margaret thatcher is. thanks for being with us. let not your heart be troubled. greta is next with "on the record." hope to see you tomorrow night. have a great night. finally the president has offered his budget to the american people. >> better late than never on the budget, i suppose. >> it's late. >> now that we've -- we will see the president's budget finally. >> of course, it's two months late, like nearly every one of his budgets so far, and it's largely irrelevant to what the senate and the house are doing. >> good news and bad news tonight. for weeks we've been hammering president obama for not doing his job. the good news is we finally have the president's budget. the bad news is, you might not like what's in it. house budget committee chair paul ryan tweeted good news, the president finally released his budget, bad news, a $1 trillion spending increase, a $1 trillion tax hike and record debt. congressman paul ryan joins us

from the great state of wisconsin. night to see you, sir. >> good to be back with you. >> so what's wrong -- let's take it bit by bit. nearly $1 trillion in spending. >> so we have a trillion dollars deficit, we've got a debt crisis on the horizon, and it's spending driven. so what does the president propose? about a $1 trillion spending increase, only to be eclipsed by a $1.1 trillion tax increase. so the total deficit reduction in this ten-year budget. >> is $119 billion. and the deficit reduction he beginning of the year 2020, four years after he's left offi. >> so this is just a -- is this a budget or a political document in your mind? >> it's morph the same, take more from families, spend more in washington, ignore the deficit and the debt. so it's just not a very serious attempt to get a hold of our fiscal problems. that's what we see. >> do you see any part of it that, for example, the changed cpi?

if you can explain it for the viewers. you see that as sort of annal live branch or reaching out. >> that's what i interpret it as. this is the consumer price index, economists claim that it is overstated. so this is an attempt to make it more accurate. and what that does is it ends up saving money throughout the federal government on various programs that are tied to spend to go the consumer price index. the president puts this proposal in there, in his budget. first time he's done something like that. it does affect the spending on things like social security and medicare and lots of different programs. so we interpret this as more like an olive branch, meaning a good thing from the perspective that he's willing to put something on the table that's controversial. we've never proposed it before. our proposals have always been don't deal or touch currency, reform the programs for younger generations so that they can ve these programs when they retire so they don't go bankrupt, while making sure

current seniors don't have changes. current seniors and reflects reforms to the next generation. it's a different approach but at the very least he's putting something on the table that he intends to be an olive bran and i see that as a good thing. >> and the change the cpi, we are almost a little sloppy and call it cutting social security benefits. >> no. >> it's really how much does it grow so you keep the same sort of buying power? >> that's right. it's a more accurate measurement of inflation adored to go tad decisions and economists. it's a proposal that has been around for a number of years. president clinton proposed something like this in the 1990s. it's not a new idea. it's new from the white house. it saves about $230 billion. there are different iterations of this idea but it's really the

only thing in here i would say is a serious attempt at budgeting but it's washed out or outdone by the massive spending increases. he's proposing $1.1 trillion in higher tacks after he just raised taxes is $.6 trillion and a $1 trillion spending increase. he says that we need to deal with the deficit. he's proposing we start reducing the deficit in 2020. >> after he's gone. >> four years after he's gone. >> why do you think he did that? a political reason or a smart way to do it to ease us into trying to do it? >> ease us into trying to do it? maybe waiting a year is easing us in, but waiting until 2020? >> he believes that by spending money to stimulate the economy, if you stimulate the a economy there will be more revenues, more revenues for the government. >> so that was his thinking behind the stimulus package. >>? 2009. >> obviously hasn't worked but that's the way he thinks about economics, i think that's fair to say. but this is 2013. he's say questioning should

start deficit reduction in 2020? the debt crisis will have come and gone by then if we don't get the situation under control. we proposed balancing the budget in the house. we bam the budget not just because you want numbers to add up, but it's the right thing to do to grow the economy to improve people's lives. if we want to restore this country and fight poverty and get people back on their feet again and get out of the slow economy, shrinking paychecks, we have to have a break with the politics of the past. the president is proposing morph the same. that's the problem as we see it. this is one of those status quo budgets, much like the senate budge i. he proposes never to balance the budget ever and we propose not only to balance the budget but to save these incredibly important programs like medicare so they are solvent without changing currency. >> i am going to ask you about medicare but first this. the u.s. budget deficit fell this year according to a report, compared to last year.

