budget was due if nebraska. deadlines have not met much on budgets. he is coming out moments away in fact. jenna: the president is set to unveil his budget today. let's take a listen. >> that is the driving force behind every decision that i make. in the past three years our businesses created 6.5 million new jobs but we know we can help them create more. corporate profits are at an all-time high but we have to get wages and incomes rising as well. our deficits are falling, at the fastest pace in years but we can do more to bring them down in a balance and responsible way. the point is our economy is poised for progress as long as washington doesn't get in the way. frankly the american people deserve better than what we've been seeing, a shortsighted crisis-driven decision making like the reckless across the board

spending cuts that are already hurting a lot of communities out there. cuts that economists predict will cost us hundreds of thousands of jobs during the course of this year. if we want to keep rebuilding our economy on a stronger, more stable foundation then we've got to get smarter about our priorities as a nation. and that's what the budget i'm sending to congress today represents. a fiscally responsible blueprint for middle class jobs and growth. for years the debate in this town has raged between reducing our deficits at all costs, and making the investments necessary to grow our economy. this budget answers that argument because we can do both. we can grow our economy and shrink our deficits. in fact as we saw in the 1990s nothing shrinks deficits faster than a he growing economy. that's been my goal since i took office and that should

be our goal going forward. at a time when too many americans are still looking for work my budget begins by making targeted investments in areas that will create jobs right now and prime our economy to keep generating good jobs down the road. as i said in my state of the union address we should ask ourselves three questions every day? how do we make america a magnet for new jobs, how do we give our workers the skills to do those jobs and how do we make sure hard work leads to a decent living? to make america a magnet for good jobs this budget invested in new manufacturing hubs to help turn regions left behind by globalization into global centers of high-tech jobs. we'll spark new american innovation and industry with cutting-edge research like the initiative i announced to map the human brain and cure disease. we'll continue our march towards energy independence and address the threat of climate change and our

rebuild america partnership will attract private investment to put construction workers back on the job rebuilding our roads, our bridges, and our schools, in turn attracting even more new business to communities across the country. to help workers earn the skillshey need to fill those jobs, we'll work with states to make high-quality, preschool available to every child in america and we're going to pay for it by raising taxes on tobacco products that harm our young people. it's the right thing to do. [applause] we'll reform our high schools and job training programs to equip more americans with the skills they need to compete in the 21st century economy and we'll help more middle class families afford the rising cost of college. to make sure hard work is rewarded we'll build new ladders of opportunity into the middle class for anybody who is willing to work hard

to climb them. so we'll partner with 20 of our communities hit hardest by the recession to help them improve housing and education and business investment and we should make the minimum wage a wage you can live on because no one who works full time should have to raise his or her family in poverty. [applause] my budget also replaces the foolish across the board spending cuts that are already hurting our economy and i have to point out that many of the same members of congress who supported deep cuts are now the ones complaining about them the loudest as they hit their own communities. of course the people i feel for are the people who are directly feeling the page of these cuts. the people who can least afford it. they're hurting military communities that already sacrificed enough. they're hurting middle class families. there are children who have

had to enter a lottery to determine which get to stay in the head start program with their friends. there are seniors who depend on programs like meals on wheels that they can live independently but who are seeing their services cut. that is what the so-called sequester means. some people may not have been impacted but there are a lot of folks who are being increasingly impacted all across this country. that's why my budget replaces these cuts with smarter ones, making long term reforms, eliminating actual waste and programs we don't need anymore. so building new roads and bridges, educating our children from the youngest age, helping more families afford college, making sure that hard work pays, these are things that should not be partisan, they should not be controversial. we need to make them happen. my budget makes these investments to grow our economy and create jobs and it does so without adding a dime to our deficits.

now, on the topic of deficits, despite all the noise in washington here's a clear and una sailable fact. our deficits are already falling. over the past two years i signed legislation that will reduce our deficits by more than 2.5 trillion dollars. more than two third through spending cuts and the rest asking wealthiest americans to begin paying their fair share. that doesn't mean we don't have more work to do but here's how we finish the job. my budget will reduce our deficits by nearly another $2 trillion so that all told we will have surpassed the goal of $4 trillion in deficit reduction that independent economists believe we need to stablize our finances but it does so in a balanced and responsible way, a way that most americans prefer.

both parties, for example, agree that the rising cost of caring for an aging generation is the single biggest driver of our long-term deficits and the truth is, for those like me who deeply believe in our social insurance programs, think it's one of the core things that our government needs to do, if we want to keep medicare working as well as it has, an we want to preserve the ironclad guaranty that medicare represents, then we're going to have to make some changes but they don't have to be drastic ones. instead of making drastic ones later, what we should be doing is making some manageable ones now. the reforms i'm proposing will strengthen medicare for future generations without undermining that ironclad guaranty that medicare represents. we'll reduce our government's medicare bills by finding new ways to

reduce the costs of health care, not by shifting the cost to seniors or the poor or families with disability. they are reforms that keep the promise we have made to our seniors, basic security that is rock solid and dependable and therefore you when -- there for you when you need it. that is what my budget represents. my budget does also contain the compromise i offered speaker boehner at the end of last year including reforms championed by republican leaders in congress. and i don't believe that all these ideas are optimal but i'm willing to accept them as part of a compromise. if and only if they contain protections for the most vulnerable americans. but if we're serious about deficit reduction, then these reforms have to go hand in hand with reforming our tax code, to make it more simple and more fair so that the wealthiest individuals and biggest corporations can not keep taking advantage of

loopholes and deductions that most americans don't get. that's the bottom line. if you're serious about deficit reduction, then there's no excuse to keep these loopholes open. they don't serve an economic purpose, they don't grow our economy, they don't put people back to work. all they do is to allow folks who are already well-off and well-connected to game the system. if anyone thinks i'll finish the job of deficit reduction on the backs of middle class families or through spending cuts alone that actually hurt our economy short term, they should think again. when it comes to deficit reduction i already met republicans more than halfway. so in the coming days and weeks i hope republicans will come forward and demonstrate that there really as serious as serious about the deficits and debt as they claim to be. so growing our economy,

creating jobs, shrinking our deficits. keeping our promise to the generation that made us great, but also investing in the next generation, the next generation that will make us even greater. these are not conflicting goals. we can do them in concert. that is what my budget does. that's why i'm so grateful for the great work that jeff zions and his team has done shaping the budget. numbers work. there is not a lot of smoke and mirrors in here. if we can come together and have a serious, reasoned debate, not driven by politics, and come together around common sense and compromise, then i'm confident we'll move this country forward and leave something behind better for our children. that's our task. thank you, god bless you. god bless the united states of america. [applause]

rick: president obama in the rose garden introducing a vague outline of his budget. he calls this a common sense blueprint for middle class jobs and growth. this plan is already getting criticism from the right and the left. karl rove, formerer senior advisor and deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush and also a fox news contributor. what is your take away, karl? >> we now know why him to put together with the budget. they needed more time to come up with i am about mix and more time to focus group test it. i don't have the whiteboard but i got high-tech graphics department at fox to put together numbers. rick: i have friends in the graphics department, if you want to contact with them. >> please get in touch. think about this the president's budget is 3 trillion trillion $720,000. that is 6% increase. it is $160 billion more than the congressional budget

