what makes it familiar. to people who live there. neighbors you can count on. places that haven't changed. things that are solid and true. and lasting. most of the people in west know everybody in west. many of you are probably descended from some of those first settlers, hardy immigrants kept going. for you there is no such thing as a stranger. someone in need you reach out to them and you support them. do you what it takes to help them carry on. that's what happened last wednesday. when a fire alarm sounded across a quiet texas evening. the call went out to

volunteers, not professionals, people who just love to surf. people who want to help their neighbors. are call went out to car sales men and directors and funeral directors the city secretary and the mayor went out to folks who were tough enough and selfless enough to put in a full day's work and then be ready for more. together you answered the call, you dropped your schoolwork, left your e trucks and rushed to the flames and when you got to the scene fear and fought that blaze as hard as you could knowing the danger, buying time so others could escape and then about 20 minutes after the first

alarm, the earth shook and the sky went dark and the west changed forever. today our families with the all lost. the memories will live on in our hearts. parents who love their kids and leaders who serve their communities. they were young and old. and from different background and different walks of life. a few were just going about their business. an awful lot ran towards the scene of disaster trying to help. one was described as the kind of guy whose phone was always ringing with folks in need of help. help he always provide. that's just who these folks were. our thoughts are with those who face a long road. the wounded, the heart heart

broken. families who lost their homes and possessions in an instant. they are going it need their folks in west. but they are also going to need their friends in texas and their friends all across this country. they will still need you to answer that call. they will still need those things that are lasting and true. for scripture teaches us a friend loves at all times. and a brother is born for adversity. to the people of west, just as we have seen the love you share in better times as friends and brothers and sisters. these hard days have shown your ability to stand tall in times of unimaginable adversity. you saw it in leaders like mayor muska.

who lost close friends and hospital staff treating people that they knew toiling through their tears as they did what had to be done. we saw it in the folks who helped evacuate an entire nursing home, including one man who drove an elderly resident to safety and then came back to do it again twice. we saw it in the people so generous that when the red cross set up a shelter for folks who couldn't go back to their homes, not that many people showed up because most had already been offered a place to stay. with their friends and family and neighbors. complete starntion drove from hundreds of miles to donate supplies. firefighters from surrounding communities. manned the stations so surviving volunteers could recover from their wounds. right here at baylor,

students stood in line for hours to give blood. and a nearby school district opened its doors to the students who can't go back to their classrooms, putting welcome signs on lockers and in the hallways. so that's the thing about this tragedy. this small town's family is bigger now. it extends beyond the boundaries of west. and in the days ahead, this love and support will be more important than ever. because there will be moments of doubt and pain, the kempf station to wonder how this community will ever fully recover and the families who have lost such remarkable men of the sort that we saw in that video. they there are going to be times where they simply don't understand how this

could have happened. but, today i see in the people of west in your eyes that what makes west special isn't going to go away. and instead of changing how are, this tragedy has simply revealed who you have always been. it's the courage of debra sue lack who works as a gas station around the corner from the fire station. it's going to be tough from the families we're going to rebound because we are fighters. that courage will bring west back. [ applause ] it's the love of carla ruiz who used to live in west

and used to -- and now lives in austin. she drove back. i have to be here, she said. you have to be here for family. that love will keep what's going it's the faith of someone like pastor john crowder that will sustain the good people of west for as long as it takes. his church was damaged in the explosion so on sunday the congregation assembled outside. what happened wednesday was awful, he told them god is bigger than all of this. [ applause ] god is bigger than all of this. and he is here with you in west. he is bigger than all of this and he is here with you. going forward it's not just your town that needs your courage and your love and your faith. america does, too.

we need towns where if you don't know what your kids are up to then chances are your neighbors do too and they will tell on those kids in a second. helps folks pay the medical bills. and then take the time to drop off a home cooked meal because they know families are under stress. car gets stuck or house gets flooded we need people who so love themselves that they are willing to lay down their lives for them. america needs towns like west. that's what makes this country great is towns like west. for you, o god, have tested us. you have tried us.

