>> brian: tomorrow holly robinson peet, john lester, the ace of the red sox staff. >> steve: a busy show and a busy after the show show. go to our web site to watch us live and we'll see you tomorrow. bill: as we begin a whole new week, fox news alert. manhunt still underway and community on alert after the murder of a direct attorney. kaufman county, texas, d.a., mike mcclellan, and his wife incident cynthia were found shot to death in their home over the weekend. police are stepping up security to protect other district attorneys. that is where we start. here on "america's newsroom." welcome back to you. martha: good to be here. very nice week off, thank you. thank you. hey, everybody, i'm martha maccallum. this is a terrible story. bill: sure is, yeah. martha: local leaders there at this point trying to calm everybody down. watch this.

>> this appears that it was not a random attack t appears to be targeted. so i don't think the community at large is in danger. best thing we can do is remain calm, remain supportive of the mcclellan family and those handling the investigation and continue to look out for each other. martha: the murders come a few months after assistant district attorney mark haas was gunned down in the courthouse parking lot. bill: dan springer live on the story in kaufman, texas. are the investigators linking these murders, dan? >> reporter: the other murder, by the way, bill, happened exactly two months ago. police obviously are on edge here. prosecutors throughout the state of texas are on heightened alert but right now investigators are saying almost nothing about their investigation or if they think that all these murders are linked. we can tell you there are reports that the front door of the mcclellan's house was apparently kicked in. neighbors said they heard

loud noises friday night. they thought it was a thunderstorm rolling through. the bodies were discovered 24 hours later on sunday night. cynthia mcclellan was found in the front room, shot once in the head. mike mcclellan, was shot a dozen times. was trying to run away from the front door. the weapon used was . .223 caliber assault rifle which was similar to a ar-15. >> it is unnerving to the law enforcement community. it is unnerving to the community at large. we're striving to assure the community that we are still providing public safety and will be able to do that. we're meeting all of our obligations. >> reporter: and right now there are some belief this is all linked to the aryan brotherhood which has a strong presence here in kaufman county. there was directive put out by law enforcement in the

state of texas in december saying there was an aryan brotherhood effort from prison to get public officials. that went out in december. the murder of haas happened at end. january. now this of the kaufman count district attorney over the weekend, bill. bill: statewide across texas what security precautions are being taken there, dan? >> reporter: as you can imagine district attorneys throughout the state are taking extra precautions. many are having extra security. in fact the d.a. who was in houston, texas, says he has 24 hours surveillance for him and his family. many of the d.a.s are not commenting. there is heightened security at the kaufman county courthouse which will be open. we're told prosecutors will be at work but the office is closed to the public. we're that mike mcclellan had taken extra precautions. he carry ad gun wherever he went. he was 23 year veteran of army. he was on heightened alert. he had a sheriff's deputy

parked outside his month after mark haas was killed. that was one month too little, this happened on friday night after the deputy left his house. bill: almost as if the killer was waiting. dan springer, kaufman, texas. martha. martha: mike mcclellan is the 13th prosecutor since the national association of district attorneys began keeping count back in 1960. the last prosecutor murdered in texas died during a 1996 armed robbery. in 2001 a federal prosecutor was gunned down in his seattle home. back in 2002 an assistant district attorney in california was found stabbed to death in his garage. bill: texas authorities are investigating the possibility of a link to the killing of the colorado corrections director. tom clement shot to death march 19th, when he answered the front door of his home. the suspect in this case is a colorado prison parolee.

he was killed in a shootout in texas two days later, 100 miles from kaufman, texas. so far investigators have not connected evidence to those two cases as they work there. martha: we'll speak to a former district attorney about the dangers on the job and we'll bring you any developments as they come in on that story and that manhunt in kaufman, texas. bill: meantime there are many developments this morning, over the weekend. united states ramping up a show of force as north korea talks get tough now sending advanced f-22 stealth fighter jets to south korea to join military exercises there. a leading republican saying that north korea is not giving itself very in wiggle room to back down from its threats. >> it is not an empty threat. i wouldn't be that concerned about them hitting the mainland u.s. right now or even any u.s. territory. i think the real threat to what north korea might be boxing itself into. bill: for all the latest greg palkot is live in

london. what are we hearing from pongyang in north korea, greg? >> reporter: bill, we're tracking rhetoric from north korea and it is about as belligerent as we've heard in a very long time. over the weekend north korean leader kim jong-un saying he is entering a state of war against south korea and wouldn't give up the nuclear deterrent for billions of dollars after a month of long range tests of nuclear devices by north korea. u.s.-led international actions including u.n. sanctions against north korea and a string of threats from the north specifically against the united states including hitting u.s. bases in the region, even mainland u.s. with nuclear tipped weapons. we heard from south korea today, bill, responding strongly to what is being heard from the north. its president say that if that country, seoul, would strike back quickly if there was an attack. bill: there is a long list of possibilities now, greg but what could the u.s. response be? >> reporter: he will, bill,

the u.s. has to treat this all seriously because these are very strong words. that's why we're seeing the f-22s being flown in there. they are part of joint exercises i'm told will continue through the end of april with enit of thousands of u.s. and south korean troops involved. having said that, i am talking to my contacts in south korea saying the rhetoric is we're hearing from the north is similar to what they heard from the past. they're trying to get concessions from the west. and trying to build up the stature of the new junk leader. that is the wildcard. there is similar wildcard rhetoric we heard in the past. that is the reason washington is treating all this so seriously. >> greg palkot in london with all that. martha. martha: threats from north korea not new. they're bragging, bargaining chips for food and economic aid. that kind of deal we've seen happen many times in the past. later in the show we'll talk to fox news military analyst

kt macfarland, explains why she believes this time this could be very different. let's go to europe now where an italian bank is, sparking new fears about europe's financial crisis after losing $4 billion. that news comes on the heels of a potential rescue for another country in the european union which we talked about a lot over the last couple weeks that is going on in the mediterranean island cyprus. people there could lose as much as 60% of their deposits. that is a very scary situation for them and beyond really. stuart varney joins me now, host of "varney & company" on the fox business network. good morning, stuart. >> good morning, martha. martha: what about this italy situation? >> high anxiety time for relatively ordinary people across all of europe. what you have, martha, is parallel banking stories here. with cyprus. as you said, big investors, big depositers in banks in cyprus will certainly lose 40% of their money, maybe 60%, maybe even more.

