>> brian: it's not important. >> gretchen: okay. i had a t rex in my ear. have a great day, everyone! >> brian: hear you on the radio. >> steve: time for "america's newsroom." see you tomorrow, everybody! getting a halloween costume ready after that show. fox news alert from korea. a top u.s. commander saying he has never seen things as tense as they are right now. he is in seoul, south korea, using words like dangerous and volatile. good mornings i'm bill hemmer. welcome to a wednesday edition of "america's newsroom." nice to see you at home and martha, nice to see you. martha: what is going on? good morning. i'm martha maccallum. this general's biggest fear a small miscalculation in this really volatile area could potentially trigger a war. secretary of state john kerry making it clear the united states will do what it needs to do to protect its allies and the homeland. >> we've heard an

ex-extrordinary amount of unacceptable rhetoric from the north korean government in the last days. let me be perfectly clear here today. the united states will defend and protect ourselves and our treaty ally, the republic of korea. bill: so that from secretary kerry. greg palkot leading our coverage in london. what is the latest now, headlines from north korea today, greg? >>reporter: hey, bill, hey, martha. an industrial park. we have been around the site. not much to see but in fact one of the few symbols of cooperation between the north and the south. factory complex is inside north korea, near the border town of que song. the companies employ 50,000 north korean workers along with 900 south korean managers that is who north korea is banning coming into the factory complex. some managers remained

inside from earlier in the week so the factories continue to run. ironically a possible shutdown of the complex might hurt the north more than the south. we're told that pongyang takes a very generous cut of the earnings. while the factory wages are meager the north koreans are very happy to get them, bill. bill: what has been the latest response by the u.s. in the region? i mentioned the u.s. commander. what are you reporting, greg? >> reporter: the u.s. continues to add pressure, bill. the pentagon reporting that a second guided missile destroyer, the uss detate cure will -- decatur, will john join the uss john mccain. they are poised to respond to missile threats against the allies and the united states. served its purpose, the f-22 stealth fighters are set to head back to their home base back in japan. so far at least, guys, we have not heard any new utterances today from the north korean leader, kim jong-un.

but his ally, have been busy. we heard a top official in beijing met with the u.s. ambassador there and ambassadors to north and south korea. china says they are concerned and they're calling on all sides to, in their words, remain calm and exercise restraint. maybe breathe in deeply as well. back to you. bill: greg, thank you. greg palkot in london. how dangerous is all the heated talk out of north korea? and could the wrong move lead to a bigger conflict or even the possibility of war? we'll be joined by our fox news military analyst, general jack keane a bit later this morning to talk to him about all of that. three minutes past the hour. martha? martha: this is big headline this morning. there's a new report that the palm administration wants banks to make more home loans available to people who have weakened credit, young people, people whose finances got kind of beaten up by this financial recession but critics say that could open the door to risky lending practices that tanked the u.s. housing market in the first place.

so this is a chicken and egg syndrome here? stuart varney joins me now, anchor of "varney & company" on the fox business network. stuart, raises some eyebrows this one. >> yes. this is the expression you will be hearing a lot about today and in the near future. it is, that's what got us into trouble in the first place. that is, lowering standards for who can borrow money to buy a home. the administration wants it make home loans available to people with weak credit, people who don't meet the current rather strict standards. the administration says, a lot of people, low income people especially, being left out of this very modest housing recovery. the specific propopeal is to use taxpayer money to insure home loans that go to weaker credit borrowers, like the fha program, for example. well, martha, this may be good politics, it may be a good social goal but it is putting the risk back onto the taxpayers just like it was all the years agoing a before we went bust.

martha: stuart, it is so shocking. if you look at formula for this, exactly just like you said. don't worry, banks, we'll back up your loans here at the federal government. we spent $187 billion bailing out fannie mae and freddie mac because people got in way over their heads. i mean is this really the road we want to go back down? >> well that's what got us into trouble in the first place. you will be hearing this all the time. you're right, martha, the banks are very worried about this. they will be pushed into making loans to risky borrowers who don't meet current very high and strict standards, the banks are very worried what happens if some of these loans go bust. well the taxpayer is on the hook if they go and default and the justice department is telling banks, don't worry, don't worry, we'll take care of this in the event of the default. banks don't like this. it got them a bad name all the years ago. martha: squeeze in one more question for you, there are a lot of people out there who think these very strict rules you mentioned banks have are not necessarily the

best rules. that it is very tough for people to get a loan and that, you know, maybe the banks aren't using the discretion that they should be able to use in terms of who actually isn't a bad risk? >> well the strict rules that i'm talking about are, you got to put 20% down. you've got to have a job. you got to prove you've got a job. you have got to prove you have got income and do not lie about it. you have to produce documents to show it and you have to have a good credit score. that only takes you back to where we were say, a decade ago before all the standards were relaxed. those are the strict standards that i'm talking about. only takes you back 10 years. martha: nobody wants to be in over their head. we had so much of that precrisis period. stuart, thank you so much. we'll see you coming up on the business channel. >> thanks, martha. martha: right now american homeowners owe more than $13 trillion in outstanding mortgage debt, $13 trillion in mortgage debt owed.

think about that. in 2012 more than 1.8 million properties received foreclosure filings. currently more than one in five of all homeowners owe more on their property than the house is worth in outstanding mortgage debt. boy there are serious lessons that we learned in this housing crisis, bill, and you just want to be very careful. there is nothing wrong with renting a place. if that is what works for you in your financial situation, that is the best formula for you. bill: sometimes at your point in your life it is better to rent. martha: exactly. bill: get back to september of 1999 you see how the law has changed and how the doors were open for a lot of people who should have been renting. >> right. bill: you saw the mess they got into. news about mortgages coming as new housing numbers show prices on the rebound a bit, jumping in february by the largest amount we've seen in seven years. home prices went up by 10.2% compared to, 12% right there, thank you, compared to a year earlier. the gains are widespread.

prices went up in 47 of 50 states. only delaware, alabama, i will knoy reported price drops. -- illinois. martha: we want to get back to one of the biggest stories of this week. that is the ongoing murder investigation in texas right now. this past weekend police say they found kaufman county district attorney mike mclelland and his wife shot dead in their home outside of dallas. they're trying to figure out if the murderers are connected to the death of an assistant prosecutor in the parking lot at the courthouse in the same county. dan springer is live in kaufman, texas, with the very latest on this, dan. what do we know today? >> reporter: well, martha, one. difficulties in the case like this when you have a vick -- victim who made a lot of enemies like a top lawman it in a county does you have a lot of potential suspects. investigators are going systematically down the list of people who would have a grudge. over the weekend they apparently checked the hands

of a man for residue. this was one of more high-profile cases here in kaufman county. one of the cases that mike mclelland's office prosecuted. it was a man, eric williams, was kicked out of office and lost his law license when he was convicted of theft. deputy d.a. mark hascy was prosecutor on the case. he was sentenced to two years probation. police questioned him on saturday night after the bodies were found. he said he doesn't own a gun and has nothing to do with the murders. important to reiterate he is not named a suspect or person of interest at this time. but we know the police are going down the list of people that would have a grudge checking them out, martha. martha: that man's case was set to possibly be reopened. people feel like that would be a motivation for him not to get into any trouble. >> reporter: he appealed his conviction. he appealed his conviction. that is ongoing case. he is not a violent guy and he is not somebody who would go and do something like that.

