martha: thanks for being with us today, everybody. big news today, important events happening. continued coverage throughout the day. gregg: "happening now" begins right now. jon: and we begin with this fox news alert, margaret thatcher, britain's longest-serving prime minister and the only woman to hold that post passed away at the age of 87. thatcher died early this morning after suffering a stroke. reaction pouring in now from around the world. we will have team coverage on the passing of margaret thatcher throughout the hour. jenna: and right now other brand new stories and breaking news we're following today. the latest provocative move from north korea that puts thousands of their own impoverished people out of work. we have a live report from the korean peninsula. jon: plus, congress back to work this week, but will they get anything done on immigration,

guns or reducing our enormous deficit? we'll go live to washington. jenna: and why new research on how we digest red meat may lead to a brand new treatment for heart disease. pretty good even on a monday morning, right? jon: i'm hungry. jenna: it's all "happening now." ♪ ♪ jenna: but first, back to our top story this hour, the passing of former british prime minister margaret thatcher. it's great to have you with us, everybody, i'm jenna lee. jon: and i'm jon scott. she was known as the iron lady and was a trailblazer in world politics. in her 11 years of prime minister, she virtually remade britain's economy and led a tireless march to shrink government. another former prime minister, tony blair, calling thatcher a, quote, towering political figure. she died early this morning after suffering a stroke. president obama issuing a statement expressing his condolences to the british people saying in part, quote: with the passing of baroness

margaret thatcher, the world has lost one of the great champions of freedom and liberty, and america has lost a true friend: jon: and former president george w. h releasing a statement calling thatcher a, quote, example -- great example, i should say, of strength and character and a great ally who strengthened the special relationship between the united kingdom and the united states. jenna: well, speaking of special relationships, margaret thatcher had a very strong relationship with our country, especially with one president in particular. that's former president ronald reagan. the two were, essentially, political partners in so many ways and worked together for many years. they first met face to face at a meeting in the house of commons in april in 1975 and became fast friends. in 1982 the u.s. was publicly neutral during the falklands war between britain and argentina, but behind the scenes the u.s. provided military and intelligence support.

in 1984 thatcher met reagan at camp david, and that's where she briefed him on the new soviet leader, gorbachev, saying he was a man they could, quote, work with. together they helped end the cold war. and in 1988 thatcher was the final foreign visitor to the white house during reagan's administration after being one of the first to visit after he took office. jon: margaret thatcher was known for her imposing personality and often worked her will in britain's political battles. here now, some of the best of margaret thatcher in her own words. >> i stand before you tonight in my red star chiffon evening gown -- [laughter] [applause] my face softly made up and my fair hair gently waved -- [laughter] the iron lady of the western

world. where there is discourse, may we bring harmony. where there is error, may we bring truth. where there is doubt, may we bring faith. and where there is we bring hope. we're all waiting with baited breath for that favored media catch phrase, the u-turn. i have only one thing to say. you turn if you want to. [laughter] [applause] the ladies are not turning. what the honorable member is saying is he would rather the poor were poorer provided the rich were less rich. that way you will never create the wealth for better social services as we have. and what a policy! yes, you would rather have the poor poorer provided the rich were less rich. that is a liberal policy! jon: margaret thatcher. tune in tonight, 10 p.m. eastern

time, for a very special edition of "on the record" with guest that van susteren, remembering the remarkable live of the british prime minister. jenna: meantime, brand new developments in the north korean crisis that we want to tell you about with the south now backtracking a bit. a top minister there says he misspoke when he told lawmakers the north is preparing for another nuclear test, but he added it doesn't change the fact that the north has a tunnel ready for a nuclear blast. this as north korea is reportedly suspending operations at a factory that's the last major symbol of cooperation with south korea. david piper is streaming live from seoul with more. david? >> reporter: hi, jenna. yes, this is quite a major move. we're talking about 50,000 north korean workers at this complex of many different factories, and the north korean official went there today, and he said they were all pulling out. they owe about $18 million in salary, yes, a lot of hard currency for north korea, so

they're really trying to show that they're angry about the u.s. and south korea. also today there is, there was as you said a suggestion that there could be another nuclear test. the unification minister came out, and he was caught on camera suggesting it. he said later he misspoke, but the defense myster came out quite quickly, and he said from what they can see, there is no preparations at the nuclear site at this time. but we do understand that south korea believes there may be a intermediate missile test by april 10th. they've tracked two missiles going out to the east coast, and we understand the south korean, japanese and the u.s. navies are out in the various seas and oceans around this area waiting to see if that happens, jenna. jenna: david piper live in seoul for us today. david, thank you. jon: historically, north korea times its nuke tests, missile launches and other provocations around its holidays, and there are some biggies coming up

including one of the cup's most important days -- one of the country's most important days which is now just one week away. april 15th, the day of the sun in north korea. it commemorates what would have been the 101st birthday of the country's late founders, kim ill song. another big holiday just ten days later when the country celebrates korea's people's army day, then on may 1st it's may day. we'll have much more on the north korea nuclear crisis coming up later in the hour when we talk live with former cia covert operations officer mike baker. jenna: well, congress is back in town this week and bracing for what could be a bruising budget battle. the president expected to unveil his proposal on wednesday which is already sparking some backlash from both sides just with the early reports. we're going to have a live report from capitol hill in just a moment. plus, airport control towers shutting down due to mandatory budget cuts. we'll go to the busiest airport in america and see how the cuts are actually affecting operations.

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jenna: right now congress is returning to washington for a pivotal week on capitol hill. at the top of the agenda, immigration and gun control. the president admitting passing any type of gun measure won't be easy, while arizona senator john mccain warns the gang of eight's immigration plan won't please everyone. so not setting expectations very high, are they? chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel's live in washington with more on this. mike, what's the latest when it comes to immigration reform? >> reporter: it's thought this is a critical week with congress returning after a two week recess. staff members of the so-called

gang of eight in the senate have been busy transforming an agreement on principles into actual legislative language. there was some hope a bill talk about introduced to members of the senate judiciary committee this week. timing of moving forward is not as precise. >> we're hoping to get this thing done in the next couple of weeks. it's the guest worker program. high-skill and low-skill labor. how can you access it in an affordable fashion when you can't find an american worker? >> i spoke to lindsey graham. we certainly have a deal between business and labor, they've each issued statements, they're with it. are there a few little kerfuffles, a few little issues we have to go through as we actually draft the legislation? yes. but we have drafted most of the bill already, and i am or very hopeful that the eight of us will be able to announce an agreement about specific legislation at the end of this week. >> reporter: we've heard a number of democrats suggesting they're anxious to get this done quickly while republicans want to get buy-in from other members

and don't want to rush it. jenna? jenna: we'll wait on the news on that. in the meantime, what about gun control? >> reporter: it's definitely going to be a heavy lift, although we have heard there's a possibility of movement on background checks. the latest polling has dropped off since jut after the newtown, connecticut, tragedy. still, the white house is going to sell it. >> on all of these issues, the majority of democrats are supporting it, and a tiny minority of republicans -- if any, republicans -- are supporting. these common sense measures are completely consistent with supporting the second amendment. where we are right now in the focus is on passing what the president wants to sign, a strong bipartisan bill with enforceable background checks. >> reporter: and you can expect the budget types on capitol hill to take a close look at president obama's blueprint due to arrive on wednesday. jenna? jenna: a busy week ahead, as always. mike, thank you. >> reporter: thank you. jon: for more on the tough battles that lay ahead on capitol hill, let's bring in