office said the federal budget would be if we kept all current spending programs in place and growing at their normal rates. so the president is increasing the rate of government spending. not reducing it, but increasing the spending. in fact if you compare the congressional budget office says over the next 10 years we would spend roughly $47 trillion under what is called current law. there is about a trillion dollars worth of gimmicks in there that the congressional budget office pointed to. so the real level of spending under current law is $46 trillion. that is what the president's budget calls for, $46 trillion. it is what the senate budget calls for, $46 trillion. the house republican budget is $41 trillion. that is 3 1/2% increase. the president and the senate democrats both want a 5% increase. they never as a result balance the budget. republican budget, by slowing growth rate to 3.5% balances in 10 years. here is the other thing. you heard the president talk about $1.8 trillion in deficit reduction. that has got a lot of gimmicks in it.

remember this, we have a trillion two in spending restraint from the sequestration passed in july of 2011. what the president is proposing to do is to replace that $1.2 trillion in spending. so it's a wash. there is actually increased spending, not less spending. rick: but the president says, first of all, there aren't a lot of smoke and mirrors. >> this is filled with smoke and mirrors. rick: that the numbers do add up. i want to put this out there. he said he already met republicans more than halfway. >> baloney. >> the white house says this is not an opening negotiating, this is the budget. take it or leave it. >> here's the deal. he is not met the republicans halfway. the republicans gave him $600 billion in additional revenue at the end of the year on the fiscal cliff deal. rick: yeah. >> the president during the campaign said we ought to have, had tv ads should be $2.5 in spending cuts for every new dollar in revenue. he has to come up with $1.5 trillion in spending reductions. there is nowhere near that

in this budget. there is $100 billion in deficit reduction in this budget over the next 10 years. not $1.8 trillion. rick: where do we go from here. >> we'll talk with karl about that after a quick break. we'll be right back here on "happening now." don't go away ♪ [ man ] excuse me miss. [ gasps ] this fiber one 90 calorie brownie has all the deliciousness you desire. the brownie of your dreams is now deliciously real.

rick: we're back with karl rove, former senior advisor and deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush and also a fox news contributor. again the president said he already met the republicans halfway. he is meeting with a number of them tonight for dinner at the white house. where do republicans go from here? what happens to this budget? >> they bring it up for a vote. i would suspect like the previous budgets of president obama. that is to say it will not draw very much support from democrats and no support from republicans. he has not treated this as a serious act of governing. he treated this as a pr gesture. i repeat, most democrats, half the democrats in the house written him a letter saying we don't want your entitlement reforms.

this will be voted on in the house and senate in all likelihood next couple weeks and we'll see very few presidents lining up behind the president's budget. serious work will be done between the senate and house appropriators. the appropriations committees that write the 13 appropriation bills that serve as budget for the government. that is where work will be done. the president was not serious in this proposal. rick: karl rove, thank you very much. jenna, over to you. jenna: more on the president's budget with austan goolsbee, former chair of the president's council of economic advisors and president of economics at the university of chicago booth cool of business. a lot to respond to karl's response to the president's budget. to sum it up, some are saying the balanced approach the president is putting forward he is not putting forward a balanced budget. some economists don't think that is necessary. where do you fall on it? >> what is important stablizing debt-to-gdp ratio and in simple materials debt-to-income.

you don't need to balance the budget in the short run to stablize the debt-to-gdp ratio in the u.s. that is where i come down. hearing karl rove, he had the east german judge at the olympics thing going. it literally doesn't make any difference what the president said, karl rove was going to say, that it wasn't serious and that he hadn't made any compromises. i think the fact that the president's own people on the left are upset about the cuts that he did propose in the budget kind of belie that a little bit. jenna: let's talk a little bit more about that because there has been a lot of criticism in the left about changes to entitlements, specifically when it comes to the way social security benefits are calculated. this is something that reportedly, you support austan. let's hear your thoughts as one of the former advisors of the president on this. what do you think potentially people on the left are missing here with criticizing the president's attempts? >> well, what i've said about, this is the changing the way that the social security benefits are

indexed. what i have said is the same thing that almost all economists say, which is the way we calculate inflation overstates the inflation rate, and that the proposal that the president has which is bipartisan proposal historically, is a better way to calculate inflation. now over time it would mean a reform of social security so there would be less money going out the door because, but it would happen slowly and happen over time. i think the divisions within the democrats are what you would expect. there are some people that say, doesn't matter how you calculate inflation, we don't want there to be less money going out the door. i think for anybody who's upset about those changes to social security, the republican budget by not being willing to have any revenue has to crush social security and medicare. that is the essence of this fight comes down to, do you want to try to do all of the reduction of the deficit through cutting of spending,

which means, going and squeezing the entitlements of social security and medicare much, much harder than anybody is comfortable with. jenna: so this is a lesser of two evils essentially, is that the way you think about it? only have a minute, austan? >> simpson-bowles gave you targeted amount, said two it two or three to one cuts to revenues. and that is similar to the ratios the president is proposing here. it is similar to some of the ratios you've seen from some republicans but if this attitude prevails tha can't be any revenue and we're not going to count past spending cuts as part of the total, only the against the revenues, then i don't think they can make a compromise. jenna: barney frank calls it a terrible policy and terrible negotiation strategy. so we'll see what the reaction is once everyone get as look at this plan which is happening now for the very first time, regardless how much we talked about it. austan, thanks. >> wonderful to see you, jenna.

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jenna: north korea ready it strike. that is the warning or the concern today from a very nervous south korea where leaders there are now warning that a missile launch could come, quote, at any day, whether it is a test or real launch or what. national security correspondent jennifer griffin is live at the pentagon with more on this. so what preparations are being made in the event of any sort of test from north korea? >> reporter: right now, jenna, the pent done and -- pentagon and south korea are in watch and with wait mode. you see preparations are made at the airbase in south korea. they have planes standing by. they're watching to see what will happen. we do know that at any

moment the north koreans could launch the musadon missile which has a range of 2100 miles. it could fly over jop and reach guam. u.s. is watching to possibly intercept those missiles if they come close to any bases or any of our allies bases. the pretty much races what you're seeing in north korea and korea right now are preparations for the centennial anniversary, the birth of the grandfather of kim jong-un. that happens on april 15th. many here in the pentagon think that is when you will see some of these fireworks, these missiles going off. there isn't a sense of panic. the e.u. sent a message to the north korean government saying they would not pull diplomats off the peninsula. they do not think it is warranted at this time. jenna? jenna: that is interesting. we got the president's bunt jet proposal. what the impact of this new budget on any sort of strategy in asia? >> reporter: i think it is

interesting if you look at what the president is proposing in terms of missile defense. his missile defense, the budget for missile defense is being reduced by $550 million at a time when tension is high in north korea and at time when you hear increasingly from the pentagon how they're going to be relying on missile defense. at the same time the pentagon is going to be moving some money around so they can put more ground-based interceptors in alaska and on ships. but again, $550 million may sound, it is about, you know, the budget for missile defense is $9 billion. it's a small amount in the scheme of things but it is still a cut to missile defense at a very crucial time. the other cuts we're seeing is the air force is going to take a hit. and we, one fact not noticed on monday is that the air force went to what is known as a tiered readiness. that means about a third of the fighter jets and pilots are told they won't be training right now. they're to come to work but not train because of budget cuts.

