. >> bob: the naysayer, it depends how you define freedom. one study was sponsored.... >> dana: it's actually 40% of dotions come from individuals. think if you are going to throw something out there like that to attack a company. >> bob: let me throw a few things.

ten states that are least free, mississippi, west virginia which are two red states. >> dana: west virginia is not necessarily a red state. >> bob: it's been democratic for a long time but never mind. >> dana: i think it's ununfair to attack them and 40% of the profits are come from individuals. these are facts they looked at. they make a determination. here at fact and here is how much taxes you pay and here is your ability to start a business from conception to figuring out how you can open your doors. that is what this is about. i don't think it's fair to attack them for it. >> greg: the problem is the free versus unfree it doesn't factor into good restaurants. >> bob: and least free of the best universities in the world with the exception of virginia. >> dana: i don't think it's helping your point.

>> and research institutes in the world. based on the past elections, average migration. in the red states there is over 2.5% migration to the state. in the blue states there is a negative migration. >> so people are going to these states. >> they get educated and they leave. you wanted them to stay because their wallets funds the welfare state. the easiest thing to walk. >> bob: and i have problem about regulations and nanny state. i would agree with some of that. some of the rest i wouldn't agree with but what is the definition means free is very much driven by the economy and not other aspects. >> eric: don't you think higher tax rates drive people out?

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church has a new leader. we will take a closer look to pope francis and how he may be bringing people back to the church. great many vine, a classic case a lawmaker makes an inappropriate remark apologizes. he says he didn't mean to cause the offense. we will start at 6:00 eastern but for now we take you back to "the five." ♪ ♪ ♪ >> andrea: we've all told a fib now and then but what about to your partner? should lie to them? some experts are telling tales, they are saying it's good for a relationship. i wanted to find out so i asked a few folks on the streets of new york. >> reporter: is it okay to tell little lies in relationships? >> of course.

keeps the marriage going. >> have you ever told little white lies in relationships. [ laughter ] >> a little lie is best policy. >> reporter: what do you think women life lie about? >> definitely money. >> how much did you spend on it? >> $45 and i really spent $75. >> reporter: what do men lie about? >> everything. >> were you caught? >> two weeks i told her in two weeks. >> i always told the truth. >> does the guilt sometimes get to you? >> yeah, of course. i'm not a very good liar. >> reporter: so you are trying to preserve the relationship? >> that is why lies are for preservation. >> andrea: the women were much more candid than men. men said no, we don't lie about anything. this came out of a "wall street journal" that call it protective buffering. you are trying to not start a

fight with their partner. honey, does this make me look fat? so they may tell a white lie. have you ever? >> i was married for six years and i didn't tell a lie. >> andrea: which is why you are not married anymore? >> every christmas, bring your clothes down for the poor people. my wife would bring down the clothes that would have the price tags on them. are you kidding me you a never wore them, no, i saved the price tags to put them on old garments so people thought they would getting new things. [ laughter ] one researcher say people share too much in relationships and leads to dissatisfaction and avoid answer. so do you ever lie to adrian. >> eric: i have been brutally honest from the very beginning.

no, i'm not sure why she stayed. go out with the guys and drinking and end up at a place but i'm not going to tell her. you know. [ laughter ] >> eric: i did. i silly did. look, i don't do it anymore, but.... >> andrea: so you used to lie? >> you told her about last night? [ laughter ] >> andrea: what happened last night. >> eric: i got home at 11:00 last night. >> andrea: this is why you marry somebody that is 18 years older than you. >> dana: i don't have enough time to lie and remember what you lied about. it's actually one of the reasons i created that policy i don't to go baby showers because i was telling so many lies why i couldn't make it. i'm going to have a blanket policy i never go and that

prevents you from telling a white lie. >> andrea: who lies do you think women or men. >> greg: i hate those baby showers. why we have to be so racist everybody can lie. lies are -- it's like a value list. okay, if you are lying because you broke a vase but if you have been dating her dad, it depends on what kind of lie it is. you can't be fully honest or average marriage would last ten minutes. >> andrea: they say some people tell little lies to preserve peoples feelings. i thought about it -- i thought about this, do i lie? i really don't. no, i don't. i thought i do. when i want to object time on

