locked down out of precaution. a student thought they saw somebody with a gun on that campus. you can imagine that they want too make sure they are doing all they can. of that coming up. we will see you on monday. thanks for being with us this week. we'll see bill back on monday. gregg: bye-bye. martha: right now we have brand-new stories and breaking news. rick: alarming new u.s. intelligence about north korea's ability to launch a nuclear bomb as the secretary of state john kerry visits seoul and issues a strong warning for kim jong un. see receipt recordings at the campaign headquarters of the top republican in the u.s. senate. the latest information on who did it as the fbi investigates. a water main break trapping people in their homes, it's all "happening now." tough talk for north korean leader kim jong un. secretary of state john kerry vowing to defend the u.s. and our allies in any showdown with

the north. hello, everybody, i'm rick folbaum in for jon scott. jenna: i'm jenna lee. great to have you with us today. secretary kerry very bus reright now on the ground in south korea with a direct warning to north korea not to test fire a mid-range missile. this comes amid chilling new details from a u.s. military assessment which says for the first time the communist country may be able to mount a nuclear warhead on a missile. secretary kerry essentially now denying that is possible but warning that the north, and warning the north that its nuclear program will only leave it more isolated from the global community. >> neither the united states, nor the republic of korea, nor the international community, we are all united in the fact that north korea will not be accepted as a nuclear power. jenna: they are very much isolated already. jennifer griffin is live at pentagon this morning.

jennifer any sign that any of those words from secretary serri certificate kerry are having an impact on north korea. >> reporter: no sign as of yet. what is interesting is that south korean officials have done something they haven't done as late and they have offered to talk to the north koreans. that came from the official news agency, reported this morning. it shows that the south koreans wants to try and -- they realize that kim jong un is backed into a corner and that the further he's bac corner the biggethe big difficulties they face, and the only way out is to offer to talk to kim jong un or he'll go ahead with the test. it will be interesting to see if the north korean as respond or whether secretary kerry leaves and goes to china they decide to go ahead with the test. jenna: yesterday there were revelations on capitol hill, and some back and forth about whether or not this what sort of

mistake that led to the information that maybe, maybe north korea can put a nuclear war head and one of our ballistic missiles. what is the pentagon saying about those reports? >> reporter: well the pentagon is pushing back pretty hard suggesting that this is over blown and that this is not the united view of the intelligence community. here is what representative lamborne of colorado revealed yesterday during the hearing. >> quoting from the unclassified portion, which i believe has not yet been made public, they say, quote, dia assesses with moderate confidence the north currently has nuclear weapons capable of delivery by ballistic missiles, however the reliability will be low. >> reporter: director of national intelligence james clapper issued this statement, quote, i concur with the earlier department of defense statement that, quote, it would be inaccurate to suggest that the north korean regime has fully

developed and tested the kind of nuclear weapons referenced in the passage. i would add that the statement read by the member is not an intelligence community assessment. so, again, members of the intelligence community, as well as pentagon officials pushing back trying to downplay this information that was released. it's not new information but it was not -- it's new that it's in the public sphere. jenna: is if like splitting hairs? or is it like in a work community potentially where some people believe this. other people believe this. then there is a general consensus. it's a little confuse toking know why it would be published but maybe not what everybody thinks. >> reporter: let's remember that we have nine different intelligence agencies, and they pool their information under the director of national intelligence. you have the cia, the dia, defense intelligence agency which is part of military intelligence. this information came from a classified report that dia officials had put together. the section that lamborne read

was allegedly unclassified for some apparent reason, pentagon officials are baffled like that, it is the assessment of one part of the intelligence community. but the rest of the intelligence community had not vetted and and agreed on it and it didn't appear we are told in any sort of national intelligence assessment. jenna: that is really helpful. thank you for that. the context is important here as we get all these new reports and watch the tick-tock of what is going on in north korea. jennifer thank you so much. we'll be back to the pentagon with more breaking news as we get it. we'll speak with the former u.s. am cast bore to south korea, let his take than on the latest in this crisis and what can be next for the united states, our allies and any troops we have in the region as well. new information on a deadly bus accident in texas. two elderly women were killed as the bus overturned on the way to a casino in oklahoma. one of those women organized this trip for a group of seniors.

40 others were injured in the accident. four of them are still in critical condition. the bus owner, cardinal coach lines had been cited for minor safety and bookkeeping violation. no accidents have been reported in recent years. the bus may have blown a tire before hitting two concrete barriers and rolling a couple of times. the national safety board is investigating the crash. a suspicious advice causing a scare near fort hood. a local news station says police found a round package with tape and wires attached to it inside a pickup truck during a routine traffic stop in waco, texas. the bomb squad was called in, took the device to fort hood. police will not say whether or not it was a bomb but described it as a man-made device. one person in the truck was arrested on an unspecified charge. another story we'll watch. a new information that secret

recordings made at mitch mcconnell's headquarters, the fbi investigating after a tape after strategy session back in february was released this week in "mother jones" magazine. we are told there are persons of interests in this case. there is a lot of focus on a liberal superpac called progress kentucky, a local democratic party member taking fox news' megyn kelly two men from ta group bragged to him about making the recordings in the hall way it isn't clear yet if they are the ones that gave that tape to "mother jones." rick: right now the fight over guns and your second amendment rights heading to the floor of the u.s. congress. the senate set to begin debate next week on a bill that would expand required federal background checks for purchases at gun shows and weapons bought online. joining us now is one of the two men who helped craft the bipartisan plan, west virginia democratic senator joe manchin. thank you so much for joining us, senator. >> thanks for having me, rick. rick: i was struck by the title

of your bill. it's called the public safety and second amendment preservation act. a lot of gun owners don't see it that way they see -- >> rights preservation act. rick: thank you. they see any kind of evenings pangs of background checks as an infringement upon their second amendment rye. what do you say to them? >> rick, all i would say is please read the bill. we have -- this bill is a great bill, nothing to hide. they need to see it. people have been using scare tactics. this second amend many rights protection act is really what it is. these things in this -- as a law abiding gun owner as an nra member these are things i wanted for years. the other thing is is i don't talk to any of my gun enthusiasts if you will, that does not believe that we shouldn't do a background check on finding if someone is a criminal, or if they have been mentally adjudicated not to be able to buy a gun at a gun show or online. the current law is, rick, if you go to a gun store now you have to do a background check. if you go to a gun show, if you

go to a dealer at a gun show, a licensed dealer, you still do it. we are just saying everybody will be treated the same. rick: senator one of the complaints from gun owners is that this punishes law abiding citizens while doing nothing to prevent the horrors of sandy hook. what is your response to that? >> let me just say first of all, this does not punish, it protects law abiding gun owners, and that's all i'm saying is read it. get on mancin.senate.goff. the parents of sandy hook came to see me. these are the most bravist, core ragist people i've ever dean. they are not asking for anybody's rights to be taken away. they say they know the law providing background checks

would not prevent my child from being massacred, it's awful but they are saying, maybe it would prevent someone who is mentally deranged, someone who is a criminal that shouldn't have a gun to protect somebody else's family. rick: i want to try to get as many questions in in the short amount of time i had. there was a poll that shows that 50% of gun owners could lead to the government coming in and taking away people's legally obtained weapons. what about that concern? is that legitimate, that concern that so many people have? >> it's absolutely, totally false, and anybody saying that is just basically scaring or lying to people. the law today, rick, is you cannot do a registry. if you go to a gun dealer today he has to keep a record, or she has to keep a record. if it's used for a registration it's against the law. in our bill we make it a felony and 15 years of imprisonment. if you just -- if people will just go to the website and read

for themselves, pat toomey and i would not be involved with this bill if it infringed on anybody's rights. rick: senator mansion, what happens to this next? what do you think happens when this bill or when the house takes up this legislation, is the president ever going to get something close to what you crafted with senator too many mow on his desk to sign? >> the president has been very clear, this is not his bill, it's not the bill he likes or would want, i understand that. this is the bill that me as a law abiding gun owner, pat toomey, this is a bill that those of us who come from gun cultures, it makes sense. it basically doesn't change any of the laws we have, we expand to gun shows all background checks, online all background checks. we do that now to some extent. that is all we're doing, we don't infringe on individuals, we are not asking to infringe on any individual, we are protecting rights, protecting veteran's rights. our veterans are not getting treated right.