david drucker, senior editor of "roll call." david, thanks for being with us. >> good to be here, jon. jon: so the process prospects for some kind of gun control legislation coming out of washington this week, what do you think? >> well, i think we don't quite know yet. there's been movement over the past couple of months on background checks. that seems to be the most promising area where you could have bipartisan support, and what i mean by that is enough republicans in the house and senate that you'd actually be able to get a bill to the president. limiting the size of magazines for semiautomatic weapons and tougher gun control measures, beyond that, i don't think are going to happen. the prospects were never good. but you continue to hear about conservative republicans at least in the senate that are open to background checks, and i believe members of the house of representatives in the republican majority might be open to background checks depending on how this thing is structure. so it partially depends on what the democrats wants, what the obama administration is willing to settle for and how you can structure this legally and legislatively in a way that

doesn't turn off republicans. jon: well, and how much is the president willing to, you know, throw the authority of his office into this? i mean, we saw in his first term he wanted obamacare, he went to the mat for it, and he ultimately got it. how hard is he willing to work to get some kind of gun control legislation? >> well, i think he's willing to work pretty hard. i think he has worked pretty hard. the difference between this and obamacare is he controlled both chambers of congress during that fight. you had a democratic majority in the house and the senate. here you have a republican majority in the house that if it doesn't want to do something, it just won't do it. it's already shown that. and philosophically, republicans are very committed to the second amendment and keeping the availability of guns for law-abiding citizens. this is how they put it. but i just would point out philosophically republicans are committed to the principles of the second amendment which is why they're not going to simply change their mind on things even if there's polling that show that is the public is in favor of certain elements of increased gun control regulation.

jon: well, and as we've said many times, it is harry reid who, you know, has a high rating from the national rifle association and is blocking some of what the president wants to do in the senate or at least saying that it westbound wouldn. what about immigration reform? what are the prospects? >> i think they've good. i think it depends on the president's commitment to allowing republicans to take the time they need to feel good about the legislation. i mean, look, first we have to see a bill come out of the senate's gang of eight. there's also a separate bill being put together by the bipartisan house group, the house's own version, in a sense, of the gang of eight, and there are eight lawmakers in that group. and, you know, then we're going to -- then let's see what happens with the hearings and the committee mark-ups. and i really think, jon, i know the proponents of immigration reform feel like the time is right to strike, they feel like they never had a better opportunity to get this done, and that includes some form of legalized status for illegal immigrants currently living in the united states.

but i think if you're going to get a skeptical republican and can conservative base to sign on to this, you really do have to take it a little bit slow and deliberate. it doesn't mean delay or obfuscate, but you really shoaled do this deliberately because at the first sign of a big surprise at the sense that this thing isn't what the proponents are selling it as, you're going to see a republican exodus. they're going to head for the exits, and you won't get anything done. and so far the president's done a pretty decent job of not pushing too hard. i think it's important for democrats in the house and senate -- particularly the senate -- to not push too hard. and that goes to what i think we saw senator schumer say anything that clip a few seconds ago. he wasn't pushing too hard. he said i think we're close, but we need to iron out some details. i think that kind of attitude is what's required of democrats if they're going to get the republican support they need to get this done. jon: and, yeah, if they can get it done and if both sides are willing to accept the credit and maybe some of the blame, it

could happen, as you say. david drucker from "roll call," thanks. >> thanks, jon. jenna: well, a final farewell today to a legend in the movie business. we're live in chicago as friends and fans and family alike pay tribute to acclaimed film critic roger ebert today. plus, as north korea ratchets up the rhetoric amid fears it could launch another nuclear test soon, we're going to separate fact from fiction in what some are calling a growing crisis. that's next. [speaking in native tongue] [gunfire] it's monday.

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jon: right now chicago and the film community are bidding farewell to roger ebert.

the famed movie critic died last week after a long battle with cancer. funeral services now underway at holy name cathedral can. heather from our new york newsroom. >> reporter: good morning, jon, this is just steps from michigan avenue, and it is a beautiful, well known cathedral in the chicago area. we're taking a live look at the service celebrating the life of movie critic roger ebert. it began at 10 a.m. centralhis o friends and to fans, many of them lined up two hours before that service even started. a separate memorial, by the way, is scheduled later this week. of course, ebert was a famous figure not in chicago, but around the united states. he worked for the sun-times newspaper for more than 40 years before he partnered with chicago tribune partner gene siskel, they had a popular tv show that many of us remember for the thumb up/thumbs down way they reviewed films. ebert's favorite was vertigo, he told that to "the wall street

journal." well, a lot of fans are remembering him today as a man who would always take time to sit down and talk with them despite the fact that he was so famous. ebert died last thursday in chicago after a long battle with cancer. he was 70 years old. jon? jon: heather in our newsroom, he will be missed. thanks. ♪ ♪ >> we can't keep going through this endless cycle of rewarding their misbehavior, so we need to make a comprehensive agreement here, and i think we should do that sooner rather than later because they can make big bombs and do it well. >> the importance of this meeting today, i should say to the world, that japan and the united states stand shoulder to shoulder on the issue of north korea's nuclear weaponry. >> north korea also has a track record of proliferation that makes it unacceptable for them to be accepted as a nuclear power. >> we've applied the strongest sanctions ever on iran and north korea, nations that cannot be allowed to threaten the world with nuclear weapons. jenna: well, past presidents

over the last two decades taking what sounds like a tough stand against north korea and their nuclear ambitions. but the threat just seems to keep on growing, and with fears also increasing of yet another nuclear test by this nuclear nation and pumped-up rhetoric, one of the questions we're confronting is what does the u.s. need to do now? mike baker is a former cia covert operations officer. he's the president of diligence llc, a global intelligence and security firm. so, mike, it's not partisan, it doesn't come down to one administration or the other really. why can't we solve this north korea problem? >> well, i wish i had an answer because then i suspect i might be president. [laughter] but i think we could go all the way back further than bill clinton in those clips, and by the way, that package was very good, very concisely put, the fact that we've been dealing with this for decades. go further back than that, go further than ronald reagan, and we've been dealing with these same issues with north korea. now it's more serious.