that will have an impact very significantly after 30, 60 days. pilots have to train in order to be combat-ready. jenna: very interesting points for us to consider today. jennifer, thank you so much. coming up later this hour we'll talk more about north korea. a security panel we have set up on the latest warnings. we'll ask why one of our guest believes we need to take a completely different approach when it comes to north korea because north korea is not our problem. an interesting debate is coming up. rick: new information on efforts to combat the growing cybersecurity threat here at home as a house intel committee takes up a revamped bill, one with new privacy protections. this is in response to a previous bill was in essence a blank check for government surveilance. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington. what is different about this version of the bill now? >> reporter: rick, this revamped bill will allow the federal government to swap information with private industry in an effort to track emerging cyberthreats or mitigate the fallout of a successful attack in

realtime. the cosponsors of the bill, republican congressman mike rogers, who chairs the house intelligence committee and the ranking kmem per of the committee, duch rupert percent berger say they made significant improvements that should satisfy critics including an amendment that would sanitize or remove personally identifiable information and they say there is now more oversight for how the information is used. >> automatic reviews from congress each year to make sure there is no personal information being used inappropriately through this it is just the really nasty cyber code, zeroes and ones traveling the speed of light that make up the internet. that is really what they're looking for is those patterns. >> reporter: as one example internet firms could only use the new shared data for security reasons. they couldn't use it for marketing or for other commercial purposes, rick. rick: catherine, there is the a sense on lawmakers that time is running out on this? >> reporter: the house panel will mark up the bill late today with the hope of a vote next week with looming threat of white house veto

which is what they faced last time. the congressman say the evidence is right there in front of us. they cite the recent report by the security firm mandiant for the first time identify this building known as the home for the people's liberation army unit, 16398 as a base for the chinese government sanctionsed cyber espionage program targeting u.s. industry. >> they're stealing it, cheating, taking it back to china, repurposing it, using those blueprints to build a product very similar to yours and compete in the market. it is costing us jobs. it is costing us money and it is taking away from our economic prosperity for the future around something we've got to get a handle on today. >> reporter: with confirmation that north korea was behind the recent cyberattack on south korea's banking and television networks which were temporarily disabled, this is more evidence of the use of cyber as an offensive weapon. we talked about this before on your show, this kind of one-two punch. cyber being used to prep the

battlefield followed by a second provocative act. in this case that could possibly be a missile launch april 15th by north korea, rick. rick: catherine herridge in washington. catherine as always, thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. rick: be sure to tune in this sunday, fox news reporting, your secret's out. a special look at cybersecurity concerns. it is hosted by john roberts and it airs this sunday night 9:00 eastern time. jenna: threats of a missile launch out of north korea leaving so many on edge. coming up we'll have two very different views on how to handle the situation. one says this is not america's problem. ambassador john bolton who thinks this. >> proliferation of weapons of mass destruction is a global threat. that's our problem and we should be involved in solving it ÷÷

rick: new information on the dangers of distracted driving. a new study claims that daydreaming is actually more of a threat than the other things that you might be doing while you're behind the wheel. harris faulkner is live at the breaking news desk. day dreaming, we all daydream, harris. >> reporter: i'm daydreaming right now. now you awakened me and i'm going on. it is actually five times more dangerous to daydream while driving than texting or talking on your phone. that is what new research shows. the erie insurance group studied this as it watched accidents increase. they studied data from 65,000 fatal car accidents from 2011 and 20.

10% were due to distracted driving. when you break unadopt numbers further, the research shows they're pretty alarming how most of us get lost in thought throughout the day. 62% of the people who died in the distracted driving accidents were daydreaming. only 12% were talking or texting on a mobile phone. this sort of speaks to previous studies that show conversations people are thinking about and having are more distracting than looking down and manipulating a device. but the frightening part of all this, rick, is it is really hard to turn off your brain to concentrate on the task at hand. with all other drivers doing the same thing, lost in their thoughts, motivation, pay attention. back to you. rick: oh. i'm sorry. >> reporter: now it is like we're married. rick: it is. jenna: same look she gives her husband. rick: thai, harris. >> reporter: you're we come. jenna: turn to one of the

top stories today. south korea warns a nuclear missile launch from north could come at any moment now. as a top u.s. commander tells congress that america is fully capable of protecting itself from any threat of this regime. listen. >> i believe we have the credible ability to defend the homeland, to defend hawaii, defend guam, to defend our forward-deployed forces and defend our allies. >> do which have the capability to intercept a missile if the north koreans launch within the next several days? >> we do. >> would you recommend such action? >> if the missile was in the defense of the homeland i would certainly recommend that action. if it was defense much our allies i would recommend that action. jenna: lots of concern, lots of hand-wringing. we certainly talked a lot about this on this program. is this a really a situation, the situation in north korea that demands so much of our

attention? just one of the questions raised today by a former reagan advisor who writes, quote, washington gains nothing from fixating on the intentions of a bankrupt and backward state which has little ability to strike americans, except those washington has voluntarily placed within range. the 28,000 plus stationed in south korea. better would be to begin bringing them home. leaving north korea's neighbors to deal with pongyang. here now, the author of that, doug bandow who is with the cato institute. joining us ambassador john bolton, fox news contributor and former ambassador to the u.n. doug, a different perspective for us today. why do you believe this. >> north korea is a evil regime but i don't believe they're stupid. they know they would lose a war. they want is attention. they gotten everything they want. they are driving the agenda. washington officials running around looking how silly how dangerous this all is. i think what we want to do is downplay this.

