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>> white house has been exposed through remember licks -- lyrics. >> have a great friday. >> maria stays for after the show show. >> see you monday, everyone. martha: thanks, you guys, great he show. we start with this fox news alert on a chilling new assessment what north korea is capable of doing. brand new united states intelligence report has come out. it says the communist regime could arm a ballistic missile with a nuclear warhead. this is new information. potentially that could put the united states interests in danger and that has everyone concerned this morning. welcome to "america's newsroom", everybody. happy friday to you. good to have you here. i'm martha maccallum. gregg: good morning, martha. i'm gregg jarrett in for bill hemmer. he spoke about the north's barrage of threats directed at the u.s. and our allies.
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>> it is up to kim jong-un what he decides to do. it's, it's not going to change our current position which is very, very clear. we will defend our allies. we will stand with south korea, japan and others, against these threats. and we will defend ourselves. martha: david piper is streaming live from seoul, south korea, just 30 miles from the border of north korea. so, david, what else did john kerry have to say? >> reporter: well, martha, he did say that news conference he reallydown played the fear of nuclear-tipped missiles by north korea at this time. he also offered an olive branch to pongyang. he said the u.s. wanted a peace, not war on the korean peninsula. >> neither the united states nor the republic of korea nor the international community, we are all united in the fact that north korea
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will not be accepted as a nuclear power. the rhetoric that we're hearing from north korea is simply unacceptable by any standard. >> reporter: and, martha, there's also a festival up in north korea today. it was one of those really strange ones and missiles and flowers on show with a huge portrait of the old founder of north korea, kim il-sung. there is a suggestion that if the missile is tested then it will come on the 15th which was his birthday. back to you. martha: the founder's birthday. david, one more question for you. what is coming out of north korea in response to all of this? >> reporter: well, we have, we have had a lot of vitriol over the last few days, particularly yesterday.
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they were talking again about war. so far tonight i haven't actually heard anything but after it comes out on the evening news there, which is then monitored and then proud to us but they haven't really turned it down and i wouldn't be surprise if there is an attack on kerry because he is visiting the south now. back to you. martha: david piper, thank you so much. close to the north korean border. we'll check in with you later. gregg: during a congressional hearing colorado congressman doug land born said what he said was unclassified paragraph from the secret report but inadvertently revealing classified information take the chairman by surprise. >> defense intelligence agency did a study that was finished last month. now while the contents of the study are classified, the conclusions and certain statements are not classified and quoting from the unclassified portion, which i believe has not yet
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been made public, they say, quote, dia assesses with moderate confidence that the north currently has nuclear weapons capable of delivery by ballistic missiles, you ever who the reliability will be low. general, would you agree with that assessment by dia? >> you know, congressman, with the number of caveats you put on the front end of this, i can't touch that one because i'm not sure now, it hasn't been released. some of it is classified and some is unclassified. let me take that for the record. gregg: the pentagon say it wasn't lamborn's fault. somebody at the defense intelligence agency marked memo unclassified, when it was not. martha: that's not good. we'll see where that goes. let's give you a little bit of context what life is like inside north korea the take a look at this picture. a satellite image from nasa. the white chrous terse show use of electricity.
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just 26% of north korea's population has any access to electricity. it is a dark place with a lot of people in prison and a lot of starvation and a tough way of life for so many people in that country. gregg: chilling images from inside the country show how communist leaders are recruiting the next generation. look at this. north korean children stand while waiting, officers tie red bandannas around their neck, all of it part an induction ceremony into the korean union we're told. likened to the hitler youth. they are told to pledge allegiance to kim jong-un who they refer to as father. martha: many of those pictures are similar to the pictures of hitler youth and communist nations are taught at very young age to revere the dear leader in this case north korea. not what we see around here, that is for sure. a very different world, a very different life-style.
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gregg: running the numbers now on president obama latest budget plan t doubles federal debt as a share the economy over six years by 2014, debt will be nearly 80% of the nation's gdp. stuart varney is anchor of "varney & company" on the fox business network. you know, stu, it is getting close to the danger zone of 90%. >> well, look the president uses government spending. that is his policy, to juice up the economy and it is spelled out in his budget. spending will go up in each of the next four years and it will actually hit $4 trillion in the fiscal year 2015. no president has ever spent $4 trillion in one year before. so on the one hand, spending goes straight up. on the other hand, taxes are also going to go up certainly on wealthy people. they have already gone up on
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january the 1st. this budget calls for another trillion dollars to be taken off relatively wealthy people over the next 10 years. so, gregg, spell it out, an increase in spending an increase in taxation. will that produce the rate of growth that we're looking for four or 5%? that is the question surrounding this budget and america's basic finances. gregg: it was only in 2008, stuart, that debt was 40 percent of gdp and soon, it is going to hit 78% and then, according to the budget committee in the senate, when obama's budget goes into effect, if it ever goes into effect and that is a big question mark, it would go 90 and above. here is the effect. take a listen to my conversation with jeff sessions, the ranking member on the senate budget committee. >> there is no doubt in my mind that this large debt that we're not dealing with, is pulling down growth, costing jobs for americans, costings pay raises, costing
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bonuses, costing overtime for people right now and we've got to get out of this path. >> well, gregg, it's a lot like europe. there is a relationship between how much you owe relative to the size of your economy, and how fast that economy can grow and how fast it can produce jobs. we're looking a whole lot more like europe these days and we certainly will in the future. does that mean high levels of unemployment will continue for a long time to come? senator sessions says yes, it will. gregg: it is a jobless recovery here. is this the new norm? >> you can't really call this a robust recovery, can you? gregg: no. >> we have 2% growth. the budget suggests that we'll hit the 3% range. that he is not what we want, 4, 5, 6%. that could let us grow out of some of our problems but it is not in this budget. gregg: stuart varney, as always good to see you. >> gregg. martha: well the real worry here is skyrocketing percentages of u.s. debt
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heaped on the shoulders of taxpayers. today nearly $12 trillion of our debt is held by the public that is about 71% of all-out standing debt. the remainder is from borrowing between government agencies but that public share of the debt, which is something that economists watch really closely has grown more than $8.2 trillion over the past decade and nearly 6 trillion of it has come under president obama. compare that to 2008 when debt held by the public as a share of the gdp was about 41%. so 41 to the 70s during the course of this administration. gregg: well, there is a positive sign in cyprus after that country was on the brink of collapse. reports it could losen restrictions on the banking system in the next few days. last month you may recall the country was saying it was going to dip into personal bank accounts to fund the government. then there was a run on atm and rules on how much money
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you could take out. martha: well the situation in bailed-out greece is going from bad to worse. stunning new unemployment numbers there. look at this, 27.2% unemployment in greece compared to our 7% unemployment rate. greece is struggling through their sixth year of recession now. the e.u. and the imf bailed them out to the tune of nearly $150 billion back in 2010. unemployment in greece is now the highest in the eurozone area although there are many countries that are comparable. i think spain is around 25% right now. the jobless rate for greeks aged 15 to 24 is 59.3%. unemployment across the eurozone is 12%. that is record 19.1 million people out of work in that zone. so a lot of lessons to be learned from mistakes that have been made in western europe. gregg: if only someone would pay attention. we're just getting started right now. demands for answers from the irs today after it says it can search your e-mails.