people are saying, look, they do have this pattern of behavior whether it's kim jong un's father before him, it doesn't matter. they throw their teddy out of the cot, and we find a way to placate them just to keep them in a box so we don't have a confrontation. all those years we've been doing that, they've been busy working on their nuclear and ballistic launch capabilities. now they're well far down the road, they're feeling certainly emboldened, and there's other issues involved here too. once again, they're upset about joint u.s./south korea military exercises and sanctions, those are fairly traditional reasons. but we really have no options left. there's really very little in the sanctions world we can do at this point, and unless we somehow figure out a way to get china right in line with us and rather than acting in china's own self-interests, it's not going to happen, we're not going to get to that point where we can actually deal with the nuclearization program in north korea. jenna: because there seems to be, according to what you say, no good options really left when it comes to diplomacy whether

it's sanctions. maybe china, maybe we can get some other players involved, but do you feel based on your experience that some sort of conflict is coming? >> well, i mean, i think we have to assume it may be. i mean, that's -- you know, the problem we've got is that we don't have anything approaching decent intelligence on either kim jong un, the new leader, the grandson of the founder, or importantly, his relationship with the senior north korean hill military leadership. our human intelligence is lacking, there's no other way to put it. and without that, without a clear understanding of what that relationship is between the leader and the north korean military leadership, we are making or trying to make strategic decisions, you know, without, you know, much understanding as to where this is going. we also don't really understand china's game at this point in all of this. and, again, they're the only ones who can exert sufficient leverage to really deal with

this problem. jenna: some might be surprised to hear that our intelligence isn't very good when it comes to north korea as so many of us have been impressed by what the cia is capable of doing, and i know you had a long career in the cia as well. so is there any opportunity to increase, improve our intelligence? how do we go about the next several days even to better understand the moves of north korea so then we can understand how we should react? >> right. well, that's a great question. but with, you know, the answer is unsatisfying. developing good intelligence, developing, you know, accurate and credible sources of intelligence, human sources, that takes a long time. that takes a lot of work. and so it's not something you can say, oh, we're lacking here, so because we've got this tension building, we've got to do something quickly in that regard. we've got other forms of intelligence, no doubt about that, but we don't have those sources sitting inside of meetings in pyongyang who can report and say this is what he was thinking when he said this. and that's what we're looking.

and we're not going to make that up in the course of a couple of weeks while we're trying to deal with this immediate crisis. jenna: instead of being reactive to the news we might get, how might we be proactive in insuring we continue to send a strong region about what we want from the region and what lines not to cross? >> right. well, part of the problem is what you just said. continue to send a strong message. i don't think we have been. part of our problem, and, you know, is -- and this will sound a little bit partisan, no doubt -- but i think we haven't been sending consistent messages whether it's in north korea or elsewhere. it's been inconsistent. now we've got a new foreign policy and defense department leadership, so naturally, kim jong un and his leadership is thinking maybe they can test this. right now we need, we need absolute consistent, strong messaging, and, you know, and we need a nation, the u.s., that's willing to take the lead in situations like this. i'm worried that sometimes this administration, this current administration here in the u.s. isn't comfortable with the idea

that the u.s. should be at the top of the heap in terms of doing that. frankly, if the administration isn't willing to do that, i think they ought to get out of the way and let's have someone lead who can. but you're dealing with a tantrum, and anybody with children understands. you've got three options. either hug it out and give them more love, you ignore it, or you punish or threaten them. i think at this point we can't ignore them because of the nuclear concerns. we can't hug 'em out and love 'em because that's not going to go anywhere. i think we have to look, be more threatening, more punishing, and to that degree the messaging has to be consistent. jenna: that gives us a good jumping-off point for our next segment, mike, and we always look forward to having you. thank you so much for the time today, as always. >> sure. thank you. jon: a fight over freedom of the press, a foxnews.com reporter faces possible jail time for refusing to reveal her source in her coverage of the colorado movie theater massacre. is this fair? our legal panel weighs in.

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jon: back now to our top story. the world remembering england's iron lady, former

prime minister margaret thatcher. she died peacefully this morning after suffering a stroke. mrs. thatcher was 87. sky news reporter alistair bunkle is live outside thatcher's home in london. >> reporter: well, the latest news we are hearing and it hasn't yet been confirmed yet officially by members of her family is that margaret thatcher, baroness thatcher as she was in her last years died in fact at the ritz hotel in central london. it is understood she was there recovering from an operation she had a couple months ago. she had been allowed to stay there free of charge as a guest of the owners. as i said, it has not been confirmed but understood she might have died in the ritz one of her favorite hotels. nonetheless this is the house where she lived in central london, belgravia, one of the most exclusive parts of london and most exclusive areas of world. this is focal point people

leaving flowers and people coming every couple minutes to pay their respects and of course the world media is here as well. british media, if not outnumbered by numbers of media around the world reacting to this news. jon: what is the mood in london right now? >> reporter: well, i think the for the most part the reaction to the death has been of respectful tribute but of course lady thatcher was a politician who divide ad lot of this country. some people expressed their distaste over her policies but most people are recognizing the fact she was a very solid leader. she turned the country around for better or for worse. she brought in a wave of reforms during her time. she completely revolutionized if you like the public sector. she privatized a lot of the main industry in this country. she had a long-running dispute with the miners.

they went on a year-long strike which she eventually defeated they. politicians from every side of the divide while recognizing particularly if they weren't part of the conservative part or indeed not part of the conservative party now they might have disagreed with some of her policies most people, not all, but most people are saying she was a leader who very much had a lot going for her in terms of her values and her way of approaching things. jon: alistair bunkle, live from london. thank you. >> from london back here at home the obama administration is now delaying the closing of nearly 150 airport control towers until sometime in june. the automatic cuts were supposed to begin this week and this comes as one powerful trade group sues claiming furloughs could drastically affect air travel nationwide. mike tobin is at o'hare international airport, one of the busiest in the world. mike? >> reporter: well, jenna the page of the furloughs, the pain of the sequester would

start here in line for tsa because the tsa agents are in line for furloughs. that means getting your shoes off and getting through security would take longer. as you said the faa announced 149 control towers across the nation, mostly at small airports are in line to be cut with the sequester. fewer people on the job separating airplanes, means more airplanes get stuck on the tarmac. >> they will sit on the ground and that's effectively exactly what will happen. the airplanes will be delayed at their origin airport and origination airport with an average delay of 50 minutes. up to 132 minutes. >> reporter: here at o'hare the budget cuts target the north tower. without that tower controllers can not get unobstructed view of runway 27 right because of a row of hang fwars. so that entire runway has to be shut down depending on conditions. o'hare goes from capacity of landing 114 planes an hour

to landing 72. experienced travelers know the ripple effect from o'hare. means people get stuck in the terminal from lax all the way to laguardia. the only good news the cuts were expected to go into effect in january. now they are delayed until june. jenna: how are the decisions made where the cuts happen? >> reporter: faa analysts tell us these are politically chosen. these are hand picked. robert mark a commercial pilot and industry analyst. he tells us this president hasn't been friendly to aviation from the get-go. these particular cuts he believes were chosen to inconvenience the traveling public and turn up the heat on the opposition. jenna. jenna: mike tobin live at o'hare. thank you. jon: later this week a judge is expected to decide whether foxnews.com reporter jana winter will be called to testify and potentially go to jail for refusing to reveal her source for an exclusive story in the aftermath of last summer's

movie theater massacre in colorado. in the days after james holmes allegedly killed 12 people inside that aurora theater, jana learned police recovered a notebook holmes sent to a psychiatrist. she investigated the tip and published the story. but holmes's defense attorneys say her source violated a gag order and they want to know who it is. talk about it with dan shore, former prosecutor and associate managing director at krol. esther pan niche is a criminal defense attorney. esther, there is shield law in colorado as you know that protects reporters from revealing their sources but one of the means by which the shield can be dropped is if the information that is desired by the complaining side outweighs somehow the public's interest in knowing the information. how can the argument be made this information, you know, namely the source, the identity of the source is so

critical to holmes defense team? >> well, i suppose they would say that the breach of this gag order has led to an inability to get a fair trial of james holmes. i would disagree with that analysis because first of all, this is a incredibly highly publicized case. the fact itself he mowed down 12 people in a movie theater certainly outweighs the fact that he sent a notebook to a psychiatrist. so i'm not sure that the need, that her source needs to be revealed for that bit of information and frankly, i think information actually helps the defense. it shows that he has a history of some type of mental health treatment. so i'm not sure why the defense is going after this particular reporter for this particular leak when there's been so much more prejudicial information that came out just to the nature of the immediate reporting prior to any bag order being issued by the court.