it maintains no sense to put conventional forces within reach of their mills sills when the south koreans are capable of defending themselves. this is problem for their neighbors. it is a nasty regime but not something we should fixate on like we've done. jenna: ambassador bolton, what is the risk of downplaying this. >> i think the are north koreans are a threat to the united states, to our allies in the region, south korea and japan in particular. they have a million man army and nuclear and biological weapons. they are not just a threat in the region. we know they are a global threat. we know since at least 1998 they worked with iran on their ballistic missile programs. we know until it was destroyed in september of 2007 they were building a clone of theirbyon reactor near the euphrates river in desert of syria, not a country they have known it have long historical relations with. prbly in conjunction with iran that their nuclear technology and their nuclear devices pose a worldwide

concern for us. it is not a question we can leave to south korea or japan. this is a global problem we have to be concerned with. jenna: doug, what do you think about what the ambassador just said, whether or not we leave the area or we don't pay proper attention might not only send the wrong message to north korea but our very important allies in the region and some of our enemies like iran? >> well, proliferation is a very serious problem but it is separate from defending our allies. look, the south koreans have 40 times the gdp and twice the population of north korea. they should defend themselves. i like them. i'm flying there later there month for a conference. they should defend themselves. same thing with japan. the u.s. is bankrupt. we shouldn't defend allies well able to defend themselves. we won't address proliferation by having conventional forces in south korea. the question what we do there, frankly, we have a lot of problems, with pakistan one of our supposedly great allies is major proliferator. these are problems that transcend regions but what

we're doing in terms of defending our allies doesn't help in that regard. i think it hurts. makes us seem more vulnerable and causes us to pay extra attention on threats are that really not threats and we're not achieving very much. we tried with north korea isolation, negotiation, lining, threatening none of that has worked. this will be a protracted problem. we shouldn't add to that worrying about conventional threats that our allies can handle. jenna: ambassador, to doug's point, one of the things you and i discussed a lot on the program is the bipartisan nature of north korea, the north korea problem and that we've had kind of these cycles of policy toward north korea that have repeated themselves in pattern and haven't really delivered what we would like, which is a regime change or not having a nuclear threat or not having them make all this noise in the region. so why not try something completely different? whether or not it looks like doug's plan or not, to see if we can get a completely different result? >> well i thought for quite some time that the only long-term solution to the

north korean threat is the peaceful reunification of the peninsula. they're not going to be negotiated out of their nuclear weapons program. they're not going to be bribed out of it. we've seen that through three successive american administration the what we need to do is persuade china it is in their best interests to have a reunited korea, accomplished in a peaceful fashion so nobody on the peninsula has nuclear weapons. now, with respect to the americans there it has been our policy for 10 years to get them away from the demilitarized zone. the principle responsibility, overwhelming responsibility for the defense of south korea in fact rests with south korean troops. what we want is to have the relatively small number of americans there based at the southern tip of the peninsula so that that they're available for deployment throughout east asia. which i think is very much in our national security interests. jenna: that is something we can talk to general keane about. he will be joining us a little later in the program. ask him about that. there is a big question amongst our viewers why do

we have nearly 30,000 troops there? doug, ambassador bolton, great to have you both. interesting perspectives for us today and we appreciate it very much. >> happy to be on. >> thank you. rick: coming up two key senators announcing a newbie partisan deal in the gun control debate. what it means for gun rights and for legislation currently working its way through congress? we'll talk about it straight ahead.

>> today's agreement is a first step in common ground that all of us agree is crucial to keep guns out of dangerous hands and keep our children safe. this is a bipartisan movement. it is a bipartisan amendment and we all know that a bipartisan solution is a lasting solution. rick: just in. that was senator joe manchin of west virgina. he and republican senator pat toomey of pennsylvania announcing a bipartisan deal on expanded background checks. they did that just a few moments ago. it is a move the nra already

has come out against but is this something that could gain traction post-newtown and lead to the first new gun control measure in about 20 years? juan williams is fox news political analyst. charlie hirt is a columnist with the "washington times." and, charlie, you first. this is a deal between two men. not between a large number of lawmakers but is it something that could start to get broader support? >> i think that when you look at the situation right now where harry reid has kind of a hard time marshaling even all of his own party in the senate just to bring up the bill, to discuss it, i think that is a pretty good indication that, from the outset he has a bit of a hill to climb here. i think that the other problem, as you just mentioned, rick, is the fact you've got a deal between two people, two people really would have to be far into harry reid's corner before he could get anything through. so i think that it's going to be tough and i have a hard time seeing it get too much traction and even if it

does manage to get through the senate, you know, you've still got the republican-controlled house where i don't see anything like this, you know, surviving and so, in terms of reaching even, you know, reaching president obama's desk, it is really kind of hard to see. rick: juan, for those that want to see more gun control laws on the books, even this is pretty bottom of the barrel. >> it is a weakened bill. i disagree with charlie. what we've seen in the last few days is a surprising amount of progress. remember, you had a hard-line group of conservatives in the senate who promised to block even this and what you've seen on the republican side now, more than a dozen republicans say they have no objection to having this proceed, to have the discussion. hopefully to have a vote. they could still filibuster the vote down the line. what you get now and getting out of this deal that comes from pat toomey a republican from pennsylvania and joe manchin, a democrat from

west virgina, both who have high nra ratings, is a deal that would expand background checks beyond those made by licensed dealers to any commercial sale. that is closing a huge loophole. i think there is substantial progress being made here. rick: i want to ask you to respond to what juan said, charlie, because pat toomey, we didn't hear from him at the top of the segment but he said expanded background checks are a matter common sense. he doesn't view that as expanded gun control at all. are republicans getting wobbly on guns? >> juan makes a great point. this is an incredibly watered down version what we were talking about some time back but the problem here is, you know, it is simplest questions that are the most devastating questions. this is why i don't think it goes far enough. quite frankly one of the reasons republicans decided to allow this debate to go on because they think they can win the debate out in the open and the simple question is this, what would this change in the laws do

to prevent newtown from happening? and the answer is, not a single thing. all of it is political posturing by politicians who are looking to capitalize on a very horrible, horrible thing that happened. and they're playing politics with it and it would, and even they have to admit it wouldn't do a single thing to have prevented newtown. the reason adam lanza had those guns had nothing to do with any of these gun show loopholes or any other loopholes. so it is pure political posturing. rick: adam lanza got those guns, his mother bought the guns legally. juan, do democrats need to come up with an answer to that question that charlie posed in order to try to win this debate and public opinion? >> i think that the people from newtown who came to washington yesterday and walked through the halls of congress provide the answer. they want some action. they're not asking, you know, there be a complete ban on guns. the obama administration had wanted a ban on assault

weapons and a ban on high-capacity magazines. that's not going to happen. rick: all right. >> but clearly the american people, 90% of the american people think that background checks are a reasonable step. that includes gun owners and --.