martha: these murders seem to be unnerving a lot of prosecutors in the area and you can't blame them, dan. >> reporter: well, no, you can't because every prosecutor right now feels like he or she has a target on its his back. they're stepping up security. we're seeing security stepped up in courthouses. we're seeing extraordinary case of a federal prosecutor who just withdrew from a case. here in kaufman county, government employees are getting armed he is courts into the building and out if they want. new screening machines are added in places and elsewhere. now comes word a federal prosecutor in houston withdrawn from a major case involving the aryan brotherhood of the this led to the indictment of 34 individuals. jay hileman sent an e-mail to defense attorneys on the case saying he had safety concerns. >> the assistant u.s. attorney originally assigned to the case, mr. jay hileman. sent an e-mail to all counsel saying he was withdrawing from the case. >> reporter: that was one of

the defense attorneys on the case saying hileman has withdrawn over safety concerns. a extraordinary development. one might tell the aryan brotherhood if they're behind these murders they're winning. martha? martha: whoever is out there the police are hot on their trail and they need to figure out what happened because a lot of people are very nervous. we hope that is the case. dan, thank you very much. bill: listening to dan reporting, so far very few clues on this matter. one thing investigators focused on a set of skid marks found outside the mclelland home. they turned their attention to nearby tire tracks after receiving a tip. no word whether or not they're focusing on any specific vehicles at this point. martha: coming up we'll talk with the dallas county district attorney had has some very strong words about this case and a growing concerns over the safety of prosecutors and the security measures that he is now taking to protect his own life in this situation. that is coming up. bill: we've been on that story, what, every day now, trying to figure out what happened here and we talked about the colorado matter.

martha: yeah. bill: there is no connection we've been able to make here but can imagine the concern down there in the that county and all the d.a.s in texas. martha: they're doing good work and trying to put bad guys behind bars. you understand them feeling concerned. somebody is out there and they're after them. bill: we're just getting rolling here. a potential new surprise connected to the new healthcare law. how it could be costing you more and relating to your taxes. we'll explain. martha: securing the border. domestic drones are supposed to be the future but a new report finds the program is off to a very rough start actually. the major limitations that it actually has. bill: he is a world-renown surgeon. dr. ben carson, he rose to i guess a bit of fame at the national prayer breakfast this year. now he is taking a lot of heat for his conservative views. we'll tell how he is says has been the most vicious in his view and most racist group in america. >> they need to shut me up. they need to get rid of me. they can't find anything else to delegitimize me.

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bill: what is he saying there? >> i look he was right to sort of apologize for his initial remarks but i think he is absolutely right about the ways liberals are treating them. bill: he apologized remarks about homosexuality is that what you were referring to? >> lumped homosexualty and pedophilia in the same sentence. he explained that was a mistake and it probably was. bill: sometime rater apologized for that and you think he rightfully should have? >> i do. but at the same time he is absolutely right about a lot of his liberal detractors. there is this tendency, particularly in the age of obama but has been going on for a long time, sort of the best working definition after racist is simply a conservative and, or at least a conservative winning an argument and there's this sense in which the particularly black conservatives are essentially race traders if they're conservative. there is something genetic or cultural or says, blacks,

authentic blacks have to be liberal. people like clarence thomas or dr. carson or shelby steele thomas zoll. that is why they get called uncle toms and race traitors and the like. there is this incredibly condescending sense that blacks have to play a role in politics and be the shock troops of the democratic party and if not that they're bee temporarying true nature or political imperatives. i think it is a truly racist approach to public policy. i don't know if liberals are the most racist people out there as dr. carson out there. i think there are clan men more racist but it is a white guilt mentality that shelby steele writes about that says blacks should essentially be grateful to liberalism and therefore can never think for themselves. bill: you talk about those who are attacking carson as being condescending. and you also talk about race traitors.

what do you mean by that jonah? >> what i mean, i'll give you an example. you know, maureen dowd years ago wrote that the problem with clarence thomas was that he was showing ingratitude. he wasn't grateful enough to liberalism to support liberal laws. which is, what a lot of black conservatives are getting at when they talk about a plantation mentality when they say that blacks have to think a certain way and there is also this sort of sense in which, as thomas sole like likes to say, liberal walk newsroom. three blacks, four hispanics, seven women he is putting people into boxes and categories. conservatives look at racial blindness. bill: what is going on with carson? why is he attracting so much attention? why he is exploded on national scene the way he has? he had the moment at national prayer breakfast. that was two months ago. some people on the left this was insulting message to

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martha. we're not only seeing it in large agencies such as the illinois state police and missouri highway patrol and smaller police departments in normally upscale suburbs such as brentwood, tennessee. take a look at this dash-cam video from 2002. this is what officers faced. this video shows officer stephanie warner using her rolling patrol car as a moving shield against a bank robber out of frame firing on police with an ar-15 semiautomatic rifle. she and fellow officer tommy walsh were shot and wounded. listen. i fired a shot at the suspect wheeling toward me with the rifle. the shot i fired missed unfortunately. the first shot the suspect fired at me struck me. >> he was later shot and killed by our officers but we were up against him with only handguns. >> ricky watson who was police chief at the time convinced local businesses and individuals to pitch in.

in less than two months they contributed more than $50,000, enough to outfit each officer with an ar-15 patrol rifle. so far they have not had to use them in the line of duty. officers hope it stays that way now that the bad guys realize the police in that town are well-armed. martha? martha: wow! this kind of changes, taking place a little more recently in a lot of other police departments. >> reporter: that's right. police have been taking note of some of the high-profile shootings taking place around the country involving criminals with high-powered weapons, shootings such as those in a record a -- aurora, colorado, and newtown, connecticut, made a impression on police nationwide. images have same impact on departments coast to coast, that the well-armed bank robber had on the police in brentwood. listen. >> you know the old saying you don't want to take a knife to a gunfight. the same situation when you talk about an officer going into confrontation with a suspect with a handgun up

against a assault rifle. >> reporter: earlier this year police in the neighboring city of nashville decided to allow trained officers to carry their own ar-15 rifles on the job. martha, back to you. martha: interesting story, jonathan. thank you very much. bill: 28 past now and growing concerns over the safety of public prosecutors after several high-profile murders including this couple. a prominent d.a. on what he is doing to protect his own life. martha: and a 911 operator saved a stranded kayaker by turning it into a family affair. we'll be right back. >> oh, she could have been dead and in no time. the water was really cold. it's, it was 47 degrees. it's a miracle that she's okay.