there is a breach of principle there. what used to be your money is now ours. go to this bank in italy. this bank, third largest lender in the country. they had to be bailed out last month. and over the weekend their top guy said that we have deposits have fallen by a few billion euros. that means people are worried about their money in this bank. they have lined up to take money out, taking their deposits out because they see what has happened in cyprus. it is not our money any longer. it might be your money now. and that's got everybody worried across europe. big deal. martha: it is so incredible, stuart. when you think about what we have here the fdic. generally the government role in banking is to insure your deposits. to make sure there is a pot so to speak to tap into if anything like this ever goes wrong. this is the absolute inverse, of that. this all recent round started in cyprus as you say. >> yeah. what happened in cyprus is

that breach of principle. used to be, my money. i'm the depositer, it is mine. it is sacrosanct. you can't touch it. that has all changed as of last week. that principle is rippling out to other countries which have similar banking problems. in america we think of our money insured by the fdic sacrosanct. you can't touch it. well that principle was breached in europe and that's what's got everybody so worried. martha: any chance that could happen here, stuart. >> in my opinion, no, absolutely not. i do not believe it will happen here. the fdic guaranty of the money in your deposit account that is an absolute guarranty. i can't imagine a situation where you go around that. but in europe they breached that principle. not the same there as it is here. martha: bedrock of our whole private banking system. stuart, thank you very much. see you soon. bill: hope you had a good easter weekend by the way? martha: it was a lovely easter weekend. and you?

bill: nice until about noon yesterday. storm system moved in. martha: i know. bill: the temperature plummeted 10 degrees. martha: that is the way spring is. we'll have april showers. bill: it was a beautiful day in rome because you had00 of thousands gathering on easter sunday in vatican city as pope francis delivered his first easter homily from the sat can. pleading for peace across the world in areas like syria, middle east and north korean conflict. before getting in so-called popemobile and greeting members there. the pope embraced a disabled boy and what a moment that is on easter sunday. great time of the year. baseball will start today. march madness in full swing. martha: that is an incredible moment. just to see the pope touching people. reaching out into the crowd i think is such a powerful message. washing the feet of women and of muslim worshippers as well which got at that lot of attention on holy

thursday. something is going on here. bill: i agree with you. francis is off to a good start. so, and so are we. 12 minutes past. martha: and so are we. we're just getting rolling this morning. from sequester to no--quester? what happened to the dire consequences we heard from the white house about dire budget cuts or are they still out there? bill: 100 cars involved in a deadly pipe you will on a major american highway. what in the world caused this? martha: controversial advice for college women. get your husband quick, ladies before they graduate is the advice. we'll tell you what we think about that. bill: you think she is onto something? martha: i don't know. we'll have a discussion about that. ♪ . new car! hey!

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out of their home for weeks after an oil spill that happened in arkansas. the epa is leading the cleanup effort there since the pipeline ruptured friday. more than 12,000 barrels of oil have been recovered. what a mess this has been for these folks. exxonmobil owns that line. they're using 15 vacuum trucks and 33 temporary storage tanks. so far about 50 people have been affected by the spill have filed for reimbursement. bill: it has been one month since the sequester budget cuts went into effect. so far few signs of the devastating consequences so many people warned about. the tsa running as usual we're told. teachers are on the job and the federal government is actually hiring. were the warnings scare tactics by the white house? stephen hayes, senior writer, "weekly standard", fox news contributor. good morning to you. >> good morning bill. bill: hope you had a great weekend with your family. >> i did. bill: how are we to interpret this now one month

later? >> the fact that we haven't seen much impact was to be expected. both because i think the white house exaggerated initial claims because all of the talk of furloughs and other things were supposed to happen have after that initial first month, after march. in the event we see much of an impact at it all it would be expected to come from this point forward. bill: this is what was said about a month ago. faa, federal aviation administration will close 149 air traffic control towers. furlough 47,000 employees. u.s customs & border protection, skeed you would furloughs. 60,000 full-time employees furloughed for two weeks starting april 21st. u.s. department of agriculture, furlough, 6 inspecs this summer, well starting in the summer. has any of that happened or is it just about to happen? >> i think it is just about to happen. the real problem i think, the mistake that the white house made from the beginning was overselling

the impact of those cuts, whether it was president obama's very dramatic press conference that he held with first-responders. whether it was having secretary of transportation ray lahood to the white house to brief about the potential impact of those cuts, they sold it as if the nation were going to fall into some sort of a catastrophe and even if there are these cuts, even if the cuts that you just described go into effect and have some impact, i think for most people the impact will be minimal if they notice it at all. bill: some democrats still argue that a lot of that is in the pipeline. you will see it starting this month in april. you have a bigger theory on all this. you believe the rationale for the obama presidency rests on the assumption you need a big government and if you prove that government shrinks and america still works, then, what then? >> yeah. look. this is why i think the white house has taken this sequester debate so seriously. on the one hand you're just talking about 5.3% of

domestic discretionary funding. not a huge amount. small cuts to these programs. but in the bigger context of the obama presidency the president basically staked his entire rationale for his presidency on this idea that he needs to grow government even when we're facing $17 trillion in debt. that the government is so integral to the lives of americans that we need more of it, no matter what. i think if they lose this debate, americans look around and say, well, huh, these things the president argued for four years actually haven't turned out to be true. bill: could contribute to further debate about more spending cuts. >> right. bill: quickly on the easter egg roll, there could be a lot of confusion about this today. there are no public white house tours but you will see 30,000 people on the south lawn of the white house. much if not all of this is privately-funded, right? >> right. bill: a lot of members of the military will be there as well as members of the congress and their families. >> right. i think that is all correct, yes. bill: we'll see peter cottontail there in about an

hour. hot dog. cover your eggs. >> taking my kids. bill: thank you, sir. send us a picture. martha: we are just getting word that at 10:00 we'll have a news conference out of kaufman county, texas about the death of this man, the texas district attorney who was murdered he and his wife, at their home. a brutal story and police believe it may be part of targeted attacks. we'll have a news conference. stick around for that live in "america's newsroom" starting at 10:00 a.m.. a hiker stranded for six days on the side of a mountain fighting to survive in brutal conditions. the dramatic conclusion of this young lady's struggle against the elements. bill: there is terror inside of a wal-mart. that is just the start of this story. what police say a driver did when the customers started running for their lives. >> in fact they're looking for lunch meat. they hear this big crash

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bill: we have four people injured, one of them serious after police say a man crashed his car into the front door of a wal-mart in san jose, california. after he got out he attacked people with a blunt instrument shopping at the time. some of those shoppers describe what they saw and what happened there. >> in fact they're looking for lunch meat. they hear this big crash, like something big fell off the shelf, broke, some glass or something, and then everyone, i'm being aing around and people are screaming and running toward the exits. my heart was beating the whole time. and i'm saying, i had no idea what was going on. all i knew people were panicking and running. >> broken glass, flying

debris. it was, actually chaotic with the number of people inside the store. bill: we're still working on a name for who is responsible. police arrested a man after a previous struggle. they're trying to figure out what his motivation was. we would like to know that right now. martha: big business and labor groups reaching a deal on a visa program for guest workers and now one state that doesn't have a border with mexico becoming a battleground immigration debate. john roberts is live with the latest on developments on all this over the weekend. good morning, john. >> good morning to you, martha. senate gets closer to a deal on legislation, south carolina is emerging as a ground zero for immigration reform. congressman tray gowdy chairs the subcommittee in the house. they argue states like south carolina need a large pool of immigrant workers to service industry like agriculture, tourism, other areas of the service industry but they are being

