for watching. this is paul gigot, hope to see you next week. >> on fox news watch, both sides in the gun debate up the ante. and these reforms keep one person from murdering dozens of innocent children, isn't it worth fighting for? >> everything might have been stopped, but for the mental health system and criminal justice system and let's put those and school security on top of it. >> and they fire up rhetoric to push their agenda. >> that's where we've gotten in this country. >> the associated press takes a stand on illegal immigrants, eliminating the illegal.

and attacking critics from all sides, is it working? now they're back to calling out drudge, and a top obama advisor takes a shot at drudge and the washington press. >> jon: on the panel this week, writer and fox news contributor judy miller the. radio talk show host monica crowley. jim pinkerton the american conservative magazine and daily beast columnist kirsten powers. i'm jon scott. fox news watch is on right now. now. >> we've got to get past some of the rhetoric that gets perpetuated, that breaks down trust and is so over the top that it just shuts down on discussion. and it's important for all of us when we hear that kind of talk to say, hold on a second.

you know, if there are any folks who are out there right now who are gun owners and you've been hearing, osomeone's taking your guns, get the facts. >> we're saying it louder enforced gun laws are not doing it. put armed security in the schools. fix the mental health system, the media may not like it, they're screaming to the rafters for the gun ban agenda, i think the american public are seeing through it saying i don't want that imposed on me. >> jon: president obama in colorado trying to regain last momentum trying to get the gun laws passed and in response, wayne lapierre. and it's been pretty much one-sided in the media, case in point. >> a texas senator ted cruz who won't let the senate hold a democratic vote on gun safety. no democracy. using people using guns to get

even with officials, and that's where we are in this country second amendment remedies on officials. >> jon: news busters took a look at the clip and said that mathews is clearly unhinged trying to tie the tea party to ted cruz, the texas senator and suggesting how they were complicit in the murders of that texas prosecutor and his wife. >> right, i mean, look, this is a case where the media are, i think, leading the story and drag the obama administration back into it in a big way over the last week, and yet, even as the media are trying to drive the administration, with some success, they're confusing the story. two issues, gun restrictions probably dead at the level, state level. background checks and asa hutchinson the n.r.a., you

could consider background checks. and the media loves out-ride are stories like the congress womb from new york state who has a $10,000 insurance bond plan a total of eight co-sponsors going nowhere and 100% of talk raid diradio, this where the agenda is, on a vast data base on guns and clouds any minimal gun control. >> judy, we know you're in favor of more gun control. i want to read you this from campbell brown, the former cnn and anchor. and she wrote, the president's campaign against gun violence has produced a stale debate marked by lots of speeches with little achieved. a more creative chief executive would have used this to widen attention to the increasingly graphic violence so pervasive in television shows, movies and video games. what do you think about that position? anybody else talked about that? >> well, i think people are starting to talk about it. we've talked about it on this

show. joe klein talked about it in a slap at the administration this week when he mentioned the president's implementtation problem and giving a great speech, that he must have known from the beginning were doomed in the senate. i think if he had acted more quickly, if he had acted immediately when people were still very upset about what happened in connecticut, the school shooting, he might have stood some chance, but i think at this point it's just kind of cynical speech giving to suggest that he really cares about this. >> jon: the n.r.a. held a news conference on tuesday, what it calls its school shield program, the idea of putting armed guards in schools. you know, talking about enhanced mental health screening and so forth this this country and didn't get a lot of positive press, should it? >> i don't find the n.r.a.

calling for more guns a positive plan. that's the agenda and now we want more guns, more guns in the school and that of course is going to be their solution. if you watched the interview you showed at the beginning with wayne lapierre and megyn kelly did a great job. he doesn't come off as an honest broker to me. i don't know why he's supposed to be treated as somebody trying to solve the problem when in fact he just passed his agenda, fine, the agenda is to spite any kind of gun control at every turn, even when megyn pinned him down how 11 school children probably survived the shooting because the shooter didn't have as many-- didn't have the clips or magazines he would have liked to have. wayne lapierre never answered that question, he just gave talking points. >> jon: but one of the parents of one of the victims, mark mattioli, he actually applauded the n.r.a., called it a comprehensive program, but because, i guess, he isn't

touting the line that most in the press seem to like, this story didn't get much attention. >> did not get much coverage this week at all and maybe say that the messenger is not the best, but the message is a legitimate point and we should have the discussion and the press refuses to cover the other side or covers it at the bare minimum. and i find that the press covers, yes, the president's gun control agenda is dead in the congress. why is that? the media has been almost solely focused on the n.r.a., republicans, and a possible filibuster in the senate over gun control. biggest obstacles is democrats. for for reelection with big red states and gun cultures in the state and neither harry reid nor barack obama want to fight that battle. and right now there's a rift between the far left and pro second amendment democrats and that's not being covered. >> jon: coming up on news

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civil or criminal law septemb except in direct quotes essential illegal only to refer to an illegal action. entering a country illegally or without legal permission. this is the a-p style book not only, but used all over the world. >> first of all, now we know why jay leno is no longer going to be on nbc. >> and they've changed the word schizophrenia and islamist as well. and it will have repercussions and i'm with janet napolitano, if they're an immigrant illegally in the country, they're illegal immigrant. and once she gets a copy of the style book, white house will correct her, get with the

program. >> jon: the ap says they're trying to get rid of labels, we use them in news coverage. and some are more pejorative than others and this is one in which you're dealing with a very polarized heated debate and that they didn't want to appear to take sides. even though we can make fun of it, i think they have a point and it's defendable. >> jon: is it defendable? if they're here illegally, illegal immigrant? >> they're also undocumented, why not call undocumented rather than illegal. i guess we're our bias. i'm a pro, you know, immigration, almost open borders person probably, but the difference is, i'm an opinion journalist and the ap is supposed to be objective, i'm-- i'm a little on the fence about this, but i guess if they mean the exact same thing, why not go with the one that's not pejorative.