if you like veterans and you think they should be treated better then you'll like this bill. if you're a law abiding gun owner you will love this bill if you look at what is in it. and if you want to protect and keep criminals and mentally insane people from having guns, you'll love this bill. just please read it, and i'm hoping that we can get 60 votes in a bipartisan manner. rick: we'll be watching with great interest to see what happens. senator joe manchin from vest virginia. >> we node your remember, rick. jenna: new developments in the case of a washington intern who disappeared more than a decade ago. the man convicted of murdering chandra levy is currently behind bars but his attorneys are now requesting a 911 call reporting a bloodcurdling scream coming from her apartment the morning she disappeared. what is this all about? we'll have that latest for you. also a german family who wants to home school their children fighting deportation now and they are getting help. the latest in their fight to seek asylum in the united states. [ male announcer ] ah... retirement. sit back, relax,

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rick: new information on some crime stories we are keeping an eye on. a second man arrested in the investigation into the colorado prison chief's death. police say a white supremacist prison gang member whose name surfaced during the investigation is now in custody. they say he is not a suspect in tom clements murder but was wanted for a parole violation. attorneys for the man convicted of killing congressional intern chandra levy want a 911 recording in the case turned over. the call was made the morning of her disappearance back in 2001 and reports what we are told is a bloodcurdling scream at her apartment building. the request coming after the judge revealed a few months agnew evidence in the case concerns the credibility of the government's key witness. in arizona a package addressed to sheriff joe or pie ow arpayo containing explosive materials. the sheriff is known for his

strict treatment of jail inmates and cracking down on illegal immigrants. jenna: right now a petition on the white house website in support of a german family facing deportation has enough signatures to guarantee a response. the family came to the united states back in 2008 seeking asylum them. wanted to home school their children, which is illegal in germany. the justice department wants them deported saying home schoolers are not a protected class. the family is now fighting that decision. they want to stay. doug mcelway is live in washington with more. >> reporter: hard to believe in a country like germany which has had a troubled past that home schooling is illegal. as you pointed out that is exactly why the family came to the united states. they are a devout catholic family and they objected to the fact that public schools in germany do not aeu will you for any religious teachings nor do they allow home schooling, so they came here. fox' douglas kennedy interviewed them at their home in tennessee. >> what did it mean to you?

>> freedom and, yeah, so -- >> now what does it mean? >> i means the same thing as in germany, that government wants to control what parents are doing. and control teaching of course. >> reporter: at first the united states granted the family political asylum n. 2010 the justice department intervened asserting that the practice of parents educating their children could not be used as a basis too seek citizenship. they attempted to send them all back to germany. they are being represented by the home school legal defense association which says they deserve political a saoeu asylum. >> there is a great disbelieve and outrage from home schoolers at our government. we see all this leniency towards illegal immigrants and the fact that our government can't show any leniency whatsoever toward this one home schooling family.

>> reporter: they say the family's case is not about persecution. >> home schooling may be a good idea, it may be a bad idea, it's a public policy question, not having home schooling is not being persecuted. asylum is about persecution. they are not getting something they would like, that is true for people everywhere, and that's why we have legislatures. >> reporter: but the idea that this family has followed virtually all the rules when so many other immigrants have not and they are still being considered for deportation is deeply troubling to many, jenna. jenna: what resource does the family have now, doug? >> reporter: their case has gathered over a hundred thousand signatures on a white house petition at the white house website that is the threshold at which the white house staff will review it and insure that it's sent to the appropriate policy experts and issue an official response but that response has not been forthcoming at least as of yet, jenna. jenna: we'll continue to watch the story. doug mcelway live in d.c. thank you. rick: intelligence reports

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rick: one criminal may be laying low after his clumsy heist. take a look at the surveillance video out of phoenix. you can see the suspect stealing a set of golf clubs. you will in a second. his get away doesn't go according to plan. he's going to trip over the bag. face planting on the pavement. whoops, there he goes. eventually he gets the clubs inside an accomplice's car they speed away. police releasing the video in

hopes of finding both of these guys and the clubs. jenna: when you really want to play golf you really want to play golf. >> it is inaccurate to suggest that the dprk has fully tested, developed or demonstrated capabilities that are articulate ned that report. -- articulated in that report. so we do not operate from the presumption that they have that fully tested and available capacity. but obviously they have conducted a nuclear test, so there is some kind of device. jenna: that was secretary of state john kerry essentially denying a disturbing military intelligence report that suggests significant progress in north korea's nuclear program, essentially that they would be able to put a small nuclear warhead on one of their missiles. secretary kerry is meeting with south korean leaders this morning amid rising tensions with the rogue nation and the possibility of yet another missile test in the next few days. joining us now we are please towed have ambassador

christopher hill the former u.s. ambassador to south korea and dean of the university of denver school of international studies. great to have you with us. thanks nor all the service to our country. >> thank you. jenna: what do you make of this new report, intelligence report about north korea's technology potentially. is it a game-changer? >> well, let me make a couple points. first is, when you have these intel reports, what you usually try to wait for is a consensus of the various intelligence agencies. so it's probably a little premature and probably for that reason you had several people yesterday trying to push it down in significance. however, we have a country that is clearly got the intent to develop these weapons. they've made progress on miniature ryization. they are clearly looking to put a warhead on a missile. so sooner or later that report is going to be correct, and so the same old question comes back, what are we going to do

about this? jenna: how do we stop it? >> i think a first step of course is getting secretary kerry out to the region, and i thought it was very significant that he made a point that need to be made over and over again, we are not going to accept a nuclear north korea. clearly north korea is trying to create facts on the ground such that people will say, well there is nothing we can do about it, they are the next pakistan or next india. we've got to make very clear we will not accept this. we have to work very closely with our allies. that's why it's very important that he went to south korea first and to talk about the things we need to do, including thickening up missile defense. and thirdly we've really got to ratchet this one up, put it number one on our agenda with china. there are a lot of things we've got going with china, intellectual property rights, human rights in tibet, et cetera, there are a lot of issues there. i think this north korean issue needs to be number one and i think we need to really be seeing the chinese every day and i'm very glad that secretary