targeted by opposition groups trying to kill immigration reform. groups like numbers usa which back in 2007 played an integral role in torpedoing a deal. >> who elected lindsey graham to demand millions more immigrant workers when so many south carolinians are job letters. >> not me. >> this "gang of 8" eight of working night and day to legalize illegal aliens. show me when people up in congress are working night and day to put americans back to work. >> reporter: evan gel kal are working with ad campaign to support gowdy and gram. it will use them to light hundreds of grassroots fires across the country to try to kill a deal this time around too, martha. martha: what does senator graham say about all that, john? >> reporter: he is hanging tough in this battle. opposition groups know if

you can sell immigration reform in a conservative state like south carolina you can pretty much sell it anywhere across the country. they say they are using the palmetto state as a test case and he is ready for a fight. >> you can run all the ads you want to in south carolina, that you have every right to do so but i'm not being baing off. i'm telling you this. there are people who have my back today that didn't exist in 2008 and to my republican colleagues, this is a moment of reckoning for the republican party. >> reporter: why is it a moment of reckoning for the republican party? because the republican party is not doing well with hispanic voters, not that crafting an immigration reform deal would suddenly swing all the hispanic voters over to the republican party but they hope at very least, martha, it could be the start of a conversation based on trust. martha: yeah, boy, it is a hot one. john, thank you very much. we'll talk about it more. we have debate coming up on that subject. thank you, john roberts. bill: meantime we're learning more this morning after nearly 100 cars were involved in a deadly pileup.

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bill: we have new information out of this horrific scene out of begin what, -- virginia, a massive pile up involving 100 vehicles on a stretch of road. three people were skilled and 25 were injured. this happened on interstate 77 that runs along the border of north carolina. survivors talk about what they felt and how it happened. >> all you could hear was bam, bam, bam. >> we saw somebody barreling down and we knew we were going to get hit. >> all you could hear was explosions. >> skeeching metal and a lot banging. this truck was on fire. bill: heavy fog blamed for poor visibility at time. when that fog rolls in, you're almost defenseless, whether virginia or anywhere else. that might have been a part of the system we felt here around noontime that rolled in. martha: swept right in. boy, what a tough --. all right, ladies, gentlemen,

this is a big conversation around the watercooler this morning because there is a princeton university alumnus who is telling students from her alma mater lock down a husband before graduation wages day. she wrote a open letter to the newspaper, almost impossible to get on the website because it is getting a lot of attention. here is what nobody is telling. you find a husband on campus before you graduate. men regularly marry women who are younger and less intelligent, ultimately, it will frustrate you to be with a man who just isn't as smart as you are. okay? that's what has got a lot of people talking. there is more to it than this. we want to have a little panel discussion about this. we bring in dr. karen ruskin, a licensed marriage and family therapist. michael graham radio host on the new england talk network and columnist from "the boston herald.". michael, are you there? >> rhyme right here.

martha: michael, we'll go to you first. good advice? >> the facts are college campuses bring together people with come nannalty. average s.a.t. score draws people. princeton a lot of commonalities, florida gulf coast university, sweet 16 not so much at academics. she is, looking at pool of common people with common interests. she relies on social science what women expect out after relationship. women want a guy who they perceive as intellectual equal, et cetera. guys, we would be happy to walk down the beach and say, hello, baby! that is men work. called biology. martha: dr. ruskin, let me go to you now. >> hi, martha. martha: my sister marry ad guy from princeton who is my brother-in-law, who we all love. he couldn't find glirls at princeton smart enough for him. he went to bucknell where

girls are smarter. he found her there. they have been happily married for many years. what do you think of her suggestion, she you want someone who is your intellectual equal, if you're at an ivy league school you better get it before you graduate? >> right. young girls have to focus attention and energy to school work and social life and extracurricular and mental health and wellness but now they have to find a man, reel him in and make sure she has them for the rest of her life. i don't agree with that when it comes to intellectualism. certainly having similarities could help a so-called future relationship. the fact being intellectual equal doesn't necessarily mean you will have a healthy and successful marriage. at times there is woman with a man who is very different in style and in approach and int lex wallism and they have a very happy and marriage. int lex al not

indicator. >> headline from the piece is not getting so much attention. probably she is a princeton graduate people feel affinity to her school. she is saying that is where all the best people are. michael, she says there is too much focus on achieving professionally. in a way she is touching on something significant here. i think young women are taught the most important thing now is to achieve professionally. have a great career. but shipment we also be teaching them that, you know, part of life and happiness in life is finding that partner? and they should at least be open to that? michael? >> you know, we want to go back to the days of mrs degree. rain by spring theory. find your happiness not to find your career path or got my, goal is to be happy. i think the notion that women should not think about their personal relationship part is part -- is solely i'm going to be here, be professional would be as dumb as if men thinking the

same way. i'm not looking for a wife but a business partner who can give me the best deal for my investment. martha: good point. my parents met at ivy league school. my dad went to check out the freshman girls with a couple of his buddies. he saw this cute girl he liked a lot and they have been married for many years as well. there is not so much where you find someone, but, i think when you know you know, right, karen? >> yeah. when you know you know and it is not about putting pressure you have to find someone within the four-year time span. for some gals they find someone in college and for some not. shouldn't be the focus. i love your story. we met in 1988 in college. we're still together. i love the idea you can meet someone when you're young and you can meet someone older. some couples often they're not happy. i wish i was young i had more time to develop who i am. others are happy being together for many years. there is no right or wrong here. martha: i agree. i also have a sister who

first met her husband in 8th grade. they have been married all those years. >> oh. martha: happens at 1. sometimes happens at 50. all about finding the right person. i think this woman has got people talking. i think good debate. karen ruskin, michael graham, sorry we had you on the phone. we know you're stuck in a traffic jam. thanks for calling in. bill: well-known thing, out of a man and woman met there, they proposed underneath the arch and they go on to live happily ever after and their kids go to miami. martha: a lot of young people are sort of so focused on career they think that they don't have to think about that. i think it is good to think kids they should be open to it. don't you think? bill: you have a big life ahead of you. martha: exactly. whenever it happens it happens. bill: right on. the u.s. is sending fighter jets to korean peninsula as tensions rise with the north. why our next guest says this time could be different.

martha: d-day for a major city in america that is filing for bankruptcy. cash-strapped cities nationwide watching the situation in stockton. could this be the sign of more cities, great american towns going bankrupt? we'll be right back.