that's the right direction. did you agree with that? >> it's the right direction but because of the economy. >> the fact it's fall anyone a year is that a indication the economy is revving up and if it does there will be more jobs and more revenue. and sort of to supplement whoever the budget plans are. >> if the economy gross, that does happen. i wouldn't say revving up. we are at a slow growth. i don't think you can say the economy is revving up. >> but that's a significant number, the deficit has fallen. >> there are natural things occurring in the budget which is some programs automatic stabilizer, unemployment and things like that, are shrinking but the president in his budget proposal is to increase the deficit next year. he proposes nor spending which increases the deficit. we get the deficit down, cut it in half right away and thennual the budge he. we are showing you can do that. the growing the economy and cutting the budget is seat

credit sauce to this mess. >> my thinking was, it was my understanding and perhaps incorrect, that the obamacare sort of decided, resolved a lot of our healthcare issues, sluggish use about medicare. now i see in the president's proposal all these sort of changes in medicare, all the tacks and thing going up and benefits fits going down and i harken back to the president say if you like what you have before it will keep everything. and now i see it chipping away and i see all sorts of different different things, decreases in payments to medical medicare providers. >> that's right. >> why are we seeing obamacare almost being managed through a budget proposal or am i wrong about that? >> you are right about that. i think this is what the world looks like under obamacare s changed medicare and medicaid and then created obamacare. what obamacare did to medicare is it took $715 billion from medicare to spend on obamacare

and put a new word in charge, putting price controls on medicare providers, which leads to denied access. now in addition to that, in this budget they are calling for about $400 billion more in price controls and cuts to medicare providers. the problem is what the medicare providers are telling us, they will stop providing healthcare to medicare beneficiaries. you go down the path and have government ration and medicare to the community, people aren't going to be able to get medicare and that's what we see coming with obamacare. this is why we have the reform which says get rid of that, leave medicare alone so my mom can keep it like she has and reform it for my generation. those of us who are 55 and younger, so that it reforms, reform it in a way that makes it sustainable. it works like the plan we have in congress. that makes it sustainable for us and helps us keep the commitment to our current seniors. that's what we propose.

the president has rejected that. as a result he has to do this. >> it almost seems like in his budget plan -- i mean, i can see why you will want to modify it in yourlan, but in his plan it seems there's some effort to modify obamacare through the back door. >> the point is the same. >> but there's morph the same but all of a sudden it's more evident because i haven't seen the regulations, but people will be taxed more or there will be decline in payments for service providers. i can see it going through the budge the. >> yes. so that's what obamacare started to do. it said less money for medicare providers through obamacare. that passed. that's coming. now we see medicare providers are having a real hard time providing healthcare. now what he's following up on is say here's my only recost saving idea in entitlement reform, let's stick it to the providers again, in addition to what's already coming. which means more price controls

and fewer services for medicare beneficiaries. that's his version of entitlement reform, medicare reform, which is very different from what we've been proposing but that's the path we are on with his obamacare program in place. >> aarp has gone after him a little bit on this. he said something in the campaign we have a tape from 2008 when he was running against senator john mccain. >> john mccain's campaign has gone further suggest that the best answer for the growing pressures on social security might be to cut -- might be the cost of living adjustments or raise the retirement age. let me be clear, i will not do either. >> all right. well, obviously he's changed. is the president right? this is obviously gotten a lot of people upset in his base. he said he's meeting the republicans more than halfway. you sort of roll your ideas. >> i wouldn't say he's meeting us more than halfway. we never proposed it. >> but it's a general in the budget. is there anything else in the budget where you see a gesture

to you to talk? >> we cut $5 trillion in spending. he raises $1 trillion in spending and raises a trillion-one in taxes. how do you see it meeting us halfway? >> so it's dead on arrival? >> we say take $5 trillion out of spend to go balance the budget and reform the tax system. get rid of the loopholes and grow the economy. he says don't do that, but raise taxes $1.1 trillion and raise spending is $11 trillion. how is that meeting us -- $1 trillion? how is that meeting us halfway? >> his budget and the house of representatives, dead on arrival? >> of course, but i think they probably understands that. >> so where do we go from here. >> i don't want to be as dower as i come across right now. i would like to think because the 123459 pass add budget for the first time in four years, and the president put his bunget on the table, about 65 days late, i would like to think that puts in place a process under which we can start talk.