kerry is going to be there tomorrow. jenna: the effort to make it extraordinarily clear that we are not going to stand for north korea further developing their nuclear program, i'd like to call upon your experience in south korea as the ambassador. you've watched round of sanctions go by and north korea sped toward nuclearization. we have tried sanctions time and time again, we've strongly condemned this nation time and time again. if we take a look at a map of north korea they had no electricity for the most part. they are extremely isolated. so what is left for us to do to make that point any stronger that we are not going to stand for their behavior? >> yeah, well your point is well-taken. we live in a world of bad options. we threaten them with isolation, they kind of having you their shoulders, they say they like being isolated. our sanctions don't really have a big impact. but one of the reasons isolation and sanctions don't have an impact is, frankly, we've never fully got even the chinese on

board. there are those who say well china will never get on board, why are we doing that? china can get on board. we node to work closely with china and make sure china understands that this is for us a number one issue and to some extent we will judge our relationship with china, in terms of whether we are able to cooperate on north korea. there is more that can be done. if china really shut them off, you know, if you go down to that north korea-china border you have a place that looks like las vegas, and on the other side you have north korea, it's a waste land. china ned to stop using that border to allow goods and service toes come into north korea. i think it's doable to do more with china. jenna: you're touching on something so important as part of the story which is it's really a regional issue. and we spend a grit deal of time talking about what does kim jong un want, what is north korea's goal. what is our goal in the region in order to achieve whatever it is that we want we need to be very clear about what goal

exists. so if you could sum that up for our viewers, what is our goal in the region? >> first of all we want peace and security there. we don't want this country threatening every other country and we certainly don't want this country threatening south korea and continuing this instability on the korean pennsylvania. peninsula. we would like peace and security on the korean peninsula we are prepared to live with a nonnuclear north korea. it has to be nonnuclear. we are prepared to do some things. the first order of business is denuclearization. i would like north korea to either change its spots completely or frankly speaking to go away, whether that is a hard landing or soft landing, at some pint th point the korean people have a right to have a republic korea what would he really have here is a residue of

problems from the middle of the 20th century. jenna: is our pry port regime change, soft or hard landing? >> well, our priority should be behavior change. i think there are many people who believe -- jenna: is that possible do you think? >> well you know it is hard to see at this pint that yo point that you could have behavior change with a person like kim jong un. that is for them to determine. we need behavior change and if it fakes a change of regime so be it. i think the north koreans, we node to sharpen the choices for them. we ned to make them understand that if they are going on this path of nuclear weapons they will really face huge choices in their economy and elsewhere and sooner or later they are not going to be able to withstand it. jenna: ambassador hill it's a privilege to have you on the program. thank you so much for the time today. we look forward to having you back. >> thank you. rick: coming up new information in the fight against a cyber attack. what the government is doing now to beef up security in cyberspace, and whether you're

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jenna: some new information on cybersecurity today as the house intelligence committee aproves a new bill to help protect computer networks from cyber attacks. the measure sets up a voluntary system for companies to share threat information with the government in exchange for some liability protections. this sunday the results of an exclusive fox news investigation into

government data collection and whether your secrets are safe. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington. luckily we have to secrets, catherine. so we don't have to worry. >> reporter: we certainly don't. jenna: what is the utah data center? >> reporter: the utah data center is like a giant thumb drive or storage facility. this facility even if you ask to get access you can't get inside it. what we did in our investigation we rented a helicopter and we took to the skies and this is really the best way to get a sense of the massive scope of this data center. from the skies it is truly an awesome sight. the data center by most estimates can hold five data bites of data. just one zeta byte is the equivalent of a data can be stored by 62 billion, 62 billion iphone 5s. if you stacked up all of those iphones, it would take

you from the earth all the way past the moon. so that is how enormous the data is. and as part of the special we interviewed a former nsa employee who turned whistle-blower who says this shows that we are just one step away from a surveillance state. >> really a turn-key situation where it could be turned quickly and become a totalitarian state pretty quickly. the capacity to do that is being set up. if we get the wrong person in office or in government, they could make that happen quickly. >> reporter: the nsa can't really say much about what the data center does but we do know is that it can hold e-mail traffic and web traffic, web videos, if you will. they say this is really a major tool in the tool box they need to fight cybersecurity issues and cyberterrorism, jenna. >> we'll watch for your report on sunday. the nsa? >> reporter: i imagine they will be.

we asked repeatedly for interview with the head of the nsa and head of the cyber command, general keith alexander, and we were not able to get that interview. but from what we know about the nsa they say there are very strict rules for the collection of data. they do not collect data on american citizens. these rules are so classified, that they just can't even explain what the rules are, that protect individual privacy. and when we couldn't get that interview with general alexander we stopped by one of his public events to ask a question. >> the utah data center hold the data of american citizens? >> no. we don't hold data on u.s. citizens. people there at nsa they take protecting your civil liberties and privacy as the most important thing that they do. and in securing this nation. and so when people just throw out, they will have all this stuff at the utah data center. that is baloney.

>> reporter: bottom line, we've got this emerging cyber threat. you have the government saying they need to have these massive storage facilities to try and mitigate this threat. and then on the other hand, you have whistle-blowers and privacy groups who say hey, all that data in one place is incredibly powerful, especially if it is turned against individual citizens. and the rules are classified. so no one can really tell you what the rules are, jenna. jenna: very fascinating. catherine, thank you very much. looking forward to sunday. sunday be sure to tune in to fox news reporting, your secret is out. it is a special that looks at sigher security concerns. it is hosted by john roberts and airs this sunday night at 9:00 p.m. eastern time. jon: looking forward to that. right now a deficit-busting "gang of 8" could be forming again in washington. both republican and democratic senators thinking about sitting down again after earlier efforts failed. another bipartisan "gang of plan of

immigration reform. this week saw a bipartisan gang of 2 reach a deal on gun back drowned checks. lots of bipartisanship at least in the u.s. senate. doug schoen, former vice tore to president clinton and monica crowley, fox news contributor. what is going on here, monica? is it spring in the air and cherry blossoms. >> gangs are busting out all over washington, d.c. some had more success than others talking about a new by l bri partisan deficit committee. there is hope they might have success cutting the deficit or putting proposals on the table where so many committees before have failed. i think expectations are very low. we had the ultimate bipartisan committee in simpson-bowles. they put extraordinarily, really path-breaking proposals on the table to try to rein in the deficit to tax reform to getting growth side going, rick, to entilement reform.