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they don't need a warrant they say. why congress is now getting involved in this. martha: plus a state of emergency after a deadly tornado tears across mississippi, damaging homes, leaving thousands of people without power today. the danger is not overyet in this area. we'll tell you where these dangerous storms are headed next. gregg: more trouble for the owner of a home swallowed up by a sinkhole. >> what am i going to do? put back in the pond and build a house up above it? when these come together, and these come together, one thing you can depend on is that these will come together. delicious and wholesome. some combinations were just meant to be. tomato soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do.
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martha: well a couple accused of kidnapping their own sons and jumping a boat to cuba will be back in court this morning. a judge will decide whether the parents are going to remain in jail while they await their trial. police say that the hakkens, lost custody of their little boys you see pictured here after the police found the four of them in a hotel room
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with drugs. last week the maternal grandparents who have been taking care of the children were granted custody. the brothers are four and two years old and are now back home with grandma and grandpa. gregg: house lawmakers calling out the irs for possibly violating your privacy. congressman are sending a letter to agency to explain their policy of searching private e-mails without a warrant. well in a statement the irs is saying contrary to some suggestions the irs does not use e-mails to target taxpayers. any suggestion to the contrary is wrong. here is fox business network's charles payne. well apparently the aclu under a freedom of information act got ahold of documents from the irs and yes, they are looking at people's e-mails. you know, the founding fathers were wise and prescient. i want to put up the fourth amendment search and seizure provision. the right of the people to be secure in their persons,
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houses, papers and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated. no warrant shall be issued but upon probable cause. it is at astonishing, isn't it, that the irs can think it can read anybody's e-mails when ever it wants. >> it is beyond astonishing. people have to understand, you know, and separate this from the twitter, facebook stuff, you put that out there, it is for public consumption but we all assume, and i hopefully, when this is all said and done, rightfully, if i send you an e-mail, it is a direct private communication between you and me. one of the problems with this, i send you the e-mail. i can clean it out of the my e-mail box. they say after 180 days if it is still sitting on your server it is free game and open to the public. this is completely outrageous. the idea to suggest it is within the framework of the constitution is nuts. gregg: of course the irs either lying or stonewalling
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we're not quite sure wish. for example, they issued the following statement. respecting taxpayer rights and taxpayer privacy are cornerstone principles for the irs. oh really? then why does the irs handbook claim that the fourth amendment does not protect e-mails, let's put that on the screen because, and reading from the handbook here, internet users do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in such communications. >> also within that statement they released said went on to say our job is to administer the nation's tax laws and do so in a way that follows the law and treats taxpayers with respect. we interpret the law different than you do but we're adhering to it and we'll implement the tax laws. listen, we live in an era, we know, everyone has sort of come to expect our privacy is diminishing. every single day, cameras everywhere you go, e-mail, listening devices. there is almost no up is thing as privacy.
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somewhere along the line this remains some form of security if i know i send you a direct, private personal e-mail it doesn't belong to the public domain. gregg: even the courts weighed in. the sixth circuit court of appeals ruled, look, e-mails are the same as conventional forms of communication, protected by the fourth amendment. unbelievably the special counsel of irs criminal division, sent an e-mail, i have not heard anything related to this opinion. he is the counsel? >> apparently he didn't because they were snooping around e-mails since that decision. either they didn't hear it or didn't care about it that's why the audience needs to care. gregg: go back to law school, mr. general counsel. >> okay. gregg: charles payne. >> see you later. gregg: good to see you. martha? martha: all right, this story getting a lot of attention today. jay-z is now firing back at his critics of the vacation that he took with beyonce in cuba. they are walking down the streets in havana. he has a cigar. but it is all good. a new song suggests that president obama gave him the
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okay. the white house says they have got nothing to do with this trip. a lawmaker weighs in, moments away. >> i am absolutely saying the white house and president on down had nothing to do anybody's personal, anybody's travel to cuba. that is something that treasury handles [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult.
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gregg: snowballs replacing baseballs at target field in minnesota, covered under roughly five inches of very heavy wet snow. the minnesota twins saying they're doing all they can to avoid calling off today's game against the mets. a decision won't be made until midday. meantime dozens of crew are trying to dig out to clear the park. >> i don't agree with y'all.
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politician never did [bleep] to me. except lied to me, distort history. martha: great, right? i'm sure they were really excited when they heard that coming across the wires and blogs yesterday afternoon. jds uniphase see is defending his trip to cuba in the controversial new song. the lyrics suggest that president obama bent the rules for him and beyonce. you heard the part about getting white house clearance. a lot of people talking on both sides of the aisle. some saying the rapper should be denouncing the oppressive cuban regime and not promoting it. a couple lawmakers sent a letter stating quote, every years thousand of cubans flee the oppression of the castro government at great personal risk to themselves. i wish jay-z and beyonce would take a moment to realize their vacation would be used by the castro regime as a propaganda tool, one. lawmakers that signed that letter, mat salmon, on the
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house foreign affairs committee. good to have you this morning. >> thanks, martha. appreciate it. >> what do you think about the song comes out from jay-z? he says in another part of it he, the president says, you know, you're going to get me impeached. maybe we spend time on the beach instead. jay carney said there was no conversation between jay-z and president about the vacation. but it is not going over very well, isn't it. >> i wouldn't mind if the president took a long vacation with jay-z and let us take care of work in the capitol. that would not be a bad idea. martha: we'll pass the idea along. we'll see what the response is. >> thank you. one of the of the other things he said in the rap song let freedom ring. unfortunately in cuba freedom does not ring. one of his colleagues, a cuban rapper is in prison right now because his rap songs are not real positive about the cuban way of life and the cuban government. i just wish that they would have taken the opportunity to go over there and
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highlight some of the major human rights abuses that are happening. beyonce has a tradition of doing some good things across the globe and i just, i think that they could have followed the lead of bono when it comes to trying to highlight some of the travesties that are happening in cuba with the ladies in white. martha: perhaps they would say that in a way they have, you know, in shedding light, drawing attention to cuba, in sort of shining a light to the dark corners you bring attention to the issue. got us talking about it. it has got a lot of people talking about it. perhaps they are doing in some ways bono did using his celebrity to shine a light on place that needs attention. >> if happens in a positive way i think it will happen in spite of what they did instead of what they did. they did not raise these issues when they were over there. and i just really believe that, that, this was a squandered opportunity.
