martha: hope you'll check us out there. we'll see you right back here tomorrow. bill: tomorrow. bill: see you tomorrow. martha: buy, everybody, see you tomorrow. >> reporter: a college basketball coach under fire all over the internature is fired. hello lime gregg jarrett in for jon scott. jenna: john rice is out of a job after a video goes viral showing him berating his players. he shouted slurs, through basketballs at their heads and legs. the rutgers' university saw this months ago and he was fine. after this video came out there was talk about why this man had a job. >> reporter: rutgers tweeted out

the news after the officials and university negotiated his exit from his multi-million dollar deal. the president released a statement saying in part. rutgers university has a long and proud history as one of the the nation's most diverse and welcoming academic institutions. coach rice's abusive language and actions are deeply offensive and violate the core values. he says the university hired an independent investigator look into the matter after seeing this video from practice showing the coach hitting and shoving players, throwing basketballs at their heads and bodies and calling them names we can't repeat on television. the school as you mentioned suspended the coach for three games last september and penalized him $75,000 in lost salary also offering anger management counselor. after this went public the president revisited the matter. he says, quote, yesterday i personally reviewed the video evidence which shows a chronic and pervasive pattern of

disturbing behavior. i have now reached the conclusion that coach rice cannot continue to serve in a position that demand the highest levels of responsibility and public accountability. he cannot continue to coach at rutgers university. we have determine natured his phraeuplt at rutgers. rice has supporters. one former player says the coach went overboard but no one was scared of him. saying quote, we didn't fear him, we just understood him. governor chris ties tee of new jersey released a statement saying that this was regrettable but he understands the decision to remove coach rice, it was the right and next action to take in light of the conduct displayed on the videotape. jenna. jenna: any news that comes out on this story we'll bring it to our viewers. thank you. >> reporter: won't be surprised if a d.a. wants to look at assault and battery charges. "happening now," north korea raising more concerns in the

international community as the erratic government shows no signs of backing down from a series of belligerent moves leading to the possibility of a all out military conflict with south korea and the u.s. north korea cutting off on of its last link to seoul today barring south korean workers from an industrial park jointly run with the south. this as the u.s. sends a second naval destroyer near the korean peninsula both ships armed with ballistic systems. greg palkot is following it live. >> reporter: the latest target of north korea an industrial park seems pretty innocuous. we were around the site a couple years back and there is not too much to see. it's a very potent and important symbol of cooperation between the north and south maybe the last symbol of that. the factory complex is inside north korea and produces $2 billion a year in products. there are about 120 south korean companies operating there and

50,000 north korean workers. they are managed by about 900 south korean managers. and that's who north korea as of today is banning going into that factory complex. many had remained inside there from earlier in the week so the factory continues, but in fact all splice to this complex have been cut off. ironically a possible shut down of this complex could hurt north korea more than south. we know that in fact pyongyang gets a very good cut out of the earning inks from this complex and while the wages to the north korean workers are meager they are very welcome. meanwhile the united states continues to put pressure on north korea in the region. the pentagon announcing that that second guided missile destroyer will be joining the u.s.s. john mccain. the two of them according to the spokesman for the pentagon will be poised to respond to missile threats to allies and the united states. and having shown the flag across

the skies of south korea and basically serving their purpose for the moment at least the f-22 stealth fighters are heading back to their home base back in japan. so far at least today we have had no new utterances from north korean leader kim jong un. his ally china has been very busy. a top official from china has been meeting in beijing with ambassadors to the united states, to north korea, to south korea, china is expressing its serious concern and these are the words of china calling on all side to remain calm and exercise restraint, maybe breathe in deeply. back to you, greg. >> reporter: thanks very much. jenna: we are getting new information about the murderers of a texas district attorney and his wife. kaufman county da mike ma khre mcclellan and his wife were found dead a. funeral is set for

friday and investigators are still looking for the killer or killers leaving many in this small community on edge. >> one minute you hav dad and the next minute you don't. picking off prosecutors one by one in that county. and it makes you just wopbldz, you know, are you -- wonder, are you next on the list or who is? jenna: less than two months ago assistant district attorney mark hasse was gunned down in the parking lot. he worked for ma khrel land. investigators are trying to determine if the murders are linked. dan springer is on-the-ground there with the latest for us today. hi, dan. >> reporter: hi, jenna. officials here aren't saying anything. police are being very tightlipped. everyone else you talk to say these two d.a. murder have got to be linked. we are learning more about about how police are going systematically through and check being out the people who might have a grudge. you can bet there is a long list. one man in particular a former justice of the peace met with

police hours after the murders were discovered. eric williams reportedly turned over the shirt he was wearing and allowed his hands to be tested for gun residue. d.a. mike ma khrel apbd and his deputy prosecuted williams and got a theft conviction. it centered on the stealing of three computer monitors from the county building. mcclellan pushed for jail time but he was sentenced to two years probation, but he lost his job and law license. his conviction is on appeal. he has not been named a suspect in the murder. security remains tight around subject 0 officials and county courthouses in texas. we are still seeing armed escorts in kaufman county and several d.a.'s now have a full time security detail. in houston, federal prosecutor jail heilman has removed himself from a high profile case against the aryan brotherhood. this is the one that led to 34 indictments against the white supremacist gang and tphold by threats to public officials involved. >> i understand why someone would want to step back, and it

makes sense to me, especially people that have families. >> reporter: there is also a new report out that the mcclellan -d has a motion detecting camera system installed at their home but it wasn't working. back to you, jenna. jenna: wow, more from that area in just a little moment. thank you very much, dan springer. we'll be talking more about this story. not only is it a big story in the state of texas, really it has national attention as well. at the bottom of the hour governor rick perry will join us live on this topic and tell us more about what his office is doing about it and what we should also keep in mind when we continue to cover what is next here on this investigation. >> reporter: turning now to the national gun debate as lawmakers grapple with reducing violence more police departments all over the country are trying to make sure that their officers are not getting outgunned by the criminals. jonathan serrie following this one live in atlanta. jonathan. >> reporter: hi, greg. nashville police and the

missouri highway patrol are just a couple of the law enforcement agencies from coast to coast that are upgrading their weapons. much of this is in response to high profile shootings in newtown, connecticut, aurora, colorado and other places where the criminal was armed with a high-powered semi-automatic rifle, listen. >> you know the old saving you don't want to take a knife to a gun fight, well it's the same situation when you talk about an officer going into a confrontation with a suspect with a handgun up against an assault rifle. >> reporter: that's exactly what happened in the normally quiet upscale suburb of brentwood, tennessee n this dash cam video a police officer is using her rolling control car as a shield against a bank robber just out of frame who was firing at her with an ar15 rifle. she and another officer were injured prompting donations from local businesses and individual to buy brentwood police a weapons upgrade. listen. >> we raise over $50,000 in less than two months which was enough to outfit each officer with an

ar15 patrol rifle. >> i'm happy we have not had to use the guns in service since then but i'm very comforted by the fact that we have them in the event that we need them. >> reporter: brentwood police tell us they believe the upgraded weapons have been serving as a deterrent throughout all these years now that the criminals know they no longer out gun the cops. greg, back to you. >> reporter: jonathan serrie live in atlanta. thanks. jenna: an nra-funded task force is taking a controversial stand in the gun control debate in the wake of the newtown shooting pass occur they are calling for armed security personnel in every school. this as president obama heeds to colorado today, he's pushing lawmakers to pass the new gun control legislation. we will ear talking a little bit more about that. plus a former volunteer firefighter and his girlfriend are due in a virginia courtroom today, why? apparently there are charges related to a string of arson fires. the breaking details in a live report straight ahead.