president obama disregarded it and blew it off. >> so did paul ryan, monica. >> dawes it didn't deal with health care deficits in a real way. that was his problem with it. we had these bipartisan groups before the president rejecting so many of the proposals in the past. even if it gets through congress it still has to go through the white house. jon: still has to get through the house. the bipar sawn ship is not going on in the house but the senate. >> i'm more optimistic than the president. the president has been a late to the party. i've been an opponent ever presidents, you know that as well. we have to give him credit, one, recognizing he has to do entitlement reform. he has been willing in last couple weeks to sit down twice with republicans. he does have to show leadership. we have to do something like poltz simpson. bottom line it is good we're getting bipartisanship breaking out because we have to do something about immigration, guns and absolutely the debt and deficit. jon: the president said during the campaign if and when he won a second term

the republican fever would break. there wouldn't be this intense desire to get him out of office and there might be a opportunities for republicans and democrats to work together. is that maybe what we're seeing. >> he said that before out of one side of his mouth. and out of other side of his mouth he trashed with republicans from kingdom come. i want to work with the white house and president but he doesn't meet us halfway and this is the way he treats us. the proof is in the pudding. this president has been president over four years, going on 4 1/2 years now. he has had plenty of opportunities to really take on serious entitlement reform and i mean structural reform, not just chain cpi he is talking about now. he has had plenty of time to rein in government spending and in fact he has gone the other way. so there is nothing in his history or pattern of behavior here to suggest that a change. now that doesn't mean he won't but my expectations are very low. jon: so the chain cpi, which sound like a new show on fox thursday night, some kind of a crime show, that is something he put out there and getting problems from

the left. >> we see, that's the thing. look, i think we really need to lower our voices, perhaps, negotiate in private and recognize the president has problems from left flank, the republicans from the right flank. but we all have to come together because these are american problems. they're not democratic problems. it is not the president's problem. it is all of our problems. if we can do immigration, we can do guns and we can do something about the burgeoning debt problem, the entitlement problem which is unsustainable. we all benefit. but if we all fail, we all lose, rick. jon: something like we are the world? >> i hope we do. all the fighting is silly. it does the american people a disservice and our position overseas it makes us look really silly. jon: doug schoen, monica crowley. jenna will you take part in the video? jenna: certainly. i can't sing. i will hum along. after days of listening to a defense expert testify jurors in the jodi arias trial got their chance to

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jon: more drama expected in the jodi arias murder trial today as jurors get another chance to question the defense's domestic violence expert. in arizona jurors can ask questions to witnesses after the prosecution and defense lawyers wrap up. yesterday the judge reading dozens of those juror questions which appear to show skepticism about arias's claim she was abused by her ex-boyfriend, the man she is accused of killing. she admitted to the killing. fred tecce, former federal prosecutor. arthur it dal la criminal defense attorney and fox legal analyst. good to see you guys. they asked the therapist, arthur if perhaps jodi was the abuser? if there was physical evidence that she was physically abused? they basically asked the therapist is jodi is a liar? sounds like they were not

buying this woman's testimony. >> rick, when you're sitting there defending this woman depends on your outlook on life, philosophy on life, are awe glass half-full or glass had empty. i will take the harder angle, glass half-full. jon: really? >> i got to make this interesting, right. >> good luck. >> the defense attorney may be saying maybe there is one or two. you don't know who is asking the question, how many jurors are asking the question. one or two before they don't give her the death penalty or fully acquit her. she want to make sure they're crossing their ts and dotting the is and asking a hard question like prosecutor would. that is the most positive spin. jon: arthur -- >> he is good. he is good. jon: love you but i'm not buying it. fred, first of all, it is so fascinating that we get a chance to sort of take the temperature of the jury midway through the trial. >> yeah. jon: if you're listening to these questions, fred, what is your takeaway? >> what is my take away? she is d, u, you un, done.

they didn't believe him and they don't believe this woman even a little bit. they're incredibly skeptical. rick, i tell people this all the time. jurors make up their mind and look for evidence to support the position that they have come. it is clear to me a jot lot of jurors made up their mind that jodi arias was the aggressor and guilty of first-degree murder. they ask the woman why are you snaking warm smiles and goingly eyes at jodi arias. that is my term not theirs. you get the point the woman was knocked off kilter and said, oh, family friends sitting back there they're looking for reasons to not like this lady. jon: arthur, i guess i'm thinking like a football game where the coach goes in at halftime to make adjustments what happens in the first half. i hope we're more than halfway through this trial. what kind of adjustments can be made at this point. >> go out and get another team. >> here is the tiny advantage you have because the jurors are asking the questions. you know where of the issues

are. you know what to identify. i like this system where the jurors are involved because you don't waste your time on certain issues and can focus on other issues. they have to take these questions through the whole try from the jurors. pick them apart and give the summation of a lifetime. put johnnie cochran to shame. that is how great this summation has to be. >> tell you right now, you, johnnie cochran and five other people come back from the dead, clarence darrow could not get this woman, i don't care what summation. >> could be a hung jury, fred. don't say that is impossible. >> i hear what you're saying. look, i'm not always right but i'm always committed to my position, you know that. my bottom line is, my bottom line is this, she is trying to get herself acquitted. by virtue of doing that she will get herself completely convicted. jon: we'll see what happens. day 45 but who is counting. arthur, fred. have a good weekend. >> go fillies. >> good luck. jenna: d, u, n. that is new spelling.

jon: spoken like a true philly boy. jenna: the leader of a new study will tell us how they're doing it, what it means for anyone suffering from chronic pain. that is just ahead. se tens of thousands of dollars in hidden fees on their 401(k)s?! go to e-trade and roll over your old 401(k)s to a new e-trade retirement account. none of them charge annual fees and all of them offer low cost investments. e-trade. less for us. more for you.

jenna: exciting new development that could change the way doctors diagnose and treat our pain. scientists now say they can see pain on brain scans and claim they can even measure its intensity. joining us now university of colorado at boulder and a leading author of the study of pain. how we feel about pain we think i have it subjective, like my pain would be different than your pain. what does your study tell us about pain? >> well, what we developed is a brain system that

tracks acute pain or pain coming up from the body and this type of pain in particular is very consistent across individual people. so we can actually develop a brain signature that can track how much pain, this kind of pain an individual is feeling. jenna: so instead of pain being something that's subjective, eventually doctors would be able to objectively say this is the pain, this is how intense your pain is? >> that's the hope and pain is very real in the brain but it is also very hard to empathize with pain in other people because we can't touch their pain, we can't feel their pain and pain is also very hard to measure because people use language in very different ways and people from different cultures. so the hope this can give us a way of looking at the brain directly and understanding some of the neurophysiological ingredients that underlie pain and therefore, understand how we can more effectively treat pain. jenna: it is so interesting you say that i was in the doctor's office recently.

i have a hip injury. the pain on a scale of 1 to 10, where is it? 6.75? i had no way to express how i was feeling about the injury. your study applies to chronic pain as well. 100 million americans, one in three of us suffer from some sort of cronic pain. that is more than heart disease, cancer and diabetes combined. so what does your stud by mean for people with cronic pain? >> i think there's hope we can at some point develop measures for chronic pain. i think chronic pain is much more complex than what we've identified here. we think of our measure as detecting a sort of ingredient of pain coming up from the body but we understand very little about the ways in which different brain systems interact to create that pain experience. and so the hope is that we'll eventually have measures to diagnose different forms of chronic pain and different qualities of this complex experience and therefore tune our treatments to the kind of

pain a person has and its cause at the brain level. jenna: just real quick because we've also done quite a few segments about pain medication and how dangerous it can be, how, could your study being able to diagnose pain, then change the way we treat it? >> well a number of groups, women and minorities are systematically undertreated. they have to report more pain to get the same level of drug treatment. one of the reasons is that it's hard for care providers and physicians sometimes to really assess how much pain people are feeling. this could be used to confirm pain in those people and to help in the diagnosis of pain. however, i want to make the., it is not a pain lie detector. it can never be used as pain lie detector, different people might feel pain for different reasons in the brain. jenna: i'm so glad you got that in. that is one of the questions we had and we're short on time. but that this study is used to say you feel pain but not really and shrug you off. we hope to have you back.