we went through fire and water. yet, you have brought us out to a place of abundance. you have been tested, west. you have been tried. have you gone through fire. you will always be surrounded by the abundance of love you saw it in the voices on those videos. you see it in the firefighters and first responders who are here. [ applause ] all across america, all across america people are praying for you and thinking of you.

when they see the faces of those families, they understand that these are not strangers neighbors. and that's why that's why i know we will get through this. god bless west. [ applause ] may god grant his peace on those who we have lost. his comfort on their families. may he continue to bless this great state of texas and may he continue to bless these united states of america. [ applause ] >> kimberly: that was the president memorial victims deadly explosion last week. we will take a break and come back with a show for you. all five presidents

presidential library opening in dallas. dana per perino was there. she is going to tell us all about it next. stay with us. ♪ [ male announcer ] we all have something neatly tucked away in the back of our mind. a secret hope. that thing we've always wanted to do. it's not about having dreams, it's about reaching them. ♪ an ally for real possibilities. aarp. find tools and direction at aarp.org/possibilities.

>> kimberly: hello, everyone, i'm kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel. dana perino joins us life from texas where history was made today. all five living u.s. presidents gathered together for the dedication of president george w. bush library. 5:00 in new york city. 4:00 in dallas. and this is the 5:00. -- is the five. ♪ ♪

>> kimberly: it was a rare reunion the of the world's most exclusive club. bush presidential center opened on the campus of southern university. >> mr. president, let me say that i'm filled with admiration for you and deep gratitude for you about the great contributions you have made to the most needy people on earth. >> it's a great pleasure to be here to honor our son, our oldest son and this is very special barbara and me and thank you all for coming and to all of those who made this marvelous museum possible, we thank you especially and we're glad to be here. god bless america and thank you very much. >> people began to joke that i was getting so close to the bush family that i had become the black sheep son. [ laughter ] my mother told me not to talk too long today. [ laughter ] and barbara, i will not let

you down. [ laughter ] >> mr. president, for your service, for your courage, for your sense of humor and most of all for your love of country, thank you very much. >> for eight years you gave me the honor of serving as your president. today i'm proud to dedicate this center to the american people. it's the honorable lifetime to lead a country as brave and as noble as the united states. whatever challenges come before us, i will always believe our nation's best days lie ahead. god bless. [. [ applause ] [cheers and applause] >> kimberly: truly an amazing site. get to deign naps interview 43. next segment. first, dana, tell us what today was like. >> well, i don't know if i can ever watch that clip without crying myself, i'm likely to tear here in front of everyone. i loved today.

i loved everything about it. i wished so much that my friends at the five could have been there with me because it was such a moment of history and i know y'all love those events and eric, especially you would have loved it. you would have loved to meet everybody. the weather was perfect. the president's speeches were great. i have never seen mrs. bush as joyful as she was today surrounded by friends and family with this beautiful library and all of the support that she got. it was just truly amazing. and when 41 spoke and then when he stood for just that moment, there wasn't a dry eye anywhere in dallas. >> bob: dana, ohio did you get the sense that the five presidents were getting along? these are guys who this their differences on a lot of the things it seemed to me that they had rallied today and they felt very much of the elite club that they are. >> i think that they have tremendous respect for one another and then it's an standing that none of us who will ever be president could ever understand. i think they loved the

library. they felt very welcomed here in dallas. all of the remarks were terrific. i could have sat and listened to it all day. and i also think that they really appreciated what president bush had done at the museum. you heard both president clinton and president obama talk about the library and the decision theater where you get to decide if president bush's decisions were ones that you would have made and you can make other ones if you choose and it's very interactive. i think they really appreciated the majesty of what was created here in dallas. >> bob: before you say none of us are going to be president. i have not taken my hat out of ring. [ laughter ] >> speak for yourself perino. >> eric: a few of us still have a chance. >> andrea: bob, you would never pass the security clearance with your background, buddy. >> >> kimberly: he knows a few people. >> eric: i thought president carter and president clinton's speeches were very nice. very becoming. very nice for 43 to be listening to. can i do this -- too early