-- gag order. jon: there is the fact, dan, that his defense team offered a guilty plea in this case. not as though they are saying there are questions what he is charged with. >> right. and this shield law says the defense has to raise a substantial issue that outweighs the first amendment concerns of the reporter and the public and it is really hard to see that here. i believe what's happening in a death penalty case you will see defense attorneys try to raise any issue they can, anything later they can bring on appeal or at the penalty phase show that there shouldn't be the death penalty. that is what this case is about, not guilt or innocence. they will throw every issue out there and hope something sticks. it is a very weak issue. there would a terrible injustice because we have first amendment violation because of up is an unimportant -- such an unimportant issue for the defense here. jon: they're talking about lawyers trying to protect a

journalist here. but in your view what does the public have to lose if janna were forced to reveal her source? >> not so much in this particular case what would happen, it is precedent that it sets for anybody who has to report something that they see that is improper the only way they can do it sometimes through a reporter, if they believe, hypothetically that the police are corrupt or there is a corrupt politician, they may not be able to go to, if they're going to report on the police are they going to the police to report them? no. sometimes the only route is through journalists and that their duty is to provide information to the public so the public can be helped. so if you take that away from a journalist her ability to protect her source, you are going to get a lot you fewer people coming forward to report problems that really should be addressed by journalists. jon: how much of this, dan, is just going to sort of hinge on the judge?

i mean the judge has to decide, right, about the overriding public interest here and whether it outweighs her ability to protect her source? >> right. as we said colorado is one of many states that has a shield law to protect reporters. the judge will have to make a finding whether or not this is a substantial issue for the defense and whether it outweighs the first amendment concerns. i believe the defense is probably going to lose on both of those counts. it is not a substantial issue and doesn't outweigh the first amendment concerns. it is in the hands of a judge and we'll wait to see how the judge rules. jon: again, jana did a great bit of reporting to bring this information out about the existence of this notebook in the early days after the theater shooting and we're going to continue to follow her case as she appears before the judge this week. thanks very much. esther, dan. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. jenna: deadly violence escalating as christians and muslims clash in egypt. what president morsi is

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jon: new next hour, hundreds of special-ops agents sign a letter calling for a congressional investigation on the benghazi terror attack. we're live with that story, plus, our own bret baier weighs in. the dismal jobs numbers and why the media seem to be keeping so quiet about the report. our "news watch" panel takes a look. plus millions of americans in the eye of some very severe storms, tornados, a real possibility. we're live at the extreme weather center. jenna: well, right now the death toll rising in clashes between muslims and christians in egypt. the senior egyptian health ministry official says a second person is dead. about 90 others injured. the violence igniting outside a cathedral in cairo after a funeral for 4:00 christians who were killed in sectarian violence over

the weekend. president there, president mohammed morsi condemning the clash. he says he considers any attack on a cathedral and christians an attack against him personally. we'll keep you updated. jon: the manatees are dying in record numbers in florida. a toxic red algae bloom hitting the endangered species especially hard this year and a local wildlife research institute fears the situation will only get worse. phil keating is live from st. petersburg, florida, with that. phil? >> reporter: jon, the beloved manatee population is already endangered at the state level and the federal level. so the sea mohammad mamdouhs are already a -- mammals are a fragile population to begin with. a record 5% of the population in florida has been eliminated. the cause of it all is the red algae bloom that is a lot larger this year than in years previously. the toxin gets released into

the seagrass and that is con assumed by sealife. it is deadly for manatees and fish. also poisonous for humans who breathe it in or consume contaminated shellfish. florida fish and wild live bile gift responding to floating manatees, half dead or already dead. at the state's pathology laboratoritory they have performed on a steady stream of autopsies. killer of 250 manatees so far this year is the red tide. >> when the cell blooms to large amounts it release as chemical in the water, toxin in the water. manatees take that either through inhaling some of it at the surface of the water or when they ingest the toxin off the seagrass. it gets into the system and pretty much paralyzes them to the point where they drown. >> reporter: pretty sad. allowerry zoo in tampa, they operate a manatee hospital a dozen manatees have been evidence is a. typically they recover

pretty fast after volunteers do two hours shifts and holding them in the water and holding them up. the red tide according to biologists is starting to wayne. they expect many more manatees to turn up dead because of the persistent toxin in the gulf of mexico, jon. jon: wow, 250 dead already. dan, thanks very much. jenna: we've all heard that red meat increases the risk for heart disease. now information on why, why that juicy steak may be a problem and it has nothing to do the with fat, cholesterol or the delicious taste we made add. the doctor is in on this brand new study, next.

jenna: brand new study on heart disease and red meat and it finds the fat and cholesterol in a steak or hamburger may not be what does the real damage. according to these researchers there may be

bacteria in our stomach that's a problem. if we treat that we may be able to more easily treat heart disease. joining us dr. kevin campbell, practicing cardiologist and assistant professor of medicine at the university of north carolina. doc, what is up with the bacteria? why could this be causing us a problem? >> what we know red meat contains a substance, by the way it is also in energy drinks and other dietary supplements. this carnatne is broken down in our gut by bacteria that turn it into something called tmao which is a very bad actor. this chemical causes our bad cholesterol to become even maner and form more plaques and cause blockages in the heart. jenna: researches say if we develop a antibiotic that treats the bacteria in our stomach and gets rid of it we might have less of the bad stuff. what do you think about that? >> i think that is a very novel approach to treating coronary disease or

cardiovascular disease and it makes good sense. research has shown if you are a vegetarian or on the mediterranean diet where you eat fish and beans, over about a year, you would no longer have the bacteria that make that bad metabolite i think on going on diets without meat or sterilizing the gut with antibiotics so the bacteria don't exist we may be able to improve our risk of cardiovascular at that point. jenna: the bacteria has a certain ring to it. i may or may not have had a big rare hamburger this weekend. this is important question. what does it say about red meat consumption? we don't want to give the impression everyone can go out and eat red meat if we get rid of the bacteria? what does it tell us what red meat does to our system? >> i think we've known for a long time. everything in moderation. yes, red meat and cholesterol will have fats that contribute to the development of disease and

now we know they have the carnatine to make a toxic substance that makes blockages form. if you eat things every once in a while, everything in moderation and combine better diet and exercise we'll do very well. i do see a day, i'm sorry. jenna: please, go ahead. i don't want to miss that very important point, go ahead. >> i see a day where your cardiologist may write a prescription for antibiotic and help prevent disease that way. that is very, very interesting as we try to prevent bad things from happening to people. jenna: a small study that caught our attention as meat eaters as we are here on "happening now", right, jon? jon: yes. jenna: a caution for our viewers that supplement is in a lot of things, as you said, doc. researchers are paying close to that and questions about how healthy it is. always good to see you, dr. campbell. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. you guys have a great day. jenna: you too, sir. jon: coming up on lunchtime. jenna: almost noon here on the east coast. jon: that's right. hey, the son-in-law of usama