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it appeared to be a little more like what dennis rodman did with north korea than what bono did to try to highlight some of the injustices happening in cuba. this was an opportunity squandered. whether or not the president, you know the president doesn't really admit to anything when things go wrong. i remember when i was starting in business i saw a sign on one of my friend's walls said the guy can smile when things go wrong has already thought of somebody he can blame it on. that is this president's motto. martha: do you expect any response from this letter? >> maybe he will write a rap song for me. i'm sure it won't be very nice. but the fact is, this letter that we sent was a bipartisan letter. a ranking member on my subcommittee over the western hemisphere, very prominent democrat from new jersey cosigned the letter with me. this is not a partisan issue. this is a human rights issue. this was an opportunity for them to step up and be counted and, instead of
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standing up and be counted it a period they were more concerned about cuban cigars than they were cuban miss earlierry. martha: we'll see what the ultimate impact is. congressman, thank very much for being with us. >> thank you. gregg: destroyed by a sinkhole. one person killed in this horrible event but the tragedy is not over yet. how a mortgage company is adding insult to injury. martha: plus there is one vote down, it is a cloture vote down so far in the gun law debate but is congress doing anything to address the true mental health connection to the crimes we have seen? that is the question. we'll address it coming back. also offers ereturn-- our fastest way to return your car. just note your mileage and zap ! you're outta there ! we'll e-mail your receipt in a flash, too. it's just another way you'll be traveling at the speed of hertz.
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martha: well senators voted 68-31 yesterday to move forward with a gun control bill. that was a cloture vote. and it ended chances for now at least of a republican filibuster on this issue but the vote likely teed up a battle that we're going to see played floor next week. while details of all of this are still very unclear in terms of what these universal background checks would actually do, there's a lot of questions about the expanded checks, okay, that might be implemented if this law goes through but would they have stopped the following four tragedies? look how this has been put together for you here. okay? we'll start with adam lanza. all of the guns that were tied to the sandy hook shooter were purchased legally by his mother. he then took the them and used them. we know lanza had a form of autism as well as a disorder that kept him from
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recognizing pain. he was never convicted of any criminal action before this l let's go to james holmes, aurora movie theater massacre suspect. holz purchased his weapons legally at local gun shops but a university of colorado psychiatrist alerted his school about holmes potentially homicidal behavior. they did not act. therefore he was not ruled mentally unfit and would not have come up on a background check for that and therefore he was allowed to buy the guns. let's go to jared lochner, the accused tucson shooter. he also purchased his weapons legally. here is his mental background. arizona police at his community college were alerted to disruptive classroom behavior but a court never declared him mentally unfit. that did not stop him from getting a weapon either. go to the vin goo tech -- virginia tech shooter, cho he was ruled mentally unsound. state law granted him to access to weapons because he
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had never been hospitalized even though he was found to be mentally under sound. we're joined by dr. keith ablow who has written a fantastic piece about the holes in this whole conversation when it comes to mental health. he is a forensic psychiatrist and a member of the fox news medical a-team. dr. keith ablow, good to have you with us this morning. >> thanks, martha. martha: where are the holes here? we talk about background checks, right? >> yes. martha: if you can't connect the dots here there is no stopping these guys. >> exactly right. what all this gun legislation, restricting firearms or increasing background checks fails to address is the real problem which is untreated mental i will el ness and a mental health care system that is completely severed from anything like the ability to deliver outpatient services on an as-needed basis, sometimes involuntary littlely. we have allowed our mental
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health care system to become decrepit. people are falling through gaping holes in the system. it really has nothing to do with guns as we just saw in the mass stabbing in texas. and as we should have learned in 1927 when 38 children were killed with home-made explosives at a school. this whole debate should be filibustered right off the senate floor. people shouldn't show up for the debate because it is just a sideshow. martha: talk to me a little bit how we can sort bridge the gap, right? you have mental health professionals out there who are seeing, as we mapped out very clearly issues that they're really concerned about. now for every, you know, how many people, every 20 people that walk through your office who you think might have violent tendency, maybe, i don't know what percentage, very small percentage ever turns out to be one of guys on the screen. >> absolutely right. martha: how do you prevent the dangerous ones from being able to purchase a gun or explosive for that matter? >> well we need to build a
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real system. luckily we have most of the elements of that system already in place such that, if i were to see somebody in my office or if a teacher were to see a student in her classroom who aroused that kind of level of concern, it ought to be clear to whom do you make the call? perhaps it's a community mental health center, crisis team. they need to have a very, and they exist but they need a very clear root to the court where someone can review, a judge, with a lawyer present for the person who has been identified, and all these elements exist. we're just not using them. martha: right. >> so that person can then be in forced-on parity care. if they are deemed to be unappropriate for firearm, that could be put on their universal background check. >> all right. so are psychologists and psychiatrists feeling they don't have that power? are they afraid there will legal backlash against them? that someone will be deemed unfit who isn't?
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that's a big issue here, right? >> absolutely. the states, nor the federal government have made clear to psychiatrists, neither has made clear to psychiatrists, psychologists, social workers, teachers, the police, anyone else how that system ought to work. how the gates should open to alou people to get the help they need if they're dangerous. that needs to be built, just the communication system. secondly we have to admit the mental health care system is broken yes which is were why these things are happening. third party insurers are so severely restricting mental health care dollars, if they did it with diabetes you would have people fainting in the streets with hypogly seem mao. it is criminal. a third party hmo should not be restricting number of days those folks spend in hospital. that conversation should be prohibited. martha: as you point out in your street which i urge everybody to read, we've
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shut down all the mental institutions as well, so many of them there snimly isn't a place for some people who are clearly not to fit, you know, to live out among everybody in society. i hope we continue as we watch the legislation go forward dr. keith ablow. it is so important. thanks very much for being with us. we'll see you soon. >> martha, thank you so much. take care. martha: all right. gregg: one group of very kind-hearted volunteers providing new hope for victims of superstorm sandy. molly line is live in boston. molly? >> reporter: hey, gregg. well burlington, very month is a long way from the jersey shore and a long way from new york. when joan saw the storm-ravaged victims of superstorm sandy and the struggle gls to care for their pets, she knew she had to get involved. >> no, sit. >> i thought there was probably a need for temporary shelter for the dogs, to help the pet owners, which is a little bit different than typical dog
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rescue. typical dog rescue is all about helping the dogs. >> reporter: shannon founded sandy dog nannies an organization that fosters dogs. her efforts couldn't come at better time for debbie blair. like so many, she lost almost everything in the storm. >> there is such a peace of mind, you know that i have, i know my dog is safe and being well-taken care of. and the dogs pick up on all our stress as well. so she was removed from all the craziness that was going on in my house, and it was just a blessing. >> come on. >> reporter: sandy dog nannies paired debbie and herter remember with jesse in manhattan, a self-described dog lover. she was initially hoping to find someone else to foster jesse when she decided to open up her own home to the 11-year-old hound. >> i guaranteed them the dog would be well-taken care of. i wanted them to take care of their needs. >> reporter: it will be months, in some cases years
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before some of the homes and neighborhoods are fully rebuilt. in the meantime fema says there are still hundreds of people in hotels and motels. thus far, nearly two dozen docks have been placed in temporary homes that need help. you can get more information on that going to fox news.com, reading your blog and going to facebook where you can take a peek at sandy dog nan necessary of vermont web page. back to you. gregg: a great, great idea. good for them. again we'll have more information on our website. not a lot there right now but later on today, check it out. we'll have a lot more for you and some contact information, how you can help victims of superstorm sandy. foxnews.com for more information. molly, thanks very much. martha: we've to the another round of severe storms that left behind a mess. we've got brand new video coming in of the damage and where the threat is moving right now. gregg: and president obama warning north korea to stop with the threats. but is there more the obama administration should and
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martha: see this last night? a bench clearing brawl broke out between the dodgers and padres. it started with a wild pitch from dodger pitcher zack grienke. watch this. oh, they're going at it. there goes the benches. both are out in the middle of the field. grienke ended up with a broken collarbone at end of all this. the two reportedly confronted each other out in the parking lot and security had to separate them out there. there it is. baseball season underway.