in the show to do this but i felt president obama's speech was a little a predictable, a little self-centered and for him to bring up immigration in that speech i thought it was absolutely the wrong time to do it. >> kimberly: no comment. >> dana: i didn't take that way, necessarily. i know president clinton talked about immigration as well. it is one of the exhibits in the library talking about president bush's attempt, a failed attempt, i would say, to get comprehensive immigration reform done. overall, i think that people maybe just let that one slide here at the event because the atmosphere was just one of wonderful collegiality. and all of these guys they get together and they have to put politics to the side. i think they probably would have done that today on that issue. >> andrea? >> hey d.p., i think a lot of people when they watch these kind of ceremonies and see all the faces in the crowd they wonder what's going on behind the scenes. any funny stories that you can tell us? it's not just the five

presidents. it's a lot of high profile people from d.c. your former colleagues. maybe some of obama's staff. any funny stories you can share with the viewers? >> well, last night we went to something called the supper on the lawn that the president and mrs. bush hosted. and it was like going to high school reunion without the pressure to look great a lot of people have had children since we left the white house. i got to catch up with a lot of them. a lot of five fans here. everybody wanted to know if bob really believes the things that he says. [ laughter ] they asked about the chemistry on the five. a lot of people said we watch you every day at 4 or at 3 or at 2 or at 5. it's all been so positive. and a real chapter ending for a lot of us who were hoping that this day would come where people had a little bit of distance from the presidency to see it for what we saw it as. >> dana, my impression was the president didn't care that much.

his approval rating was down when he left. now it's at 47%. even on so-called enemy polls. does he care? >> i wish i was more like him, because he doesn't seem to really worry about it. you know, he tells a story about having met george washington -- give me a break. read three stories about george washington and if they are still writing history about the first president and analyzing his decision then the 43rd doesn't have a lot to worry about because he will never be around to know. today was really special for them because they became grand patients last week. jenna and henry were here. their daughter barbara was here. the whole family. a huge amount of staff and big crowd at smu who was just so excited to have them here. you might hear music in the background there is going to be a big party and fireworks in the works. >> kimberly: don't go away five viewers. deign naps special interview coming up on the

five. this time the president gets personal what kind of world does he want for his brand new granddaughter. you will hear from him next on the five. ♪ ♪ she's always been able to brighten your day.

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♪ from see to shining sea. >> welcome back to the five. special day for president bush as library opened up today. dana perino was there and had an opportunity to interview 43 and get a tour of the center from the president himself. she is back from dallas. d.p.? >> thanks so much, andrea. what id to do was not break any news here. i wanted to take people to meet the president george w. bush that i knew. i mean, of course, as you know, i talk about him probably too much on the show. but he meant a ton to me. there is oval office on this library and i got to interview him there. take a look. >> mr. president. >> welcome back to the oval office, dana. --it's a little erie eerie because it feels like i should be preparing you for a press conference. >> exactly. >> i see you still have a

clean desk which is a good policy to have. >> yes, it is: it is eerie in a sense -- we made sure that the oval office looked exactly like it was during my presidency. and. >> including the flowers. >> including the flowers. we want people to be able to come in here and get a sense of the majesty of the office. this is the only office in a museum where a visitor can sit behind the desk or, you know, play like they are making a phone call. and have their picture taken. i think it's going to be a real attraction. >> the last day of your presidency, i was there. and i came in to say good goodbye. you said something i thought maybe i could repeat. coming into the office on the first day wanting to make sure that you left you could look yourself in the mirror and say i stuck to my principles. >> yeah. i think that's important in life. and it's definitely important for the president