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to get to the bottom of what really happened during the deadly terrorist attack in benghazi. this is a brand new hour of "happening now". i'm jon scott. jenna: i'm general la lee. it has been seven months since the chaotic attack when ambassador chris stevens and three others were murdered in benghazi. special operations people asking for a special committee to investigate saying quote, it is essential that a full accounting of events of september 11th, 2012, and that the american public be fully informed regarding this egregious terrorist attack on u.s. diplomatic personnel and the facilities. we owe that truth to the american people and the family of the fallen. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge live in washington with more. >> reporter: jenna, this letter first obtained by fox news is signed by more than 700 special operations vets urging congress to back the select committee tasked with a single mission to investigate the terrorist

attack and founder of special operations speaks tells fox why it still matters. >> this has been a slow rolled as we say in the air force. you know, if we wait long enough, maybe it will go away but, we owe the truth to the american people and particularly the families of the fallen. >> reporter: the letter includes 16 points of investigation from the well-documented warnings before the attack to the realtime decision making of president obama, secretary clinton and the defense department on the night of september 11th. the letter reads in part, quote, america always held to the notion that no american will be left behind and every effort will be made to respond when u.s. personnel are threatened. given our backgrounds we are concerned that this sent a very negative message to future military and diplomatic personnel. the letter also questions why the survivors were evacuated from the state department consulate and cia annex remain so silent six months after the attack, jenna. jenna: still so many questions unanswered at this point. catherine, thank you. jon: for more on this, let's

talk with bret baier. he is of course the anchor of "special report." does this change anything, bret? does this group of 700 former special operators have the clout to get congress to do something? >> well, jon, i mean it does bring attention to it. how much attention is really the question. speaker boehner convened the three senators who have been really pushing for this, senator john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte, as well as the various committees that are looking into benghazi and still looking into it to try to get together and get all of the investigations on the same page just a couple weeks ago and they are still resisting up on capitol hill the calls for a select committee and whether this changes that dynamic i think is yet to be seen. jon: there were concerns that, you know, after the cole bombing there was not much of a response from the

united states. that after the embassy bombings in kenya and tanzania, there was not much of a response from the united states is that, is there the feeling the lack of response in this case could bring on trouble down the road? >> yes and there's a real frustration in a lot of the intelligence community, a lot of the military community that the benghazi attack has not seen anyone pay a price yet. for all of the talk they were going to see justice served and they were going to go after all of these people, that just hasn't happened. in fact, the people who have been suspected, we haven't really talked to and that, who have been held in different parts of the world, different countries, the u.s., as far as we know did not have access to and some were let go. so there's a frustration that has built up over time. catherine mentioned not

being able to have access to any of the state department employees or cia employees who were on the ground. they're not being forthcoming. we heard from senator graham on "special report" a couple weeks ago that, you know, they have been told not to speak out. they're fearful. and we're trying to track them down. we're trying to talk to them. the list of questions here that these former military folks have is very impressive and they're very specific and if these questions were answered in committee hearings we could really get to the bottom of some of the heart of the matter that has yet to be brought to the surface. jon: well, if this letter does change anything, i'm sure we'll be checking back with you as this investigation and perhaps more congressional hearings proceeds. just wanted to get your thoughts very quickly an the passing of the woman who became known as "the iron lady", margaret thatcher? >> what an iconic figure in

history and the relationship between margaret thatcher and ronald reagan isen talked about but margaret thatcher herself in economic turmoil in the u.k., by the policies that she advocated and by, really her stiff, the way that she presented herself, she was the daughter of a grocer and she was firm in what she believed and she went on to be really one of the most powerful prime ministers great britain has ever seen and so today we reflect on other life. i was just talking to brit hume about some of the stories he has of covering george h.w. bush and margaret thatcher and we'll get into some of those on "special report" tonight. jon: so interesting, she became known as "the iron lady" because the soviets gave her that nickname. it was supposed to be

pejorative and she adopted it. she embraced it. >> that's right. jon: interesting. bret baier, thank you. remember you can catch bret each week night 6:00 p.m. eastern for all the latest political developments. he anchors "special report" right here on fox news channel. jenna: in other news today the son-in-law of usama bin laden is expected to be back in a new york city court in a few hours just steps away from ground zero. his name? suleiman abu ghaith. he pleaded not guilty last month in a conspiracy to kill americans. the trial of the high-profile suspect is, sparking a lot of controversy because he is being tried in civilian court rather than in a military tribunal in gitmo. senior correspondent eric shawn is in the courthouse outside lower manhattan with more. eric. >> reporter: jenna there was a lot of outrage a few years ago when the administration planned to try the accused mastermind of 9/11, khalid sheikh mohammed right here in the courthouse near ground zero.

community pressure forced the administration to can sell that plan as they're trying him in gitmo. 2 1/2 hours from now another accused high level al qaeda terrorist will be in this courthouse for a pretrial hearing. as you said, suleiman abu ghaith. he is usama bin laden's son-in-law. he is 47 years old. he married bin laden's daughter, fatima. he is charged with conspiracy to kill americans with his alleged involvement with al qaeda for many years. this afternoon there is a pretrial conference, that is routine. a legal proceeding will go over paperwork and the schedule and the like. abu ghaith is best known for a pokes spokesman for al qaeda in the videos for his father-in-law. after 9/11 he warned muslims to not get on airplanes because he said there will be quote, storms that will not sears. he was living in jordan before being nabbed by the fbi. they think gitmo is the appropriate venue, a military tribunal for

accused terrorists that want to kill us. others say a federal civilian courtroom is fine. one of them is jim riches. a retired deputy fire chief of the new york city fire department. his firefighter son also named jim was killed on 9/11. he told us they should try the suspects as soon as possible. >> the families here are waiting for justice, craving for justice. we have plenty of families in my group want to go see this trial and we'll march up to manhattan and watch him face the penalty after bragging how he was so proud that he killed those 3,000 innocent americans. >> reporter: khalid sheikh mohammed's trial is still off perhaps sometime next year. as for abu ghaith's, he will have the pretrial hearing today as we start to set some schedules when his trial could start. by the way he faces life in prison. khalid sheikh mohammed faces the potential death penalty. jenna, back to you. jenna: more on both stories as we get them. eric, thank you very much. jon: just when you thought