we know this is the beginning of study and we hope to learn more from you and thank you for your time. >> pleasure to be here. jon: fascinating. coming up with some key senators on the verge of announcing a deal immigration reform. we'll talk about border security straight ahead t ♪ ♪ haters best get to bloggin' ♪ so hot right now that our designer ♪ ♪ sunglasses be foggin' ♪ this crowd is classic ♪ so we play 'em like rachmaninoff ♪ ♪ just hooked 'em up with score alerts ♪ ♪now we're about to set it off ♪set it off like a score alert ♪ beep beep what? ♪if you set your phone to vibrate ♪ ♪ then it might alert your button flies all the ♪ ♪ girls and the guys wanna keep that credit score ♪ ♪ high like a private jet free-credit-score-dot-com ♪ ♪ don't forget narrator: offer applies with enrollment in freecreditscore.com

jenna: brand-new stories and breaking news this hour. a massive storm system slamming millions as it moves across the nation. where this treacherous weather is heading next. we'll tell u. plus a group giving away free shotguns to folks in high crime areas. critics call it reckless. we'll explain. and his video went viral. millions have seen this seven-year-old scoring a touchdown. he's fighting brain cancer as well, quite a journey he's had. his father says there is something even more important that you need to know beyond this video this week. we will talk to jack's dad live on "happening now." rick: we start with a surge in tide of illegal immigration

flooding over the border all caught on video not by the government but by concerned citizens. janet nepal tan kwroe says the border is more secure than ever. but the video shows a far different story. william la jeunesse is live in los angeles with more. >> even this video is just a snapshot. it does offer a counter point to the administration's claim that because it added border patrol fence and technology that the border is secure enough to legalize those already here. others want a more secure border first and this is evidence they say that it's not.

>> we haven't been in that area for several hours. we are getting inundated where we're at. they also record conversations between border patrol pilots and those on the ground. >> we are going to need another person over here. we have about 250 bodies out there. >> what is your plan on that group of 20 or so that is outstanding. >> we have a group of 37. >> evidence supports what border

agents tell us, fencing in arizona's border cities simply pushed illegal immigrant traffic farther out where it's harder to stop. >> in certain eastbound sections of that sector we really still have a troublesome situation. a lot more people getting through than we thought. >> reporter: what is a secure border? how is it measured and is the dhs required to meet certain car gets before approving an immigration bill or does congress approve the bill and then establish targets in the coming years. jenna, that argument is coming very soon. jenna: those are very big questions. we'll continue to follow this story, william, thank you. rick: fox news alert. an alarming new development concerning north korea. a new u.s. intelligence report says pyongyang could possibly arm a ballistic missile with a nuclear war head. colorado congressman doug lamborne revealing the details there a partially unclassified

pentagon report yesterday. all of this as secretary of state john kerry arrives in seoul south korea and denies the report and warns north korea that the u.s. is prepared to take action if necessary. >> we will defend our allies. we will stand with south korea, japan and others against these threats, and we will defend ourselves. and kim jong un need to understand, as i think he probably does, what the outcome of a conflict would be. rick: treasury department officials slapping economic sanctions on businesses accused of having ties to iran's nuclear program. richrd grennell is a former assistant to the last four ambassadors. you think there is a connection here between north korea and iran and maybe we are missing something as we focus so much on what is going on with north korea. >> sadly we've become a just

topld to the mainstream media's group think where they repeat and retweet each others stories. it's quite another when our u.s. national security leaders get distracted so easily. north korea is clearly a problem. but iran is the immediate threat. and it's kind of like u know, if your house is on fire and you call 911 you want the firemen to come to your house and surround it not go to nare neighbor's house and wait for it to burn down. rick: the attention that secretary kerry is paying to the north korea situation by traveling to the region, you think that that trip is misguided? should he be traveling somewhere closer to iran? >> i think we should be able to walk and chew gum. clearly we don't need to rush over to south korea when we are sending a message to iran that they get to keep building their plant. look, this week the iranians announced, president ahmadinejad announced that they had enriched uranium to a greater point. that is very concerning. we've also seen in kazakhstan

the six party talks completely fall apart. the obama administration has been offering iran the ability, a brand-new proposal, weaker than the u.n.'s proposal and idea that they could enrich some ooh rain yan and still be allowed to have international approval of that. that is a weaker position than the u.n. we have a serious problem in iran and our media is completely focused on the fact that we are hearing bluster there the north korean as. rick: you have to think that ahmadinejad is taking advantage of that. you can put it on the calendar every single year probably for the next 20 years that there are going to be hostilities and threats and this bell bell belacose coming out of north korea. >> he probably sent a thank you note to kim jong un. thanks for having all the attention on you, i'm going to keep enriching ooh rain kwrufplt north korea has sold its technology to iran. we know there is a connection

there, we know that north korea is a proliferater and the world knows it. rick: what do we do in the short term about north korea to sort of get this to move beyond this sort of heightened sense of traysee necessary that everybody sees -- craziness that everybody seems to be in and focus our attention where they need to be focused. >> we need to be able to do both. north korea is clearly a problem. i would suggest that if they shoot a medium range missile, a long-range missile, whatever they shoot, we should shoot it down. we need to let them know we are watching and have the capability to do that. they have been building towards this bluster for a white. in december they took a long-range missile and put something up in the earth's atmosphere. most people think it's a satellite, technically we don't know what that object is. i think that there is this build that we can't ignore in north korea, but the priority is iran, that is the immediate threat to u.s. national security. rick: thank you very much. great to get your insight on this. jenna. jenna: turning back to politics

now the president's new budget proposal getting a full hearing today by the house ways and means committee. even before lawmakers get through witness the president's plan is facing a lot of heavy fire. "washington post" columnist robert samuelson says today in an, quote, there is something profoundly timid about president obama's proposed $3.8 trillion budget for 2014. the budget is a status quo document. it let's existing trends and policies run their course. this is not liberal, or conservative, so much as politicallied peed kwrepbt. rich lowry is editor of the national review, joined by sally cohen both are fox news contributors. some criticism from "the washington post" today saying this approach is timid. know why not applaud the president's effort for at least taking a look at social security. >> he should be applauded for the so-called chained cpi. a very minor measure in the scheme of things, a statistical reform.

there are two things you need to know about this budget, one is it actually creates a deficit that is higher than current policy until 2017 when the president will leave office, two, there is this outfit called the congressional progressive casino the most left wing members of congress. they produced a budget that had a deficit, a debt excuse me lower ten years from now than the president's budget. this document is just a joke, it's completely dead on arrival. jenna: bob samuelson goes on and he says the proposal is phony compared with the size of the problem obama's proposals are tiny. in rich's point right now if we look at mandatory spending, social security, food stamps or medicare, the mandatory spending it's more than half of everything we are spending in the country now going to those programs. if the president is about big change why not go big here. >> two points. first of all i really appreciate rich. unlike most conservatives he is giving the president credit for doing what republicans have been saying to do all aeu lock.