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i am the kaufman county judge. >> [inaudible]. >> i am the presiding judge of this commissioner's court. in my court i do probate cases but i do no criminal cases. the county judge in the state of texas is, is a an administrative judge working with the four commissioners that we have but obviously i am considered the chief elected officer of kaufman county. >> judge could you tell us how people are doing this morning? >> yeah. are you ready to get started? >> [inaudible]. >> let me just, i will begin with an opening statement and you certainly can do with it what you wish to do. thank you for being here today. we felt an obligation to meet with the press and give our, not only you but our citizens in our county and all across our area and the

state and even the national, we're having calls from all over the country about what happened over the weekend. all of you are aware of the fact that mark haase was ambushed and murdered less than 100 feet across this way behind us in the parking lot on january the 31st and then of course, this weekend we had the tragic deaths of mike mclelland and his wife cynthia, who was our district attorney and, as i indicated, i don't have any information on the investigation that i can share with you or that i have but that would be something you will need to get from law enforcement. as a county we are open today. we're conducting business. all of our offices are open. we do have increased security as you probably have noted across the county, particularly here in the courthouse and in this annex

building. we're very much on alert. we obviously have many so folks that are out to do harm to elected officials and so we take that very seriously in our jobs. i have great confidence that we're being protected in our courthouse today. the district attorney's office is closed to the public today but it, there is staff there and we will be meeting with them later on this morning. and so we're working through this, trying to determine what next steps we need to take as a county. one of the things that we will be meeting with our judges this morning, that we have two district judges and two county court law judges. we'll be meeting with them here in just a few moments and determining what we should do as far as the criminal justice system in our county is concerned. one of the priority concerns we have that we'll be dealing with is contacting the governor's office.

under state law the governor perry will appoint a d.a. to serve out the --. martha: well, that's the news conference underway in kaufman county, texas. on the right-hand side of your screen you saw the picture of mick mclelland the district attorney in that county. he and his wife were gunned down in their home and as was pointed out by bruce wood, the judge who is speaking, it was just a couple months after the assistant d.a. in that county, mark maase was also murdered in cold blood. clearly there is someone after public officials in our area. they are investigating and looking for this killer. we'll keep on top of it. we'll get you more as it comes along. bill: as that story develops here at home. from overseas. more developments the united states is sending advanced stealth f-22 fighter jets to south korea to join military exercises there amid rising tensions on the peninsula. north korea making trouble ising into new we know but

kt macfarland fox news security analyst here to examine headlines of the day and over the weekend. good morning to you. every spring is like clockwork. >> clock work. north korea creates a crisis. they're out of food. they say let's create a crisis. they meet with us, give them food aid, other aid, the crisis is diffused next year. this year i worry it might be different. bill: why? >> three things, everybody has new leadership. this is the new north korean leader. untested. shown he is pretty reckless. this guy shouldn't be playing with matches but on the verge of getting nuclear weapons. north korea has a new leader. south korea with a hawkish new president. japan has hawkish new leader. we have new secretary of state and secondary of defense. chinese have new leadership, probably more hawkish. everybody is untested in the routine and dance the worry is nobody wants a fight and nobody wants a war but could you stumble into one.

bill: you had a b-2 bomber from missouri and fly back last week. f-22s doing military exercises. are we diffusing it or contributing to it? what is our position how you interpret our moves towards north korea? >> they're pretty hawkish. they're the right things to do but why? this is it tightrope to want. you have to look like you're not responding to the very bellicose statements out of the north korea and military alert. south koreans are watching. japanese are watching. we don't want the south koreans to say we can't believe in the united states. you don't want japan to say we need to demille at that rise. there that dmz i have been to number of times. you see the other guys. they're within two miles away from each other. what is within the two mile segment? 30,000 american troops. something could happen and it would happen very quickly. bill: hard to know what is serious and what is

hyperbole. is there a way to diffuse this? does it slowly peter out or somebody make a move that could set off a series of reactions that could lead to something more serious? >> what you worry about the north korea, the leader makes a move is one that leads to a series of events that cause a conflict. is there a way to diffuse it? maybe yet again we say, let's have negotiations, we'll give you food aid. the key to all this is china. we've been waiting for years to china, you deal with north korea. you keep them alive. you give them 75% of their food and fuel oil. chinese are reluctant to pull in north korea. has it gotten to the point where it threatens to boil over? new chinese leadership. maybe this is our opportunity to say let's figure out how to stop this. bill: quickly we were told last week the b-2 bomber is something north korea is concerned about. same for the f-22. same family, right. >> same aircraft. stealth technology. most sophisticated weapons

in the world. bill: seems like there is headline every day. we'll likely call you later in the week. kt macfarland. thank you. martha? martha: a top republican senator may be the key to getting an immigration reform deal but that lawmaker is now issuing a new warning on this potential deal. bill: also, mart that, a -- martha, a young woman surviving after being trapped on a mountain for six days. one decision that she made that saved her life. >> there were parts where she had wished that she could just die and have it over with but she, she came to the conclusion that god wasn't going to let her die and so she was just toughing it out one day at time. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness?

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martha: amazing rescue after a 23-year-old girl who was a missing hiker spent six nights trapped on mount hood. fox portland has her story. watch this.m glad to be alive. >> the simple statement says it all. mary owen is spending this easter sunday in a hospital bed after spending six nights alone on mount hood. she has never felt so close to family and to god. >> i was so blessed. my parents have been wonderful and forgiven me for being stupid. >> the university student ran into whiteout conditions on sunday, less than a thousand feet from the mountain summit. later she slipped and fell while trying to climb out of a canyon. her leg was hurt. so she thought it would be safer to wait for search crews to find her. no one started looking until days later. >> part of it was so discouraging, i was like where is everybody, you know? usually you know people are thinking about you and praying for you and stuff you feel it and there was just nothing. nobody looking for me.

nobody praying for me. nothing. and, that was, that was really hard. >> it was difficult. but mary says she never felt like she was going to die. she melted snow to drink. ate seeds and raman and knew tri grain bars. family realized she was missing. search crews set out thursday afternoon and friday. that morning -- >> woke up with a lot of peace and sense thousands and thousands of people praying for me. and, that was really, really powerful. and so friday i was just like, this is the day they will find me and i was super optimistic. >> mary saw the search plane circling overhead that day but the search crews didn't see her. next morning the crew in a national guard helicopter saw her and lifted her off the mountain. >> i was thanking god and them and so happy. >> in addition to the gash on her leg, mary has frostbite on both her feet. she is hopeful she will be able to keep her toes. the experience taught her a

lot. >> humbling me to make me realize it is not just me and i need not to take my friends and family for granted. martha: wow!. bill: tough way to learn that lesson. to be reminded of it. martha: what a of loly young lady. bill: sure is. martha: and boy, she built a snow cave like the guy that we had a couple weeks ago that survived. bill: i was thinking, so many times we report on people and search goes on and goes on and a lot of times it does not end the right way. but good for her. martha: better not hike alone, right? bill: take a buddy. martha: take a buddy. bill: coming into spring season or fort hood or mount rainier, a time of year where a lot more folks go up there. we're waiting for a judge to decide whether thic best u.s. city to go bankrupt. could this be the first of many cities to fall? we're be on that. martha: have you heard this. a top economic advisor to president ronald reagan has given america a very urgent warning. he is saying we have been robbed. we've been lied to and we've been misled.