gregg: right now, new developments in the national gun debate in the wake of the newtown tragedy. connecticut lawmakers expected to pass some of the strictest gun control laws in the country today, calling for background checks on all firearm sales, expanding the state's assault weapons ban, and a ban on selling or buying ammunition magazines holding more than ten round. in the meantime a task force funded by the national rifle association rolling out a brand-new plan aimed at training armed security personnel in every school. here is task force director and former arkansas congressman assa hutchison. >> if you are euptde interested in making our schools safer and childrens lives look at these recommendations seriously and

the presence of an armed security in a school is a layer that is just as important as the mental health component. gregg: all of this as president obama heeds today to colorado, stepping up his call for new federal gun laws, including universal background checks for buyers, and at least a vote on assault weapons ban and limits on large capacity ammunition magazines. charlie hurt joins us, a columnist with the washington times. good to see you charlie. it's been three months since sandy hook tragedy, and emotions which at the time were extraordinarily high overt issue of guns seems to -- over the issue of guns seems to have calmed according to polling data. public support for a whole bunch of ideas on gun control seems to be slipping considerably. why is that? >> i think as the emotions sort of recede from the just horrible, horrible tragedy that we witnessed there, sort of

cooler head tend to prevail. this has always been the problem with politicians, politicians are always wanting to glob onto any up surge in emotions in anything. and they want to play the hero and savior by coming up with laws even if laws are not really the answer to something. and the problem for them is they get stuck with whatever their ideas are, and the public kind of moves on and kind of comes to the very sad realization that maybe laws aren't what the answer is. gregg: at least not a federal law, maybe state laws and that's up to the state. even the president seems to be backing off on his message. now he's talking -- he just wants a vote on an assault weapons ban. i mean is that -- because he really realizes on capitol hill he can't even get a bunch of members in his own party to back that. >> absolutely, gregg. the important thing to remember about that, with president obama, is that at the first two

years of his administration he controlled the white house, he and his party controlled both chambers very comfortably in congress, they had a filibuster-proof majority in the senate, and if they had wanted to do this. and by their own account these measures would have prevented something like sandy hook, well then they should have passed those laws back then. they didn't. the reason they didn't is because they didn't want to lose control, it was all politics. he wanted to get reelected and democrats didn't want to lose congress. gregg: nevertheless the president and the white house at large keeps using prehistoric and suspect statistics. for example he keeps saying over and over again, 40% of gun buys circumvent background checks. well when you look at it it turns out it's a 20-year-old study, and inch fan test mali small just 250 people. is he kind of guilty of using falls stats?

-- false stats? >> absolutely. in addition to that like with all of these issues it gets very complicated when you get into the specifics of it. when you talk about people who quote unquote evade, you know, background checks, what you're talking about is a neighbor selling his shotgun to his neighbor. well does his neighbor really have to conduct a background check to see whether -- or say, a father who has a son who reaches that important age of maturity where he gets fist first gun? is that violating the background check rules? of course not. that is exactly how you foster responsibility in young daughters and sons, and so this whole debate is kind of crazy. gregg: i want to get your take on the nra, they came out with their study, which backs their argument that they want to have some, at least one trained individual in every school in america, armed with a gunment but highly trained.

what do you make that of? >> you know, gregg, i hate to sort of beat up on the nra because they've been so beat up on. but, you know, they really ought to keep their mouth shut about that. you know, if that is an option that school district individually feel comfortably doing then that is a decision they can come to. the nra talking about putting armed guards in every school they sound ridiculous and actually what it does is it amps up the rhetoric all over about this and creates sort of a frenzy of fear when they talk about that. they really should just shut up about that and sort of stick to dealing with the -- what i would call kind of loopy proposals that keep coming up from politicians who keep branding them common-sense, but they don't -- it's not very common and it doesn't make much sense. gregg: charlie hurt. thanks very much. good to see you. >> thank you, gregg. jenna: it's day two of an epic manhunt in texas, one of those being hunted for is an accused

killer. the latest on the search for these through dangerous escaped inmates. we are following escalating tensions out of north korea today as the rogue nation makes another move blocking south korea from entering a jointly run industrial complex. why some believe this is the point of no return. next. with two kids and a mortg. luckily, he found someone who gave him a fresh perspective on hisortfolio. and with some planning and effort, hopefully bob can retire at a more appropriate age. it's not rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade.

texas right now as several schools remain on lockdown with a manhunt underway for two escaped inmates, one of them an accused killer. rick folbaum is following it live in the newsroom. >> reporter: we are tracking this one, tpwr*e gregg from down here. all of texas is on high alert and with good reason. no sign that these two fugitives

that you mentioned are connect ned anyway to the murder of a state prosecutor and his wife. these two men broke out of the hop ki hopkins family jail yesterday morning. this is the only picture we have of the two but they may not look exactly as they to in these photographs. both of them recently shaved their heads. three-day growth on their head. tucker has a tattoo on the back of his head saying drop deed. it was cold and rainy in the area, these guys were definitely looking to get themes indoors somewhere. tucker is 44, 5'7", 170-pound. the other guy king is 39, 5'8", 165. anybody with any information is asked to call the hopkins county sheriff's office. we'll put the number up for you there it is on the bottom of the screen. schools are on what they are calling a soft lockdown. they are open for kid, but if

you don't have any actual business at the school you're not being allowed on the campus. the sheriff's office says that they are doing their best to respond to homeowners and business honers who have asked for deputies to come and search their property in light of these two guys being out there on the loose. apparently a common request today and with good reason back to you. gregg: thanks. jenna: returning to one of our top stories now, north korea raising serious concerns in the international community at this hour, barring south korean work tprers a factory come -- workers from a factory complex jointly run by both countries. it generates a lot of money for the cash-strapped north and is one of the last links with seoul. let's bring in retired major general bob scales. he previously served in south korea. we like talking to him about these issues. nice to see you general, scales. >> you too, jenna. jenna: why is this news about this con complex such a big deal? >> it is a big deal, jenna for the following reason. look, this is the last chip that

the north koreans have to spend in this enormous ponzi scheme they are running. short of kinetic engagement, that is military speak for somebody shooting. there is nothing more the north koreans can do to intimidate the south or the united states other than shutting down that complex. that is a canary in the gold mine. when they give up their principle source of legitimate exchange that tend to show the north koreans are very, very serious. who knows what will happen next, if kim jong un is going to keep to his promises there is fear he might do something kinetic, fire an artillery round. jenna: one general said i see this as the start for more provocative actions. the north has made too many threats some stop short of any

real action. the question is today, what can we do as a nation to discourage any kinetic activity? >> yeah, here is the thing. people i talked to in south korea really don't understand kim jong un. they had some idea what his father and grandfather is all about. but this guy is a total mystery. he's a 28-year-old sociopath who not only doesn't under nuclear weapons, probably, but he doesn't understand war. he's fired three of his senior generals and sent them off. he is if anything sort of isolating himself. when you create political conditions like that you create an enormous amount of uncertainty and unknown and an enormous amount of risk. he's ratcheted up this whole thing. people in north korea, in pyongyang are literally exhausted running off to these civil defense drills for fear that we are going to bomb their city and now all of a sudden is this just going to end with a whimper, or does he feel so insecure and so ill-informed