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gregg: back to our top story now. the north core reason nuclear threat. president obama meeting with united nations secretary-general ban ki-moon yesterday. both expressed concerns about the rising tension on the korean peninsula. the president later issuing this warning to unpredictable regime. >> now is the time for north korea to end the kind of belligerent approach that they have been taking and to try to lower temperatures. gregg: julie roginsky, a former political advisor to new jersey democratic senator frank lautenberg. mary katharine ham joins us, editor-at-large for hotair.com. both are fox news contributors. good to see you both. >> good morning. gregg: julie, is there something the white house should and could be doing in addition to say, oh, behave? >> i don't know the answer to that. almost every white house for the past 60 years have been
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trying to do something to deal with the kim dynasty. nothing seems to work going back all the way to harry truman. you have the bush administration doing carrot and stick approach. clinton administration doing the carrot-and-stick approach. the obama administration is doing the same thing. seems around since 1990 the first george bush administration when they started developing nuclear capability they seemed to sort of have the bellicose statements they put out in order to get some sort of concessions from the west, from the other six partner talks and it's the same cycle over and over again. i don't know what there is to be done really, gregg. gregg: mary katharine ham, one thing that was done is that the white house, the president, canceled apparently the icbm minuteman test that had been planned to try to diffuse the situation. does that reflect weakness? >> well, yeah, much like julie i'm not going to pretend there is an easy answer here. why with iran and
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north korea, these sort of nations we're not sure what their endgame is, people, five plus six talks sound like algebra equations for so many years because there is not an easy answer. it is not necessarily easy to know what to do. what not to do i think is to respond to bellicose language by basically, doing what makes the rogue nation happy which is us kind of backing down. i don't think that that is a smart way because that seems to encourage more bellies coast behavior. kerry of course just got to south korea saying north korea nuclear, north korea is unacceptable. this is, despite the fact we cecilly pictures come out of north korea and low end technology we have this intelligence report yesterday that was, perhaps accidentally declassified that said, sure, look they have the capability to attach a nuclear weapon to a ballistic missile. this is not an unserious situation. gregg: julie, let me pick up
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on that. that essentially came from a congressman and defense intelligence agency says, yes the north can put a nuke on top of a ballistic missile. the white house says, we have no evidence of that. is it a little disturbing the intelligence community works for the president seems to be on a completely different page on a matter of vital importance? >> well, you know, i don't know to the extent of their telling us everything that we want to hear or need to hear because it is a matter of intelligence. i'm not going to pretend to know what the strategy there is. none of us really can. gregg: the president says no nuke or at least the white house is saying no nuke on top of a missile but the defense intelligence agency says, oh, yeah. >> depends what kind of delivery system it has. is it intercontinental ballistics missile? is it short-range ballistic missile. gregg: even if it is short-range can hit 30,000 american troops stationed in the dmz. >> exactly right. i don't know the answer to that question. what i do know you're
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dealing with a young kid, for lack of a better description of this kim jong-un who either has something to prove to the generals who are generation if not two generations older than he is, something to prove to the rest of the world. that is what is troubling to me. gregg: are you troubled, mary catherine, that the dia says one thing and the white house says something completely different about a nuclear weapon on the top of a missile. >> i think the white house is downplaying the report. that is not consensus of all the intelligence agencies as we understand it. we'll see more reporting next couple days and we'll probably get more clear picture what is going on. we're not messing around despite the fact that the white house can say or intelligence agency can say we're not sure how far the missile can go, that is not super comforting to south korea or guam or place it is might hit. we have to rely on neighbors like china who have not been terribly helpful in the past to tamp this down. >> very short distances between the north and the south and japan and our base in guam.
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it is worrisome. julie, mary catherine, good to see you both. >> good to see you. >> thanks. martha: speaking out for the first time what happened during this deadly bus accident and the good samaritan who rushed into help. gregg: plus growing questions about border security as a senate group wraps up a new immigration bill. the new information suggesting that the border isn't as safe as the white house claims. [ man ] excuse me miss. [ gasps ] this fiber one 90 calorie brownie has all the deliciousness you desire. the brownie of your dreams is now deliciously real. how old is the oldest person you've known?
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what am i going to do? put steel out here in the road and back in a pond and build a house up above it? he says, i don't have anymore money to give you. i know they are trying to squeeze blood out of a turnip. i know that but, this turnip don't have anymore blood in him. gregg: 37-year-old jeff bush was killed when the sinkhole suddenly opened underneath his bedroom. his family was renting the home at the time. martha: congress moves to begin debate on stricter gun control legislation there is new fallout from a texas grad student's plan to give away 20 gauge shotguns as part of the an experiment to measure the impact of firearms in the hands of law-abiding citizens in high crime areas. casey stiegel is live in dallas. how does the program work? >> reporter: martha, the first of all the program is not unique it texas. the director tells us once
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news circulated around houston it became so popular it started to expand in other cities like in dallas, in tucson, arizona, indianapolis, chicago, detroit and new york. it is called the armed citizens project and it identifies high-crime neighborhoods in those cities by looking at police stats. they raise money to buy shotguns to then hand out. eligible residents must pass a background check first and complete the state-mandated firearms training. >> what our organization is doing, we are creating new responsible gun owners. we're giving them training. we're conducting background checks. we're giving out shotguns and so all of these really should be palatable to that crowd that claims that they support the right of self-defense and that they support the second amendment. >> reporter: upwards of 100 households will be armed in each of those cities, martha. martha: certainly has its critics though as well, right? >> reporter: yeah, absolutely. certainly there are those
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who say fighting crime is certainly no the going to be done by adding more guns out on the streets. one person calling this, a sick, social experiment. a lawmaker down in tucson is outraged, calling the idea, reckless. we spoke to a houston-area attorney and radio talk show host who fears the number of accidental shootings and suicides will go up if these guns get into the wrong hands. >> what he should really be thinking about what it will look to look into the eyes of parents, once one of those guns falls into the wrong hands or once one of the guns accidentally discharges or kills or maims an innocent child. >> reporter: the pro project director does not see it as a social experiment. it is rather, a charitable organization. martha? martha: interesting. casey, thanks very much. gregg: bombshell new reports that north korea is capable of arming a missile with a nuclear warhead. how the united states is
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you're with us, in for bill hemmer. law enforcement officials are now saying this investigation quote, unquote is moving along. there are even some people of interest that the fbi is either interested in speaking with or already has talked to. here's a clip of the recordings in question. >> she is emotionally unbalanced. we have the documents, go chapter and verse from her autobiography she suffered suicidal tendenciess. hospitalled for 42 days. she had a mental breakdown. martha: molly henneberg live from washington with more on the story that started to break yesterday afternoon. molly, a lot of focus on one particular group called progress kentucky. tell us about them and why they would be into this? >> reporter: hi, martha. one leader of the democratic party in kentucky is trying to get out in front of this and telling fox news to look at that liberal group, progress kentucky, which says its main goal to defeat republican minority leader