>> i would like to think, but is it realistic? >> i think has realistic. putting the changed cpi idea that the president has put on the table shows me that he's more serious than he has been in the past. albeit the mac crow statistics of this budget, the trillion in tax increases and spending increases, that's not very serious. >> do you think he loaded it up so he can give something up coming to the table? >> i honestly don't know. >> when he spoked to a couple things struck me. he said my budget replaces the foolish across the board spending cuts that already hurts our economy. he's talking about the sequester. >> he wrote the sequester. >> but he actually said it twice in the speech. >> i stopped trying to figure it utah. the senate pass add budget, we pass add budget in the house, the president put one on the table, we have to start talking and find out where common ground exists. because what we believe it owes the people is get it under control. we have to improve people's

lives and get people back to work. so this to me tells me we've got to get to work, we have to start talking to each other, and at least they passed something in the senate and at least he proposed something so we can start talking. >> would you have a different view if the february, 2009 stimulus had revved up the economy? would you have a different view of his -- >> well, it it didn't so it's a hypothetical. >> any, no, i'm saying the fact the stimulus bill was so disappointing and the fact his budget mirrors much of the idealology of the stimulus bill is that a sign he's on the wrong track? >> i don't think he's learned the lesson of economics or history and he continues to repeat the same mistakes of that been made. if we have any value, republicans, the government, we won't help him repeat the mistakes will help him prevent the mistakes and get a down payment by cutting spending, reformling title meant programs, growing the economy, reforming the tax code, opening up

emergency exploration so we can have the energy renaissance that is on the cusp in this country if we allow it to happen. that will increase jobs, paychecks, get the economy revving up and getting the debt under control. >> congressman, thank you. >> now on greta wire.com, 65 days past the deadline. was his budget worth the wait? go to greta wire.com and tell us what you think. and straight ahead, if president obama gets his way, will your taxes be going up? we will tell you what is hidden in the budget. and also coming up, north korea could fire a missile at any time. a live report coming up. and this looks like homework? why is a kindergarten teacher pole ♪

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where are the tax? >> they are all over. almost $1 trillion in new taxes. more taxes on small businesses and those over a certain income a cap of 25% on deductions but none of it goes back into tax reform which is, of course, what i will like see and paul ryan and others who want to see the economy growing. tax on people's estate. remember the estate tax issue we went through the end of the year and we decided to have an exemption for farms and small businesses and family-owned enterprises. the president wants to change that and go back to higher tacks there. there are higher taxes all through the things. part of the taxes are in the changed cpi, which i actually support and i actually applaud budget.ident for including that one thing that's gotten lost in the discussion is not only the accurate measure for social security but also how you index the tax code. there's about $100 billion new in tax there is because of the

indexes based on a more accurate measure of inflation. >> is there anything in the bill as far as taxes go that you could agree with, that you could concede is a good idea? >> again, i think the accurate measure of inflation, not just for social security but across all federal programs and our tax code, it's appropriate. that means about a three to one ratio in terms. saves and the spending side. >> his supporters, they aren't happy with him that he's agreed -- or at the least his budget proposal he would go along with a changed cpi. the people who don't agree don't say their methodology is inaccurate, they have a different methodology. >> but they aren't economists. >> but it's not like they are going around and say let's figure out a way to make this crooked or deceitful. they have a different measure. >> they don't want to touch it. they think social security is fine despite the fact there's a deficit this year and we know the trust fund for social security and disability goes

belly up in a few years. and despite the fact within the lifetime of people retiring today which is about 20 years from now you see the whole trust fund be bankrupt. social security is not sustainable in its current form. everybody knows that. that's irresponsible for people on social security now and immoral to do for future generations. but it's about 20 or 30% of the problem. and as to how much you increase the benefits based on the cpi. >> what do you think about the idea he has to increase taxes on cigarettes to finance prek? >> he almost doubles the cigarette tax, as well. all of us think pre-k is important. we want to make sure programs like head start is doing the right way and there are reports out, including from groups in town who have analyzed it that say the program should be reformed and improved.