and so isolated that he might do something rash like fire artillery or rockets in the south. if that happens, then the south koreans are going to respond. jenna: we've had comments coming from this white house about what we should do potentially now considering the environment. here is what jay carney said yesterday on this. >> we have worked with our allies most recognize plea at the united nation's security council when a resolution was passed unanimously with china and russia condemning north korean behavior in this arena, and we will continue to do that. meanwhile we obviously take the steps necessary to insure the capacity to assist our allies and defend the united states. jenna: we are condemning them? here is a picture by the country, by the way we want to show our viewers this again. this is what north korea and south korea look like from a

satellite issue at night. take a look at the north, it's completely dark. we talked about isolation. what is condemning a country that has barely any electricity do for us, general scales and let's hrurpb t return to that question. what can we do proactively to reduce any conflict? >> right now not much of anything. i have to applaud the administration for their show of force with b52s, and b-2s, and moving missiles closer into south korea. those are all positive movements. when the north korean as go ka at the time nick when they start shooting somewhere in the south all the talk ends and that changes everything and then the south with the help of the united states is going to have to respond probably ka net i can lee and that's -- kinetic lee and that's when things get very, very serious, jenna. jenna: general scales great to see you as always. thank you so much. gregg: a texas district attorney and his wife murdered in their own home just months after a close colleague was gunned down

in broad daylight outside the county courthouse. we'll talk with a former homicide detective about this case. and new concerns that taxpayers could have yet another solyndra on their hand. the company that could be headed down the same path to bankruptcy. charles pane joins us next. [ anouncer ] ihop in time square to compare new griddle-melts to your usual breakfast sandwich. a lot more flavor. [ anouncer ] ihop's new griddle melts... made fresh and hot! hand crafted just for you. it's like a sexy sandwich. [ anouncer ] compare new griddle melts yourself. just $4. it's like a sexy sandwich. it's an epic breakfast sandwich. . ...

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gregg: threats of violence have authorities at ohio state university on high

alert right now. rick folbaum following this breaking news story in the newsroom. >> reporter: we're trying to get new details on this. let me tell you what we know so far. university police letting students, faculty and staff at the university know about this possible threat. officials at ohio state as we take a look at the school's website where the threat was posted, tipped off what they're calling the potential public safety threat of violence today, specifically centered on one of the school's cafeterias. police say that they learned about it through postings to videogame website where players engage in fantasy role-playing. apparently somebody posted something on one of those sites leading to this warning now. the university is of course investigating. extra police and security posted on and around all campus dining facilities. we're told that not only university police but local police in columbus, ohio, along with state and federal law enforcement helping out. again this is on the columbus campus of ohio state university.

we're told the fbi is looking for people, perhaps some witnesses or people who might have more information on this to interview them as we learn, more, gregg, we'll pass it along. >> rick, thank you very much. jenna? jenna: "happening now", new information on the murders of a texas d.a. and his wife. kaufman county d.a., mcdonald little land and his wife cynthia were gunned down in their home last weekend. reports say mclelland was shot 20 times. his wife shot once near her front door. they come two months after mclelland's assistant d.a., mark hasse was killed outside the county courthouse. investigators are looking whether the killings were linked. and we're learning about a former county judge who was fired and they're questioning this individual. rod wheeler, former police investigator. there is bad blood between the county judge and these two men. what do you make of what you read so far about the potential of him as a suspect, which by the way he is not right now? what do you think about this?

>> first of all i think it is important to note this individual is a person of interest, which doesn't make him a suspect. now the police, the law enforcement authorities in texas, they actually interviewed this individual who was a former judge. he had some kind of a beef with the prosecutors back in january and he was actually terminated from the job. so, you know, this guy had made some threats in the past. they interviewed this former judge this past saturday and this former judge apparently told the police he is willing to do whatever it takes to clear his name. so at this point, jenna, it appears this guy may not be the prime person that they're looking at because he has been very cooperative in this investigation. jenna: from the little we know about the murders this weekend, rod, what does it tell but the criminal that committed them? >> well, there's a number of clues real quickly here i think the police can go on. by the way there is some other new news that just came out this morning that the police released. i'm not sure if you heard yet. they are saying they

honestly believe there were two vehicles with large tires that came to the home of the mclellands this past week and committed this crime. they were able to get tire tracks from two large vehicles. which indicates to me as an investigator, this was not an act conducted by one individual. the other thing really significant here. if you remember when the first assistant d.a. was killed back in january, it was clearly shown by the witnesses and told to the police that there were two individuals committing that crime as well. so again, all of these pieces of evidence is going to be looked at by the police including a ballistics analysis test that they're conducting right now on the bullets, jenna, that was taken from the victims this past weekend and they're comparing both bullets to the bullets taken from the first assistant d.a. back in january. jenna: great new information for us, rod. we appreciate it as always. look forward to having you back to talk more about this case as the investigation continues. thank you. >> thank you, jenna. gregg: growing concerns this hour as another

taxpayer-backed green energy company is reportedly on the vern of a solyndra-like collapse. the california based solar company was babbed by the obama administration before declaring bankruptcy back in 2011. now experts say fisker automotive could be headed down the very same path despite receiving up to $529 million in federal loans. that's your taxpayer dollars. and of course some high-profile celebrity endorsements from the likes of leo dicaprio and the beebs. that is reason enough not to like that company. charles payne is an anchor on fox business network. ceo of w street.com. another solyndra? and a real tragedy for american taxpayers? >> it is a real tragedy for american taxpayers and more increasingly like it is going to be another solyndra, another solyndra that didn't have to happen. you talk about those celebrities but there was another celebrity involved,

al gore and, you know, just like solyndra seems like these guys who have real great connections to the president, somehow get involved in these things and what i love to see once the dust settles on this one way or the other to see how protected some investors were. you remember in solyndra a deep pocketed billionaire whose risk came before our risk. in other words, you know what? if something goes wrong we'll pay you off. gregg: that is against the law by the way. i want to put up on the screen some of the companies that have gone belly-up. solyndra, 527 million in taxpayer money. beacon power, 43 million. abound solar, 68 million. and i will add to the list some other companies. enter 1, a123 systems. fisher coach works. what is going on. are the people, for example, in the government and department of energy simply not qualify to look at a company and decide whether it's a make-or-break company? >> well, they're definitely not qualified.