rick: just in, a rising star in the gop making an efforts to reach out to the youth and minority vote. senator rand paul addressing students at historically black college howard university. >> republicans have never stopped believing that minorities whether they derive from the color of your skin or the shade of your ideology should warrant equal protection. rick: molly henneberg is live in washington. what did senator paul say to the students? >> reporter: you heard a bit of it there, he started out

joking he must be either brave or crazy to pitch conservative principle at howard university, a historically black university in washington. senator rand said he may be the first republican speaker at howard since colin powell spoke there in the 1990s. and he urged the african-american students, to be quote, open to the republican message. >> i have never wavered in my support for civil rights or the civil rights act. the dispute, if there is one, has always been about how much of the remedy should come under federal or state, or private purview. what gets lost is that the republican party has always been the party of civil rights and voting rights because republicans believed that the federal government is limited though and that its function is limited by the constitution. some have concluded that republicans are somehow inherently insensitive to minority rights. nothing could be further from the truth. >> reporter: senator paul was interrupted once by a

couple of students who were quickly escorted out and then he continued on. was in the midst of a question and answer question with students. rick? rick: i wonder how most of the students who were polite enough not to interrupt the proceedings took the message because the republican party needs to make inroads in the african-american community, right? >> they were provide light and very engaged in the q&a session going on. based on results of last presidential election. by race, if you look at exit polls, blacks voted 93% for president obama. only 6% for mitt romney. when you break it down by age and college students and just out of college they voted for president obama over mitt romney as well. yes, rick, it appears republicans need to make inroads among african-americans and young people. rick: talking is a good way to start with molly henneberg in washington. thank you. jenna: some are concerned that north korea is on some sort of a warpath, reportedly ready it launch a missile, quote, any day. coming up a live report from the korean peninsula where

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our commitment has never been stronger. jenna: breaking news. a missile test could come at any moment by north korea. a u.s. commander in the pacific says we have the ability to shoot down any of the nation's missiles, but when would we take that action is one of the questions we are asking today. the president laying out a new budget proposal and taking heat from liberals and conservatives. could that actually be a great thing? we will have republican senator john john cornyn in a moment. a student on a stabbing spree hurts a dozen people on campus. what any of us can do to protect ourselves in such a violent situation. it's all "happening now." a new warning that north korea

is likely to launch a possible missile, maybe today, maybe in the next couple of days some say. some say tax day april 15th. welcome to a brand-new hour of "happening now." rick: i'm rick folbaum in for jon. south korea bracing for a ballistic missile test by the north. they say preparation ace pier to be complete and a missile launch could happen at any time. the foreign minister says the chance after missile being fired is very high. david piper is streaming live in seoul, south korea, david. >> reporter: u.s. and south korean forces are on a high level of alert at the moment because of concerns of a test missile launch by north korea. the high level of alert concerns further surveillance of the north and also the beefing up of military patrols by south korean forcess around key installation. the late is intelligence suggests the north could launch the missile at any time. south korean military sources

says two mid i've range missiles are on launch pads in the east of the country. the south korean government has warned that the test may have taken place on the 10th. we've moved into the 11th here now in south korea and there hasn't been any sign of any launch. also on the 10th foreign embassies were told to prepare to to evacuate their embassies in the north korean capitol pyongyang. the european union has now said that they don't intend to move anybody out at this time from any of the embassies, because the situation on the ground they say doesn't warrant it. also today, there are suggestions in the south that the missile test could take place on the 15th that is the day north korea celebrates the birth dave its founder, the grandfather of kim jong un. officials here in seoul also say they may conduct a launch of

several missiles at the same time. satellites have picked up the movement of short and medium range missiles in other parts of the country now. u.s. forces and allies are preparing to intercept any missile from the north if it threatens any of their territories. naval forces from the u.s. japan and korea have put to sea to monster any missile launch and have it ability to shoot it down. japan has also deployed patriot missile systems in and around tokyo. also u.s. naval forces are at sea off guam. this has been a u.s. territory that the north has threatened to attack. also a missile defense system is being sent there to protect the island. back to you, rick. rick: david piper streaming live from seoul, david, thank you very much. jenna: president obama unveiling his plan to spend $3.8 trillion next year. it's a blueprint and it's aimed at taming run away deficits, that's what he says by taxing some of the rich and trimming

popular benefit programs such as social security. the president says his proposal will cut next year's deficit to $744 billion, it's the lowess since 2008. his plan will cut the deficit by an extra $1.8 trillion over the next ten years bringing the total savings to $4.3 trillion based on the administration's calculations. of course the cbo will take a look at this as well. the president's ten-year plan will trim $100 billion from defense spending. $400billion from medicare and save $230 billion by change -lg the inflation formula for benefit programs. there is going to be a quiz on this later. i hope you got all that. in addition to the spending cuts the president has $580 billion in additional tax revenue as part of when he's calling a grand compromise with republicans. >> if anyone thinks i'll finish the job of deficit reduction on the backs of middle class families or through spending cuts alone that actually hurt our economy short term they

should think again. when it comes to deficit reduction i've already met republicans more than halfway. jenna: texas senator john cornyn r-r i is a republican whip. what do you think about the president's proposal. >> it strikes me as more of the same. it's two months late and largely irrelevant to what the senate and house are doing. we've already done our job and passed budgets out of both bodies. so the president's proposal really comes at the end of our work, and is -- there is no vehicle for us to really consider it. jenna: what do you think, senator, if i could, what do you think about the president's offer here to do something about entitlement reform? a lot of folks on the left are really angry about this. calling hit a betrayal, and he says he's doing it on purpose to come toward republicans. what do you think about that move? >> well, he obviously hit a nerve with some of the left who just don't think we ought to do anything to fix medicare and social security.

that is actually the price i think for what the grand bargain should be, and that is to save and preserve medicare and social security, which we all know, republicans and democrats alike, that are on a path to insolvency unless we do something about them. but the other problem with this budget proposal is that it would add an additional trillion dollars of taxes over ten years on $1.6 trillion that are already baked in the cake with obama care and the deal on the fiscal cliff that we cut on january the 2nd. so this is $2.6 trillion of additional taxes under this president. this is bad for the economy, it's bad for private sector job growth. that's why unemployment is so high. and so many people have simply given up looking for work. it's a tragedy. jenna: let's talk a little bit specifically about the budget when it comes to another big, important news topic and that is immigration reform. it's something you've talked a lot about senator. i know you just released some

proposals for border security and the "wall street journal" has an article today that says that what they are hearing about what is coming of immigration reform is that some really strict border security is part of the reform as a way to lead to a pathway to citizenship for those that are in this country illegally right now. where do we get the money for that extra border security if it is indeed part of a deal for immigration reform and something that you've so firmly believed in? >> well, law enforcement, and in this case national security, is a basic function of the federal government. it's the federal government's responsibility, one that it has not met in recent years, while things have gotten better at the border, in terms of the number of people coming across, we know that people coming across now include drug traffic rickers, human traffickers who traffic children for sex and the like, and this is still a problem that need to be solved.