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we got news of the passing of margaret thatcher at the age of 87. overnight she suffered from a stroke. reaction has been strong and positive. thatch attach was the longest serving u.k. prime minister of the 20th century. at least one analyst called her the leading political figure in post-war history here in the u.k. here at home, thatcher stood up to the unions and was against the big of the go and, on the foreign policy front, she stuck to nothing less than against the soviet union and along the way reshaping her conservative party. gaining foes absolutely but more admirers. prime minister tony blair called her a towering political figure. former russian leader, mikhail gosh chef called her a leading. >> today is truly sad day for our country, which lost a great prime minister, a great leader a great britain.

as our first woman prime minister margaret thatcher succeeded against all the odds and the real thing about margaret thatcher is that she didn't just lead our country. she saved our country. >> reporter: saved the u.k. but helped a relationship between the u.k. and the u.s. that relationship remembered by many today. president obama said that america has lost a good friend. former president george h.w. bush said she was the staunchest the ally u.s. has ever known probably not stronger than during the presidency of the ronald reagan. they were called political soul brothers both in efforts to defeat communism during the cold war and in economic matters, both thatcher and reagan definitely singing from the same economic playbook. a ceremonial funeral with full military honors are planned at st. paul's cathedral in the coming days. that has been called for by the queen. and she herself through

buckingham palace expressed sadness for the loss of margaret thatcher. jon? jon: what an incredible woman and an amazing story. greg palkot in london. jenna: in addition to being one of the world's most influential leaders margaret thatcher was a champion of free market economics and her many reforms helped rep solutionize britain's fading economy and were quite controversial and still remain to be. stuart varney is the host of "varney & company" on the fox business network. appropriate brit to talk about her. >> born and raised in england, that's true. jon:. jenna: you just said to me as we were watching greg palkot's report, i loved her. >> yes i did, i really did because she really turn around britain both financially and morally. let me just go back to the 1970s, before she became prime minister in 1979. in england at that tim, virtually all of heavy industry was owned and run by the government. you name it. coal, iron, steel production, almost all transportation, airlines, auto production, power supply, water supply.

it was, railways. almost all of it was ownn by th. it was a socialist economy. and it was in terminal decline. at the time when she became prime minister or shortly before, britain was on a three-day working week because of strikes in the electricity and power supply business. she came into power and reversed course. totally. she revitalized the economy and the morality of great britain. she privatized steel industry, railroads. she sold them off. she actually produced a whopping great big surplus for the government because she was selling off all of these industries, reigniting capitalism, free enterprise, free markets and gave as a generation of prosperity. jenna: her economic policies are often referred to as thatcherism. >> yeah. jenna: we found some sound. you mentioned what it was like before she took office. we have her interview on taxes which seemed very appropriate for some of the debate going on in our country.

let's take a listen to this. >> wherever i go i hear enormous resentment about the amount which people are paying out of their own pay packet in tax. this goes right across the income ranges. socialism started by saying it was going to tax the rich. very rapidly it was taxing the middle income groups. now it is taxing people quite highly with incomes way below of a ran. jenna: that interview she also said socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. they always run out of other people's money. >> that was her most famous quote. soon -- the trouble with socialism, is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money. she said that in the house of common to wild applause from her supporters and deathly silence from the left. jenna: what was her legacy because we continue to see increased government involvement not only in europe and also here at home as a way some believe to solve our economic problems? so as we take a look and reflect on her life what is

really the lesson that we take away from her economic policies? >> the legacy of ronald reagan and margaret thatcher was a dynamic capitalist, market-oriented society that was dynamic and robust. i think those days are gone. we've turned full circle. we're now looking to government as the engine of growth. both in britain and not so much in britain but certainly in the united states. so we turned full circle. the thatcher revolution, the reagan-thatcher revolution is no more. that is a personal opinion. that is where i think we are now. jenna: does that surprise you? >> yes. jenna: it wasn't that long ago she left office and made such a transformation whether you agree with it or not she certainly transformed an economy. how quickly things have come around. what does that tell you where the global economy is really at? >> it tells me a great deal i thought america's basic culture was vigorous, dynamic, explosive growth, prosperity spread around and moving forward. i must have been wrong because i don't think that's where we are now.

i think there has been a shift in america's financial culture. jenna: why? >> i think president obama has a lot to do with it. i think the crash of 2008 has a great deal to do with it and public anger against capitalism which was presumed to be the problem here with 08. and i think that was a mistake. i think we turned left, that is my opinion, jenna. jenna: it is your opinion. >> i think it is a mistake. jenna: real quickly before we go because a lot of our viewers might have seen the movie, margaret thatcher, i want you to set the record straight. stu said if you're thinking about the movie when thinking about the news today, not a good idea. >> if you go into that movie knowing nothing about margaret thatcher, you would come out thinking she was simply a disillusioned and delusional lady who was forgetting things. it ignored the wonderful things and contributions she made to all of us in the western world. jenna: good reminder for us. >> that is my opinion. jenna: as well as economic policy. stu, great to have your

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jon: right now some new developments to tell you about in a search-and-rescue operation after two children were buried by a it did wall collapse. header they are nauert is live with more.

>> jon this is an update for a sad story we first told you about over the weekend. bodies of a two young children were found in the early morning hours in a pit of construction site in "lincoln" county. the children were playing yesterday afternoon when a it did wall collapsed on them. rescue workers using shovels everynight to dig and dig in hopes of finding two children alive but sadly getting confirmmation today that that was not the case. the children have been identified as 7-year-old james called well-and 6-year-old chloe arwood. the father of one of those children was working at the site yesterday afternoon at the time the accident occurred. he apparently witnessed this, witnessed the walls collapse and he called 911. rescue workers arrived at the scene within minutes. sheriff's detectives tell us they are now investigating what caused that dirt wall to collapse. so a story here for so many parents to be aware of, jon? jon: you have to feel awful

for that father who saw all of this. heather, thanks very much. >> reporter: thank you so much. >> general martin dempsey, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff wrapping up a trip to afghanistan saying the taliban will be a long-term threat. general dempsey telling the associated press he believes the tall pan will be fighting for control of some regions in afghanistan for years to come. he also went on to say after international forces complete their withdrawal at the end of next year as is planned, the afghan government will need to reach some sort of a political accommodation with the taliban. joining us on set, she became the first u.s. woman in come pat aviation. >> 225 in afghanistan. jenna: want to get that on the record, colonel, that is very important. >> thank you, jenna. jenna: before we get to afghanistan, i love to hear your opinion what is going on there, why did you choose the career you chose. >> mostly told me because

they told me i couldn't be a fighter pilot. at time it was against the law for women to be fighters when i went to the air force academy. i thought that was ridiculous. i got very motivated to become a fighter pilot pause they told me i couldn't. jenna: looking back on your career how do you feel? >> i had some extraordinary opportunities to serve where many women before didn't get to serve and fly and command in combat. there is no greater privilege. so i'm very grateful for those who went before me, the pioneers went before me and opportunities that i had and 26 years in the uniform. jenna: just so our viewers know, we were showing pictures of you, that is your plane. >> yeah. 30 millimeter gun on it and do close air support. single seat attack aircraft. we know up when americans are on the ground underfire needing help with close proximity to civilians or enemy and friendlies very close. very strategic circumstances and deliver fire power to save their lives. jenna: that is incredible technology. one of the arguments have for having concern about our