to have a set of principles that one is willing to defend and so when i left midland, i told the crowd of 30,000 friends, i'm leaving with a set of principles. >> i'm thankful for the principles that i learned here in midland, texas. i'm thankful for my friends. i will come back to see you soon. god bless. [cheers and applause] >> when i came back in front of the same 30 although we looked a lot older, i said i didn't sell my soul. in other words, the principles are still an important part of my life. >> through it all, i stayed true to those convictions. i'm coming home with my head held high and a sense of accomplishment. [cheers and applause] >> that's important when you are running an organization so that the people who work with you know what you believe in and know those beliefs won't change. >> it made it easier to be your press secretary. >> well, thank you. >> do you remember when the five presidents were here in front of this desk. >> very well.

>> i thought what a picture to the world that america can set this agreement aside. >> we're about to have the same picture. when we opened this bush center, you know, the president will be here as will former presidents, members of the former president's club including president 41, which it's going to be a joyous day and a day to give thanks. i'm particularly joyful that my dad will be there. i didn't think he was going to be there. >> a lot of us didn't. >> that's right. >> he is stronger than all of us put together. >> we underestimated him. >> i'm going to ask you about the portrait because there are replicas here. it is just like the oval office. can we walk over. >> let's do it. >> a portrait of george washington. >> yes. >> also other paintings here of texas life. this is one of my favorites charge to keep. >> charge to keep, yeah. >> as a staff member, when you walk in from over there and then you would see that. >> yeah. >> it would -- reground you. >> this is abraham lincoln.

this is the spot where a president puts the most influential president. in other words, your tradition for each president pick as president and i chose lincoln. now, in my case, influential president has got a lot of meaning because my dad is by far the most influential president. now, as a matter of fact, i wouldn't be here as a former president without his ununconditional love. i tell people 41's portraits in my heart and i put lincoln on the wall. i read a lot about lincoln during the presidency. and came to admire him, you know, tremendously. i mean, is he a man owho stood on principle. >> right. >> all men are created equal under god. he had a great vision for the country. leadership requires vision and principles and lincoln is is a great example of that. >> as your library opens a lot of people will be asking you again, what will your legacy be? >> kind of overused word

legacy this, legacy that i'm asked all the time about my legacy. my answer is is, you know, it's going to take time. >> history will decide. >> i'm comfortable with that i know i gave it my all. i know i didn't sell my soul. i know we dealt with some pretty tough problems. of course, every president deals with tough problems. i know i had a great team. >> you did. >> i did. i know our white house was a joyful place. >> that's what you used to say every day was stressful but joyful. >> stressful but joyful. it really was. >> quite an honor to serve, wasn't it? >> yes. best thing of my life by far. >> mine too. >> so that was my interview with president bush in the oval office. i had a chance to talk to him some more, which we will get to later but what did you think? >> dana, i thought you did a great job. you know, he has had a very joyous last month. the birth of his granddaughter and now the

library. what is the one thing if you could tell the viewers at home that they might not know about the president? i have only met him a couple times and i thought he was so humble. i think a lot of people maybe missed that. what's the one thing, having known him so well that you think people should know about him? >> one of the things he taught me was forgiveness and how important forgiveness is in leadership and i try to remember that on a daily basis. it was one of the best lessons i ever learned. >> kimberly? >> dana, what was one of the most special moments for you today? right from the beginning when i started watching it, i emotional when his father sitting there next to him speaking. i thought about the fact that he was ill and there today to be with him. so important to the family. how about for you? >> there is some kimberly, i think it would have to be -- there is a 41 piece that was really important to me. at the very end of president bush's remarks, when his voice catches

that's that love for america and family and gratitude for everybody who helped make those possible. all the people lost on 9/11 and iraq and katrina. all the big decisions. i think that that captured today for me. >> we hear it in your voice too d.p. >> i'm going to cry. >> i can tell. we'll be right back with part two of dana's interview with president bush. don't go away. ♪ hey, does that star-spangled banner yet wave, over the land of the free ♪ and the home of the brave 