samuelson, it's hysterical. obama do something about our entitlements e. says he's going to and then the republicans all cry, oh it's not enough, he doesn't mean it. come on. the larger issue here is though republicans seem to procedure get who won the election and seem to not be paying attention to every public opinion poll since then. americans are not worried about the debt and deficit, they are worried about jobs. we have a short-term jobs problem, we have a long-term debt problem. you fix jobs, you get people back to work, you start growing incomes again, you start to pay down the deficit. americans have said overwhelmingly they want to raise taxes and not cut entitlements. so why republicans are still pushing such an unpopular ideology is mystifying. jenna: rich, why are they doing that? >> because we have a very serious entitlement problem and serious analysts like samuelson of the washington po*e is neither left more right, someone who really knows this stuff cold and cares about the future of the country

realizes we have to deal with that problem. the fact is the president doesn't again chain cpi it's a nice little step, it gets about 200 billion or so over the next ten years which is a drop in the bucket. half of that by the way is revenue and it's adds to the tax increase on the middle class. the president got one of those back in scan in the fiscal cliff deal with attacks increase hit about 77% of people who pay taxes because the payroll tax holiday went away. that its basically what the president wants, more taxes, a little fiddling around the edges on entitlements and a higher deficit. this is a key thing that sally can't deny, it's in black-and-white in various graphs in the budget itself. a higher deficit than we would have if we just did nothing. that's what he wants for the rest of his administration. jenna: why would we want that, sally? >> i would remind rich that paul ryan's house budget proposal also would increase the deficit. >> no it eliminates it in ten years, that's untrue, the ryan budget eliminates the deficit in ten years, and your party spent

u know, a year or more demagogging the heck out of him over that, and to deny that he does that now is unbelievable. >> there is a fundamental disagreement we have in this country and that rich and i certainly have about the role of government at this moment in the economy. you have private corporations that are sitting on $2 trillion in unspent money. they are choosing, they are choosing to not create jobs and instead grow the stock market, grow profits and line the pockets of their correctioner o's. and regular folks, working folks, their wages are going down and fewer and fewer of them have jobs. now, the question is, what do we do? do we give more tax breaks and more help to those businesses and millionaires or do we use government as a last resort to remember create jobs, put people back to work, rebuilding our road and our schools and try to pump up the economy. >> we've done that for four or five years, we've spent more money. >> we haven't done it at all. >> we've been told that is going to solve all the economic problems.

on the other hand you're saying that the economy is terrible for normal working people. jenna: i have to jump in here. we'll have to pick it up here next time. some say the reason companies are sitting on this money is because they have questions on the economy overall. not just for ceo's. that is a debate for another time. great to have you both. glad to have you back on a friday, we appreciate it very much. >> thank you very much. rick: a controversial program at a time when the nation is reconsidering its gun control policies. free shotguns for people who live in dangerous areas. coming up, is that a reckless idea or could it cut down on crime? also a dangerous predator in a neighborhood where kid play, you won't believe where this wildcat was spotted. [ kate ] many women may not be absorbing the calcium they take as well as they could because they don't take it with food. switch to citracal maximum plus d. it's the only calcium supplement that can be taken with or without food. my doctor recommends citracal maximum. it's all about absorption.

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rick: glad you are with us on friday. lawmakers across the country are skwraout nicing gun control. as part of a project a student in houston is giving away free

20 gauge shot guns to people who live in high crime areas. some people are worried the controversial experiment could backfire. casey stegall joins us live from dallas with more. casey. >> reporter: good to see you it's called the armed citizen project. of it is creating quite a stir in several cities across the u.s. here is how it works. they basically look at police crime data to figure out neighborhood that have high numbers of burglaries and other violent crimes and people who are interested living in those spots can sign up for a free shotgun. they must complete a background check and go through the state firearms training requirements first, participants will then be studied and tracked for one year to see if crime rates actually go down during that time. some lawmakers call the idea reckless, others describe it as a sick, social experiment to fear the number of accidental shootings and suicides could spike if these guns get into the wrong hands. >> certainly it's not

responsible, and i don't know about the ethics, the values, the morals of a human being who would use fellow human beings as guinea pigs in this way. >> the antigun crowd frequently likes to claim that they are not second amendment and they are not antigun, they are just against what they call assault weapons, or high capacity magazines. well, i'm challenging them to prove it. >> reporter: now although the project has raised some eyebrows the idea has become so popular it's expand tpr-g houston into other -- dash from houston into other major cities. dallas, tucson, ari, chicago, indianapolis and detroit and even new york city. all of the weapons are being purchased through donations and the group is looking to arm about 100 households in each of those cities. pretty interesting, rick. rick: are they providing any kind of training for folks who get these weapons? >> reporter: that that is part of it.

they have to do the background check and the state minimum requirement for training, and then they have to have lived in their home for at least one year. rick: casey stegall live in dallas. thanks so much. jenna: it's the touchdown that went viral. coming up the father of this little boy who really captured the hearts around america. it's one of the most viewed videos of the entire week. there he is, he's got to get into position, jack. jack stebbens. he has brain cancer and his tpauts i father is going to join us with what he says is the real back story here. we'll show you the complete story coming up and have that story as well. lindsay lohan is making headlines again, her latest promise and the movie appearance that is turning heads. we have the fox 411 next. we're here! we're going to the park! [ gina ] oh hey, dan! i really like your new jetta! and you want to buy one like mine because it's so safe, right? yeah... yeah... i know what you've heard -- iihs top safety pick for $159 a month -- but, i wish it was more dangerous,

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jenna: it's not a sight you see every day but it certainly happens in this part of the country. a mountain lion roaming a southern california neighborhood right outs of los angeles. there it is spotted near a treehouse where children play. the big cat believed to be about 120-pound was finally tranquilized before it crawled under the deck of a home. poor little guy, right? you've got to get him back home, back to the forest. that's where we're told the lion hr-fpblt luc lion. luckily only scares, no injuries reported. hopefully he's onwards and upwards from them. rick: kim kardashian and kris humphries were scheduled to appear in court together today. they separated -- they are a separated couple that are required to show up for a settlement conference. julie banderas at the fox 4411 and other entertainment for reese making headlines today. >> reporter: kris humphries thinks he was framed by kim and

her producers. he says they actually set up scenes to make him look bad. it's not true according to the show's producers who argue he knew what he was getting into when he agreed to shoot a reality tv show. and the fact the marriage did not happen to workout and play out for the entire world to see, the two were supposed to come face-to-face for the first time in a different kind of audience, a courtroom. chris is a noshow. they hope apparently that they can come to an agreed to become trial. kris is shockingly demanding $7 million to guy away. would someone please pay this man. lindsay lohan is planning a last stint before checking into a 90-day program. she promises no drugs or booze at coachella. she will arrive late considering she showed up 40 minutes late to her own premiere last night when she rushed down the red carpet to scary movie 5 when throngs of

reporters shouted her name to get her attention she replied jesus. a member of her entourage says she is really happy to be there. that thank goodness for that. lazaro labos was sent home making idol history with an all female top five. among the top two candice glover who blew away the competition singing a love song. ♪ [singing] >> reporter: well the judges loved it. judge randy jackson actually went on the record to say her performance was the best ever in idol history. rick i'm sure you our watching as you were staying up with your five kid last night. rick: could you hit a note like that? >> reporter: no i could never hit any kind of note. rick: what did lindsay lohan say when they wanted to take her picture on the red carpet?

>> reporter: jesus, she was not praying. rick: got it. jenna: she was really excited to be there. >> reporter: yes according to her entourage. good thing they were there to clarify. rick: thank you, julie. >> reporter: see ya. jenna: thanks. a massive storm system that brought severe weather to much of the country is now taking quite a deadly turn. the latest details on where it's headed just ahead. plus, some serious new questions about the mainstream media, and the president's gun control agenda. our news watch panel weighs in just ahead. [ both ] we're foodies.