withdrawal in afghanistan because the afghanistan forces, local forces do not have that type of support. >> right. jenna: looking back at your time in afghanistan, and at a time in this country where there seems to be some conflicting emotions about our time spent there, what do you think about the mission? >> well, we got to remember that afghanistan is in a very strategic location. we have deeply nuclear capable divided pakistan to the east. we have the most sophisticated state sponsor of terror to the west who is trying to get a nuclear weapon. even though we're in a 12th year it is in our national interest to make sure afghanistan is stable and secure and doesn't become a failed state. when we transition out of american forces it is up to the afghan government and afghan military security forces to make sure they're providing for their people, that they deal with the corruption and provide safety and security for their citizens. the taliban will be there. this is a very complex situation. the idea is to get it more like a police action instead of a full-blown counterinsurgency. jenna: do you believe now

that the taliban on the ground pose the same threat that they did at one time to the united states? >> well, it has been waxing and waning but i will say one. biggest challenges they have a safe haven in pakistan and that is one of the things that has to be addressed. so we have done extraordinary things. we spent a lot of blood and treasure. many have sacrificed their lives in order to provide the opportunity for the afghan people to secure and have a stable force for their own people. jenna: pakistan is a separate issue almost completely although very much linked to afghanistan. >> right. jenna: and our national security. >> right. jenna: one of the programs we looked at in pakistan is the drone program. >> right. jenna: you have some experience with this type of program, not necessarily in pakistan. >> right. jenna: but, through the military. that is different than the cia's program through pakistan. can you tell us what is the state of the drone program right now, how effective it is? >> sure. if we're talking about, there is terrorists individuals that are in high level positions that are planning and executing

operations or financing operations, there's a couple of questions because this gets all mixed up a lot in the media is. is it real for us to be targeting them i would argue yes. that is separate discussion. is it good policy for us to be targeting them? again i would argue yes if we're looking at a enemy targeting americans and american interests abroad. the question is if we're going to target them how will we do it? i would tell you from my military career running the targeting program in africa, having a remotely piloted vehicle overhead which we call a drone which is nothing like drone, makes it sounds like they're flying around targeting people. remotely targeted plane over head gives real time intelligence with very little collateral damage and aborted at last minute is very laborious process, that is a good weapon to choose as opposed to a missile or fighting aircraft or seals going in to minimize the threat to americans. jenna: real quick, what do you think about that program coming completely underneath the military umbrella?

there is still questions whether or not the pakistan will be run by the cia. >> right. jenna: that seems to be a point of contention whether the pentagon does the program or whether the cia does? >> well, the military program is involved in africa and yemen and other places. i personally believe the program in pakistan needs to roll under the same processes. it is very laborious and very detailed for to us get to the point where we're sure we postively identified a target and that we actually have permission to strike with very low collateral damage. we have a detailed process we've gone through. it is proven to the effective. i think cia program is time to move under the military. jenna: a little bit different than the movies and who has dealt with unmanned aerial vehicles better than drones. colonel, good to have you. look forward to having you back. >> thanks. jenna: jon? jon: extreme weather is on the way making april look like the middle of winter in some parts. we'll tell you where a major

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jenna: the murder troil of jodi arias is set to resume and she stands accused of killing her boyfriend. that is the first day of court since a very bizarre episode last week with a trial of full of bizarre episodes we might add. a judge kicked the woman off

the jury only to have the same woman show up to court again and now she is speaking out. adam housley is live in the west coast bureau with more. adam? >> reporter: jenna, day 42 of the jodi arias murder trial, as you mention there have been no normal days during this trial. last thursday which was the final court day of the week might have been the most odd day we've seen in court in any case in a very long time. the final defense witness did finish. we'll get to her in a second. i want to talk about this woman, also part of that day on thursday. juror number five you might remember was dismissed by the judge. the defense claimed this juror said something in a interview pros incorrect about the case or something about the prosecutor the we don't know exactly enough to where they asked for her to be dismissed. she was but she showed up in court on thursday, sitting there in the public area that anybody can go watch this trial was really shook things up in the courtroom. our reporter did catch up with her afterwards. here is what she had to say about being on this jury, take a listen. >> i took that case very

seriously, you know. because it is serious. you they somebody's life is at stake. and, she also took someone's life. so it's, you know, you have to be there 100%. >> reporter: again that is the now infamous juror number five talking about being on that jury at one point. she was kicked off last week. meantime the final defense witness on the same day last thursday in that courtroom, alice vial let, defense expert. she spent a number of days on the stand saying travis alexander was mental and physical abuser. they got to cross-exam inher. the defense rested the prosecution no time going absolutely aggressive at this witness. take a listen to this interaction. >> yes or no. my question are you talking, yes or no. >> mr. martinez, are you angry at me.

>> ma'am, is that relevant to you. is that important to you? >> ladies and gentlemen and please refrain from laughing in the courtroom. >> is that important to you, whether or not the prosecutor is angry with regard to your evaluation? does that make any difference to your evaluation whether or not the prosecutor is angry, yes or no? >> reporter: quite fireworks in the courtroom, jenna. in the last 20 minutes. juror number five showing up. the prosecutor going absolutely aggressive at the defense witness. what you didn't hear and what had just begun when court ended we're hear more momentarily when the court started up they were debating snow white. apparently the final defense witness gaven seminars insinuating snow white was abused. very odd to watch this court case knowing a juror was kicked out was there and seeing the prosecutor and defense star witness basically debating snow white and whether or not she was abused in a murder trial in arizona. jenna. jenna: we look forward seeing how that is relevant to the case over the next several hours. >> reporter: a lot of things

we look forward to seeing that are relevant. jenna: in closing arguments. sure it will be tied in. i'm sure of it. >> reporter: it will all come together, jenna, it always does. jenna: we have a little faith. adam, thank you. >> reporter: all right. jon: we told you friday about the lousy jobs report by the u.s. labor department but you wouldn't know it from watching the sunday talk shows where the dismal economic numbers received almost no attention. let's talk about the coverage, jim pinkerton contributing editor and writer for "american conservative" magazine. alan colmes is host of "alan colmes radio show" and author of how the liberals saved america. they are the "news watch" panel. news by definition is sort of the unusual. man bites dog is news. have we reached the point in this country where the lack of jobs and lack of economic progress just can't make news anymore? >> well, i think it is too important an issue to neglect. so i give "the new york times", common liberal

newspaper and reliable member of the msm, a credit for honest headline on saturday, quote, sharp drop in jobs growth soes concern. that strikes me as pretty good and speaks to aspects of the american people are when they think about 25% margin the country is going in the wrong direction, not the right track. and yet on the sunday shows, thanks to knoll shepherd at news busters, both cbs and abc, their sunday shows managed to completely neglect any of this news and talk about everything else but the economy. jon: why aren't they covering it, alan? >> i don't know. i wish i could, maybe jim thinks because they're liberal and don't want to talk about how bad it is but i'm not sure they cover it anymore when there was 188,000 jobs added any particular month. this is particular bad month in march but did it get less coverage or more coverage than any other typical month when we had a number of multi, 100,000 plus, almost