so we need to build up the infrastructure. we need to have the boots on the ground and have the technology in place to give the american people the confidence that the public safety is being preserved along the border. once the federal government does its job, in terms of public safety, once it enforces the visa over stays which represent about 40% of i will legal immigration i think the rest of it gets pretty easy to do because the american people i believe are fundamentally compassionate and humane and they will allow us to solve this problem. jenna: where do you get the money for the resources that you're mentioning at the border? if it's not for raising taxes where do you see potential cuts so you can move that money towards border security and help some of the local law enforcement that you're talking about? >> to me it's a matter of priorities. surely within a 3.6 trillion or now the president has proposed $3.8 trillion in federal spending we can find the necessary fund in order to

prioritize law enforcement and public safety at our borders. so i don't think we need to raise taxes. you know, i think that is always the first reaction on the part of the president, and i think the american people think that the federal government taxes meant tee already, and as -- plenty already, and as i've already said we've seen an increase in 1.6 trillion in taxes with obama care and the fiscal cliff deal earlier this year. jenna: based on what you're hearing in the halls are we close to an immigration deal? we keep on hearing we might get something tomorrow or even on friday. >> i'm encouraged by the conversations that are occurring with the so-called gang of eight. we don't know what it looks like, but it will go to the senate judiciary committee that i serve on and then go through the process on the senate floor and through the house, but this is an issue we ned to deal with. we need to -- we need to deal w. we need to fix our broken immigration system. i don't know anyone who thinks

that the status quo is acceptable. jenna: thank you for being on the program. we always look forward to having you back. >> thank you, jenna. rick: new information now on a story that broke yesterday during "happening now," the terrifying stabbing spree at a community college in texas, wounding more than a dozen people, many with garbs to the neck and face. one of the students tackling the suspect asking the question many of us have, why? >> as soon as i put him on the ground i asked him, i was like, why? why? why did you stab these people? rick: casey stegall is live from dallas with more. what do would he know. >> reporter: we are learning more information about this 20-year-old student. he told police last night that he had been planning this particular attack for a longtime, and what he said next makes an even more disturbing picture. he says he has fantasized about stabbing people to death since he was a student in elementary school. and that appears to be the motive at this point, just a sick individual, because there was apparently no altercation,

no provoking, the attack completely random. it all started a little before 11:30 yesterday morning on a lone star community college campus which is about 30 miles northwest of houston. police say quick went on a building to building rampage slashing fellow students with an exacto knife. police -- people tried sopping up the blood with towels in the hallway. before it was said in done 14 were injured, some critically and had to be airlifted to local hospitals. others had more minor injuries like this woman the. >> the adrenaline, i didn't feel the cut. then i heard people screaming behind him where he was running at. so then what i heard people behind me i just -- i was like, no i have to go running to our room and get safety, you know. >> tell us what happened again? >> reporter: quick has been

ordered to undergo a psychiatric evaluation. he has already been charged with three counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, and authorities say more charges are likely to follow. his parents do live in the houston area and we're told they are cooperating with police. their son is hearing-impaired, and witnesses say he was known for carrying around a stuffed animal on campus. pieces of razor blade were discovered at the scene, and a piece of the blade in fact was found embedded in at least one of the victims, and the harris county sheriff's office says that the handle for this exacto knife was discovered in the suspect's backpack at the time of his arrest, rick. rick: casey stegall in dallas, thank you very much. sadly, the nightmare for these two dents at lone star college could happen anywhere. we'll tell what you experts say are the best ways to defend yourself in such violent situations, that is later on. jenna: one country with a history of disturbing ties to terrorism about to join a small

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jenna: "happening now" is hearing for the first time the 191 call that led to the fiery end of the interstate manhunt for a high proceed file murderer. harris faulkner is live in the new york city newsroom with more. >> reporter: jenna, christopher dorner's killing rampage captivated the nation and world today as people may remember east was literally being hunted right to the steps of a vacation cabin area in the mountains of big bear lake, california. inside one of those cabins a

couple of homeowners, karen and jim reynolds. they say someone was in their condo when they walked in on him. they may not have realized just how close they came to a mass killer until he started tying them up. here is their 911 call. >> when did he tie you up? >> right before leaving he tied us up. he had pillow cases over our heads. >> how long ago did he tie you up? it was like 15 minutes to 30 minutes. >> okay, so this all happened today? >> yeah, yeah, we're still tied up. >> try to scream out for the deputies, please. [screaming] >> you guys were tied up? >> yes. >> reporter: can you imagine trying to scream loud enough for them to hear you? he had been gone about 15 minutes or so before they called 911. you're looking at the video from

the day of his sort of capture. the cabin he was hiding out in was burning. it took some time to locate his body so they could say for sure the nightmare was over. dorner was angry after being let go from a police department years ago and was targeting law enforcement and their families. he killed four people during those days. by the way, the couple of the cabin, the homeowners, are joining a man dorner carjacked along the way. they want to file claims for some of the share of the one million dollar reward for information leading to his capture money. we don't know where that will lead to. it's interesting that they consider themselves more than just witnesses, they helped. back to you. jenna: interesting. harris, thank you. rick: right now saudi arabia on a list of countries whose travelers would be fast tracked through tight airport security here in the u.s. the same saudi arabia home to 15 of the 19, 911 hijackers the the men you see on the screen. eric shawn joins with us more. >> reporter: france and britain don't have it but soon saudi

arabia could. that is the special program to fast track travelers through the airport lines. the administration considering giving the qualified saudi nationals the ability to join global entry the u.s. program that permits the so-called trusted travelers, passengers who are pre approved and deemed a low risk for terrorism to skip the normal security lines and move right through customs more quickly. saudi arabia would be only the 6th country to have it. critics say the saudis do not deserve this special treatment. texas republican congressman michael mccaul questions if it could compromise u.s. security. >> the saudis have been very helpful with intelligence, but mistakes can be made in the vetting process, it's not perfect. all it takes is one to get through to cause a major disaster in the united states with an incoming flight into the u.s. that's why i want to prevent this and get an answer. >> reporter: the department of homeland security declined our

request for an interview. the agency has pointed out there are stringent security measures for global entry saying passengers pass through a rigorous background check, vetted for criminal violations, their phroeupl is verified and they get an inch person interview. they point out that the government gets more information and they say the state department checks when passengers get a advice a. other critics say when it comes to saudi arabia it's not right. >> the fact that saudi arabia has got even, you know, a jump to the head of the line in terms of the global entry program, and gained jurisdiction over intelligence vetting of visa applicants, way ahead of germany, or even israel, is mind boggling, and also reflects unfortunately the geo political values of this administration. >> reporter: hearings will be held on this contentious issue on capitol hill next week. rick: eric, thank you. jenna: in colorado a judge is

hauling a fox news reporter back into court ordering her to attend a hearing today as defense attorneys for theater shooting suspect james holmes try to identify her confidential sources. the latest on that. plus a question on the mind of so many in this country especially on school ground after the horrific attacks we've recently reported, including that stabbing in texas yesterday. how do you protect yours against a violent maniac on campus? we'll have that for you next. >> the adrenaline, i didn't feel the cut, but then i heard people screaming behind me where he was running at. >> you didn't feel yourself get cut? >> so then when i heard people behind me i just -- i was like no i have to go running to our room and get safety.