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martha: the gang of eight say they are near an immigration deal but one top republican says not so fast on this. welcome to the new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm martha maccallum. bill: welcome back again. martha: happy easter. bill: happy easter, one day later. this is a brainchild of the gang of eight for republicans and for democrats. martha: as a handful of members take to the sunday shows to express major progress in agreeing to a plan there is one key holdout who says that this proposal may still have quite a ways to go. watch. >> we are much closer with labor and business agreeing on this guest worker plan, that doesn't mean we've crossed every i or dotted every t or visa-versa we still have a ways to go in terms of looking at the language and

making sure it's everything we thought it would be but we are closer certainly. martha: how close are we? kelly wright is live in washington. what impact do senators believe that this agreement between labor and business will actually have on the work they are doing on immigration reform? >> reporter: good question. good morning to you and bill as well. the chamber of commerce issued a statement saying this is a structure we can move forward w. then you look at the senators in that so-called bang of eight acknowledging the legislation still needs to be written, but they are encouraged, in fact some of them applaud the agreement between the afl-cio and the u.s. chamber of commerce calling the a major breakthrough in paving the way for immigration reform. it's a stumbling block that has now been removed according to some allowing immigrants or would allow immigrants, rather, to come to the u.s. each year and work in low-wage jobs. also the senators still want to pursue other goals such as securing the borders. all of this some say will lead

to passage of immigration reform in both the house and senate the. >> first people will be legalized, in other words not citizens but allowed to work, come out of the shadows, travel. then we will make sure the border is secure, and we have specific metrics that are in the bill, i'm not going to get into what they are to make sure that that happens. after that happens there is a path to citizenship. >> you'll never stop everyone from coming through, and you have a lot of commerce, legal commerce that happens at the border as well. so when people talk about having a sealed border we don't need a sealed border, we node a secured border. >> reporter: you can see how they are working on some of that language that could enter its way into this measure. some of the sevens say all of this is very encouraging and they believe immigration reform can be passed some time this year. martha: it sound very hopeful. a lot of folks saying that there is movement but marco rubio put up a red flag on all of this.

kelly. >> reporter: i think he's putting of a flag of caution and it's a necessary things to do right now. he says substantial progress has been made and he find the reports of the agreement between business and labor even coveraging but believes more work need to be done. he says in a statement eight senators from seven states have worked on this bill to serve as a starting point for discussion about fixing our broken immigration system. that is the key thing he's saying. but arriving at a final product will be required to be properly submitted for the american people's consideration. what he adds is real crucial. he says that 92 other senators from 42 states have to be involved in this measure. he says in order to succeed it cannot be rushed or done in secret. the senator acknowledges a measure needs to be written. martha: vicinitying, there has been criticism that so many things of done in small committees on major issues and he wants this to be a comprehensive bill that they can get behind. kelly thank you very much -pblts you're welcome. bill: from our brain room we

find this the number of illegal immigrants in the u.s. estimated at 11-point some million back in 2011 a number that went unchanged from the previous two years. two-thirds of adult illegals have reportedly been here for at least ten years with another 35% having lived here for 15 years or longer. also, we're awaiting a ruling from a judge now to see if the largest u.s. city will file for bankruptcy, that is stockton, california. a city of 300,000. it's racking up about $700 million in debt so far and those pension obligations, the city's biggest headache, stockton claims a 26 million-dollar budget shortfall last summer and the city's unemployment rate a staggering 18.7% even to this day. claude ka coulclaudia kowan is

live. stockton wants to default on a $165 million loan it took out back in 2007, money that it used to pay calpers. the california employee retirement system. it represents the city's biggest debt. during a three-day hearing in federal court creditors argued it's unfair for them to lose money while the retirement fund negotiated back when times were good remains untouched. this is the first bankruptcy case to challenge state pension law. most experts believe the judge will allow stockton to enter into bankruptcy and they expect the ruling will be appealed. bill: the stockton officials say there is no other way, is that right? >> reporter: that's what they are saying. remember they filed for bankruptcy last summer. officials say if they cut services and programs if i more it will risk the health and safety of the people who live there. stockton, after years of good times was hit hard by the housing bust, unfunded pensions

liabilities and bad management. it was a perfect storm there. crime is a problem, you mentioned the high jobless rate. city officials claim they have cut budgets and services to the bone. but a long list of creditors and here you see some of them, including bond insurers argue the city did not negotiate in good faith and could have done more like raise taxes to avoid chapter 9. in the judge grants bankruptcy there will be more negotiations to workout a debt repayment plan, a lot of people won't get nearly the amount they were promised. we could see this case end up apartment the u.s. supreme court. bill: wow, starting in stockton what a day and when a time. live in san francisco. we've seen it, detroit was threatened obviously and the governor came in and appointed a special individual to short out their mess. martha: perhaps you need to force it into bankruptcy to sort of redo some of these deals in terms that they can actually meet because so many states and cities are completely underwater

with so many of these obligations. we'll see if stockton is the last or the beginning of a trend. all right. well, there were some terrifying moments at own easter sunday service outside of cleveland, a 25-year-old man walked into the church, fired a single shot hitting his father in the chest and killing him as he was leaving services on easter sunday. most of the church congregation was still inside when the shooting happened. the suspect held his gun until police arrived at the scene and they were able to get him to put it down. court record show the suspect had an extensive criminal record, long rap sheet. bill: you mentioned detroit different story from that city. a major airport is back open after being forced to evacuate earlier today after an x-ray scanner at detroit's metro picked up what was initially described as some kind of explosive device in a carry-on bag. one person now in custody after two bomb squad responded to the scene, thousands of travelers now being allowed back in the

terminal. an investigation is ongoing there in michigan. martha: a weekend murder has left one small town on high alert this morning after a local d.a. and his wife were shot in cold blood in their home last night. we are going to take a look at why local officials believe that this is not a random act, that he was targeted, and that he may not be the first and he may not be the last in what they are worried about. bill: also a former budget director under president reagan saying the american people have been lied to, they've been robbed and misled by their government today. who he says has left our economy at serious risk. martha: we spoke to this young man's family on "america's newsroom," and now there is new hope this morning for the family of this missing ivy league student. he vanished from his campus apartment more than two weeks ago. >> he left a short vague note. the police have gone thraoufrg and the fact that we are ten days in and still have no word

despite the intensive investigation, you know, again indicates that we just don't know.

bill: there is new evidence now in the search for a missing college student. a 22-year-old vanished from his off campus apartment near brown university about two weeks ago. police hoping that this surveillance image you believed to show the 22-year-old only minutes before he vanished. they hope it sheds light on his disappearance. they are hoping. martha: a new warning on the u.s. economy suggests that american consumers have been, quote, lied to, robbed, and misled by the same white house official has were supposed to be fixing things after the recession. when that warning is coming from a former reagan budget director who steered us through a recession in the 80s, the suggestion that a new crash could be on the horizon is causing a lot of concern this morning. let's talk about this.