there is no doubt about that. what else is going on, you have technologies that are going to evolve. how many people don't think it's cool to drive a fist kerr? if you seen a solar power car, that would be cool. this is trillion dollar industry. it will happen. somehow the government has to make it happen today, all they do is create things where it become as giant money grab. seems like politically connected people get a chunk of that money and it comes at our expense. gregg: you can see fisker not being a good, viable company, they could see it. they were a design company. tesla, for example, they were a company that invested four years worth of research into batteries. they are a success story. they got government fund. and of course we gave money to the companies making batteries for the chevy volt. so in fairness there have been success stories. >> there have been but too far and few between. tesla, for instance, to your point, they started, 4-year

ahead start on fisker. they started on actually a supply chain. gregg: right. >> they concentrated on the nuts and bolts of business. fisker wanted to get a sexsy car and before they got the kinks out of that they want ad second car. they weren't vetted properly. tesla has a guy elon musk who is respected around the world from paypal and other things. he can raise money around the world. this was a viable business and this obviously was not and a giant money grab. it is not just this. the whole clean energy initiative, if you will, 90 billion put in the stimulus package for it is wrought with this kind of stuff. i would like people to go look at some solar farms in the america. look how much money was put into it by taxpayers and look at permanent jobs created. it is pit at thisful. gregg: wasn't joe biden supposed to make sure all the money was spent? nobody messes with joe? >> relied heavily on corzine for the economic advice. gregg: we know how that

worked. charles payne, good to see you. >> all right. gregg: jenna? jenna: a new twist in the trial of a woman accused of murdering her boyfriend. why the judge just removed a juror in the jodi arias hurt trial. details in the murders of a texas district attorney and his wife. where investigators are focusing their efforts. texas governor rick perry joins us live to talk about that story and more more than two years ago,

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jenna: texas investigators are now focusing on the cases of the district attorney that was killed, was murdered over the weekend. mike mclelland and his wife cynthia were found shot dead in their home last week. this follows another murder in kaufman county and this is certainly really captured the attention of nation with these cases. texas governor rick perry joins us now. governor, nice to have you back on the program. >> good to be with you, jenna, thank you. jenna: what's the latest from your office what is going on with this

investigation into these murders? >> well, obviously this is going to the highest levels in the united states as well it should. the fbi is very involved along with texas rangers, state police and of course the kaufman county sheriff's department and their pd as well. so, i would suggest a substantial number of law enforcement paying attention to this. a little early to be speculating with any assurety about who the participants were, the criminals involved in this with mr. hasse's earlier murder and mike mclelland and his wife but there's certainly an undercurrent of concern about elected officials being targeted here. you all know that as late as yesterday there was a u.s. attorney who pulled out of a trial in houston who was dealing with the aryan brotherhood. so there's great concern from elected officials

across the country i would suggest to you. so, but again, too early to speculate. we got a great team of texas rangers involved with us. i feel comfortable they're doing everything they can to get to the bottom of this so we can either put precautions into place or deal with it in the appropriate way. jenna: have you increased your security or any members of your team as well? >> well i try to remind people regardless of who they are, you know, their personal safety is certainly, to watching what's going on around them. to be prepared and that's certainly the case. unfortunately we live in a very dangerous world, whether it is in north korea or whether it's right here in the state of texas. so my advice as always, certainly be watchful of your surroundings. know what's going on and for those that are in these high-profile positions, the governor of the state of texas has a security detail. the lieutenant governor does. there are others and in the

state who don't have access to that. so i'm sure there are conversations ongoing and local police departments and certainly in the state police about how to make sure that our elected officials are in fact safe and secure as they can be, as they conduct, this goes to the heart of america. if you think about, it, official suppression. the threat of taking out individuals who are keeping our streets safe. i mean, i hope all americans are greatly concerned about this and supportive of both our legislatures and our law enforcement as we go forward to put into place the types of support they need. jenna: on that, governor, you mentioned this briefly. you said it is a little early in the investigation but you mentioned the aryan brotherhood. that is something that we have not spent a great deal of time covering in the national press over the last several years. that is something really kind of come up as we discussed this story. i would like to draw upon your expertise as a three-term governor of

texas. what do you think about the accusation that is the aryan brotherhood is somehow involved here? how much credence should we give those reports? >> i think it is obviously as i said too early to be speculating whether there is any direct contact, but again, i think it is wise for us to not overlook any evidence that either may be superficial or otherwise. so they are here. they are active in this state. we know the drug cartels are very, very active in our country now. it goes back, jenna, to the whole issue of border security and the failure of the federal government to put the men and women, whether they are military, or whether they're border patrol or whether working with the local law enforcement, expend dollars necessary to secure the border with mexico and make sure that these individuals who are having rather free access at this particular point in time, whether it is taking money and guns into mexico or drugs coming back and prostitution and sex

trade back into the united states. that's of great concern. i would suggest to you, it is really at the heart of this issue. you secure the border, then it makes it harder for these individuals to have access into this country as well as it addresses this whole issue that's hanging out on immigration. jenna: as you mentioned, we still don't know exactly who the suspects are in this case, whether or not that is tied to drug cartels, the aryan brotherhood and who else. i'm glad you brought up border security. i like to talk to you a little bit about the immigration reform debate that's happening in washington, d.c. and how it applies potentially to the state of texas. governor, if you would, i will take a quick commercial break. we'll be back on that topic in just a moment [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful?

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jenna: texas governor rick perry is back with us now. we'll talk a little bit about immigration and,

governor perry, the big debate that's happening in washington, d.c., maybe there is big deal between republicans and democrats and maybe there is not on immigration reform. what happens to people already in this country illegally, do they get a pathway to citizenship? what does that look like? sir, what is your official stance on offering illegal immigrants a pathway to citizenship? >> well, even during the presidential debate we talked about immigration a good deal. i think all too often the single most important issue got left not said. it was not debated and discussed enough. and that is of course border security. you can not have a immigration policy until you first secure the border. i mean if we've got a rotating, resolving door, if you will at the border, then it doesn't matter what your immigration policy is. it will not be successful. jenna: so let's just say hypothetically, governor,

the border, they came up with this great plan for border security and you're completely on board with that, it looks great. so then what about the pathway to citizenship? >> well the pathway to citizenship is there. it's always been there. it is to get in line and pay your dues and to meet the requirements of citizenship. i mean that's frankly pretty simple. now if the current administration and or those in washington want to somehow say, oh, all's forgiven and amnesty is the issue they're talking about, that is not going to be successful. we tried that back in the '80s and it was highly unsuccessful i would suggest to you. there are ways and thoughtful ways and, i think very productive ways to have a conversation how you transition from the illegality of the individuals that are here to a form of identification where they are still clearly an alien from the standpoint of our laws and their

citizenship. jenna: but they would stay in the country? >> yes. i think the idea that we're going to deport 12 million people is just, you know, that is not reality. reality is we have individuals that are here. we have to bring them out of the shadow of illegal galty by identifying them and what have you and i'm sure there are wise people in washington, d.c. that can come up with a way to do that and do it in a way that does not impact the ability for people who have been in line for a long time to become citizens of the united states, not be bumped. jenna: governor, great to have you on the program. we would love to have you back to talk about health care. i didn't even get to the questions about health care. i hope to have you back to talk about it. >> we will do it. the state of texas is ready to participate but not in the expansion of medicaid as this administration wants to do. that is a disaster. jenna: that was answer to question i would ask. we only needed 15 seconds for that. governor, great to see you

as always. thank you so much. >> yes, ma'am, thank you. gregg: disturbing new details about the parolee suspected of gunning down the head of the colorado department of corrections. what happened days before the shooting spree started. mowing your lawn isn't always easy. but maybe the problem isn't your lawn. introducing the all-wheel-drive mower from husqvarna. we engineered its unique drive system and dual transmission to handle hills& thick grass& and tough terrain& without losing traction or power