but, look, there's a need to deal with the spending side. we all have looked at the numbers not from us but from the congressional budget office, a nonpartisan office here on capitol hill that decides what the projections are. and they say tacks are not going to get to the level they have within the last 50 years but above that level. and spending is going to be dramatically above that. >>? terms of the tacks, let's say a family of four, they make 50 to $75,000 a year, are these taxes, with the exception if you are a smoker, are the tacks going to hit you? or is it just going to be the ones, the tax, predominantly on the wealthy? >> everybody gets hit by these taxes in one way or the other, including the 20 new taxes in obamacare. but it's going to hurt the economy. it will make it harder for that person -- >> so sort of indirect in even if you don't get hit directly with a tax, you aren't in the income bracket to get hit, it

may discourage other investments because of -- >> over half the income in the brackets get hit again as they were in year end is business income. that means small businesses, pass-through entities, which is about 85% of businesses in america. i'm an investors in one, own one and grew newspaper a business like that. it means there's less money invested in the businesses. fewer jobs. it affects us all. this is not a revenue problem we have in 24 crutch the revenue again, a a percent of the economy, which is how you ought to look at it. is adequate. it will be above the historic average in a few short years here. but the problem is spending is skyrocketing. >> there's also added complexity, the tax code, we have medicare woven through the budgets and trying to make amendments to medicare through the budget process. and the tax code, too, we have changes proposed in tax rates and whatnot, and we need to -- >> without tax reform. there's no tax reform here. >> but instead of having, you

know, we need tax reform so people can understand the tax code. >> exactly. >> we need to simplify it. what's another way to make it more complicated? add a few more. >> by the way, the corporate side the president does something interesting in his budget that no one else is talking about, but i think it's actually positive. he is it his normal loopholes, and in the past he said the loophole closers ought to go in the budget. this i'm he said no, with regard to corporate tax reform, true to what he said by the way in the state of the union address, ought to be used to reduce the rate. there ought to be deficit neutral and revenue neutral. he doesn't take it and use them to make the budget look smaller. that's one positive thing. the problem is he doesn't provide, you know, for the way to get there, either corporate or individual. doesn't say it ought to be 25% which makes it competitive globally. doesn't say the individual rate

ought to be adjusted at all. and that's the big of the part of our tax system. there's a couple little olive branches here. one would be an accurate measure of inflation that reflects taxes and -- >> change the cpi. >> change the cpi and the second is the notion have a more competitive tax system so we can create more jobs in the country. >> i like a tax system we can't figure out. >> it's all about simplifying the tax code and making it less complicated and better for the economy. >> nice to see you, sir. >> thanks for having me again. >> did you know you sent $58 million on parties, parties you were not invited to? who were the party animals? you would find out next. and forget nap time and snack time, it's pole time for this kind ♪ [ male announcer ] start with nothing, build a ground-breaking car. good. now build a time machine. go here, find someone who can build a futuristic dash board display. bring future guy back.

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>> okay. if you are stand you might want to just sit down for this one. this time, well, it's the department of justice. according to doj's inspector general michael horwitz, they are spending more than $58,000 on conferences last year. $58 million. and by the way, guess whose $58 million they spent in it's yours. $600,000 went to events for five conferences, even event planners. and conference guests were treated to pricey food and drinks like a is it $11 cup of coffee, and you thought starbucks was pricey. and how about this one?

publicity affairs unit. how much did you pay for that? $1.5 million. can't hollywood pay for its own stuff. mr. cal analyst brit hume joins us. those are party animals at the justice department. >> and the reason why we don't hear about these things except for times likes this is can you imagine anybody covering one of those conferences? >> i would love to. >> you would die of boredom. >> i would sit and have the coffee. twelve dollars cup of coffee, i wouldn't mind that. i mean, this seems like incredible to me. >> it does. but it's a very large country and a very large department. in the broad scheme of things, $58 million is really is a drop in the bucket. >> it would finance every public school in my hometown. >> i hear you. but what i'm saying is when