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people who r-r stabbed yesterday at a college near houston are still in the hospital today. nine others have been released and they've been treated. investigators say 20-year-old dillon quick attacked people at random in a building to building rampage. one of the questions that comes up when we do these stories is how do you protect yourself against this random violence. duepeter doocy is live with more. >> reporter: in the last few years hundreds of colleges and universities across the country have taken advantage of people having cellphones and will text out emergency information about a dangerous situation, whether it's a gunman or a blizzard. but obviously that is something that would go out after a situation has presented itself. same with the smartphone apps that a lot of schools have now as well. all that leaves student safety in the hands of the university. there are at least two dozen schools now like liberty university in virginia, where

students are now able to protect themselves with concealed weapons in any building except dorms. >> at liberty university because of our new concealed carry on policy this campus is safer. our students feel safer, and those that want to cause harm to this university will know that when they step on this campus, this is a campus with people that have the ability to defend themselves and not only the ability to, but the competency to because they've met the requirements of the law. >> reporter: not everyone thinks that is wise though. the campaign to keep guns off campus says letting students carry makes campuses more dangerous. they argue the armed students would be accountable to no one. the gunman would not be deterred by a stew tenth with a concealed weapon and they say that academic debate cannot flourish in a room full of guns. right now 22 states all together ban carrying concealed weapons on college campuses and 23 states let each individual school decide. the other five states have provisions that do allow law abiding citizens to carry on

college ground. jenna. jenna: peter doocy thank you. rick: a fox news report is back in court again today. jana winter faces up to six months in jail. she is refusing to name the source of who tipped her off about a notebook that belonged to the aurora movie killer james holmes outlining plans to kill people. there is a state law that protects journalists from this. alicia acuna is live with more. >> reporter: jana winter is required to be in court but the judge in the case says she will not be taking the stand just yet. she has to sit there as a detective testifies about whether he discussed the notebook with anyone else. the judge and james holmes defense team want to know if someone in law enforcement violated the gag order by leaking information to winter, whether winter is compelled to testify heupbls on whether that -- hinges on whether that

notebook is entered as evidence. if she does it would be extremely rare. >> the court has made clear that there is an even higher bar in cases like this where the reporter is a third party, a witness, not a defendant, not a party to the action. at the court has made clear that the bar is even higher in such cases. >> reporter: james holmes is expected to be in court as well today. it is his right as a defendant. remember, he has already offered to plead guilty in exchange for escaping the death penalty. the district attorney here rejected that offer. also we are not at the trial stage yet, rick. the trial isn't expected to start until next year, and today's hearing doesn't go anywhere near to the point of james holmes guilt or in sense. this is about who leaked information to a reporter. and that hearing begins at 1:30 mountain time. rick. rick: thank you. jenna: a famous evangelist takes

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trial is entering its 44th day of testimony. she is of course accused brutally killing her boyfriend and is claiming self-defense. she faces a possible death sentence if convicted. today prosecutor juan martinez is expected to keep grilling the defense's expert witness on domestic abuse. during yesterday's war of words between the two, this happened. take a listen. >> are you saying mr. alexander when he was speaking with the defendant was in the same relationship as you were with the defendant as when you were speaking with her. >> if you were in my group i would ask you to take a time out, mr. martinez. >> judge, would you please admonish the witness. jenna: we may all need a timeout every now and then. adam housley is covering the case since the beginning. he is live in los angeles with more. >> reporter: report wouldn't that be great to say to someone we'll give you a time out and start this thing over in three or four minutes. there is probably times in the trial that would be a

good thing. that really didn't surprise a lot of us. a harry met salary ref lens came up as well yesterday. once again the third full day of cross-examination of this final defense witness. the domestic abuse expert alice laviolette. less what happened after that point, after he asked the judge to admonish her he did make he got her to admit even if jodi arias lied to her she could have come to the same conclusion that jodi arias was abused person, abused by travis alexander. he got her to come to the point that there is no physical evidence of any abuse ever. take a listen to this exchange. >> the words never indicated that he ever hit her, correct? >> correct. >> never indicated that he choked her, correct. >> correct. >> the words never indicated that any other physical act towards her, correct? >> indicated cruel behavior

but -- >> acts? >> i don't know what that meant. >> reporter: again going through at that point some of the journal that jodi arias had written and nowhere in the journals did laviolette or anyone for that matter see any mention of physical abuse by travis alexander. that is one thing the prosecutor continues to hit as he goes after the defense witness like he has with other defense witnesses with foot on the gas pedal going full bore. a number of times the judge had to admonish the witness to answer the question. try to explain things and find a way around it and it was supposed to be a yes or no answer. there were a lot of side bars called by the judge. there was motion for mistrial by the defense the judge for the fourth or fifth time said no. so, jenna, once again day 44 today, the third full day of cross-examination of this witness. one more note. the judge started to schedule days on fridays. normally there is no court date on friday. now there will be court days on fridays. she put down one day in may, if that was to happen, this case jury selection began it

december, potentially could stretch into the six month if this goes into may. jenna? jenna: wow, incredible. adam, thank you. rick: joining you now for more on the trial, faith jenkins is former prosecutor. brian clay fool, a -- claypool, a criminal defense attorney. my 3-year-old gets a time out. have you ever heard a witness from the stand tell the prosecutor he needs a time out? >> no, i haven't. it was completely inappropriate which is why the prosecutor wanted that removed from the record which is why it was. you have martinez, his style is to be on the offensive and go after these experts and what he believes are these completely bogus theories they are profounding in front of the jury, go after them, attack them. he can be a little bit long-winded but in the end he is making inroads here. laviolette on the other hand, she seems to want to be combative with martinez at the same time. anytime he advances any sort of theory that undermines what she is trying to put forth in the case. so it is almost like as if

she is coming across as jody's protector instead of an independent expert trying to give an opinion here. rick: brian, how do you think it is going down with the jury the way she is acting on the stand, an advocate of her former patient and also the aggressive style the prosecutor is using with her? >> well, rick, i think juan martinez has been seduced by jodi arias. here's what i mean by that. she has gotten under his skin so much that he is spending days on end bickering and badgering an expert witness. i almost thought i was watching two people quarreling at a baseball game over a foul ball watching those two yelling at each other yesterday. but here's the irony in all this. jodi arias is claiming that she was also verbally abused by travis alexander. here we have a prosecutor, in a courtroom, who is borderline badgering and verbally abusing the same expert witness. it is almost a replay of what jodi arias is claiming. and i think that bodes well

for the joid joed camp. rick: -- jodi arias. rick: this playbook, which side do you think has the upper hand, the longer this goes on? >> i think it is definitely the defense. if you were, if i was pros cuting this case i would want to get in, present my evidence and get out and get this case to the jury because the evidence is simply overwhelming that jodi arias committed this crime. the longer this drags out, the more they have these experts come on and talk about this. martinez needs to realize he will not get the knockout punch with these witnesses. laviolette, definitely is standing her ground. she is not giving in to him very much. he is not going to get the knockout punch. i agree with my colleague at some point he need to end the cross-examination and move the trial forward. rick: brian, a couple seconds, if you're on the defense side how are you feeling right now? >> i'm feeling pretty good, as the evidence stands right now i don't think juan martinez can prove first-degree murder. he hasn't proved beyond a

reasonable doubt that this murder was premeditated. he needs a strong rebuttal and has to focus on the forensic and physical evidence. rick: buy and a faith, thank you both. >> thank you. jenna: the president is about to visit china, south korea and japan. how america and the rest of the world should respond. we'll have more on that next. ♪ [ acoustic guitar: upbeat ] [ dog ] we found it together.