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>> reporter: we are here in the control room working on brand-new hours we will bring to you over the next 60 minutes a. loft people looking for jobs just like that in construction and other areas of the economy. brand-new numbers out show that the private sector's hiring is showing down. what does that mean for the overall economy that just can't seem to pick up much steam. we'll break it down. video just into fox's newsroom this is a sink hole in in a that swallowed a man alive. we will get a view of it like we have never seen before coming up in a couple of minutes. and say hello to the mountain man of utah, there he is finalla six-year crime spree robbing cabins in the state's back country.

he is actually relieved to have been caught. that story for you, all that and breaking news as the second hour of "happening now" starts now. jenna: breaking news, details emerging about the parolee suspected of two murder this colorado. a brand-new hour of "happening now," i'm jenna lee. gregg: i'm gregg jarrett in for jon scott. records show that evan evil followed the rules wearing an ankle bracelet and reporting to his parole officer until he suddenly disappeared days before the killings began. by the time a warrant was issued for his arrest two people were dead, a father who was working a second job to provide for his family and colorado state prison director. a day later evil was killed in a shot out with police in texas. alicia ac u.n. a is following the story. at what point did the department of correctses lose track of this guy? >> reporter: it was about a

month and a half into his parole, according to their paperwork. up until that point evil was wearing his tracking bracelets, making his daily calls into his parole officer and also participating in his drug tests. on march 14th, however, he kaeuld i called in the morning, that afternoon he removed his ankle monitor. it took six days before an arrest warrant was issued on march 19th at the colorado home of the prison director for the state cops say evil shot and killed tom clements in his doorway. evidence shows he killed nathan leon while he was money lighting as a domino's driver. his wife talked about him being set free. >> he was in there for a reason. they should never let him out, never, they should have locked his butt up and threw away the keys. that's what should have happened. >> reporter: evil was set free four years early by mistake.

gregg: are there any more details on how he was set freer lee? it seems impossible. >> reporter: it really does. we now have the transcript from the sentencing hearing where the errors began. in it it is clear that the judge wanted to give evil the maximum sentence allowed for assaulting a prison guard. you even see evil arguing against it. he says, quote, i'm not trying to use it as a justification i just think four years is a little stiff, you know, by the time i get out i'll be 33. but when the judge gives the order he does not specify the four years will be consecutive, therefore it didn't make it into the paperwork to the prison. the families likely have no recourse. >> the government protects itself. if the government is negligent and it results in harm to you tough luck, they have governmental immunity. >> reporter: and the clemnts family is not commenting at this time, gregg. gregg: two dead by a clerical

error. alysha ac u.n. a thanks. jenna: aeu head of the big jobs report on friday a survey showing private reporters added 158,000 jobs last month. that is fewer than analysts expected. take a look at the markets now trading slightly lower today. lori rothman joins us with this. >> reporter: we were hoping for. this is payroll's processor and they do this monthly survey on the number of private sector jobs create. the number was a little bit soft and it's weighing on the markets. keep in mind the dow and s&p 500 index both closed at record yesterday, some pull back was expected. perhaps investors are looking for an excuse to sell because stocks have come so far so fast. let's break down this latest ad perks report from march, 156,000 jobs were create. let's say that the glass is half full, let's take the optimistic

approach. 47,000 large business jobs, 37 medium business jobs and 74,000 small business jobs were created in just the month of march. once again proving that small business is the engine of broader economic growth. again this all sets this up as you said for friday's government report, the department of labor will report to us the payroll's creation for the month of march and the expectation is 200,000, which is down from february's government counting of 236,000, so that is concerning, but the unemployment rate is expected to hold steady at 7.7%. a lot of numbers there, let me bottom line all of it for you. the unemployment -- the employment let's call it that, the employment situation is improving, though we are seeing some fits and starts here not ready to call a pattern of jobs, not as many jobs being created. we are on the right track but to put it in perspective we have a long way to go. jenna: we'll take that perspective and keep it for friday as we see some of the

numbers come in. lori, thank you. gregg: we are getting our first look inside that deadly florida sinkhole. remember that? it was a terrible story last month, a massive hole suddenly opening up underneath a home in central florida and burying this man, jeffery bush alive. now weeks later and for the very first time we are seeing images of the gaping pit from inside that house. phil keating is live in miami with more. hi, phil. >> reporter: hi, gregg. it turns out this deadly sinkhole also included the closet of the bedroom next door to jeff bush's, and that's where the homeowner's daughter was sleeping at the time this happened. this brand-new video shot by a contractor who rigged a camera on to the end of a pole, stood outside the house and period through the window to show what was where jeff bush slept. the sink home itself 60 feet deep. when you look in all you can see is dirt and darkness. his bed, his dresser, the floor, all sucked down, just

disappeared. while bizarre lee shelves and clothing on the wall still exactly as they were. 37-year-old jeff bush died in that sinkhole. his body has never been recovered, ruled by the county too dangerous to even try and retrieve him. >> there was no cracks in the walls. there was no -- the house when the hole opened up the house did not even move. the house did not shake, it did not move, nothing. >> reporter: she and bush's brother jeremy also lived in that home. as you may recall he desperately tried to dig his brother out at the time. since this happened hillsborough county, florida condemned both houses next door to bush's home after further geological testing, too dangerous there still those families remain displaced. listen to this. four sinkholes, four of them have been reported in this area east of tampa just in the past month. experts say florida is

increasingly at risk for sinkholes due to the state's being largely underlaid by porous i'm stone, immense underground aquifers and a growing population that is using that water. the bush family says life is still far from normal, they all still have trouble sleeping at night especially after being there and seeing what happened to jeff bush when he went to his bedroom to go to sleep in a house that stood for 40 years, normally on top of ground that suddenly became his grave. gregg. gregg: phil keating. thank you very much. jenna: right now tracking new developments in the case against a virginia couple accused of deliberately setting more than 70 fires. rick has more on this. rick. >> reporter: this is a boyfriend and girlfriend and state police in virginia say they are responsible for most of those deliberately set fires that have been scaring folks along the state's eastern shore since november of last year. tanya b u.n. dick we hold you about her yesterday. she and her boyfriend, a former volume even leer fireman,

charles r. smith iii were arrested early yesterday morning, police pulling them over not far from the latest crime scene, an abandoned house in melfa. >> we are confident that they are responsible for the majority of the fires set since november 12th of last year. all of the fires have targeted abandoned or vacant property, residential and commercial structures. we've been very, very fortunate that no one was injured in any of these arsons. >> reporter: the woman has her court date today, smith's hearing was postponed for some reason. he should be making a court appearance soon. both are going to become familiar faces at that courthouse. police say more charges are coming and anyone with any information who could help investigators who are still work th-g case should call the virginia state police. back to you. jenna: rick, thanks. gregg: the key feature of

president obama's healthcare law promising help for small business owners? well it's not going to be ready on time, maybe never, who knows. but the delay means that many workers won't have any choices when it comes to getting insurance. plus, a notorious fugitive on the run no more. how the law enforcement community finally caught up with utah's back country ghost. the new guy is loaded with protein! i'll believe it when i--- [ both ] oooooh... [ female announcer ] as you get older, protein is an important part of staying active and strong. ensure high protein... fifty percent of your daily value of protein. low fat and five grams of sugars. [ major nutrition ] ensure! nutrition in charge! as well as they could because they don't take it with food. switch to citracal maximum plus d. it's the only calcium supplement that can be taken with or without food. my doctor recommends citracal maximum. it's all about absorption.