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swrao now for more on the weather. at least three people are dead after a skwraoeu length spring storm sweeps through the midwest and south today. in mississippi we have amateur video showing a massive twister on the ground there causing major damage. take a look at that. the governor declaring a state of imagine there because of these tornado. in georgia powerful storms there as well peeling off roofs and toppling trees and knocking out power. this storm system has brought 21 tornadoes so far across seven states. thankfully, though, the massive storm is finally winding down with less of it will bring rain and snow across new england for the remainder of the day. rick: new concerns about the mainstream media promoting the president's gun control agenda. this as familiar leaves the victims in newtown, connecticut lobby lawmakers on new legislation. news busters reporter scott whitlock talking to abc news

taking them to task saying quote reporter john carl parroted administration talking points. the president portrayed his gun plan as a moral imperfect a tiff. the abc reporter then played two clips of the president, including one where he lectured this is not about me, this is not about politics. how can journalists allow a politician promoting legislation to get away with saying something isn't about politics. let's bring in judith miller a pulitzer prize investigator and author. kristen powers is a daily beast columnist. both are fox news contributors. i want to ask you about the newtown families and the role they have played. it seems, kristen like there's been like a coordinated media effort on the part of these families to sit down, they did 60 minutes on sunday, they talked to "people magazine." the president then flew to connecticut and flew the family members back to washington so they could lob me lawmakers ahead of the important vote on the hill yesterday.

we have gotten words that the president invited one of the mothers of the newtown victims to deliver his weekly radio address on his behalf, the first time anyone has done that except for joe biden who did it once. what do you think about the families, the way they are being used, exphroeultde exploit ned this case, is there anything inappropriate going on? stphreu don't think there is anything inappropriate going on. i think it's a common thing, whether it's a republican or democrat president, do. people try to human ice stories. these are grown-ups not children and they are making a choice to speak out and share their feelings based on their personal experience. i think that that is news worthy. and i think that it's true that the media -- they clearly have a by as in favor of gun control. i don't as much as scribe that to them being liberal and i do to them living in urban environments. most people who live in urban environments support gun control. if they were based in montana they might have a different

perspective. i think that that is the perspective they are coming from and it's news worthy to cover what the president is doing. rick: judy i'm guessing as far as the newtown families go and our hearts go out to them every single day that they are quite happy as long as their message is getting out there, they don't really mind whether they are being used by the mainstream media or not. i'm wondering your thoughts. is the media just sort of being an impartial observer on this or are they being sort of active participants? >> i think that the mainstream media are actually reflecting where mainstream america is on this issue. 90% of americans want some kind of background checks, background checks. this is a no-brainer, as far as the country is concerned, and what is interesting is that against the nra, which we have covered in great detail for a long, longtime, how they have mobilized their base, how they've gone from 4 to 5 million members since the focus on gun control and restrictions began

in earnest after newtown we finally have a newell amount which is the impassioned minority of these families, coming forward in a way that families have never done before, as a group, as individuals and saying, enough. and this message, which is new, and it counters the other minority, which is the nra, and the country, 4 to 5 million members, now 5, this is speaking to people, and it is genuine news, and therefore it's appropriate that it be covered as such. rick: judy mentions the polling, the 90% number that came out in the quinnipiac poll i believe last week. the number of americans who are in favor of expanded background checks. you have to imagine that that number includes gun owners, and republicans as well who are in on that. i just wonder, though, because there are an awful lot of gun -- gun rights second amendment advocates that are watching the coverage of this story this week seeing how all of this plays out

and wondering where is anybody who is out there who is giving our point of view on this. who is talking about the importance of second amendment rights? you come from alaska, a state, a gun culture state, do you think that people out there who are frustrated that their voices are not a part of this conversation right now, at lowe's in the media, that -- at least in the media, that they actually have a point? >> certainly there are people that are frustrated. i peel like wayne lapierre who is the head of the nra has been on a lot. and he has made his case, and frankly he doesn't have a very good case. at some point you do have to say, you're making claims that aren't true. you're claiming that obama wants to basically overthrow the second amendment and take away your guns. completely false. at some point he shouldn't be allowed to say that any more. when the president wants to get background checks, which as judy said the majority of the country supports that is a minor regulation, frankly that is completely constitutional, and

so wayne lapierre has had his say. unless he wants to be an honest broker and actually enter the debate and stop saying things that aren't true i don't have any problem with the media not giving him a chance to say anything. rick: both of you seem to be on the same page as far as this. that is fine. but judy i'll give you the last word. >> well, i'll just say this since kirsten and i agree on this one, look, if you've got people who are mobile hraoeuzed for the first time dark dash mobile liesed for the first time whether it's mayor bloomberg or the newtown families and you have a new message as opposed to wayne lapierre's old message which is a changing message because he used to be before universal background checks bev was against it let's hear it. i'm glad the mainstream media are paying attention to these families. i think it's appropriate. stpho: thank you both, both. i'll be filling in for jon when i host fox news watch this weekend. we will cover the coverage of the week's top stories, that is saturday 2:30 eastern time right here on fnc. jenna: some new political fallout from the illegal tape

recording of the most powerful republican in the senate. new evidence could link democrats to a series of attacks targeting senator mitch mcconnell. we'll get you updated on that. also you've seen this viral video, it's got even more than 6 million views on youtube, a seven-year-old scoring a touchdown for nebraska during their spring game. a very special back story. would you believe this? we'll talk to the remarkable -- the remarkable family really behind this story. that is little jack, that is his father andy. andy is going to talk to us about what he feels we need to know about their story. and why it's so special coming up next. the new guy is loaded with protein! i'll believe it when i--- [ both ] oooooh... [ female announcer ] as you get older, protein is an important part of staying active and strong. ensure high protein... fifty percent of your daily value of protein. low fat and five grams of sugars. [ major nutrition ] ensure! nutrition in charge! boom. heart attack.

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swrao welcome back, everyone. a lot of you have probably seen this video of this little boy. >> gives it to jack, here he goes.

he's got blockers out in front. he's running midfield. listen to this crowd. as jack, a young man that has really been adopted by this football team has scored a touchdown. jenna: go jack, go. it makes your heartbeat a little bit. it made me tear up a little bit when i saw it and still does. he gained a lot of nice until attention after making that touchdown during nebraska's spring football game. he's 7 years old and battling brain cancer. he has a special relationship with some members of the team that have helped him during this time. the video is one of the most viewed of the week as you can see. joining us is andy hoffman. andy that is just a minute video and it tells us only so much about skrabg. what would you like our dash jack. what would you like our viewers to know about what the last two years have been like for you and your family. >> thank you for having me. that was really an unbelievable day, but, you know, really the

back story behind jack is a story about a little boy who has been battling a -- a brain tumor right at the center of his brain that is pushing up again his brain stem and wrapped around his cerebral artery. he's had two brain tumor resection surgeries. he has had, you know, we've had chemotherapy for jack for about a year. he's got about two months left of chemotherapy. and u know, really it's been a long road. we thank god every day that he is still with us, and this he's able to do some of the things that he's able to do, but, you know, we still have a marathon in front of us. and all the national attention swirling around that run is exciting for our family, and it's fun, and it's neat, but what we hope is that we can help turn the attention to this disease, pediatric brain cancer, and get the country talking about it. pediatric brain cancer is a horrific illness which impacts