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mitch mcconnell. jacob conway with the jefferson county democratic party in kentucky told fox two of his friend with progress kentucky, allegedly made that recording. conway said to fox, quote, i don't know why they were there at the grand opening of his, meaning mcconnell's campaign office but they were there after the event had ended and they were in the hallway and you know, they heard the conversation going on. it was an extremely tacky conversation to me but it was a private conversation nonetheless. and i guess once they heard the tasteless things the mcconnell team were discussing they decided to record it. and they told me about later that day, either that day or the next and they told me about it and i didn't think much of it. conway is speaking out now so that the democratic party is not tarnished in this scandal. martha. martha: very interesting. the mart we are learning the fbi is involved and where is the investigate stand and where do we think it will go? >> reporter: fbi conducted
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interviews and gone to mcconnell's campaign office at least twice. fbi has pulled tapes at the site of the private meeting where the see credit recording was made. mcconnell's campaign aides say there is not a video camera outside of the room that was taking place but there is camera in the lobby who could have recorded coming into the secure building and who may have made that recording. otherwise the mcconnell campaign says it is leding the fbi probe running its course. they're also trying, to figure out who made the recordings and if any laws were broken. martha: a lot of big questions on this one. molly, thank you very much. gregg: the so-called "gang of 8" senators saying they may be ready to introduce their immigration bill as soon as next week to keep our borders safe. but new videos show the border may not be as secure as the obama administration has been claiming. william la. >> necessary live from -- la jeunesse is live from los angeles. what is really going on down
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there at the border? >> reporter: one concern of law make,, gregg is trust. that the administration is not being concise or honest about border security fearing it would jeopardize that immigration reform deal. so this group of concerned citizens are filling the void they say, recording activity on the arizona-mexico border. >> we haven't been in the area for several hours. we're getting inundated where we're at. >> this is on 4. you have targets out there. >> are you kidding me. we broke a record. >> reporter: for all the talk in washington about border security, this is not a picture you're seeing. pictures of illegal immigrants streaming into the u.s. some carrying waters. others are carrying drugs. >> left side of the bird. >> reporter: the images are captured by a group of private citizens who operate a web site called secure border of intelligence. they hide cameras. motion activated and designed to catch wildlife. they catch illegal
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immigrants near, nogales, arizona. they report conversations between border patrol pilots and those on the ground. >> group 21. the south side. >> we'll need another person over here. we have 50 bodies out there. >> what is your plan on the group of 20 or so outstanding? >> we have a group of 37. >> reporter: the evidence support what border agents tell us. fencing in arizona border cities, simply pushed illegal immigrant traffic farther out where it is harder to stop. >> certain sections of that sector, we still have a trouble some situation. a lot more people getting through than we thought. >> reporter: no one expects to seal the border but acceptable number of illegal entries or got aways after agreeing to legalize 12 million people already here. that is the question on capitol hill. the group is simply presenting reality. the administration is not. gregg: william la jeunesse in l.a. william, thanks. america's border enforcement by the numbers now. the united states spends
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about $18 billion on immigration enforcement just last year. that is more than the combined budgets of the fbi, the atf, the dea and the secret service. the department of homeland security is employing more than 41,000 people and spending 12 billion annually on the border security. the number about of u.s. border patrol agents, more than doubling over the past decade, climbing to more than 21,000. martha: extreme weather alert now. we have got powerful sprng storms to blame for at least three deaths from the midwest to the southeast. look at this monster twister caught on tape in mississippi. watch. >> look at that. look at the cows running. sudden move to the left. >> it is coming towards us a little bit. martha: wow, look at that scene. that storm destroyed mobile homes, uprooted trees, flipped over an 18 wheeler in one instance.
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meteorologist maria molina has been all over these storms. she joins us with the latest. welcome back, maria. >> martha, good to see you. this is associated with a strong cold front that basically started to impact the west coast on monday. now it is friday and we're tracking the storm system producing areas of rain across the northeast even down into the carolinas. i want to show you first the severe weather we saw between thursday afternoon and friday morning. mostly through the overnight hours. we have reports of damaging wind gusts and tornados and across parts of kentucky, the carolinas, georgia, all the way down into the parts of the florida panhandle and southwestern louisiana. so a pretty wide area that saw severe weather. nine reported tornados into including sections in mississippi, and alabama. kemper county heavy damage reported. trees down. power lines down and unfortunately fatalities from that area. f-0 was confirmed in southeastern louisiana, tammany parish.
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trees uprooted and see images of damage out of alabama. incredible stuff. unfortunately this is the time of the year you do tend to see severe weather, during the month of april, during the month of may and during the month of june. those are the three active months for severe weather. we could possibly see more scenes like this as we head into the next several months. as far as today goes the severe weather risk is very limited. we have strong storms in parts of north carolina. tornado watches have lifted in area. on the northern side. system something we're talking about, record snow over sections of the midwest. we're seeing more snow. up to a foot of snow across the sections of up in michigan. winter warm advisory in effect. in new england, martha, winter weather is falling out here as well. martha: boy, oh, boy. spri you? we recognize it some of it but the snow is much. coming across the wire moments ago. a popular memorial day
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tradition could be a casualty of the sequester it, the federal budget cuts. fleet week may not have a fleet, folks. this is a huge annual event, now in its 26th year. navy ships from around the world sail into new york harbor bringing thousands of sailors to the big apple. boy, do they have have a good time when they're here. gregg: yeah. martha: they dream from the water. this is folks from days past. we hear they may not have funding to bring carriers in because of the sequester it. you have the white house tours. you have got the blue angels. and now potentially cancellation of fleet week. gregg: yeah. martha: i always look forward to fleet week. you see them stream across. we're in midtown. the ships all dock out on the hudson river. sailors sort of stream into new york city and they're just all so happy to be here. it is a big sign of the beginning of summer. gregg: you wan watch it on the waterfront or go on the intrepid. we invite people to check out the intrepid. martha: unless nobody comes.
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the intrepid will always be here. so we'll see. gregg: a push for gun control passing a key vote in the senate. chris wallace on whether the sweeping legislation passed in the senate pass as chance of passing in the house. martha: chance to play the slots went horribly wrong. meet a good samaritan who put his own life at risk to save others what turned out to be a deadly bus crash. gregg: seven months since the terrorist attack in our u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. a mother's emotional letter about the son she lost. we'll talk to her about the search for answers. >> the security in benghazi was a struggle and remained a struggle throughout my time there the situation remained uncertain and reports from some libyans indicated it was getting worse. diplomatic security remained weak. in april there was only one u.s. diplomatic security agent stationed there.