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martha: well, texas investigators are now focusing their murder case on the people in this texas district attorney murder. they're looking at the people he prosecuted before his death as possible suspects. certainly that's a good place to start. mike mclelland and his wife cynthia were found shot to death in their home earlier this week. craig watkins is a dallas county district attorney. craig joins me now. welcome, sir. good to have you with us today. >> thanks for having me this morning. >> what is the climate like? you said you believe your profession, feels like it is under attack out there right now. >> well, unfortunately as

prosecutors we receive threats pretty much on a regular basis but for years we never took those threats seriously. in this instance, for what happened in kaufman county it's an opportunity for us to revisit security measures, not just for elected d.a.s but all prosecutors throughout the state of texas and throughout the nation. you just reported earlier that u.s. attorney out of houston was compelled to get off of a case. what happened in kaufman sends a chilling effect down our whole profession. even the constitution. it disallows to us move forward and prosecute bad guys and maybes sure they're not on our streets anymore. so, we really do need to take this very seriously. i would, you know, ask all d.a.s to send support to kaufman county because if it happens in kaufman county, it can happen in any county throughout this country. martha: obviously, you know, there's a string of murders

here now with the assistant district attorney and then the district attorney and his wife who were killed in their own home. a lot of talk about the aryan brotherhood. you know, how much credence do you give that idea? i know that the houston attorney who dropped out of the case, that was an aryan brotherhood case he decided he did not want to pursue or personally pursue. >> yeah. i have all faith in the sheriff's department in kaufman county and texas rangers. think they're looking at every lead. as stated earlier they're not only looking at organized crime, they're looking at individuals they may have prs cuted in the past. i think that's a good approach that they're putting in place. we're in dallas county which is, you know, about 75 miles away from kaufman county. we decided early on when hasse lost his life to commit $30,000 to a reward fund for his shooting. now we have the elected d.a.

who has lost his life and his wife. we would encourage prosecutors throughout the state of texas to those donations to crimestoppers so they can, you know, have the resources necessary to figure out what happened here and, you know, go ahead. martha: you know, when you look at your profession and you say that you believe it is under attack and that these kind of threats happen all the time, you know, what's your personal philosophy? how do you sort of, you know, stay strong and continue to do the work that you believe in when you know these kind of threats out there and the possibility it could be some kind of organized crime, that these murders could be connected? nobody knows at this point. who is out there and who they're targeting next. >> you know, when i first came into office i just thought it was par of the course to get threats. that is just part of being an elected official. now that those threats have been acted upon, it gives us a reason to call for a change in how we implement security.

my security personally has been beefed up since this happened and we're also working to have our 250 prosecutors, their security, entering the building and leaving the building beefed up. we have to change our mindset. we are in the courtroom every day, fighting for justice and we have, big egos in texas and so we don't take too kindly to threats but this is an opportunity for us to really take them seriously. so this does not happen again. martha: i think it is unprecedented that, his wife was also assassinated as part of this hit. how concerned are you about your family? and i'm sure others have the sail concerns in your business right now. >> we're very concerned. my wife is very concerned. my kids, you know, they're young and they even are watching the news and they're sleeping in our bedroom every night. so this is, it has got a big effect not only on our family but i'm sure the

families of 250 prosecutors that work for us. so, you know, we really do need to take this seriously. this may be a texas tragedy but this is a national disgrace to crime fighters throughout the state and the country. >> we saw what happened in colorado as well to the prison director there. sir, we wish you well. i sympathize with you. i can't imagine how hard it is when your children afraid and in that kind of situation. we hope the situation is resolved soon so that you all can get peace of mind and continue to do the good work that you do. thank you for being here today. >> thanks for having me. bill: that is the kind of topic they're not used to talking about so publicly but our best. a small group of senators say they will take a hit under the government's forced budget cuts by giving up some of their own salary. a new report in "the hill", reports on a measure passed in voluntarily give up 20% of their pay while the cuts are in effect. senators are giving money to

charity or handing it back to the u.s. treasury. recent surveys show, senators graham, begich, lee, rockefeller, say they would give up some of their salaries. we'll check with their offices. congress voted for it, passed by white house and congress. here we go. martha: the constitution really protects congressional salaries. you can't vote to change your salary while in office. that was instituted to prevent people from giving themselves an increase but they couldn't give themselves a decrease according to the rules. these guys are finding a way around it. maybe that will inspire other people. bill: you could write a check. martha: you could. where there is a will there's a way. bill: we'll cover the story. let us know. drones have proven rather successful in the war on terror but why are they falling short when it comes to protecting america's own borders? there is a brand new report that tells us why. we'll have that story. martha: and the sinkhole that swallowed a man as he slept. new video showing the depths of the devastation.

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martha: we've got pretty incredible video here to show the length some criminals will show to when trying to get the money out of that atm. it is not always easy. thieves in the u.k., look at that. they blew up it with explosives. an atm that happened to be at a gas station. that is pretty smart move, right? look at that. made off with money in the atm. some got blown to submitter reasons. probably left for folks who showed up to get gas a couple days later when they opened. bill: if you blow the sucker up, what happens to the money? does it burn? martha: i think some of it. they got some of it but went off with it. i think there are some blown around. bill: not a lot of smart criminals. maybe there is one there. martha: shortage of those. i don't know bp that. bill: new questions about the future of a plan using

unmanned drones to protect our border. now the program face as shortage of cash we're told. it faces a shortage of qualified staff, and legal limitations where drones can fly. the unmanned aircraft proved successful in afghanistan but it is off to a rough start over the border. we have department homeland security and secretary transportation security policy and planning. you have got a long title, my friend. you must be very, very important. good morning to you. >> thanks for letting me be here. bill: can you have border security without effective drones? >> drones are a key part of the strategy. they provide a situational awareness at good cost point especially areas rural or tough it to monitor for the border patrol but i would caution success overseas using lethal drones is not the same thing as using them domestically and not a silver bullet. we need enforcement especially in the interior of the united states and

work place and our cities. you can't just focus on the southern border. bill: i got you. according to this report, the try out of drones was not successful. s does that surprise you at all? >> success is in the eye of the beholder. they have proven successful in many circumstances. it was tough negotiating with the faa how the things would be deployed. privacy concerns and things that need to be worked out but we saw a record number of hours with the drones in the air last year. the question you will not use them to go after people physically. what do they provide for the border patrol agents on the ground to figure out where is a real threat, what is the best use of manpower on the ground? they are proving useful but it is not a silver bullet. bill: you need the air and you need the ground assets. you need both of them. the customs operates 10 predator drones over the u.s. who knew. they cost about 18 million a pop. border drones can fly 20 hours and high as 50,000 feet. that is more than nine miles high. >> right.