jenna: welcome back, everyone. after a six-year chase police in utah finally get their man, an illusive, self-styled survival lis wanted for a one man crime spree and he is now under arrest. rick as more -fpblts this guy had a pretty long run, jenna. it's someone that law enforcement in utah have been looking for for six years. the mountain man burglar as he was called because i went around

robbing people's cabin tph-s utah's back country. troy james nap is 45 years old, there he is with the red beard and gray specs. police found him on the ground, from the air, , a helicopter. he fired shots at the chopper. thankfully he missed. he was caught, he surrendered. he got chatee, cooperating with the police, telling about his adventures even showing him a map of all the cabins that he had robbed over the years. police also say he told them he was kind of glad to be out of the winter elements, though, jenna we have to guess that he might change his mind after he find out how much time he's about to spend behind bars. back to you. jenna: after being alone in the wilderness for so long he had a lot to say. >> reporter: he might like the company in jail. jenna: we'll leave it there. rick, thank you. gregg: no kidding. a new set back for obama care, the administration telling small business owners they are going to have to wait an extra year before they have shop for health

insurance in exchanges. until then they can offer only one plan to their workers if they use the exchanges rather than a range of options steven hayes a consider writer for "the weekly standard" and a fox news contributor. exchanges will help small businesses, that was the sales job, you remember, steve, and now it's not going to happen for at least another year and a lot of folks are saying it may be longer than that. does this underscore that certain parts of obama care if not all of it were ill-conceived and considered? >> yes, most certainly. although it has to be said there were a lot of people making these kind of warnings before the law was passed, suggesting that the way that the law was set up, the structure of the law, the proposals that the obama administration were floating won't make sense and would be difficult to implement. this is one example. it's one example of a promise that the administration made that they used as you correctly

point out to really sell democrats on this plan as something that will help small businesses. that hasn't come to pass. i think it's a big political problem for the administration, but more importantly i think it's a big problem of substance for the country. gregg: one of the other things that may happen is small business owners may decide, you know what, i just can't get continue to operate this way, i'm going to give up, i'm going to stop offering healthcare to my workers, and then, you know, workers are forced to go out and get it. >> well there is a huge incentive already built into the law that suggests that small businesses will do exactly that. that is not the only issue that is affecting small business owners. you're having rule-writing, regulation writing taking place at hss, at treasury right now trying to determine how other parts of this law are going to affect small business owners. you've had some back and forth with people from for instance the retail industry, people who run restaurants, trying to make

sure that their concerns are at least heard if not taken into account as these regulations written. but you've got a whole series of these kind of problems and challenges and difficulties that are presenting themes sort of behind the scenes now that i expect fully in the near newt to surface in a public way and we'll see more of these kinds of challenges. gregg: there is another problem with obama care. 79 u.s. sevens recently voted to -- sevens recently voted to repeal the 2.3% sales tax on medical devicess. the house did pretty much the same thing although the president is vowing to veto the repeal. is this another fatuous aspect of obama care? >> well, yeah, it's not the only thing that is causing problems. you had some democrats who opposed the medical device tax at the time of implementation, at the time of passage of obama care, but you have other things. you have the class act that's been repealed, a reversal on the way that medicare advantage is being treated in the law.

you have challenges in the court system by oklahoma, challenging whether the federal government can provide subsidies when the law says that the states that are the ones that can provide subsidies in the context of exchanges. you have another challenge on civil liberty ground boy hobby lobby. gregg: they are warning workers and employers that their premiums will go up because of this thing. united healthcare said it could go up 116%. that is the exact opposite of what the president promised, right snow said premiums would go down. >> right, exactly. ultimately this was a challenge to common-sense. if you go back and look at the president gave to congress, the final big sales pitch in effect what he was saying was, we are going to cover more people, it's going to cost less, and the insurance provisions, the coverage will be better. i think for many americans it's one of the reasons that the law still has the skepticism of so

many voters, that just doesn't make sense, you just can't do it that way. gregg: and company did a study and a report that says one-third of employers may cancel their coverage for workers. we'll wait and see. steve hayes, thank you, good to see you. >> thanks, gregg. jenna: up next the latest in the jodi arias trial, why the judge dismissed juror number 5 and the impact it could have on the case. must what jodi arias' mother said about her own daughter to police. our legal panel is here on that. plus also on the docket for our panel the murder trial for the man we now know was never, ever a rockefeller. what his ex-wife testified about, his years of lies. phra [ male announcer ] red lobster is hitting the streets

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jenna: well, right now testimony is set to resume on what will be

day 40 in the jodi arias murder trial. this after the judge send one of the jurors home. airy as could get the death penalty if she is convicted of murdering her lover, travis alexander. she admits to killing him in a grew so many attack but claims she did in it self-defense. and now we have brand-new video of her parents in a police interrogation. adam housley seems to get all this brand-new video. he is live from los angeles with more. >> reporter: that juror dismissed by the way there are still 17 jurors and they'll seat the jurors now with less alternates when it eventually goes to the jury. it's really not a huge deal that the juror is gone. again, one of the twists and turns in this case and that comes to this video we're talking about. you might remember a couple of weeks ago we had that video of jodi arias being intertpwaeuted back in northern california back in 2008 when investigators knew she kheutd the crime but was giving them other stories. she was standing on her head and doing all these crazy things. we've recovered more video from the same time when investigators

were interviewing her parents. this is her mother talking about stkwroed r-r back in 2008. take a listen. -- jodi arias back in 2008. take a listen. >> how could somebody, you said she did this come become and just be normal. >> i don't know. >> jodi has mental problems. jodi would freak out all the time. i had quite a few of her friend tell me i needed to get her some help. some called me in the middle of night and told thee she needed help. >> reporter: again that is jodi arias' mom back in 2008 as investigators told them they had a lot of evidence that jodi arias likely committed the crime of killing travis alexander. that was her response. you can see her mom sitting back there as jodi arias blames a lot of her problems on a tough up bringing at home and talked about the issues that her and her mom and her and her father had, yet her mom is in court each and every day. court gets back in session with the last defense main witness on the stand. she is the one, the woman who claims that by going through

emails and interviewing jodi for 44 hours that she was basically abused by travis alexander mentally and she is getting into the physical part again. this is direct examination by the defense team. we are waiting the time when the prosecutor gets his chance to cross-examine her. that is when the fireworks happens inside the courtroom. a lot of stuff going on you a juror dismissed, the final defense witness and more video coming out of her family being interviewed in 2008 and more video throughout the day on fox. her father being interviewed talking about jodi arias and more sound from her mother. you'd be quite interest towed hear what they have to say about their own daughter. jenna: we'll be most interested in that. that is for sure. day 40 and counting as we mentioned in this trial, adam, thank you. >> reporter: all right. gregg: let's bring in our legal panel faith jenkins former prosecutor and esther panich a criminal defense attorney. faith, let me start with you. i'm not sure that there is really any hard evidence that the victim here was an abuser so