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gregg: fox news alert out of greensboro, north carolina. a college campus there is on lockdown. it is north carolina a&t university. there is a report that a man carrying a rifle has been seen on campus. the university has now instituted a lockdown. they're telling everybody to stay inside, close and lock your doors and windows as well. we have a fox news crew on the way. so we'll update you as we get the information. martha: back to d.c. now and house republican leaders saying they will not take any action on gun control until the senate comes up with their bill first. here is house speaker john boehner. >> i fully expect that the house will act in some way, shape or form. but, to make a blanket commitment without knowing what the underlying bill is i think would be irresponsible on my part. martha: senators voting to move forward with a gun control bill. they had a cloture vote
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yesterday. we'll see what happens in the coming weeks. happy to be joined this morning as always by chris wallace on a friday, the anchor of "fox news sunday.". good morning, chris. >> good morning, martha. martha: boy, there is a lot on the plate for congress. when you look at immigration. when you look at this gun bill coming through and they have the pet's budget to deal with. start with the gun legislation. what do you think happens in the house and what will you talk about this weekend on this? >> first of all what will happen in the senate. they did beat the filibuster and they will get to the various bill and various issues in the bill. clearly the gun, assault weapons ban is going to fail. pretty clearly the limit on magazine clips is going to fail. the one thing that is really out there is the expanded background checks. we have this compromise between two senators, one democrat, one republican, the manchin-toomey compromise would not make it universal but would expand the background check to all commercial sales, gun shows, internet sales.
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when there is advertisement in the newspaper but not between friend or family. and, look, we don't know for sure that is going to pass. so, i think part of what you just heard from john boehner is, he is saying look, we had a lot of tough votes in the house. we're looking to 2014. if it doesn't get you there the senate we have nothing to vote on. we'll wait and see what they give us. it will face a tougher go in the senate, rather than in the house, rather, obviously with a republican majority. but it would be pretty tough. i think this is what the gun control advocates are counting on, including the president, if they can get a bipartisan compromise, even if it is just on expanded background checks through the senate, it puts a lot of pressure on the house to do something. in a sense, and you hear this from people on both sides, either the president gets a victory on this issue or gets an issue he can take to the voters in 2014. martha: that is exactly what i was going to ask you about because no doubt all these congressman and
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congresswomen are calculate wlag this would mean for them in 2014. there seems to be widespread support for passing something on background checks in most of the polls we have seen but this would be a very tough vote for a lot of these people that are up for election. >> but remember this, even if, and a lot of people doubt the polls and even if the polls are right, 80, to 90% nationwide support the idea of expanded background checks, if you're a republican conservative congressman in a, in your red state district, that probably is not the case. it may be 60 or 70% against. so you got to make a calculation of what the national view is and the amount of pressure and money that can be brought to bear by democrats against you in a campaign versus what your constituents think. also quite frankly the possibility if you vote for it you will have a primary fight for more conservative republican saying you voted to restrict your second
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amendment rights. martha: it will be a tough race for many of these candidates. >> absolutely. martha: chris, thank you very much. >> can i quickly say we'll have our guest on sunday marco rubio, who will unveil the "gang of 8"'s immigration reform plan on "fox news sunday." this is a big deal. he is all-in. it has tough border enforcement. it does have a path to legalization and even to citizenship. he will explain it and we will give him the criticisms that he is hearing and that he will hear from both the right and the left and get his response. martha: that will be great. huge issue. marco rubio coming up on "fox news sunday." chris, thanks. we'll see you then. >> you bet. gregg: meanwhile following this breaking news story out of greensboro, north carolina. a college campus is on lockdown now, north carolina a&t university, agriculture and tech university. reports of a man, black male, seen carrying a rifle on campus there. the university has announced a lockdown. everybody should stay inside, close and lock your doors
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and windows. let's get the latest from susan daniel son, who is the public information officer for the police department in greensboro, north carolina. and i apologize, her phone line just dropped off. this is in greensboro, north carolina. there you see the map. this is not anywhere near some of the other, duke university, north carolina, n.c. state and is forth. this is west of that area, that region and, reports of a man carrying a rifle on campus. we have no information whether shots have been fired or if there are any casualties there. but the latest information is that the university put everybody on lockdown. we have a fox news crew that is racing to the scene there but it will take them about half an hour. we'll try to update as we get more information on this but latest in a series of school lockdowns. this one at the north carolina a&t university. martha: yeah. this is roughly between winston-salem and
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raleigh-durham on the way in between those two areas. lots of colleges in that area. of course you know, you talk about guns and we were just finishing a conversation with chris wallace moments ago. there are so many issues out there that are looking to prevent exactly what we saw in so many of these horrific scenes in newtown and other places. obviously it is a very concerning situation when you hear this crossing the headlines and that is that they have reported a man with a rifle on that campus. the only information that they have right now we're being told is being posted on website. we are working to get somebody on the phone to talk more about it. so far what we can tell you. this is north carolina state a and t university and two guilford county schools are on lockdown. they're close enough to the area and they're concerned about students in that area as well. we said a black man was scene carrying a rifle on campus. that is the report we're getting. that is the website you're seeing on the screen right
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now. we're told everybody has been urged to stay indoors. lock your windows, lock your doors, is the urgent message that has been sent to the students and faculty on this campus right now. university police received a report, this is coming from an update on the website of an unknown black male with a weapon in the area of the general classroom building. no shots have been fired is the latest information. the unknown suspect, approximately 5'11", wearing a blue jacket, blue jeans, blue cap and white t-shirt. the university police department is the conducting a campus-wide search on this they will be giving us an update as well. we'll stay on top of the breaking news that we are following, a developing situation in greensboro, north carolina. more coming up on that on the other side of this break as well. in the meantime, the pentagon giving an alarming new assessment about north korea and that has raised fears about their potential nuclear capability. a little bit of a difficult story coming from the
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gregg: well, a grim reminder about the dangers of texting while driving a college student in colorado was typing a message last month when his car strayed into the oncoming traffic. he was killed in the crash. his final words were never sent. his parents now releasing that unfinished message. it reads, quote, sound good, my man. see you soon. they hope it will convince other people to resist the urge to text while driving. martha: well the pentagon has now released an intelligence report that find that north korea has increased its military capability to the point where it could put a nuclear warhead on a ballistic missile. this as secretary of state kerry landed in south korea
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to meet with one of our biggest allies in asia of course, a very central player in this entire scenario. i'm joined by mike baker, former cia covert operations officer and president of diligence, llc, a global intelligence and security firm. good morning, mike. good to have you here. >> good morning. martha: you have mixed messages here. this intelligence report that came out and sort of perhaps, spoken when it shouldn't have been in this public hearing yesterday, that claims that, yes, indeed, it used to be a question mark but they say they could launch a missile that had a nuclear warhead on it. the white house is sort of downplaying that side of the story. who should we believe? what do you make of this? >> well, i mean, first and foremost, you alluded to it. their representative discussed this dia, the defense intelligence agency report. he went some lengths to say, look, this unclassified section of what is actually a classified report. so he is discussing
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something he really shouldn't have been discussing in a public forum. but the problem that seeing with sort of the mixed messages as you put it, is a lack of clarity, a lack of human intelligence. not to say that we don't have signals intelligence, you know, satellite coverage. we've got other sources of intelligence. what we don't have is again, we're lacking the humint that can provide more clarity on this matter so we can make sounder decisions where to go with this. martha: given that, what do you do? >> well, i mean i think the first thing we have to do is realize that, i don't want to oversimplify this but when we're talking about does north korea have the capability to put a nuclear weapon on a long-range missile as opposed to a short-range missile, we have to understand that it's kind of a moot point because we've been kicking the can down the road to this point of this discussion if we continue to behave in the same fashion, if we continue with the same policies, then eventually, yes they will.