steve moore joins us now, senior economic writer for the "wall street journal." welcome steve, good morning, it's good to have you with us. this is david stockman that we are talking about former omb director in the reagan administration. this is really interesting. basically what he is saying is that this began at the end of the bush administration and continued through the obama administration, this effort to convince people that we were about to fall into this huge abyss, financial armageddon and they had to rush and save these huge banks. he's saying that that was the wrong way to look at it. what do you think? >> yeah u know i think this is a very important and timely message, martha, basically what david stockman is saying is we made a bunch of mistakes back in 2008 and 2009 starting with the big bailout of the banks where we gave them tens of billions of dollars. one of the things he's saying is look we took money from the savers and gave them to the banks and they made billion -fs

doors on those loans the second thing he points out is a massive amount of money creation by the fed. this is one of his primary messages. over the last four year the fed keeps printing a trillion dollars more and more injecting into the economy and his point, and i agree with him is that story doesn't have a hyannis port aee ending you can't create prosperity by printing money. martha: this is from a new book that he has out. he says i became convinced that the fed was flying by the seat of its pants, making it up as it went along. >> yep. martha: it was evident that its aim was to stop the hissy fit on wall street and that the threat of a great depression 2.0 was just a cover story for a panicked spree of money printing that exceeded any other episode that is in recorded human history. >> right. look, martha there's two views on this. one is the one that you just expressed from david stockman that we bailed out these big banks and the insurance

companies and that isn't free market capitalism. i find myself in general agreement with that. the other to be fair is the economy was collapsing, we were in a very, very dangerous situation with respect to the banks and there had to be some kind of intervention by the feds. those are the two views out there. one of the things i think is persuasive about david stockman's argument is look, here we are four or five years later and the economy isn't very good. maybe we didn't take all the right steps. >> he says hank paul son was called and they said all of my rates are going up on commercial paper, this is going to be a disaster, it was like a collective thinking scenario and he says u know, the main street banks were not exposed to these kind of dangerous investments. >> that is a really good point. martha: he says they could have really benefitted, perhaps, that's why i think it matters now to stalk about this steve. >> i agree.

martha: perhaps these banks, these institutions would be in better shape today if they had been allowed in more cases to fail back then. >> you know i agree with that. that is the point that david stockman makes. look when you bailout big banks what we've done, martha is basically created a big safety net underneath the big banks and the people who have been the victims of that are the community banks who don't have that level of protection and aren't able now to compete with the big, big banks. you mentioned goldman sachs, isn't it interesting at every stage of all the interventions goldman sachs came out spelling like a rose. i don't know if it's just coincidence that so many people in the government were at one time at goldman sachs. martha: what is the lesson now, i guess, because we continue -- the fed continues to print money. >> right. martha: at just lofty levels that are of great concern to a lot of people. what we're told by the administration is that you w really should -pbt be worried about it. we are concerned about the debt and the deficit but not that much, it's okay. >> martha the big question is

how do you put the jeannie back in the battle. martha: very difficult. >> we have this massive infusion of money into the economy and how do you shut that off? now there is a real worry that when we stop with that cocaine addiction of free money that maybe that is going to cause a recession. the question i ask is, what happens when the music stops? and i think that's the question david stockman asked in his book. martha: it's too late to take the pain basically from what happened in 08 but it's an interesting argument that we should of, you know. and i think it's something to think about. >> we didn't get capitalism work. we basically had massive government intervention and we looked back eight it and say, who did we really help here? martha: wow, steve it's important to think about and talk about. thank you so much tore doing with that today. bill: you think about the fed printing billions and billions of dollars until god knows when and giving it to the banks to keep them in business, make sure they can make their payments. martha: and wall street is doing time and the economy is really struggling.

so it raises a lot of questions. bill: he makes a great point, how do you do out of this? at what point do you cut off the speubgette? at this point we don't know. we know this the message has gone out loud and clear to north korea, what the u.s. is sending to the korean peninsula as talk of war goes to a whole new level. a key senator headed to south korea very soon. martha: a google miss fire, why folks are calling foul about a tribute on easter sunday. we have a lot of people talking this morning. at a dry cleaner, we replaced people with a machine. what? customers didn't like it. so why do banks do it?

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in texas is saying while there is no physical evidence that links the murders of a district attorney and his former assistant who was murdered two months ago it would make sense based on all the circumstances in this case that the killings are linked. here is what he said. >> i'm not a professional law enforcement person, but it would seem to me that this is not just a random act. it would seem to me that there has to be some connection, in my way of thinking, but i'm not involved, again, in the investigation. but i do know, based on what i have been told, that they have found no physical evidence that links the murder of mr. and mrs. mcclellan with the murder of mark haase. that may not mean anything. but it's my understanding they found no evidence that links the two. but i mean just -- this has to

be more than a coincidence i would think. martha: the d.a. and his assistant murdered in their homes two months apart. that is mike mcclellan, his wife cynthia was with him when they were murdered at their home on saturday. as i said it came just two months after the assistant d.a. mark haase was shot and killed in broad daylight in the courthouse parking lot. boy, that is kaufman county, texas. we'll keep you updated as we get more. bill: they are expected to find out if prosecutors will seek the death penalty against the accused aurora movie killing shooter. 12 people killed, 58 others injured there. alicia acuna is live with more on that. the suspect, james holmes has already offered to plead guilty. what is today about? >> reporter: george brockler the district attorney here has not

said whether or not he's going to accept that offer. in a filing the d.a.'s office said of hom's so-called plea offer that it's nothing more than a publicity stunt. he would avoid the possibility of the death penalty in exchange for pleading guilty. in part his attorneys write, quote, it appears the only impediment to a resolution of this case would be if the prosecution chooses to seek the death penalty. if the prosecution elects not to pursue the death penalty then it is mr. holmes' position that this case would be resolved on april 1. >> the defense has put an interesting amount of pressure on the prosecutor. after all if the d.a. turns them down then they will argue every delay, every one of the many motions hearings to come, it's all because of the prosecutor and his unwillingness to take the death penalty off the table. >> reporter: now holmes' team has also said that it will explore a mental health defense,

bill. bill: what else is the prosecution saying? what have they told you? >> reporter: well, normally these kind of plea deals begin behind closed doors. they don't normally happen through court filings. so in a scathing response by the district attorney's office they responded in a filing and in part it read, because there is no legitimate reason to include information about the purported defense, quote, offer in any pleading offer in this case the people question whether this language was included in the defense notice in good faith, or whether it was a calculated attempt to improperly inject the issue of the purported defense offer into the public discourse regarding the case. meantime the prosecution has been spending time talking to victims and family members of victims about how they feel about the death penalty and the possibility of a lifetime for james holmes in prison. bill: we await that hearing top of the hour.