bill: by the year 2020, six, seven years down the road the faa says there could be 30,000 drones in u.s. skies but clearly not on the border. remember this about border security, if you want to get immigration bill passed you need republican support. seems the only way republicans will back the immigration bill at all if you're able to secure the border. if this report is true, that is not happening right now. >> we need additional money for the drone program but not just that. the sequester hurt this program like it has all the department of homeland security. so i think senators like mccain and rubio are right to push for increases here but i'm also very concerned about our ports of entry where legal passengers come through. that is where a lot of folks come in and don't leave on time. we need tracking of visa overstays while without hurting kind of the travel economy coming in across the southwest border. so i think we can have it all. i urge the senators to make sure there is funding for these things, not just writing authorizing laws to work well.

we need funding for all the programs including drones. bill: that is good point. all this will cost money. especially during this time when the sequester is out there and everybody is focused on amount of debt we have at $17 trillion. if the drone system is not practical and a lot of people are putting their hopes on this system, if it is not practical what happens to border security? >> well again, it is practical in the sense it gives them a tool to look at where the crossers are coming in, to make sure people are funneled through places where a border patrol agents are. we have a lot more hard-working individuals out there in the field. it is part of the solution but it is not the only solution. i am reminding people immigration enforcement is not justae long the border. it has to happen at every work place and every city and every community around the country. that is where we let the guard down over the years. once people snuck in through port of entry or across the mountains they are free to roam in this country and that has got to stop. bill: to that point, you

have to crack down on businesses who hire illegals. >> that's right. that is a key --. bill: why has either washington or at the state level, why have they been so reluctant to do that. >> this is the big tradeoff between the business community and enforcement advocates for many years. they wanted access to a legal workforce. so they have included in this legislation it appears a first, large guest worker program so employers have the ability to hire people but employers have been revery luck tant to agree to new mandatory checks on at the workplace unless they have access to labor that they need especially in the lower skilled industry. that is the grand bargain that has been talked about for many years. sound like they're making progress. but again, we'll have a much bigger --. bill: is that the power of their lobby or what is that, stewart? >> i think business community is a powerful lobby as it should be. we want employers to succeed in this country. but they also said, look, give us access to workers. we need workers. the economy is growing especially in workers tos on

lower-skilled side where americans will not go out in large numbers, be picking crops and nurses those types of things. it is this tradeoff. but the cost, at the workplace where we can spread the costs around, employers are part of that cost is a really good return on investment. while we need the southern border effective enforcement with drones and other things we also need to make sure we invest around the country, e-verify program being the best example of that. bill: this report deals with drones and. >> that's right. >> the rollout has not been terrific. we'll watch and see whether or not that changes. >> it's a work in progress but i think they're making progress. bill: thank you, stewart. talk to you soon. >> thank you. bill: 12 minutes before the hour. martha. martha: president obama's health care plan promises that the government will help millions of americans pay to cover their health insurance but now those same americans may actually be getting a tax hike. does that help? we'll show you what's going on. >> have a look at this, martha. how mother nature wrecked a town's fleet, the entire

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shows for their 50th anniversary. their last major tour was 2005 to 2007 only crowsed $550 million. martha: they are the new 30? these guys make it look like --. bill: a lot of folks new jersey, connecticut. that didn't see them last time around they were really impressed by vig tore -- vigor on stage. martha: they didn't live a hard life at all. all that healthy living over all those years. clean life that makes them have that longevity. we should take a page out of their book. bill: indeed. martha: how about this story this morning? some unexpected help following a desperate 911 call to a kayaker who was in big trouble out there in the water. the operator made a potentially life-saving decision. she called in somebody she knew could reach the scene faster than the police could get there. kptv's amy troy has the story for us much. watch. >> looks peaceful on the

surface but the columbia river is desemitiffly turbulent. on sunday it sunk a kayak and strand ad woman near the pilings. here is the emergency call for help. >> my friend went over but able to pull herself up on a piling. so she is okay. she is just wet. >> reporter: the county 911 dispatcher, radeyn grasseth sent a sheriff's rescue boat. then she had an idea. >> i know exactly where that is. decided well, i know some people in the area. >> reporter: in fact her own mother was near the stranded kayaker and grasseth knew her mom could get there more quickly than emergency responders. >> yes, we could see her. she had a lifejacket on. those are highly visible. >> reporter: they paddled to the stranded woman and took her to shore. she was shaken, cold and wet but not hurt. >> always humbling because i certainly seen a lot of water rescues that weren't happy endings. anytime you can participate in a rescue that is a

success and that you have what we call a good save, there is nothing that is better than that. >> reporter: grasseth says the kayaker was out of town unfamiliar with the columbia's currents. the water is especially dangerous this time of year. >> oh, she could have been dead and in no time. the water is really cold. it's, april. 47 degrees. it's a miracle that she is okay. martha: wow! mother daughter rescue team, right? call in mom in doubt. bill: 47 degrees. i mean that is below hypothermia levels. martha: but her mom was steady and went there, paddled out and got her. very nicely done. bill: for the 911 operator too. martha: yep. bill: a top u.s. commander with a warning are the korean peninsula today. why he said he has never seen things as tense as they are at the moment. four-star general jack keane will react to that. martha: and newly-released records painting a picture of the parolee suspected of gunning down this man, the

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de. martha: newly-released prison records suggest that the man who is accused of the killing of colorado prison chief tom clemments was actually a model parolee until five days before the killing spree started. welcome to a brand new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm martha maccallum. bill:. evan ebel has no previous incidents. in march he disabled his tracking bracelet. disappearing days before the murders of clements and nathan leon, a ibm employee moonlighting as a pizza delivery driver. >> one day i saw that piece and that is when i got mad. that is every other day, it has been pure hell. martha: alicia acuna joins

us now, live from denver. so according to the parole records ebel was checking in daily. he was as we said, a model parolee. what changed? >> reporter: we're still trying to figure that out, martha but something absolutely changed obviously. we've been taking a look at these parole documents released by the department of corrections here and for about 40, 45 days evan ebel checked in daily as required. he took the drug tests. even letting them know when no one called him to have him come in and take the required drug tests. then the records show in a 7:00 a.m. hour of the morning of march 14th, ebel checked in one last time. later that afternoon a tamper alert went off from his tracking bracelet. six days later after authorities tried visiting ebel's home and family they issued a warrant for his arrest but by then tom clements, the director of colorado prisons, had been shot and killed in his home doorway.