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of course that he's what they're doing. the other part of the equation is china. we need a come to jesus meeting with china. i don't think the administration is ready to take a tough stance with them. they are the only player that can bring north korea back into the box, without that effort, without china taking this seriously we'll continue to have this same sort of pattern of behavior from north korea. even if we diffuse this current crisis. martha: what is in china's best interests? and if you were to sit down and have the come to jesus discussion with them, what would you say, mike?. >> we have to understand they're upset with us on a variety of reasons. they're upset because we're calling them out on the constant cyber attacks and constant espionage over the years. there are reasons why i think they are not so quick to rein in north korea. again they're the only player capable of doing that. i think we need to sit down with them and explain to them in no uncertain terms this is unacceptable. we have to take a stronger
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stance. we're not going to, what are we going to do? we can't ignore the situation because of the nuclear and ballistic capabilities. we can't hig it out with north further cree. not -- north korea. not we will have to open a dip late mat tick channel and address this behavior. the only way we want to do that is through china. we have so limited options here and china has to get on board with this. martha: all right. >> for whatever reason they're not right now. and i think we need to do a better job understanding what their agenda is in this game. martha: secretary of state john kerry has his work cut out for him. mike, thank you very much. >> thank you. gregg: the speaker of the house has pretty harsh words for the president's new budget plan. what the republicans say is their plan to solve america's growing debt problem. >> you can't portray a budget as a compromise when it ignores the spending problem here in washington. house and senate budget committees have looked at
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student who said that they believed that there was a man on campus who looked to be carrying a rifle. i'm joined now by susan daniel son, public information officer for the police department in greensboro, she is on her way to the campus to get a little more information. susan, what do you know so far? >> this is a preliminary report. it has not been confirmed at this point. greensboro police are assisting public safety officials at north carolina a&t conducting a search of some of the areas that we believe may be affected. martha: according to the earlier report they say he was seen in the kwraeur o area of the general classroom building. no shots fired. a suspect 5'11", wearing a blue jacket, blue cap, blue jeans. the student who report etd this i would think the police are talking to him and get tkaoeg tails. anything else we've heard about the student? >> we don't have much information about the caller.
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we have no reports of injuries at this point. it's pretty standard protocol for police departments to assist university officials when they have these types of reports. martha: it sounds like the student has done exactly what you're supposed to do. they saw something, and they said something, and it's being investigated and we are glad that there are no reports of injuries. susan, thank you. we'll get more information on this as it comes in. >> thank you much. gregg: now to the budget battle in washington. two days after the president sent his budget plan to congress we are no closer to a grand bargain, the white house pointing to proposed tax hikes an entitlement reforms saying both side will have to compromise. house speaker bone john boehner says it's not a serious solution. take a listen. >> the president calls this his compromise budget. but his bottom line is this. my way or the highway. if that's the case i'm not very optimistic. the president and i weren't able to reach an agreement last year
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because every offer he made was skewed in favor of higher taxes. this plan is no exception. gregg: congressman randy forbes joins us he serves on the house armed services anjou dish airy committees. congressman good to sigh. republicans on the budget committee have crushed the tphuplts and they said president's budget does this. 1.1trillion in new taxes, 8.8 trillion in new debt. 964billion in new spending. here is the number that is critical, only 59 billion in actual deficit reduction. in return for all of that the president is willing to make an adjustment on social security's cost of living increase. he calls it a compromise, is it? >> it's not, gregg. as you know the president is too late. he got his budget in, he delayed getting it in. the house had already passed their budget, the senate had already passed their budget. for the most part his document is a political document but it does three things. it shows us first of all his addiction to raising taxes,
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1.1 trillion, and part of that, gregg, remember is capping the deductions for charitable deductions and mortgage introductions. and we always know if you're in washington the first thing help do is cap it, they come back next here and the next year and do away witness all together. the small reduction he has would come after he left office for some other future president. i don't think you could even get a majority of democrat has would vote for his budget right now. gregg: if the president were willing to agree to raise the retirement age on future retirees for both social security and medicare would republicans be willing to concede on the i shall you've increased -- issue of increased revue? >> you've got to have an over-all package. if the president would come to the table with serious discussions we'll listen to anything he seriously puts on the table. what you can't do is come back with these crumbs he's trying to do on reductions in spending, and these huge hikes in taxes
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and expect it to be taken seriously. if he comes up with any proposals that are serious proposals at reducing the spending we see in washington, on trying to get a handle on our spobts we will listen to that and give it a fair hearing. gregg: you referred to huge tax hikes. the president characterizes it differently. he is proposing that households with income taxes of more than a million dollars pay at least 30% in taxes, 30%. now you're talking about less than 1% of taxpayers. what is wrong with that? >> i think there's two things. first of all you're talking about overall tax increases of about $1.1 trillion, haoupblg huge numbers. it normally equates to jobs and costs us jobs when we do it. the third thing to remember is that all these are always first steps that they do. as i mentioned doing away with the charitable deduction and the
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mortgage introduction it starts by him coming in and saying let's put a cap but the president continually moves the goal post. next year he'll be back and say, okay let's do away with those deductions all together. it's what he did in january when he was talking about revenue increases, he said let's raise the revenue we'll be done with that then we'll talk about spending, as soon as the ink was dry he was talking about raising more revenue. gregg: the white house is admitting that interest payments will rice from 222 billion this year to 804 billion in ten years. how is that manageable, sustainable, and doable? >> it is absolutely not manageable, and that's why we've been trying to tell the white house, if you remember when the president did his stimulus package $825 billion, $347 billion in interest waoerbgs told people when they did it it would come off of the backs of national defense. if you look at the amounts the president has cut out of national defense it was an exact
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overlay of what that stimulus bill was. you can't spend that money two and three times and expect not to pay the huge debts and that is what is coming back to roast for the american people. gregg: congressman randy forbes, great to see you. >> thank you very much. have a great day. martha: honoring a trailblazer how the story of how jackie robinson broke the color barrier and made it to the big leagues, hits theaters today. this is really a hotly anticipated movie. banjulie banderas as that and other stories buzz out there today. i was picturing a great sunday afternoon with my kids at the movie theater. how is it looking? >> reporter: it's out today in theaters. starring harrison ford and newcomer chadwick bosman. ford shaved his head and wore a wig and fat suit to transform himself into executive branch ricky. jackie robinson day is
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celebrated on july 15th. he broke a major league baseball color barrier in 1947. then there were five, five ladies that is. it seems at least two of the "american idol" judges saw this one coming. >> i'm happy that he lasted this long. he's just -- those girls are just so good, it's just the girls as time. it's the girls' season. >> reporter: and speaking of ladies, can we call her a lady? i hate to say it but lindsay lohan is making entertainment news again this morning not for her movie or for arriving drunk but for showing up 30 minutes late to her own premiere last night. she rushed down the red carpet for stkaeu scary movie 5. when a throng of photographers called her name she replied,
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jesus. a member of her entourage says she is really happy to be here. maybe she is cranky about the 90-day rehab stay. martha: she castigated david letter man for not knowing the date she is supposed to show up. maybe it will work this time. >> reporter: her own father doesn't think it's going to work. her family doesn't seem to be really rooting for her. all of america seems to enjoy watching the roller coaster that is lindsay lohan. martha: i don't know if i enjoy it or not. she is so talented as a young girl, and it it would be great to see her get her act together. we'll see. >> reporter: all right. martha: jewel lie, thank you. maybe a little movie action over the weekend. gregg: so appropriate she is in a scary movie. martha: it's like the story of her life. gregg: talk about tao*eu typecasting.