♪ >> bob: that was a moment at the ceremony today in dallas for the opening of the george w. bush presidential library. dana is back with us for part 2 of her interview with the former boss. dana? >> dana: thank you, bob. i will tell you, bob, herb loves you here down in texas. [ laughter ] >> dana: there is the oval office and then there is the exhibit. i had a chance to walk through with him. you will find some touching moments here. i my might cry at the end of this, too. watch. >> this is freedom wall. >> yes, it is. >> dana: tell me about this freedom collection because it is the first archive of all the political dissidents writings and it's right here at the institute. >> well, i'm one of the major causes of the institute is to advance freedom for the sake of peace. and one way to do so is to tell the stories of those who have lived in darkness.

>> dana: this day was in tanzania. do you remember the girl singing the song to you. >> yes, i do. ♪ ♪ >> dana: you have this amazing look of love, care, and gratitude for them. >> yeah, i do. our trips to africa were -- opening and enabling women to have proper perspective. it stirs your heart because you want to help. i believe the human condition matters to the national security of the united states. i believe it's important to serve others. >> you have a letter in here to a big rock star. >> i do. bono, who became a pal. he was skeptical of me and frankly i was skeptical of him. we became pals because we shared a common desire to help others on the continent of africa. bono is the real deal.

>> dana: had you a particular belief in freedom of the press. >> absolutely. >> dana: we didn't get the best press coverage necessarily. >> gosh, i don't know why you say that. [ laughter ] >> so you obviously remember that press conference in iraq the shoe throwing thing. [shouting] >> i'm the only one who got hurt in the whole thing. >> that's right. >> dana: but you were determined during that press conference you were not going to end this without taking the questions from the reporters that were there. >> correct. >> dana: why was that so important for you? >> because i think in order for democracy to function well there has to be vibrant press. and in iraq when the guy threw the shoe, i wanted to do two things. one, i didn't want to leave to give him a slight victory. president bush had to leave the room, therefore i a achieved my objective. i have also wanted to say to the young iraqi press corps, i want to answer your questions. i'm a big believer. i didn't like some of the stuff they wrote. of course, you had -- you don't have to read it you

know, you can just. >> dana: do you read it now. >> not really. i mean, i know what's in the news. most of these opinion pages are pretty predictable to begin with. >> the five you have got to watch. >> all the time. what time do you come on at 4:00? >> dana: 4:00, yeah. through thin substitute as a new grandfather, what is the world that you hope to continue to build for her? i hope that little mila who i got to hug last week obviously grows up in a world that's peaceful. you know, museum talks about history. it talks about lessons, it talks about how to make decisions it also is hopefully an inspiration for somebody to go out and make their community a better place. i hope little mila grosses up in it. >> i think she will. >> the country is still going to be a generous country. >> this is my last question. >> okay. >> dana: who is your biggest fan? [ laughter ]

>> mila. [ laughter ] >> dana: no. >> my sweet press secretary. >> dana: okay, bob. i told you. >> bob: you are going to cry. ask k. i ask a question? calm down. you will be fine. as much as this disapproval i had with president bush i always admired what he did in africa. i was glad to see that piece. not that he maybe cares about it, do you think enough people recognize how many lives were saved on that continent as a result of that? >> i think they are starting to. president clinton and president cartedder both spoke about it. there is a huge amount of need and president bush was able to convince america that there is a better way to do foreign aid and that we have an obligation maybe it no one will know the numbers. millions of people whose lives have been saved and changed. president bush and

mrs. bush are continuing that through the bush center. it's going to last for decades to come hopefully. >> bob: i have got to get out of here they are yelling in my ire as usual. thanks, dana, we will see you back in one more thing with another big announcement coming up on the five. stunning new developments in the terror attack in boston. what was the fbi -- what did they say that the muslim terrorist suspects were plotting to do? next. am i supposed to read this too? and which city were they targeting? that answer ahead. how was that for professional? >> terrible. >> you should run for president. ofghettio's. that's what happy kids are made of. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. [ male announcer ] just when you thought you had experienced performance a new ride comes along and changes everything. the 2013 lexus gs. this is the pursuit of perfection.