nathan leon making extra money for his family delivering pizzas on sunday, was shot dead. >> he should have never been out ever. that is like releasing a wild animal. it is bound to turn on you. >> reporter: and now katie lien has three young girls to take care of on her own. martha: my heart breaks for her. she has a rough time. as she suggested in the sound bite ebel was released early due to a clerical error that you told us about. what more do we know about that? >> reporter: that's right. we've been going over the sentencing hearing transcript in which a judge did not specify that ebel was to get an additional four years for assaulting a prison guard. now in it, the judge tells ebel that he intends to give him the maximum and might have even given him more time for punching the guard in the face if the law allowed. however, when the final

order came in the hearing the judge did not say that the sentence would be added to the current sentence ebel was serving. so that detail actually didn't make it into the prison paperwork. by law the department of corrections could not change the error. otherwise, ebel would be in prison until 2017. and according to the transcripts, ebel knew when he walked out of that prison that he was being released four years early because he told the judge, that he was going to be in prison until he was 33. martha: must have felt like he was given a gift. that gift led to tragedy for those two families. alicia, thank you very much. bill: this ankle bracelet we mentioned that ebel disabled is used to make sure parole east stick to curfews and their schedules. it transmits a cell signal to a computer and a warning is issued if signs the device is messed with or removed. >> if you remove the device intact you could get a tammer indication in either case. there is lot to it.

more than just a simple transmitter. bill: the particular bracelet ebel war is not a gps tracker. it is estimated that the technology is being used on 120,000 offenders nationwide. you wonder if it is set up in the system if somebody popped up earlier as a threat and if there's a d.a. or a judge at the head of the corrections office for the state whether or not that person is notified and notified immediately? they would be the ones who would be aware if someone was trying to get at them. martha: that would be the most efficient way to use the system. doesn't look like what that happened here. you have to wonder what happened on the morning of march 14th, if he was a model parolee something changed that led him on the killing spree. this is just so tragic. bill: unfortunately now this man is dead. >> all right. also, ahead this morning, the president heads to colorado today to push gun control proposals in denver, not far from the aurora, colorado, movie theater where a gunman killed 12

people last summer. the report will reportedly renew calls for universal background checks, an assault weapons ban and limits on high-capacity magazines. colorado state lawmakers already passed some of the country's toughest gun laws. a lot of people wonder where the mental health part of this legislation is. bill: meantime the health care tax warning for millions of middle class americans. if you do not accurately predict your future income you might get a big bill come tax time. fox business network cheryl casone is on this. good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: what is the story here? >> this is a wrinkle, one of those things that develop after a law like obamacare is passed. here's what we're finding. if you do not accurately project your 2013-2014 income, excuse me by october 1st of, 2013, that is this year you will be hit with a huge tax bill if you don't accurately put down that income. bill: why would that be, cheryl? >> great question. i'll tell you what, bill. it's a little complicated here because we're talking

about 18 million people that have to sign up for the exchanges. enrollment begins october 1st, but you will get a tax subsidy from the government to help you pay for getting into the exchanges. you legally have to have health insurance. the government will give you a tax subsidy for that, but if you don't project your income correctly, you may have to pay the government back in 2015, spring of 2015. remember, many low and middle income americans don't use tax preparers. they use turbotax, for instance because it's cheaper for them. they really are going to need to go to a tax professional to help them kind of wade through what is --. bill: will cost more money in itself. did we know this under the bill or another one of those things you just kind of coming out of the shadows? >> one of those little surprises when you get a big, guy gantic law passed like obamacare, all of sudden when you get into the details if you will, the thousands of pages, if you will, this is what insurance companies are doing right

now. this is what tax professionals are doing right now. people at the irs are doing right now. this is one of those surprises they go, wait a minute, there is wrinkle effect in all this but this will hit millions. bill: this could affect millions of americans as you point out. this is one story that popped up this week under obamacare. then there is another story, what was it yesterday, about small businesses and the exchanges being postponed and entire year? >> that's a possibility. bill: 2014 to 2015. then you have this bipartisan vote in the senate to repeal the medicare device tax, 2.3%. what's happening to this law right now in the big sense, cheryl? >> the problem is, instead of lawmakers, many like paul ryan who say repeal the entire thing, what you have is many saying, not repeal the entire law, medical device companies, you bring those up, they're saying look, this is a big revenue hit to us. this will stop r&d. this will stop people from getting catheters when they need it in the hospital. this is way to deal piece by

piece of legislation. but for millions of americans that are going to be hit by this, 18 million, they have to sign up legally for these exchanges come october 1st of this year. they could actually be penalized if they don't know exactly how much money they're going to make. that is hard to quantify. bill: in 2013 you wonder what the law will look like two years down the road in 2015. the more and more we get word on these changes. we'll watch it. cheryl, thank you. >> you bet. bill: cheryl casone from the fox business network. nice to see you. martha: you know what that means. we have got some extreme weather out there and happening across parts of central texas. record rain flooded parts of austin. police had to rescue eight people caught in flash floods in the austin area. thousands of people lost power. they got more rain expected on the way today. that same storm is the one that dropped baseball-sized hail in southeast texas. it took out more than half of the police cruisers, look at the damage there.

windows gone, whole bit in one small town. >> we lost power for a significant amount of time. we lost seven out of 11 patrol vehicles as well. as you can see behind me, they're completely destroyed. the electronics, all the windows have been completely knocked out. martha: what a loss for that small town. some houses had some roof damage. thankfully nobody was hurt. bill: suffocating smoke threatening to blind drivers as a grass fire grows. this is south miami-dade county, florida. firefighters say their biggest concern is a nearby power plant. if the fire continues to grow it might take out the plant's high voltage power lines which would contribute to more of the flames you're watching on the screen now. southern florida it is. a bit dry at the moment. martha. martha: and a warning from a top u.s. military commander saying that he has never seen things quite like this on the korean peninsula. is something about to give? very frightening situation

going on there. general jack keane will tell us what he thinks about that. plus this. >> feel free to convey to your readers and viewers that the sequester doesn't matter, and --. >> first of all i didn't say it didn't matter. i said when the secretary came in here and said we would be less safe. bill: that was only part of that exchange. the white house fiercely defending its warnings about budget cuts that deal with sequester. we'll take a closer look at those claims this morning. martha: and this is no ordinary car chase. taxi! whoa! [ anouncer ] ihop in time square to compare new griddle-melts to your usual breakfast sandwich. a lot more flavor. [ anouncer ] ihop's new griddle melts... made fresh and hot! hand crafted just for you. it's like a sexy sandwich. [ anouncer ] compare new griddle melts yourself. just $4. it's like a sexy sandwich. it's an epic breakfast sandwich.