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♪ ♪ ♪ >> bob: jodi arias trial row assumed on tuesday, i didn't want to do the story. it's been dragging on for three months and costing taxpayers $1.4 million because arias is represented by court appointed attorneys. juan martinez has been posing

for fans outside the courthouse. >> there has been video online of mr. martinez outside the courtroom signing autographs and posing for pictures. this misconduct have been seen by jurors. >> you characterize something that happens outside of court such as taking photographs is not misconduct. >> bob: let me ask you, what is wrong wrong television in courts, they become celebrities. >> andrea: and it's so boring. the presidential event. pool changes every day. maybe that should be done in courtrooms because i can't watch another moment of that. it's driving me crazy. she is giving due process a really bad name. has this been going on for five years? i feel we've done this show for two years.

>> bob: it's been six months, think. >> she was on the stand for 14 or 18 days. that a lot of money to be paying for -- why do they allow it to go on. >> it's due process, it's due, due process. i'm done. >> eric: what is cool about the arizona system, the juror may have seen him having taken pictures. this is capital murder case. jurors aren't sequestered in arizona and able to ask questions. what a great system. so what if they can out and talk and see -- i think the court of public opinion is important. >> bob: you are a fan of the cameras in the courthouse, right? >> yeah. >> i don't agree that the prosecutor should have been signing autographs because he is technically an officer of the court and his role is to make

sure that justice is served and rule of law is served. so i don't think that helps. >> i think it's a total you know what move. in criminal cases a lot of these attorneys take these cases so they can run for higher office which is not good and manipulate the cameras, but i still like the ideas of cameras. the taxpayer issue but you can't have government that has unlimited money go against a person that doesn't have money and court was designed to protect the innocent. >> bob: lord knows, i am for that but this is excessive. there was a juror out of the court and stands around and watches the media who did see martinez what he was doing. i don't know if that prejudicial >> this is the only time in his life martinez is going to want a picture with him. we're used to this.

we walk out of this building and we are swarmed by fans. it's embarrassing and it's scary martinez, first time in his life i want a picture. >> bob: maybe jim carrey will give him an autograph. >> eric: he will be high profile attorney. this guy is really tenant. >> one more thing is up next. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] dunes, desert, or trail,

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time for one more thing and greg is going to kick it off. >> new "redeye" tomorrow. it will be a lot of fun. but first, having said that, all right, if you are about to say that, you about to contradict everything you said and wasted all of our time. if you are going to everything said that, then don't say that first. >> package to my dad and i got a tweet, i hope you still like these. i left them out for a while so they will be crunchy. more than 600 peeps -- 600 million peeps. >> it's airplane glue and cotton. >> we have to go. bob is moving us right along. here is peek at 11:30 a.m. >> the irs boldly going where no

agency has gone before spending your hard earned tax money. more proof it's high time to bring the size of government back down to earth. >> there is money laundering, campaigns is man cures running in the streets. >> hey, remember what is important. enhancing the taxpayer experience. >> i dreamed that i would be rich in sailing this. >> me, too, that is why i became a public servant. >> bob: the two dog lovers on this panel, we know who they are. they seem to make dogs human like the leaders of animal kingdom. can i show you what kind of leaders they are. this is cat, which is about right. dog and cat is taking him someplace to get a cocktail. anyway, there you go for all you

dog lovers the smartest people in the world. >> yesterday, one more thing, i told you about the heart-warming story of caitlin norman that had pediatric cancer and she made a list while she was dying she wanted to attend her high school prom. her fellow students brought the prom to her, that is her date bringing her a corsage. she passed away this morning at 14 years old at 8:19. we feel for her family and for videotaped emotional story, but she is going to spend the weekend in heaven. >> threw go. a wonderful story. i'm delighted you brought it to us. >> andrea: when i saw it happened this morning, i have to do the follow-up. it's encouraging she is heaven. she is in m