people start worrying about the budget and they are looking at the enormous deficits and the tremendous debt that we've accumulated and how to deal with it, you could go after every $58 million bit of waste in the government in a department like the department of justice, which is really tiny in comparison. it's all good and nobody will say it's not but what i'm saying when you get down to it, it's not that much money. >> but here's the point. it's an example of the culture. >> exactly. >> in washington. and $58 million may not be $58 billion and it may not break the bank and it hay not mean the difference between whether we give social security to someone or not but it shows an example of the way this city thinks about using other people's money. >> exactly. and there's a certain innocencetist that i think, and i think it's fair to say when it comes to this president that has been -- that has been in play when you see how little regard

he seems to have for the public sensibilities about things like golf trips in the middle of a proposed crisis over the sequestration of a certain amount of government money. and president bush abandoned golf all together because he thought it would not look good while men were fighting in iraq. about department doesn't seem concerned about $58 million, which to a lot of people is a lot of money, and whose value is hard to measure. >> i will send them to the woodshed right now because their job is for oversight. there will be over sight so it didn't happen, number one, but they did the study, did one last year and came up billions of dollars of wasted funds and did it again this time but in the meantime did anyone do anything about it? so we spent money on a second

study that did nothing about it at all. if we aren't going to do anything about it, why are we doing the study? >> welcome to washington. >> it's painful. so many good americans out there, and doesn't anybody care? you know, about how they are spending the money of taxpayers in this city when they do parties? >> the fact of the matter is they don't really. they don't like it when it's embarrassing or gets out but they like to do conferences and like to do big events like that. and maybe important advice is i am parted to people, who knows. >> have you ever been around a bunch of lawyers at a conference? >> you just said you wanted to go. >> i want to go with a video camera and let it role and bring back the receipts and bring it back to the american people. earlier today senator rand paul was at howard university and he spoke to the students there, an african-american school and he was doing this outreach. what did you think? >> i thought the speech was kind of gutsy on his part. republicans are in bad way with african americans and have been

as long as i can remember practically. they do have a story to tell. very few national politicians have really tried very hard to tell it. rand paul is making kind of a down payment on an effort to do that. i thought there were things he could have said better but it was kind of the right thing for a guy like that to do. he's young, he's new, a fresh face, maybe he will get a hearing. it's been hard for them to get a hearing in the african-american community for a long time. >> we have a sound bite. let's play thank the republican party hasn't talked enough about the great history and the interaction between the republican party and black history and voting rights in our country. i would try to make the arc meant, and it's an uphill battle. frankly, it is an uphill battle for me to convince you that thae haven't changed but i'm trying to. >> and he's putting his markers down for 2016? >> and he may well be, but there's nothing wrong with that. >> no, i was not criticizing him

about that, i like to see people going out into different communities. >> it's worth a try. and the republican party has a story. you look back to the darkest ages of the segregated south and those politicians defending that here in washington, by and large those defending that were democrats. >> what happened? >> what happened was when the conservative movement took hold it was anti-government intervention in many ways, including in the economy. and blacks came to have the feeling the republican party was a party of rich, white people who were basically against them. barack obama comes along, an african-american, and he has an economic record that's not been good for african americans, but it doesn't matter to them. he is one of theirs and they are deeply proud of him, and understandably so for historic reasons and no republican will get a hearing when he's president. when he's not running and not on the ticket again, maybe it will be different. but the republican party has a

lot of work to do and rand paul gets credit for trying. >> good to see you. >> you bet. >> coming up, they say the north korea threat is very high. a live report from south korea and ambassador john bolton is next. and not any dinner party. republicans senators, and others, what topics of others, what topics of discussion are on the menu? the american dream is of a better future, a confident retirement. those dreams have taken a beating lately. but no way we're going to let them die. ♪ ameriprise advisors can help keep your dreams alive like they helped millions of others. by listening. planning. working one on one. that's what ameriprise financial does. and that's what they can do with you. that's how ameriprise puts more within reach. ♪ it will if it's new outlast stay fabulous foundation. tcan your longwear makeup laste 'til five o'clock?. it's a primer, concealer and foundation in one