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martha: well a top u.s. commander is now warning that the situation in north korea has gotten quote, tense and volatile in a way that this u.s. commander has never quite seen before. general jack keane joins me

now. four-star general, served as vice chief of staff of the army and a fox news military analyst of course. jack, good to have you here this morning. >> good morning, martha. martha: general thurman, i know you know, said that he's concerned that he has never seen tensions quite like this on the peninsula. what do you think about his comments there? >> well i agree with him. we had this bellicose rhetoric that's come out of north korea, particularly about nuclear war in a way we've not seen before and intensity of it. he is not concerned about a nuclear war and he is not actually concerned about a conventional attack from the north to the south. what he concerned about we have a young leader trying to prove to his people that he is strong and capable and he stand up to what he calls u.s. aggression. he is fundamentally concerned about the north koreans miscalculating. he is not worried about what they say but what they could do that could escalate into something very serious. so that's why he requested

the navy ship, the multiple aircrafts, to remind the north koreans of u.s. capability but also, martha, he wants to keep the south koreans calm. martha: yeah. >> he didn't want them to overreact. so by bringing that military force there, he is demonstrating to the south koreans, make no mistake about it, we have your back here and we're going to help you deal with this pending crisis. martha: yeah. i mean we have sent in b-2s, stealth nuclear bombers into south korea. b-52s, fighter aircraft. we deployed a navy warship. 28,500 soldiers stationed in south korea which he no doubt and everybody else in this country are concerned about. he said we are calm and confident on this side of the border and projecting what you suggested that what he would like to project. but you suggest ad miscalculation by a young leader could set off a very dangerous situation here. >> there is no doubt about it. i mean some important things for viewers to note. the north koreans have not

alerted any of their forces nor have they repositioned any. so a lot of this is talk with not much action on the ground. however, just at the end of last week they surfaced a couple of submarines in front of some south korean ships and were bating them to fire on them. so they're up to mischief, make no doubt about it. that was up in the northwest off the coast those islands where we've had incidents in the past and they have sunk a south korean vessel. martha: what do you think this is? when you look back at this with your great amount of experience in so many different theaters in the world, is this a young leader who is trying to sort of flex his muscle or is this the folks who are around him who have their own agendas, who are pushing buttons here? >> well, i think that's part of it. and the other part of it is, president park has taken over in south korea. he is sending a clear signal to her in a very early part of her, occupying her office

that the north korea is still here, we're still something to be reckoned with. at the end of the day, he really wants concessions because he's always got them. when he raises the ante, he gets usually economic concessions and diplomatic talks. it is a credit to the administration they have resisted that right from the outset. they're not giving in to any of that. i think this will blow over unless they do something stupid that results in a south korean reaction to a provocation. i'm comfortable because general thurman is experienced. he is savvy and he has his hand on the throttle here, he is working with the south koreans and he is also sending clear messages to the north koreans. talk all you want but we're watching what you're doing. martha: we're watching what is going on at the nuclear facilities as well. there is plutonium concern about the facilities, what about that, before i let you go? >> i think that's still part of the theater and the result of this. the real thing that took place was the missile testing in december and the

nuclear testing in february. i think he threw something out just to put that back on the table again. but i don't think much is coming of it. martha: general, thank you very much. always good to have you with us. we'll see you soon. >> take care, martha. have a good day. bill: we have breaking news right now on a story that really blew open this morning. fox news alert. a source at rutgers university confirming with fox news its head basketball coach, mike rice has been fired. our producer, working that story is also told an official statement will be released soon. this is a tweet now, sent from the rutgers athletic department, quote, based upon recently revealed information and a review of previously discovered issues, rutgers has terminated the contract of mike rice, end quote. there will be more on this moments from now. we'll bring that to you when it happens but the crux of the story of this. there were hundreds of hours of videotape, practice largely, practice at rutgers university, where this coach was seen in an abusive manner and, well, a young

man went to espn and blew the lid off --. martha: former player. bill: a lot of behavior during the practice. it was not well-received. it appears mike rice is paying a price for it. martha: the wording in the tweet. they talked about he will havements they knew about before. i'm very curious what the recent developments, what has changed in this dynamic. what we learned on background on this is that these tapes have been around for quite some time. the university was aware of them and stood by mike rice. in fact they suspended him for three games and gave him a $50,000 fine. what have they learned since then that so dramatically changed their mind besides the fact this beme a more public issue that they have decided to fire him. they have questions to answer. bill: just looking at computer to see if more information is coming in. that is all we know at the moment. college athleticses are tough especially at division one level. they are very demanding a folks are expecting a lot of things of their players. martha: physical pushing and throwing basketballs at

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martha: well, we've seen a lot of wild car chases but this is a wild taxi chase. look at that! looks like a move individual set, doesn't it? a driver in a stolen cab, lost control, skidded across a florida highway, narrowly missed another driver and took off again as we often see them do. police took up the chase. reached 100 miles an hour at one point. they trapped the suspect in shopping center parking lot. did not stop there. this was a wild one. there he goes. he is off to the races. they chased him down again. they finally tackled and arrested hill. i never seen anyone getaway from these. caught their man at the end, looking for the tip. get back here. cab drivers in new york drive like that every day. big return to the public stage for former secretary of state hillary clinton as support grows now for a potential run in 2016. now for the white house, there is mrs. clinton

speaking at an awards events honoring women leaders in washington, d.c. carl cameron was there. he is actually with us now, live in our bureau. what was the event all about, carl? good morning. >> reporter: this was event for a group she founded in 1997. she got standing ovations. she is founder of the group vital voices honoring women leaders around the world. it offer ad peak at top democratic choices for 20916. shared the stage with vice president joe biden. hillary is making all kind of moves suggesting she is interested in the 2016 race. she is not talking about publicly. her first paid speech will be made in texas. she will give a big speech there on the economy. yesterday while at this speech outside a couple dozen supporters out there are urging her to run for president in 2016. including some of these volunteers and some of these demonstrators here from the super pac called, ready for hillary.com. they started it in february. it's, not been discouraginged

by mrs. clinton in any way. they have 100,000 supporters and adding about a thousand a day. all the early polls and there aren't a lot of them say she is the frontrunner and when you're not, when you're not discouraging your organizers from going to work for you it means you may well take the opportunity to run. biden is fully aware of that and making his own moves. they were on stage together. bill: he was there also? >> reporter: he was. bill: what's he been up to? >> reporter: he is busy. vice president will be 74 years old after the election. clinton would be 69 years old two weeks before the election. joe biden is busy. hinted about running himself during the president's re-election campaign. during inauguration ceremonies, he invited visitors, supporters of the obama administration, from iowa and new hampshire. they were in town for the inaugural. they went up to the vice president's mansion for a pow wow and cosi talk up there. he will give a speech at big

fund-raiser. it next month he actually goes to south carolina and talks to their big jefferson jackson fund raidser. south carolina is the host of 2016 first primary in the south. he is also visiting with folks who will host the if you first caucus and primaries in iowa. clinton is getting ready. both are reluctant talking about it publicly. making it clear organizers and supporters get to work. it is time. bill: we'll watch the calendar and the map. thank you, carl cameron live in washington. martha: fox news alert. rutgers university just announced the firing of their men's basketball coach mike rice after a series of videos came to light. we have been watching this story this morning. we just announced that breaking news moments ago. rick leventhal joins us now on it. rick, what do we know about this? >> reporter: it is not really a surprised, martha, he was fired. a lot of people were surprised he wasn't fired last december when the university decided to suspend him three grapes and fine coach rice $50,000.