200,000 jobs month after month after month. i think people take it in their stride at this point. jon: jim referenced "the new york times" article and i wanted to read you a clip from that. they wrote, the closely-watched monthly jobs report was discouraging. the unemployment rate ticked down to 7.6% in march from 7.7% but for the wrong reason, because more people reported dropping out of the labor force, meaning they are neither looking not because more people were hired. the labor force participation rate has not been this low since 1979, a the a time when women were less likely to be working. you could have also said, jim, it was a time when jimmy carter was in office but, they didn't make that, they didn't make that point. >> good point, good point. look, this recovery has been by many measures the worst economic recovery in the last, since at least world war ii. that's a long time. and i mean the business insider has a chart called the scariest job growth

chart ever and it shows just sort of a flat line of economic recovery since, since 2009. so actually in terms of what alan was saying we have had four years of subpar job growth where after, we're allegedly in the fourth year of a recovery and unemployment is only a teen, tiny bit lower than it was when president obama took office that is pretty poor and a should be a big story. jon: alan, you know, there's a lot of coverage these days of gun control of gay marriage, north korea but can't you one overriding issue that would mean more to americans than any of those things is an economy that is finally on the right track and providing some good jobs? >> i would agree. in fact i think what you just mentioned, gun control, and, marriage equality are sexier issues let's say than the numbers of economy and jobs although jobs is probably the most important issue right now for some americans. but the other issues are the wedge issues which are much

more intriguing i think and make much better debate and people have very strong opinions one way or the other about them. so they tend to get more media coverage. jon: wish we could talk about it more. we will another time i'm sure. alan colmes, jim pinkerton, thank you. >> thank you. jenna: severe weather on the move, a very busy week ahead with everything from snow to tornados. meteorologist janice dean on who's in the path. also a big cleanup after a mud slide derails a train. how long will it take to get it back on track. with angie's list, i save time, money, and i avoid frustration.

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will not know when they reopen the tracks north of seattle. jon: now this fox extreme weather alert. tornados and dangerous storms threatening across the south and in the west people are bracing for blizzard conditions. some places could see the worst outbreak since last may. meteorologist janice dean live in the fox news extreme weather center. >> your beloved denver will be 66 tomorrow, 20 degrees with up to a foot of snow, if you can believe it. that is how powerful this storm is. jon: wow. >> let's take a look at it. not that organized but we're expecting the potential for severe weather. the worst of it will come tomorrow, into tomorrow night into wednesday. let's take a look. ahead of the storms we have thunderstorms erupting across the u.s. the big storms across the rockies, and continue to press eastward and with it we could see a threat for days of severe weather, including tornados, here is our today's threat for portions of colorado through kansas up towards nebraska. but tomorrow look at all

cities affected. millions of people from texas all the way up to illinois and then into wednesday, across the mississippi river valley from the gulf coast to the great lakes. so we're talking about hail, damaging winds and we could see a severe weather outlake -- outbreak including several long-lasting damaging tornados. we have the cold side of the storm. jenna was asking me, snow, snow, and tornados? yes, it is going to happen. we could see the potential for six to 12 inches, in some cases two feet of snowy would be record-breaking in some of these areas. a very dynamic system. one. main ingredients we need is a cold front, a potent one at that. as you can see, monday 66, tuesday in denver, 19 with blizzard conditions. we could easily get a foot of snow in this area. look at the cold air behind this system. 66 in denver. will drop like a rock. over 40 degrees in a matter of hours. 72 in kansas city. 76 in dallas. if we could end off on a

great note, here in the northeast it will finally feel like spring. the puffy coat can go into storage. look at d.c., 81, thursday, 88 on wednesday. 88! do not adjust your set. 76 by wednesday in new york. the looks like 71 for boston. you know it's april, jon and jenna, comes those topsy-turvy temperatures and the tornados potentially as well. jon: it has been a cold spring it this part of the country. >> we'll see some people wearing shorts and t-shirts and all sorts of weird stuff tomorrow. jenna: all sorts of weird things like shorts and t-shirts. jon: yeah! flip-flops even. janice dean. jenna: i love janice. just for the record. jon: put away the puffy coat. jenna: i don't know. i'm totally frustrated fashionwise. i think you need to read that line. you need to give this line, jon on the screen there. jon: road kill. jenna: give it the rest. jon: it's what for dinner. jenna: sound better when jon

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jon: montana has some tasty plans but you might not want to know where the meat came from. heather nauert live more. >> reporter: jon, listen to this one, lawmakers in the state of montana passing a bill to let people collect carcasses of animals accidentally killed on state's road and use the meat for food. it is the road "kill bill." it passed the senate last month and awaiting the governor's signature. there were nearly 2000 collisions between cars, trucks animals in the year, 2011. a lot of drivers get out of the car. they inspect what happened

after the accident. the meat looks good, why not take it home? there is republican sponsor named steve lavin. it is a small measure to help people out and not to waste food. a lot of family members of mine in the state of montana. they're sheep ranchers. they fundamentally believe in not wasting food. a big thing for breakfast on sunday morning. scrambled eggs and sheep brains. no joke. don't waste food. jon: a lot of protein. >> reporter: you're not buying it jon. jenna: he looks a little stunned. i'm not sure what to say. she got you, jon. stumped you. jon: yeah. remind me not to come over for breakfast. appreciate the information. >> reporter: not in my house, jon. jon: thanks, heather. jenna: losing your bags to bumping us from flights airlines can frustrate us to no end. now the report card is out on many of them. doug mckelway is live in

washington with the grades. doug? >> reporter: this report is a bit of a mixed bag. airlines are for the most part holding their ground in performance a record 2012 basically as good as their best year, 2011. virgin america, jetblue and airtran landed top three spots in quality. bringing up the here of 14 airlines measured, skywest, express jet and very last place united. united responded to ranking, that read in part, united operations improved significantly in fall of 2012 and we continue to meet or exceed on time standard and set new records for performance. despite generally very good performance standings, complaints from travelers though have skyrocketed. the study's authors say that may be because united underwent recent merger with continental. similar effects may result in the brand new merger of us airways and american. >> you have two mediocre alines. when you put two mediocre airlines together, what are you going to get? one worse airline.

so that's what you can expect, immediately is for these two underperforming airlines to get worse before they get better. >> reporter: other factors contribute to customers complaints. to save money as you all know the airlines are increasingly wedging more and more passengers into seats with miniscule leg room, overbooking flights and charging for extra bags and in-flight entertainment nothing which makes the passengers very happy. jenna: makes right planes look pretty good, right, doug? jon: if you have one. jenna: if only. doug mckelway thanks very much. >> reporter: sure thing. >> we'll be back with more [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? e carful? how about...by the bowlful?

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