in some ways does this kind of remind you the old menendez brothers, gee, dad abused us and nobody, not even the jury ever bought that? here we are 14 weeks into this trial and there is not a single piece of physical evidence that has been produced to show that travis alexander was really an abuser. this witness that we have on the stand now testifying about emails where travis was a flirt an was flirting with other women. i mean, this is obviously a smokescreen, and now we have this stunning video where her own parents are telling us, she had mental issues, they knew about it. her friend called her parents to tell them that she was having all of these issues. this is clearly not about a woman who was abused, and defending herself because of her boyfriend and what he did, this is about her and her own issues. gregg: esther, i wonder, there are a lot of lesser included offenses here that the jury will select from, not just

first-degree murder. you know, maybe some of the jurors will buy this. you know, post-traumatic stress disorder, heat of passion, sudden impulse, won't that qualify for manslaughter instead of murder, maybe negligent homicide? >> right, or even a second-degree murder. if they can show that the crime was not premeditated. if they show that there was some version of self-defense, or that jodi just snapped, but didn't pre-plan to kill travis, then they could come back and actually the judge will instruct them that they should come back with a lesser included offense, which then of course would do the job of taking death off the table, and that would not be something that the jury would have to determine, death or life if the jury comes back with anything less than first-degree. gregg: this is a ridiculous li ridiculously long trial. it has entered its fourth month. it makes you wonder if lance ito

is presiding. remember the fake rockefeller the german conman who spent years pretending to be a member of a wealthy family, the rockefeller family. his ex-wife took the witness stand in his murder trial and said she too was fooled. sandra boss is her name, a top business analyst with mckenzie a company, he told her and convinced her he was estranged from his family and in receipt stroe specht she didn't believe she fell for his lies. he is charged with murdering and cutting up the body of john sohus in 1985 and burying his body in the victim's backyard. back to our lawyers, faith, you know, it's a fascinating, ridiculous story, but they can't prove this case against him, this murder case in san marino, california, can they? >> there is really no link between the defendant and the actual crime, and we've talked about this before, gregg. it's not just about what the

prosecutors believe happened, it's about what they can prove at trial. and that's the issue here. the only evidence they really have is this bag of bones found in the house where he -- gregg: in the backyard. >> in the backyard of a house where he used to live with the emblem of the university where he used to attend. gregg: right. >> that's really it. gregg: you know what, if i'm the defense attorney i'm going to say, that is not john sohus, there is no dna evidence of it, because sohus was adopted and nobody knew who his parents were. there is no dna evidence here to even show that that is sohus. >> no dna evidence, no eyewitnesses, it's a very tough case and i'm really not sure why this has progressed to trial. gregg: now, esther you don't have to have a body to prove a murder case, right? >> right. but in this case they actually do have a body. gregg: it may not be his. >> they just can't identify it. >> that's right. then you can't convict someone of a murder of a person if the victim is not the person you think he is. so it's -- and if i may -- new

don't have to have a body to get a murder conviction. >> i don't think in any state you have to have a body, but, gregg, if i can just go back, you said that it's hard to believe that this woman, his ex-wife would fall for this? people who are liars, people who are murderers, many of them are sociopaths, are narcissists have a way of compartmentalizing their lives so that even the closes people to them don't know a certain side of them. it is entirely possible to believe, and want to believe in the goodness of someone and yet that person turns on them. i mean if you even just look at our divorce rate, people who marry the person they think they know later turn around to say, that really wasn't the person i knew. so hind sight is certainly 20-20, but it's hard to fault the person who was haoeufg with them for not seeing that horrible side, that dark side of that person. gregg: thank you very much,

faith jenkins, esther pani ch, good to see you both skrao gregg has never been fooled by anybody. gregg: that is not true. jenna: right? gregg: i'm not going to go any further. jenna: he is an american who wants to be the next president of iran. even though he lives in new jersey. why a man who calls the united states home feels compelled to get on the ballot in iran's upcoming election. we'll tell you a little bit about his story. he's here with us. plus lots of buzz about her next move after leaving the state department. hillary clinton back in the spotlight soaking up a little attention, and guess who was sharing the stage?

gregg: hillary clinton is returning to the spotlight now sparking new speculation about her plans for the future. her fans are hoping the former first lady will return to the white house, this time as president. chief political correspondent carl cameron is live in washington with more. >> reporter: this was clinton happens first appearance since retiring as secretary of state and she got a pretty warm reception last night. 2,000 people at the kennedy center for the vital voices awards dinner which is something that clinton found ned 1997. no surprise she got a big ovation. no politics was really discussed. she is definitely back on the national stage. last notice she shared that stage with vice president joe biden who is also eyeing a white house bid. clinton will give her first paid

speech coming up in texas. in june she will head to michigan for a big economic address. a couple of supporters were outside the kennedy center urging her to room. some were from the superpac known as ready for hillary.com. it began in february. they have a hundred thousand supporters and add baggy a thousand day. she is clearly the frontrunner according to the very early polls and quite conspicuously she has not been discouraging supporters from organizing. biden on the other hand will be 74 years old three weeks after the 2016 election. hillary will be 69 a couple of weeks before the election. biden has made it clear he's interested in running. he's met with key ab activists from iowa, and new hampshire that took place over the president's inaugural week's festivities earlier this year. biden will go to michigan and headline a fundraising dinner and then next month he goes to south carolina and he'll go to a big democratic fundraising dinner there as the headliner. south carolina is the home of

the first southern primary in 2016. if clinton doesn't run biden may not, but in the meantime he is doing everything he possibly can to get ready and she is beginning to do the same thing as well. gregg: carl cameron, thanks very much. jenna: gregg, now to another presidential race completely, this one in iran where ayatollah apparently according to reports is biding his time in the election in june, not crossing the nuclear red line until he sees who emerges as the next president. during the last vote iranians took to the streets to protest what they called rigged elections and now an unlikely contender is coming forward, a 40-year resident of the united states who wants to run for president of iran. he ace professor of public policy at rutgers university in new jersey and he joins us on set. its nice to see you doctor, thank you for coming in. >> thank you for having me. jenna: how after living 40 years in the united states can you

even attempt to run for president in iran? >> first i have been going back and forth to iran almost every year a few times. i have even been in the war front when iran and iraq were fighting, i spent three years in the front, 86, 87, 88, not to fight but to assess war damage and help the victims. i have been back in iran during the earthquake disasters, a few times. i have been in iran quite a bit. so i have extensive writing on iran, doing research on iran, advising governments there. so i've had very extensive relationship with that country. jenna: why do you want this job? >> well, i think iran has become a major issue internationally, and anywhere i go i can see that everybody really is interested at what is at stake in a better iran. i believe i can make it happen. i think i'm in a position to make that country a bit better. and i think that everybody would like that to happen. i have been a peacemaker for

almost 27 years in u.s. and iran and that is a major issue with the two countries. i am in a position to help there. i have never been a member of any political party or factions and therefore i am in a better position to bring them together, and finally, my job is economic development that is my phd and i teach at rutgers that particular field. iran did need someone that can manage that economy and understand the international economy and i think i am that person. jenna: elections in iran are different than ours of course n. may you have to actually officially get on the ballot. there is some what of a question of whether or not that will happen n. 2005 you tried it was not successful. we'll see what happens this time around. you say you would like a different iran, and we certainly have talked a lot about iran when it comes to the nuclear program and human rights abuses as well. how would an iran under your presidency look if the ayatollah also still remains in power?