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it has been seven long months since a terror attack on our consulate in benghazi. we will talk to a mother about the search for answers after her son and three others david. >> he comes here and gets ambassador stevens from his bedroom and brings him along with shaun smith to this room in the save haven, really aside from medicine and other supplies, a big, dark, window lest closet -- window less closet. arigato! we are outta here! finding you the perfect place. hotels.com.
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martha: the mother of a benghazi victim is now demanding answers in the terror attack at our u.s. consulate in libya. and this is seven months later now since the pictures that we're showing you on the screen, from september 11th. this is a picture of her son, shaun smith, was one of four americans who were murdered that night. president obama promised justice in -- for their deaths and a thorough investigation, and in a
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letter to republican congressman frank wolf patricia smith writes this. please, please, help me find out who is responsible and fix it so no more of our sons and daughters are abandoned by the country they love, she writes. patricia smith joins me now, patricia, welcome, good to have you here this morning. >> hi. martha: you know, describe for me what was told to you by the president and secretary of state hillary clinton and the then defense secretary leon panetta when you went on that sad, must have been the most painful day of your life to receive the casket of your son, what did they say to you? >> they said that they would find out what happened and get back to me. because i told them, i have to know. they all promised me. martha: and how have they followed up on that? what attempts have you made to find out what they have learned? how has that gone?
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>> nobody has got even back to me at all, not one word, other than one clerk called me and started reading me from the timeline, which i already had, and that was it. martha: i know you are hoping that there will be a select committee put in place, and congressman wolf has been leading that charge. do you think that -- what do you think that would accomplish, and is that your only hope that remains of finding out what happened, and trying to prevent that from happening to anybody else in our consulates and embassies? >> well, i don't know what goes on over there, and i personally don't care all that much. all i do know is the way that they were treated, and the reaction that was given to them by our government. and i don't know what happened. i do know my son is dead. i found that out because they
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called me at 12:30 in the morning and said, by the way, your son is dead. martha: who called you? >> i didn't even know he was in benghazi. martha: who called you with that call, patricia? >> what was that? martha: who called you that night? >> i don't know. martha: you don't know. talk to me a little bit about what he told you, because he gave you warning signs before that, and we should also point out as you mention in your letter that your son was in special operations in okinawa before he joined the state department and you know the life that these folks live and as you point out you didn't know i was in benghazi, not because you didn't keep tabs on him but you weren't allowed to have all the information on his whereabouts. >> that's true. he gave you the standard line, mom, if i told you, i'd have to shoot you. martha: and, you know, he did tell you things that he was concerned about, though. he talked about people taking pictures near where he was. >> oh, yeah. martha: share that with us, patricia. >> i talked to him on the phone, and he said, mom, a little
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earlier today they were taking pictures out in the yard over here, there was somebody, one of the terrorists, i guess, i don't know the exact words, but one of them was taking pictures of everything, and he says he was really worried about it. martha: well those fears went unanswered, and we know he was not alone in terms of reaching out and asking for more security where they were in benghazi, and we've heard really precious little about a lot of the details that are missing here. >> well, he didn't say -- he didn't say very much. you know, that was his job not to say anything to me, or to anybody else, but he was an information person, and any of the information that was going out to white house or wherever it was going went through him, so he knew what was happening over there.
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and he tried to tell them, please, we need more help. stevens also asked for help. and as far as i know he was ignored also. i don't know what happened. i want to know what happened, why did this happen, what was the reasoning behind it. was it political that my son is dead? why wasn't there anybody there to -- why didn't they get somebody in to help? there were people available, but they were told to stand down, and i heard that from quite a few different sources. who told them to stand down? and why were they -- why? why is this happening? why is our government doing this. why? martha: patricia smith we hope to get answers to those questions at some point. >> i've been told that before. martha: thank you very much. we hope you get them eventually and we'll keep telling the story until we get some more information. >> i hope so. martha: thank you, ma'am.
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gregg: reports of yet another unforeseen cost of obama care. new veer much suggesting that keeping young adults on their parents' insurance plans is more expensive than if they were on their own plans. it's just the lateness a long string of rising costs associated with the president's healthcare overhaul. tucker carlson is the editor of "the daily caller" and the newest cohost of fox and friend. he's here with us g. to see you, tucker. >> good morning. gregg: you could see this one coming a mile away. >> of course. every regulated good and service becomes more expensive the more
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regulated it comes. in the case of keeping kids on their parents' healthcare until the age of 26 of course, because they don't see the costs. if you were to go shopping on someone else's tab and there were no price tags would you spend more than you normally would? gregg: of course i would. >> if somebody else is paying you spend more than you would if you were paying. gregg: the government is famous for cost overruns. we are learning the exchanges will be double the cost that the government promised. >> like 606 billion the latest estimate. these are subsidies of course for health insurance. and the obama administration is describing these cost overruns as unforeseen, and they may be the only people who didn't foresee this. the irony of course is that this bill was pitched, this law was pitched initially as a way to get healthcare costs under control. those are the single largest costs the federal government inch cures for medicare and medicaid and this was going to contain them and instead they have exploded.
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gregg: beyond children on parents' policies, sebelius is admitting the obvious on something else obama care is driving up overall premiums for everybody. >> of course they are. attached to the premiums are payments for services that the average person probably won't choose to pay for him or herself. if you're going into buy health insurance most people want catastrophic coverage. you're diagnosed with cancer, a heart condition and you need healthcare. most people are probably not interested in paying for other people's fertility treatments or the list of mandated services that the rest of us are paying for. of course it's more expensive. gregg: if you like your coverage you get to keep it that is turning out not to be true as well. tucker carlson, thanks very much. good to see you. >> thanks, gregg. gregg: we'll be right back, don't go away. so...how'd it go? well, dad, i spent my childhood living with monks learning the art of dealmaking. you've mastered
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