>> so are they against eliminating all labels or labels that don't suit a certain-- >> their agenda. why use two words when you could use 17 words in a story. the bigger serious point, they're not acting so much as journalists as advocates of a certain position, and i have a problem with the word police in any kind of context. this is the associated press, appointing themselves as the word police, saying you can't use this it doesn't quite fit our political agenda. and as far as islamist, one leaned on them and say you cannot use it for islamic fighters, extremists radicals which essentially leaves you with nothing. you have an intimidation campaign waged against the ap and they caved. >> jon: one was issued to me in journalism school. i was expected to, whatever was in the ap style book is

how i had to write my story. >> that was a long time ago. (laughter) no offense and a couple of decades later, 100,000 p.c. police to make sure that you do this as well. it's -- there's a degree of dishonestly here. for example, the law calls people who are not here legally, illegal aliens and maybe-- >> that's federal law and not he yet been changed. >> jon: it will be. >> and william la jeunesse has been reporting on fox all week, nobody has any idea who is coming across the border. it's crazy to be here sitting here with a fake law and fake terminology debate while for all intents and purposes the border is still open. >> jon: what does the white house think about matt druge? >> president obama's top advisor takes a shot at the political press pointing to the drudge report as a bad influence.

that's next on news watch.

>> politico ran this story on wednesday, obama's trash talkers, former white house men who regularly use twitter to attack critics of the administration. here is one from form senior advisor david plouffe to karl rove, how many times can you be wrong until credibility wanes. >> and press corps salivating over rand paul cpac performance his extremes views in a g.o.p. primary would be best thing for democrats, just ask myth. and window into an internal frustrations of an administration and the

arguments pete make on the side. so it's not surprising that the people coming out of the white house are skeptical of washington, congress and the media. >> jon: jim, what do you think. >> as i mentioned on the show, richard rushfield from los angeles, the power of twitter mostly in a negative sense. mostly people don't go to twitter to be positive, go to twitter to slam and often can do it in secret, but these people are doing it in public with no anonymity. i think it's full of implications for the way this is handled. the twitter is the front page of everybody's political life. >> jon: the lovet quote. >> the internal administration and the arguments people make on the inside. what does it say about the mindset in this white house? >> i can't begin to understand a white house who is unhappy with this press coverage.

when spirospiro agnew called us nattering nay-bobs and he didn't attach it to one and say you're a nattering nay-bob, but that's okay. on personal reporters, that's fine and reflects a sad state of affair with the white house and relationship with the press. >> jon: they d doth protest too much? >> and where were the women, eight angry men, white men, and normally has the media all frothed and upset. i can only imagine if that was mitt romney. i've found when i'm on twitter a lot, when i see some of the things these guys say, it's beneath the office of the president and these are people even when they leave the white house, they're so closely aligned with the president there's an expectation they're going to behave--

when they speak, they're speaking on behalf of obama and i find it's really beneath the office. >> jon: let's move on to this, white house senior advisor dan pfeiffer commented about the drudge report, the website, and its influence over the news cycle. listen. >> there's a pavolvian response from, you know, some media outlets. why are you asking me about this? well, drudge. >> in some cases-- >> what do you say that. >> ask them to repeat it it and say it out loud and think about it. you know, and everyone's a little embarrassed about it, you know, my editor is on me about this. >> jon: so, monica, the white house has a problem with the drudge report. >> fancy that. just imagine that. look, the pesky free press. this white house has constantly complained about outlets that they don't feel covers them fairly. everyone white house has a problem with the press at some point or another, the

difference is is this particular white house calls them out by name. so this week it was the drudge report. in the past the white house has waged a war on this network, on fox news, waged war on talk radio, called out individual reporters by name, to smear them in the press or question their coverage and it's all by way of trying to delegitimize whole networks or whole institutions so somehow you're shamed if you're going to the drudge report or tuning into fox news. >> jon: and a person grew up in democratic politics agrees with you. >> i think what you just said is egregious and take it another step what they're doing here. they're actually telling reporters where they're allowed to get their information. they did this in the war on fox news. they said cnn you're leg legitimate and we don't want you listening to fox news and jake tapper stood up, who are you to tell us. >> and coming up next, a

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>>. >> jon: remember this awful scene last july. 12 people killed, 70 injured when james holmes allegedly released a hail of bullets on an audience watching a movie. he faces the death penalty in that attack. the story has received a good deal of media attention. jonna winter faces jail time for doing her job.

winter broke an exclusive story just a few days after the attack revealing that prior to the shooting, holmes had sent a notebook to a psychiatrist containing illustrations of a massacre and was full of details of how he was going to kill people. winter's story cited unnamed law enforcement sources and they say they violated their client's right to a fair trial and demanded she reveal her sources. it is up to a judge whether she has to reveal her sources or go to jail. judy you went to jail for three months to protect sources, what do you think is going on? >> i think the last print journalist to protect sources and i hope that jonna doesn't have to make that choice. we can't do our job without

confidential sources or we will be repeat wagon the government tells us. people like her need to be able to work and everybody that cares about it should supported her. >> jon: holmes offered to plead guilty in this case? >> by the way, on friday the court released information that said that his psychiatrist said that she saw some danger and poses threat to a public so her story is accurate. >> jon: you have said many times information needs to be free? >> first amendment protects us. the shield law is hot item. it's astonishing to me, the american journalism and "new york times" have not mentioned this case at all because i guess if a reporter works far mainstream outlet.