the center of function and we really want to get this disease on the nation until agenda. jenna: that's something we hope to do today a little bit, andy. for many parents and for many of us unless our child was diagnosed with brain cancer, with cancer we probably would not know very much about the disease. talk to us a little bit about your journey as a parent, how you found out that jack had this disease, and what you think everybody should really know about it. >> well, you know, we found out about jack's brain tumor because he had a massive seizure which nearly cost him his life on april 22nd, 2011. the thing that i would like everybody to know, i guess to take away from this is that when we nine lee got him to the point where we were going to do chemotherapy the chemotherapy that jack is taking is a 25-year-old chemotherapy regiment, the same type of kid with this kind of brain cancer in 1985 were getting the same types of chemotherapy and there is nothing improved. we live in a day and age where we have all this modern medicine but yet the therapies for kids

with brain tumors are is not improving, and they are not improving because it's in the a priority item. awareness is such an important part, an important piece of making it a priority item in this country. jenna: how is jack doing? >> you know, jack is doing good. you know, we've been able to -- he's seizure free now, and the tumor is shrinking. a year ago we had a really tough mri, it showed a spot post operation, took off and grew substantially, and after one year of chemotherapy it has shrunk. he's in a very small fraction of fortunate children, because that's frequently unfortunately not the case for kid with brain cancer that take theme owe therapy. a lot of times their bodies have a negative adverse reaction to these drugs because they are so incredibly toxic. so he's a -- he's blessed. if you could say this for a child who has brain cancer, that's how we feel. jenna: he's also got wheels for a kid that's been through a lot.

he can run pretty good there dad. i bet he gets that from you, or mom i've seen her in those pictures as well. for viewers who would like to follow your story or learn more what is the best way fear them to do that. >> they can follow jackson facebook or go to team jack.org. jenna: i think we are all part of team jack today. it's great to have you with us. i know you have a couple of big things coming up in the next few months. we look forward to having you back to continue to follow your family's story. >> thank you for having us and helping us get this on the national agenda, we really appreciate it. jenna: we appreciate this as well. a little context on childhood cancer, you saw a few of them just on the screen there, more than 40,000 children undergo treatment for cancer each year. every day 36 children are diagnosed with cancer. the average age for a child diagnosed is six. remember jack is seven. he's been doing tha this for

about two years. joining us now a doctor from the knock news a medical team. also a cancer doctor. what do you think when you hear the story of jack. >> let me just congratulate him for finishing the race. that is an inspirational story for a lot of kids and parents out there who sometimes get frustrated because they are going through all these radiations and chemotherapies. look, this is an example and a winning story and we should all follow it. i think there is a lot more in his future and i wish him all the best. this is devastating for the family. everything is going well, and as you said the average age business five to six years old. the majority are coming up around the age of one to five years. and the key to this is to really pay attention to very, very suggest he will symptoms. when men and women as they get older, they can basically come to doctors and tell us what the complaints are. i have a back pain, i have a belly pain, abdominal pain.

kid usually don't complain. very minor things, very subtle headaches. hearing changes. visual changes. if they are not seeing well, if they are acting funny at school. don't assume that it's just another friend of them that is pulling them or something, pay attention to very subtle symptoms. i'll tell you a personal story of mine which was devastating and it kept me up for about a week, one of our own relatives 12 years old was doing perfectly fine was at our house about a month before, had a party things were going well. i saw little subtle changes in her eyes. of course i didn't bring it up. two weeks after she was complaining of headaches. the parents thought it's just the flu, not a big deal. to make a long story short they got an mri and unfortunately there was a 7 son a meter mass and this kids' life has changed. i'm a cancer surgeon, i'm very passion tphal about what i do and you don't want to fail. so it really was you know tough for me. jenna: how is she doing. >> she is doing well. she went for the surgery. that's what i want people to know. the first operation is the best

treatment. you want to remove as much of the cancer as possible, because then the radiation, theme owe could be more effective. choose your surgeon wise leave. a lot of childrens hospitals that do this day in and day out those are the places have you to go. she is going through chemotherapy just like jack and doing well. interestingly enough her personality changed a little bit. jenna: really? >> she is a lot more friendly, she is talking. jenna: so interesting. >> as a result i see her more often. jenna: what do you think about what andy said, he's obviously a parent he's been through a lot over the last two years with different treatment and one of the things that he says that he has observed is that some of the treatment seems to be outdated that it's not being updated as much as other cancers that are more highly public, let's say like breast cancer. as a medical professional what are your thoughts on that and what do you think about it? is that indeed the case in. >> look, i think they have been dealing with this for about two years, it's devastating, bad news for them but i have to also say that while the incident of cancer among kids has been rising in the past decade or so

the mortality and death rate has reduced. so there is some advanced medicine and technology that we are using, so we have come a long way. are we there where we should be? is the chemotherapy the right way we are finding out the tumor markers, we are understanding the cancer better. one thing about brain cancer is that since it's surrounded by very critical tissues, and there is not a lot of room to open up, that is important and that's the hard part. a lot of radiation -rss and focal thaoerpls are the way to go. -- therapies are the way to go. we have come a long way, but more research is needed in the field. jenna: great to have you. we appreciate that so much. rick: a mom is annoyed with a homework assignment that her child brings home from school. it's a cross word puz well a clue that -- puzzle with a clue that takes a cheap shot at a political party. and love it comes in all shapes and sizes, how one organization is helping the four-legged victims of super storm sandy find foster homes, great ahead.

rick: a group of volunteers helping man's best friend weather the storm. sandy dog nannies of vermont connecting super storm sandy victims left homeless find shelter for their pets with foster families until they can get back on their feet. molly line joining us live. >> reporter: burlington vermont is a long way from new york or new jersey and the storm-ravaged areas that we've seen and heard so much about. when skwraopb shannon saw all the footage and realized that the homeowners and pets needed help she decided get involved. >> sit. >> i thought there was probably a need for temporary shelter for the dogs to help the pet owners,

which is a little bit different than typical dog rescue. typical dog rescue is all about helping the dogs. >> reporter: shannon founded sandy dog nannies an organization that fosters dogs and her efforts couldn't have come at a better time for debbie blair. like so many she lost almost everything in the storm. >> there is such a piece of mind, you know, that i have, you know, that i know my dog is safe and being well-taken care of, and the dogs pick up on all our expres our express as well. she was removed from all the craziness going on in our house. it was a blessing. >> reporter: they paired the dog with kerry madden in manhattan shaoefplt was hoping to find somebody else to foster jess rebut she decided open her own home to the 11-year-old hound. >> i guaranteed that this dog would be well-taken care of and i want them to take care of

their needs. >> reporter: now it could be months, maybe even years before awful these neighborhoods can be rebuilt, but in the meantime fema says there are hundreds of people in hotels and motels that still need their help. if you'd like to learn more about the story, and how you can help out these dogs, and the almost two dozen dogs have been placed in foster care so far head over to foxnews.com, we have an article up and you can get more information. rick: great, mol lease, thank you very much. sad news, hrerl they are reporting that comedian jonathan winters as died. 87 years old. he died of natural causes. a lot of you will remain that face. so familiar from movies and television shows over the years, whether it was the tonight show with johnny carson or hee haw, or mork and mindy. a comedian that made people laugh for decades. jonathan winters dead at the age

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