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recommend that we intercept a missile at, if it is launched by north korea no matter where the intended target is? >> i would not recommend that. >> until you were sure what the target is? >> well, i think if you, as you know, if you look at the architectures that we have, you know, we will be able to sense and be able to understand pretty quickly where any launch from anywhere in the world but in this particular case, from this particular site, where it would probably, where it would be going and what we would need to do about it. so i'm confident that we would be able to make that decision for the defense of our allies and our homeland. jenna: general jack keane is a fox news military analyst and a retired four-star general, former army vice chief of staff. general keane, why not take out the missile wherever it goes? if north korea is in clear violation of any of the u.n. sanctions, why not send a clear message that this is

inappropriate and we're not going to stand for it? >> well, i think it would be a mistake. it would kater to escalating this thing and that is the one thing we don't want to do. we want to show resolve and strength. we've already done that we brought our b-52s, our stealth fighters, aircraft, maritime shipping into the area. there has been world condemnation. i think this guy got the attention he really wants. i suspect now that he is going to launch a missile, this is where the crisis began, jenna, in december with a missile launch. i think we're in the final stages of this so-called created crisis by kim jong-un. and we shouldn't do anything to, you know, to add to it. jenna: sure. where does it stop though, general keane? where we don't have every week or every month or we're wondering if north korea will shoot off another missile? >> the only way it is going to stop is the regime has to change and our strategic and geopolitical objectives should be that. i'm not suggesting we do it militarily but we do it

every possible way we can to undermine this regime. certainly china is very key here. china has always believed that a unified korea is not in their national interests. they do not want a unified korea as an ally to the united states on their border, but quite frankly they wouldn't have a u.n. command in a unified korea and probably wouldn't have 30,000 u.n. troops in a unified korea either. so i think it is in their interests but we've never been able to convince them of that. jenna: let's talk a little bit about the 30,000 troops still in the dmz in north korea. >> sure. jenna: i'm sorry, in south korea, right over the border. ambassador bolton was on our show earlier today and he had some words why the troops were still there let's play that. i would like to get your thoughts on it. >> with respect to the americans there it has been our policy for 10 years to get them away from the demilitarized zone. the principle responsibility, overwhelming responsibility for the defense of south korea in fact rests with south korean troops. what we want is to have the

relatively small number of americans there based at the southern tip of the peninsula so that they're available for deployment throughout east asia. which i think is very much in our national security interests. jenna: what do you think about that, general keane? explain to our viewers why our troops are still there. >> well, the troops are there, i would disagree with that statement a little bit. they are certainly there for deployment elsewhere but primarily there to help strengthen the defense of south korea and the reason why the troops are there and the reason why the u.n. command is there heading by an american is pause of the north korean aggression sand the potential attack to the south. that is fundamentally the reason. we've reduced our troop strength there as the capacity, capabilities, and strength of the south korean military has increased. and there is no doubt about it, the south korean military is very capable. we bring significant capabilities to them. we have aviation that is on the ground there and we have a huge capability in terms

of to counter the number one north korean threat is artillery and we have capability to deal with that. we're number one support for that defense and even though we changed the location of the troops and got them off the dmz. jenna: do you think that is detering north korea from acting out or adding to the policy of containment that the nonpartisan research congressional research service says the administration is practicing? >> the fact of the matter is north korea, absolutely knows if they attack the south or did something outrage just in terms of a nuclear missile, they know their regime would be destroyed. that's why despite all the claire i don't know calls that -- clarion calls that kim jong-un is making he has not alerted any of his forces, not moved any of his forces except for the missiles. at the end of the day the only reason, he wants a nuclear weapon is for regime

preservation. so he is not going to do anything that will endanger the preservation of the regime and keeping him and his thugs around him in power. jenna: some people have questions about that of course because they call him untested as a new leader. this is important context for us, general keane, because as their rhetoric gets hotter from north korea we want to be sure we counter that with the appropriate information. always great to see you, general. >> good talking to you, jenna. rick: an agreement is said to be reached on one of the key gun control measures nearing a pivotal vote in congress. we'll tell you what has happened just today. big brother on campus. the new technology that allows your professors to know whether you are doing your homeworkings, or not. stick around.

rick: very glad they didn't have this when i was in

college. right now professors at some universities know when their students are skipping pages, failing to highlight key passages or simply not opening their book at all. sean devine is ceo of course smart. the silicon valley startup behind this latest technology. good to talk to you, sean. this involves ebooks. that is how teachers are able to get the information. tell us how it works. >> well, what we do, rick, because the book is in fact in digital form, we're able to track what's done inside the book. unlike a paper book where you can't tell what's happening inside the book, using our technologyable to tels reading pages. if a student is making notes and highlights. how much time the students spend in the book. so we roll that all up into a dashboard that a faculty member can look at and gain more insight into student engagement. rick: what kind of feedback

are you getting? one said this is a little big brother but it is a good big brother. >> the feed book is overwhelmingly positive. we're rolled out at nine difficult schools. we have roughly a thousand students participating. we're hearing the types of thinks you saw in the article. students, both welcome the ability to get this feedback and have this feedback available to their faculty members and they also welcome, what's been going on forever, frankly. the ability for a faculty member to intervene and help them when they might need additional assistance. >> the article you're mentioning is an article in the "new york times" which caught our attention and led us to us inviting you to come on. has anybody said, sean, maybe letting kids who don't do their readings, don't do the homework and letting them fail is a good thing, maybe better than the teacher there, sort of following and tracking everything that they do? maybe there's a lesson to be learned in failing as well? >> well, failure is really not an option in education

in our country today. students have a trillion dollars in debt. it's one of the most widely discussed topics around education today, how much debt students are carrying. a little-known fact is that under 50% of the students graduate within six years. and obviously that is something that contributes to the debt burden. so the feedback we're getting that anything that can be done to help with students success is a positive thing. if failure, and then not achieving your goal, is, is the objective, then we don't think that's a good objective. we think the objective is to achieve the goal, get out of school, become a contributor to society. rick: sure. >> rid yourself of debt and things of that that sort. rick: what about the for the teachers though? are you working on any software that lets the students know if teachers are reading every single word of term papers they're sweating over all year long? >> well, we haven't done that. there is plenty of software out there like that, but

that's not been our focus. you know, our focus is helping with student success and we stay focused on that goal. rick: sean devine's company is called course smart, based out in silicon valley. good to talk to you sir. all the best of luck to you and your team and and the technology. >> rick, we appreciate your time. thank you. jenna: skip a chapter here or there, you still get the point, right? only way some of us got through college. rick: exactly. jenna: well the adrenaline was pumping as two teenage girls find the strength to lift up a 1 1/2 ton tractor to save their dad. their incredible story next. the humble back seat.

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