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bill: there is a community in texas on alert for very good reason. the d.a. and his wife found shot to death in their home over the weekend. arming himself after one ofoken his assistant prosecutors was gunned down earlier, execution style about a block from his courthouse office back in january. the killings in kaufman county, that is a bedroom community east of dallas, understanding puts a lot of people on edge. here is the county judge bruce wood talking a short time ago. >> to say that we are not concerned would not be truthful,

but to walk around in fear, my life goes on, as do the other elected officials. bill: we heard from the police last hour about what they are doing today, just wanted to talk about this with dan conway a former assistant district attorney and tamara holder a fox news legal analyst. good morning to both of you. dan, in your line of work how often are you given threats, and how often do you act on the threats that come in? >> well, as far as the latter part you always act on them, you have to because these types of attacks really strike at the heart of the justice system. it does not matter whether you're a defense lawyer, a prosecutor, whether you're a investigator, a judge, when someone attacks a prosecutor or any officer of the court, killing them or hurting them or harming them or threatening them it hits the entire system of justice that we v. s have. so we take it deeply seriously.

i was going to say these things do happen all the time. bill: all the time? >> when i was a prosecutor -- well they happen quite frequently. bill: you mean the threats happen all the time. >> well let me just give you tikes am pels. there is a famous case in georgia from several decade ago where the prosecutor was blown up in his car. when i was an assistant district attorney we were prosecuting a big drug ring and they fire bombed our office a molotov cocktail hit about four feet from my window. these things do happen. not all the time. people get upset, make threats and you have to go on. the opinion of that judge i think is very good you have to go on to make sure that justice is served. bill: tam rey was thinking about the case in colorado about a month ago, now you have two in the same county in texas. what do you make of this? >> well, i agree that of course when you're dealing with officers of the court, not just prosecutors and public officials, but attorneys, like you just brought up, it was a private attorney who was killed by someone who was on parole in

her office. she had accepted office hours with this man. then you have a district court judge in chicago a few years ago who not herself was targeted and killed but her husband and her mother. the problem here is i think a little different, in that we have to make sure that investigators and prosecutors, when they give these public messages to people who are on the loose, not to challenge them personally. to say, look, you're wanted, if anybody has information, money, all of those things, those are the ways that we want to catch these people, not make it a personal challenge and say, i'm out to get you and i'm going to hunt you down. because now the guy is going to go after you like we're seeing. bill: dan, i don't know if this is the truth, we'll see in time, if it plays out this way, but this gentleman had security protection monday through friday, but not on the weekends. and this killing occurred on the weekend. if that's the case and if that's

true you had a killer who was lying in wait and waiting for the best opportunity to strike. >> absolutely, which really goes to the mind of the criminal that committed this terrible act. obviously this is someone who quite frankly knew what they were doing and so therefore has probably experienced perhaps some violent acts. there has been prosecution of white supremacist groups by this office and in texas so perhaps that is an issue, we don't know ultimately, bill, i believe that state and federal authorities are going to come together and not in a vendetta way, in a cold, straightforward for justice way, the proper way to do it, objectively and logically, to come together with state and federal authorities, come together to make sure that these people are brought to justice. bill: no question about it. >> bill, there is a bigger issue here. when we talked about the woman who was killed in colorado and we talk about the head of the bureau of prisons in colorado, two separate cases, a lot of these people are people who have been in prison, who are on

parole and who are released back into society, and if we do not find a way to rehabilitate criminals, because eventually most people are going to be released, that's just a fact, we don't lock people up for life, most people. how do we rehabilitate people so that they don't want to reoffend, so they don't want to go back into the system over and over again. we are the most prosecuting society in the world. bill: this case raises a lot of red flags. thank you for your insight. martha: let's head back overseas because the u.s. is sending a warning now to north korea, flying stealth jets into the air space to the south in an effort to prevent rising tension tpr-s leading to an all out war. but north korea's latest threat suggests that it may be too late this time, and that has a lot of people very concerned, of course. the regime has declared that they are already in a quote, state of war with america's ally south korea, so what does this mean for our military posture in

that region. joined now by republican tennessee senator bob cork era ranking member on the senate foreign relations committee and is just back from a visit to the korean peninsula. senator, always good to have you with us. good morning and welcome. >> good to be with you and thank you. martha: what is your reaction to all of this and what did you learn when you were there? >> well, i sat down for about an hour and a half with general thermmonday our four-star general in charge of the 28,500 troops that we have there and obviously in charge of the combined efforts that we have with south korea and i also met with president pac and their foreign minister and others. i don't think anything is going to happen at present. this is part of a -- you know, the north korean leader has historically been belacose. i know people are on alert. the thing i think that concerns people most is some kind of provocation that end up getting out of control. but i think at present this probably -- what this leads to

is the fact that we need a solution to the fact that we have a basically a nuclear north korea. and i think the country that can play the biggest role in this is china. north korea is very dependent upon china for its economic well-being, which is not particularly good, but china is the biggest player in this. and i met with chinese leaders about this same issue, there is no question that the u.s. and china are the biggest players. china is the biggest by far, and they are the ones that need to really play a big role in trying to de nukdenucularize north korea. martha: what you put that to them what did they say to you. >> they put it back to us. the two parties, the u.s. and china have to figure out a way forward to deal with north korea. what is happening there, martha is people in south korea are now beginning to want to get nuclear

weapons. two third of the people in south korea would like to see nuclear weapons as part of what they v. you have japan that is sitting a short ways away, and obviously it feels very threatened by north korea, so we are going to end up in a situation that is very different down the road, very different case down the road if we don't cause this rogue regime to come under control and do away with the nuclear weapons that they have. no doubt they will be involved also, martha in proliferation in other places. martha: a bigger and bigger task every minute. i want to get a quick reaction from you on this immigration issue, and whether or not you think that you're any closer to sort of having some kind of legislation to talk about as a senator. >> you know, martha, we've got eight senators working on it. they've agreed to four talking points and they have to take those talking points to complex legislation. i know they are all working hard on it. i'm going to weigh in once i see that legislation, but i think most of us want to see them try

to get to a place where they can agree on something that we can look at that then will go through the judiciary committee and other committees of jurisdiction. but i really don't know, other than what i'm reading in the press as to where they are and i look forward to when we get back next week getting a firsthand account from those people involved. martha: many thanks, senator corker, always good to speak with you. >> thank you. martha: thank you, sir. >> thank you. bill: the nation let out a collective gasp, a gruesome injure between a critical march madness game. kevin ware has had his surgery after that star guard landed on his leg after trying to block a three point spot shot. it was gruesome to watch. his coach rick pitino says kevin will need a year to recover but he will be back. the cardinals heading to the final four, they'll face off

against wichita state. on saturday number one syracruse takes on michigan. syracruse's first time to the final four in ten years, michigan's first time in about 20 years. martha: it was easter sunday and you heard this, oh, my gosh coming from the tv room where everyone was watching the game. the player crumbling on the court, the coach in tears. thank god there is a road to recovery. bill: i remember joe theisman. but he recovered. we wish him the best. martha: the members of the gang of eight in congress say that a deal could be close, in terms of u.s. immigration reform but a key player on the hill case hold on, not so fast, and what he says matters in this situation. we'll talk about that coming up. ♪