>> first obviously i'm running within the system. i think you can't change the country without changing the system. china is a great example of a country where still the communist party is in power, but the country really has changed. they've changed the policies internationally and domestically. it is possible. over time the system also gradually will reform itself to common terms -- come in terms with the reality on the ground. itch think it is possible and under my presidency i think i will obviously stand for principles. i have a platform, an 80-some page platform in english and in persian. i have put that on the table for the iranian people. i have told them that i will do for every single area. jenna: specifically what is more to our viewers is the nuclear program. >> yes. jenna: what are your thoughts on that? how do you think iran should approach the world when it comes to developing a nuclear program some say not for nuclear weapons, but obviously that is

what the international community believes that iran is doing. >> iran -- the solution to that problem is very easy, the he'sist problem to solve honestly. i tell you why, first iran is a member of the mpt, you don't have the right to civilian technology, nuclear technology, but within certain obligations. a major part of thattable tkpwaeugthat obligation is transparency. iran has to become open and transparent what about it is doing. jenna: do you think they are doing that. >> the problem is not that. the problem is trust. the international community has lost trust in the islamic republic. and they don't trust what the international community is asking them to do. the first important thing is to establish trust and i think i will be in the best position to establish that thrust. i have lived in this country long enough, i know the language here, the culture there, the language there and the culture there. i know what they say -- what

they say a, and b what they mean. i will be in a better position to solve that problem he's here. jenna: we have a great ally in israel in the middle east, the one democratic ally there and recently the ayatollah said, you know, based on where the nuclear talks are going that if there was some sort of military intervention he would destroy tel-aviv would be one of the places that he would destroy, a military strike on israel. what are you thoughts about israel and iran as neighbors? >> i'm always surprised as to have israel and iran are even a mes to begin w. they have no territorial problem, no religion problem. no historical problem, no problem whatsoever. the only problem that exists between iran and israel which is also true in the case of the u.s. is that back in 1979 a revolution happened that islamic revolution. it happens that that revolution had certain ideologies and ways

of looking at the world. according that ideology the islamic flossie me must support the ideology. it's a two state solution. jenna: it's nice that there are so many solutions out there doctor. >> if tomorrow i assure you if tomorrow palestinian get a state next to israel, iran's problem will disappear jew say iran right now is do for another revolution you believe? >> i think it's do for reform. i didn't say revolution. i think what i'm saying is that iran -- three decade or less or more plus iran goes through changes. i mean this has been the history of iran for almost 120 years, that after 30 years, after 25 years that country goes through certain changes. and i think we are coming to that point. jenna: we'll follow your story

intensely over the next couple of weeks. no that you're going to be going to iran, coming back, making a major speech in new york and we'll follow you. it's a pleasure to have you on set. >> thank you very much. one thing i wanted to add quickly is that my dual citizenship is no problem. most people i see here and there they are telling dismiss the campaign by saying he's a dual citizen. i just wanted to be on the record for everybody, that dual citizenship is not a problem whatsoever. jenna: we look forward to seeing you. great to have you. and thank you, and thank you, and thank you. gregg: an airline interest dutiesing a controversial new pricing system for passengers, skinny folks may be thrilled about this. others are outraged over the weigh more pay more policy. and pope francis praying at the tomb of one of his predecessors. we'll tell what you occasion he's marking and what the vatican is saying about it. ♪ you know my heart burns for you... ♪

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jenna: pope francis honoring a modern day saint praying at the tomb of the beloved pope john paul the ii on tuesday mark being the 8th anniversary of his death. while the new leader of the catholic church has said headlines with breaking with tradition the vatican said his appearance at the basilica was evidence of his spiritual continuity with past popes. john paul was pope of course several years ago. he died in 2005. his successor pope r-r becam pope benedict the xvi was the first pontiff in resign earlier this year. gregg: doing more with less when it comes to defending america. defense secretary chuck hagel set to give his first major address in his new post. steep cuts coming the pentagon's way. >> reporter: the new defense secretary is expected to talk about dealing with very

difficult fiscal realities at the pentagon which may lead to a reduction, firing troops and rejecting more weapons systems. secretary chuck hagel is talking at the national defense university about what has been described as the new dense party reality, smaller budgets and rethinking military policy. hagel will tell a military audience these money issues could lead to fundamental change and even greater prioritizing of resources. the task is cutting defense spending while making sure the military continues to attract top-notch personnel and can keep up with american security commit tph-pltsd a dangerous world. hagel will tell this military community that it's been at war for more than 11 years that they won't be tweaking existing structures and practices, there will be major changes to deal with 21st century realities. this message is tough for a military dealing with the impact of across the board spending cuts which took effect march 1st as part of sequestration $41 billion in cuts this fiscal year. the pentagon spokesman says

hagel is trying to show solidarity with those feeling the pinch. >> i had a discussion shortly after he took office with the secretary, and he will voluntarily subject part of his salary to furlough levels, even though he's not required. he has committed to that. >> reporter: one tough message hagel is offering is reducing layers of upper and middle management, cut costs and red tape. he argues it also leads to a more effective organization with junior leaders having more power and clout. gregg. gregg: mike emanuel in washington. thanks. jenna: an airline creating controversy over how it charges passengers. it signs a little bit like the pricing formula used at your supermarket and some are not so thrilled with the weigh more pay more policy. more on that after the break. [ shapiro ] at legalzoom, you can take care of virtually

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a luxury sky scraper hotel in chechnya. there you see it every single floor, according to miss on the scene and firefighters is engulfed in flames. they say everybody got out, they say there were about 300 people inside and they got out. among the apartments there french film star and tax exile gerard depardeaux, but he is not there in the country at the time. jenna: an airline is getting heat over a new pricing policy. rick has the pricing policy and why it's so controversial, rick. >> reporter: ment more you weigh the more you pay, and that is not samoa air's official slogan but it might as well be, it's their policy. you know that u.s. airlines are paying attention. today for the very first time samoa air's pay by weight

pricing system is being used on international flights. >> since we have service to international, we have the awareness of the pay by weight system and the indications are that once people have acknowledged that their air flight runs by weight and not by seat it makes it easier for them to understand. >> reporter: understand, maybe, appreciate not really. at the time you buy your ticket you give your weight. for the typical male american 195 pounds, traveling what 35-pound back. $97 for a round trip flight between the island of samoa and the american city of pago, pago. 60 or 70 dallas more than the competition charges. if you are you're skin year and you bring less luggage you pay less. if you show up at the gate and you look heavier than you claim you were when you bought your ticket you may be asked to step

on a scale. i'm not joking. no one so far has refused. jenna: it's like filling out your weight when you get your driver's license. oh, i'm rounding that to the -- you know. >> reporter: exactly or your height. you're always a half-inch taller. jenna: a little bit taller y not. isn't going to hurt anybody. i guess if they check it could be kind of embarrassing. gregg: you weren't honest on your driver's license. jenna: i did look at it the other day and i said, that is not my weight. gregg: people change, in and out, up and down. jenna: at 17 when i got my license it was a little different. gregg: still you in that picture, huh. jenna: i need to update it. gregg: big breaks news from the world of entertainment. the latest from hollywood next. [ male announcer ] here's a word you should keep in mind. unbiased.

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