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♪ ♪ i always play the starring role ♪ >> eric: a ton of breaking news today in the boston bombing. the fbi revealed that the muslim terrorists planned to bomb times square through bedside interrogations, the fbi learned that there were six bombs already made and the terrorists planned to detonate those in times square. guess what happened next the justice department slammed miranda on the terrorists and stopped the investigation in the tracks. they warned him he had the right to remain silent so they did. they could have found out more stuff. pretty compelling the fbi said wait a minute, justice department, why are you

doing that to us? fox news megyn kelly found out they were in the middle of talking, shocked to seat public defender and the u.s. attorney walk in and say essentially you have the right to remain silent and issue miranda rights. they had a choice do i call back to eric holder and kind find out what they're too long. wild catting on their own in the end the fbi stepped back. what i found unbelievable the two guys were ad-libbing the rest of the journey. they were going to drive right into new york city with all the bombs. what happened was the car they carjacked running out of gas, they stopped. the person who had the car escaped to tell everybody about it and then they allowed the place to face them down in watertown. if they didn't have that gun fight, somebody could have been blown up. >> wasn't it the case of a judge who came in and did that? the judge came in with the u.s. attorney. >> brian: absolutely. >> eric: with who say that again. >> with the u.s. attorney. eric holder, the head of the injustice department. this was a call by the d.o.j. because they believe

issue miranda rights. they didn't have to. what they needed to do make sure that the citizens were safe. there wasn't another terror plot afoot like apparently there was to come into new york city into times square. a public safety exception they could have used before they even got to the miranda rights if they wanted to do that another alternative being enemy combatant. >> judge does not say going to give miranda rights. >> who does the judge work for. >> i have no idea. you have to assume there is some level of coordination. now, former attorney general michael mukasey says they can go back and talk to elm this. however, that information would not be permissible in court i think they were worried about political reasons and how it looked. this guy doesn't have constitutional rights. a knee jerk reaction or allen dershowitz theory the longer we wait to mirandize him we can't use this court in court. we need this info for court. >> is he going down either way. >> we don't know that. >> do whatever they want to do. the question is whether they go after. >> he is on camera dropping off the bag that has the

bomb. i mean, news at 11:00, the most rookie prosecutor could convict this guy. suspects shameful. care more about the safety of the country. >> we didn't have a lot of time to talk about. this we need to also at least mention, brian, very quickly, the mom, off her rocker in dagestan who is coming back here and says this was all a big play. >> she says she came to america with her kids to be safe and america has killed my kids. i don't know what kind of drugs she is on. but and what her role is, but she evidently is the one who radicalized her son. >> welfare pays for it. >> got to go. one more thing is up next. >> bob: mushrooms. ♪ note ♪ girl vo: i'm pretty conservative.

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it is time for one more thing. we'll go to texas. what is one more thing? >> i just pulled myself together and stopped crying . so there is it a lot more to the interview and so much for today . fox pulled together a special that runs on sunday night. up close with 43, george w. bush u. i hope you can watch it or set your dvr, it is the full story. >> we'll have the full interview. it is fantastic and we'll watch. eric boling. >> night jon stewart went after me and how many muslims are radicalized i pulled them out of my but. he used a different word. i will bring it to you tomorrow . i have a response, john. >> thank god and now important news today. gwyneth paltrow, most

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>> lorry has some. >> i don't have any tattoos. >> thanks for watching and see you tomorrow. >> this is a fox news alert. i am bret baier, in dallas. we'll have the details about the dedication in a moment. first the headlines, the white house said the syrian government used chemical weapons against its own people. that crosses the red line from period -- president obama. >> we have more evidence that the bombers noted to spled the bombing in the times square. >> and more on the fertilizer explosion. president obama spoke in the memorial. the new george w. bush