they were mulling after learning about individual yos that show the coach at practice shoving players, pushing players, throwing basketballs. you see there at players. and what you can't hear is the language he is using which we can't repeat on television. he is using racial slurs and calling them any number of names that you can imagine. the university decided today to end its affiliation with the coach, terminate the contract. apparently there were some negotiation over his exit. there was a tweet that was just sent out by the university a short time ago that said, based upon recently revealed information, and a review of previously discover issues, rutgers has terminated the contract of mike rice. he had a couple years left on a $3.25 million contract. martha i heard you mention this earlier. the recently revealed information or reviewed information is basically people reacting to that video for the first time. martha: yeah. that is exactly right.

there's we'll find out. there is no indication there is new information in this but clearly, or it appears i should say rutgers made a very different decision when everybody else saw the video. they as you said saw it three months ago. >> reporter: they may have rethought it and realized perhaps they made a bad decision back in december when they only suspend him. the athletic director told espn which first aired the video this was his first offense and there was not a line of players out the door complaining about the coach when they learned about this. in fact one. players said that they knew the coach went overboard but no one was scared of him. they didn't fear him. they understood him and that this was just highlights from practice. it wasn't like that all the time. hundreds of hours of practices, they called the video and pulled the worst of it. but apparently you know, while the players didn't mind as much, the reaction on the to this video airing across the world forced rutgers to make a very different decision. martha: yeah.

there was one player who is suing and that is another catalyst here and he was part of the story that played the other night. so we'll see where all this goes. you're right. some of the players say they didn't have a problem with the way he based. >> reporter: we should say rutgers has not released an official statement beyond announcing it was terminating the agreement. we expect rutgers to speak or release a statement within the hour, perhaps sometime today to go before the cameras to discuss the issue why they made the decision today versus the decision they made back in december. martha: yep. thank you so much, rick. we'll see you later. >> reporter: sure. bill: statement by the rutgers university president is just out right now in our computers. a long and proud history of nation's well-diversified academic in on for three paragraphs. we'll get to that in a moment. the point rick makes here, at relationship between a player and a coach is very unique. sometimes these coaches invite interaction with their players and sometimes they do not. we'll trace the history for this coach and his players

coming up here. we'll get you the statement for the president. in the meantime how about only taking home 25 cents on every dollar that you make? it is happening. it is a super tax and in place and we'll tell you where in a moment. martha: new reaction from the white house suggestion that is the administration may have exaggerated impact of automatic spending cuts. >> you're editorializing enormously in that. >> how so? february 25th, she said, if you have 5,000 fewer border patrol hours or agents you have 5,000 you tooer border patrol agents that has real impact. those are not her words. that is not politicizing. >> right. how is that not the those dreams have taken a beating lately. but no way we're going to let them die. ♪ ameriprise advisors can help keep your dreams alive like they helped millions of others. by listening. planning. working one on one. that's what ameriprise financial does.

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bill: tough new questions now for the white house about the impact of the sequester budget cuts. watch the following exchange, it takes place between fox'sed henry and the white house press secretary jay karen aoefplt it runs about a -- it runs about a minute and a half. we want you to see the back and forth. >> feel free to convey to your readers and viewers that the sequester doesn't matter -- >> i didn't say it didn't matter. >> the secretary came in here and said we were going to be less safe. people were going to be crossing the border because there are less border patrol agents. they announced yesterday, actually we are not doing that. i'm not saying it's not important, i'm saying did you mislead the public. >> shut lee not. you're editorializing enormously

in that. >> how so? february 25th. she said if you have 5,000 fewer border patrol hours or agents you have 5,000 fewer border patrol agents, that has a real impact. that is your words. >> and how is that not the case? they announced yesterday they are do the doing that. >> there are reductions. whether it's those -- go ahead and report that,ed. >> she said 5,000. yesterday she said we are not doing that. >> talk to those who have been laid off at defense industries. that you can to those who have been furniture load -- look you can obviously go to dhs -- sph she said we are going to be less safe. >> right, and the impact of the sequester will not all be immediate. if you can predict to me when the sequester will end, if it will end when republicans will make the faithful decision to fund border patrol agents or fund our national security interests or fund head start at

appropriate levels rather than continue to extend tax breaks to the healthy and well connected, tell me 4 that happens, and then we can assess what damage was done after the fact. bill: okay now art laffer is here he was the economic advice tore president reagan. he spent some time in these circles. welcome back to "america's newsroom." >> thank you very much. bill: the point being made there is that homeland security said you will get 5,000 fewer border patrol agents, and this week we found out that they've pulled back on that decision. in part because they want to make sure security stays writ is today. what do you make of this back and forth? >> well i think it's very good that they did pull back on that, and they are having the full security there, butted henry number one has done a great job in ferreting out this information. all administrations when things come up like this that are political in nature, they always say the worst is going to happen, and when the actual world comes back the worst never does happen, thank goodness. but i do feel very sorry for jay

carney because he doesn't under what is going on. he's given all sorts of conflicting information from the administration, and he doesn't know how to respond so what he does do is he gets angry and then he starts the scare tactics. he reminds me very much, i was in the white house from 1970 to 72 as the first chief economist at the omb under george schultz and watching ron zigler. reminds me of him all the way he's backed into a corner,ed henry has got him and he tries to come out with aggression and scare tactics. bill: you say the imagination can be worse than the reality. now are you suggesting that members of the government imagine things to be worse? or do you believe there was a planned strategy to let people know that this was going to go and this was going to go, and that was going to go and in the end very few of it so far has gone anywhere? >> yeah, well there are a lot of people who do imagine the worst, they really do. there is always some beast behind the door, just don't open that door. and they always imagine what will be, could be terrifying.

it almost never really comes true, bill. it almost never does and the administration is in a political game here and they are playing their card as strongly as they can. just listen to jay carney's comments about you republicans are going to help the rich and not getting more borders. it's just -- it comes out all the time. bill:ed henry was right. >> he was total low right. bill: completely right. bill: there are a lot of republicans who believe that there were tarred cuts to make sure that the pain of the sequester was felt. >> yes, i know. bill: you don't believe that is the case. >> i can't believe that a government of america would actually go out and hurt americans for political gain. i done think they would make the borders less safe deliberately. i don't think they'd make the airways less safe deliberate tee, just to show those republicans what not to do. i can't imagine a world that would be so crass and so awful that this administration would do that. i was in the white house in 1970 to 72 and there were all these

types of things going on back then, but i don't remember anyone ever saying, let's make the situation worse to show those dam democrats how bad they are. bill: do you believe the sequester threats were oversold? >> yes. bill: do you believe they have not yet settled in? they are oversold by a huge amount, bill. the sequester problems will be very small come compared to what the administration said they would be. bill: art laffer thank you out of nashville. talk to you soon. >> thank you very much, bill. martha: a first look inside the sinkhole that killed a man in florida. remember when we brought enthusiasm awful story? the sinkhole opened up beneath his bedroom. look at how specific and deep that hole is. phil keating is live in our miami newsroom as we get a closer look at what happened here. it's just unbelievable, phil. >> reporter: yeah this clear lease, the sinkhole 60 feet deep.