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we say test fired s there any indication it's more than test fire that it's pointed at something and not just lob over the top of japan? >> well, obviously we can't really read into the minds of the north korea an leaders, but no one really thinks they would be suicidal enough to provoke a war by deliberately firing a missile at a target. >> you say they are bald and ready to go. it seems to me, if my memory is correct, north korea has fired it's weapons off in the morning hours, and that's, you are about 12 or 13 hours difference right now so it's morning there. is it, when it's fuel and ready to go, is it anything beyond that? any other indication that it could happen any minute? >> well, aside from the missiles of that already been fired, officials believe that more missiles could be fired in the coming days. but as of yet they don't know exactly how many. >> what has been -- what has the president of south korea been saying?

she's a new president. your former president took heat when he didn't respond the south korea an ship was sunk and sailors were lost. what has the new president said about the provocation from north korea? >> the south korea an president, south korea's first woman president, is believed to take a hard-line stance in situations like these, particularly following the two attacks you mentioned in 2010. she retains the defense minister at that time who was known for his hard line policy and his pledge of retal i can't go the next time north korea goes through with an attack like that. >> is there any suggestion about her -- her mother was assassinate bid north korean intelligence in the '70s. any press about that at all, sort of an interesting ant dote. >> it's commonly known her

mother was a victim of north korean television and that could play a part in her hard-line stance. >> jennifer, thank you. we are watching it very carefully from this side of the ocean. thank you, jennifer. >> you're welcome. >> the threats keep coming but what do we real know about north korean leader kim jong un? >> more importantly, we don't know that kim jong un is in charge giving orders to the generals or the generals are giving orders to him or any combination in between. you have an empairial court, the family, the military, the family, and we don't know what the decision making is which makes it that much harder to discern what north korea's intention are. >> we are busy in our life and we make a decision at 18 or 19

whether to go in a military or not. but every north korean since the time of a child is part of the military preparations to fight the united states and to fight south korea. it's a very different mentality than we have on this. >> well, it is. and also, you know, kim jong un is the third in the line of hair red area communist dictators. an unusual way to pick your leaders. but he has no connection with the military. he's never served. even his father had a little bit more credibility with the military. so it's not at all clear that he's really accepted as the real leader or he could be a mouthpiece. we just don't know. >> how powerful, so the military could be running this show and not him? or the party? >> or, look, we shouldn't ascribe for rationality to it than it probably has. it could be competing power centers that are work their way through something. it doesn't make me feel any

better, which which by the way. >> it's worse. >> and coming up april 18th is the 101st birthday of his father and that's just a few days away. do you have any thought whether that could be a time where he might want to show himself, show what he can do? >> that's exactly right. the north koreans love to do something on anniversaries. when they broke an 8 year long moratorium on missile testing in 2006 they picked july 4th just to make us feel good about it. the 101st birthday, i think very logical for a target point. if i were north korean rocket scientists i would want to make sure i had plenty of options, one i would lift the rocket off because a failure on the launchpad is not good for your longevity either. they warned diplomats after the tenth they couldn't protect them, and i think it's propaganda, but it shows what the launch window is, between the 10th and the 15th. >> what is your level of

confidence they can't miniature rise a nuclear weapon to one of these midrange missiles? >> as of today can they do it, i think probably not. >> probably not? >> they are testing and what is significant about this test, they will do it from a me bile launch platform which many something they can move around andet up and launch much more quickly than if they have to put on a launchpad we can see from space. >> i think it's unlikely, as well, but then i think to myself, we come up with this based on dur intelligence gathering but our intelligence gathering about north korea is about zero. >> it's very small. >> we had no notice they would do the tests so why do we think the intelligence is better now on that important question? >> i think when people say that our intelligence shows x, the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. just because we don't know about it doesn't mean it's not going on. for example, what level of cooperation is there between iran and north korea on nuclear weapons testing?

we know they have worked together on ballistics. >> weren't they within toss the last test? the iranians were witnesses. >> exactly. and people talk so confidently what we know about what is going on in iran but we don't know what is going on in north korea, do we? >> it's so uncertain. it's the most bizarre thing. a country we can't penetrate to get information. >> they are used to this, they know we can watch them from space. when they show often is something they want us to see as opposed to something they want to conceal. >> don't i know that. ambassador, nice to see you. >> great to be here. >> straight ahead, a pop test. why does a kindergarten teacher why does a kindergarten teacher dance on more than two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. and every day since, we've worked hard to keep it. today, the beaches and gulf are open for everyone to enjoy. we've shared what we've learned, so we can all produce energy more safely.

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