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bill: that is the easter egg roll on the first of april for crying out loud, no following. the president will come out, the finance see place in a moment and address some 30,000 people gathered on the south lawn. he picked a great day to do it. martha: a nice day, easter monday. bill: a lot of military families will be out there, a lot of members of congress. let the rolling begin. you can watch it streaming live on our website at foxnews.com right now. martha: the gang of eight is reporting major progress in the fight to reform u.s. immigration, but a key

conservative says he thinks there is still work to be done on this. he wants to make sure it gets to the full senate for their consideration. in a statement yesterday republican senator marco rubio said, quote, i'm encouraged by reports of an agreement between business groups and unions on the issue of guest workers, however, reports that the bipartisan group of eight senators have agreed on a legislative proposal are premature leading some to wonder whether a plan that the president thought would be done this month might ever be done at all. >> i'm actually optimistic that when they get back they will introduce a bill. i'm not going to presuppose they don't. my sense is they've come close and my expectation is that we'll actually see a bill on the floor of the senate next month. martha: so will they, that is the question. kristen powers joins me now, a daily beast columnist and contributor.

kristen what do you make of all this? >> from everything i've heard there is going to be a bill coming up pretty soon. but i think that what rubio maybe responding to. there was a letter sent by jeff sessions and there were six senators in total that rile were questioning the process and feeling that they were left out, this is happening behind closed doors, and so i think rubio is trying to address that issue to sort of let people know, you know, there is no actual, final deal. of course even when the bill is released people will still have a chance to have their input into it. it's not going to be passed any time soon. martha: i think you're right about that. tony, there's been a lot of backlash from members of congress on prior issues that they feel like too much is going on behind closed doors in washington, that they are not able to do their job and get their hands on this legislation and talk about it and work on it. is that what's at work here? >> that's the exact right point, martha, marco rubio is central to getting conservatives not

just in congress and the senate and the house, but national lease, his national constituency of conservatives who respect rubio, they think he's sincere and honest. they will follow his lead presumably on this issue. he knows the quickest way to lose what has really been significant support on a bipartisan issue the quickest way to lose that support is fast track it, do it in the dark shadows in these small gang of eight meetings and assume that people aren't going to want more transparent see in this process. when they look to rubio they are looking not only at the policy side but assuring that the process which should be deliberate is done in a way they have confidence in. martha: a big part of that process is going to be reassuring conservatives who want to know that the border is going to be secure and that efforts are made to do that in the best possible way. it raises the question once again that is at the heart of

all this. how do you secure the border and make it more secure? >> i think one thing to remember, the senators, including senator sessions who sent this letter are not exactly known as being super excited about immigration reform. that is sort of where they are coming from. from what i've heard they are including this trigger idea that was rubio's idea, that you won't be able to actually apply for citizenship until there was some sort of certification that the border was secure. so, you know, if that is in fact included then i'm not sure what more people would want. i mean that clearly is what rubio has laid out as being sort of his main -- he needs to be in the bill in order for it to support it. martha: a few second left, tony. i want you to weigh in on that the border security issue and how to get it more secure, enough forservatives to get to sign on. >> that's the exact key. in 30 years of discussing immigration reform there is great lip-service paid to securing the border which i and

many believe is a sollable problem. you heard senator flake discussing it on one of the shows this week. you can't have for conservatives this trojan horse of comprehensive reform without reinforcing the border. in this bill, it's not been written, senator schumer said that, it's not been finally written but there are apparently metrics that will be itemized and put into the bill that supposedly will assure us this time around. that is why i think rubio is being cautious because he doesn't want to over promise. martha: nothin nothing insures confidence more than the word metrics but we will see. kirsten, tony thank you very much. bill: jon scott is coming up, no fooling, how are you doing, jon. jon: it is april fool's day. bill: i'm doing well. jon: unfortunately this story is all too real. north korea doing more sabre rattling today as the u.s. sends more resources towards the korean peninsula. most analysts believe korea is not a threat to the mainland u.s. today we're asking is it all

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bill: a tkproeg controversy for google, the search engine giant chooses to celebrate labor leader cesar chavez with one of their famous doodles on sunday. did you catch that? did you catch it, david? >>i didn't catch it, i was busy playing with my son all day. >> you're the one who wasn't on google for one day. >> well, everybody need to take a break from google, i highly recommend it at least one day a year. let me say this.

bill, you know, about three or four times a day i compose a tweet that i look at and say maybe i shouldn't do that. and i think this is a case where somebody at the northern california campus of google, most likely, came up with a doodle that they should have looked at and gone, you know, maybe tomorrow. andwhat a lot of people sometimes think is how can a big company, how can a big government make such an obvious mistake? but big companies make big mistakes sometimes and i don't think there was anything more to this. most like lease, than somebody living in their own world in northern california and and not realizing that a lot of people around the country thought yesterday was a pretty pwor day for other reasons of cesar chavez' birthday who is not an insignificant figure in the united states. i'd say easter probably triumphs that if you're going to pick one. bill: they say, googles are the surprising spontaneous changes that are made to the google logo to celebrate holidays, anniversaries and the lives of

famous artists, pioneers and scientists. chavez would fit that category. eric smith who runs tkpwaoelg was an informal adviser for president obama. in the president said make it cesar chavez day. this year the calendar also fell on easter sunday. that's why you had people lightening up the internet saying they are on the way to bing as their search engine of choice. the theorists say there is a definite connection here. do you buy it? >> no i don't. i think at the end of the day google wants to make money. you mentioned some people are on the way to bing. a company like google doesn't need attention, they don't need to get their name out there. at the end of the day they want to keep their customers happy. i don't think they would have done anything like this to make a political or a cultural statement them. don't need to do it. they are a money-making operation. i just think it was, you know, people not, you know, thinking about the ramifications of what they were doing. it happens in a company that employs thousands and thousands

of people as google does. bill: we'll put you down as those who believe it was a laps in judgment. i don't know how many folks agree with you, some do some don't. david drucker thank you. >> thanks nor having me. bill: enjoy all those easter eggs. martha: i read this morning that if you do a search of hashtag jesus google doodle, zero. bill: oh, yeah. martha: apparently they've never done it. they didn't think easter was the time to start. have a great day, everybody. we'll leave you on that note. bill: no, we've got more in a moment. martha: we do have more in a moment. what am i doing? growing tensions this morning as we've been talking about this all morning. the f-22 fighters that have headed to south korea, what does this mean? we'll be right back in "america's newsroom" with more. when you have diabetes...

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martha: easter egg roll is underway. never pushed a egg with a spoon. i hunted eggs in the yard but.