several people were sleeping in the home, the homeowners daughter sleeping in the bedroom right next door. this brand-new released video is the best we have seen of the chasm today shot by a contractor who mounted a camera on a poll from outside the house. it appears through a window showing what was jeffery bush's bedroom. his bed is gone, the dresser is gone. shelves on walls still not touched. this is brother watched this new video last night. he was swallowed up by the hole. >> his bed was over here. and when it collapsed it was over here. as you can see you can't see nothing in there now. >> inside the hole just dirt and darkness. since this happened hillsborough county, florida condemned both houses next to bush's home after further geological testing those families remain displaced. experts say there's increasingly at risk for sinkholes like these

due to the state being largely underlaid by limestone and moving water in aquifers. bush's family hopes to put up some sort of a memorial to his life on that site which for 40 years stood a home but is now bush's grave today. martha: so sad listening to the family. it's hard to imagine a more shocking way to lose a family member. bill: when it happened we thought for sure he would find his body and it just went day after day and they think that sinkhole could have been a hundred feet or more. martha: one of this is family members said nothing in the house, nothing moved. it's bizarre, awful. tpaoebg accident. bill: does president obama defy the laws of political gravity? while fox's brit hume that the full way to the president's agenda is now coming down on him. >> there was a sense after the election that he was politically bulletproof and that the republicans were in disarray and scattered, and that he could have his way. it's not turning out that way

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barack obama after all. martha: interesting from last night. joined now by our terrific panel, alan colmes the host of alan colmes radio show and fox news contributor. tucker carlson editor of the "daily caller." and cohost of the 5 on the weekends. congratulations, tucker we are so glad to have you on board in that way. let me go to you, alan first. what do you think about what brit had to say. >> presidents typically in their second term don't have as long a honeee moon period and don't rate overall as well as they did in the first term. it's not surprising that president obama is in the high 40s, still pretty consistent where presidents normally are at this point in the presidency and congress continues to have one of the worst ratings we've ever seen for congresses. you've got to look at it in that perspective. martha: we looked back and looked at president bush who had

44 approval rating at the same point. but you know -- that is historically true. tucker, i do want to get to brit's point about healthcare. because the question is, you know, is that issue going to be something that will be a good legacy for president obama or lit turn out to have been something that caused him lower numbers across the board? >> well, it's hard to know. i mean legacy suggests decades and we'll have to find out then. but in the short term, meaning in the next three years i mean it's a mess. you can't find a person who can -- will defend obamacare flat out, at least when you hold it up against the promises the president made about it when he was trying to get it through the congress a couple of years ago. the truth is you're not going to see any democrats in swing district running on obama care. you're not going to see a single one say i voted for obama care, vote for me. these guys always over reach, presidents in their second terms always think god has ratified their program. i think obama even more so, and he over reached earli president i'm aware of.

martha: i think that is a really interesting point. alan, can you think of a congressional democrat, when you think about the victory that this was hailed as, and i think about joe biden you know he said it was a big you know what deal that it was so exciting and wonderful, is anyone going to run on this exciting, wonderful plan now. >> over time, i teu tucker has a point we may have a different view of it looking in the rear view mirror. a lot of it doesn't kick in until 2014. martha: 2015 we are hearing. >> when you ask people and kaiser family did a poll on this do they like the individual parts of the healthcare plan, for example tax breaks for small businesses, exchanges, prescription drug part of the program, people seem to like it but many of them don't even know according to a bloomberg poll that it's associated with the affordable care act. i think people need to be educated about it and i blame the democrats for not doing a good enough job of selling the plan to the american people. martha: you have half the states that aren't even going to participate in the exchanges. and you also have a number of

taxes that are slapped on small business, including a $63 per person tax that is going against them in that regard, so tucker, i don't know, you know -- >> the idea that the people don't like it because the president hasn't talked enough about it is hilarious. >> i didn't say that. i said they didn't sell it well. >> the core truth if my view about human nature is people like free stuff or stuff they perceive as free. the bill, now a law was sold as a pinata of free stuff. the truth is it's not going to save healthcare costs. nobody even makes that claim any more. it's super complicated. it is beyond the understanding of the average person and it will restrict choice. they are not for those things. >> i think you're right that it's super complicated. that's why many progressives, myself included prefer a less complicated fan. 9% polled wanted a more liberal plan not a less liberal one.

among those who don't like the affordable care act a certain percentage don't like it from the left not the right. martha: a lot to talk about as we look at the president's second term. we'll look for you this weekend. congratulations again. alan good to have you again. bill: the key to that is you want to stay out really late friday night. [laughter] >> i'm already doing it. bill: and also put on lots of liberals. bill: see you guys. there is a bitter battle over a 75% super tax, but guess who is fighting back? the soccer team that is saying, no way. they are not going to pay.

bill: a new french super tax. try this one on 75% tax rate. it will hit the nation's most

popular soccer stars and they are reacting to it. so ised makowski, managing partner of chap wood investments. how you doing,ed, good morning to you. the players aren't happen aoeplt what can they -- happy. what can they do about it. >> when the president went into the social lis party. he propose thred would be a super tax levied on individuals. that got shot down. then he said we are going to go after big companies and heavy that tax. it turns out to be it trickles all the way down to soccer teams and any company that pays a million dollars of salaries, roughly or more is going to have a 75% tax. well that is then going to be taxed all the way down to all the people that even go to the games because they'll have to make that money up somehow. nobody is happy with this tax. bill: that's the point. so now the players are going to revolt because they want to protect their salaries that they fairly negotiated. but the government is broke and

it's looking around for revenue in every dark corner it can find it. you look here at home in places like california, stories like this pop up, right? how is that thing managed there? sph i've got to tell you it's very similar. it's early similar to what is going on in california and new york and instead of changing the way you do business and maybe doing the complete opposite and reducing taxes, which i, you know, support, you're seeing the complete opposite of what need to happen. you're seeing businesses leave california or you're going to see businesses leaving france. don't be surprised if some of the really, big great soccer teams decide to leave france and go to other countries, maybe not in the same area of europe because they are doing the same thing there, but go to other places where there is a favorable tax treat. same thing is happening in california and new york as well. bill: it's not an overstatement to draw a president bush a hrel between paris and what is happening in parts of california then? >> absolutely not. we are starting to see it in other places all throughout our country. we really need to take a lesson

from what's happening there. now you're not going to have as good of players at the soccer games. less fans, rest revenue. it will be a negative trickle effect and we are going to see everything start to come down in terms of -- in france you're going to see lesser quality, lesser quality of play, you're going to see everything start to ripple there. you've already started to see it. they need to change their ways, bill. bill: i think of phil michelson every time this pops up. we'll see what happens in california. ed bukowski live in dallas, texas. martha: new information in the brutal murders of a texas district attorney and his wife. what investigators are now focusing on as they search for his killer and hers. we'll be right back.

bill: okay. moved quickly d